"We Matter": Why Dems Should Not Ignore Red States

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@NinjaxPrime
@NinjaxPrime Ай бұрын
The problem is that a lot of red staters simply will not accept any kind of progressive economic policies if they come bundled, as they must, with things like racial equity, lgbt rights, and other progressive social policies. We can't ignore the bigotry. It exists. And since we know people who go to college are likely to become less bigoted, making college more accessible should be a priority. Easiest way to close the gap with non-college educated voters is to turn them into college educated voters.
@adamrisch
@adamrisch Ай бұрын
Yep and that's one reason why Republicans are doing everything they can to defund and delegitimize public education.
@benketengu
@benketengu Ай бұрын
Pre-Reagan in-state tuition was relatively cheap, at least in North Carolina. For a semester it was under $500. Reagan came into office a lo of my friends had to drop out as their student loans had changed, Tuition doubled by the time my younger sister entered College.
@notaspeck6104
@notaspeck6104 Ай бұрын
Yeah no offence, but inequality exists in blue states too. They just vote better. I agree that politicians should have to earn peoples votes, not vice versa, but at the same time we're not going to pander to backwards ideals. Pretty sure the Biden administration actually did more for red states than for blue, if you call that 'ignoring' I don't know what to say. Point is, could dems be better about red states? Yes. But red state voters should also get their heads out of their asses. Don't vote republican then blame dems for all your issues.
@JustDontBeDumb
@JustDontBeDumb Ай бұрын
You are expressing the very ideas that this woman was warning against. Turning people into college educated voters isn't "closing the gap" its "converting" them, a process that will take generations. Most of these people could never hope to even afford college and your dismissal of their lack of a proper education exposes as someone who doesn't really understand their circumstances. Anyway, the point isn't to pander to right wing extremists or racial bigots. The point is there is a massive untapped market in these red states of people who are apathetic to politics, people who are not extremists or racial bigots, just simple people struggling to get by , if the democrats would focus some of there rhetoric towards them they could become a solid voting block for the party. And we are going to need these people if you want to build support for unions across this country.
@jacebales2951
@jacebales2951 Ай бұрын
You're right. I've lived in a mostly rural red state with large swaths of non-college educated voters. It will be extremely difficult for them to ever be able to accept socially liberal policies...even if rejecting such policies ultimately hurts their financial well being. This stuff/these beliefs are super ingrained in a lot of people like this. Education can eventually fix the problem, but it will take a long time. You're right that it needs to happen soon and get that process underway. Affordable college for the poor is a step in the right direction.
@ShadowSong634
@ShadowSong634 Ай бұрын
I just read that thousands of black voters in Alabama have just disappeared from the voter rolls. The NAACP is suing them. Yes, this would be the perfect time for Democrats to appeal to southern voters.
@katejackson4142
@katejackson4142 Ай бұрын
Alabama sounds like a good option.❤
@Efaya13
@Efaya13 Ай бұрын
I can speak at least as an AL Dem voter (though I'm not Black or a POC) that I have to keep checking my voter registration status because on *3* separate occasions I have been suddenly removed from the voter rolls without any actual explanation given to me. I don't know if it's because I have a foreign language name or what - but I'm tired of having to get this fixed over and over.
@katejackson4142
@katejackson4142 Ай бұрын
@@Efaya13 Request to vote provisional ballot if you have already registered and there have been no change in your address. Have your DL proof of address just in case.
@GeteMachine
@GeteMachine Ай бұрын
The problem is that dems think to appeal to red states, that they have to appeal with right-wing positions which turns off their own base and doesn't move red voters over. They need to give them left wing economic solutions to directly address their status. A lot of red state people are poor, not middle class, so they need to drop that status quo as well. They need to challenge the perception they had about Trump economically and remind them about social services they lack access to. Give them left wing solutions to their right wing problems. Not move to the center or tease right-wing openness to their politics (which Kamala, annoyingly does.)
@ricardimartinez673
@ricardimartinez673 Ай бұрын
Extremely well put 👏
@meguca201
@meguca201 Ай бұрын
Money in politics prevent left wing solutions. That's the crux of it.
@Savalatte
@Savalatte Ай бұрын
As somebody from the rural South, the poverty thing is overblown compared to what people claim in the media. Not only that but I've read that a lot of people who are poor don't usually vote Republican anyway. I'm just trying to be helpful here but I don't think Democrats can win with JUST an economic message in most cases. I think the main thing that has really hurt Democrats is non-stop obsession with social identity issues that tend to be divisive.
@williambartholmey5946
@williambartholmey5946 Ай бұрын
@@Savalatte Bingo. I've lived in the South my entire life and I fully concur.
@bobbun9630
@bobbun9630 Ай бұрын
They need to run and fund candidates at the local level. Local parties and candidates can properly assess the issues they need to run on to win, but only if they're on the ballot and have some financial commitment that will permit them to effectively campaign. On the presidential level, campaigns absolutely should ignore states that aren't close.
@jaymitchell9993
@jaymitchell9993 Ай бұрын
The policies that Harris Walz are proposing will help the people from Appalachia. The people of Appalachia are not written off. They have been hypnotized by fox noise.
@tcdan-c2m
@tcdan-c2m Ай бұрын
Tim Walz needs to get out to all those red states and speak their language (because he can!)
@gaeron1305
@gaeron1305 Ай бұрын
Yeah, because harris has shown how strong a VP IS.
@Averagejoe-xm9kc
@Averagejoe-xm9kc Ай бұрын
Part of the problem is the stupid Red Blue political maps. I am old enough to remember before that was a thing. Some states like Ohio are painted red not because they have a super majority Republican. They are so gerrymandered it’s nearly impossible to win as a democrat.
@v2occy809
@v2occy809 Ай бұрын
Gerrymandering doesnt work if the population didnt vote red at all. They fall for the bullshit... so its kinda on them.
@Dim.g0v
@Dim.g0v Ай бұрын
Trump carried Ohio by 8 points in 2020.
@vvitch-mist20
@vvitch-mist20 Ай бұрын
That's the other issue. I'm sure people in these states try hard every election cycle, but the gerrymandering is so bad down there.
@aaronhunyady
@aaronhunyady Ай бұрын
@@Dim.g0v Yes, and you can thank the effects of years of gerrymandering for that. For example, by limiting the number of ballot dropboxes per county, so thousands of people in urban areas have to stand in line to vote during covid, or by secretly purging voter registrations in urban areas. There are many examples of how Republicans use their supermajority to suppress the opposing vote. These practices are not done by Democrats when they have supermajorities, by the way.
@agm771
@agm771 Ай бұрын
@@Dim.g0v think he meant for the house of representatives lol
@tylerhackner9731
@tylerhackner9731 Ай бұрын
Dems need to appeal to economic populism not to right wingers
@letsomethingshine
@letsomethingshine Ай бұрын
The rich dems are economically right wing tho. Sad.
@thehappyclam3942
@thehappyclam3942 Ай бұрын
Those Dems vote Trump not Uniparty.
