Republican Healthcare Strategy Isn’t Resonating With Voters

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[@lloydbonifide]

...and let's not forget that Trump said in 2015 that he was going to "repeal and replace Obamacare on Day one and it's going to be so easy." DAY ONE, he said! DAY ONE! Nine years later, he has concepts of a plan...ok...

[@danielzimmerman5837]

You have to give him a bit of a break. No one knew how complicated healthcare was. 😂

[@briansager3744]

It's almost like Trump doesn't understand the healthcare industry at all.

[@ozsheila55]

If not for McCain who knows how many the pandemic would have claimed.

[@synchronium24]

Let's be glad Trump was incompetent enough not to keep his word.

[@synchronium24]

@@ozsheila55 word

[@BbVortexMortinghan]

It's infuriating how confident JD Vance is as he basically says their plan is to blow up healthcare, it's like saying "our plan to fix the plumbing in your home is to simply remove all of the pipes!"

[@ngotemna8875]

Can't have clogged pipes if you.....uhm....have no pipes!

[@gamervox1707]

That what Reagan did with the broken mental health system lead to modern republicans having a base of cultist.

[@akouri6967]

This might be the best analogy of, well, every Republican plan for everything

[@AaaaNinja]

Makes sense: no plumbing, no plumbing issue.

[@brendanoehl5018]

More like remove all of the control valves. Then the water (aka health insurance profits) will gush freely. Your pockets will be emptied and the CEOs will be swimming in the cash.

[@williammcadoo8685]

Often forgotten is that the 2017 Trump-supported proposal would have also slashed Medicaid by hundreds of billions

[@wvu05]

And would have taken away insurance for 24-32MM people.

[@MikeP-sq6be]

JD's plans for healthcare: "Make Grandma take care of everyone".

[@Nickelodeon81]

And if you need surgery, just get Grandpa to do it...

[@BlackCat6285]

While also not working and paying more for everything.

[@blasphimus]

Good thing nobody has thought of that before! I'm surprised he didn't say to go to the church and talk to your pastor about getting g the right prayer for your health issues too

[@templarw20]

It's like all the people that think the ACA was horrible because "we couldn't keep our plan" No, you didn't actually have a health plan.

[@archaicsoul4597]

Every Vance answer: “Well first let’s circle back to something you didn’t ask…”

[@21972012145525]

And Emma falls for it literally Everytime. It's like she's never heard a politician 😅

[@ngotemna8875]

God i wish somebody would tell him "No, we will not. I asked a specific question. Please answer it" And if he tries that again "Alright, so you *refuse* to answer" and then get to the next topic

[@jessjess23brooks89]

​@@21972012145525Nah, slick politicians switch it up. They answer some, they pivot others. They pick their battles, but they do answer questions. Vance refuses to answer even innocuous things immediately. It's like he saw a caricature of a politician and decided that was going to be his goofy ahh career.

[@trappedinamerica7740]

@@ngotemna8875they tried that at the NABJ and he lost it “That’s wasn’t the question sir” “What a nasty woman”

[@only_HIGH_grade]

​@ngotemna8875 can they do that to Kamala "word salad" Harris? She runs on not answering questions... just to make more questions from her answers that don't answer the original question

[@rhylin26]

2:30 JD’s resting face is one of the most punchable I’ve ever ever seen.

[@mythicsin3083]

It really is.

[@hizzlemobizzle]

It's really creepy.

[@templarw20]

I mean... Gaetz is possibly worse.

[@thedude426]

He has RWF (Resting Weird Face) before he gives any response. The delay time between the response doesn’t help him at all.

[@ozsheila55]

Ikr? I always thought Ted Cruz was the most unlikeable but along came JD.

[@ZERO_O7X]

"But...wont someone think of the big pharma CEO's and shareholders profits for the majority of drugs created using our tax dollars?"

[@douglemay7989]

Biden has been lowering drug costs.

[@ZeldagigafanMatthew]

I'm thinking about them alright. Thinking of ways I ruin them for price gouging, and put the insurance companies out of business for denying claims on "prematurely worn out" devices.

[@vxicepickxv]

I'm getting hungry all of the sudden.

[@Robert_Bob_Bobrob]

They do have policy, it's just incredibly unpopular so they have to avoid saying it out loud!

