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@zBrain0
@zBrain0 10 ай бұрын
I totally believe the story. The part he left out is he nicknamed stockfish "rice cooker"
@happy_sanity
@happy_sanity 9 ай бұрын
This comment is gold
@AntoineDennison
@AntoineDennison 9 ай бұрын
*LOL!*
@jaikaransingh2303
@jaikaransingh2303 9 ай бұрын
Cook your opponents along with your rice
@adamizz-warith1540
@adamizz-warith1540 8 ай бұрын
💀
@user-ij1nx4jm7x
@user-ij1nx4jm7x 6 ай бұрын
what?@@jaikaransingh2303
@the_dark_one6052
@the_dark_one6052 10 ай бұрын
Nelson: Let's play chess Galadriel: Let's cook!
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 10 ай бұрын
Let him cook
@lexnder
@lexnder 10 ай бұрын
Let him cook now
@eviekai
@eviekai 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@danielyuan9862so many layers to this 😂 Good job
@pimhuisman646
@pimhuisman646 10 ай бұрын
Very time-consuming to cook rice 😂
@youaremysunshine.1
@youaremysunshine.1 10 ай бұрын
who let him cook
@DavidPNeff
@DavidPNeff 10 ай бұрын
The one thing that seems odd to me is that if you really thought you blundered a pawn wouldn't you spend more than 12 seconds on the next move?
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 10 ай бұрын
Cooking rice yo
@DavidPNeff
@DavidPNeff 10 ай бұрын
@@cygnustsp "I thought I blundered a pawn but while I was cooking rice I found a beautiful brilliant follow up move in 12 seconds."
@hellohello2582
@hellohello2582 10 ай бұрын
He spent 30 seconds on the move after that he spent 12 seconds on the after he sacrificed the knight
@ginongjianrogel649
@ginongjianrogel649 10 ай бұрын
​@@DavidPNeffguys it's normal to multi task, I myself have some experience as I am in a strict family and need to clean the house everyday, therefore when I want to play while cleaning I play chess
@ginongjianrogel649
@ginongjianrogel649 10 ай бұрын
If y'all think I'm that guy pretending to be someone else I am 1000 rated named iam_12andiplaychessforfun and I live in the phillipines
@dabssssallday3111
@dabssssallday3111 10 ай бұрын
He was turning on the rice cooker I was dead😂😂😂
@woshinideaihao
@woshinideaihao 10 ай бұрын
same 🤣
@carlbox5130
@carlbox5130 10 ай бұрын
Taking down a NM does give you the munchies 😂
@RMF49
@RMF49 10 ай бұрын
Fish and rice
@kingrex1931
@kingrex1931 10 ай бұрын
He must have made two pots of rice because he took just as long to take the queen with BxD7 as he did to play Bxb5+ and Nb5.
@dabssssallday3111
@dabssssallday3111 10 ай бұрын
@@kingrex1931 🤣
@MrOnosa
@MrOnosa 10 ай бұрын
My advice is to never publicly accuse or hint at someone being a cheater while live streaming. You cannot control the actions of what your viewers will do in their vain attempt at social justice or whatever. With edited videos, you can curate the message that you want to send, sort of like you did with this one. Good luck, thank you for addressing it head on. I bet it'll be a distant memory and under a week.
@DanielSong39
@DanielSong39 10 ай бұрын
Nah it's OK to say that you suspect someone of cheating and report the person Then laugh it off and move on to the next game
@fahmiluthfi7991
@fahmiluthfi7991 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, i always like Naroditsky way of handling cheater, he just say his opponent was way "underrated" then archiving the game for evidence and report them. lol, but he always make a point that his opponent also could have the best game of their life, and tell the viewer not to accuse them of "cheating". unless it was so blatant and he just laugh.
@almondmagnum8604
@almondmagnum8604 10 ай бұрын
"I bet it'll be a distant memory and under a week." For Nelson and his viewers, sure. It could also be why Galadriel97 swears off chess.
@AhimtarHoN
@AhimtarHoN 10 ай бұрын
@@almondmagnum8604 To be fair, if you had such a good game you were considered cheating, it is also kind of motivational
@kbutler0615
@kbutler0615 10 ай бұрын
Good thing no one asked for your advice
@isakoolsson
@isakoolsson 10 ай бұрын
For me the most suspicious thing is not that he found the Nb5, but that he did that as well as playing almost perfect both in opening, midgame as well as endgame.
@astlinj
@astlinj 10 ай бұрын
perfect chess is equal to cheating?
@isakoolsson
@isakoolsson 10 ай бұрын
@@astlinj if you are 1500 and play like 2300, yes. Playing perfect against someone who blunders isn't that difficult, but against someone who is 2500 and to do it the entire game... 🧐
@MurunGD
@MurunGD 10 ай бұрын
​@@astlinj It is when your opponent is almost 1000 rated higher than you
@isakoolsson
@isakoolsson 10 ай бұрын
@@astlinj If you have followed his rating climb series you would notice that every player he played against before did a few mistakes each game. People around 1200-1500 are usually strong at some or most moments of the game, but to play almost perfect in every part of the game is very unlikely. 93% accuracy against someone who is 1000 higher rating than you is very suspicious
@come.inside.me.join.now.
@come.inside.me.join.now. 10 ай бұрын
@@isakoolsson So right bro 👍
@Overkill9991
@Overkill9991 10 ай бұрын
If he did cheat during your game you could check some of his other games. But to me that Nb5 idea does seem a bit suspicious. He did spend about 15 seconds on that move and then spent 12 seconds does seem very suspicious. When you sacrifice a piece like that you need to be 100% certain that the sacrifice works the first time around.
@davidshatto7604
@davidshatto7604 10 ай бұрын
Yes exactly. As a 1400 I think that move was probably beyond my ability to find, and if I somehow managed to spot it I certainly would have spent longer thinking about it
@realteamwall
@realteamwall 10 ай бұрын
im 1150 i dont think i would have found that move but i think anyone over 1000 has a decent chance of finding it
@BoomSki-pn9lb
@BoomSki-pn9lb 10 ай бұрын
15 seconds on brilliant move isnt that bad in this case since theres not much to calculate because all you need to do is look out for is checks and captures which black didnt have much of, so all you need to do is quickly scan for them and if nothing bad happens then play your brilliant move. So i dont see how you cant be 100% certain after 15 seconds
@davidshatto7604
@davidshatto7604 10 ай бұрын
@@BoomSki-pn9lb well it’s because your opponent isn’t required to take the knight. As a 1400 myself I would feel compelled to calculate all moves other other than cxb5 before I felt comfortable playing that move. The queen has a check for example, and while it isn’t good I would need to calculate that to verify
@Cthuski
@Cthuski 10 ай бұрын
​@@BoomSki-pn9lbit's the fact that the bishop move after the knight move also took 12 seconds is suspicious. You don't make that knight sacrifice without already planning to check with the bishop
@jrhenry24
@jrhenry24 10 ай бұрын
I love Columbo. One of the best shows of all time, anyone who has never seen it needs to give an episode a try. They are all the same yet all different. If this was his case he would do demonstration in front of the accused. Columbo would sit down in a game of chess with the accused. He would have a rice cooker set up in the corner. He would make the brilliant move. Then he would get up and turn on his rice cooker and come back and immediately make the move after sitting down like a normal person. He would look at his watch and say “ah 25 seconds have passed, where has all the time gone?”
@l.s.584
@l.s.584 10 ай бұрын
"I just have one more question..."
@JoeriBlomberg
@JoeriBlomberg 10 ай бұрын
That's a funny comment!
@watchmanknowledge4345
@watchmanknowledge4345 10 ай бұрын
It is sad that people need to be told to not be jerks. If a player cheats, they will be caught, but assuming someone is cheating does not give others the right to act like fools.
