We NEED To Talk About These Path of Exile 2 Reviews…

[@MachoLangelo]

I want a video where his hair looks slightly crazier with every time video cuts back to him. Idk. Just a thought I had.

[@jeffreysevinga9398]

This! perfect

[@wynnefox]

And slowly mess up his clothes. But never say anything about it. Ever

[@FootballStarr21]

And his beard gets shorter until he's fully shaved

[@Trowarr]

I watched youtube commentary aboiut "Cats!" and why the music was bad in that movie. The commenter started somber and got more and more frustrated as he explained why the music was so bad. It is 45 mins long, and it is awesome, at the end he has reached his breaking point. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2TEfGB7gJqJaM0si=q8TzJWlOw7H7ZBZO

[@ForceGamingYT]

We can make this happen.

[@Tigerblade11238]

So the game is good. Got it.

[@204_rc]

Yeah, that's all anyone should care about. Just have fun!

[@EAZUP]

Lol it does sound like everyone is just hyping themselves up.

[@_SPACEMAN_33]

Seriously. Who gives a fuck about embargoes and who's fault it was? Blah blah blah. GGG is making a fucking awesome game and Fextralife is a good channel. Anyone concerned with judging anyone else for a simple mistake doesn't deserve the attention they're getting.

[@jonessii]

thanks, didn't even have to let the video autoplay

[@Turican76]

PoE2 is a overhyped medicore game. the kiddie hype ends after 2 weeks ,when the naive wake up

[@mintberry6014]

Can we just acknowledge that a major game developer has taken responsibility twice within two months. No excuses, no finger pointing, just an “our fault and we’ll do better”. That’s honestly extremely refreshing.

[@adyantotrinugroho4469]

What's the other one?

[@mintberry6014]

@@adyantotrinugroho4469 When GGG wasn’t going to make the mid November target release date.

[@linivxx]

This happens quite frequently with this company. Not that they make mistakes all the time but when they do they own up to it.

[@backseatdriver9576]

True. This is why I bought a nice pack and support them. Not exactly a reply about the video but a solid point as an aside.

[@xBINARYGODx]

ah yes, lets only pay attention sometimes so we can have our post truth view of the world hold up

[@Billy4321able]

The time being so off was likely due to the release originally being slated for November 15th but ended up getting delayed until December 6th. There were likely tens if not hundreds of people and outlets they had to contact to clear up the change, so a miscommunication was essentially inevitable.

[@Exilium2090]

Fextralife is not traditional game media, they are wiki and build guide makers. They are not known for their reviews.

[@jfive3951]

They are also known for being a scumbag

[@andypmith5496]

And scummy ones, at that. Their wikis and guides are full of outdated and incorrect information just to pump their sites full of ads and play their streams to boost viewer numbers.

[@ajbgaming5166]

Reposters, not "builders" They literally copy and paste from maxroll

[@wilazn]

Their wiki is trash and is just a front to view bot their twitch channel.

[@Scienceoflife10]

@@ajbgaming5166 :D

[@torff6784]

Meanwhile me, just being happy that game looks and works good 😀

[@Slitheringpeanut]

Which is what GGG counts on when they pull stunts like this. This isn't the first time they 'oopsed!' like this.

[@torff6784]

@Slitheringpeanut i don’t really care about Fextralife or any of this drama. Since I wont be going to their Wiki page to begin with, and didnt check their gameplay review (why spoil it for myself, game comes out in a week). So technically, all the butthurt just flies over my head while I sit here being happy that poe2 is good 😀 Also bad marketing is still marketing, so yeah

[@ialphasoul2460]

we do love improved graphics but wats important core function is how fun we play it

[@johnWayne-df6rm]

​@@Slitheringpeanut😢😢😢

[@user-kb6ey3dq7c]

​@@torff6784imagine if kai cenat gor ea or just some hype generation channel did the same its cool for them to do that but don't have huge blogs and a wiki that just thwarts rhe new player experience, bg3 showed me how shit their wiki is

[@rubisco5997]

The big problem here is fextralife has a wikipedia and they already started making "guide" style content...

[@Moogle]

they have been hiding a lot of it but yeah the damage is done

[@0UTSIDER]

those who use wikipedia will just ruin the fun for themselves

[@va02lora]

Just dont go on the wiki then?

[@ynnadquah]

they already took it all down

[@StevenZelaya-b6n]

How about you just don't read them?

[@Corusame]

The moment PoE 2 comes out I likely won't be checking any kind of social media tbf

[@Khalid-ek8sp]

Is there a confirmed release date for the full version?