[@Antares-Dragon]

I agree. It's tax cuts for the rich without paying for them increasing the deficit and debt. Bankrupt the government to force the Koch agenda of dismantling the government through sabotage instead of actually voting to cut services before cutting taxes. Anti-labor. Sabotage the IRS. And use religion to control people. Privatize everything so they can create monopolies and control everything so we the people have no say in anything. We also have less power over privatized entities even though they are part of the commons they can mess with us and it blocks oversight. Education destroyed turned into a class based system for the rich so they can control who is educated and who isn't.

[@darkhobo]

Yeah. "1940s Germany" isn't exactly a super popular policy position. Yet. Here we are.

[@OneEyeShadow]

​​@@darkhoboThe 1940's Germany policies are the ones they're proudly proclaiming, though: "They're eating our dogs! They're like locusts! We're gonna deport 20 million _illegal_ ;) immigants!" It's the other stuff they're more guarded about.

[@Gregorypeckory]

Their policy is so bad, Trump has to pretend to have nothing to do with the detailed, comprehensive plan, Project 25, that is absolutely a detailed blueprint for elevating the already way to powerful executive powers to a clear dictatorship, and for the destruction of democracy and the administrative state. They definitely wish they could hide it from the public until we're trapped into living with it.

[@jessjess23brooks89]

Yup. Project 2025 is Trump's policy. But he knows it's political suicide to admit that. So he's just pretending there is something else brewing and sowing discord so no one focuses on it too much.

[@briansager3744]

I seem to remember Trump being furious with John McCain about voting against the repeal of Obamacare. Doesn't sound like a guy who chose to work within his predecessors framework.

[@redmed10]

Trump knows all about repealing but nothing about replacing. Fortunately he found it impossible to repeal but not for want of trying.

[@thesummerland6165]

and held that grudge like an impertinent brat

[@thejosh3866]

The more I hear JD Vance speak, the less impressive Ivy League education seems.

[@forrestgossett]

Come to Florida and listen to Governor Ron…..another Ivy Leaguer.

[@thesummerland6165]

@@forrestgossett Bush jr

[@JohnSmith-ss5zk]

All of my republican associates have no problem benefitting from Democrat policies 🤌😔😒🫢🥱

[@trillionbones89]

And they wonder why they are called deplorable

[@monicarenee7949]

I wonder if they remember what it was like before the healthcare act. It’s like they can’t remember they used to be able to get kicked off insurance plans and that the people who needed insurance the most couldn’t get it

[@joshuaDstarks]

Vance is a shiver in search of a spine.

[@Remedy462]

Quote of the month.

[@mintyfreshmat]

The argument that young people need less healthcare infuriates me. In my group of friends as teen and twenties, two died before the age of 30. Statistically that argument may be true, but cancer doesn’t give a shit if you’re young and young people shouldn’t have to take that risk!

[@thesummerland6165]

I'm sorry I get infuriated when people wrongly say 'why should I pay for someone else's healthcare' bc they're too stupid to understand it protects everyone just like an employee insurance would which everyone contributes to and it would cost less than our current broken system this country is so disgustingly SELFISH..me, me, me and if anyone else gets anything it's less for ME!

[@MBarberfan4life]

I've never understood it. That's the point of insurance: to protect you from stuff you don't want to happen to you.

[@mythicsin3083]

We have some concepts for a health care plan- Donald Trump 2016-2024

[@warriorwaitress7690]

Still waiting for his tax returns, too.

[@masx4468]

@@warriorwaitress7690 Sorry, the FBI got them in the raid along with all the other bathroom secrets.

[@modhatter113]

Still waiting Donald................

[@Gregorypeckory]

Also "it will be done in 2 weeks", for the last half or more of his time infesting the White House.

[@lorihamlin3604]

It’s been 8 years and T is just now working on concepts. He had 4 years to address infrastructure but it never made it past “concepts”.

[@alwillmu]

It’s actually WAY better for everyone to be in the same pool… it spreads the cost so now the pool of money is bigger…. Not sure how this concept doesn’t compute for these yokels

[@21972012145525]

That's why single payer is needed

[@akouri6967]

Govmint is scary

[@X2LR8]

People who don’t take care of themselves should pay a premium. Those who take better care should get steep discounts.

[@21972012145525]

@@X2LR8 that already happens in many insurance plans

[@akouri6967]

@X2LR8 that's a great idea, if healthy people didn't own cars, guns, etc.

[@pteroid11]

Turns out ‘Perish’ is not a popular policy

[@thesummerland6165]

hahahahahhaha

[@lloydbonifide]

I wore my new "I have concepts of a plan" t shirt for the first time this week and it was a BIG hit!!