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 10 ай бұрын
Even if they are cheating, you shouldn't act like fools.
@daviddorough2039
@daviddorough2039 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. Nelson should pin this comment.
@rkgrkg
@rkgrkg 10 ай бұрын
Yes, agreed! I was going to post a similar comment.
@WeWereEatingRotisserieChicken
@WeWereEatingRotisserieChicken 10 ай бұрын
Which is the point that almost every other commenter seem to be ignoring.
@jordanthomas8542
@jordanthomas8542 10 ай бұрын
Bro be cooking up the rice cooker gambit
@Shaun_GTI
@Shaun_GTI 10 ай бұрын
I'm with you Nelson. Easy to backstory with all the moves completed.
@bassboosted4025
@bassboosted4025 10 ай бұрын
It's highly likely he did cheat indeed, just from looking at his account.
@Rebellion83
@Rebellion83 8 ай бұрын
He could of easily faked being a teacher
@fhs4137
@fhs4137 10 ай бұрын
My #1 takeaway from this is, if it is true, it's really sweet that his teacher took the time out to write this email. Reminds me of the way my basketball coach in high school was looking out for us, he was a real stand up guy and one of my biggest rolemodels to this day.
@kingrex1931
@kingrex1931 10 ай бұрын
Or it could be the cheater pretending to be a teacher.
@googlewhackthis
@googlewhackthis 9 ай бұрын
@@kingrex1931 I suppose teacher is an anagram for cheater. Keyser Soze stuff.
@kingrex1931
@kingrex1931 9 ай бұрын
@@googlewhackthis There is too much evidence that shows the guy was cheating. He took the same amount of time to do the critical move as he did the two obvious follow ups. He also had a massive raise in his accuracy rate in his last six games as of this video posting than what he previously had. Do you think that all of the sudden he went from a 1500 level player to a 2000 level player? This is why I doubt it was an actual teacher, unless he just told the teacher what happened without showing the video. Anyone looking at all the evidence would draw the conclusion that the player was cheating.
@kingrex1931
@kingrex1931 9 ай бұрын
@@googlewhackthis Teacher and Cheater are anagrams of one another. Anagrams have nothing to do with the meaning of the words, they just have the same letters in a different order.
@googlewhackthis
@googlewhackthis 9 ай бұрын
@@kingrex1931 I was literally just making a crap joke.
@Road2Med
@Road2Med 10 ай бұрын
That’s 100% him pretending to be a teacher ahahaha
@lucasbertoldo4932
@lucasbertoldo4932 10 ай бұрын
Also thought so, but you can actually google the sender's name and find a real chess player
@dessguy7199
@dessguy7199 10 ай бұрын
@@lucasbertoldo4932then it will be easy to confirm, if it really was him
@tiletapper4ever
@tiletapper4ever 10 ай бұрын
Maybe 99.9%, but not 100%. We cannot be sure for anything. The best we can do is wait for a good explanation, so we are able to believe that no cheating was included, or maybe a confession of the played that they did cheat.
@brunomaelstrom8823
@brunomaelstrom8823 10 ай бұрын
Exactly my immediate diagnostic …
@etrestre9403
@etrestre9403 10 ай бұрын
No, actually Google the person... It's a real person. Way to project
@afabian2
@afabian2 10 ай бұрын
As a slow thinker, my strength goes up way more than you would expect on longer time controls, so I can relate to having disproportionately low blitz strength. The suspicious maneuver looks like something a 1500 could do, nothing too strange about that. 1500 is really uneven terrain. Like, you get games with high accuracy, but sometimes, you just make a bad move. If you get lucky, then maybe you just don't make a bad move in some particular game. It seems like a reasonable report in good conscience, and I don't think a single report should get someone shut down for cheating unless it's 100% certain, so it all seems above board to report something suspicious.
@deinauge7894
@deinauge7894 10 ай бұрын
Yep. I still win most of my rapid games at almost 1400, but struggle at 700 in bullet and at 1100 in blitz. It's a totally different skill to find great tactics than to see easy blunders fast. And I also play mostly blitz btw.
@pommedemer1922
@pommedemer1922 10 ай бұрын
Just to be clear, any 1500 would get smashed by any random player above 2000 in any time format, thats why the suspicion is more than justified
@deinauge7894
@deinauge7894 10 ай бұрын
@@pommedemer1922 suspicions may be justified, conclusions aren't. And don't forget, he lost to one 2-move tactic
@RadishAcceptable
@RadishAcceptable 10 ай бұрын
Yup... I dance between 1450 and 1550 and my accuracy is usually in the high 80, low 90s, but sometimes I blunder something stupid for no reason and then the game is in the 70s through 80s... I think my highest accuracy ever was something like 95 or 96, but it was an easy game where my opponent blundered a piece early in an opening I knew. This game looks pretty normal to me, to be honest. The only thing suspicious is the 12 second delay on the recapture, but I've also just paused for a bit after making what I think is a good move to make absolutely sure I'm not missing something stupidly obvious as I'll get excited and lose focus.
@KapaMi72
@KapaMi72 10 ай бұрын
​@@pommedemer1922well it's not impossible for a 1500 to win a 2000+ player in one game. It's just very improbable and the possibility of that happening is about 1%. Since Nelson is playing so many games and his opponents get stronger game by game, the logic says that he is not going to win every game.
@JamesWanders
@JamesWanders 10 ай бұрын
I kind of figured something like this would happen whenever you lost your first match of the climb. i.e. you'd either run into an actual cheater or someone would get lucky enough not to make those "one or two mistakes" 1400s typically make. Unfortunately in a game like this those two are indistinguishable.
@christopherheckman7957
@christopherheckman7957 10 ай бұрын
The fact that Nelson made blunders in his two previous games and the players picked up on them means he's playing a better caliber of player, and eventually he will lose. It was kind of to be expected.
@vctrsigma
@vctrsigma 10 ай бұрын
He did specifcially point out it was the combination of both the regular cadence, someone using similar analysis times for very unequal positions, and the caliber of a number of the moves being used which made it seem suspicious, not just that the person didn't make any blunders. Having just found this speed run and watched most of it very recently, this game definitely was developing very oddly even prior to the Nb5 move.
@MinotaurvsCyclops
@MinotaurvsCyclops 9 ай бұрын
@@christopherheckman7957 to be fair to Nelson he's 2200 rated when he's actually playing chess when he's livestreaming and explaining every move to his viewers I'm sure his level drops hence the blunders.
@christopherheckman7957
@christopherheckman7957 9 ай бұрын
@@MinotaurvsCyclops It's irrelevant what his rating is. He's now playing better players, which means he's more likely to lose if he blunders.
@Oscar-mi7yi
@Oscar-mi7yi 10 ай бұрын
Hahaha not only did he play a GM level move, he did it while cooking rice. This guy is a prodigy
@justusschoenmakers8987
@justusschoenmakers8987 10 ай бұрын
The move was really not that hard to find. Is saw that the pawn is pinned sort of and look a ways to exploit that.
@christopherheckman7957
@christopherheckman7957 10 ай бұрын
@@justusschoenmakers8987 His mind appears to think in terms of patterns, which I'm told is how the greats think. Putting together that pattern with some opening preparation means this guy is GOOOOD. (Of course, assuming he's not cheating.)
@ManosErikosKlapsakis
@ManosErikosKlapsakis 10 ай бұрын
also this is a red flag (but, ok, I think maybe he is that strong at chess, the only think that i'm not 100% sure) .
@come.inside.me.join.now.
