WE NEED TO TALK about the INSANE Pro-Nazi Comments Sections of Hitler Videos

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The Kavernacle

The Kavernacle

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@videogamenostalgia
@videogamenostalgia Жыл бұрын
“I’ve studied Hitler a lot” No Jordan, wearing an SS outfit in your bedroom and saluting into a mirror whilst crying for hours is not studying.
@reddawn1873
@reddawn1873 Жыл бұрын
But i've been doing that 20 years
@decodyg484
@decodyg484 Жыл бұрын
Phd in cosplay 😢
@tubian323
@tubian323 Жыл бұрын
My gawd, that's a can of worms! What do you mean by "salute"? What do you mean by "alone"? If you think you can simply criticize without the philosophical implications you got another thing coming Buddy! Lobsters.😂
@jochenkraus7016
@jochenkraus7016 Жыл бұрын
@@tubian323 And why so much hate against people who just like the letter "S"?
@missnerd1969
@missnerd1969 Жыл бұрын
What an awesome burn!!
@coasterblocks3420
@coasterblocks3420 Жыл бұрын
I’m astonished that anyone could listen to a Hitler speech and not come away thinking “what an unhinged lunatic”.
@Kurrentschrift
@Kurrentschrift Жыл бұрын
His rhetorical skills are quite good though. If you ignore the content or imagine yourself with 1930s german values it’s quite interesting to see how convincing hitler may have been.
@segue2ant395
@segue2ant395 Жыл бұрын
@@Kurrentschrift If we have to ignore the content (deplorable) and the delivery (unhinged), what are we admiring?
@Kurrentschrift
@Kurrentschrift Жыл бұрын
@@segue2ant395 i don’t think that the delivery is unhinged, as a german i can only say that his oratory skills are probably the best i have ever heard. the content of his speeches are obviously not appealing to me at all, but the delivery is top notch. Also looking without hindsight some arguments he make appear convincing, for me he gives of a strong deception/appearance of honesty which helps to deliver his points.
@thyowen
@thyowen Жыл бұрын
@@Kurrentschrift its all the yelling and screaming that comes across unhinged.
@Thefire591
@Thefire591 Жыл бұрын
@@Kurrentschrift "looking without hindsight" so you need hindsight to realize what his saying is wild ? I am sorry dude, but lowkey admitting to getting manipulated by good rethorical skills or fallacious populist logic is not a good sign.
@witzenschaftler_in
@witzenschaftler_in Жыл бұрын
As a German whose history education in school was majorly about WW2 and our responsibility to never let this happen again, this is pretty sad.
@brynawaldman5790
@brynawaldman5790 Жыл бұрын
From what I can tell Germany is the only country in Europe that has taken responsibility for it's antisemitism. All of Europe has an antisemitic history. Take pride in the national responsibility part. It's real.
@christianstephan7301
@christianstephan7301 Жыл бұрын
Also German here. I just dipped my toe into the first 3 minutes and I know this is going to be a blast. The world is currently so messed up that I can only laugh in disbelieve that this is actually happening. We've got all the political education to learn from propaganda, yet we can watch it in real time as populism is taking root again overseas, as well as in germany itself.
@witzenschaftler_in
@witzenschaftler_in Жыл бұрын
@@brynawaldman5790 Not taking pride is kind of our thing, tbh. :P And unfortunately it seems like most of the world is moving further right currently as response to marginalised groups becoming more visible and demanding well deserved equal rights. Anti-semitism seems to be on the rise again in Germany as well, unfortunately. :/
@Thefire591
@Thefire591 Жыл бұрын
​@@christianstephan7301no hope for humanity
@isaiahkayode6526
@isaiahkayode6526 Жыл бұрын
@@Thefire591 there’s always hope if good men do nothing Never Again.
@FeministCatLadySpinster
@FeministCatLadySpinster Жыл бұрын
Someone please tell Jordan Peterson that no, we don't have to give Hitler any sort of "due". Good grief.
@ahmadhadi177
@ahmadhadi177 Жыл бұрын
The N@2is also had depraved scum working alongside them like Willi Herold,Amon Goeth and Oskar Dirlewanger.They're absolutely depraved,even by N@2i standards.
@buzzhawk
@buzzhawk Жыл бұрын
Lawdy, that will change his mind! Jayzus take the wheel!
@golentan
@golentan Жыл бұрын
I would say we should have given hitler what he was due, but the dictator himself beat us to the punch on april 30th 1945.
@FrozEnbyWolf150
@FrozEnbyWolf150 Жыл бұрын
@@golentan Yes, Hitler did one good thing, which was kill Hitler. Though he also killed the man who killed Hitler.
@Lorenz1973
@Lorenz1973 Жыл бұрын
Peterson seem to have a very poor understanding of the historical or cultural context, so he misinterprets Nazis/ Nazism from his contemporary cultural perspective and his own political ideology. He seems to not even understand how core antisemitism was to Nazism - he doesn’t understand why the mass murder of European Jews continued until the end, even while the Nazis were losing the war… Peterson does not seem to fully understand the racism/ antisemitism which directly led to the genocide and is such a core part of the Nazi ideology 🤔 - his wild theories in that area are just so unbelievable stupid…. and deeply disturbing.
@nemoignorat2443
@nemoignorat2443 Жыл бұрын
As a German I am horrified that it took us (as a species) only 80 years to forget everything. (We see a rise in fashism here as well.)
@cegesh1459
@cegesh1459 Жыл бұрын
Als half French, I'm not surprised. All 50-100 years Europe had a major war. It seems part of it.
@randomthings1293
@randomthings1293 Жыл бұрын
Real world looks more and more like Warhammer40K, by the day
@charisma-hornum-fries
@charisma-hornum-fries Жыл бұрын
You've also gone much more censorship happy. Banning artists for their opinions never seems to happen before Ukraine was invaded. However what happens in Germany happens in Denmark a few years later. I know what's coming.
@ristekostadinov2820
@ristekostadinov2820 Жыл бұрын
fascism never ended tho, nazis were rehabilitated by the 1950s already
@scipioafricanus2071
@scipioafricanus2071 Жыл бұрын
It's a difficult thing. Humans have a limited life span so once the last people who lived through it die there's the risk of people forgetting even faster. To avert something like that repeating you have to cultivate a cultural conscience and memory of the horrors. But again it is hard to do so. Younger Germans now don't think the Nazi regime has anything to do with them and I often hear the line "It wasn't me who did it", or "I wasn't there, so why should I feel guilty?". It's a fundamental misunderstanding of what they're supposed to do. It's not young Germans fault it happened but it sure would be if it were to repeat itself.
@JoeNoshow27
@JoeNoshow27 Жыл бұрын
Germany: No Jobs Hitler: Everyone gets jobs creating war machines! Neo-Nazis: OMGurd he was an economic genius!
@darkshadowrule2952
@darkshadowrule2952 Жыл бұрын
Especially hilarious when you know they couldn't even afford to keep up the war effort, once their expansion began to stall, their funds and materials started drying up immediately
@Sunaki1000
@Sunaki1000 Жыл бұрын
And there just killed a bunch of political Enemys, leading into some vaccuums.
@lloroshastar6347
@lloroshastar6347 Жыл бұрын
@@darkshadowrule2952 yeah most of their early success in the war was due to the fact they became a nation where the bulk of their resources were poured into their military, and that they were given a lot of good will by Conservatives in Europe who felt Germany had been 'hard done by'. Stalin's treaty didn't help matters either. The rest of Europe struggled against him initially because their economy was also going towards things like a functioning society. Of course after they began their invasion, the looting began and that's how they were able to sustain themselves for so many years.
@Lorenz1973
@Lorenz1973 Жыл бұрын
@@darkshadowrule2952 Please also mention all the forced/ slave labour, which was a key pillar of the Nazi economic model. Not only European Jews but also fellow Europeans from the expanding occupied territories were forced to work in the war industries, general factories, farming, etc under inhumane conditions. In particular people from Central and Eastern Europe were treated like literal slaves/ slave labourers due to racist attitudes towards anyone considered ethnically Slavic …. so those people praising the Nazi economic model are pro-slavery. Approx. 12 million Europeans were forced into slave labour by the Nazis, 2/3 from Central and Eastern Europe. 20% alone from Poland. So many of them died, the rest was left physically and emotionally damaged for the rest of their life. 6 million Polish people died during WW2 in total - how do people think that happened?!? Some of those slave labourers were on their return home considered “collaborators” by the Soviets and send to Gulags. This number of slave/ forced labourers does not include the European Jews completing slave labour prior to being murdered…
@something1600
@something1600 Жыл бұрын
@@darkshadowrule2952 After Barbarossa, Germany only had enough resources to attack Stalingrad.
@r.w.bottorff7735
@r.w.bottorff7735 Жыл бұрын
"History is written by the victor" I've responded to this sentiment by questioning -"...and who are the losers?" If they tell me poor, unfortunate Hitler was a loser then I remind them of the plight of the real losers, the Jews, the minorities, from whom we've received harrowing accounts of just how much they lost. Great video, Hitler was truly a drab, glib little egomaniac that appeared just in time to take credit for whatever he wanted.
@ninjoshday
@ninjoshday Жыл бұрын
Amen
@chase_saddy
@chase_saddy Жыл бұрын
The Soviets. Communists are the losers in history. They are also on the side of minorities more than the Global North.
@bretroberts950
@bretroberts950 Жыл бұрын
They're the real losers? Less than 2% of the population makes up 50% of U.S. billionaires. They are vastly overrepresented in government, media, finance, and academia. Basically every lever of power. Can we get some of that "loss" where we can ensure that all of our future generations get to absolutely dominate the entire global economy, have total control over the world's media and school curriculum, dominate all of Hollywood and entertainment then be able to pressure governments to pass laws to imprison anyone who so much as questions our total control over every aspect of everyone's lives?
@beganitdidnt6535
@beganitdidnt6535 Жыл бұрын
free shekels for you
@genericyoutubeaccount579
@genericyoutubeaccount579 Жыл бұрын
Rhodesia, Confederates, Nazis. The trifecta of "History is written by the Victors".
@spotlightvideos0022
@spotlightvideos0022 Жыл бұрын
The same thing happened after the U.S. Civil War with the Confederacy. People who admired them gained a lot of power and influence. Literally rewriting history in school books and now praising a "nuanced" approach to these people and their ideals. They have their parents groups, media networks and millionaires and academics who preach that these things "weren't so bad". From people like Walsh saying slavery and colonialnism was actually morally right to Owens and Peterson saying Hitler wasn't actually all that bad and actually had some good ideas. It's insane
@MaryamofShomal
@MaryamofShomal Жыл бұрын
It feels like we live in a real life version of The Twilight Zone
@DarkZerol
@DarkZerol Жыл бұрын
I remembered years ago, a former classmate of mine from the Southern part of the US was saying how they taught kids that the American Civil War justifiable for the Confederate because they were merely "defending themselves" from "Northern Aggression". 🤔
@nobodysXghost
@nobodysXghost Жыл бұрын
so if that happened as a reaction to after the civil war, what is this new nazi/authoritarian movement a reaction to? is it to white people becoming less of a majority-edging towards minority, which is also connected to queer and women's rights (as people not reproducing and/or raising their bio children means less white babies raised under white ideals?)? that would be my closest guess, but it's harder to pinpoint as they've intentionally made it a stratified thing divided into a million different identitarian groups so that no one can see it's a common enemy and common cause, to which it is more plausibly deniable that it is not just basic white fascism, but diverse and isolated negative reactions to people for 'completely separate and morally justifiable reasons?'