[@brilobox2]

@@Khalid-ek8sp no, just ‘some time’ between July and December 2025, probably more toward Dec.

[@MasteryGuns]

@@Khalid-ek8spthey expected early access to last for 6 months

[@_Titanium_]

@@MasteryGuns at least 6 months

[@_Titanium_]

I've already shut myself off from spoilers

[@DualGaming-YTC]

Even if GGG made a mistake with their embargo, I could easily see Fextralife just reading the embargo going "Hmm this doesn't look right, well anyway POST" because that's how shady / scummy they are.

[@TehParismio]

That is unfair, since extra was given the go-ahead, they have the right to do it. It was GGGs fault for the miscommunication.

[@DualGaming-YTC]

@ you mean everyone else dirge get it but fextra did? Please tell me you don’t believe that.

[@NoName-mi8js]

@@TehParismio No, they were not given the go-ahead. They are simply taking advantage of GGG's kindness, and they violated the agreement later anyways. And no, it's not unfair, lol. Even if they found a loop hole, it's basic decency.

[@DerpusDingler]

He only said "the game was designed for controller" because he wasn't adapting to the WASD movement system where your cursor dictates the way your character is facing. That's not to say it's impossible for one to think the game is better on controller - I'm just stating the guy didn't have a clue.

[@nicks4914]

TLDR: POE2 is as good as we hoped it would be.

[@AlmostSaDiK]

Yeah, man, i dont understand this hate. almost every legendary game goes through their buggy or problematic phase (like balders gate early access ,elden ring 1st month, cyberpunk 1st year😅)

[@mufasafalldown8401]

Yea I'm halfway through the video and not sure what his point is.

[@Over_Toasted]

Yeah, such a nothing video. You think he was sponsored by POE devs to market this thing to hell

[@AlmostSaDiK]

@@Over_Toasted yeah, i dont think what you said made sense (about GGG sponsoring him), but sure

[@theonemvp_1]

I watch his videos but hardly take what he says with any merit. He's kind of a negative Nancy with every game.😂​@@mufasafalldown8401

[@edrueter9]

This is an industry issue, not a PoE2 issue. But we don't have to look at the review content. Im planning to play blind all through the early access.

[@matthewdeklerk3457]

You know POE2 is gonna be an absolute bloody banger if this is the most negative thing someone can say about it's early reviews. "someone said it was amazing and genre-defining a few days early" Lmao, not exactly a cooking stream

[@PherPhur]

Bingo. This is what a bored and riddled with anticipation community looks like. At least we had the D4 cookbook video to dunk on a couple days ago.

[@matthewdeklerk3457]

​@PherPhur blizzards curse ks that they put all their time into gimmicks and none into gameplay. Lmao when I saw that cookbook it was like an out of body experience. Who is this for? Literallt there is no lore around rich famous diablo meals. People who no life diabloe eat an asmongold diet, not a GRR Martin fantasy platter. Completely out of touch.

[@ForTheViolence]

It’s all the asmongold cucks making this an outrage all because he made a video about embedding last year.

[@christianchilders8969]

@@PherPhur Not exactly. In all honesty this video completely misses the mark on the "why" of this being an issue. If you want to check someone break it down from within the mainstays of the poe community and the reason it was taken so badly you can check the video ghazzy made where he explains what the backlash was actually for.

[@christianchilders8969]

@@matthewdeklerk3457 It's actually funny because it was so out of left field that everyone was gobsmacked by such a stupid idea. There's a reason why the cookbook from Final Fantasy 14 sold well and that is literally the hundreds of meals you can make for buffs in game on top of the huge playerbase. I'll be honest in the few hundred hours I put into D4 I can't recall seeing food anywhere.

[@mrvad3r198]

What is a game release without having a fextralife drama. Dude turned out to be a true video game villian.. from twitch view botting to trying to hijack bg3 wiki

[@seanheisey8645]

PoE2 on launch is going to be incredible, and for 6+ months they are going to drip feed 3 more acts so double the original campaign, 50 more bosses, 6 MORE classes 1 additional ascendancy per class... and untold amounts of new endgame content. And thats just the EA period, which depending on the cadence of content release could feel like an ONGOING league change every month or so. About to be eating SO GOOD! Christmas is comin early boys!

[@lexdtv]

7:30 7:53 a strong wind must have blown through

[@louieberg2942]

Heh, that's actually pretty funny. Force has a habit of running his hand through his hair, with great results.