@organicmagic8822
@organicmagic8822 Ай бұрын
No, not to right wingers, But I think visiting places like Appalachia should get a visit It would benefit everyone
@notreal-duh
@notreal-duh Ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@organicmagic8822right but that’s not appealing to right wingers, that’s appealing to rural folks
@organicmagic8822
@organicmagic8822 Ай бұрын
@@notreal-duh Agreed. I think there are still quite a few rural people who just need the attention… to them, to their area
@adamrisch
@adamrisch Ай бұрын
Just curious what Matt and Emma think Charles Booker needed to do to appeal to Kentuckians, because he was and is very much behind policies that would benefit ordinary people, and yet when he ran for Senate against Rand Paul in 2022 he got essentially the same percentage of the vote that conservative phony Democrat Amy McGrath did against Mitch McConnell in 2020, i.e. he lost by over 23%. And Charles Booker is not to the right of Andy Beshear, unless you mean on the color spectrum lol. It might play well to your Kentucky viewers to pretend like it's all the Democrats' fault that they repeatedly and overwhelmingly vote for for the absolute worst people like McConnell and Paul and Trump, but while the Democratic establishment certainly deserves to shoulder some blame, the reality is that much of the state has been thoroughly brainwashed by right-wing propaganda just like every other red state, and yes that includes a big dose of racism, and you know it.
@christopherstathis4419
@christopherstathis4419 Ай бұрын
Add in Jamie Harrison as another example. They poured a ton of money into his race against Lindsey, yet still got demolished by double dights.
@warrensenna6690
@warrensenna6690 Ай бұрын
Thank you Someone who realizes that Dem policy is all about helping her and her like But they listen to the wrong people
@zmomharp4567
@zmomharp4567 Ай бұрын
Great points!
@Etatdesiege1979
@Etatdesiege1979 Ай бұрын
Exactly.
@Etatdesiege1979
@Etatdesiege1979 Ай бұрын
As a Hispanic person, this is totally how I see the situation. I got the Appalachian part of West Virginia and is the same shit. People can’t stand to see people other than them possess the markers of social mobility. Unfortunately, they have been totally brainwashed by right wing demagoguery and racism and zero sum mentality. I can’t remember one election in Kentucky in my lifetime where the democrat didn’t get crushed by double digits. The caller never makes an allusion to this or never recognizes the fact that Appalachia has to overcome a large issue with racism and fear of the other. Listen to AM Radio there and all you can here is 24/7 demonizing of minorities and the politicians who support them.
@BengtNordsten
@BengtNordsten Ай бұрын
I live on the western border of Minnesota, and for years I have raised hell with state Democrats who hardly put any effort into reaching across the river to the main cities of the Dakotas - most of the ND's population is within walking distance! And I also point out that if they can learn to deal with the Dakotans, their connection with us blue-collar outstaters will improve, too.
@cblack3737
@cblack3737 Ай бұрын
I disagree. Bigotry is a huge part of this. What has Trump done for the working class? Besides rhetoric. What?
@notreal-duh
@notreal-duh Ай бұрын
you know only about a third of rural folks actually vote, right? bigotry isn’t turning out the numbers. we could get people to turn out if we spoke to their actual material needs
@exiledfrommyself
@exiledfrommyself Ай бұрын
​@@notreal-duhWhat are their needs that the Democratic Party is not addressing? These people are voting on social and cultural issues, not economic issues.
@notreal-duh
@notreal-duh Ай бұрын
@@exiledfrommyself dems are shit on economic issues because they keep pushing liberal policies that only apply to middle class people who already have means. the value of trade work is severely devalued, and as someone who is working class i’m getting pretty fucking annoyed seeing kamala hand out tax breaks to all the middle class fuckers while proposing nothing substantial for the working class. neoliberal have a long history of neglecting the needs of rural and working class people because they’ve put the interests of big business first. they’re right that coastal elites are patronizing and don’t give a shit about their material needs. dems have just failed them over and over again, but somehow think “but we’re pro union” is going to be enough to get them to trust that we have their economic interest in mind
@freeisalwaysme
@freeisalwaysme Ай бұрын
​@@exiledfrommyselfthey care more about making the libs cry. Then voting for their self interest.
@tcdan-c2m
@tcdan-c2m Ай бұрын
Well that worked for him in 2016 because he really did come in as an outsider. But that is not gonna work in 2024.
@donngu
@donngu Ай бұрын
The electoral college system requires that we ignore them. It must go.
@aheroictaxidriver3180
@aheroictaxidriver3180 Ай бұрын
The EC is a way to overturn the popular vote. That's all it is. YOUR COMPLAINT is with the way the EC votes are allocated. The fact that so many people get these two very different issues confused reflects VERY POORLY on the intelligence of the populace.
@Milaperadotti
@Milaperadotti Ай бұрын
In all , fairness Republicans ignore Democratic states
@johngleason1776
@johngleason1776 Ай бұрын
They don't ignore New York 🙃
@firefly9838
@firefly9838 Ай бұрын
Thats true, but it would be much harder for Republicans to make inroads to the inner cities than for dems to make inroads in the rural areas
@kevinhendrix8786
@kevinhendrix8786 Ай бұрын
They ignore all people (at least as far as delivering helpful policies) unless they are billionaires.
@stanleed.harold5457
@stanleed.harold5457 Ай бұрын
Andy Beshear is the truth and she is brilliant
@riact123
@riact123 Ай бұрын
​@@johngleason1776nope they don't, they specifically targeted states like New York with the repeal of the SALT cap. When it comes time for political retribution, Republicans always remember the blue states.
@MattGaetzOnAWhiteFordBronco
@MattGaetzOnAWhiteFordBronco Ай бұрын
This is like rescuing someone that's drowning at high sea... one cannot reason with these folks *_right now_* because they'll drag you down too. Come to the middle and VOTE OUT the GOP, then we can have a conversation. Keep voting against your best interests, elect GOP reps like McConnell and Rand Paul, elect GOP reps throughout the entire state apparatus, have them gerrymandered, then complain "But Obama left us behind..." *_no your current reps are._*
@exiledfrommyself
@exiledfrommyself Ай бұрын
That's what I don't get. The Democrats support policies that would help them, but they continually vote Republican. Obviously, they don't want our help.
@tcdan-c2m
@tcdan-c2m Ай бұрын
The problem is they need to be convinced to come to the middle
@ASaund-qb6wy
@ASaund-qb6wy Ай бұрын
OK lady and which party is saying coal miners want coal to come back then? Oh right the party most of you vote for.
@pablothepurplepenguin
@pablothepurplepenguin Ай бұрын
What is the point they’re tryna make? Cause she said “know the difference between ignorance and stupidity” they’re both.
@kushclarkkent6669
@kushclarkkent6669 Ай бұрын
@@pablothepurplepenguin Great username lmao
@thedankhold8443
@thedankhold8443 Ай бұрын
@@pablothepurplepenguin ironically this was a really stupid comment because of your arrogance coupled with your ignorance. Ignorance is not being aware of something, stupidity is not being able to understand what you are aware of. Thanks for being an example of both though.
@seanpatrick1243
@seanpatrick1243 Ай бұрын
Kamala has NEVER said, “I love fracking.” She is only saying that she will not ban fracking, which is the correct approach. She is saying that fracking will play a role in a transitional energy economy, which leaves her open to severely limiting fracking in the future without having broken a promise.
@onestupidboi9320
@onestupidboi9320 Ай бұрын
no, she is never going to go after fracking. Democrats don't do anything they aren't required to do in order to stay in power.
@skunkstripe6074
@skunkstripe6074 Ай бұрын
Issue is that conservative groups are continuously running ads showing Kamala saying she supports a fracking ban (from her prior run). This resonates in western pa where fracking means jobs.
@seanpatrick1243
@seanpatrick1243 Ай бұрын
@@skunkstripe6074 They would run misleading ads or even outright lie in them no matter what she had said in the past.
@1newbert
@1newbert Ай бұрын
As long as the electoral college is mostly winner of take all, it will be foolish to spend large amount of resources in red or blue states. We are down to a few counties that will decide the elections.
