We need to talk

[@SkaredCast]

Thanks for the shout out :) I do indeed have fun playing this game. One of the most fun things that happened recently was playing my Drukhari with a solitaire into black Templars , solitaire ran in, killed the character in the unit (failing all his fnp) only to be brutally chainsworded to death in retribution.

[@Boredom_Incarnate]

Hi Skarri, not to hijack the subject but I went to buy some more Dark Eldar recently and saw a good portion of models aren't on GW's site anymore (Grotesques and Mandrakes stood out to me as missing). Do you know or have a theory as to why? People online are saying they were frequently proxied (and I won't omit I was planning to get a 3d printer myself soon) but I'm only barely "in the hobby" now after just painting for a decade.

[@jimbrummett8007]

#SkariforPresident!!! Always fun to watch you play bro!

[@mosselliadelt]

Skarii. Still waiting for that game over at ETB man lol

[@shadowcat6lives639]

Would both of you or anyone here agree that players who focus more on winning and less on the other aspects of the hobby(painting, narrative, being in a group of friends, and more) become more dependent on how the game turns out for their fun?

[@Boredom_Incarnate]

@@shadowcat6lives639 Of course, competitiveness relies on self-perception of performance, opinion of the opposing players' skill, and what the end result was, to evaluate enjoyment of the game.

[@ndfan134]

Me and my dad played a game years ago and we made it to where there was no end turn just an end game. It was either full vanquished or was able to do the impossible mission(as we called it). It was just an endless fun game with twist and turns and the best part was it didn't really matter who won. Playing 40k should always be based on telling a story and not about winning or losing.

[@kenrickdavis5355]

Yeah the game is partly rooted in DnD traditions.. storytelling is everything

[@Mikey__R]

I agree that should be the goal. The problem I have is that your genetically enhanced super soldiers trained from childhood to be expert marksmen with the bolter... still manage to miss one shot in three. The 40k rules aren't any good at modelling the 40k fluff. They could be, but then GW wouldn't sell many Space Marines, as all you'd ever need was one squad.

[@MinisMapsMayhem]

YOU ARE NOT OFF BASE! Watching battle reports where players are talking through everything together is so much fun! It's easier to learn about different armies, and see the synergy of different players.

[@Keteral1]

One of my most memorable moments was in early 8th (the days of 1 wound first marines) one of my tactical marines destroyed my friend's knight...which exploded killing like 3 entire squads of marines except for the model who got the lucky shot. We joked that he was then looking around so confused as to what happened and why he was suddenly alone.

[@HeatleyBros]

The best White Dwarf issue I ever read was the ongoing journal of a dark elf army campaign, his army would evolve as he won and lost games, and while that was very interesting, the best part was the NARRATIVE he laced into the reports based on wins and losses, the characters came to life, he wrote quotes for the characters as events happened. It was engaging because it was about the journey and the story more than what happened on the board.💙🧡

[@savagex466-qt1io]

Is it just me or reading battle reports in a magazine was the best ? I remember one from a white drawrf 15 years ago or something the board hard a birdge in the middle ! It was space marines vs dark eldar and only the hover bikes and transports could fly off the bridge same with space marine land speeder. It was just writen so well with great pictures.

[@HeatleyBros]

@@savagex466-qt1io yes! The stories are what bring it to life!✨🤝✨

[@justmakesstuff]

Watching Skari has shaped how i play. I went from getting angry at dice rolls and frustrated when an opponent rolls hot. To celebrating every good dice roll. No matter who's it is. Praising units that exceed expectations. Letting the dice tell stories. The subtle change in mindset makes such a huge difference.

[@SkaredCast]

That is awesome !

[@masoncarter1710]