@Vict0r1984
@Vict0r1984 Жыл бұрын
Atun-Shei Films - the Kavernacle colab when? 😂 To be fair Atun-Shei is unfortunately a bit indoctrinated with liberal myths/biases against the Soviet Union himself, so this will probably never happen, but his vids debunking pro-confederate arguments are great! Definitely watch them if you're interested in the subject/want to pwn American reactionaries!
@liquidminds
@liquidminds Жыл бұрын
similar things have happened f.e. in east germany, where people started to glorify the soviet times, forgetting how bad it was. It's in the human nature to forget hardship and get lost in a fantasy of positives. One of the many reasons why human bias and how to combat it should be taught in every school....
@Blue74
@Blue74 Жыл бұрын
Being ironically antisemitic has become an "acceptable" joke across the internet. As a Jewish person, it hurts. The fascists are not going to stop at that, it's how they normalize these ideas.
@NEMOfishZ92
@NEMOfishZ92 Жыл бұрын
I have said antisemitic stuff without even knowing it was antisemitic before Had someone call me out and explain why what I was saying was antisemitic The bigots take advantage of idiots like me who don't know better and we accidentally push there ideas 😔
@marcello7781
@marcello7781 Жыл бұрын
What's worse, in times where edgy contrarianism seems to be the "cool kid club" presentation card on the internet, it's even considered something rebellious or somehow a "truth" others can't stand. Antisemitism is not rebellious, it's sheepish and it's one of the ideologies most disconnected from reality, where complex historical, political and economic dynamics of the world are replaced by "Jews are the root of everything wrong".
@IJustAnimateThatsTheJist
@IJustAnimateThatsTheJist Жыл бұрын
Yep, it first starts with the "edgy" jokes, then it evolves into spreading very harmful stereotypes and ideas via misinformation, and then finally they begin creating real plans to "deal" with this imaginary problem they've created through their verbal campaigns.
@timmysleftnutsack5075
@timmysleftnutsack5075 Жыл бұрын
as a Muslim, seeing how common and acceptable antisemitism is lately amongst young Muslim men, scares me. I never thought it was this bad.
@renlevy411
@renlevy411 Жыл бұрын
​@@timmysleftnutsack5075 oh as a former anti-semetic Muslim. There is no irony or sarcasm in their anti-semitism. They just hate Jews because of Israel.
@ericb.4313
@ericb.4313 Жыл бұрын
"You can't say he was stupid" Maybe we can't. However invading Eastern Europe during the mud season without a proper logistical network can. "You can't say he wasn't artisically talented" His landscapes were bland, and the art world had moved onto way more interesting things with German Expressionism.
@burgundian_system
@burgundian_system 6 ай бұрын
I hate expressionism,glory to realism art!
@inkypunk
@inkypunk Жыл бұрын
The thing that frustrates me is JP is almost right but for completely the wrong reason. Hitler should not be dismissed as just an evil monster. We should reflect on how all these otherwise normal people can escalate to genocide. I remember reading an admittedly brief biography of Hitler and the part that stuck with me was the description of him as a young man before he got into power. It was really familiar, I've encountered so many disillusioned white guys like that in the UK who'll just rant and blame [insert minority here] and get applauded for it in the same way he did. It's happening again even.
@Kavino
@Kavino Жыл бұрын
This. Hitler was just one of the many in post-war Austria and Germany that harboured a strong desire for vengeance and a desire to blame their woes on a traditionally maligned minority group, which was the easiest thing to do for them. He was exceptional in his ambition and rhetorical ability, not in his minset; his desire for violent conquest and genocide was only too common in Europe inside and out Germany at the time. And worryingly enough, as discussed by in this video, I see too much parallels in America. Fascism is popular in the USA and getting more so by the moment.
@Historia-Magistra-Vitae.
@Historia-Magistra-Vitae. Жыл бұрын
@@Kavino _"Fas cism is popular in the US A and getting more so by the moment."_ Wrong. Fas cism doesn't exist in the US A and it has been a dead ide ology since the W W2.
@kateemma22
@kateemma22 Жыл бұрын
Many, many years ago (I'm so old lol) when I was studying WW2 German history in university I travelled to Berlin to chat to a former member of the Hitler Youth. He repeated a lot that he still didn't know how he ended up with the mindset he had, he just went along with those around him, and while he never used that as an excuse it is very much a reason. Hitler was just like the rest of us - a normal, selfish person who wound up being a monster, and unfortunately any of us could end up the same way if we don't have self-awareness.
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 9 күн бұрын
💯
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 9 күн бұрын
​@@kateemma22💯👍
@JBOboe720
@JBOboe720 Жыл бұрын
You do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to Hitler"
@danf3201
@danf3201 Жыл бұрын
I mean, I could hand him his pistol in his bunker, but I don't think I'd be able to give him the nod if he said, "Danke."
@dylansyme9234
@dylansyme9234 Жыл бұрын
unless it's a Luger, a cyanide pill, or a ticket to Argentina
@anqareliouth2921
@anqareliouth2921 Жыл бұрын
Unless you mean it in a literal sense, meaning to punch him
@yarraidalg
@yarraidalg Жыл бұрын
​@@BradLad56didn't his paintings lack perspective and suck overall?
@Sam-m1y6d
@Sam-m1y6d Жыл бұрын
But, I dooooo
@sophiemyers1035
@sophiemyers1035 Жыл бұрын
Hitler's art was pedestrian at best and he blamed the Jews in Vienna for him not getting into art school. OF COURSE Jordan Peterson identifies with that man. There are parallels aplenty between these two dudes that I wouldn't had made if JP hadn't brought it up, but he did, and it's very unflattering for him how embarrassing.
@page8301
@page8301 Жыл бұрын
Hitler can be pretty much labled as an abject failure throughout his life. His earlier years he was living on his father's wealth who died early giving AH an early inheritance which he squandered rather quickly. He then went to Vienna and failed to get admission to its prestigious art academy because he was not a good enough artist so he became a post card painter and did some other menial jobs yet in his mind he was supposed to not do this kind of labour which he considered "beneath" him. Then came the war and he was an eager participant, it is quite disturbing to read that even when most of his company died and he had comrades being blown apart left and right to him he still considered it to be the best time of his life. Despite him being an eager beaver he never made it past the rank of private and it was a repeated taunt to call him "der österreichische Gefreite" which translates to "the Austrian private". For example Hindenburg called him that and had a low opinion of him as did Ludendorf despite both of them being conservative monarchists that abhorred the Weimar Republic just like AH did. AH had a lot of luck that he came to power, there was huge resistance against the Weimar Republic and few actually cared for democracy especially among the rich and powerful. Then came the economic crisis of 1929 and some other factors like the Treaty of Versailles which many Germans considered a huge shame, and stain, and in conjunction with the "Stab in the back " legend, which was nothing but a filthy lie, it is easy to see how AH was handed his reign on a silver platter, among some other factors like massive support by the industrialist elite for example. He just had to be dogged enough to persist until the time was right and the signs were on the horizon to anyone paying attention.
@lloroshastar6347
@lloroshastar6347 Жыл бұрын
That's Ben Shapiro's villain origin story too isn't it? His scripts were crap and Hollywood didn't want him so he used his inherited wealth to be a far right grifter instead.
@charisma-hornum-fries
@charisma-hornum-fries Жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of his paintings and drawi gs and he wasn't bad at the technical drawings he did for the local governments. Had he actually applied himself to that craft he would probably have been somewhere else entirely. He didn't and his victim complex did him in. -And narcissist believe that he was better than he was.
@ahmadhadi177
@ahmadhadi177 Жыл бұрын
@@page8301 The German Military Leadership negotiated with the Entente for an Armistice because of the success of the Allied Offensives and revolutionary tensions in Germany including revolt in it's navy and economic troubles and other factors,right?
@liquidminds
@liquidminds Жыл бұрын
historians have figured out that the professor that Hitler wanted to learn under was sick on the day of his application, with the replacement being a fan of portraits who did not like landscape drawings. They agree that if the professor would have been present that day, Hitler would have likely been accepted at the university. He might not have been a great painter, but he was good enough to be accepted at the school. Weird part of history where one could claim that the virus the professor got can be considered the deadliest virus in human history... Aside from the mental one the nazis had.
@asdsfgjaswdfgsdfa
@asdsfgjaswdfgsdfa Жыл бұрын
When I was in school a few years ago my history teacher played one of his speeches. I have a German parent and speak the language at a pretty basic level. The teacher talked about how he was a good and inspiring speaker. He said to me 'don't you think it's inspiring?' or something similar. It was very creepy. I didn't really know what to say because the speech was just incoherent shouting about the nation or something. Maybe I just don't get it, but I do not understand where people are coming from when they praise his speaking. The teacher has run for election for the conservatives since then, I wonder if there is a connection.
@floraposteschild4184
@floraposteschild4184 Жыл бұрын
I think there just might be.
@augustaseptemberova5664
@augustaseptemberova5664 Жыл бұрын
yea, for me it's similar, and I am an (almost) native speaker (not born in Ger, but went to school here etc.). From my pov, his speeches have the same energy and coherence as the type of drunk person with problems you might encounter in a city or on public transport, who's angrily shouting and cursing into the void about something. I could be wrong, but I think his (or his propagandists') actual skill/achievement, if you wanna call it that, was the ability to orchestrate settings where this kind of rambling would "inspire". Like, on one hand, establish a militia and denunciation networks, where sane people who'd speak out against the insanity of it all get silenced. Meanwhile, hold these huge meetings where you strategically plant ideologues in the audience to manipulate public perception of and reaction to what AH says (similar to how audiences are engineered for live comedy shows), and to get the masses to shout stuff collectively to make them feel strong as a group. I'm no psychologist, but I'm quite sure this kind of collective shouting does something to people psychologically. And there's ofc the whole thing about giving people a scape goat, a common "enemy" = hate object they can project their problems onto, and promises of "easy solutions".
@Onoesmahpie
@Onoesmahpie Жыл бұрын
Conservatism explicitly promotes and tries to create a vast swath of socioeconomic circumstances that hitler grew up with / perpetuated, and which were necessary to the development of nazi germany, only minus the explicit mentions of the logical conclusion of all out genocide within their white supremist christian nationalist anti-science theocracy hell.
@LarryLopez91
@LarryLopez91 Жыл бұрын
I think it's safe to assume so
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 9 күн бұрын
​@@augustaseptemberova5664Ganz genau!
@ArmaBiologica35
@ArmaBiologica35 Жыл бұрын
"You can't say Hitler was without artistic talent." You know what? I agree... The painting I like the most from him is the one he made in the bunker's wall with his brains.
@johndread1724
@johndread1724 Жыл бұрын
Made a real statement with that one.
@Andulsi
@Andulsi Жыл бұрын
Instant abstract expressionism
@basilofgoodwishes4138
@basilofgoodwishes4138 Жыл бұрын
It was bloody good.