@dashobi
@dashobi Ай бұрын
I understand the caller’s frustration, but she needs to also realize that KY voters are responsible for their choices also. It doesn’t make much sense to say you like the Democratic Governor but you vote in a bunch of state Republican legislators who blow up much of what the Governor wants to do. You also vote for Republicans at the federal level. I get that she feels Kentuckians are being looked at as stupid but they sure aren’t helping themselves any.
@SA-pj3fz
@SA-pj3fz Ай бұрын
Last time Dems tried focusing on red states was in 2016 and we know how that turned out
@zetsubanned4308
@zetsubanned4308 Ай бұрын
"The middle class", as if that still exists in a meaningful way. Never hear a politician use the term "lower class" in reference to appealing to voters or just, y'know, helping people. It's always MIDDLE-CLASS FAMILIES™. Fuck me I guess for not having a family and being a low-class wage slave.
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 Ай бұрын
"Working class" is preferable to "lower class" but yes it's annoying not to hear working class folks addressed.
@henlo1910
@henlo1910 Ай бұрын
​@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 Am I the only one who hates the term working class? Pretty much everyone works, the issue is that certain workers have, under capitalism, been relegated to a class that is specifically lower (in terms of pay, position in social hierarchy, etc) than the others based on material conditions.
@TwoForFlinchin1
@TwoForFlinchin1 Ай бұрын
A lot of poor people think of themselves as middle class regardless. I'm not sure if the terminology meaningful more than the policy
@user-Dumbunny
@user-Dumbunny Ай бұрын
It's how politicians speak to Americans in a way that they think will resonate with most Americans. Ronald Wright said that the American proletariats sees themselves as "temporarily embarrassed millionaires". This may not apply to you, but many Americans who are earning minimum wage and have meager savings can be tricked by Republicans into voting for policies that benefits the wealthy, when social programs become "handouts" and capitalists become "job creators". When Democrats speak of social programs that benefit the middle class, they generally benefit the working class as well, but if they said "working class", they open themselves up to "Joe the Plumber" attacks from the right.
@TwoForFlinchin1
@TwoForFlinchin1 Ай бұрын
@@henlo1910 that's not the definition. Working class means people who sell labor for a living. The owner class owns the value of workers' labor. This does not mean that members of the owner class never work
@mst3kpimp
@mst3kpimp Ай бұрын
personally, the dems always embarrass me when they circle jerk around the middle class. economics aside, middle class is a state of mind that I dont identify as.
@HypatiaMuse
@HypatiaMuse Ай бұрын
They're too afraid to mention the WORKING CLASS, what is called 'middle class' now are largely affluent PMCs.
@burnout_2017
@burnout_2017 Ай бұрын
I live in a red state and i no way do i feel ignored by the democratic party. The democratic party in my state is doing a great job in getting out the messages that we need to hear. The party can only do so much and that is where WE THE PEOPLE come in to play. I have made it my mission to seek out and find those people who are apethetic towards either voting at all or supporting the democrats and i talk to them as often as possible. I have 5 at work that i have been talking with that werent even interested in politics or voting this time last year, but are now not only registered to vote but excited to do so. Instead of giving biased media something to over dramatize get out and recruit new voters. Stop acting spoiled and victimized like republicans do.
@rsw552
@rsw552 Ай бұрын
Well said. Thanks for stepping up.
@Nahasapasa
@Nahasapasa Ай бұрын
This is just another reason why the electoral collage should be abolished
@robertkennedy9188
@robertkennedy9188 Ай бұрын
I’m a Swiftie but also a Marcusian Marxist so I’m very torn here
@milqueto4st231
@milqueto4st231 Ай бұрын
@@Nahasapasa it will never ever happen.
@adamrisch
@adamrisch Ай бұрын
Yeah I mean there's an obvious way to get national politicians to focus on more than a handful of swing states, and Kentucky could sign on to the National Popular Vote Bill if they wanted, but we all know which party is blocking that - the one Kentuckians keep voting for lol.
@anthonypeasley7604
@anthonypeasley7604 Ай бұрын
Wouldn't that make ignoring lower population areas even more likely?..
@The2FO
@The2FO Ай бұрын
@@anthonypeasley7604 It should be a matter of every voter counts equally. Farmers in little villages should not have more power than citizens in cities
@piku5637
@piku5637 Ай бұрын
Worker co-ops need to become the new norm, we need workplace democracy🗳️💙. The employer/employee power dynamic is abusive and obsolete🇵🇸🕊️Ⓐ☭🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🗽
@gimme0dis0junk0mail
@gimme0dis0junk0mail Ай бұрын
YES! ^^THis!
@SorenSoren-ft8sk
@SorenSoren-ft8sk Ай бұрын
Strongly disagree. Red-voting Americans, particularly rural, are already extremely pandered to due to the electoral college system and the fact that each state has two Senators regardless of population. Red states receive more money than blue states per federal dollar sent. Hell, the Dems allocated money for high-speed internet in rural places, despite the fact that rural places don't vote Dem. You don't see this kind of behavior from the GOP. The sad truth is that winning elections requires resources (political and financial capital), and the Dems are gonna have a harder time winning elections if they pander to red states like Kentucky that they don't have a chance of winning. Then Republicans understand this and don't allocate resources to blue states, but Dems are always like "well, you can't leave this part of the country behind" when discussing this topic.
@PaperMario64
@PaperMario64 Ай бұрын
You said this better than I could. Thank you.
@notreal-duh
@notreal-duh Ай бұрын
why did you use kentucky as an example where dems don’t have a chance of winning? they have a democrat as their state governor
@corvacopia
@corvacopia Ай бұрын
Trump has been doing rallies in New York and California, they absolutely allocate resources to blue states. And Democrats won’t win those communities this election, but if they invest and campaign there this election and then deliver once in power they will start gaining in those communities until in a few election cycles they are able to win, just like they used to. And you’re talking about systemic favoring if their concerns, but it’d Republicans who win those seats because Republicans are the only ones who try. It took the GOP decades to be able to win the former blue wall in the South; Dems could likely do it in less, but it’d still take multiple election cycles
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 Ай бұрын
I'm Canadian & I was like "um...Senators tho?" bc yeah, they already have outsized political power. The grievance culture among GOP voters is delirious, we need to address it but not pander to it. The same policies that make everyone else's lives better will also help them, even if they aren't interested in reciprocity.
@mattdombrowski8435
@mattdombrowski8435 Ай бұрын
So what, should we just abandoned them? They're not just votes, they're people. For one, people can be reached. Not saying it's easy, but what's the alternative? Just being fine with the country having hives of fascists? For two, if you believe the purpose of government is to benefit the people, you have to include the parts of the people you don't like. One of the reasons I'm not a republican is because I believe "to the victor goes the spoils" is reprehensible.
@scottwhite2379
@scottwhite2379 Ай бұрын
The problem is the elctoral college model and lack of ranked choice voting.
@PaperMario64
@PaperMario64 Ай бұрын
The elephant in the room that no one wants to look at is that rural people believe urban people have DIFFERENT wants, desires, and needs. Rural people act as if they are the only people who go to church, want safe neighborhoods, etc, and so they need special attention. Rural people need to wake up and look around. The same policies and safety nets that are put in place to help urban democrats - poor and middle class, help rural people. It’s the rural voter that doesn’t want to be lumped in and side with corporations against their own interests.
@corvacopia
@corvacopia Ай бұрын
It’s a politician’s job to deliver the message to the communities they want to win. The Democrats used to do that to rural communities, they don’t anymore
@elijahjarobi
@elijahjarobi Ай бұрын
​@@corvacopiathey are reactionary and only care about the culture war
@warrensenna6690
@warrensenna6690 Ай бұрын
How many rural hospital are closing because of republican policy Stop the nonsense
@libbyzucker1832
@libbyzucker1832 Ай бұрын
The rural areas also get massive agricultural subsidies, which they don't consider to be "welfare".