[@kingofnara]

😂

[@craiynel8219]

And all he can say on the matter is "now, of course, I don't know exactly what happened in this particular situation, we are all just guessing...". I guess we will never know what truly did happen.

[@808Target808]

came here for this comment! lol

[@Reelix]

Heh - Good catch :)

[@nicolasenriquegarciacastil974]

No way you got sponsored by horizon zero dawn from temu lol

[@SF_Zoom]

Those dev's almost called it: Horizon: Zero Fucks - Forbidden East But that would have been shameless..😂

[@EvilKinokon]

Horizon? No it is more like Zoids, it's a lot older then Horizon.

[@jorgeelias1294]

😂 this full copied games kill me

[@greggcellente]

@@EvilKinokonThank you! I thought I was going crazy. The genre has been around a lot longer than Horizon.

[@RoxanneYuki]

That genre of games has been longer than that burning trash pile of horizon - infinite chins fatloy

[@MarvinBoydCo]

honestly I appreciate you trying to clear the air where others may not be. Even going into how embargoes work and how different they can be. Good on the developers for also admitting to their mistake as well. Why everyone is so upset is beyond me, just be happy the game is as good as everyone predicted and has been preview. very rarely do we ever get such things and such transparency from developers.

[@Spika94]

Gonna be brutally honest here, people who think GGG is lying are just looking for someone to dogpile on. Even if by some chance GGG is lying, they are still taking the blame for it, and I find that to be very respectable, because it would mean GGG tried to end the cycle of hate and/or dogpiling right there and then.

[@VadLocke]

One of the main reasons poe community was upset is because even after fextralife took their video down understanding it was too soon, their wiki continued to be populated. So regardless of who's fault it was the video was leaked, they were still at fault even after their miscommunication was corrected.

[@Lebigbeard]

guides will be out within hours of launch. This is a huge money maker for content creators and guide websites. Hundreds of thousands of new players to POE will be running to guides after the first 3 hours of playing the game

[@NapFloridian]

Just stay away from Fuckstralife (Fextralife)... their content normally is utter garbage and a waste of your time

[@PherPhur]

And half of the stuff they lookup on fextralifes wiki will be wrong. Where were you for the Elden Ring launch?

[@down-the-rabbit-hole]

Not sure how they will release guides, when nobody will have been through all of the passive points within hours. It takes time to know what combinations of passives work the best. If someone does release a guide within hours, it will more than likely be garbage and pure clickbait.

[@MonochromeMemories]

@@PherPhur Yes, and then these people given wrong information flood livestreamer or youtube channels with stupid problems due to stupid guides, it was a problem in PoE1 and stuff like this just guarantees it will be a problem at launch for PoE2 content creators. Then some of them looking at incorrect guides will inevitably quit out of frustration or time wasted. I was there for Elden Ring Launch, I know that the fextralife wiki dominated google top search results and still does, what point are you trying to make exactly? PoE1 had wiki issues for a long time, it took years to switch over to a dedicated wiki away from the previous problematic fandom wiki. Now fextralife wiki of all places is given early information and a leg up in analytics, uurgh.

[@kenshinhimura9387]

so you admit there are this many losers on our planet? What kind of loser looks up a guide to a game before they even attempted to beat the game on their own? Gen Z really are a bunch of zero skill clowns.

[@micheljolicoeur6094]

There are 2 issues. - Issue 1 is the date which GGG said was their fault. - Issue 2 GGG said the "REVIEW COPY IS NOT TO BE USED TO MAKE GUIDE STYLE CONTENT" and Fextralife has an Act 1 Walkthrough on their website. The fact the walkthrough even exists in the first place is EMBARGO BREAKING.

[@kenshinhimura9387]

Who the F cares. Don't click on his garbage videos or website. Problem solved. Or do you have zero self control?

[@dragonwaz]

Now that the embargo has lifted he's spoken up on exactly what happend. He was given the wrong date, specifically emailed them to confirm if the date was right, and was told yes even though it wasn't right. As for the other point his embargo orders only said not to make guide content of Act 3. This is proven by all the guides that are coming out day one right now that other people also had ready.

[@HeIlSpawN88]

I think people are mostly mad because FextraLife was given a review copy. If it was anyone else I don’t think this would be nearly as big of a drama as it is. Calling FextraLife “traditional” games media is absolutely laughable.

[@Joyapp]

this is absolutely the reason. people online are weird.