@nsbd90now
@nsbd90now Жыл бұрын
That one made a real splash in the art world.
@tubian323
@tubian323 Жыл бұрын
He was based on that one day.
@nat7535
@nat7535 Жыл бұрын
Truly appreciate this. As a black woman from the global south it is easy to see much of this rhetoric from our politicians who don't vocally align with Hitler but use many of the same tactics. Keep up the good work
@theaccountant5846
@theaccountant5846 3 ай бұрын
The scariest thing is I went to the speech to check the comments, and there were comments saying "do a joe biden speech next" getting thousands of likes. It's obvious there's tons of trump supporters there watching the speech and walking right into fascism, thinking it's the other side that's similar to Hitler when it's really them.
@AkiVainio
@AkiVainio Жыл бұрын
We can't forget that he actually tried to burn down his "own people" when they had failed him (by losing an unwinnable war).
@Dragonspeak30
@Dragonspeak30 Жыл бұрын
Yes, killing yourself so you can't be forced to take responsibility for the atrocities you've contributed to is totally not something a coward would do /s
@connor5669
@connor5669 Жыл бұрын
This is a HUGE problem on youtube shorts. Any video that mentions Hitler is flooded with coded comments supporting him
@hsjshdhsjshsh958
@hsjshdhsjshsh958 6 ай бұрын
N@zi dog whistles include the following: "109" , "88" , "(((them)))" , "the tribe", "👃", also phrases like "Gradually I began to hate them" and "they cry as they strike you", et cetera
@DrAnarchy69
@DrAnarchy69 Жыл бұрын
Anti Jewish bigotry and Anti Communism truly do go hand in hand
@kobemop
@kobemop Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@lordrefrigeratorintercoole288
@lordrefrigeratorintercoole288 Жыл бұрын
Nazism and comunism are equally bad. both have no place in our modern society. Democracy and socialism on the other hand.
@kieranbyrne1593
@kieranbyrne1593 Жыл бұрын
Yeah in fact what a great relationship Communists have with the Jews.
@cmd7930
@cmd7930 Жыл бұрын
I wonder why Maybe because many communist leaders in Weimar Germany were Jewish. Same in Russia where communists actually won. Books have been written about this by Russians. Imagine you migrate to a country and then want to overthrow the country with communist regime and then act suprised that the natives will hate you Always the same victim mentality with small hats
@cannibalgrape9863
@cannibalgrape9863 Жыл бұрын
Yep. "Cultural Marxism" is just the antisemitic trope of Cultural Bolshevikism repackaged.
@_emory
@_emory Жыл бұрын
“One thing nobody could ever, ever accuse Hitler of is neglecting his people” 😭😭😭I’m f*cking dead, just like Hitler’s Jewish citizens
@ninjoshday
@ninjoshday Жыл бұрын
Big oof there
@meemurthelemur4811
@meemurthelemur4811 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention his scorched earth decision at the end of the war and saying that the German people deserved to be destroyed because they disappointed him by losing.
@delwardian
@delwardian Жыл бұрын
As someone from India I can attest for the image rehabilitation Hitler has gone through. In India Hitler was used as a synonym for being strict or tough.
@BenjaminGlatt
@BenjaminGlatt Жыл бұрын
I mean, we saw that over here in the 90s and 2000s, just with "Nazi". Think Seinfeld's Soup Nazi or calling feminists "feminazis".
@Demonetization_Symbol
@Demonetization_Symbol Жыл бұрын
Being strict or tough to others _is_ bad, but not as bad as Hitler!
@PinkPanda-Zx
@PinkPanda-Zx Жыл бұрын
Yes, strict school teachers when I was a kid were called "Hitler" by the students. I have to mention though I don't think Hitler needed any rehabilitation here. It seems like people never learnt about the horrors of fascism in the first place. Otherwise we wouldn't be doing a salute that looks so similar to the nazi one for assembly.. lol
@jeseenthaannejoji9582
@jeseenthaannejoji9582 Жыл бұрын
my recent visits to the online communities on sites like reddit or even the darker side of instagram shows them genuinely praising hitler/any fascist leader; when they come under scruntity, they play it off as being 'ironic' or 'making edgy jokes'. Such opinions existed decades ago but now, the internet is like a breeding ground for these ideas esp with teenagers (with undeveloped frontal lobes) being the largest affected demographics. It's just sad to see, kids who are supposed to enjoy life get stuck in this vicious cycle of hate
@jeseenthaannejoji9582
@jeseenthaannejoji9582 Жыл бұрын
indian subreddits and indian ig pages* should've added that. I meant my comment in the context of India
@molybdomancer195
@molybdomancer195 Жыл бұрын
I’m old enough that my parents were teenagers in WW2 so I often feel like I lived through it myself from all the stories they told me and seeing how it affected them. The fact that people have forgotten it so soon is shocking
@kingbugs3558
@kingbugs3558 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, there's so few people living with firsthand accounts of those times. Makes it easier for people spreading misinformation
@BenjaminGlatt
@BenjaminGlatt Жыл бұрын
Really? We forgot about polio even quicker.
@nektariosorfanoudakis2270
@nektariosorfanoudakis2270 Жыл бұрын
My parents are/were slightly older than you, with tons of horror stories concerning what their own parents and their families went through, and around early to mid 2000s they forgot everything, and thought Fascists are "patriots" and "rebellious", or "spitting facts", even the fanatical Social Democrat parent; goldfish memory indeed, I ended up more antifascist than them because I never forgot these old stories, I knew about the Holocaust which they didn't, I've read Axis occupation history from a left-wing perspective which they haven't, and because I hate Hitler's idea that Science is "degenerate" and his "ideal" human is like a, well, trained semi-wild animal basically that can't think for itself, there is a certain excerpt in "Mein Kampf" that we had learnt in school which was eye-opening. Actually, the various Fascist governments we had in Greece, especially the military Junta 1967-1974 they grew up with, messed with their brains by not teaching them ANYTHING of value, but they had to become middle-aged and resentful for this phenomenon to manifest itself. Also, curiously, without post-Civil War Centrist anti-communist theories, like the "two extremes" theory promoted by the EU even nowadays, social-democrat anti-communist theories (the communists are secretly the spies of the Right, Greece-only conspiracy theory by PASOK), and even "ultra-left" anti-communism, like Maoism etc. they'd never switch towards Fascism. They didn't even have the decency to have a "Centrist", "Center-Right" or "Right" phase, nope, from slightly "Red" Center-Left, they just instantly teleported to the Far-Right like in friggin Dragonball Z.
@BlisaBLisa
@BlisaBLisa Жыл бұрын
our education (in america) about this is so shit. most states dont even legally require public schools to teach about the holocaust. a lot of people esp younger people here are very ignorant about it because they just werent taught it in school very well. its sad and also easily fixable but teaching this kind of stuff is dressed up as "teaching critical race theory" so trying to get any kind of improvement in history education in schools is an uphill battle.
@chase_saddy
@chase_saddy Жыл бұрын
@@nektariosorfanoudakis2270 I couldn’t understand your last paragraph. What were you saying about Maoism etc? Maoism is part of Communism.
@queenbean7071
@queenbean7071 Жыл бұрын
Uk trans girl, I think alot of this stuff preys on young men/teens who like to act like they "don't care" about stuff. When I was still pretending to be a guy me and my friends thought the most dude thing to do was to act like nothing bothers you, which we eventually started making edgy jokes etc which we didn't actually believe but thought being edgy made us cool. When j came to terms with myself being trans I started realising that you know, making jokes about or even claiming to support *the worst evils of humanity* isn't as funny as I thought it was. I've tried my hardest to rectify how I acted and me being trans meant I really had no way to hide from it. As in the trans community its much more upfront with understanding what that stuff does and hoe it actually affects people. My friends at the time never had the same, they grew up only surrounding themselves with content that made those edgy jokes. Then it started becoming plausible to them. I've not been friends with the ones that kept going with that stuff and from what I've heard some of them are even now litteral nazis, with the joke being long forgotten. I'm not sure if this will help anyone, but if there's anything I want to share it's this: The jokes you make will influence you. If something is repeated enough, even if you originally thought it was a joke, it will and it can, no matter how much you think it conflicts with who you are. Don't radicalised yourself.
@lunaticberserker5869
@lunaticberserker5869 Жыл бұрын
You're beating yourself for jokes when you were a edgy teen. We all made jokes like that and thought it was funny. As for "The jokes you make will influence you" can be true, it's like a lie, you tell that lie to a lot of people, and suddenly, you start to believe in it.
@lucas096br4
@lucas096br4 9 ай бұрын
You brainwashed yourself except for the trans part Jokes are fine, edgy jokes are fine too. Do not beat yourself over it, plus you were a teen, you are not gonna be the second coming of christ in this age in levels of innocence or intelectual, intelligence or whatever for guaranteed, of course you gonna say some messed up stuff
@Emperor.Penguin.
@Emperor.Penguin. Жыл бұрын
Nazi videos are more popular than ever here. Videos with names like "Erika but you're a german soldier on the Eastern Front" Or any video with that "Little Dark Age" song have comment sections full of racists and outright Nazis
@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943
@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943 Жыл бұрын
I no like german simps
@yaboye3791
@yaboye3791 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's fucking annoying a good song has been taken as a symbol of sexless 20 y/o's
@InspiriumESOO
@InspiriumESOO Жыл бұрын
@@yaboye3791 the right can't meme, the right can't make art, the right can't create anything new. They just take from others like parasites. Conservative think is the opposite of creativity. No wonder they not only steal from others but completely misunderstand the meaning of art and fail to see the irony. Little Dark Age is a left leaning song, yet they don't get it at all. Their ideology clouds and stunts their thinking completely.
@wazzzup2579
@wazzzup2579 Жыл бұрын
Good god I remember the Little Dark Age craze from 2021 and seeing the constant nazi and fascist cocksucking turned me off from my obsession with the song.😢
@davidnissim589
@davidnissim589 Жыл бұрын
@@yaboye3791 and the song is clearly a left-wing protest song if you even pay the slightest bit of attention to the lyrics
@janetwalenta641
@janetwalenta641 Жыл бұрын
Ten years ago Ricky Gervais had a joke that began, "Say what you will about Hitler", and that was the whole joke. It used to be a joke, anyway.
@CalopsitaVanderbilt1911
@CalopsitaVanderbilt1911 Жыл бұрын
I’m a German speaking person, and i can’t endure half a minute of Hitler screaming.
@cmd7930
@cmd7930 Жыл бұрын
Because you are likely slavic untermensch
@lloroshastar6347
@lloroshastar6347 Жыл бұрын
@@cmd7930 in another comment you are getting angry at people for having double standards and not criticising Communist regimes, in this comment you are repeating Nazi dogma. So which is it, do you think authoritarian regimes are bad? Or are you fine with Nazism?
@cmd7930
@cmd7930 Жыл бұрын
@@lloroshastar6347 I pick Nazism over communism any day
@lloroshastar6347
@lloroshastar6347 Жыл бұрын
@@cmd7930 and I pick equality and freedom over oppressive nightmarish authoritarian regimes any day. Nazism is the enemy and always will be
@ninjoshday
@ninjoshday Жыл бұрын
​@@cmd7930 And why is that?