@Savalatte
@Savalatte Ай бұрын
@@libbyzucker1832 In some cases they just go to wealthy people who are invested in agribusiness, nothing to do with average people
@adversary22
@adversary22 Ай бұрын
Red States matter, but how are we supposed to help them if they don't stop electing conservative politicians who want to prey upon them?
@corvacopia
@corvacopia Ай бұрын
Campaign, deliver, then you change people’s perspective. Republicans, occasionally, deliver small gains economically for those communities and they message on that to them hard. Democrats do some stuff that helps them, but they aren’t the target audience.
@adversary22
@adversary22 Ай бұрын
@@corvacopia Part of the problem is that billionaires have conditioned the public so thoroughly to react with anger and violence towards anything that might help them that this may not work. A lot of us have lost contact with even family over not embracing the cult. How do we reach the public if even family itself has been destroyed by their loyalty to their orange godling?
@ermining1
@ermining1 Ай бұрын
Maybe by listening to their needs and stop thinking they're dumb
@SA-pj3fz
@SA-pj3fz Ай бұрын
@@ermining1Their needs are being addressed. They just don’t care and will blindly vote R on their ballot
@ermining1
@ermining1 Ай бұрын
@@SA-pj3fz and that answer is why they vote republican. If democrats actually did what they said they wanted such as increased minimum wage, universal healthcare(which they could have the first 2 years of Biden) people would vote for them. The fact is they're no better whatsoever than the republicans.
@brothermine2292
@brothermine2292 Ай бұрын
In statewide elections and district elections where Democrats are sure to lose, Democrats should NOT run, to allow moderate independent candidates to run head-to-head against right-wing Republicans and win, with no Democratic spoiler on the ballot to split the anti-rightwing coalition. (Except in states that switch to a voting method that counts all the head-to-head majorities, since that would effectively eliminate spoiling. All of the head-to-head majorities can be counted by letting each voter rank the candidates in order of preference.)
@capdyn735
@capdyn735 Ай бұрын
The independent senatorial candidate in Nebraska seems to be following this strategy! I heard he turned down the democratic endorsement because he knew that in ruby red Nebraska a such a thing would be poison for his campaign.
@brothermine2292
@brothermine2292 Ай бұрын
>capdyn735 : In Nebraska, it's not just the independent candidate who's following this strategy. I credit the Democratic Party of Nebraska for choosing not to nominate a sure-loser spoiler. Perhaps they learned the lesson from the Democratic Party of Utah. In 2022 they chose to nominate no one to run for Senate against right-wing incumbent Senator Mike Lee, so that independent (former Republican) Evan McMullin could run head-to-head against Lee. McMullin received a higher percentage of the votes than any Democrat had in Utah, which showed how the anti-rightwing coalition can be enlarged, and disproved the widely believed idea that only Democrats can defeat Republicans. If the Democrats had chosen to stand down in the 2024 presidential election so that someone such as Liz Cheney or Larry Hogan could run as an independent against Trump with no Democrat spoiler on the ballot to split the anti-Trump coalition, it would have produced a huge winning coalition. The independent would have been a "lesser of evils" for D-leaning voters, the favorite of all swing voters, and the favorite of some voters who vote R because they loathe what they think the D party stands for. Given that reelection of Trump is so dangerous, and that Trump had (and still has) a significant chance of winning, this strategy made more sense than nominating Harris (or Biden). But it's too late now.
@capdyn735
@capdyn735 Ай бұрын
@@brothermine2292 That's interesting about Utah, I had forgotten about that race if I'm being honest. And yeah the dems not running a spoiler is important too. Hopefully Osborn can actually beat Fischer, he seems genuine and regardless I think having more independent senators is a good thing. I tend to agree that an independent could've won the election handedly, however I think Cheney would've lost a lot of voters from the centre to the left flank of the democratic base due to being very conservative.
@davidrobertson4332
@davidrobertson4332 Ай бұрын
I am tired about hearing about the “plight” of rural America.
@Savalatte
@Savalatte Ай бұрын
Maybe it's just me but I don't hear much about rural areas all that much.🤔By contrast, for the last few years I've heard a LOT about the plight of urban crime, homelessness, drug use, "wokeness", high prices and taxes, etc. Mind you this is not coming from Fox News, a lot of these accounts are coming from people who left "blue states" for Florida, Texas, Tennessee, Idaho, etc.
@margelatul68
@margelatul68 Ай бұрын
Absolutely correct!!!
@jaygee850
@jaygee850 Ай бұрын
Errr. Did everyone miss Harris's speach where she said that she is advocating for smart people without college degrees to enter the job market at a higher level ?
@hipking23
@hipking23 Ай бұрын
Went right over their heads
@letsomethingshine
@letsomethingshine Ай бұрын
She said something? I only heard Trump say the sky was falling but that it’s just a joke but that it’s a real thing they made up but it’s only really a lie to shift attention to something sort of true if you look at it certain ways. It’s red meat to the easy vote that should be pandered to, but the rich empowered of the Democratic power HATE their base wanting to equalize the opportunity.
@bted
@bted Ай бұрын
That's a little vague. And very uninteresting. Which is kind of how I'd describe a lot of Harris's campaign.
@starchunkss
@starchunkss Ай бұрын
@@bted Nothing is more vague than "concepts of a plan" but these people will vote for him anyway.
@williambartholmey5946
@williambartholmey5946 Ай бұрын
@@bted Yep. Did everyone miss the completely empty platitude Kamala said? LOL
@badboy1028
@badboy1028 Ай бұрын
You’ll never change those minds no point
@SteveGellerMusic
@SteveGellerMusic Ай бұрын
Taylor Swift is a good and occasionally excellent songwriter, her songs are catchy and often clever, she switches genres all the time and takes a decent number of risks, she's a capable singer, she plays piano and guitar adequately, produces her own often very elaborate videos, and is the only performer ever with 4 Album of the Year wins. On top of that, she is the fairly rare performer who both plays her own instruments during her shows and also does full-cabaret dance numbers, and she is probably the only artist who has ever both had a successful indie album and also had the world's best-selling tour in the same career, and she did it in consecutive years. She has written about 300 generally decent (and sometimes very good) songs by her mid-30's, and is one of the youngest self-made billionaires in the world. She's also decent in her politics, paying her truckers well, writing a song in honor of nurses dealing with COVID, writing a few songs about feminism and LGBTQ rights, quietly attended that fundraiser for Gaza relief, encourages voter registration. She's not all that political, but viscerally hating her is quite a stretch. And she has driven hundreds of thousands of people to voter registration sites, and even if 10% of them registered, that could be thousands of votes in swing states. She doesn't have to be Dolores Huerta to get credit for making a positive impact in our political world. If she were a Trump supporter, that would be a disaster for Harris' chances.
@carladavis1473
@carladavis1473 Ай бұрын
It's because you can't help some people. Leave them behind. Their racism keeps them stuck
@MG-lq8hx
@MG-lq8hx Ай бұрын
Kentucky gave us Mitch McConnell!😡
@joeb134
@joeb134 Ай бұрын
I like this woman. I think southern democrats wanted Beshear with a passion because he represent us not this caricature thats pushed on us
@kingsfan2099
@kingsfan2099 Ай бұрын
Why did Appalachia overwhelmingly vote for trump when he was yelling about getting the coal miners back to work? Your faux outrage of being left behind is hilarious.