[@EncoreBesti]

Wow, you two are really kids if you think that the matter of the truth and fact is that it was said by the head devs themselves there was no gonna be early access

[@EncoreBesti]

Now delete your entitled 5 minute youtube accounts children

[@Clifftowers]

I'm not buying this game. Everyone is acting like the game has released, it hasn't. It's not early access, it's a paid game. We don't even know when it's going to be released f2p. So is it free? Is it a paid game? Is it released or on paid beta? I'm not complaining about having to buy it. I'm complaining about the predatory trap and tricking people to think it's free. It's not free. The people playing now were tricked into buying it cause of "early access". Just wanted to vent in this shameless tactic

[@JH-dq2ni]

Thanks for your years of content Force, I do appreciate the work you do, keep it up. Ill have to try PoE 2 now as one was too much for me to handle.

[@Droz75]

Nice hair, Force.

[@Vartazian360]

People like to freak out over nothing. He showed hardly anything new. I saw the video. He basically said its a good game that is hard lioe dark souls, has huge build pptential, good graphics and details, and might be the best arpg of all time. He also said he ran into a few bugs which he is sure will be ironed out through early access. People love drama. Good grief. Chill

[@karl343]

So true, too many drama queen KZbinrs nowadays. They're ruining the perception of the traditional gamer, turning a generation into whinny soyboys.

[@xcams4599]

yea he def didn't have a guide "walk through" of the campaign spoiling everything about it on his wiki already. Yea... hardly anything lol

[@Reelix]

> He showed hardly anything new. I guess you missed the full detailed walkthrough?

[@Blockdigit]

​@@xcams4599who goes to a freaking wiki and expect not to be spoiled. If you chose to search the wiki for the said spoiler, read it up and be upset that you got spoiled for something you looked for and read then it's up to you. It' boggles my mind how people can be stupid sometimes.

[@xcams4599]

@@Blockdigit All I said is that Fextralife made a wiki spoiling everything. Which proves the guy who commented wrong that "He showed hardly anything new."

[@Hathnotseen]

7:54 i cracked up at the hair

[@TheEvangelionsebas]

lol yes!! Some storm broke in and blew his hair away or something 😂

[@BadgerCx]

People really do be complaining about nothing. Imagine being upset that a company is being ethical to its consumers by giving them a chance to see a review before they buy the early access

[@paulmdevenney]

wait...people are actually arguing that we shouldn't have any reviews to fall back on before *paying money* for a early access. Give me strength.

[@4.1132]

That is such an oddly specific and weird complaint (about the review copies). Feels like people are making stuff up to mad about.

[@michelvandeweetering4450]

imagine making an 18 minute video about it. right ?

[@Jigglexphysics]

Nah people are just wanting people to remember the beauty of figuring sh*t out for themselves

[@Syfmuna]

I think you might just be young or new to gaming and it seems like the norm for you, but the way many people got their start on KZbin was by posting videos about games as soon as they came out. If you had good stuff and the game was popular, you had a chance of your video catching some traction because everyone got access to games at the same time. Then game developers started giving early access to established content creators and by the time the game was available to the masses there were already a thousand videos about a game. There's no chance that you as a no-name content creator can stand out in the flood of content that is created before you even have a chance to play the game. An example I can give personally is Skyrim, one of the most popular games of all time, but it came out largely before review copies were a thing and on my first KZbin account I posted a clip showing off some high level spells within the first few days. It blew up because there wasn't already footage of those spells everywhere and I could never have that opportunity with a game ever again. Good thing there's a million jobs in the world more worthwhile and rewarding than being a content creator (sorry Force). 😅

[@4.1132]

@ Is anyone stopping them from doing that?

[@natecoet3291]

​@@4.1132 that's the issue everyone thinks having a point makes things happen on their terms when in fact they are dtiolabsre Levant as before they had a voice. They just make noise to express how unhappy their lives are. Nothing stopping anyone from looking at the stuff but yeah it's there they have to cry about it. I even bet most of them didn't even check the wiki or whatever 😂

[@Virgiliusz]

There is no way Fextralife did not know the embargo was being lifted the date it did, even if there was a miscommunication he did not bother correcting them. He 100% knew full well what he was doing.

[@dragonwaz]

Sure Jan. Now that the embargo is lifted Fextralife has said exactly what happend. The entire miscommunication was specifically because he DID ask for clarification on the date he thought was wrong and he was specifically emailed that it was right, when it was not right.

[@Abatement7]

Thanks for not hiding the lead, that is worth a full view.