@come.inside.me.join.now. 10 ай бұрын
@@blitzy3244 chinese pretendin German 🤯
@afj810
@afj810 10 ай бұрын
@@blitzy3244 university student eating rice; plausible. (also small living space -> easily accessible rice cooker)
@Flane4
@Flane4 10 ай бұрын
I'd really recommend blurring the email address of the friend that sent you the email. Just extra precautions for people to not go harass further. Despite your good intentions, people are silly. Good to hear the thoughts and explanations behind everything. Keep up the cozy vibes!
@GoofyManMF
@GoofyManMF 10 ай бұрын
Definitely.
@gumerovi
@gumerovi 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Moreover, I think you should take down this video. Showing email of the person who messaged you privately is a big No No
@christopherheckman7957
@christopherheckman7957 10 ай бұрын
@@gumerovi All he'd have to do is use something like iMovie to block out the email. But it's been posted, so more damage has been done. 8-(
@glazedyeti2993
@glazedyeti2993 10 ай бұрын
If you watch to the end they permit Nelson to freely show the email. My first reaction was the same but this person seems ready for whatever might come their way
@christopherheckman7957
@christopherheckman7957 10 ай бұрын
Also, at the very end of the video, the teacher (Weinkauf) says it's okay to show his email address in a video.
@awang_ir
@awang_ir 10 ай бұрын
It's funny that we got no screenshot attached about "subscriber harassment messages" in the email yet we still got a clear description about rice cooking stuff
@afj810
@afj810 10 ай бұрын
it's a given with a creator as big as chess vibes is
@ExImpostor
@ExImpostor 10 ай бұрын
Don't worry about that Nelson you are a very special chess teacher and thats most counts.. After all a 154 winning streak is not bad at all.. Just keep up your excellent job!!!
@worgenzwithm14z
@worgenzwithm14z 10 ай бұрын
When I'm cooking rice, my elo goes up to 3100 idk why Then I get accused of cheating, and I'm just like "bro, I was cooking rice, chill"
@timtitus1956
@timtitus1956 10 ай бұрын
I have never heard a professor call a student "a friend of mine". That seems a bit of an odd way to introduce them. "Galadriel is a student of mine" would be standard
@iudqnolq7658
@iudqnolq7658 10 ай бұрын
FYI in the university I attended, students can go through some processes to apply to become an instructor of 1 credit pass/fail class (that does not satisfy any graduation requirement).
@HolySoliDeoGloria
@HolySoliDeoGloria 10 ай бұрын
That doesn't sound strange to me. First, from the diction (often awkward, imperfect grammar and usage) of the e-mail, it sounds like English is not the primary language of Viktor and the professor, so you can't expect the same level of nuance and understanding of word usage as you would from native English speakers. Second, it sounds like the professor is running a chess program that is not a formal class, so they don't have a normal teacher-student relationship, but rather more of a collegial relationship. Third, because of the language issue and simply because we don't have all the facts (e.g., is Viktor a regular student or an older, part-time student, maybe as old as the teacher?), we really don't know what terminology (translated into English, with errors) makes sense to Viktor and his teacher in their context and culture.
@Cyberangel39
@Cyberangel39 10 ай бұрын
I'm the guy who sent the E-Mail and I'm not a professor LOL. I'm just a regular student who happens to be fairly good at chess and I'm teaching chess at the university. Just google 'Viktor Weinkauf RWTH Aachen' and you will find some proof (can't link it here because YT won't show my comment...)
@Cyberangel39
@Cyberangel39 10 ай бұрын
'm the guy who sent the E-Mail and I'm not a professor LOL. I'm just a regular student who happens to be fairly good at chess and I'm teaching chess at the university. Just google my name and you will see that I'm legit :)
@user-xc4mg3pc5c
@user-xc4mg3pc5c 10 ай бұрын
Very good point IMO! Never thought of that until reading your comment. Teacher's at any level of schooling would never use the friend when talking about a student. Very good observation!
@jelv.4142
@jelv.4142 10 ай бұрын
I don't cook when I play chess, that's preposterous. I file my taxes while I play.
@williammcguire3426
@williammcguire3426 10 ай бұрын
Don't worry about it. This too will pass... you can only control what you do, not others. Don't waste your present by worrying about the past. The truth is we'll never know, so, move on and keep smiling. You're a wonderful teacher. You are extremely clear in what you teach. Chin up, head up... and carry on regardless. Truth is in a year or two you'll be going " Galadriel who? " Forget about it!!!
@khy6330
@khy6330 10 ай бұрын
She was a character in J.R.R. Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings" right? 😂
@williammcguire3426
@williammcguire3426 10 ай бұрын
@@khy6330 yeah, I think she was an elf or something like that. She could look into a watery mirror and see if you were cheating or not!!!
@multiverse737
@multiverse737 10 ай бұрын
@williammcguire3426 I really like the wise message to Nelson. Actually, your message is quite universal which I will also try to remember. I guess another way of saying it is don't waste your mental and emotional energy about the past or future at the expense of the present. The cost of regret is expensive. I like Nelson's teaching style, the way he communicates as well as his personality. In fact, sometimes I'll watch his videos to destress. That's pretty powerful if all you're trying to do is teach chess, but someone can get a chess lesson plus something actually more valuable than a chess lesson, which is positively affecting one's mood. Nelson has been a blessing to me. Thanks Nelson, you're awesome!
@DanielSong39
@DanielSong39 10 ай бұрын
He was more upset in this video than he was in the livestream He was chill really, a couple of chuckles and it was off to the next game Maybe Magnus and Hikaru should take the same advice (LOL)
@williammcguire3426
@williammcguire3426 10 ай бұрын
@@DanielSong39 yeah I agree. I watched the game live and after knight b5 Nelson did get a bit suspicious and actually checked his opponents stats... but remained chilled. But " rice cookers " and two long delays before executing the brilliancy....hmm...I personally think Nelson has every reason to be suspicious... He remained cooler than I would... lol! No matter what, I think Nelson is one of the better teachers of chess out there. An all around " good guy "...hope he moves on from this soon.
@bradsmart6439
@bradsmart6439 10 ай бұрын
Magus: hates butt plus Anna: hates lipstick Nelson: hates rice cookers
@Tetracontakaitetragon
@Tetracontakaitetragon 10 ай бұрын
magus sus
@l.s.584
@l.s.584 10 ай бұрын
Lmao😂
@supersayan6318
@supersayan6318 10 ай бұрын
Magus was cheated on by butt beads Anna was accused of cheating with a lipstick Nelson was cheated on by a rice cooker I don't think Anna would hate lipsticks.
@DevilishlyDutch
@DevilishlyDutch 10 ай бұрын
As a slow player it's not strange to me to struggle moving up in blitz, sometimes it's not even about having less time to think but about the panic you feel from having that additional time pressure to begin with
@christianfrost8660
@christianfrost8660 8 ай бұрын
I feel that. Somehow losing is less scary via checkmate than it is by being timed out.
@arthurrtang9670
@arthurrtang9670 10 ай бұрын
Someone mentioned it, but it would be a good idea to blur out who sent the email. There could be people wanting to also harass that person too, besides the opponent (I know right?). Anyhow, I've forgotten about this small drama, just looking at this video I am still suspecious, and don't think the opponent is entirely in the clear, but I am going to drop it because it is a waste to keep thinking about it. It's time to move from that.
@kshitiz6376
@kshitiz6376 10 ай бұрын
I'd like some actual proof of "harassment". Just some people messaging you asking "why did you cheat?" is not what qualifies as harassment. Not in my book.
@arthurrtang9670
@arthurrtang9670 10 ай бұрын
@@kshitiz6376 I don't have proof, and am only basing off what was said in the video. The thing is, while you didn't intend to and just politely asked, the words "why did you cheat" can be interpreted differently (as in could be viewed as a threat).
@kshitiz6376
@kshitiz6376 10 ай бұрын
@@arthurrtang9670 Fair enough. There's no emotional context in text messages so even harmless messages can seem to be rude/impolite/threatening.