@jamesnesbitt2941
@jamesnesbitt2941 Ай бұрын
It’s not that these states don’t matter, they do. The issue is the majority of the population in those states will vote red come hell or high water and no amount of reaching out will change their minds. Ted Cruz fled Texas during a crisis and the Dems put a lot of effort into supporting Beto and yet Texas still kept Cruz in. Mtg has embarrassed herself repeatedly but her district is so Red she doesn’t have to worry. Boebert won her primary after switching districts knowing she may lose if she stayed in her current district. Gaetz is in the middle of a sex scandal that the GOP itself won’t let die but if he runs again he wins again. You go to the state government and they have gerrymandered the maps to make it near impossible to win without a massive scandal sinking a candidate. You have total abortion bans in states and those governors and legislators that signed it into law are confident they will hold their positions. If and when these deep red districts and states show they want something different they’ll vote differently. Until they show they want something different by at least primarying out the extremists there is little point for Dems to focus finite time and resources on unwinnable elections.
@AlcasSin
@AlcasSin Ай бұрын
The only way is to do it via grassroots. Warnock and Ossoff would be impossible without top organization from the bottom
@Savalatte
@Savalatte Ай бұрын
Sometimes you have to play the long game. Texas is gettting closer and closer and I believe Florida is a little bit better. But here again is another issue because Florida and other states are also becoming more conservative because certain types of people MOVE there. "If and when these deep red districts and states show they want something different they’ll vote differently. Until they show they want something different by at least primarying out the extremists there is little point for Dems to focus finite time and resources on unwinnable elections." No one expects either party to spend limited time and resources on places that are unwinnable but the parts where you BLAME the individuals living there is disturbing. It's not their job to govern themselves, that's why they vote for one of the two parties to begin with. You act like it's some kind of sin to be in a minority voting group. It's the job of each party to both govern and win elections. You're implying that some innocent person who often doesn't have much time, money, or expertise is supposed to run around trying to get people to change their vote, fight against gerrymandering, try to convert a bunch of extremists, etc. If all this is the job of the average person then why vote for Democrats at all?
@user-Dumbunny
@user-Dumbunny Ай бұрын
@@Savalatte Agreed. A focus on connecting with blue collar Americans can play a big role in future elections. Also, as the caller pointed out, Kentucky elected Andy Beshear. Kansas has Laura Kelly. North Carolina has Roy Cooper. Senator Tester represents Montana, and Sherrod Brown represents Ohio. People in 60%-40% red states are willing to vote for a Democrat if the messaging is right. Once you get outside the resistance liberal and MAGA bubbles respectively, the majority of the electorate does *not* see politics as simply a red vs. blue contest, contrary to what OP believes.
@ct6852
@ct6852 Ай бұрын
Cruz is losing in the polls right now. Things may actually be changing.
@jamesnesbitt2941
@jamesnesbitt2941 Ай бұрын
@@ct6852 if he gets elected out I will be more than happy to be wrong.
@charlesandrews2360
@charlesandrews2360 Ай бұрын
I completely disagree. A huge percentage of Union voters who support the Republican Party do so because of cultural issues. Not all of them and it's not because they are uneducated and don't understand how beneficial strong labor unions are.
@exiledfrommyself
@exiledfrommyself Ай бұрын
It's a combination of cultural issues, sexism and racism and being uneducated. I've talked to many people on the job and they don't know what the NLRB is and how important it is to the labor movement.
@charlesandrews2360
@charlesandrews2360 Ай бұрын
@@exiledfrommyself I'm friends with a lot of people and have a lot of family who work for the railroads. They all are very well aware of what the union does for them and the various governmental agencies involved. They all vote Republican. They give bulshit reasons but I know firsthand that every one of them is a racist. If a union member doesn't want to be informed on Union matters then that's on them and means that their support for the Republican party is based on something else.
@moyosoredada3109
@moyosoredada3109 Ай бұрын
While they were buttressing her point, I think there is some thing ironic about her getting interrupted so they could get their rhetoric off
@onuwaekwueme3301
@onuwaekwueme3301 Ай бұрын
Believe me no one thinks people of red states are stupid. But just look at the people red states have presented as representatives: Hershel Walker, Tom Tuberville, Roy Moore, Lauren Boebert, Majorie Taylor Greene, Mark Robinson, Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, Lindsey Graham, Tim Scott, Byron Donaldson……the list goes on and on. All these people I’ve named have done nothing meaningful in Congress or were quite just simply unequivocally unqualified for the role, yet people vote against their interests. At some point, people have to look at the data.
@Savalatte
@Savalatte Ай бұрын
I don't understand what you're trying to say? The people you list are Republican. This website is left leaning so most people on this website are also left leaning. Generally speaking liberal websites critique conservatives while something like the daily wire condemns liberals. I'm an independent but mostly vote Democrat now because they better represent my interests. Many people in my area vote conservative because they tend to be religious so it does represent their interests. Are you trying to insinuate that people like me on here who live in conservative areas/red states secretly vote for REPUBLICANS?
@onuwaekwueme3301
@onuwaekwueme3301 Ай бұрын
@@Savalatte not saying that at all. But people with your viewpoint are in the minority. All I’m saying is that even if a Democrat can win a few counties in a red state, the majority will vote republican. Nothing wrong with voting either party, unless voting that specific party is against your interests.
@Savalatte
@Savalatte Ай бұрын
@@onuwaekwueme3301 I think my opinion is different because I don't think it's okay to vote Republican right now at all as it's way too religious and undemocratic. But it very much represents the interest of many people, that's for sure. I want to vote for Democrats because I want them to stand up to the GOP all across the country, not just in safe blue areas. Most conservative areas still have significant (say 30 to 45%) amounts of people voting Democrat and yet people on here essentially blame people in these areas and tell us that unless everyday average people take time out of their busy day to fight gerrymandering, voter supression efforts, religious extremism, etc. And then when we're done with that we have to get way more people to vote Democratic and only once it gets close to 50% then the Democrats will take over from there? Hell, if we could do that we wouldn't need the Democrats. We would just start our own party and to be honest I think it would be way easier to start from scratch because the Democrats have mostly spent the last 15 years or so focusing on LGBTQ and even borderline demonising average people by saying lots of people are always racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, ignorant, evil, etc. and the problem with always doing this is that it becomes like the boy who cried wolf where people get tired and just stop caring about opinions at all. I think this problem (as well as fear of a declining religion) is the main reason for the rise of Trump.
@gabeasher187
@gabeasher187 Ай бұрын
This is an important conversation that the country needs to talk about.
@milesblue638
@milesblue638 Ай бұрын
Willful ignorance is a form of stupidity.
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 Ай бұрын
We have to quit demonizing stupidity. I know people with low intelligence who are kind, curious, & empathetic & who recognize the need to protect people who are vulnerable & to maximize opportunities for fulfillment + happiness in the population. Oh, & they vote. "Stupid" isn't automatically "mean" & shouldn't be treated as synonyms. Intelligence doesn't mean much about your character, either --- look at Foghorn Leghorn Kennedy, the Rhodes scholar who used to be a democrat with no discernible accent until he moved South & refashioned himself as a Good Ol' Boy country doctor type, & definitely says wilfully ignorant things, like to Maya Berry in a hearing the other day. He knows better, he just doesn't care. I'll take someone who's slower but willing to learn + willing to become a better person + interested in other peoples' humanity + wellbeing over a Rhodes scholar deliberately choosing to be a sh-theel any day.