[@dukecunning7046]

You seem like a cool dude. Always enjoy your videos. Thanks!

[@MitchellJames_Snowl]

This may sound silly but one of the things that people enjoy at the start of a new server is the Server Wide First Announcements. I know some dudes are pissed or irritated at the fact that the people who received this early full game release access are getting to practice for that Server Wide First Announcement Recognition (I personally don't give a hoot). But for many players this is like the Olympics of games and they take it seriously competitively ( I mean there are guides on how to Finish Path of Exile efficiently). The record by a Single Solo player is somewhere around 6-10 hours I believe (I'm not sure). There is a record of 51 minutes 8 seconds but that was accomplished by a coordinated 13-person team in a speed run(Not my quote). The people who received early access should not be allowed to get these Server Wide First Announcements. They get to become very familiar with the game and what needs to be done before official launch. So it would absolutely be unfair. Categorized actually as cheating. GGG may not even do Server Wide First in PoE2. (I Don't know)

[@MrLilhauughh]

I'm pissed off that people are pissed off. And if people aren't pissed off, that just pisses me off even more. Everyone should just be perpetually pissed off all of the time for any and every reason possible. Oh wait, I just described the entirety of social media. Oh well. Happy Holidays people! You're loved even if you are pissed off.

[@mrkookoo]

Any game that has a challenge has become like Dark Souls. I expect that we suffer from lazy players.

[@Slitheringpeanut]

Dark Souls isn't challenging. It used cheap tricks to fool you that it's rather simplistic patterns are 'hard'.

[@johnbennett1729]

@@Slitheringpeanutblah blah blah. It is challenging until you get good.

[@kelticowl9400]

I'm sure all negative reviews will be scrutinized for Skill issues lol

[@Buggolious]

@@Slitheringpeanut they are challenging games

[@Seproc]

@@Slitheringpeanutmeaning youre so bad at gaming that you cant dodge roll a very simplistic and telegraphed attacks in souls games😂😂😂 Who said that being simple=easy?

[@k1nzl]

It's Fextralife we're talking about here, with its scummy practices, im pretty sure it was deliberate they released their video early

[@FyuturePresence]

I freaking love ForceGaming Videos. Not only I love the classic reviews, but also sharing informations about what's going on in the gaming world. Thanks mate. Appreciate the effort you invest into your work. I would love to sh*t on Fextralife after all what he...nevermind. I just keep the positive focus on ForceGaming with this comment. Cheers and kind regards!

[@NZZN666]

I couldnt care any less about the review issues. I couldn't care less if anyone is angry. We'll all get to play in just a few days anyway and the game looks great. That's all I care about.

[@dembowskikidd]

This 18:38 minute long video could have been 4 minutes…

[@eddie_babyyy]

Make a KZbin channel then

[@dembowskikidd]

@ so you are saying he didn’t ramble for 18 minutes for extra ad revenue or just cappin for someone you don’t know???

[@skrabio]

People got to see incredible footage and commentary of a game they're excited about... and got mad? lolllllk

[@NoName-mi8js]

It's called spoilers and violating NDA and taking early advantage unfairly.

[@mr.x4935]

Thumbs down for thumbnail clickbait

[@macdrizzae]

I think the concern is less that Fextralife is going to spoil the game by making crazy strong builds or anything, but more that his very early foot in the door of guides will take control of the SEO for anything guide-related and will affect all of the new players the most, who won't have the experience to differentiate between his guides and a true pro's like ZIzaran, DSLily, Ghazzy, etc. I think the concern is especially strong regarding their wiki, which are notoriously bad compared the the official community-run wiki that is fantastic.

[@Joyapp]

You think he's the only one? oh boy. Just wait for the 1476 different ign, gamespot, pc gamer, etc. etc. guides, tier lists, and build walkthroughs. The only people you should blame are the people who have no self-control to just not read guides and experience the game for what it is. If they read guides and complain how the guides ruined the game for them, that's a them problem. Fuck policing information.

[@AchillesMele]

That's his MO isn't it? I doubt this was a miscommunication and more of a, let's get in the algo early. I was searching tags and noticed a LOT of fextralife, obviously didn't bother checking why. I assumed he was doing the same old shit. And then I saw this video :D

[@TehParismio]

​@AchillesMele it was miscommunication cause GGG said they messed up miscommunication.

[@bradencluster4739]

I hate when the media gets to play the game before the rest of us. Let us all discover the game at the same time.

[@Blockdigit]

Imagine if that happened for Dragon Age the Veilguard release lol.