@lucaskloosterman3016
@lucaskloosterman3016 10 ай бұрын
@@kshitiz6376 clown
@felicityc
@felicityc 9 ай бұрын
​@@kshitiz6376 having a bunch of random people message you over something they are not involved with at all is definitely harassment and choices made can expediate or slow it
@mathematicsreadinggroup7288
@mathematicsreadinggroup7288 10 ай бұрын
I teach chess at a university! It's a 1 credit class, it counts as math (but since it's only 1 credit, it's not going to be enough to satisfy most requirements other than raw credit count), and we focus mostly on endings and techniques for analyzing them. I do give the kids time to play each other and we sometimes go over the games together, if there's time.
@JamesWanders
@JamesWanders 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, a lot of things get "taught" on a university campus that aren't even for 1 credit. Most of them are less legal than Chess, but I wasn't clear from the email that it was a course not just a club.
@thenextgeneration9030
@thenextgeneration9030 10 ай бұрын
pretty interesting to know it counts as a math course, very nice 😎😎
@oldsuitman7762
@oldsuitman7762 10 ай бұрын
Do they also teach a course in basketweaving?
@afj810
@afj810 10 ай бұрын
​@@thenextgeneration9030 makes sense; lots of logic and pattern recognition involved. Could also be used to teach several applicable aspects of graph theory.
@jaideepshekhar4621
@jaideepshekhar4621 10 ай бұрын
@@JamesWanders Are you the person who sent the mail?
@robertandstein56
@robertandstein56 10 ай бұрын
Keep on rockin' Dude...I enjoy watching and learning.
@BuildChamp
@BuildChamp 10 ай бұрын
Nelson, you should reupload the video and censor the professor's email address in post. It is visible at 5:24.
@Maxi-ez6bv
@Maxi-ez6bv 10 ай бұрын
His rice cooker told him the moves
@DrEMichaelJones
@DrEMichaelJones 10 ай бұрын
Why didn't Galadriel email you himself? Can the teacher prove he's a teacher? What "University" teaches chess courses?
@tianyuguan8939
@tianyuguan8939 10 ай бұрын
If he sent the email himself he will not have anyone to back him up so he asked his teach
@spklife4001
@spklife4001 10 ай бұрын
It's the teacher's responsibility for their students, obviously.
@g.i.l.l.e.s
@g.i.l.l.e.s 10 ай бұрын
You might just google that and find the courses he's teaching at the RWTH Aachen (Germany). It seems they are extracurricular sports activities as can be found at any university. Seems quite legit to me!
@AnahiRumak
@AnahiRumak 10 ай бұрын
dang turning on the rice cooker? for something u have 2 hands
@2OO10x
@2OO10x 10 ай бұрын
The rice cooker is a codeword for stockfish😂
@Jouzou87
@Jouzou87 10 ай бұрын
Sushi time!
@mikahamari6420
@mikahamari6420 10 ай бұрын
The letter talks about him as a player in such a way that his ratings should be way above what they are. It doesn't make any sense.
@Gepser
@Gepser 9 ай бұрын
A 1400-1500 with a chess teacher? Damn, that doesn't looks good unless it's their first week together but then the teacher wouldn't send that email.
@eck3483
@eck3483 10 ай бұрын
I tend to play slower games too, and for the past several years never played blitz. You mentioned that he did play a lot of blitz. It's possible he gets into time trouble in blitz and either loses on time or makes critical blinders under pressure and cannot break out of his rating.
@Nathan00at78Uuiu
@Nathan00at78Uuiu 10 ай бұрын
I don't know what to conclude but I definitely want to sign up for that University course. Seems like you learn all the things you need to win games. LOL.
@pimhuisman646
@pimhuisman646 10 ай бұрын
Seems a bit dodgy though with the teacher using a gmail address and calling his pupils "friend".
@supersayan6318
@supersayan6318 10 ай бұрын
The course is a 1 day tutorial on how to insert beads up your @ss.
@mohammadsulieman6213
@mohammadsulieman6213 6 ай бұрын
You need stockfish "rice cooker" edition and your games result will be great. LOL
@realteamwall
@realteamwall 10 ай бұрын
when you did a poll asking when your first loss would be the average vote was around 1350 so i think it is reasonable for your first loss to happen around now
@DanielSong39
@DanielSong39 10 ай бұрын
People did take cheating into account when answering the poll I thought he would lose to someone under 1000 We saw a suspicious 400 and a 800 but it was well disguised My guess is that 10-20% of the games involve cheating but only a small percentage of those are totally blatant. I definitely expected to see more cheating than what I observed during the speedruns By the time Nelson reaches 1800 or so you'll see more and more draws and losses and even 5-10 game winning streaks will be hard to come by
@davefleury2583
@davefleury2583 10 ай бұрын
I didn't think he was cheating yesterday. After this effed up email I am convinced he did.
@TheJoker-rn8zc
@TheJoker-rn8zc 10 ай бұрын
Words cannot express how mad I am that this even happened, Nelson isnt somebody that deserves that
@williamturner9450
@williamturner9450 9 ай бұрын
Worth noting a couple of things. 1.) He hit an accuracy of 93.4&, against a much higher rated opponent. 2.) One thing Levy always says is to look at clock spacing. He was extremely consistent with his timings, and an overwhelming majority of his moves were in the 15 seconds or less range. Only 7 of his 50 moves were above 20 seconds, and 5 more were above 15. That means 38 of his 50 moves were in the
@jaybingham3711
@jaybingham3711 10 ай бұрын
In terms of giving this matter a full fleshing out, I do believe it's highly relevant to note that potent play had already been encountered starting at around 1300. Two games in particular we're fully on track for an L before this one. Don't forget, ratings groups also include those who have fallen back from higher levels (though that doesn't appear to be the case here). I'm at this level and about 5-10% of the time I surprise myself with sussing out strong tactics and near perfect play...mid 90s accuracy and a slash line of say 2/0/0 in a 30, 40 move (or greater) game. Those games end up getting (absurd) c.c ratings estimates...even above 2200. And often that's necessary to just barely get a win given that my opponent ends up with an accuracy stat in the high 80s and a slash of something like 4/1/0. None of that means cheating didn't happen here. But I do think a fair amount of deference has to go toward the guy simply having played a few hundred Elo above norm. That possibility has to be just as likely as having cheated... especially given the fact potent play has already been encountered. That said, those other guys could've been cheating. And make no mistake c.c is beseeched by such crap. A week almost never goes by that I don't end up with a refund.
@user-kj5mx6pu1o
@user-kj5mx6pu1o 10 ай бұрын
The dead giveaway that 'Viktor' is actually Galadrial97 is the random oversharing (rice cooker etc). It's what all liars/cheats/scammers do. A university professor first of all wouldnt get involved in such a petty dispute and if they did, they would do it from a faculty email address and would clarify their curriculum in a paragraph instead of ranting on about rice cookers. Granted, English is probably not their first language but that genuinely reads like it was written by a 14 year old pretending to be their parents and explaining why their homework wasn't submitted. There is no question in my mind that this player used assistance in this game, however its absolutely not OK to harass them. Grow up.
@DIYdoofus
@DIYdoofus 10 ай бұрын
I was going to highlight this. As an educator myself, I would always email using my faculty address to add clout to what I am saying. Sending something from my gmail is super weird.
@Cyberangel39
@Cyberangel39 10 ай бұрын
I'm the guy who sent the email. Just google my name and you will see that I'm a legit 2000 Elo player who teaches chess at university. I'm not Galadriel.
@Cyberangel39
@Cyberangel39 10 ай бұрын
@@DIYdoofus I'm not a professor, just a regular student.