@marcello7781
@marcello7781 Жыл бұрын
"History is written by the victor" Lost Cause myth in Dixieland: "Allow me to introduce myself"
@artyom5659
@artyom5659 Жыл бұрын
Literally same thing happened in the west post-WW2
@nsbd90now
@nsbd90now Жыл бұрын
“People tend to get all misty-eyed about Lincoln's statement, "With malice toward none, and charity for all." That was his second inaugural address in March of 1865. What were the results? A couple of weeks later, what he got out of it was a bullet in the head. What Blacks got out of it was Jim Crow. What Confederates got was pardons, amnesties, dropped charges and the ability to rewrite history. The rest of us were saddled with them...” --David Masciotra
@gregmark1688
@gregmark1688 Жыл бұрын
These days, it's more like "History is written by the most hateful."
@himpim642
@himpim642 5 ай бұрын
@@artyom5659 nah.west was one dictatign history.it took from germans bias what they wanted.
@valentinoesposito3614
@valentinoesposito3614 27 күн бұрын
Dananananannanana
@baptizednblood6813
@baptizednblood6813 Жыл бұрын
You can see this for Franco also on Spanish civil war vids. It’s appalling to say the least to see people praising genocidal and hateful regimes
@molybdomancer195
@molybdomancer195 Жыл бұрын
There’s person online who included performing for Franco in her bio on her roll of honour entry for British roller figure skating as if it was a thing to be proud of
@nelitogorostiza16
@nelitogorostiza16 Жыл бұрын
Same with Porfirio Díaz, he wasn't a fash, but the bastard was a brutal dictator nonetheless
@drtg101we7
@drtg101we7 Жыл бұрын
Honestly Hitler is on another level than Franco. I would say that Franco was a pretty big POS, but Hitler was a straight up monster.
@lloroshastar6347
@lloroshastar6347 Жыл бұрын
​@@drtg101we7 they're all monsters, let's not move the line in the sand, someone who murders one person deliberately is a monster, politicians who actively kill people intentionally unless entirely through defense of their nation are all monsters.
@marcello7781
@marcello7781 Жыл бұрын
​@@nelitogorostiza16 I've seen people online claiming Mexico would have been a much better place had it been ruled by emperor Maximilian rather than Benito Juarez. Some conservatives would have rather be governed by foreign kings than have a "liberal" president as head of state.
@LakeofCrystalclan
@LakeofCrystalclan Жыл бұрын
Aside from the comments, the thing you mentioned at the beginning scares me: The fact that there are people parroting vile misinformation, calling themselves “NatCons,” and whatnot is giving me major red flags, and tells me that the Nazis are trying to make a comeback. As a part of one of the groups they’re targeting, I’m terrified for my life at this point. In case the worst does come, does anyone know any tips I can employ and share to survive a Holocaust-like event?
@angelikaskoroszyn8495
@angelikaskoroszyn8495 Жыл бұрын
Tbf how many groups they don't target? Many of those idiots praising Hotler would be a part of the Untermensch. They would be "cleansed" sooner or later because f*sist regime need an "enemy" Trans people, homosexuals, immigrants, anyone vaguelly left-leaning, Jewish people, the disabled. Today the list of undesirables is relatively short but it will grow with time
@RSAgility
@RSAgility Жыл бұрын
Start carrying. These fools think we don't like guns... 😂😂😂 No, we like good people with guns, not them. Which is why they fear gun control... They're automatically disqualified, they're bad people which is why they want guns "for protection" a dogwhistle I want a gun because it's fun to shoot. but not people. NO ONE should have that power over another, but sadly, in reality, they do, and they misuse that power, and the next best thing is to take away their power, and they should be fine with that, because the civil war, WW1-2, probably 3, should've taught these fools that they'll be easily stopped, and any community they hate, will flourish happily in a future where homophobic racist and religious fools don't exist. It'd be great.
@code8825
@code8825 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don’t mean to freak you out more, but I think you’re right to be worried. Personally I live in British Columbia, Canada, which has several Nazi groups with a strong foothold here, the Order of Nine Angles being my personal biggest concern, as well as a far-right presence in other groups which may not be outright Nazis, but certainly have some neo-nazi members and carry out a far right agenda. I would consider the Soldiers of Odin and the Proud Boys to be examples of that sort of group. Additionally, climate change is real, it is happening, and already causing large amounts of climate refugees. How do rich, first world countries respond to impoverished refugees? The liberals respond by taking advantage of them, using these struggling people for cheap labour, and the conservatives do that plus a whole bunch of racist and xenophobic rhetoric. We have seen splits in the right wing in North America specifically with the “People’s Party of Canada”, a far-right split from the generally more centre-right Conservative Party of Canada, and in some of the more rabid of the Trump base, especially with some of the issues around Qanon. All of this is to say that I think you’re right, and we are heading to potential fascism in North America specifically, and probably other places (especially Western Europe), but as a Canadian I’ll speak to what I know. Personally I think the fall to further fascism will happen as a result of issues around climate change, economic insecurity, and a large amount of climate refugees. I wont pretend to know how to survive a “holocaust-like event” as you put it, but something is absolutely going to happen, probably within the next 50 or so years, and I do think being prepared in some sort of way is vital. Personally, I am trying to connect with people I know who have similar political views and form of a bit of an organization, try to get active in the community, as whenever things do happen, I don’t want to be alone. I personally hope that I’ll be able to form some sort of organization that can both forward the cause of socialism and provide self-defence against the fascism that you’re talking about. Sadly though, I can’t offer any survival tips, the most I can hope for personally is that I will die a partisan, and if things really do get that bad, I will be as brave as I hope I would be and help others. I suppose that is really the only advice I could think of, is make connections with people and be prepared, you’ll be able to do more even with some random friend than some random KZbin comment could. And just have some sort of plan or idea of what your goal is and what you want to do. Self-preservation is as good a goal as any, I’m personally looking into hunting to get more familiar with firearms and general hunting/outdoorsman skills, but having a familiarity with firearms is probably not important at all compared to having a safe location to go/people to support you if you’re looking to preserve your life instead of go out like Johanna Schaft. Anyways, apologies for such a long and rambling comment, hope my intention came across, much love and support, stay safe.
@hughcaldwell1034
@hughcaldwell1034 Жыл бұрын
I think the specifics depend on where you live. . In general, though, I'd say that the most important thing is building networks. People survived the Holocaust either because they got out in time, or someone was willing to take them in and hide them. So, finding/establishing both local and international networks is vital. Building solidarity within your local community also makes it more resistant to this kind of ideology. It's harder to dehumanise Jewish, queer, disabled or other marginalised people if everyone on the street knows that perfectly lovely gay couple down the road. Unfortunately, so many people don't know the first thing about their neighbours nowadays, and community solidarity has suffered. I'd also encourage self-defence. There are groups that give proper training in armed and unarmed combat, and more and more of them are doing so with protection of minorities against hate crimes as an explicit goal. Lastly, I'd just like to say that it's not too late. Put up posters, counter-protest, join anti-fascist action groups and find out what you can do for them. Make it clear to your town, city and country that we aren't going to stand for another reich. We aren't letting this sh*t happen again. Good luck, and stay safe.
@page8301
@page8301 Жыл бұрын
If that scares you consider the fact that the rhetoric is not even new. As a German who grew up in the 80s and 90s, I heard this kind of "positive" revisionism about AH more than once 30-35 years ago already even in my own family sadly.
@mikedrop4421
@mikedrop4421 Жыл бұрын
You're right. I went and found a couple vids and the comments were horrifying. People litterally said "he was misunderstood" or "to bad people focus on the bad stuff so much" absolutely wild stuff man
@ahouyearno
@ahouyearno Жыл бұрын
Yeah. The bad stuff is so bad that looking at anything else but the bad stuff is already an admission of politics.
@ninjoshday
@ninjoshday Жыл бұрын
He was misunderstood... by the people making those comments
@yoholup19
@yoholup19 Жыл бұрын
I feel like if you present them Oskar dirlewanger they would try to say "why are we looking at the bad side?!" Even though Oskar is known for being a mass murderer of civilians both children and adults and a pedophile at that
@burgundian_system
@burgundian_system 6 ай бұрын
​@@yoholup19hoi4 war crime moment
@CyFed_Republic_of_Kaltovar
@CyFed_Republic_of_Kaltovar Жыл бұрын
As a Jewish/German guy, it's a shame they crack down on these speeches as they're part of history. If they're gonna remove something, why not just remove the comment section for those videos, since that's the problem? Reading Mein Kampf did not convince me of the merits of Nazi ideology. We shouldn't go down the road of trying to cover up stupid or evil ideas. We should learn about them and remember them exactly as they were, and what they lead to, so we don't turn them into cartoon versions of themselves and forget.
@darkshadowrule2952
@darkshadowrule2952 Жыл бұрын
I would note, history out in the wild on its own without the context or respect it deserves can be just as damaging as it is informative. For instance, if you just looked at a video of nazis marching, you might think wow, they look so put together and their uniforms are so sharp, they must have had a very disciplined military, but within an educational context you learn about just how heavily the nazis focused on outward appearance as a means of manipulating the population by giving them a false impression of legitimacy. So there's a sort of fuzzy line we have to dance on of keeping these records out there while also reducing the risk of people falling for the progandistic aspects
@Kurrentschrift
@Kurrentschrift Жыл бұрын
i find the ideas that as an adult i need to be protected from historical documents, because i am to stupid not to fall for propaganda without supervision, quite insulting.
@Thefire591
@Thefire591 Жыл бұрын
@@Kurrentschrift do you think nazis should be given a platform like everyone else? Forget about yourself as an indivdual, saying you would not become radicalize is literally irrelevant. Empirical evidence from sociology and history shows that human beings are easily manipulated.
@Kurrentschrift
@Kurrentschrift Жыл бұрын
@@Thefire591 so what, it is true that propaganda works, but i don’t like the idea of someone deciding what is save for me to watch and what isn’t. People who can censor obviously can shape the perception, it’s a dangerous slope i would rather avoid.
@Thefire591
@Thefire591 Жыл бұрын
@@Kurrentschrift there is a lot of stuff I don't like, but that's not how I evaluate important descisions. I weigh in the pros and the cons, and see what consequences are worse. You seem like a person who believes in duty-ethics. Like you have decided cencorship is inheirently wrong. I just think that tackling societal issue based on this sort of view is insanely flawed.
@CoreyB88
@CoreyB88 Жыл бұрын
It's true that you can't say Hitler wasn't charismatic, but charisma in and of itself isn't necessarily a positive attribute. Just like strong hands; good on a carpenter, bad on a strangler. Hitler used his charisma for evil ends, and that's all that really matters at the end of the day.
@223Drone
@223Drone Жыл бұрын
Pro-Hitler videos are basically the WW2 version of the "Lost cause of the South".
@cloudynguyen6527
@cloudynguyen6527 Жыл бұрын
As a non-American, I'm very interested in about the myth of the South lost cause from the US. Most common thing I heard about it is the Civil war is about state's right and less about slavery. What is your opinion about this.?
@paranoiaproductions1221
@paranoiaproductions1221 Жыл бұрын
​@@cloudynguyen6527 it's about states' rights to slavery
@223Drone
@223Drone Жыл бұрын
@@cloudynguyen6527 I'm not an American but even non-Americans know that the "Lost cause" was created to make the Confederacy more sympathetic. The "Lost cause" intentionally omits the well documented fact that the Confederacy was explicitly founded to uphold slavery.
