We Need To Talk About Splatoon 3

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[@landensplatoon]

Weakest entry in the series may be a bit of a stretch. I know it's your opinion but the game added so many new features and forms of content, even if the update cycle was rough

[@yoursnatchedweave641]

3 is better than 2 in almost every way (except maps and octo expansion)

[@lexiw.145]

I had a lot more fun with 2 and if it wasn't for the Catalogue I would have stopped playing 3 a while ago. Not to mention The Octo expansion is leagues better than Side Order imo. Although 3's ROTM was better than 2's base story mode.

[@bazooga242]

sick brand new features and qol changes bro, too bad they barely make a difference inside the dumpster fire that is splat 3

[@bluemario5266]

A lack of third kits in the third game is the biggest fumble in splatoon history

[@VGF80]

Especially for me as a long time sploosh fan, seeing the weapon in such a sorry state in splatoon 3 hurts me a lot considering that we'll never get a sploosh 7. Considering that Nintendo already recycles kits/playstyles from previous games, I see no reason why they couldn't have second kits available at launch. And I think it's also a mistake for Nintendo to add more specials into the game when they're already struggling with adding more kits, and was it really worth it in the end? What did we ended up getting? A invulnerability specials with little counter play, a specials that causes accessibility problems, and two specials that make the existence of tenta missiles and reefslider all the more baffling. I believe that Splatoon 4 needs a higher emphasis on kits over adding new weapons, second kits should be available at the get-go and third kits need to be part of the main update cycle rather just unplanned content extensions.

[@GrimmRiot]

Splat2 would literally be peak if it has squid rolls and squid surges no one can change my mind

[@yoshfrosch4458]

I really hope they ditch the dumb catalog in the next game. It's really just a method to trigger FOMO among the players by locking the new gear and emotes and stuff behind a battlepass

[@tiramisuellie]

i think catalogs are fine if they're not FOMO my personal idea would be that each time you finish a catalog you go to harmony's shop and she asks you to pick amongst the past/new catalogues

[@_Agent10]

i think splatoon 3 is personally the best splatoon game yeah the update scheduals shit but it fixed all my issues with splatoon 2 2 examples are that we have nothing to do wall waiting in the lobby splatoon 3 fixed that i hated how we couldnt skip the news we can now skip the news

[@user-je5pk4ho9m]

I think it’d be a nice middle ground solution if they legitimized the mid season patches as actual opportunities for new content, so we can have a big blowout with maps and kits in the first half and maybe some kits and balance changes in the middle

[@JDragon272]

On top of community drama and others showing their true colors… as it progressed, it all had “Gone to Hell in a Hand-Basket”. Seemed like every season, you’re automatically dealt a Bad Hand, either Bluff Your Way In, or Fold the Hand and be Out. ♠️♦️♣️♥️

[@Callie1995]

I'm at the point where if I had to pick between playing Splatoon 2 or Splatoon 3, I would pick S2 all the way. Yes S2 has a ton of problems, yes some of the weapons in that game have questionable kits, yes that game also doesn't have the greatest maps(possibly worse than S3's maps),Salmon Run in S2 isn't as fun as S3's version, etc. At this point almost no-one plays it anymore. I know S2 is heavily flawed, but at least I WAS HAVING FUN whenever I was playing it. S3 just feels like a chore whenever I play it. While I do still like S3, it just feels underwhelming at this point in my opinion.

[@yurareigiryu]

What about emotes, banners, table turf, salmon run, lockers!? How does gear compare between games? Do comp players only care about kits and maps?

[@dean9472]

I feel like the biggest issue is the midseason patches being so bare bones. If each season added 8 weapons at the start and then 2-4 in the midseason, and the seasons with 2 new maps added one at the start and one in midseason, the entire update cycle would have felt better. I'd even go as far to say the game should have released without stamper, reeflux and sturgeon shipyard, and they all get added in october 22 instead. It would have been so much more hype this way, and kept people engaged.

[@MattisticStatistic]

These would definitely be steps towards the right direction - the seasonal model is a major source of many of the game's issues because of how long it takes to get to the next one

[@Olavi_VLIi.47]

I think the best option is for them to just add more stuff per season. Seasons happening more often would definitely be nice, but having each one give us more content would be nicer

[@dynamorolleruser]

splatoon 3 is a perfectly fine game you just have to look at the ✨bright side✨

[@Strawberry-uq9fj]

I just played a battle with you and looked up your channel! Your videos are very cool!

[@BakedCalamari]

Easiest way to fix "kits" is make them customizable.

[@baldor9562]

with splatoon 3 being the first splatoon game i really played and enjoyed it always makes me sad that this game is suposedly weak compared to splatoon 2, hope they either make splatoon 3 really great in coming uptades (although i dont set my hopes too high) or atleast the next entry in the splatoon series will be very awsome

[@Chiijam]

Worst part is its just a new kit, we KNOW they can make another one...

[@prestonandtom9337]

I thought Fresh Season 2024 only had 10 weapons added. I think you miscounted. Edit: Oh you included Custom E-liter scope.

[@squiddler7731]

Though I agree that I'm mostly disappointed by how updates have been handled, I disagree with the notion that Splatoon 3 is the weakest entry in the series. What it really is is the game with the most _missed potential._ The developers didn't botch the games updates, the just fell short of expectations and failed to make the game as fun as it could have been. Compared to the other two games, 3 is still the best by far. I struggle to go back to 1 because of how bare the UI and movement was, and 2 had special weapon design that was fundamentally flawed and was never able to be fixed. And compared to _other shooters,_ Splatoon fans have been eating so well. Like look at something like Halo Infinite or Overwatch. That's what it looks like when developers actually fail their games, and end up constantly cutting content that was planned to be released. Splatoon 3 by comparison just failed to capitalize on the incredible potential it had at launch. It's disappointing and I wish the game was better than it is, but it was still the best Splatoon game when it first came out and it still has only improved since then.