@andretheron8362
@andretheron8362 10 ай бұрын
Really enjoying your videos Nelson, especially this rating climb series and also sharing with my students. Great to see your thought process during games. Thanks! I think you handled this awkward cheater situation very professionally.
@Peenos
@Peenos 10 ай бұрын
I was there for that match and to me it was extremely suspicious... the knight sacrifice on b5 wasn't the suspicious part, it's the fact that after he 'calculated' the sacrifice and the moves afterwards, it still took him over 10 seconds for each move following the initial knight move if you calculate a sacrifice like that, you also calculate the moves that will come after it, meaning you shouldn't need to spend over 10 seconds for the move
@deinauge7894
@deinauge7894 10 ай бұрын
not true. -he did not use the same time for each move -I always check after each move if the tactic still works. 10s is a good amount for that
@jacobsun1564
@jacobsun1564 10 ай бұрын
@@deinauge7894 but there is literally nothing to consider about it. If you go balls to the wall and sacrifice a full piece there is no point in rechecking if the tactic works
@isymbol
@isymbol 10 ай бұрын
When i was 330 and i spend i played 2 brilliant moves and each ine took me 7 secs
@AGHathaway
@AGHathaway 9 ай бұрын
@@jacobsun1564 This is a dumb take.
@AGHathaway
@AGHathaway 9 ай бұрын
@@deinauge7894Me too. It's something I learned from doing puzzles.
@RaJaDamus
@RaJaDamus 10 ай бұрын
E-mail from 'a friend'. LMAO
@afj810
@afj810 10 ай бұрын
students with some seniority in the matter can apply to TA for courses and also, in some universities, apply to teach the courses
@deleteduser8574
@deleteduser8574 10 ай бұрын
"Oh those moves were so obvious" is kinda bogus, this really was just suspicious. Perfectly fine to stay sus, even if it is possible. But if anyone of y'all harassed another person? Come on... This is a game of gentlemen. Harassing is just as, if not worse, than cheating in the first place.
@_v2.0
@_v2.0 10 ай бұрын
Ngl, it doesn't look too suspicious to me. It just seems like he got a couple of lucky breaks and managed to play a good game. He played some theory in the opening. He made a normal-looking break in the early middlegame. Then, when he saw that he blundered d4, his brain switched into "tactics mode" and he recognized a pattern he'd recently studied. Finding one brilliant move in a game isn't too far-fetched. With the extra queen he just traded pieces and took away your pawns to convert. Sometimes people spend too long on simple moves. I still have that habit after crossing 2000, so I can totally see a 1400 who struggles w/ faster time controls doing that too.
@dabssssallday3111
@dabssssallday3111 10 ай бұрын
I would say he was definitely cheating and now he just trying to play victim
@jpietersen519
@jpietersen519 10 ай бұрын
As a 1600, the brilliant knight move is definitely something that can happen at a high 1400/low 1500 level. Someone can do a lot of puzzles and be good at tactics but still blunder in certain games. That move itself really didnt seem that suspicious to me. Of course the time usage is another story.
@shaneebersole8366
@shaneebersole8366 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, a 2 move tactic is not suspicious. That's not some complicated find and I think it's sad for that to be what makes Nelson think he's cheating. The 1400 had inaccuracies in the opening before that.
@boaz7028
@boaz7028 10 ай бұрын
yeah im around 900 and i can find some pretty neat moves for my rating because I play puzzles most of the time. besides that, i barely know anything about positional play and i end up with lots of inaccuracies or mistakes. now a 1500 is way way better than me so they could probably find that knight move aswell. but beating someone 1000 rating higher is just suspicious lol, i would not beat a 1900 in a thousand games
@supersayan6318
@supersayan6318 10 ай бұрын
Nope, this wouldn't happen in a 1400/low 1500 level.
@PanMrPiTeR
@PanMrPiTeR 10 ай бұрын
Honestly i think that this email with all these rice cooking, adv french ideas and blitz IRL crap just made matters worse but imo this guy could've just found that idea and after sacing the knight he maybe took some time double checking if he was right. As someone mentioned that email could've been written by him because dudes just scared he's gonna get instantly banned just because a youtuber reported him
@Cyberangel39
@Cyberangel39 10 ай бұрын
I'm the guy who sent the email and nop, I'm not Galadriel. Just google my name and you will see that I'm a legit 2000 Elo player who teaches chess at university.
@exist0142
@exist0142 10 ай бұрын
So I just noticed that, regarding the 12 second Bb5 move, Nelson took 133 seconds on the move beforehand. I feel this is notable because the email says he was turning on his rice cooker at the moment when Nelson moved... which is very coincidental, considering there was a 133 second interval beforehand in which the turning on of the rice cooker could have taken place, but instead it was exactly when Nelson moved. Just wanted to point out the seemingly rather coincidental nature of this.
@bunpeishiratori5849
@bunpeishiratori5849 10 ай бұрын
Or the guy started the game knowing in advance that he was going to take some time at some point during the game to attend to his stove, and then noticed that Nelson was having a very long think and figured he could just do it then.
@exist0142
@exist0142 10 ай бұрын
@@bunpeishiratori5849 Well the issue is that the turning on of the rice cooker only takes a few seconds (I would imagine), so the fact that it coincided with Nelson's move is of low probability considering the given time interval. Of course "turning on the rice cooker" may imply more than the click of a button, I'm not sure, but if it was a longer procedure then it would be coincidental that he came back at around the same time that Nelson moved. Unless he was keeping an eye on the screen while cooking rice, which I'd say is only possible if he was playing on his phone. The fact that he said specifically that he was *turning on* the rice cooker makes me think he didn't stop in the middle of the procedure, rather he had just finished the procedure, when he came back to the game. Which would seem coincidental with how much time was present. I hope what I'm saying makes sense... if he stepped away from the computer during a 133 second interval, it's kind of lucky that he left / came back at the nearly perfect moment.
@shaneebersole8366
@shaneebersole8366 10 ай бұрын
​@@exist0142it's more than a few seconds. Fill with water and rice and then turn on.
@exist0142
@exist0142 10 ай бұрын
@@shaneebersole8366 Regardless of how long it took, it's coincidental. If it took little time, it's a coincidence he happened to leave right around Nelson's move. If it took longer, it's a coincidence he happened to come back right around Nelson's move. The only way it's not a coincidence is if he was playing on mobile, and keeping an eye on the game, while doing his cooking.
@felicityc
@felicityc 9 ай бұрын
​@@exist0142 ngl I'm sure you've had the situation where you wait 15 minutes for something to happen and as soon as you stop waiting it happens say u haven't i dare u
@dabssssallday3111
@dabssssallday3111 10 ай бұрын
Oh absolutely cheating one hell of a friend defending a lying cheating chess player
@StaceyCochran
@StaceyCochran 9 ай бұрын
Honestly the most useful part of this video was learning the bishop tactic in the French discussed around the seven-minute mark.
@user-um6rj1pi2t
@user-um6rj1pi2t 10 ай бұрын
I watched this live. Not yet discussed but suspicious to me at the time was how long Galadriel97 was taking to play his moves in the end game: Nelson could hardly move a piece, the only analysis needed for each of Galadriel97's moves was to check his queen wasn't blundered, pick off the remaining pawns on a and b files, and push his pawns on a, b and/or c. Check out the live stream from 34:00: Galadriel97 takes between 7 and 26 seconds per move in a knight & bishop versus queen endgame with no passed pawns (at 34:10 he takes 23 seconds to take the pawn on g7 - that's beyond suspicious). If he's clever enough to spot the earlier knight to b5 (and the other best moves) why did he need to take so long for each simple move in the end game?
@BSAT10
@BSAT10 9 ай бұрын
he has a chance and doesn't want to blow it ?