@bakeneko5343
@bakeneko5343 Ай бұрын
Kentucky stopped to vote Democrat in the 1950s but Civil Rights/Latino immigration are the main reason why rural America was captured by the GOP. You cannot convince them with economic reform (just like European proletarians who vote Far Right don't care about Leftist parties) . Nativism is their biggest concern hence the southern strategy
@Etatdesiege1979
@Etatdesiege1979 Ай бұрын
Exactly
@Etatdesiege1979
@Etatdesiege1979 Ай бұрын
I am glad you call it like it is.
@jacobtodd1622
@jacobtodd1622 Ай бұрын
William (Bill) J. Clinton won Kentucky in 1992 and 1996, with 1996 being the last General election that a Democrat won Kentucky on the Presidential level.
@mrbarahona78
@mrbarahona78 Ай бұрын
To be fair I ignore red states too
@ultimateinspector4901
@ultimateinspector4901 Ай бұрын
The message is universal. No one is ignored, they just don't listen correctly.
@williambartholmey5946
@williambartholmey5946 Ай бұрын
Keep telling 'em that. I'm sure it will work one these days and they'll start listening "correctly."
@okpil22
@okpil22 Ай бұрын
What is she doing to address the working class issues? She constantly talks about the middle class and strengthening it, but that is not the working class. Walz gets it and his messaging is much better, but he's not going to be the policy driver. Hope and joy only go so far without big policy items that demonstrate actual support
@corvacopia
@corvacopia Ай бұрын
The “middle class” isn’t universal; they can’t listen to things she’s not saying
@anodyne57
@anodyne57 Ай бұрын
You must be trolling. I can't imagine anyone saying this out loud without a chorus of laughter ensuing. Read it back to yourself, in the voice of a spouse in the middle of a misunderstanding.
@okpil22
@okpil22 Ай бұрын
@@williambartholmey5946 throughout this comment section, you see "these people are too stupid to listen" which is exactly the problem with the modern Democratic party's views of the working class
@claybadger
@claybadger Ай бұрын
Okay I just want to say Sam’s popup appearance after these videos is the greatest thing ever. 😂💙👍
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 Ай бұрын
It amuses me too but I still miss the song they played as the outdo for a while.
@BennyFromFalloutNewVegas
@BennyFromFalloutNewVegas Ай бұрын
Wyoming is a progressive state, especially with women's health and affordable college. If you told them they were being progressive they would get mad, though. Scott Morrow, a former postal union leader is running for Senate, but I'm worried he won't win just because they conditioned to always vote red.
@Justme-jq2np
@Justme-jq2np Ай бұрын
The same Wyoming that kicked Cheney out of office because trump is a liar
@mnmr1996
@mnmr1996 Ай бұрын
I disagree entirely, I have a ton of criticism of the dems and how they go about campaigning but not appealing to the most reactionary parts of the country isn’t one of them. I criticize them for abandoning any sort of populist rhetoric but let’s not water down the beliefs of people in deep red states and pretend that if they wanted to appeal to them they wouldn’t have to shift their platform massively to the right
@corvacopia
@corvacopia Ай бұрын
Tim Walz won as a congressman by huge margins in a deep red rural distract that’s Trump +20 now, he didn’t water down his message. Andy Beshear is the second most popular governor in the country, and the most popular Democrat, who wins time and time again, he doesn’t water down his message. Democrats don’t need to water down their message to make gains in these communities, they need to target the needs of working people in them and deliver for them. Obama made gains in rural communities in ‘08 because he campaigned on policy to help farmers who were struggling, he lost those gains in 2012 because he didn’t deliver, and a lot of them have a hard time trusting a Democrat anymore. A Dem needs to campaign on issues that help the working people in those communities and then deliver, that’s where you’ll start seeing things change and see the communities getting less reactionary, but right now the reactionaries are the main ones who try to make an appeal to them
@JP_Names
@JP_Names Ай бұрын
Seems to me like the biggest reactionary here is you fam. You're painting over a whole region using your emotions when anyone from here can tell you people are just looking for respect, a change from slow-rotting stagnation, understanding of our industries, and a path forward in communities where industries have become obsolete. There's other issues like our education systems getting completely wrecked and changing how people perceive a lot of things, but that can be overcome with outreach, not abandonment
@mnmr1996
@mnmr1996 Ай бұрын
@@JP_Names being reactionary is pointing out what appeals to voters now? You can’t pretend that deep red states don’t consistently vote against their best interests and vote instead for candidates that hollow out their education system, hollow out their job market, while giving corporations and the wealthy class more power over their lives in order to further reactionary goals. When the southern strategy was originally constructed, who do you think they were appealing to? That strategy hasn’t exactly ended, it just changes every election. Pretending that you guys just “vote for candidates that respect you” would be a complete and utter lie.
@mattdombrowski8435
@mattdombrowski8435 Ай бұрын
Nobody said they need to move right. They said they want to be treated like people and to have their concerns addressed. Those concerns have left wing solutions. Renewable energy and unions could have a big positive impact in communities where the only good jobs are in the coal mines, for example. Are you against treating certain people like people?
@SA-pj3fz
@SA-pj3fz Ай бұрын
⁠@@mattdombrowski8435Those people constantly vote against those proposed policies. They’re taught that unions are evil. It’s not worth spending time and money on those areas while Republicans are winning over swing states.
@sprockkets
@sprockkets Ай бұрын
Won't someone think of those poor white guys and their privilege.
@lurx2024
@lurx2024 Ай бұрын
Dolly Parton is a shining example of the class and sensibility that can come from Appalachia.
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 Ай бұрын
The history of Labour (or "Labor" for the States) includes a lot of significant movements, ideas, + battles coming straight out of Appalachia. If more of the anti-Pinkerton, anti-corporate actions were better known, they could identify that they live in a part of the world with a rich history of kicking back against the pr!cks.
@lurx2024
@lurx2024 Ай бұрын
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 I, like a lot of my countrymen take have taken the labor (labour) movement, and the sacrifices that were made, largely for granted. I get most of my understanding of its history through the Nation magazine.
@milqueto4st231
@milqueto4st231 Ай бұрын
When she said "Farm bill" i heard "Farmville" 🙃
@herOhface
@herOhface Ай бұрын
Agreed
@lovemoviesful2
@lovemoviesful2 Ай бұрын
Red states will vote Republican no matter what anyway, so I disagree. And because of the electoral college, of course they will aim at place that will matter. I live a in very red county, and even when there's a better candidate up for election, as long as it's not a 'R', they don't have a chance of winning.
@Savalatte
@Savalatte Ай бұрын
Almost no one really thinks that Democrats should waste time/money on anything other than swing states in the crucial run up to an election however beyond that, both parties have to play the long game. Democrats should be trying to win something in the future that they aren't winning now.
@Bigandrewm
@Bigandrewm Ай бұрын
The focus on "middle" class indicates to me that Harris has no real interest in addressing income inequality, it's just another round of the same punting the real problems to the next guy.
