We make Boss Pokemon BROKEN, then battle!

[@shadypenguinn]

I'm a huge Patterrz fan, but an even HUGER fan of hitting the like button.

[@rafaelgonzalez-pw1kv]

Wow, imagine not being a fan of subscribing and becoming a member😒

[@johnadkins7510]

Seeing a Joelton named Mayhem brings back so many memories!

[@Daiki_Aomine]

That Crit gonna live rent-free in Patterz mind for while.

[@NotCommAnd-O]

Where was the Tauros???

[@caleb0810]

Do you want to know what I'm the biggest fan of? Tera normal Silk Scarf Tauros with no normal moves, certainly an interesting build 😜

[@axelblaze4088]

Its so poetic that Tauros got dragged through the entire video and never even got used 😭 Shady’s luck in the 2nd battle was crazyy

[@zodkip3147]

Tauros gave him that luck though.

[@isaachiltyhilty6804]

I've never seen Shady have anything luck based go his way and then we fights

[@log-rn4gs]

@@zodkip3147 All heil, Tauros!

[@Dinomen12]

I am also surprised he didn't give it a Booster Energy since he had Quark Drive instead of the Life Orb.

[@ncorgan]

I love how the guy who jokes about “beating the horse of Then We Fight” is the one bringing out some of the more unique ideas.

[@Regeor]

Yeah he’s always coming up with new stuff.

[@mochoman312games2]

Ya but he did do anything with the idea like you can make any pokemon busted but only chose legends

[@tripproductphotography8394]

@@mochoman312games2

[@maikel10909]

Silk scarf, normal Tera and no normal type moves 😂

[@Darko4-c]

I didn't even notice 😂

[@CarlosThadeu]

and he said he was gonna cook 😂

[@Slydaslime]

Awkward

[@gameinsane4718]

@@CarlosThadeuhe’s a Brit, obviously he forgot the spices

[@baldxiao]

​@@gameinsane4718 💀

[@vanguardbreaker8826]

Idea for Then We Fight- only three rounds of picking starters, but you choose how many pokemon you're taking, either 1, 2 or 3, and no repeat amounts to allow for six pokemon total. For example, you could take a Gastrodon and Scolipede round 1, only a Palafin round 2, and a Zamazenta, Wigglytuff, and Bellibolt round 3.

[@IAmMindBandit]

Hope they see this one. Great idea.

[@vanguardbreaker8826]

@@IAmMindBandit Thanks! :)

[@Killchaingg]

nah

[@Jablonathon]

I was literally typing out "Shady is a pitcher, he just loves to throw"... WHEN HE POPPED OFF WITH THAT FULL PARA CALL!!!!

[@JJennerUK]

Shady using an entire year's worth of luck in that second battle lmao

[@Regeor]

I know a lot of people don’t watch the battles, but they’re missing out. The insane things that happen during the battles make these videos 10/10.

[@NotGord]

This video is just different. Second game was crazy.

[@Regeor]

@@yyqxxk8178 Yep. According to Patterrz, a lot of people click off the video once the battle starts. I’ve seen loads of people comment it as well.

[@gogeta687]

​@@yyqxxk8178apparently. It makes no sense to me. I saw a comment on one of the other TWF channels, and the commenter said they'd watch videos of the picks, or them running around catching mons. They're 100% missing out on some crazy battles.

[@drekhunter]

Does people really skip the battles?

[@nickm.6528]

I legit skip to the Battles, to see what they Build without watchimg Team Recaps and stuff

[@joshuafleury4017]

That calm mind/ sucker punch, into a full para was diabolical lmao

[@thomaskopp8157]

And then he called the crit on the iron crown. He was getting so lucky in the second battle

[@SuperSonicShadow27]

I can’t see a Registeel without calling it “Gurphy.” Thanks for that, Frank. 😂

[@milfncookiess3436]

GURPHY, I'm with yah lmao

[@hythcian]

GURPHY

[@CarlosThadeu]

Shady: *says he is gonna cook with Tauros* Also shady: *makes it silk scarf, normal tera... no normal moves* 😂

[@Alsebra]

He explained why he ended up with it like that...

[@MrDeerbomb]

Should've picked explosion as the illegal move

[@murphyc15]

I feel like it would be better to make your worst pokemon a boss to get the most gains out if it. A legendary being made into a boss isn't as beneficial because it doesn't improve as much.