[@juliollontop4812]

Trump doesn't talk to JD about his view about abortion, what makes you think they are talking about health care

[@vxicepickxv]

Why did you say a specific form of healthcare before mentioning general healthcare?

[@luisdavidllense2293]

(we have) The CONCEPT of a plan. . . while the rest of the world has ACTUAL plans.

[@TheChrisLeone]

Isn't the whole point of insurance to subsidize the cost of things for high risk people using the money from the larger pool of people? Also if my taxes need to go up for everyone to have healthcare I'm okay with that, but I'd imagine if we properly taxed corporations and slashed the military we'd have plenty of excess Edit: 12:10 exactly, Sam made the same point. These people don't even understand what insurance is

[@LollipopKnight2]

That's not the point of insurance; the point of insurance is to spread the damage from an unlikely event that everyone in a given pool has a risk of (in this case, serious illness) between all of them, so that nobody in that pool is shattered by it. For example, suppose two friends live in Tornado Alley, and they both put money into an account that either may access only in case of tornado damage. This is a form of insurance, and has no specific intention of subsidizing the person with the higher risk, just the person who winds up experiencing the damage. Caring for high risk people specifically is one of the purposes of health care policy, and is very important, but insurance specifically is not a subsidy.

[@synchronium24]

@@LollipopKnight2 based

[@thesummerland6165]

100%, thank you, and it would cost less than our current broken system

[@darkhobo]

No JD. We should all be in one pool. Everyone. Thats how insurance works. Also. Republicans are the ones that insisted on the individual mandate.

[@X2LR8]

No. It’s not fair to the people who take better care of themselves.

[@B03Eastwood]

@@X2LR8 There are other ways to get people to take better care of themselves

[@ericbarnett6771]

This is where I deviate from the Democrat talking point. I served six years in the Air Force. As such, I am entitled to lifetime medical care through the VA. I'm 56, I take two BP meds. Not a high acuity patient. Take the VA model and ramp it up to include every single American citizen. VA outcomes are better than private insurance by a wide metric. Any insurance is better than nothing, even if it is the government providing it. Cut the defense budget by a third and it will pay for itself.

[@21972012145525]

Medicaid is amazing

[@petersulewski]

"VA outcomes are better than private insurance" as a 23 year and counting military vet, that's 100% not true. the VA is f*ing terrible to deal with. the va wants to hand you a handful of pills and to go away because they are underfunded, overwhelmed and exceptionally poorly managed

[@ozsheila55]

Trump fix problems? Does not compute.

[@andrewholmes3116]

...they have a strategy?

[@raptorwhack5970]

They have a concept of a strategy

[@ComradeCatpurrnicus]

​@@raptorwhack5970 and the concepts for that strategy? Lies, hate, and fear, their usual.

[@BobParr2004]

@@raptorwhack5970I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT YOU FREAKING TOOK IT

[@gizmo5601]

Of course they have a healthcare strategy. It’s called the we don’t care, too sad, too bad, policy.

[@BobParr2004]

@@gizmo5601 hey it’s not their fault you are not filthy rich!

[@YesItsWitticus]

The risk pool of trying to privatize the VA care is atrocious too. If we can’t provide holistic preventative care we will watch costs and wait times balloon.

[@tobeyknolls6924]

JD is just like Byron Donalds--talk fast so they can't interrupt.

[@valrodgers8889]

I’m sorry, but Vance looks like a ventriloquists dummy in that interview😳🇦🇺

[@akouri6967]

That eyeliner is what does it. All he needs in a couple lines down from his mouth. He's already wearing a suit to match Trump's!😂😂😂

[@JamesCalabrese930]

Save ACA vote Harris

[@markgibson4658]

What strategy? Oh, you mean the concepts of a plan.

[@petersulewski]

1000% sure he doesn't even have said "concepts of a plan"

[@ancientburner]

I love whoever it is that's laughing in the background lol

[@dmclegg66]

Don't worry the health care plan will be here in 2 weeks.😝

[@warriorwaitress7690]

Along with his tax returns.

[@Nurdaholic]

Since the ACA is a handout to big insurance, the GOP is going to do nothing. This was their plan the whole time. Heritage Foundation wrote the basis of the ACA after all. The fact people have access to cheaper insurance is a secondary benefit of the ACA.

[@Kazutoification]

I don't know if people remember this, but Trump did have a plan in 2017. It was disastrously unpopular.