I've found narrative play to be way more fun than just playing normally. When you tell a story with your guys, you're trying to make it epic. The long bomb charge, the one man holding back the tide. The final advance to claim victory. I have two epic stories I'd like to share and both happened during apocalypse size games. The first one I believe was my first ever apocalypse. I had only been playing for about a year and had no idea what I was in for that day. An enemy knight starts cutting deep into our lines and sets its sights on our friendly baneblade. It all appears to be lost for if the knight gets in, the baneblade dies and we would probably lose. But who was there to save us? a lone guardsmen with nerves of steel and faces down the knight with no fear. Blocks the charge and is obliterated with no hope of coming back but that allows the baneblade to take aim and shoot the knight down. I should point out this was other people's models, I spent the whole game being a smelly roadblock in the middle (death guard) My second one happened this summer. Our farewell to 9th apocalypse and I was playing black templars and I was destroyed. My faith was low and I lost everything. At the start of the last turn of the game, my turn 5, I had helbrecht a castellan and 2 incursors. The castellan and incursors were locked up with a Maleceptor, they would be dead by the end of the day. Helbrecht was free but stuck pretty far back. However, he saw his target, a Neurothrope sitting in the midboard. The 3+ invulnerable save a forever taunt against me that had angered me my whole warhammer career. Helbrecht charges forward, ferocity firing but doing very little. He charges in and clashes with the brain bug and slays it. Even a 3+ invuln is no match for the high marshal. In one last zealous rage, he throws himself at an exocrine and lives! the Black templars started with 4000pts, a quarter of the total points on the board, and by the end, only one wound remained on helbrecht. The soul survivor of the tyranids and definitely not genestealer cult (they were guard) assault... if you ignore the necrons to his left.

[@RSBurgener]

I'm a massive Iron Warriors fan, and I paint them to a very high standard. I was playing my IW against a Sisters player who really outclassed me, in his list and his experience. I was getting a bit depressed watching my army disappear by turn 3. I'd held my own but it was starting to fall apart. It finally came down to a battle between Morvyn Val and my Terminator Warsmith. He couldn't possibly have won that fight, but blow after blow, he just would not die. The Sisters player was getting frustrated. Speaking as the voice of my Warsmith, the guy who was watching our game said: "Where is your faith now?!" It was perfect. I started laughing, and then suddenly I was having fun again. I think this is exactly the point you are making in this video. The competitive element of our community has begun to dominate the conversation online, but the narrative element (or community element) of the game can save the day for you if you let it.

[@benbarnes8273]

Would have been almost 30 years ago playing 2nd edition as a 14 year old at my local games club. I was playing orks against elder and the elder player had a titan. I fired everything at the titan in true ork fashion, managed to hit, rolled a natural 20 to penetrate the armour and a 100 on the location chart to vaporise the pilot. Still remember the joy it brought to this day!

[@Eric-jt8yx]

2:37 exactly right. The narrative moments make the game and hobby so much fun. Meeting up with the guys to roll dice and have a good time. Its the best!

[@JoCocomo]

Back during 9th edition, me and one of my friends was playing Tau vs Imperial Guard. He brought a whole bunch of suits plus Riptides, and I brought my Baneblade, Matilda. She went on to absolutely go on a tear during the game so much that both of us were laughing at how she was rolling all over the Tau. It started this whole thing where I got Tau helmets and painted them up in the schemes of the guys who played Tau at the shop and hung them like trophies from the back of her helmet. Now whenever I bring her to the table vs Tau it's always this big event of "Will Matilda earn another victory or will the Tau finally lay her low?" and we just have such a fun time.

[@mikestrickler4299]

Did that with my orcs. I painted the jump boys with different shoulder pads of the marine legends . I should go through them and put the different unit ( fast attack, front line etc) transfers on the pads. I didn't win many games, but I always wanted to play Orks vs Orks, however, no one collected as they weren't meta.

[@runamuck840]

I do this but its funny as I never win so all my models have bits from a faction that repeatedly tables me

[@mikestrickler4299]

I would have to get many more orks then!@@runamuck840

[@JoCocomo]

I think the best most recent one was that I had a squad of Kasrkin staring down a Norn Emissary and had them manage to gun her down with lasgun fire after she had taken a couple wounds from my Rogan Dorn. They managed to get through the rest of the wounds and both of us were cheering on the most badass soldiers in the Imperium that he offered me 'nid trophy bits for when I get actual Kasrkin modesl (was proxying with my Scions)

[@JacintoDeSousa-bq2wp]

The time was 1996, 2nd edition, I had just finished painting my ForgeWorld Baneblade. It was my first game fielding it. My eyes were wide and glowing with pride. I'm playing my Imperial Guard vs buddy's Orks. Turn one he goes first. His Ork Mek with telescopic legs pops up from behind a building, targets my Baneblade with his Shokattackgun. He then rolls, hits and rolls max, masses of snotlings then instantly infest the inside of my Baneblade and its effectively now just a fiery smoldering expensive piece of cover. It was hilariously glorious.