[@schuschuschoell]

Or anything with close combat/draco meteor to give it contrary

[@Amoney5]

The latias swept

[@gothicbutterfly013]

The issue is not knowing what you'll get in advance

[@Alsebra]

It doesn't need to improve as much, though...a boss-version Mew is always going to have higher stats than a boss-version Volbeat. If they pushed all the non-HP stats to 999, everything would be on nearly equal footing...but they're still limited by the base stats of the Pokémon (they applied 31 IVs and 252 EVs to each stat to bump them to their natural maximum, affected by nature as normal).

[@murphyc15]

@@Alsebra i thought they said they were maxing the stats, so all boss pokemon would have the same stats. Guess I misunderstand what they meant

[@SweetBananaDigital]

This was a cool idea. I think an interesting way to expand on it would be to require that the boss Pokémon has one major weakness, like how a lot of video game bosses do. Then the opponent has to try to figure out the weakness during the battle.

[@B_Marsh92]

Using an ability like Fluffy could be good. Defense doubled, but weak to fire

[@Alsebra]

To be honest, this idea is somewhat similar to what Dylan is doing with his generational monstrosities...

[@earthbloodelf5289]

​@@B_Marsh92Something I didn't realize until very recently is that Fluffy doesn't actually halve physical damage, it halves the damage of contact moves, so there are a few different physical moves that aren't contact like Bulldoze or Earthquake that really aren't affected by Fluffy

[@Alsebra]

​@@earthbloodelf5289, conversely, there are some Fire moves that are affected negatively by Fluffy...this means a Water/Dragon with Fluffy still quad-resists a Fire move that makes contact (Fire contact moves deal normal damage against a Fluffy target, then you figure in weaknesses/resistances).

[@lampekartoffel]

32:37 Goodness gracious! I felt that in my very bones! That was absolutely insane!!

[@AltrTheEgo]

21:00 I love Patterz sneaking very niche references/jabs 😂

[@xaruks.4699]

Wonderguard air balloon electivire is a real toxic missed opportunity for Shady's boss 😂

[@Dbasty6]

Pretty sure its one of their unspoken rules to not use Wonderguard. Like how they usually limit themselves to 1 huge power/pure power in the teams.

[@Alsebra]

​@@Dbasty6, I feel like the Huge/Pure Power thing ends up being blocked by the general style of ability selection (throughout the whole group)...by rolling and drafting, it's almost impossible to end up with both of those abilities (or a duplicate ability) and I'd figure that, should the stars align and someone ends up with both, they'd invoke the "One Huge/Pure Power per team" ruling.

[@NatePhan]

What Dbasty said. I think Shady even mentioned something about him wanting to make Tauros just huge power/extreme speed, but that was off the table, so Pat probably disallowed some abilities.

[@TheShallowBoy23]

32:27 i got litteral chills from this pop off lol

[@zodkip3147]

Thank you for the unique ideas, we love to see them.

[@Darko4-c]

If patterz had a boss pecharunt 😈 fairy Tera... try it.

[@patrickbuckley6116]

This video was insane best battles I've seen in a while

[@Brawlmall]

This is a genius idea

[@HeyItsMayBug]

I loved this! I think you should more of these with other creators, too!

[@jchristie3]

That second battle? That has to be the most insane game of Shady’s career 🤯🤯🤯

[@PJOZeus]

So shady misses every first thunder ever in history He says 'fuck it we ball', throws to the heart of the cards, and it rewards him greatly

[@caseyhust6186]

You mean thunder wave?

[@PJOZeus]

@@caseyhust6186 whichever

[@nicolasvelasco5485]

Awesome video, awesome fights, shady knows how to create a real BOSS!!!

[@gremuru]

Shady in the second round was literally Hakari 😂

[@tylerprince6371]

That second battle was HYPE

[@StaticPika]

You always have really amazing videos Patterz and love watching them! I also really enjoy the people you collab with and looked up to them for a long time! Hope you keep creating more! 😄

[@combat1321]

Shady's luck was so paid in full for all the past missed t-waves😂

[@joltdf]

Calm minding on sp to bank on the full para after was one of the biggest plays ive ever seen

[@timothypelletier6908]

That was an insane battle....things finally going shadys way for once haha

[@pallavprabhakar]

Having these members only video is so much fun!! Now I see the benefits of becoming a member!!

[@oguzhanakay7491]

that second battle man..... sheeeeesh !

[@IAmScaryGengar]

Selena dying the first battle and then sweeping in the next two is hilarious

[@zombowookiee1588]

Shady actually seeing the future after joking about Pat seeing the future earlier in the video is the reason he's goated

[@QJCosmic]

Shady I’ve seen you gamble 🤔 it did not go well 😂… this was a comeback 👏

[@wolfbloodklaw7810]

I've never seen Shady this lucky before. Man deserves it for once🙌

[@Savyflores]

This was a BEATING! Really cool video!