[@MBarberfan4life]

I thought it was technically Paul Ryan's plan

[@spamfilter32]

​@MBarberfan4life it was indeed. Trumps plan was to let the GOP legislators figure it out. And since the ACA was already their plan, they had no plan either and trapped themselves into a repeal for no other reason than that Obama implemented it.

[@steelbill1834]

Yes, it is frustrating. Unfortunately, the average person doesn't have a basic understanding of insurance and risk pools, and apparently neither does the average "news" anchor; somehow I'm far more qualified to do their job than they are, even though I don't have a degree in journalism.

[@southpaw1755]

Because I'm a retired U.A.W. member and turned 65 my and my wife's prescriptions are free.

[@vickihiggins1580]

Remember when Trump said, “Healthcare is hard.”

[@JerryMander-y2x]

I don't understand the idea of letting people being able to opt out of paying into a health insurance pool. You can't opt out of the risk of needing huge coverage, can you?

[@ThreaT650]

With healthcare, it is one size fits all. You need medical help, you get it. The idea that you need LESS coverage if you are healthy is absurd.

[@oyekunbiadams8742]

Why don't they point to countries like Canada or the UK and states like Oregon for example of what can work? The Democrats don't press their points home for some reason. They're getting way better though

[@21972012145525]

Of course they don't. They're also being paid by the same lobbyists

[@thesummerland6165]

and the 33 other nations with socialized healthcare for it's citizens! england, germany, france, etc some americans would rather other americans go without if it means they have to share or wait their turn, disgustingly selfish

[@user-it8mt3zg9f]

The fire hose of BS from these people is effin' insane. I'll never believe another word out of a Republican's mouth for the foreseeable future.

[@tutompop]

That was the lesson from the boy who cried wolf. Thought it was to warn me against being a liar, turns out it was to safeguard the sanity of everybody else trying to deal with pathological liars.

[@akouri6967]

Which is a problem, because that leaves the Democrats to self-police. I'm definitely voting Blue, but I'm not delusional enough to think we don't have plenty of scumbags in our midst, too.

[@missinterpretation4984]

Let’s not back up. Just answer the question.

[@DRChupacabrah]

nah, falsely claim trump isn't spiteful, then deflect to the abraham accords ffs

[@PollyTooman]

Well word salad no answer

[@BobParr2004]

But… they are pro life, right?

[@douglemay7989]

Forced birthers.

[@ann3923]

Anti-choice

[@kurks001]

JD Vance: always doing the opposite of "whatever makes sense."

[@kristianp2994]

But the other thing was he said Trump didn't just get rid of it.... He did everything he could try to rip out the ACA and it didn't happen because of John McCain and the Dems not because Trump was trying to make it better....

[@lexaproqueen9681]

As a 27 year old, I’m really glad Sam prepared me for the eventuality of either someday being 55 or not

[@DRChupacabrah]

3:20 complicated way of saying his laziness outweighed his spitefulness- wow what an accomplishment!

[@arcanineryu]

The republican strategy is for u to be ded of overwork at age 42.

[@benketengu]

Japanese national health insurance: About $2,000 dollars was my out-of-pocket cost following my heart attack. 17 days in the hospital plus ambulance ride. It would have cost only about half that had I not had a private room for most of the time after I got out of the ICU. Yes Health insurance cost is added to the taxes however it’s not so bad because it’s spread to everyone. To get my teeth checked it cost about $10 or so. And some other countries everything would be covered by national health insurance. Medical bankruptcies are immoral in the so-called wealthiest nation in the world. I am an American I moved over here after I had unsuccessfully voted against Reagan and Senator Jesse Helms.

[@matthewsommerville88]

There strategy: Give Us Money Dude

[@NextstopEverywhere-k1v]

Why are Americans so resistant to universal health care that doesn't cost the patient their homes? Vote blue 🔵 💙

[@absolutelycitron1580]

I'd say most people want it in America. But very few democrat politicians do, which kinda contributes to why people just don't vote at all

[@nerag7459]

Kulturkampf where they could genuinely offer the public anything like actual universal healthcare

[@gmfutube]

It is really simple. Cost of care is spread over a risk pool. Only question is do you want to add corporate profit to that formula.

[@konnrsz]

I'm from Brazil but I'm following the developments of the American elections. Does anyone know if JD Vance uses eyeliner, why his eyes are like that? He looks like a goth.