[@corruptedai]

My favorite 40k moment was teaching my son a few years ago. I had a squad of intercessors camping my home objective from a wall. He got annoyed at being shot all game, charged his dread across the table, and basically grabbed them off the wall and crushed them in the fight phase. He still talks about it to this day.

[@KyleParkePlaysDrums]

In 8th edition, I had a game against my brother who was just getting back into 40K after years and years. I was using my Tau and he was using Death Korps, he charged an infantry squad and a Marshall into my hurt Riptide and proceeded to have 4 turns of combat. I didn't pull the riptide out because I was thinking I could just shoot him in my turn but I missed every time. Eventually he had just one guy with a power sword take down the riptide which exploded and left the Marshall on 1 wound. You can't imagine what that combat looks like in real life.

[@philipmoran4265]

My best friend who got me into the hobby lives several states away and has for the many years that we’ve loved this hobby. His first army was the Imperial Guard and mine was the Orks. We decided when he came back we’d have a grudge match for old times sake. An iron column of Steel Legion was moving through a pass only to be ambushed by a mekmob. We decided to bring out the fun toys for this since it had been so long since we used them. Long story short, his deathstrike missile (using the stratagem for Vortex missile) was shot into the Stompa at the core of the advancing force in turn 3, destroying the Stompa and heavily damaging everything around it. Then the Stompa exploded, killing everything around it. Tanks, walkers, trukks with boyz, a Gorkanaut. There was a huge hole in the battlefield where nothing existed anymore. Nothing except for one Killa Kan, right near the center. He passed morale, and he’s now a legend. We don’t play as much anymore, when he comes down it’s hard to pack the models and plan a game in advance, especially since we have kids, but when we talk about 40k, we somehow always circle back to this moment. I suspect it’s the moment that will firmly plant me in this hobby forever.

[@traversal6881]

Most fun memory I have is playing Gorkamorka with my Mum when I was 8/9. She never really liked board games and didn't have time to relax; she worked several jobs to put food on our table and a roof over our heads, and went through a lot of hell in the process - no friends, family fights, etc. But she played that one game of Gorkamorka with me with modified rules; 9-year-old me just liked making it roll dice, 1-3 saved a model, 4-6 killed a model. She won and never let me forget. That was the one game of Gorkamorka I played, and I have a set of it still to this day. I love the memory of it, and it makes me miss my childhood.

[@ronintheronin8035]

I love the positivity in this video and it's warming my heart. It's amazing to see you strive to fuel enjoyment regardless of winning and loosing. Leaving a little comment to add to the positivity, play for fun people! Competition too is meant to be enjoyable and that should be goal number 1 :)

[@tapioperala3010]

Perhaps the most memorable moment in 40k I've ever had was something like 20 years ago. I was playing with my Khorne army (I think this was back in 3rd edition...) and of course they jumped out of the Rhino. Started charging from the middle of the board. Problem was that I was playing against tournament player with min-maxed Tau army. Yeah. I know. Anyway, when I finally got his firewarriors in chainaxe range, I had like 4 Berzerkers left. They all missed every attack on a charge (they got like 8 attacks each on charge, back then). But that's not all. Not only did the firewarriors survive the charge, but they attacked back and killed all of my berzerkers. Extremely memorably. Not fun, but memorable. Serves as reminder to always keep the Dice Gods satisfied.

[@RPGCOMPANY]

This video really speaks to me. I visited you guys and played a bunch of games at MWG when I was 14. I had an absolute blast, none of the games were taken seriously, just me and my brothers playing with Jay and Dave having an absolute blast rolling dice. After a few more years I took a long break from 40k. Things got very toxic, every game I tried to play at local shops turned into extreme meta chasing unfun slug fests. I switched over to Bolt Action and started a huge community in my area hosting regular events, creating huge terrain boards and having a ton of fun writing out historical campaigns for me and my friends. Lately I've had the itch to get back into 40k, my first game with a buddy of mine gave me a familiar feeling of everyone trying their hardest to max their army until I decided to start a narrative crusade with a bunch of people. It is an absolute blast, got me to start a new army, actually put tons and tons of hours into painting and I am so glad to be back!