[@Polmo1997]

There are many things that suggest me a bit of bias against Splatoon 3. -While we have a 2 updates per season as a base, these are just the major and balance updates, and the frequency is pretty much like Splatoon 2. There were plenty of bug fix specific patches that were made on different times, the devs never strictly limited to 2 patches. Also regarding splattercolor screen, you have to consider that Nintendo is a hugely organised company, each updates need to take many layers of approval and testing, like many of the content they released now, they probably were in development months ago. -while I agree that for some fans of other weapons it could be frustrated to wait 21 month before getting a second kits, Splatoon 2 launched with missing weapons from 1 and even then, some players had to wait over than a year. -For the stages, we started with more stages at launch and while their release was a little slower at the start, in the end it was more costant than 2 and allowed and got in the end more stages reworks. -The meta of Splatoon 3 is so much better than 2, and having a schedule for the balance patches allow the player to know when to expect the next changes. -A seasonal models allow to have patches that are more marketable, splatoon 2 got 3 major updates, and most of the content was lade out in a way that only the already costant player would know what happen. -Some of the season are already themed, the patches that released with the different Plazas, already features elements like gears and emotes from their origin game. -Limited run game modes are likely a decision to reduce the amount of lobbies, right now there are 6 type of lobbies and in some country at some hours finding a game could take some time, adding more lobbies would make the problem worse. I feel like Splatoon 3 content updates is really underrated from the community and the update cycle was really healthy, Splatoon 3 got tons of contents on each updates (just don't focus only on battle stages and new weapon) and everything is free without microtransaction and looking other gaas, their updates are often more lacklustre in terms of contents

[@Lisku_]

reasons why I think S3>S2 -Splatoon 3s graphics are so much better than the others -third kids would be incredibly hard to balance evenly -the maps that we have been getting in the past year are mostly good -the game design is amazing -the lore is still good -the meta is in an ok spot -the update cycle is good, quality> quantity -side order wasn’t a flop -The Splatoon community isn’t that bad -The balancing is so much better than in S2 S3 was my first game, but based on what I’ve heard of The other games, people have been complaining and stretching the negativity way too far about this game. It’s really not that bad. seasons every two months would just make the quality worse yeah towards the end the content distribution started to slow down. but let’s be honest the maps and weapons have been so much better. yeah this game could’ve been better. Imo this is a huge stretch, but I respect your opinion

[@bluetoad6848]

Splatoon 3 had the potential to be the best in the franchise. Unfortunately, they've fumbled it so hard that I can only consider it a marginal improvement over 2. Splatoon 1 is still probably the best one.

[@statbrainrat]

I appreciate the humility while talking about what you think went wrong with the game. Its really refreshing to most other splatoon videos ive seen from other creators! I really like your idea as well, but it makes me wary for one specific reason: quality of updates. It would be so cool to get all that new stuff in a similar fashion to splatoon 2, but from what ive heard of that game in terms of general enjoyment while playing compared to 3, the gap is massive. Larger than basic design gaps like a lack of squid rolls or abundance of stingrays, in my opinion. If we could get a similar quality of patches at a quicker speed, I'd be down, but I personally feel like slower patching might be for a reason. Nice video, though, i liked it :)

[@InhaRelic]

My biggest critique of any video like this is that it asks for a lot of things, saying "we need more content", which is fine, but later on most of them complain about bad map design, or that S3 feels "rushed". Those are 2 real problems that the game has, but im pretty sure that if we had this 2-month seasons, there would be a lot of people complaining how shitty new content is.

[@slantedhorizon1021]

It's annoying that they're still doing patches as if it's S2 update cycle style where they don't change too much

[@lexiw.145]

Seriously Themed Seasons would have been awesome! I'm still disappointed in the gear pool and was hoping for more variety instead of so many basic boring outfits

[@andawesome6981]

To be honest I really think a lot of the problems you mention stem from the terrible awful slow kit system. Really if the kit system was changed to be something like completely customizable kits I don't think this discussion would even be a thing. It's just really really disappointing when the other games had at least decent sub special distribution and this one has by far the worst. Imo, that's the only reason this game could be considered the worst one. (other than the kit system it did a lot more right than the other games in my opinion)

[@arthroku-juroku8481]

i just want third kits 😭

[@djboy0956]

This game was meant to be the best splatoon game, but at the missed potential for challenges, there's also the fact that we won't be getting content exetension like it's really annoying

[@polishpower96]

How did we get no new modes in any of the seasons?

[@RampageArby]

Excellent Video. I agree that the seasonal update model is the main flaw with Splatoon 3 (other than the abhorrent map design). This game had the most potential, but then failed to take advantage of said potential. One personal gripe I have with this game it will introduce legitimately fun ideas (Challenges, Eggstra Work, ) but will then proceed to make them unplayable.

[@Torqegood]

I feel like it'd be an easy solution to let you freely pick your weapon and subweapon. If adding new weapons in is just unlocking those options pretty much for each combo.

[@dotrex37]

Yeah, while it is rhe most practical and useful idea, that would mean that the next new weapon is gonna be a new weapon type

[@thewanderingchelmet]

Is it that hard to make kits?

[@Qkochan3]

it is 100% the weakest, used to say 2 was but then 3 came out. like the maps are worse than either 1 or 2, splattercolor screen made it to live somehow, kits took up to 2 years somehow, etc etc. they peaked with splatoon 1 and declined afterwards

[@oWest_]

play smash bros

[@Finesseprime]

S3 is just so bad.

[@giganticmoon]

it is the weakest entry imo, while 2’s only real weakness was balancing