@shiobhan8648
@shiobhan8648 Ай бұрын
What and republicans do? Geez the rich are already losing their minds at taxing the ultra rich… Dems are saying middle class because saying poor is a given, who is pushing minimum wage, housing, infrastructure … Dems… if they mention poor the republicans leap to lazy people on welfare… Dems can’t do anything without numbers in house and senate
@animalzer0
@animalzer0 Ай бұрын
I think it's a question of ROI. During the Obama administration, when they were trying to move away from coal, one of their priorities was offering job training for good jobs that people without college degrees could get and thrive. I know the program focused heavily on West Virginia, and a strong majority of the participants tried to use the program to learn how to be coal miners. If Dems try to reach out to folks and they remain unmoved, it raises the question why would they try to increase their outreach? Is there a policy position Kamala Harris could run on to win Kentucky in the 2024 election? And if not, why spend a lot of time and money trying to set up, say, 2032 for a big leftward shift in Kentucky, potentially at the cost of HAVING A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN 2032? Maybe that's hyperbolic, but if you think donald trump is a threat to American democracy (I do), then the conversation needs to be about beating him overwhelmingly in THIS ELECTION. That doesn't mean there isn't room for a policy reach-out to red state voters during a Harris administration, but today she needs to focus on what's going to help her in the next six weeks, and that doesn't include a big appeal to voters in Kentucky that are going to reject her anyway. But it does point to WHY THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE WAS A BAD IDEA, because if it mattered HOW MANY votes the losing candidate got in a state like Kentucky, candidates would campaign differently. The electoral college makes it irrelevant.
@kapilchhabria1727
@kapilchhabria1727 Ай бұрын
We have tried this. Richard Ojeda, and Paula Green have been trying for years. Yes Andy Basheer did get elected from Kentucky but most of Appalachia just doesn’t vote in their own self interest but instead is more moved by xenophobia and populism.
@capdyn735
@capdyn735 Ай бұрын
Beshear also had name recognition and ran on the issue that was popular on the ballot. Further, from stuff I've seen people are more willing to split the ticket when it comes to the gubernatorial candidate as they don't effect the house, senate or executive.
@ocold-gp3oi
@ocold-gp3oi Ай бұрын
"Why dont the Democrats spend more time and money begging for votes of people who have a 0% chance of voting for them instead of vying for the constituencies that will actually decide the election in the last two months of the campaign?" I think you guys can't hear yourself speak sometimes
@Etatdesiege1979
@Etatdesiege1979 Ай бұрын
The people from Kentucky keeps voting against their own self interest. What can we do about it here in Illinois? It’s been 30+ years of McConnell and Ron Paul and his idiot son in the senate. They have a Democratic governor and the DNC has spend tons of money in campaigns in KY. I don’t understand that gripe other than grievance of the portrayal of Appalachia in popular culture. I just saw news of a sheriff shooting a judge in an a town in KY over a personal dispute. Maybe the stereotype has some base in reality?
@TheKeKApex
@TheKeKApex Ай бұрын
Why help people that will take it and still say you’re the problem fuck that lmao
@alingus
@alingus Ай бұрын
As a pioneering woman the TSwift hating, I agree I do love it when Emma gets a little dig in
@organicmagic8822
@organicmagic8822 Ай бұрын
Yes, I have been thinking the same thing
@Kentrosauruses
@Kentrosauruses Ай бұрын
FDR created thousands of Electric Cooperatives owned by the users of the cooperative. That’s literally democratic control over a means of production. And wheee did he do this? In rural areas that weren’t profitable for the big electric companies. These cooperatives still exist today. Socialism works for rural communities as much if not more than for the city.
@auntiedee9468
@auntiedee9468 Ай бұрын
Yea Kentucky! Missouri rural Dems are rising up too. We're Actively reaching out and supporting them. Not official campaigns, but people grabbing as much literature, schwag and signs we can get our hands on. We're sharing social media ads for state candidates so folks get more views. After the election, we're going for candidate training. With you, Sis.
@eustatic3832
@eustatic3832 Ай бұрын
Hello from Louisiana
@luperamos7307
@luperamos7307 Ай бұрын
They absolutely love John Kennedy there
@KentuckyWildcat666
@KentuckyWildcat666 Ай бұрын
Kimmy is absolutely 💯% right. Im a dem in KY. But not about Taylor Swift.
@powderedtoastfacekillah734
@powderedtoastfacekillah734 Ай бұрын
Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Harris may not have such a huge effect per se HOWEVER…she’s undeniably having an effect on voter registration. And IF that registration translates into votes then historically Democrats benefit from higher voter turnout
@mat3714
@mat3714 Ай бұрын
Because money is thing....
@firstlast8258
@firstlast8258 Ай бұрын
Money is at the job if you are able bodied
@mat3714
@mat3714 Ай бұрын
@@firstlast8258 What ?
@CorbinsDedah
@CorbinsDedah Ай бұрын
Like someone said in this comment section, you gotta get younger Dems out in front of these people. Promote pro labor, how they can help rural voters (tout the infrastructure bill and how it has helped them), vilify the tariffs levied, and offer solutions where they live. I live in deep red Missouri, and yes, the average voter here is dumber than a rock, but they vote emotionally, and Republicans play into that, for good or for bad.
@Savalatte
@Savalatte Ай бұрын
The root of the problem is religion. The GOP is almost completely merged with conservative religious culture regarding their opinion of LGBTQ, abortion, guns, socialism, manly men, (increasingly) lack of democracy under the guise of having godly laws, etc. I don't think you can really shift a lot of people w/o tackling that.
@ralphburnette
@ralphburnette Ай бұрын
This caller is great. I would like to hear more from her about how lay ministers have impacted things in Appalachia.
@ZERO_O7X
@ZERO_O7X Ай бұрын
The dems completely forgot red states, especially the southern ones. Same goes for Republicans too. I live in Arkansas and nobody campaigns here. The dems don't think we matter and the reps don't worry about us because they've become accustomed to just getting our vote. We're a forgotten people and I love my state and wish they would focus on us a fraction of how much they care about other mostly rural states.
@Priest84
@Priest84 Ай бұрын
Same here, and I'm in Oklahoma.
@JP_Names
@JP_Names Ай бұрын
I was pretty shocked and excited when I heard they were even putting funding into my congressional district here in Iowa, and that's only because he was already doing incredibly well. I get targeted resources, but it would make so much more long term impact to invest in our states across the board to give us local leaders pushing their policy to show what they could accomplish on the national stage, not to mention countering all these awful anti-reproductive health and anti-trans policies so we aren't forced to hope that the feds might come in and save us after we're already in the most dire straits
@im-here
@im-here Ай бұрын
Arkansan here, very interested in supporting local leftists/progressives when i can. Been paying attention to city council, county and state reps. Also voting against rep steve womack for us house
@ZERO_O7X
@ZERO_O7X Ай бұрын
​@@im-here Same. Also how disgusting is it how Gov Sanders recently did a rally for Trump in Michigan while ignoring us? Not that I'd ever vote for him or any republican, but the fact that she left our state to campaign for him there when she could have at least invited him here for it instead. It just goes to show how little she and the rest of the Republicans actually care about us. I'm not the biggest Kamala fan either, but I do really like Tim Walz and not even he will come here. We're a forgotten people and I know a lot if Arkansas lefties and am a member of the Arkansas chapter of the Satanic Temple.
@joedouche3818
@joedouche3818 Ай бұрын
When has red states ever cared about if Democrats remember them? did red states care about blue states during 2020 covid 19 epidemic? Nope! They cheered trump on to not send ventilators or mask. amazing people forget the wrongs they did.
@MartinChap
@MartinChap Ай бұрын
Being a Homeless Veteran for 10yrs if any of you think it's easy it's not. Nobody cares about our situation Now i make 22k weekly. have a home, a wife, a lovely daughter... A child of God. HALLELUJAH!❤
@MeganMars-x
@MeganMars-x Ай бұрын
How did you do it? Do explain please 😯 My family have been into series of sufferings lately
@MartinChap
@MartinChap Ай бұрын
Christina Ann Tucker is to be thanked. I got my self my dream house 🏠 just last weekend, My journey with her started after my best friend came back from New York and saw me suffering in dept then told me about her and how to change my life through trading with her. Christina A. Tucker is the kind of person one needs in his or her life!