@darkshadowrule2952
@darkshadowrule2952 Жыл бұрын
@@cloudynguyen6527 it's absolutely wild, because the whole argument falls apart the moment you say "states rights to what?" Growing up in the Midwest with a mom raised in the south, I remember going into high school one day and repeating the States rights thing because she'd said it learning it down there, and that question tore it all down, because you can't point to much of anything other than slavery without just making vague gestures that can be traced back to slavery with barely any effort. The states wanted to self govern! So they could keep owning people. Property rights! The property were humans. Territorial expansion rights towards the west! They wanted the right to make slavery legal in every new territory, whereas the union wanted to freeze its expansion and let it slowly fade away, the south wanted to make slavery an economic powerhouse again. Even the argument that many confederate soldiers were fighting for the loyalty to their states is BS, HUGE numbers of southerners from confederate states joined the union army because they knew what was right
@nathanielchieffallo4273
@nathanielchieffallo4273 Жыл бұрын
​@@cloudynguyen6527 that's about right, most of these people also claim that it was ONLY about states rights, which completely contradicts the rhetoric of the south at the time. For years before and after the war, they defended the legal enslavement of people for their labor as a benevolent, paternalistic institution with social and economic benefits, an important part of civilization, and a divine institution similar or superior to the labor in the North. They used Christianity to defend it's use and even started utilizing propaganda to portray slaves as happy even after the war. The daughters of the confederacy (rich southern white woman who lost their "property" and went on a whining campaign) had a "Faithful Slave Memorial Committee" where they attempted and succeeded to erect memorials to these fantastical depictions of slaves that wanted to continue to be slaves. It is undoubtedly one of the main reasons for the war and anyone saying otherwise is a fool or a weirdo. In short, the lost cause myth was created as a response to their crushing defeat and destruction of their morale. They made up fantasies about the moral superiority of their "way of life" and idolize rose-tinted views of the leaders of the south. Even depicting random southern archetypes out and glorifying them: the chivalric planter; the magnolia-scented southern belle; the good, gray Confederate veteran, once a knight of the field and saddle; and obliging old Uncle Remus. All these, while enveloped in a golden haze, became very real to the people of the South, who found the symbols useful in the reconstituting of their shattered civilization. They perpetuated the ideals of the Old South and brought a sense of comfort to the New. In other words, the lost cause myth is just cope; but on a cultural scale.
@PresidentOfTheUSA
@PresidentOfTheUSA Жыл бұрын
"History is written by the victors" is an incredible unfitting statement for WW2 and Hitler.
@tasse0599
@tasse0599 Жыл бұрын
the US kind of promoted an anti-communist sentiment in the FRG and used people like Barbie or Eichmann to turn the country into a bastion against socialism
@Lorenz1973
@Lorenz1973 Жыл бұрын
The Nazi Revisionism pushed especially by Americans is truly insane, but it just has gotten so much worse over recent years. Thanks 🙏 for doing videos about the topic, confronting common myth so directly and clearly… Please keep up the great 👍 work!
@franjkav
@franjkav Жыл бұрын
It seems pretty bad in Croatia too
@MaryamofShomal
@MaryamofShomal Жыл бұрын
Right??! FFS WE WON WORLD WAR II! WE BEAT THOSE STINKIN NAZIS!!! The Greatest Generation are looking down on us from Heaven in utter disgust.
@Lorenz1973
@Lorenz1973 Жыл бұрын
@@franjkav Makes possible sense considering the Croatian ultra- nationalists who collaborated with the Nazis… bit of whitewashing of their own history possibly… just a theory… but it is sadly spreading…
@Demonetization_Symbol
@Demonetization_Symbol Жыл бұрын
It makes me wish I wasn't American.
@Chuck_EL
@Chuck_EL Жыл бұрын
lets be honest america has constantly been pushing nazism in every media form for decades i mean its not even subtle even years ago.....on the surface we know more about hitler than any other "dictator" ......its not even that hes evil its a romaticized version of him any non white dictator maybe besides mao or pol pot are shown as pure evil.... then you factor in how much the media tries to do all these mental gymnastics to deny white supremacy ties to mass shooting... and the media cant undersrand why non white people believe this country is ran by white supremacists?
@jessa7778
@jessa7778 Жыл бұрын
As an Ashkenazi Jew, this turns my heart cold. Truly terrifying.
@meatman585
@meatman585 Жыл бұрын
​@DONT_read_my_about...damn man your so tough
@julzkrautkieper3334
@julzkrautkieper3334 Жыл бұрын
Oy vey
@jessa7778
@jessa7778 Жыл бұрын
@@julzkrautkieper3334 Indeed
@J4themperor
@J4themperor Жыл бұрын
We know you are scared, good
@Shin_Akumi
@Shin_Akumi Жыл бұрын
From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. Stop apartheid in Israel, the new Nazism called Zionism.
@Dragonblaster1
@Dragonblaster1 Жыл бұрын
I have to admit that Hitler has one good quality: he's dead.
@organicstorm
@organicstorm Жыл бұрын
There are good reasons for why Hitler's speeches and writing is illegal to distribute and watch/read for the general public in Germany - without guidance and fact checking, nazi rhetoric sounds persuasive or even convicing to many (not all, oviously!) .. you apparently can't expect current people to just be more resilient to those ideas than past generations. As someone born in East Germany, where neonazi ideology is somewhat popular (in disguise, very few people openly admit to agreeing with literal Hitler, here) i am both disgusted with the open "fandom" (?) surrounding actual fascists and nazis - at the same time it is somewhat .. i don't know how to phrase it .. maybe relief-resignation? That my relatives, ancestors, .. my countrymen weren't the only ones that could and still can be influenced by those monsters. Even with hindsight, people fall for the same stupid and/or evil ideas and want to believe the same lies, over and over and over again. We need to continue fighting against those ideas all around the world!
@jeffersonclippership2588
@jeffersonclippership2588 Жыл бұрын
Guess the DDR didn't go far enough. It definitely looks like the Communists were right, liberal democracy inevitable degrades into fascism.
@Kurrentschrift
@Kurrentschrift Жыл бұрын
It’s absolutely not illegal to read or watch Nazi works, what makes you think is is?
@PresidentOfTheUSA
@PresidentOfTheUSA Жыл бұрын
You can read 'Mein Kampf' for free without any problem as a German.
@Captaiesqueleto
@Captaiesqueleto Жыл бұрын
Are you saying the bad mustache man has reasons why he did the things he did?
@TheElf_Online
@TheElf_Online Жыл бұрын
To quote Garfield, “You are not immune to propaganda.” Propaganda is an incredibly powerful tool, and unfortunately N*zi Germany is one of the best examples of how effective it can be. 😐
@ristekostadinov2820
@ristekostadinov2820 Жыл бұрын
The same talking points were used by the current Italian PM about Mussolini, about being Italy 1st and how he made Italy great. Which is funny because Italy managed to be useless 2 world wars in a row, Germany completely carried them out.
@PxThucydides
@PxThucydides Жыл бұрын
He made the trains run on time! Then he gathered up all the trains, set them on fire, and ran them off a cliff.
@jeffersonclippership2588
@jeffersonclippership2588 Жыл бұрын
Imagine idolizing a guy who controlled one of the world's largest economies and still couldn't even conquer Albania
@azazel166
@azazel166 Жыл бұрын
Greek here, Mussolini couldn't even conquer my country.
@nektariosorfanoudakis2270
@nektariosorfanoudakis2270 Жыл бұрын
@@azazel166 He could with Hitler's help, but then they couldn't keep it due to massive resistance in Cities and the Countryside, only extensive collaboration prevented the 3 Quisling governments from collapsing.
@tripledigit4835
@tripledigit4835 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@jeffersonclippership2588 no different in ridiculousness as how many idolise Russia and they can’t even conquer Ukraine. Seems like this idolisation of fascism, including failure won’t cease in the short term
@klubberzvonhatzenbuhl563
@klubberzvonhatzenbuhl563 Жыл бұрын
Imagine getting copyright striked over Hitler speech translations.
@TheKastellan
@TheKastellan 7 ай бұрын
Am I dumb or no one said they were copyright stook? Only that some countries banned it...because yknow....it is illegal in Germany?
@Demonetization_Symbol
@Demonetization_Symbol Жыл бұрын
And people wonder why I'm ashamed to be American.
@derekpayneszubliminals7723
@derekpayneszubliminals7723 Жыл бұрын
Hey, look at the bright side. At least you’re one of the smart ones.
@koopanique
@koopanique Жыл бұрын
I am not American but although the US undeniably has issues there are still more people who are not biggoted racists, so don't lose heart
@jeffersonclippership2588
@jeffersonclippership2588 Жыл бұрын
No one who is a decent human being would wonder about that
@jeffersonclippership2588
@jeffersonclippership2588 Жыл бұрын
​@@koopanique Sorry, but you're wrong. There are maybe 10% of us who actively oppose racism and another 40% are outright racists. The other 50% claim to hate racism but are either totally apathetic or scared of making any significant social change so they side with the racists by default.
@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis
@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis Жыл бұрын
@@jeffersonclippership2588 The protests over George Floyd prove the opposite. They are 10 percent, they are just highly organized and louder. We are the 40 percent and the problem is the half the country that would rather avoid conflict and pretend republicans are good faith actors.
@koopanique
@koopanique Жыл бұрын
""History is NOT written by the victor"" So glad there are people realizing this, especially about WW2. The Germans didn't have the best tanks, they didn't have the best tactics, they sure didn't have the best strategies, their soldiers were not superior somehow, and the Allies were actually undeniably better at war than the fascists
@jeffersonclippership2588
@jeffersonclippership2588 Жыл бұрын
Wars are won by logistics but that's not as interesting to the average idiot as big battles fought by guys in cool uniforms
@InspiriumESOO
@InspiriumESOO Жыл бұрын
Germans army was 80% horse drawn. They DEmotorised their military very quickly while other militaries motorised more and more as the war went on. Extremely embarrassing and no Wehraboo wants to hear that.
@cmd7930
@cmd7930 Жыл бұрын
Germans were better at almost everything except their country was too small and didnt have the population and resources it needed. 1 on 1 germany wouldve defeaten everybody
@miskatonic_alumni
@miskatonic_alumni Жыл бұрын
​@@cmd7930 Germans sucked so hard that they got crushed by the same Slavs that they deemed inferior. U mad?
@PresidentOfTheUSA
@PresidentOfTheUSA Жыл бұрын
​@@cmd7930 wtf
@lauraliura
@lauraliura Жыл бұрын
It's so dumb that people say the speeches are hidden from the public. I'm from Germany and analysing political speeches is a core part of the History, German & English curriculum of upperclassmen. We quite literally read Hitler and Goebbels speeches in my History and German classes, analysed them and discussed how the rhetoric and propaganda works. (English class had us analyse speeches by Lincoln, Jefferson, MLK, Obama and Trump by the way.)
@TheHouseAlwaysWins20
@TheHouseAlwaysWins20 Жыл бұрын
From what i've seen most of the Pro Nazi sentiment online is from Americans not Germans
@Bd-ng1zv
@Bd-ng1zv 2 ай бұрын
Why are they often shadowbanned and black listed by KZbin then, and the subtitles rarely seem to be available? Of course they’re hidden from easy acces by the public. Oaf.