@MinotaurvsCyclops
@MinotaurvsCyclops 9 ай бұрын
@@BSAT10 why not kill the pawns and push your own? Why keep trying to check and getting denied?
@Nightwalk444
@Nightwalk444 9 ай бұрын
Aye but if I played against an NM I'd take my time as well
@Mebsuta
@Mebsuta 2 ай бұрын
- professor Viktor what? - what university? - what chess class at university? Why does that university give chess classes? This is so obviously fake.
@Gold-ck7vj
@Gold-ck7vj 10 ай бұрын
It is a little bit weird that he played that move considering he hasn’t studied the knight sacrafice before and he also could think of the advanced French poison pawn all in like maybe 12 seconds from the other move and then 12 seconds on the move before that would’ve seen the knight sac with the king and rook fork and he didn’t take that much extra time to see if it even does anything.
@kshitiz6376
@kshitiz6376 10 ай бұрын
What's even weirder is that even Nelson wasn't able to see this move until his opponent played it. He was explaining his thought process to his viewers and he didn't even consider this. Sure,I'm to believe that a 1400 is able to find a move that even a titled player is not able to see. Definitely not cheating since he drew against a 1750 I guess?
@jonathansampson7450
@jonathansampson7450 10 ай бұрын
Hey man, wild situation here! Personally, I'm inclined to say he was cheating. 1. The email just seems... off. Though German, so his first language may not be English, his email doesn’t seem like it's written how someone whose second language is English would sound, and it definitely doesn’t sound like someone trying to make a professional impression. 2. What kind of 1400 finds that move? Either he really is the next Carlsen, or Stockfish found it. Plus, finding it in 12 seconds is crazy. 3. The rice cooker story doesn't really make sense, it's not a super long time control, and I personally hate trying to multitask while playing chess. 4. While I totally understand the "please stop harassing me" aspect of his case, the "solutions" the coach provides are also just... weird. 5. His account's game history is suspicious. His most recent game was against you (93% accuracy!!), and he hasn't played since. Plus, who turns on their rice cooker, plays a ridiculously good endgame, and then doesn’t even play another game while their rice is cooking? All in all, it seems really suspicious, but innocent until proven guilty, i guess? If that was legit, then well played Galadriel, you're gonna be an incredible player. If it was stockfish, shame on you.
@DanielSong39
@DanielSong39 10 ай бұрын
We'll see if Galadriel becomes a GM LOL
@KimiiiRaikkonen
@KimiiiRaikkonen 10 ай бұрын
12 seconds to see that brilliant move would seem legit if he just immediately took with the bishop, it's not impossible he have been in this position before if this is his preferred opening. You are allowed to learn from the analyzer after the game, and if you repeat your openings over and over again, you'll learn the right moves. I think his arguments seems suspicious, I agree with you it's not nice to message him and turn this into the Hans Niemann case all over again. I'm just a low ranked scrub so Idon't know alot of theory, but I like to repeat my openings and try to get my opponent on the same Track so I know what i'm doing. This 1493 dude does seem too low rated for his skills, but again, he might be the new Hans and just quickly climb through the ranks, and it seems all fair again when he turns 2k+. I think you are correct Nelson and this is the right approach
@elsagavshaham4202
@elsagavshaham4202 10 ай бұрын
Thanks and good recovery
@Yor1908
@Yor1908 10 ай бұрын
Chess speaks for itself
@bajulybs9021
@bajulybs9021 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 You can write it at literally any video you want and it will still make sense
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 10 ай бұрын
​@@bajulybs9021it makes more sense here
@educax7
@educax7 10 ай бұрын
Rice speaks for itself
@tomgargan8339
@tomgargan8339 10 ай бұрын
I mean I can play a bit like stockfish in classical, but in blitz there is no way. I just try to ‘the process’ and process of elimination (And a bit of intuition), but trying to calculate and evaluate the positions, not to mention finding the e4 push/knight sacrifice in a few seconds is suspicious. Although maybe the stars just aligned for him in that game, who knows.
@playandteach
@playandteach 10 ай бұрын
I think it's great that an accelerating player has the support of his teacher. Cheating is of course a scourge and needs to be identified. But I also think that trajectories in improvement in any sport or skill are not constant and straight lined. I think you have the magic for a moment, then for a period, then that becomes your new plateau from which to develop. I applaud you for sharing this email, and look forward to some resolution for you both. The rice cooker seems perfectly explainable, you are only turning it on, not monitoring it. By the way I am doing terribly at making any progress, and look forward to the stars aligning for me too.
@Q-hv2cb
@Q-hv2cb 10 ай бұрын
A 1500 could've found this tactic easily. And I myself am a 1500 rapid 1000 Blitz player myself. That's pretty normal.
@modemuffel9911
@modemuffel9911 10 ай бұрын
We did have chess classes on extra curriculum activities too at our university, that’s really common.
@thinhnguyenhuu6150
@thinhnguyenhuu6150 10 ай бұрын
I’m also a 1400. Sometimes when I found the move that I think it really strong (like a great or brilliant move), after they played their next move, I just spent a little time to analyze again 1 more time to make sure I wasn’t wrong. So I think he just got lucky that game.
@AGHathaway
@AGHathaway 9 ай бұрын
Same!
@EliasHasle
@EliasHasle 9 ай бұрын
It may have been a bit surprising that Nelson chose to jump into the trap.
@mcdawgg8519
@mcdawgg8519 10 ай бұрын
The whole thing is totally suspect. Tough one with no proof though. The time passing before the bishop taking is the kicker. When you have a brilliant plan come together you pounce. In addition, not taking the pawn on g7 later in the game adds to it. 99% chance he cheated in my book but with no proof he needs to get a pass and we move on. Love the channel
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 10 ай бұрын
I don't, if the move seems crushing I double check and also calm myself. I found a rook sac in a game and my opponent missed the idea, his best was to accept a lost end game but he tried to win and my Q & B combined to mate him thanks to a back rank weakness and his AWOL fianchetto bishop. I wasn't in a hurry to play, I wanted to make sure I didn't blow the brilliancy that I'd discovered to bust my opponent's position, which looked superficially ahead.
@christopherheckman7957
@christopherheckman7957 10 ай бұрын
That's essentially what it is; it looks possible that G cheated, but there's no proof. Nelson should have said it was suspicious, not claimed that cheating had occurred.
@glazedyeti2993
@glazedyeti2993 10 ай бұрын
We’re not talking about your rook sac. Take all day with that move. But how long did the next move take? By then you’ve done the calcs and you make the follow up moves at an expedient pace
@kenmccarty6229
@kenmccarty6229 10 ай бұрын
Actually if you are an inexperience player, no you do not pounce; you get excited and take longer to move. But I don't think he was an inexperience player. Only logical way he cheater was the chess program needed to be on the whole game. And if that's the case, then every move should be suspect. And if he sandbagged a few moves, then that should be fairly easy to spot too.
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 10 ай бұрын
@@glazedyeti2993 as I tried explain I didn't rush and found a mate ending the game quickly. I've many other games where I missed quick wins, but the games where I found the right moves and was clinical, naturally looks suspicious in the engine. The argument to rush on follow up moves is illogical and disrespects the opponent, who entered into the line for a reason. If you haven't missed something, then you can enjoy the moves, if you rush you might blow it falling for a trap.
@jackwatt8988
@jackwatt8988 10 ай бұрын
In defense of the rice cooker bit, I've turned on my oven to preheat multiple times during a game. My stove and fridge are less than 10 feet from where I'm sitting.
@JohnDoe-xk4zv
@JohnDoe-xk4zv 10 ай бұрын
That email is almost definitely fake. It's not from a university email address, written like a teen/young adult, it has no proper signature block. Also, I don't think a professor would dive into an issue like this. Also, a university "chess professor"?? What kind of university has something like that? Even the content, tone, and structure of the email is just plain bizzare. You should ask the "professor" what school and department he works in. Ther're university directories where you can search for specific teachers and verify his story. This email all but confirms he was cheating.