@msdowning1
@msdowning1 Ай бұрын
< I know that woman(Christina Ann Tucker) If you were born and raised in new York you'd know too, No doubt she is the one that helped you get where you are!!
@Double_zee
@Double_zee Ай бұрын
Wow 😱 Me too Miss Christina Ann Tucker is a remarkable individual whom has brought immense positivity and inspiration into my life.
@Double_zee
@Double_zee Ай бұрын
I started with a miserly $1500. The results have been mind blowing I must say TBH!
@alexandraday6721
@alexandraday6721 Ай бұрын
From Ohio and I absolutely agree that they desperately need to include red states
@SA-pj3fz
@SA-pj3fz Ай бұрын
Disagree. That same thinking led to Democrats spending money and time on Texas and Missouri over the blue wall in 2016.
@miltz76
@miltz76 Ай бұрын
What a fantastic call
@katejackson4142
@katejackson4142 Ай бұрын
Democrats could never ignore red states as much as their elected republican officials. If I were to choose which red states are the safest to visit, it would be Iowa, Kansas, Austin, Tx maybe. Tim Walz already visited Nebraska and South Dakota.
@bradm6287
@bradm6287 Ай бұрын
I love you, Kentucky!
@firstlast8258
@firstlast8258 Ай бұрын
You can have it
@morgielastname7364
@morgielastname7364 Ай бұрын
What a great discussion, thank you for having it.
@khalxd1991
@khalxd1991 Ай бұрын
I’m sorry but imo I think it’s not a simple as was. Teemster poll shows despite dems being helpful for unions that they’d rather vote for anti union trump . Now most union members vote dem but still. There needs to be conversation n change , just giving these guys stuff n letting republicans take credit isn’t working
@corvacopia
@corvacopia Ай бұрын
Democrats aren’t taking credit, so when the Republicans are the ones taking credit of course they get the support from it. Teamsters still vote Dem a whole lot more than other people in their communities.
@sandrajackson709
@sandrajackson709 Ай бұрын
Probably because they watched that movie "Wrong Turn"
@filmorejohnson
@filmorejohnson Ай бұрын
I think a Walz visit could do very well in Alaska 🦅
@capdyn735
@capdyn735 Ай бұрын
I think it would be a good idea too! Alaska is a much more independently minded state than other 'red' states, the polling looks close-ish too! Maybe it doesn't flip this election cycle with investment but it could start the process for helping with future elections for house members, senatorial candidates and its handful of ec votes.
@warrensenna6690
@warrensenna6690 Ай бұрын
What are you talking about? This channel drives me nuts. What have the Democrats done? The beginning you said that the Democrats said it in the '80s. What did they say? Please enlighten me cuz that's when I started to pay attention to politics long before you please specifically tell me when the Democrats said they're going to give up on Appalachia in Kentucky It's more like those people gave up on themselves by just voting Republican all the time. Please stop with the nonsense
@corvacopia
@corvacopia Ай бұрын
“For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia” -Chuck Schumer, 2016
@warrensenna6690
@warrensenna6690 Ай бұрын
​@@corvacopia That means nothing People leaving Dem Because they get caught up in republican nonsense has nothing to do with Dem policy It's the same old scare them about the " others" Getting them all riled up There was one party in this country. Only one party that supports the people all the people and that's not the republicans it is the Democrats Problem of what this woman is saying is her and the people around her won't admit that Democrats are better for them than the Republicans
@warrensenna6690
@warrensenna6690 Ай бұрын
​@@corvacopia I meant to reply on the site Not directly to you
@davidbright6790
@davidbright6790 Ай бұрын
Great call!
@leifmidgorden4615
@leifmidgorden4615 Ай бұрын
Best caller ever. I found myself saying "damn right" to everything, which hasn't happened in years.
@jamesmcelroy5830
@jamesmcelroy5830 Ай бұрын
Saying that a teamster isn’t educated is a very ignorant thing to say. It takes skill to get a CDL License. To drive certain vehicles. It’s definitely not easy.
@exiledfrommyself
@exiledfrommyself Ай бұрын
I work with them. They aren't educated. Most people on construction sites are not educated.
@johnjingleheimersmith9259
@johnjingleheimersmith9259 Ай бұрын
lmao. can't tell if you're joking or not.
@BarbaraFlowers-wq1ru
@BarbaraFlowers-wq1ru Ай бұрын
Well if you get it then go vote blue stop complaining why are you constantly complaining just go vote blue
@cpussandfudgy
@cpussandfudgy Ай бұрын
People in red states didn’t flock to Trump despite his glaring flaws…his flaws are what attracted them. I don’t know what message Democrats are supposed to present to win these people over. Harris is smart for hitting red towns in swing states but campaigning in places like Kentucky would be a waste of time and resources.
@robertkennedy9188
@robertkennedy9188 Ай бұрын
I’m a Swiftie but also a Marcusian Marxist so very torn about what I’m hearing
@ibroasis
@ibroasis Ай бұрын
Smh...they told you guys the dems say you are stupid, and you jumped to the conclusion that the dems think you are stupid.
@cartilagehead
@cartilagehead Ай бұрын
This is what happens when you apply an investor mindset to things like politics and public services, you get elites disinvesting from areas that need more attention and resources rather than less because “the ROI isn’t as good”
@SA-pj3fz
@SA-pj3fz Ай бұрын
I mean we saw in 2016 how democrats lost because they spent too much time and resources into Texas and Missouri. It doesn’t make sense to spend money in areas that aren’t receptive while republicans win over swing states.
@frameandi
@frameandi Ай бұрын
Kentuckians are democrats, too :)
@matsal3211
@matsal3211 Ай бұрын
This is a video that should be clip and turn into a short, there’s so many vids of them that should be a short.
@masonsmith5726
@masonsmith5726 Ай бұрын
I second that!
@marzero116
@marzero116 Ай бұрын
All states matter...😐
@truthofevolution
@truthofevolution Ай бұрын
I would agree with this, but conservatives are constantly talking about Hollywood liberals, and New York liberals and San Francisco liberals as an insult. Don’t we matter? They can’t have it both ways.
@frameandi
@frameandi Ай бұрын
I'm a progressive, but I also like good music. I've learned from an early stage to separate the art from the artist. I like plenty music by Taylor, Jay, and Ye. Liking something is not an endorsement. Gatekeeping isn't the way, enter post-elitism. "Like what you like, just don't be a d1ck about it." - Brian Zane
@Phoenix-nl2ut
@Phoenix-nl2ut Ай бұрын
This caller gets it
@leilaniaileenlove
@leilaniaileenlove Ай бұрын
"states" SHOULDN'T MATTER. PEOPLE'S INDIVIDUAL VOTES NEED TO MATTER.
@lwo7736
@lwo7736 Ай бұрын
This woman screams "insecurities about intellect", no one on the left is calling her stupid, we are calling right wing ideas stupid. Which they are. Sorry if that triggers your insecurities
@brianmarcum8306
@brianmarcum8306 Ай бұрын
Bernie Sanders has spoken about this issue.He is an economic populist with values I am a Fred Harris Democrat.I think Tom Harkin was a populist too.
@lovetheno
@lovetheno Ай бұрын
I agree with the caller I am from AL and I feel that we get ignored.
@craigfaulkner3361
@craigfaulkner3361 Ай бұрын
Kimi…. I’m from KY and have been saying the exact same thing for last few years!! Why are we fly over state for Democrat politicians?
@pammakwa4731
@pammakwa4731 Ай бұрын
Are you guys trying to make Harris lose
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