@joshuawarrington9417
@joshuawarrington9417 Ай бұрын
@Bd-ng1zv youtube has trigger-happy shadow an policy ig. if you really want to see them, maybe go outside of youtube? put more than 12 seconds into it maybe? i'd recommend starting with Internet Archive or wikipedia
@joshuawarrington9417
@joshuawarrington9417 Ай бұрын
*shadowban
@Pemberley78
@Pemberley78 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for addressing this topic in your video. I was born in Germany shortly after the end of the war. What that war did to my family and country definitely gave me my personal left leaning ideology. I carry so much guilt and shame for the horrors that ‘H**le*’ unleashed on the world… well it’s difficult to even explain. There is so much I could say but - vielen dank für alles das Du hier gesagt hast. Sorry for my poor written German though - came to Canada as a young child so English is easier. Furthermore I won’t even go into the drivel from JP. 😔😡🇨🇦🇩🇪
@stephendaley266
@stephendaley266 Жыл бұрын
It's time for everyone to understand that there is no difference between Conservatism and Fascism.
@kobemop
@kobemop Жыл бұрын
The early Nazi movement was kind of degenerate tbh.
@AceFromGorillaz
@AceFromGorillaz Жыл бұрын
​@@kobemop one thing we know about conservatives is that they don't do what they preach, it's all projection
@jeffersonclippership2588
@jeffersonclippership2588 Жыл бұрын
Conservatism is when fascists feel totally in charge. Fascism is when conservatives feel their grip on power is threatened.
@falconeshield
@falconeshield Жыл бұрын
What were the og Conservatives? French royalists in 1789. There I just taught you that conservatism has been outdated since.
@nsbd90now
@nsbd90now Жыл бұрын
@@kobemop Daily Kos has a an extensive list of hundreds of Republicans and their degenerate criminal behaviors. Something like 31 pages now.
@penguinpingu3807
@penguinpingu3807 Жыл бұрын
"I'm African and I agree with him and his party to the fullest." -Least Fascist White South African
@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis
@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis Жыл бұрын
That's elon's burner account.
@Macrochenia
@Macrochenia Жыл бұрын
I think Linkara at Atop the Fourth Wall put it well when he summed up the Secret Empire event in Marvel Comics: "[The story] kind of bought into the greatest lie that fascists ever told: that it is strong. That it is orderly. That it is might and power and deference to might and power. For the longest time, the popular belief about Nazi Germany was that it was an efficient war machine that took a broken people and almost conquered the world. The truth is, the methods they used were inefficient, corrupt, and ultimately self-defeating. They cared more about propaganda and pushing out an image of fortitude than actually doing anything that would truly help themselves. They used scapegoats, bigotry, anything they could to try to get people on board with the programs, even while they suffered under them."
@ImNealHunt
@ImNealHunt Жыл бұрын
I tell you what fascinates and (disturbs me a bit) is the amount of people who think jordan peterson is a clever guy.
@derekpayneszubliminals7723
@derekpayneszubliminals7723 Жыл бұрын
The fact that KZbin doesn’t do shit about those type of people.
@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis
@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis Жыл бұрын
While youtube deleted videos of my kids for repeating white nationalist scripts back to them on their channels. Repeated refused to restore them, I am sure they are gone now.
@nutmatical1042
@nutmatical1042 Жыл бұрын
Is abismal
@paulsmart4672
@paulsmart4672 Жыл бұрын
Clicks is clicks, as far as they're concerned.
@ScorpioSpacedOut
@ScorpioSpacedOut Жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking up about this. I actually have seen pro- Nazi comments in the documentaries about WW2 and whatnot. It makes me so sick to my stomach. I try to flag the comments for hate speech and they don't take them down.
@Captaiesqueleto
@Captaiesqueleto Жыл бұрын
It’s not Hate Speech it’s just Speaking freely like I don’t like what Communist say I hate them but I won’t say it’s hate speech cause it’s them speaking freely
@kobemop
@kobemop Жыл бұрын
Yep, also a lot of the Western countries recruited Nazis through operation paperclip and kept communists down through operation gladio.
@jeffersonclippership2588
@jeffersonclippership2588 Жыл бұрын
With regards to Gladio, it's interesting going to the wiki page for the Years of Lead and seeing how the left had thousands of casualties and the fascists had ~100.
@mercuryatamolos3687
@mercuryatamolos3687 Жыл бұрын
History is sometimes written by the victors. However, sometimes history is not written by the victors. It’s almost as if trueisms and platitudes about the totality of human history have very limited value and only serve as a rhetorical device to obscure the truth.
@Chuck_EL
@Chuck_EL Жыл бұрын
that saying and the "they had more advanced weaponry" always makes me cringe....its clearly facist statements to condition people to accept tryanny
@jeffersonclippership2588
@jeffersonclippership2588 Жыл бұрын
Turns out that history is written by writers
@TheaTheGenius
@TheaTheGenius Жыл бұрын
I swear, people foeget that the Nazis themselves obsessievly kept records of their atrocities. The prosecutors at Nuremberg used THEIR own records, as well as other evidence collected to convict them.
@ninjoshday
@ninjoshday Жыл бұрын
​@@jeffersonclippership2588 History is written by the people who write history
@Shaytan.666
@Shaytan.666 Жыл бұрын
@@ninjoshday in other word the winners or ?
@Hotshotter3000
@Hotshotter3000 Жыл бұрын
Troy Parfit has such a long video series on JBP and his Nazi asskissing it isn't funny. While a lot of people accused Troy of some misrepresentation, overall he is quite accurate about JBP's love of Hitler.
@kiwistuff4237
@kiwistuff4237 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing these types of comments almost 10 years ago, when I was a kid. Shook me up then, but I've learned since that some things just don't change
@EmperorSmith
@EmperorSmith Жыл бұрын
You kids are probably too young to remember the days of 'endless WW2 History Documentaries' on television. Using old stock footage from WW2 and then dressing it up as a "history program" was a cheap way to produce hours and hours of content. I remember documentaries focused on Hitlers speeches, translated in full. But at the same time, learned about Goebbels and his propaganda program, and then saw the speeches in context. And that is what is missing from these youtube videos and the tweets and tiktoks etc - is context. There isn't time to go into the context, so all you get is the unfiltered Geobbels propaganda. There is nothing inherently wrong with providing full uncut translated versions of Hitlers speeches. Indeed, if America were more educated on the topic, they may get better at noticing when there is a clear 'targetting of the other' in a modern politicians speech when acting like a populist demagogue, and (hopefully) avoid voting for them.
@jeffersonclippership2588
@jeffersonclippership2588 Жыл бұрын
And to think that was the History Channel's peak.
@IJustAnimateThatsTheJist
@IJustAnimateThatsTheJist Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm a huge history nerd and it's really disappointing to click on an educational video about WW2/The Holocaust and to see pro-Hitler/pro-Facism comments while watching the video. "I will not shed a tear for the homosexuals" "The jews must be stopped at any cost, even if it means another world war. This man was a hero." "Even though many people died, this was a necessary step in the right direction." These are just a few comments under several videos that I've seen; despite the videos they commented on discussed the brutal ways minorities were rounded up, isolated, and killed by the German regime. And after the past couple of years, it's only gotten worst. What used to be an attention-seeking moron has now grown into a pretty sizeable group of people that actually believe that nonsense. People like Kanye/Ye who come out and say really horrid things about people really does make the already pretty bad issue worse.
@gingercore69
@gingercore69 Жыл бұрын
If i had to say one good thing at gun point about that guy, i would say he was charismatic... Not in a persuasive way, but his deception skills were great... I cant believe people still fall for his speeches even after he left the chat by self termination...
@lloroshastar6347
@lloroshastar6347 Жыл бұрын
Yeah true but it seems charisma and intelligence don't have to go together. Andrew Tate is clearly a total moron but he has some sort of charisma that hypnotises gullible idiots into his cult all the same.
@Johnny-wo4jn
@Johnny-wo4jn Жыл бұрын
Charismatic sounds like Trump
@Lorenz1973
@Lorenz1973 Жыл бұрын
Not sure that was just Hitler though… people like Goebbels or Speer really helped with the “marketing”. Speer got involved with the large rallies, some of the unique look is down to him. And sadly Goebbels wasn’t stupid when it came to propaganda… I absolutely hate Nazis/ Nazism, but sadly not all of them were stupid idiots. Speer managed to talk himself out of a death sentence and rehabilitate himself (somewhat for some time)… still absolutely incredible how people fell for his lies.
@Onoesmahpie
@Onoesmahpie Жыл бұрын
I agree with Lorenz we must examine the entire nazi machine and the ideas which allowed it to be in the first place if we are ever to prevent it from popping up in another form in the future. Hitler was an instrumental part of Nazi germany, a keystone no doubt. However, he was one human being shaped by the ideas of his time. He was not a singular entity, nor an 'antichrist', he was not an anomaly or a demon. The horrible truth was that he was a human being, and that another human being could, perhaps being born in circumstances similar to hitler, develop similar beliefs, consolidate power, and then enact atrocities unspeakable. How do we as a society prevent this? Have we actually taken a single step to do so? I worry that the failure to discuss adequately underlying ideas such as how nazi propaganda was so successful, and why such ideas are so hateful and ignorant and bigoted, and even why so many people can go on to adopt them, how such a hateful genocide machine can engulf an entire country, is simply allowing the term 'hitler' and by extension nazi Germany to morph into an amorphous meaningless concept that is universally demonized, but perhaps in many cases without ever really disarming the landmine that were the conditions which made hitler and by extension nazi Germany possible.
@yoholup19
@yoholup19 Жыл бұрын
One thing you can't say about Hitler was that he wasn't charismatic that's how a lot of these atrocities happen give one person the power of charisma and you can convince a whole group that X group is the enemy
@Observette
@Observette Жыл бұрын
It’s incredible what ignorance can do to a person’s mind. Especially a young persons mind. I think of all the young groyper types who literally sit on CozyTV or in discord’s listening to someone revising history and they lap it up like it’s the truth. Absolutely insanity.
@nektariosorfanoudakis2270
@nektariosorfanoudakis2270 Жыл бұрын
If you have relatives with "experiences" of the Axis, and if your school system taught you the most elementary things about Nazism (a movement that seeks to undo the Enlightenment and even potentially Christianity and regress society back to the stone or bronze age, where "the Strong dominated the Weak and that was Fair"), that should be enough. So something's up with the West's school system, since most of them weren't invaded by the Axis.
@Jade0603
@Jade0603 Жыл бұрын
I have full shame about this, and I don’t tell many people this for obvious reasons but around 2016 (13 years old) I went into the alt-right pipeline on KZbin. It started with the anti-SJW stuff and then I got recommended Hitler speeches from KZbin. It’s really a shame because when I was 12, I was liberal and coming to terms with my sexuality. I believed a heavily revised version of history where the holocaust didn’t happen and the Nazi’s never persecuted LGBT people for being LGBT. I wish I could make up for the harm I did, it was the biggest mistake of my life.