[@Dusxio]

I guess the silk scarf didn't matter XD Shady is the gambler class this match

[@xXBMWVXx]

Shady popping off game 2 was insane. Well played game 2 sir!

[@SleepyKurisu]

Pat! Video idea! You and your opponent pick random starters and have 3 battles, normal moves and abilities If one of you win a round out of 3 you can choose a ability or move for one of your mons and the opponent has to re choose their team Or get a debuff chosen for them honestly this can be two separate ideas but I thought of them after you explained this videos premise

[@Lm1_0]

The best video i have watched in a while patterz u should definitely put that crit oart in your shorts

[@AnonymousUser_13]

The editing is so good!!😭😭😭

[@elvinohman4440]

26:00 tera normal silk scarf with no normal move?

[@ExtremeXPSO]

Was just about to pose the same question, lmao!

[@tpsam]

​@@ExtremeXPSO also last battle no mirror coat that insane latias what else can that spider do vs latias Why liquidation?

[@utkarshkumarsingh541]

A really solid idea for then we battle video You give your opponent 2truth and 1 lie..but here is the catch......if your opponent couldn't figure out which one is the lie and end up choosing it... They get the mon you said to them (example-lied and said lechonk over arceus if they can't guess the lie and choose the lie mon they get lechonk not arceus) and if they guess it right they get to choose the actual mon(from above example arceus) This will also create tension for the liar to not lie bout something broken and also not dogwater so that I won't be obvious for their opponent

[@minibhardwaj8072]

What I love about Patterz is instead of focusing on fusions , customs etc he focuses on best ideas in the original game . Dylan also works on mods ....

[@tasfiksaif8085]

When I was hearing the concept, I thought to myself that Shady would be a great guest for this one for some reason. Glad to see ShadyP in there! Banger content as always

[@seatielcedo7697]

I love that Shady's Latias swept all 6 of Patterz's team on round 2 despite it not being a boss.

[@x3X7iiNC7iiON]

That 2nd battle! The call outs got me just as hyped 😂

[@Torcainus]

I just HAD to hit that Like Button after THAT CRIT! 🤣So much skill this game!

[@martinlaukkanen1652]

Shady: *predicts full para* Me: and it's goodnight Irene!!

[@RemonaDraws]

The concept for this video is great. Good job 👍

[@whitemambamiller]

That second battle was nuts!

[@v_vmat]

The amount of hax and RNG in that second battle was amazing!

[@thatpachirisuguy5861]

All these RNG shenanigans makes me want to see a battle with the least potential RNG, like only using 100% accuracy moves or moves that can't miss and don’t have additional secondary effects unless they’re guaranteed (like flower gift always critting), no inflicting status that has RNG mechanics to it like Paralysis and Sleep, stuff like that. So basically the only RNG involved is damage range, the chance to crit, and of course the luck you get with the randomized starters

[@TheLernaean]

That second battle was insane lol

[@jaimynieuwhoff2975]

Never did I do a real life 'POG' , but that crit, you know which one, I pogged HAARD

[@shinyhunteradrian8651]

Amazing video, such a good idea! P.s. can we have bg3 back from the boys??? All the references are killing me and I miss it

[@craigyeah1052]

The thing about set-up mons as bosses is that they're all about finding an opportunity to set up, being bosses just gives them more opportunities, so once one is set up the other one doesn't feel like a boss anymore. Hilarious that the fully set up Iron Crown got so unlucky though.

[@thatperson2537]

“Make Tauros Great Again” 100% needs to be some kind of merch. I’d definitely have that on a shirt!

[@FerretTwister]

Shady just casually predicting the future in the second match is my bread and butter of the day.

[@yawn5363]

Shady being lucky for once is so long overdue!

[@skinnylegend1427]

This video is cracked the content is as crazy as the rng

[@Kentpogs]

Has the most luck in pokemon ive seen: 1.Frank- 1 hp mon that activated focus band 3 times at the same battle 2.Shaddy- a para-call and crit to win

[@lukethody5035]

Love the creativity of the content Patterz :D

[@TylerW44]

I'll say it every time, Patterz has the best minigames

[@evanconway7051]

Shady had a historic showing in battle 2. Talk about mastermind levels of reading the opponent and making the correct play.

[@RivalRoki]

Broooo, battle 2 was absolute peak!!!

[@chadmarostica]

That 2nd fight was crazy!