[@reszolve3685]

You know what’s crazy about this whole thing nothing ever gets ruined for me unless I go looking for it. No video game reviews ,no movie reviews if I don’t want to know, I don’t look.

[@PherPhur]

You don't have to have a personal grudge against him, we do.

[@TehParismio]

For what?

[@Blockdigit]

Their "personal" grudge are from their favorite streamers lmao.

[@xTazerTx]

It's funny to hear that rax dm and especially could make a top build not that I don't like them it's just that they re still learning the game so there is no way that they can come up with the kinda tech that Rue Ben or even Jung could

[@jurriaandejongh8677]

Good vid Force. Even more hyped now!

[@gdoggcasey]

Great video. I actually fell for the hate train on Fextralife a bit on twitter since they have a bit of a reputation for living on the edge of the boundaries of what is fair and ethical. I saw the GGG tweet but didn't even read it fully lol. Always good to get the full story and catch instances where I could have been more thorough myself before jumping to conclusions.

[@VortexHaze]

I was watching for a good bit then at like 7:54 I had to do a double take was like wait wth happened to his hair all of a sudden. Lol, was a good little way to get me to comment even if by accident. Great video so far!

[@kignister]

This guy is an excellent communicator! Good video, as always.

[@TheBasedBalkan]

Can anyone tell me if this game will have story cutscenes and what not? I’ve never played a game like this and can’t wait to dive in

[@TMilla0-b8e]

Yes... but they won't be in early access. At least not right away. They did already release a really cool opening cutscene already if you haven't seen it.

[@landogarner2007]

@Force did a tornado blow thru your room? You're hair went from normal to crazy wind blown between one cutaway to the next at 7:57 :D

[@RobMetal-ie5hd]

In the footage your showing at 8:08. The staff user on screen there, is that the witch class? The animation attacks look crazy good.

[@GGHF]

I picked the PERFECT time to get addicted to Path of Exile 1, because I have the second game to look forward to immediately after. As a Torchlight fan, and as someone who recently beat Diablo III on Switch, I cannot wait for Path of Exile 2 to come out in it's completed form.

[@BoomTag]

GGG could potentially take the lead here and upload small chunk videos that: Explain how crafting works, how you upgrade, how you (could) navigate the talent tree and the trees that show up later on that make you specialize into certain mechanics that you prefer. Just like they do MTX videos or any for that matter.

[@neliiinhu]

Why isnt anyone talking about the fact that the game is being monetized twice? 30 bucks ea + fully fledged f2p model ? Do they get a free pass to monetize the game twice because its a good game?

[@4_my_ambition]

I love your work and you should do what your heart tells you. You’re gonna do great!

[@_Titanium_]

Just why on earth did they need to give review copies...FOR THE EARLY ACCESS? The whole point of EA is for people who know what they are getting into to test it out and inform people who are unsure.

[@Perpurple]

Good video, people need to hear this.

[@theimmoralcookie]

Been watching since magic the gathering fridays. Love you Force!

[@Mortacxo]

Correction on you good sir in the video, you are only able to play the first 3 acts,(anf then repeat them on harder difficulty) there are 6 acts total. Also its smart to use the system if its there.

[@MarigoldAW]

Appreciate the level headed response to this situation.

[@brandonboothroyd240]

Hearing the gameplay is good on controller, is fantastic. I'm still gonna try plugging in MnK into my Xbox but it didn't work when I tried playing POE earlier this year so I don't expect it to be possible during early access at least.

[@dsinemoi1mouton]

View farming is real. Even if I'm enjoying it, I can't help but notice that every youtuber out there has to make a video every day, addressing any remotely "fresh" topic about the game. Good content btw, thank you and keep it up :P

[@danksims3457]

I just don’t see the issue with review codes if you don’t want to spoil anything don’t watch the video. It makes so much sense for a developer to give codes to promote and hype the content it’s on the viewer to decide if they want to watch or not.

[@FriedBaconRPG]

I dont always like ads, but when i do, oh boy, looking forward for that light of motiram

[@jf2849]

Yeah early access is early access a week sooner doesn’t matter. All early access is a major spoiler and ruins the discovery for the rest of us a lot of people don’t want to play early access they like to wait for the game to fully release. I’d argue to do away with spoilers there should probably be no more early access if the developers are that worry about it. I’m convinced the streamers look for drama just to give them something to make a video about. When there’s ridiculous drama for no reason it makes us older players feel like the entire ARPG community is full of immature children.