@purplecat5w
@purplecat5w 10 ай бұрын
@Chess Vibes What puzzled me about the infamous move is choosing to capture the knight on b5 with the pawn, rather than retreating the queen onto d7 or b6, that way when the knight forks on c7, you move the king to e7 and looses a rook instead of the queen? Am I missing something?
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown 10 ай бұрын
A queen and a pawn for 2 pieces -4 points of material and a rook is -5. Ke7 also would lock his pieces in. I agree with you though that Nelson would probably have a better chance with his queen on the board. Qc5 seems better than Qd7/Qb6, after Nc7+, Kd8, Nxa8, black can cut the bishop off with e5.
@tw5718
@tw5718 10 ай бұрын
I just looked at his account. If he cheated, it was literqlly that 1 game. You go back and his highest games are 95 and 96%, but theyre like 8 moves and opponent blundered a queen. Would be really odd for him to literally only cheat in the 1 game. I think the accusation is unfounded. Most games are sub-90%.
@mncdssctn9110
@mncdssctn9110 10 ай бұрын
Unless he knew that Peter-Patzer is Chess Vibes and took an opportunity to be the first to beat him in this ratings climb. Quite risky (or maybe I should say stupid) though to cheat against someone even if you know that they normally play on a much higer level, since you can get banned.
@yanp9071
@yanp9071 10 ай бұрын
@@mncdssctn9110 Exactly my thought. If I had to guess, I'd say it's a kid who couldn't resist going for his 15 minutes of fame. Stupid for an adult, normal for a kid. And he also wrote the letter. Chess teacher in university? Sounds like someone who doesn't know what people do in university. And fake a note from an authority figure, that's just such a classic kid idea. Just a guess, of course.
@afj810
@afj810 10 ай бұрын
@@yanp9071 no there are chess courses in some universities such as RWTH Aachen in Germany and Webster University in St. Louis
@Dudevid
@Dudevid 10 ай бұрын
Could anyone kindly link me the vid where this happened live? I checked the description, checked the comments, etc. but couldn't find the vid where this happened live.
@Lovuschka
@Lovuschka 10 ай бұрын
You took over 2 minutes to take on b5, so it isn't unreasonable to think that he in a position he regards as won stands up to do something.
@presidentstevensmccheesins2860
@presidentstevensmccheesins2860 10 ай бұрын
im a 1200 player and ive had a game where i had a 93% accuracy and the engine said I played like an 1800 player. The reason im not past 1200 is because its impossible to always play like that. Sometimes you play better than your rating and sometimes you play lower. As a 1500 player his upper ceiling is probably a lot higher. This guy was playing an opening he was comfortable with its not out of the question that he had the vision to see that move and took some time (12 seconds) to double check and make sure that he was right.
@mathewchristman3435
@mathewchristman3435 10 ай бұрын
You've only ever had 1 game where you've had 93% and you're a 1200?
@guilhermeeugenio4434
@guilhermeeugenio4434 10 ай бұрын
​@@mathewchristman3435i ve had 2 (and I am 800) 😂
@Tetracontakaitetragon
@Tetracontakaitetragon 10 ай бұрын
I had some too although most of them are just 10 moves long or something.
@presidentstevensmccheesins2860
@presidentstevensmccheesins2860 10 ай бұрын
​@@mathewchristman3435I don't have premium so I cant game review every game, it's possible that I have more but I can't see them
@presidentstevensmccheesins2860
@presidentstevensmccheesins2860 10 ай бұрын
​@@mathewchristman3435I've only seen someone get a 90% accurate game on me once, most games I review the opponent was 70% accurate or less
@benprescott9217
@benprescott9217 10 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the power of beads... if you get the reference.
@ortholol
@ortholol 10 ай бұрын
no need to speak because they speak for themselves
@curtisbogue3707
@curtisbogue3707 10 ай бұрын
I also find it especially suspicious that he claims that he was multitasking while crushing an NM. I remember one time I sent a text in the middle of a game. I got mated on the next move!
@anthonyrooksac
@anthonyrooksac 10 ай бұрын
I also like to push g and h file pawns in my games because I assume the opponent would castle kingside so that I can make flank attack faster than the opponent. In the Nelson's case, it is better to response h6 rather than h5, due to 2 reasons, firstly prevent the opponent move the g pawn to restrict Nelson pieces space,secondly prevent the opponent kinght to try to exchange light square bishop and damage the pawn structure.
@yadinhershkoviz9891
@yadinhershkoviz9891 10 ай бұрын
After you find a brilliant move it's the perfect time to chill and go turn on the rice cooker, i do it all the time, once i see i got a wining position i can start multitask if needed
@stekikun6854
@stekikun6854 10 ай бұрын
Fair enough, especially considering the fact taht Nelson took a long time to reply to that move.. but I would 100% pre-move Bxb5 before leaving the keyboard in that case.
@afj810
@afj810 10 ай бұрын
there is nowhere to go and turn on the rice cooker bro is a uni student everything is within -arms- fingers reach 😂
@yadinhershkoviz9891
@yadinhershkoviz9891 10 ай бұрын
@@afj810 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@glazedyeti2993
@glazedyeti2993 10 ай бұрын
Nelson will move on in no time. But I will smile about The Rice Cooker Conspiracy for a good while 😂
@glazedyeti2993
@glazedyeti2993 10 ай бұрын
It’s funny to me that people don’t realize it’s different when one 1400 has 90% accuracy against another 1400 than when a 1400 has 90% accuracy against a 2300. Also psychologically, when I make a mistake or my opponent plays out of their mind and my queen is lost, I almost always have opportunities to get back in the game when they in turn make mistakes because they get excited and lose their cool. This guy was as constant as a computer. Alright I’ve said my piece
@afj810
@afj810 10 ай бұрын
@@glazedyeti2993 in this case though none of his moves looked inhuman because they all had fast visible results just 1-2 moves down the line
@kevingrisler4123
@kevingrisler4123 10 ай бұрын
To me, it seems really weird that a teacher would be messaging you on behalf of a student. It sounds like a little kid making up a story, just too elaborate. Gives me Chandler Halderson vibes
@mohammadsulieman6213
@mohammadsulieman6213 6 ай бұрын
Galadriel is a cheater and that's it. I played against a cheater once, and the whole time we were playing I felt like a chess donkey...oooh wow with every amazing move from him. He was laughing in the chat, which increased my misery. My heart was broken that night and I hated chess for two years after that.
@bm90025
@bm90025 10 ай бұрын
The most suspicious part was that the quality of his moves faded and his pace slowed near the end of the game. I'm skeptical.
@Deadeye1967
@Deadeye1967 10 ай бұрын
i am 1300 and I am weak on end games like a lot of players around my rating. He studied openings so it's not that far fetched to play well in the opening, and then get a bit lucky to find the sacrifice and faded late on, maybe he had nerves, or something. I have played the odd really good game and the odd brilliant move, especially involving tricky knight tactics. To me it is feasible to play that game as a 1400 player, it wasn't like a succession of complex tactics, he just found logical moves, and one brilliant move.