[@stephendid]

Challenge Idea: Counter pick. Each trainer picks any 3 pokémon no repeats. You take turns telling your opponent what pokemon you have chosen. That pokemon has normal ability and normal moves. Your opponent picks any pokemon with a BST of less than 450 but they can pick any ability and one move to conter that pokemon. Take in turns doing above until both have 6 pokemon. 3 regular ability and 3 counter picks.

[@kkobay1]

I never ever comment on videos like ever, but i felt the need to comment and like the video solely for that second battle. WOW!

[@davidmott9085]

Patterrz: "Ash had like 20 Tauros". Me: I'm pretty sure Ash had 30 of them. Close enough though Pat. Still, mad that Ash had that many

[@rickenbacker40011]

One of the best then we fights I’ve ever seen

[@VilasNil]

That second battle was CRACKED

[@tbone6032]

Fun fact - Tera fairy raises the power of draining kiss from 50 to 60

[@Someone-bp9hs]

Love being a member get to see all these amazing vids

[@aaronpalmer8602]

Love the return of prime Shady

[@neri1220]

Gotta say, after all these years of throwing, shady got 6th sense and now he became the rng mastermind.

[@KVO723]

MAKE TAUROS GREAT AGAIN! Also Wolfie has really put the fear of Incineroar into poketubers even though he’s complete mid in singles

[@T_the_Smeargle]

7:56 I agree, M.T.G.A.!!!

[@T_the_Smeargle]

The signature move the others get at least was given to the OG, as a Pokémon myself I ADORE nostalgic representation and utmost care like that!!!

[@MrTylerWpg]

Every one of Urshifu's moves being NVE at the end is just icing on this Content Cake.

[@galladeblade6001]

Another strat here is picking mediocre pokemon and make them a boss. Cus Legendary/Mythical pokemon already has a high base stat. It would be a waste of stats if you used the boss card in a good mon

[@Alsebra]

Not as much as you might think...they don't actually push all the stats to insane levels, they just go to the natural maximum (31 IVs in each stat, 252 EVs in each stat). For example, a neutral nature Mew as a boss would have a stat spread of (HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Speed): 404/299/299/299/299/299 Compare that to a neutral nature Volbeat: 334/245/249/193/269/269 If they made all the stats 999 (except HP), you'd be quite correct...but the lower the base stat, the lower the top end of that stat.

[@galladeblade6001]

@@Alsebra thank you

[@RogueSoldier19]

Whenever a Patterz video has some weird Game Master mechanics, I’m like hey it’s gonna be Shady Also watching Patterz melt into Kaiba after losing to Yugi when boss watcher went down was priceless

[@mechanigw9429]

@shadypenguinn - yall should do a lets battle where you have 6 rounds of randomized starters ; best of 3 ; you pick which of the 3 mons is on team 1, team 2, team 3 and can only use each team once for each fight. This would use all 18 mons that get randomized and potentially make hilarious team comps for a best of 3

[@cultofmel]

Patterrz said Steel/Fairy is the best typing in the game with his whole chest and I completely agree.

[@jacobwhyte743]

As an incineroar hater I am so made with his choice that round

[@JordanSantana-xi5is]

Shady w the silk scarf for no reason 🤣 26:41

[@tmathis9882]

You should do a spinoff of this where the pokemon you pick must steal a power from the other two. It can be a state, a move or ability.

[@ashtonoak4370]

If this wasn't Patterz video I would KNOW Shady had a frank file for game 2 ....he called ALL that lol

[@calebdavis8984]

The return of Havoc the Jolteon. I'm hype

[@kebabloodmoon6848]

@patterrz Do this! But the bosses stats are TAKEN from 1 state of each member of the team.

[@Sentinel851]

The Boss Tauros: uses Silk Scarf, runs no normal moves. well played?

[@LouisForJesus]

THIS VIDEO WAS A BANGER

[@TheKieranReynolds]

First, Love the battles between you two 👌 Can't wait to see the rest 👌

[@Sid-J]

the reads shady made on game 2 was epic!

[@KVO723]

33:50 Couldn’t Pat have given Incin a better normal move like E-Speed?

[@Mechjeb661]

Fake Out makes the target flinch.

[@Laura2297x]

Pat never fails with those concepts in his Pokémon Videos 🙌

[@thomasedwards6641]

That 2nd battle was one of the best I've seen.

[@Mad.Edd.702]

This idea for a then we fight was actually fantastic 👌

[@Patterrz]

Thank you !

[@novaduck_iv]

How Patterz felt fighting Latias is how I feel playing Pokerogue half the time

[@aprilhippie8752]

8:27 Apparently Tinkaton is a whopping 0.7 meters tall so either so somethings definitely off with the scaling over here cos dude looks massive😅