[@deliriumstatus1333]

The problem isn't that media has early access. It's the fact that it was given to this specific media source. They are kwon scammers. They released a review early which to my understanding didn't have any spoilers. GGG then made the post about how there was a misunderstanding, then Fextralife posted a guide/walkthrough full of spoilers even though the GGG tweet mentioned that the media early access was to not be used for the creation of guides/walkthroughs.

[@Bottlekap]

The thing a lot of Fextralife apologists seem to be overlooking is the fact that in that very GGG post, they state "They may share their opinions of the game but are not allowed to produce “guide” style content from this version that would spoil the discovery of the game or post unedited playthroughs". So put the embargo aside, that's not even the real issue. The issue is that they already have the skeleton of their guides up (which they already posted but took down presumably to post on Friday) ready to post is the problem. They specifically state that guide style content using THAT VERSION OF THE GAME is prohibited. So, if those guides go up its not only scummy but against the rules. This is all compounded by the fact that especially in the ARPG community Fextralife has a very poor reputation to begin with. Their wiki for most ARPGS have always been exponentially poor or inaccurate and barebones, obvious funnels for their embedded streams. This is NOT to say Fextralife wiki is always bad, some of their wikis are high quality. Though I disagree with their practices some of their content is actually good. This has NEVER been the case for ARPGs as a whole though, as these are ALWAYS filled with ads, poor quality, inaccurate, and obvious pages up for the sole purpose of inflating streaming numbers. So, everyone saying "well just don't look at it then? duhhhh..." are missing a fairly large part of the problem/point.

[@sengklinge]

i don't think anyone has a problem with publications like ign getting an offline version for reviews. most people just have a problem with someone like fextralife that actively produces builds and guides for the game to get such a version of the game, which also implied that other people that produce guides got early access and that is very against most players stance on going into poe2 mostly blind. also there are some people missunderstanding that those version are offline and not connected to the actual early access version everyone will get access too

[@Xsmith44]

I wish people would realize that fextralifes guide will be used as an advantage in the race now that other people have seen it. it’s probably been screenshot it and will pop up again before launch.

[@Shadaux]

Cool insights Force. The idea of it being outsourced to a marketing company that saw Fextralife web traffic and sent the code makes sense. The 6 day early is weird tho, hard to explain that as a typo or w/e

[@Anima0x1]

Defending a dead on arrival low-effort asset flip? How much did GGG pay you?

[@CastisV]

I feel like if people just didn't look stuff up, they wouldn't have anything spoiled....is that too hard for people to figure out?

[@TheFrancoBona]

GGG said that the embargo would lift "on December release" and Fextra made the interpretation of that meaning December 1st (release of the month, not the game).

[@LORDSMOKE1]

Why is there still no damage numbers? I love numbers for damage!

[@Will-zt9xz]

This is why Deadlock has me hooked. Its still being developed and has much potential for discovery. I hope this will be the case with poe 2 because i would like to take my streaming to better level with an audience that im actually a part of and its growth.

[@grizzlydynamics]

First time ever the video sponsor actually looks dope! On a PoE2 video. Can‘t get better than this👌🏽

[@daveguy54]

Excellent video! Force has cut through this "drama" which I agree is overblown. Has also provided background context without bias (imo) as to why it's such a drama. Personally, as someone who does not enjoy Fextralife content, I found 14:20 to be delightfully savage without any obvious malice, just opinion based on historical facts. The truth hurts. While Quinn & others may continue to be upset for GGG's 'transgression' in this instance, hopefully the number of poor exiles subject Fextralife's slop rapidly diminishes as it becomes buried with better POE2 content within days of early-access release.

[@jamh666init]

How do I pre order it on my PS5 ? Doesn’t give me the option and it’s out on Friday 😢

[@kevcole3333]

as challenging as dark souls or elden ring? i would think a lot of peeps would not like that. some dudes wanna jam and grind but not keep dying every time to the same boss.

[@robertwarner1514]

As someone new to the PoE community, I've never seen someone universally disliked like fextralife, it's bizarre. Need to read up more about them, are they really that bad?