[@joshuaDstarks]

Only the finest guyliner

[@nenaaa1444]

Yes he can’t come out 😂

[@warriorwaitress7690]

Cosmetic tattooing?

[@smurxxx0910]

He uses just enough eyeliner to still be able to read to grade schoolers.

[@21972012145525]

He has blue eyes and dark eyelashes.

[@adamhbrennan]

Vance is such a snake

[@gsp4prez]

I work on cost containment for health plans (no denying care here), and the worst offenders for health care spend and waste is providers overcharging for medications. We’ve gotten million dollar wins for our clients just by moving where the medication is administered from (outpatient hospital setting to an infusion center, for example), for sometimes 50-60% savings. Negotiating drug prices would do a lot, but also capping a percentage over cost what a provider can charge would go a long way in reducing costs. Also, never believe anyone who says that single payer would harm innovation. 85-90% of funding for drug trials comes from public funds. It’s our research.

[@thesummerland6165]

ty, I live in a wealthy town and a man in line at pharmacy started yelling at me bc I said a man went blind bc he couldn't afford insulin and his mortgage, this wealthy jerk yelled at me that he worked in research and the man 'should be grateful he's in america'! after I said in canada it's 1/tenth the cost the greed in this nation is despicably cruel another time, a private nurse! argued online with me that we can't have socialized healthcare 'bc america is a republic!' are people so uneducated they can't comprehend socialized medicine is not communism?

[@msannthrope1863]

MEANWHILE, the REST of the DEVELOPED WORLD has UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE and a conversation like this is RIDICULOUS. I LIVED in Australia for 14 years. Universal healthcare WORKS.

[@thesummerland6165]

ty, it's maddening! th enumber of americans and ridiculous reasons they give for not wanting universal healthcare is astounding, and they're all incorrect reasons!

[@msannthrope1863]

@@thesummerland6165 They’re all mushrooms: kept in the dark and fed horse shit.

[@HKim0072]

Sam's grasp on the issues supported with historical details always impresses me. And, it's really a shame how terrible news organizations have become. Tim Russert would hammer people away on details of an issue. These "new" reporters don't have a clue on the history of the question they are asking. They just feel it's their job to ask random questions without any knowledge on the subject.

[@ashleyyyy8833]

The idea that young people don't need good healthcare is absurd. I was a young healthy 22 year old until I was a young 23 year old with MS.

[@I.am.dannniel]

“I and you and everyone else has to be a political activist. If we're not politically active, it ceases to be a democracy!” - Michael Moore

[@damejanea.macdonald2371]

The natural limit of decreasing pool sizes is to make each pool fit an individual which means you pay specifically for your own needs, which is to say being uninsured. He’s just trying to tiptoe towards everyone being uninsured.

[@terrencelockett4072]

Or at least underinsured

[@ThaTruFily]

MR national treasure :)

[@charlesandrews2360]

Every mainstream news interviewer does the same thing, ask the Republican a question, not listen to the answer and then ask anothrr question and then thank them for taking the time while they are busy campaigning to come on her program.

[@shroomer8294]

They have a healthcare strategy? I thought they didn't.

[@smartmama7928]

40,000 Arkansans lost their medicaide because of work requirements. It was an ansolute nightmare.

[@MichaelTorres-b2v]

Nobody wants to “choose the healthcare plan that best fits them.” People all want the same healthcare plan - I go to the doctor, and it’s free. I get sick and go to the hospital, and it’s free. That’s it.

[@CaliforniaBushman]

Why do I get the feeling it was: "J.D. it's Ka-ma-la. Not Ka-Mala. Or you sleep on the Couch until December 2025."😂.

[@amygeyer1166]

My own sister used to say that she was paying for my Medicaid because I was disabled even though my daughter was also being covered at the time. I don’t speak to my sister anymore.

[@unduloid]

It's curious how the USA has such problems with implementing a healthcare system that works so well in every other country it has been implemented in.

[@thesummerland6165]

the healthcare insurance industry and big pharma bribe our legislators via 'contributions' and lobbyists to pass legislation that benefits their trillions in profits in direct opposition to the needs of the citizenry..this is not a democracy, it is an oligarchy plutocracy and money rules all

[@MBarberfan4life]

​@thesummerland6165 I don't think that fully explains it. Big businesses have to pay their employees in healthcare benefits. The costs are out of control, so they would lobby against that. Lobbying isn't one sided, necessarily

[@unduloid]

@@MBarberfan4life Again, it is no problem in any other country.