@fuckingSickOfCreepyG
@fuckingSickOfCreepyG 10 ай бұрын
i don't even entertain the idea that this guy wasn't cheating, especially after reading this hilarious email
@Cyberangel39
@Cyberangel39 10 ай бұрын
I'm the guy who sent the email. I agree, the whole situation is ridiculous but I'm just stating what I know :3
@docxx4499
@docxx4499 10 ай бұрын
I mean, I'm finding about what happened now. Sometimes it happened to me to play like a 2350 player, and I'm rated 800 in rapid. Maybe it was a similar thing. He was just in his super flow state and just played a lot better than he usually does
@MirinkaiserVODs
@MirinkaiserVODs 10 ай бұрын
This happens to me all the time. I missed a move, I think I lost a pawn or a piece, then I find a move that just happens to work in that position, that I had missed previously. I definitely want to give that player the benefit of the doubt on that. It wasn't a 10 move forced checkmate in a complex position. It was a 2 move tactic from someone who thought they lost a pawn then saw something that happens to work out (even though it wasn't planned ahead of time). That's the way I see it, anyway.
@andresperedo1275
@andresperedo1275 10 ай бұрын
After a fast research, the person who writes the email is a real chess player rated 2000 who plays in Aachen. So it makes total sense that he teaches chess. He was born on 95, so I totally believe that he can be the teacher of his friend (I assumed borned in 1997). So in that sense everything seems allright. In any case, the best would be to not accuse someone on stream of cheating, as the viewers can react in a very bad way and, in any case, we are nobody to judge and sentence
@danielrunvegan
@danielrunvegan 10 ай бұрын
He is also definitively hosting a chess course at Aachen University which is currently under way, so it seems to add up.
@MinotaurvsCyclops
@MinotaurvsCyclops 9 ай бұрын
​@@danielrunvegandoesn't mean his student doesn't cheat though
@markmeridian3360
@markmeridian3360 5 ай бұрын
It's more than possible to get lucky - I've done it in live chess where cheating isn't possible. I once beat a guy who was rated over 500 points higher than me. He pestered me for a rematch for months - but I was always "too busy".
@rfactor1502
@rfactor1502 10 ай бұрын
There's definitely some things that look odd in the game, as far as the weird 12sec time goes, which feels both too short and too long for a move like that. At the same time, I can't dismiss the idea that some mild distraction such as turning on a rice cooker could have happened. If the player had set up a meal that would take 20min or more to cook, then yeah, could be they just saw they forgot to hit one button, meaning the multitasking was pretty minimal an limited to one move. This doesn't completely explain the second move however. But stuff like this is what a good anti-cheat algorithm is designed for, not a flurry of angry messages aimed at someone who could well have been that good and/or lucky.
@eddiejohnson7419
@eddiejohnson7419 10 ай бұрын
I think it is entirely plausible that he saw a tactic, got excited, double-checked, and played the game of his life. It may have happened that way.
@tiletapper4ever
@tiletapper4ever 10 ай бұрын
Well, I want to share my point of view. Yes, it is possible for a 1500 to get lucky by finding a crazy tactic like this. Yes, it is possible that this 1500 didn't immediately continue their tactic but spent 14 seconds to play the discovered attack on the queen because of another task. Yes, it is possible that this guy wasn't cheating. But all of this story leaves me really troubled. Why a 1500 learns advanced theory but can't pass 1100 blitz? Why a 1500 plays like 20 or 30 stockfish moves in one game? Also, why didn't the player themselves contact you and instead they made their teacher do so? Were the stockfish moves also coincidental? And the similar amount of time used for those moves is also random? And the 1500 was sure enough that it was safe to play a risky tactic like this, after using only a few seconds, and even while cooking, and even against a national master?? I don't want either for this occurrence to become a scandal that will annoy us for a long time. However, we cannot say that we believe (or do not believe) what the chess university teacher, if this is a real, unless they give a good explanation for those questions. Again, I am just sharing my point of view, with no intention of being rude or offensive to anyone.
@AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
@AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 9 ай бұрын
as a 1200 who doesn't know any theory other than the hippo (the hippo lets me peak at 1300), i find brilliant moves all the time like this in like 12 seconds, and i play them confidently. then i get checkmated by a knight that bounces too much, or by some other sick move i didn't see. but sometimes, i'm brilliant like this. i believe the guy.
@obscurity3027
@obscurity3027 9 ай бұрын
Not accounting for the odd time usage, I feel like that knight sac wasn’t quite the stellar move it’s being made out to be. Obviously the discovered bishop check is a major threat if it was possible, so he found the move to make it possible.
@zensvienna9007
@zensvienna9007 10 ай бұрын
Being 1500 myself, seems he just had a really good game, entirely possible
@kshitiz6376
@kshitiz6376 10 ай бұрын
Nah,there's an 80% chances that this guy cheated. This email acts like a confirmation more than anything.
@lucaskloosterman3016
@lucaskloosterman3016 10 ай бұрын
@@kshitiz6376 clown
@shaneebersole8366
@shaneebersole8366 10 ай бұрын
​@kshitiz6376 nah, theres not a lot of suspicious activities here. A 1500 knows theory in the opening? A 1500 finds a tactic that's pretty easy to spot? A 1500 plays a solid endgame when up a queen for 2 pieces? None of that is suspicious enough to roast this guy. Nelson blundered and got salty. It's sad :(
@kshitiz6376
@kshitiz6376 10 ай бұрын
​@@shaneebersole8366 All the tactics seem easy to spot when you aren't playing the game in real time. But yeah,could be a one off game. And Nelson had some suspicions which is understandable,it's not like he did something horrendous. He just addressed the situation,I wouldn't call that "salty".
@shaneebersole8366
@shaneebersole8366 10 ай бұрын
@kshitiz6376 he made this video where he basically doubled down on accusing him of cheating after getting an email from his coach. Yes, he's salty. If he wasn't he could have just said "look guys lay off, let chesscom deal with it" at the beginning of his next speed run video.
@tboneanimateandtheanderson5730
@tboneanimateandtheanderson5730 10 ай бұрын
As a 1500 I think that the move was not as difficult to find as it seems, I'm generally not good at blitz or bullet either and rarely play it. It's a tough situation but I think he might have just had a strong game, some players are more consistent than others
@mikemck4796
@mikemck4796 9 ай бұрын
I always remember precisely what I was doing during follow-up moves….. Impressive memory
@creepermods4641
@creepermods4641 10 ай бұрын
He feels down because the way that he cheated... That seems unbelievable.
@shulmpino5505
@shulmpino5505 10 ай бұрын
We will just have to see what happens. It’s totally understandable to believe the opponent cheated, but also it seems very possible/realistic to me that they were not.
@avm36
@avm36 10 ай бұрын
yea that rice cooker thing is unrealistic why would you play chess while doing that he didnt spend lot of time in the opening too the tactic wasnt hard to find tho when you see the pieces on the same file and the fact his friend emailed you and not him? that doesnt sound right if the friend knew the guy told him probably getting someone else involved with this i dont know who would do that also and on his profile hes only 1050 blitz despite 131 gamess played so that long time thinking about bishop takes pawn check is way too weird aswell and the rice stuff dont add up
@Chris.M
@Chris.M 10 ай бұрын
He wrote the email by himself 😅
@ThisReallyArmorsMyCore
@ThisReallyArmorsMyCore 10 ай бұрын
The thing about finding his blitz-rapid rating split odd doesn't make a lot of sense to me. While I'll admit I'm a little embarrassed of it, I struggle a lot with tight time controls... to the point that my blitz vs. rapid Elo spread is comparable to Galadriel's. And even then, I frequently choke on time in 10m rapids, though at least I stop stumbling into obvious tactics because I don't calculate far enough ahead quite so often.
@ryanmichael5239
@ryanmichael5239 10 ай бұрын
You should both go live on your channel and play a game against eachother 🙌
@bunpeishiratori5849
@bunpeishiratori5849 10 ай бұрын
What the hell would that even prove? Nelson is obviously the better player and would almost certainly win. But he wouldn't win 100% of the time (no one does). It wouldn't prove anything.
@krstev29
@krstev29 10 ай бұрын
No, that shouldn't happen, because why would you put on more fire, it's unneeded.
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