@dorrud
@dorrud Жыл бұрын
I have always loved the written account by a Christian monk that complained of vikings bewitching women. This bewitching was daily washing, a regular changing of their clothes, and a combing of their hair.
@dorrud
@dorrud Жыл бұрын
I don't know for certain if this is a true thing. But it was a 200yr old book I read it in.
@TheReddShinobi13
@TheReddShinobi13 Жыл бұрын
Adolf Hitler actually worked with a theatre teacher for a while before the 30s election in order to learn how to speak and portray himself. So the myth that he was naturally charismatic is a joke, he had to learn how to be a good speaker and how to radiate confidence. Before that, all he had going for him was his wild passion for his beliefs. It gets even more pathetic when you understand that Hitler stole Mussolinis whole flow, word for word, bar for bar. The posturing, the speaking patterns, the theatrics, the fucking salute. Nothing about this man was unique, EXCEPT how evil he was
@LukeTansiongco
@LukeTansiongco Жыл бұрын
And he gets to take all of the credit as if he came up with those postures instead. I kind of feel really bad for Mussolini now.
@hbsupreme1499
@hbsupreme1499 Жыл бұрын
I will push back a lot of the evil he did was him. Also, co-opting a lot of the things at the empires of the alley powers like concentration camps, nationalism, militarism, ethnic expansion, ethnic nationalism. These are not nazi concepts that he pretty much stole everything. And just exhaustion made it anti semtism which isn't even announcing concepts.
@tubian323
@tubian323 Жыл бұрын
Say what you will, Hitler was based when he shot himself so there's that.
@sophitiaofhyrule
@sophitiaofhyrule Жыл бұрын
You had me in the first half not gonna lie
@ross4
@ross4 Жыл бұрын
Hitler videos having Nazi comments isn’t exactly surprising.
@buzzhawk
@buzzhawk Жыл бұрын
Well then there's more work for the next Albert Pierrepoint and manufacturers of neckties, Nuremberg style.
@kobemop
@kobemop Жыл бұрын
Well, yes. I suppose he was commenting on the archive clips.
@lloroshastar6347
@lloroshastar6347 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember seeing videos on the Holocaust back when KZbin was young and seeing tonnes of pro-Nazi comments. It's the anonymity thing, people with far-right Conservative views felt empowered.
@jeffersonclippership2588
@jeffersonclippership2588 Жыл бұрын
I've been using KZbin for 14 years and it's always been that way, it's the polar opposite of surprising.
@gregmark1688
@gregmark1688 Жыл бұрын
Maybe not to you, but for us older folks, who grew up in a world where saying something good about Hitler was literally a good way to get punched in the face... yeah, kinda surprising. In a really depressing way.
@regulargoat7259
@regulargoat7259 Жыл бұрын
Please make a video explaining how the nazis werent actually socialists, i know so many people who want socialist policies but are like *gasp* how dare you call me a socialist, those guys are nazis!
@ryanreedgibson
@ryanreedgibson Жыл бұрын
They were a far right party! Hitler changed the name from the German Workers Party to the National Socialist German Workers Party when he took over the party from Anton Drexler. The reason for this change and why Hitler would parrot SOME socialist ideals was an attempt to increase party membership. The Nazi's were NOT socialist and despised communism as much as they did the world Jewry.
@FrozEnbyWolf150
@FrozEnbyWolf150 Жыл бұрын
You know, it's the same way North Korea is a Democratic People's Republic.
@223Drone
@223Drone Жыл бұрын
@@FrozEnbyWolf150 Exactly.
@sibauchi
@sibauchi Жыл бұрын
Owen Jones did a good video on that titled 'The Nazis Were Socialists!': Debunked Once And For All.
@kobemop
@kobemop Жыл бұрын
Nazis basically enacted many privatizations which was far from anything socialist.
@MrFriend97
@MrFriend97 Жыл бұрын
As someone from the netherlands who wouldnt have existed if my grandmother hadnt been save from a consentration camp as a baby, it is horrorfying to see people so ignorant to all the insane harm and just true genoside was commit on behave and because of hitler makes me sick.
@kingwokester7324
@kingwokester7324 Жыл бұрын
Those youtube comment sections really makes me believe that the internet was a bad idea sometimes. These mf’ers aren’t even “trolling” about it anymore.
@ArmaBiologica35
@ArmaBiologica35 Жыл бұрын
"History is written by the winners" *This message is brought to you by the people who support book burners*
@Bd-ng1zv
@Bd-ng1zv 2 ай бұрын
The allies banned ten times as many books as the Germans
@katherinesavarese6009
@katherinesavarese6009 Жыл бұрын
Even Erykah Badu (and american pop/r&b star) and kanye have been santizing hitler
@hyliannerd4541
@hyliannerd4541 Жыл бұрын
I also saw similar comments defending Pinochet and Fujimori whenever it's a video related to Chile and Peru.
@TheSparkly1982
@TheSparkly1982 Жыл бұрын
The thing about Vikings is that they figured out that churches were practically unguarded, isolated, frequently near the coast, and full of valuable stuff. It's no wonder the Christian chroniclers thought they had been sent to destroy Christianity
@ynk1611
@ynk1611 Жыл бұрын
About JP on Hitler: "I've studied hitler A LOT", so what, he read Mein Kampf or what? Anyone who read even the slightest bit of credible literature on Hitler would know all the coming things are bullshit. "You can't say he was stupid", well he wasn't completely dumb but someone buying into an ideology like he does, not graduating school, drifting on the streets and finally claiming WW1 was the greatest time of his life, you can't hand him "intelligence" either. "He wasn't without artistic talent", as someone who actually does art for a living, this makes my blood boil. Yes, he could paint a bit, but not beyond what everyone could learn if they gave it some practice. He painted mostly landscapes, because he couldn't draw people, colors and perspective were more than often funky. There is a reason he was turned down at the School of Fine Arts in Vienna and the professor (allegedly) suggesting he study architecture instead. "You can't say that he was a poor organizer", actually you can, because he never really organised anything in his political career, he always had predetermined structures and people there to build up everything for him. Anytime he had to organize himself, AKA normal life, he was a failure. "You can't say that he wasn't charismatic". This one is a bit harder, because it's subjective. He learned rhetoric from his post as a propagandist in the Reichswehr and taught himself some of it, but he allegdly was pretty awkward as a person. He could do great speeches, but other than that he didn't offer much of anything, that's why, e.g. he had little friends outside of his party and the only women he associated with were of his family and or other party memebers. He married Eva Braun not because she was swooned by him or anything of the sort, but because SHE came to HIM. "He did WONDERS for the economy!" -- this one is complete and utter BULLSHIT. He resurrected the arms industry to prepare for war and had infrastructure built for the same reason. The side effect of that was reduced unemployment, which restarted the economic machine of capitalism, however that was not due to some Hitlerian genius, anyone could've done it. And the economy wasn't "great", it was barely scraping by, but still better than what especially Brüning left behind. With the MEFO-system, he was going down the road of economic collapse, such a system could only be retained through conquest of foreign labour and capital. Jordan Peterson is a pseudo-intellectual and this has to stop, he is literally pushing nazi myths, again and again.
@Kurrentschrift
@Kurrentschrift Жыл бұрын
Saying Hitler didn’t have artistic talent is not fair. I think he had great talent, his drawing were quite good for the fact that he didn’t have any outside training as far as i know at leat. He grew up in an austrian village so i doubt that he had even Access to instructional books. Yes his perspectives were funky and he couldn’t paint people but teaching that yourself is not easy, just from my own experience i found just watching a few youtube tutorials really increased my skill in a short time if i had to figure it out all by myself i would have taken much longer to lear. also his aesthetic decisions proved to be massively popular and effective for propaganda. Not that i care about you insulting Hitler, but if he didn’t have talent than what do i have :’( .
@ynk1611
@ynk1611 Жыл бұрын
@@Kurrentschrift He doesn't have talent, neither do you or I. "Talent" is a bullshit concept. Maybe you have an advantage with memorisation or perspective thinking, but no normal person has "talent" for a skill as complex and diverse as drawing. It is 99% learned and I stand by that. Btw I do graphic design, I am only learning figure drawing and painting on the side.
@Kurrentschrift
@Kurrentschrift Жыл бұрын
@@ynk1611 Talent is absolutely real, just look at school classes almost all pupils don’t have any art training and won’t draw in their free time, yet the results of their art vary vastly in quality. Everyone can learn it but there is still a inherent/early developed difference.
@ytgytgy
@ytgytgy Жыл бұрын
yeah shit's getting nuts in this world. thanks for calling more attention to this very concerning issue
@ladyintheradiator
@ladyintheradiator Жыл бұрын
I’m Jewish, and speaking on behalf of my community we know and feel the effects of antisemitism today. It’s not safe to be outwardly Jewish ESPECIALLY on social media. Especially with Roger Waters recently, it’s hellish. It’s scary. Reach out to your Jewish friends and educate yourselves on Jewish issues. As Hen Mazzig has said. “It shouldn’t be a miracle to be Jewish and alive, but it is.”
@lunaticberserker5869
@lunaticberserker5869 Жыл бұрын
Most of the time, people on the internet say mean things to troll or get a reaction out of someone, but there's always a small percentage of them that actually very serious. As for Social media, like Twitter, you're not losing much if quit using it. Stay safe :)
@Bd-ng1zv
@Bd-ng1zv 2 ай бұрын
I have no Jewish friends. Womp womp
@pitpride1220
@pitpride1220 Жыл бұрын
This is why I love your channel. You cover important and interesting topics that other channels don't. You're not just chasing views. Keep it up!
@juannofuente2654
@juannofuente2654 Жыл бұрын
if you want to know someone bias is, look at what subject that they deem needs more "nuanced analysis" and what subject they just demonized without a sense of nuance whatsoever.
@TheKavernacle
@TheKavernacle Жыл бұрын
sorry about the mic sounds - the wire has stopped working properly will get a new one soon
@beermanmemes4733
@beermanmemes4733 Жыл бұрын
I remember in school learning in history we learnt about Hitler's rise to power. My teachers did touch on stuff like how Hitler lowering unemploment was just him excluding Jews from unemploment statistics. I think stuff like that must hammered home when teaching about WW2
@saintbrush4398
@saintbrush4398 Жыл бұрын
Its the exact same phenomenon in Spanish Civil War videos. Simps of Franco all over the comments
@molybdomancer195
@molybdomancer195 Жыл бұрын
There’s person online who included performing for Franco in her bio on her roll of honour entry for British roller figure skating as if it was a thing to be proud of
@JCCyC
@JCCyC Жыл бұрын
Worse that that: praising the Blue Division. (Spanish volunteers who joined the Nazi army in the Eastern front.)
@saintbrush4398
@saintbrush4398 Жыл бұрын
@@JCCyC Geez.
@rustkitty
@rustkitty Жыл бұрын
"History is written by the victors." is somewhat misleading because in most cases it means something more along the lines of "competing narratives are destroyed by the victors". It's also only applicable when the victor actually tries to annex the loser and eradicate their cultural history. Neither of the world wars fit the bill because the Antant/Allies didn't want to actually annex and absorb the Central/Axis countries, just pacify them and remove their influence as great powers.