[@smoothice1125]

Fextralife shouldn't have started making GUIDE material before release the fact that he got an early copy isn't my problem. I'm just happy the game is good :)

[@Reelix]

He was just the first. Many others have followed :/

[@mechaslav8520]

It looks like all the classes can wear pants, this is truly a milestone for PoE

[@deliriumstatus1333]

Most of the hate towards Fextralife over this is coming from the fact that they posted a walkthrough/guide which was full of spoilers about the skill tree, bosses and story. To be clear, the walkthrough/guide is something separate from the review(the GGG post was about the review being posted early, not the guide). It even says in the GGG tweet where they tried to take accountability for the review being released early that the media early access was not to be used for the CREATION of walkthroughs/guides. This is why I'm not convinced that they are innocent in breaking the embargo when it comes to releasing a review early. They are known scammers who do anything to get views they can monetize. I wouldn't be surprised if they found a way they could intentionally "misunderstand" the embargo just to release content early. Anyone who believes the review was posted in good faith is delusional if you ask me. The only site to break embargo is the one run by known scammers and it wasn't their fault? Ya right. GGG is probably just taking blame because they are too nice and want to apologize for it ruining people's experience.

[@Generic_One]

Another issue is poe has a long history of being very complex so much so thats its arguably the biggest barrier to entry and while poe2 seems to have streamlined a lot of that complexity while still keeping it deep for fextralify a known poster of out right wrong information just for the sake of being the first to post it scares the current poe community because they want more people to play the game and if fexralife is posting bad information on a game as complex as poe lt gonna confuse new players and they are gonna look over poe2 but since there is a week delay on guides for people that got review copies this will be mitigated and people like pob and other sites will have pretty accurate info already

[@DanVann1]

14:21 this is bang on the money. Anyone that properly engaged with PoE 1s late endgame will understand that actual useful info that goes into competitive endgame builds is not something that this guy will come up with after 40 hours. The galaxy brained players and full time PoE streamers come up with the mad shit after exploring the tree, ascendencies, unique pool, and finding crazy synergies.

[@STROOPWAFFELgg]

So it’s $30 on dec 6th or it’s going F2P on the 6th? I’m confused

[@deekaysky]

With the recent gaming industry attacking the player base at every turn, it’s refreshing to see a company defending someone and admitting blame. They earned my support

[@QanarIsDelirious]

you are correct about the skill of fextra ^^ poe is a different shoe and one of the most complicated that will ever exist, no guide of him can beat the sweaty arpg nerds

[@michaeldockham9294]

So you are recapping a review? Awesome content.

[@RocksonPlaysGames]

My biggest issue with PoE was respecing your character being such a pain for new players making it likely you ruin your character unless following a KZbin guide. If they fixed that, then I'm going all in for sure.

[@Thrylos14]

Guides, end game builds etc etc is inevitable to happen. Such videos are going to attract much attention, like is always the case. People like to feel that they are not doing mistakes or go the wrong way, so to speak. But those that want to discover the game in their own pace, can simply close YT, don't click on those videos. I think it is not the youtubers' fault, it's in the discretion of each person.

[@jackeriksen6753]

Could be true, but honestly in my opinion I don't see it beyond Fextralife to do a switch and bait on the NDA signature based on their current reputation. You have no idea how many that tries to return documents unsigned for their own benefit.

[@rivtekk]

As a smaller creator who does guide style content, while I understand the purpose of preview copies, it’s massively annoying to be at a disadvantage to other creators who get an extra two weeks with the game.

[@SubSonicsPixelators]

Honestly so hyped. One of my favourites back in the day was boulders gate dark alliance series and obviously titan quest

[@kunafox]

GGG already solved a minor personal gripe of not explaining their game mechanics ingame. Similar to BG3/Larian, GGG added explanations and descriptions all across the items/stats/passives/etc that would likely populate a wiki. Wikis can be even more detailed or add community opinions to enrich itself, but the game should explain itself for the majority. This only solidified my respect and grateful to GGG and how they currently approach to addressing issues that others would deem unnecessary.

[@NameNotAChannel]

I can see why people would be upset with this, given they really don't need early access reviews for a successful launch. They've got a pretty sizable playerbase ready and waiting for them, through PoE1. I am no longer a player of PoE, and nothing I have seen has addressed any of the issues I had with the game, so I don't care one way or the other what happen-s/ed here. I do recall one of the big things in PoE being races and the starts of new leagues, full of 1sts. This sort of early access goes against the purity of people finding out about the game and their path to those 1sts... even if those given the early access wouldn't even be contenders against the people who will still be getting those 1sts without the early access.

[@PatPanton-h3i]

The biggest problem that i can see is that GGG have effectively allowed an early revuew to hype the game ( fair from a money making stand ) but have already admitted that the servers will struggle because it has seen way more interest than anticipated. I anticipate that launch day will break records for sales/ potential players. But i wait for the negative steam reviews because of server issues.