[@deannaann1922]

I'm 40 and have had 8 surgery's in the past ten years. I know older people who have never been in the hospital as much as I've been. We pay a bit over 600 a month for me my husband and my 2 kids. It's insane

[@Whitewolf1273]

As a young 26 year old American I got stage 3 ovarian cancer I'm glad I had affordable health insurance

[@christopherweise438]

No......let's not back up to 2017 JD.

[@jasonholland3837]

I was a healthy 52 year old taking no medications. One day I developed sinus pain which turned out to be a tumor. I am battling cancer right now. My prognosis is good but without the ACA I would have a pre-existing condition and could lose my insurance even if I survive this disease.

[@marykateharkreader4646]

"I have a concept of a plan" is the most George Costanza thing I've ever heard.

[@b.e.e.l.i]

JD Vance looks like the German children begging for schnitzel on a stick from the animated film “Hoodwinked!”

[@X2LR8]

There should be penalties and discounts based on how well you take care of yourself.

[@thenoseknows9391]

I'm so glad I'm a veteran 👍🏽 I feel sorry for those civilians 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@blakecarter6650]

These news networks are beyond irresponsible.

[@jlighter1]

Small clarification. They didn’t quite get rid of the individual mandate. They set the penalty equal to $0. Similar impact, but the penalty could be brought back through one of those budget truck bills the way they zeroed it out (blanking on what they’re called)

[@thinkplanetearth2946]

The reason these "journalists" don't ask these follow up questions is, (a) they are ill informed, (b) they are too busy looking at their notes deciding which question to ask next, or (c) a combination of both. It's pathetic.

[@b.e.e.l.i]

American healthcare system: *Is terrible* JD Vance: okay but how can we make it ~worse~

[@price724]

Policy by republicans…lol

[@JB-kx9bx]

Keep your government hands off my Medicare!

[@sterlingfury]

Ronald Dump also proposed a pay cut for the military

[@andrewmcquade9413]

As a 36 year old with type 1 diabetes I’m handcuffed into a shit job so that I can stay on Medicaid.

[@FugacityCIT]

Putting everyone in one risk pool IS the point of insurance, if there is a point - the costs should just be socialized.

[@jtheist32]

Sam, there's literally no need to apologize for them not having policy. Anyone pretending that this Republicans do have policy is just absolutely insane.

[@adamfoofighters]

I feel like Americans are told by doctors that they need more medications than they really need. It's just business.

[@LG-rw6zf]

This is the biggest issue for me. It is frustrating that Fox and other conservative outlets don’t even cover this. His base has no idea that he has said he would get rid of it or doesn’t understand getting rid of it means bringing back pre existing conditions. It really is telling on how those outlets value their viewers.

[@akouri6967]

There's a reason you see a commercial for prescription drugs during every show

[@drubaselli4377]

I REALLY dislike hearing JD Vance smug voice

[@hoo_maan8735]

Like for real!!!!!

[@mlisaj1111]

Big business supporting Trump is very short-sighted. Chaos and corruption is bad for business, and as we saw in Trump’s term….Trump is all about chaos and corruption.

[@jrstocker3]

Wouldn't one be required to actually HAVE a plan before it could possibly resonate with anybody?

[@andrewc7512]

The comments of “healthcare needs are different fir 60 year olds than 30 year olds” is an argument for separate risk pools for ago. Its a spit in the face of how insurance works. Its a dumb argument when broken down, as they did. By small minded people. Its also the underlying reason for why floridas insurance market for hurricanes has slowly fallen completely apart

[@sprockkets]

Well of course he wants it that way - it's anti democratic and anti egalitarian to want everyone paying their fair share.

[@bsqwahlE]

Vance lies every time he opens his mouth and Vance lies straight to our faces and Vance insults our intelligence. That's reality.

[@akouri6967]

I clicked this to see if they finally developed a plan beyond "sell your house or die." They have not.

[@Maddie9185]

During the Trump administration not once did they present a healthcare plan option, because they don’t have one.

[@NOURINHO-rv5fk]

His voice is annoying he could be saying “I will kill you, and your family”, and people will be clapping their hands, and cheering him because nobody understands a word he is saying.

[@DimaRakesah]

"Why talk about our policies when we can hate on minorities? Amirite?" -JD Vance

[@boogaloojones1527]

What is Trump's plan..."Well 1st lets look at what Obama did and then Kamala should have done something else.". Ummm ok, but what is HIS plan???