@sizskie
@sizskie Жыл бұрын
also worth mentioning that history was not in fact written by the victors. google exists and i don't want to spend half an hour writing a youtube comment so i wish people looked into how narratives propagated in media by german nazis who immigrated to the US after the war, such as the myth of rommel's innocence, are still believed to this day
@Kurrentschrift
@Kurrentschrift Жыл бұрын
Why is it a prerequisite to annex land and destroy a culture to influence history in a way that favours you,that’s a ridiculous statement.
@IndellableHatesHandles
@IndellableHatesHandles Жыл бұрын
I don't think there's a problem with having these with English subtitles for academic purposes. These would be very useful if I were in a modern history class _and the subtitles were accurate._ Obviously, no-one should be praising him, though.
@randominternetguyoffical
@randominternetguyoffical Жыл бұрын
Damn man you really did your homework on this one, well done! Lotta people never really get even a basic grounding in this stuff.
@bleuemoone8710
@bleuemoone8710 Жыл бұрын
I really like certain things about Japan but the far right slant of it’s government is very concerning and sad because fascism nearly destroyed their society
@Kurt-Haas
@Kurt-Haas Жыл бұрын
I knew a girl in school that had no idea what fascism and thought the word ‘antisemitic’ was just a cool word, didn’t actually know what it meant. It’s really sad how quickly we forget about these things.
@Kino_Cartoon
@Kino_Cartoon Жыл бұрын
WTF Germany can't hide from the truth?!? Bro we have the original speeches and we speak German ourselves! We go through Nazi Germany's history at least 3 times during school with escalating complexity of economics, history, language and propaganda through art and music. You [not so nice words] we do anything but hide from that past. We learn from it while you for some weird and awful reasons seem to fall in love with that shameful past my grandparents themselves told me about!
@Kino_Cartoon
@Kino_Cartoon Жыл бұрын
"You can't accuse him of neglecting his people?" You can't WHAT? *SURE YOU CAN!* He m*rdered political enemies, jews who fought in WW1 with him. He killed people with disability, queer people etc.. He made a center with "arish" people and forced them to reproduce in order to create his master race. Hitler took care of his loyalist but he did not take care of Germans! Ps: if you didn't know (or it's not in the video.. sorry I'm pausing it to write this). The economic stability was created through the afford of the party before Hitler and the economic rise was only possible by Hitler for one not paying the last war depts and second because he "loaned" loooots of money from neighboring countries with zero intentions of giving those back but concurring them later on.
@reform-revolution
@reform-revolution Жыл бұрын
@@Kino_Cartoon he didnt even take care of his loyalists .... they were murdered when he felt the urge even if they did nothing wrong to him
@Dorian_sapiens
@Dorian_sapiens Жыл бұрын
_"...while you for some weird and awful reasons seem to fall in love..."_ That weird reason is what Antonio Gramsci described in terms of 'cultural hegemony'. Capitalists will always resort to fascism when they feel their position is threatened by a genuine, revolutionary, anti-capitalist Left. And capitalists own and operate the propaganda machines that feed people positive portrayals of fascist policy, usually with the fascist aesthetics scraped off. Neoliberalism is nothing but fascism enacted in slow motion, frog-in-a-boiling-pot style; you can't be surprised when some people, indoctrinated into neoliberalism, end up learning about the famous fascists of the past and think, "Oh, these guys were really doing it right!"
@Historia-Magistra-Vitae.
@Historia-Magistra-Vitae. Жыл бұрын
@@Dorian_sapiens _"Capital ists will always resort to fa scism "_ Wrong. Fascis m had nothing to do with capitali sm what soever. It was a tota litarian f ar-le ft, soci alist ideology based on national syndi calism. In fact, fasc ism opposed capita lism.
@Historia-Magistra-Vitae.
@Historia-Magistra-Vitae. Жыл бұрын
@@Dorian_sapiens _"Neoliber alism is nothing but fas cism enacted in slow motion,"_ Wrong. Neolibe ralism is literally the opposite of fasci sm, since fas cism was a soc ialist ideology.
@JL0ndon
@JL0ndon 11 ай бұрын
As a Filipino American who’s lolo (grandfather in Tagalog) survived the Bataan Death March i find it chilling and disturbing that any Japanese channel would be promoting Hitler.
@alanfike
@alanfike Жыл бұрын
Those who equate masculinity with nobility understand neither. Leave it to a conservative to take something that they attained through inheritance as an excuse to oppress others.
@cmd7930
@cmd7930 Жыл бұрын
Leave it to a liberal to be degenerate and destroy everything his conservative ancestors build
@Thefire591
@Thefire591 Жыл бұрын
@@cmd7930 liberal? Who is a liberal here? You are confused.
@gregmark1688
@gregmark1688 Жыл бұрын
That's a pretty quoteable line there, Alan
@xuaevorpnitsuj
@xuaevorpnitsuj Жыл бұрын
“Just put Hitler in a monster box and don’t say anything more”? See, Peterson will say that about Hitler, but he’ll never say that about Stalin.
@DarkPuppy9
@DarkPuppy9 Жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson likes to say he's studied things a lot, when he in fact has not studied much of anything since getting his degree.
@Greenplanet949
@Greenplanet949 5 ай бұрын
Just finished re-reading William Shirer’s “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.” The Nazis invaded looted and murdered their way across Europe into Russia, so no Jordon Peterson, it wasn’t “just the concentration camps that were bad” it was everything. I lived there 30 years ago and we had a German friend. His mom turned 19 during the Reich. She was unmarried, and was deemed to have “superior aryan bloodlines” and so was “invited” to stay at an SS resort where she was graped by a variety of SS officers until she was found to be pregnant. Our friend was the result. Maybe this will be right up Jordon Peterson’s alley, since he’s so worried about declining birthrates. These people are hardly worth the moniker of “human” anymore.
@jasoncandanedo1034
@jasoncandanedo1034 Жыл бұрын
Glad someone is finally tackling this subject. I've met my share of Jordan Peterson fans who are also Hitler apologists and there's no shortage of them on the right. It says a lot about JP and the right.
@lloroshastar6347
@lloroshastar6347 Жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised there is, but I'm mainly annoyed that these same far-right idiots who want to enact Nazi policies also try to spread the BS rumour that the Nazi's were socialist or left-wing purely on the basis the original Nazi party was called (in English translation) the National Socialist German Workers Party. Now for the sake of historical accuracy, there was a branch initially of that party who were effectively Nazbol, believed in implementing some socialist economic policies with Conservative social policies, but even they were expunged from the party after they took power. The actual Nazi's weren't socialist at all, they had some State intervention as well as privatisation economic policies but state intervention does not a socialist make. Workers did not sieze the means of production, the Nazi party did. But all of their social policies were virtually identical to a lot of far-right Conservative policies, even many far-right policies implemented today in places like Hungary, Italy, Russia, the UK and yes even in the United States. They were a far-right party in every way that counts. I'm also not remotely convinced by these people trying to claim Italian fascism was inspired by socialist thought either.
@_Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
@_Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Жыл бұрын
_"also try to spread the BS rumour that the Na zi's were so cialist or l eft-w ing "_ There is no rumor. By definition they were social ists since they advocated for sociali sm on a national level. They were to the right from marxi sm which would make them far-left.
@_Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
@_Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Жыл бұрын
_"but even they were expunged from the party after they took power. "_ Nope they weren't. Goebbels was even more direct and vocal so cialist than Hi tler was. He wen't nowhere. If you are referring to the Ni ght of the Long kni ves, it had nothing to do with sociali sm whatsoever. It was about an internal power struggle between Hi tler and Röhm.
@_Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
@_Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Жыл бұрын
_"The actual Na zi's weren't soc ialist at all, "_ Wrong. You cannot be an advocate for centralized planning and strong government controls without being a socia list. That's what made Hitl er a soc ialist. He may have been right of the Bolsheviks, but he was still a soci alist lefti st as he believed in strong central gover nment control. Hitl er outright declared himself a sociali st in Mein Kampf, just not the Marxist international or full Soviet type. He struggled with HOW to distinguish his social ism from the rest of the Marxist crowd.
@nergregga
@nergregga Жыл бұрын
@@_Historia.Magistra.Vitae. If you think that, then you don't understand what socialism is. Socialism isn't "the state does something," Socialism is the workers owning the means of production.
@_Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
@_Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Жыл бұрын
_"Workers did not sieze the means of production, the Na zi party did. "_ That is still sociali sm, just not mar xism which cares about the proletarian revolution. Socia lism itself does not. Soci alism is an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, the government etc.) own/control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership/control of the means of production.
@gepisar
@gepisar Жыл бұрын
good job Kav' ! Keep on at it. Excellent video.
@ahmadhadi177
@ahmadhadi177 Жыл бұрын
These three individuals.Malcolm X,Martin Luther King Jr and Nelson Mandela.They don't just care about Black rights but also other people's rights as well,right?King was a Socialist and opposed America's war in Vietnam,right?Maybe these guys in the N@2i videos' comment sections should find inspiration with these three individuals instead of H@@@@r.
@archangelofcoffee922
@archangelofcoffee922 Жыл бұрын
Don't know if anyone else noticed this but when I'm logged out of KZbin using a seperate account or using a guest account, I get a lot of anti woke and right wing YT recomendations. I even got this on a library computer where I couldn't log into YT.
@Dorian_sapiens
@Dorian_sapiens Жыл бұрын
Yep, KZbin is deliberately amplifying all that nonsense.
@kobinho1917
@kobinho1917 Жыл бұрын
Sees crackhead screaming at passers-by “wow literal charisma god”
@cliffgaither
@cliffgaither Жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis. I, too, when I was younger, believed the "history" books praising Hitler's economic policies. ( Whatever the German public thought about H, they definitely must have been extremely angry about the aftermath of the war, leaving Germany beaten into dust -- again ! )
@paulsmart4672
@paulsmart4672 Жыл бұрын
What really gets me through all this is just... Imagine knowing someone committing attrocities on a massive scale... you know it is a historical fact that this person was responsible for on of the cruellest and most murderous regimes in history... but then you hear them give an impassioned speech. And just try to imagine what it would be like to so overwhelmingly, colosally, stupid that the lesson you take from that is not "I guess even the worst people can still talk a good game, sometimes" but "Wow, I never realized what a good guy he was."
@rafaeliglesias572
@rafaeliglesias572 Жыл бұрын
I remember seen one of those KZbin shorts about facts about the Soviet movie "Come and See". And the comment section was full of people calling the movie propaganda and saying stupid stuff such as "Oh the partisans were apolitical " or worse like "The Germans never did anything like that in the Easter front"
@jochenkraus7016
@jochenkraus7016 Жыл бұрын
Tell them to read about Dirlewanger on who and his unit (according to Wikipedia) Come And See is based on.
@coryfice1881
@coryfice1881 Жыл бұрын
Which is funny cause a nazi soldier actually said that was what they did when he saw the movie.
@St2hol
@St2hol Жыл бұрын
Really enjoying the post-WWII greek history references in multiple of your videos. It s a shady part of our history (as well as the western and particularly the Uk history) which is not being discussed enough. There is 1986 BBC documentray ("the hidden war") which has only been broadcast once and covers the events as well as the protest in the UK in the greek civil war era (1944-1947). Thanks for shedding some light to the events and i d love to see a deep dive into it.
@mdragon12
@mdragon12 Жыл бұрын
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