[@danandrews1830]

Many years back, in a double tournament it was nids vs guard. By the final turn we had 1 gaunt hiding in a forest and we all agreed that the otjer side should "open fire, all weapons!" The last thing to be fired was a lascannon, it finally took the little guy out. Yet we were all cheering him on, and were sad he finally bit the bullet. Then we had a drink and a laugh and became long term tournament/ hobby friends

[@LordBillygoat]

My most favourite moment lately war my first game in a Path to Glory campaign. My Stormcast leader died and his explosion took out the enemy kruleboyz leader. My opponent was awesome and made it part of his general's personality for the whole campaign - part of Sigmar's lightning affected his mind and he spoke totally differently, had different goals, he came somehow more... human. So much changed because of that one dicr roll!

[@thashadowspawn]

Words of Wisdom from Brotha Matthew 2023 Edition brought to you live from the MiniWargaming Tome! :D I agree 100% with you brotha Matthew! And cheers to brotha SkaredCast as well because this is what I learned to do many years ago when I got back into the hobby during 4th/5th edition. I enjoyed cheering on the people I played against and seeing the positive effect it has on their morale . It would boost their mood and we would both enjoy the game alot more regardless of who lost. I would hype up the other people I played against & those I teamed up with when ever they got a great roll or that 1 life saving roll to keep that 1 model alive. Of course this would confuse some players at 1st because they where not used to this kind of gaming experience with other players their used to. I enjoyed showing them a more positive way to play the game. "Iron Sharpens Iron" ! This allowed me to stop some players who where depressed (with what ever was going on in their personal lives) from quitting the Hobby which was their primary stress reliever. Their fun factor would greatly increase and their drive to do better in life would grow. Their desire to have more Narrative Story Driven Games grew greatly which is a blessing. I can recall some players who where ready to quit the Hobby and threw their army in the trash "rage quit mode". But I 1 grabbed their army out of the trash and gave it back to them and talked them into playing me in a game while telling me what their going through. 9 out of 10 of these people continued with the hobby and learned how to enjoy the Hobby on a deeper level, they got better at the game. A few later told me that because of that talk and that one "don't give up game session" they choose not to unalive themselves. Which is a double blessing that I am happy to be apart of while using the Hobby to enrich the lives of other people internationally. Thank you for sharing this video brotha Matthew! Ase Aloha Amen Shalom! :)

[@clancymurphy4350]

Matthew, you said it perfectly. If you cheer your opponent on and have fun when they do cool stuff, your experience will be sooo much better.

[@gustavusjohansson8688]

Back in 5th edition, I played a 4 player free for all with my friends, this was how we played back in the days as teenagers. This is also the period where we saw the Space Marine Land Raider as the pinacle of power, if you had a Land Raider, you had the strongest tank in the game. So what happened was that 3 out of 4 of us had a Land Raider each, the 4th player was Astra Militarum, one of these Land Raider was a Chaos Land Raider. But anyway, we drove our Land Raiders towards eachother, trying to break through the crossroad we had in the middle due to impassable walls dividing the deployment zones from eachother. Each Land Raider got destroyed during the second turn. We all saw what we precieved as the strongest vehicle in the entire game, totally destroyed. One where even taken out by an Astra Militarum Missile Launcher. It was glorious!

[@PixelReaper]

I've had so much fun playing 10th. I have gripes with it, but I have had more positive experiences than negative. I feel part of that is who you surround yourself with. I had so much fun when I was at MWG and I have so much fun with my mates. I play to have fun, and that's all I care about

[@dococ3272]

You would hands down be having more fun in 8th-9th edition. Clearly you’re playing with fun people and that’s great but to equate that to 10th is ridiculous. 10th was a marketplace reset and a streamlining that took away the fluffy fun unique rules, made portions of some peoples armies unusable as the faction they’re painted. All so they can sell you the new rule books and models since lists have to be made differently and models we bought maybe the same month as 10th release, lost heir representation in rules. 10th edition took it back to an untested phase just so they can take years to “balance” and release new core books AND a whole brand new release schedule of faction codexes they’ll stretch over a decade before announcing 12th edition which does the same thing all over again a month after the last codex releases. And you all soaked it up like the mindless sheep consumers you are. Some of the most toxic people in the world I met playing mtg or D&D yet at least I can say they stand up to their overlord and will boycott or start an uproar over bad decisions or consumer unfriendly practices. Once again GW got away with charging you to alpha test their game, then pull the rug right when it’s near balance and charge you to have you alpha test the game again. That is my aggressive translation of his passive feelings and comments

[@kelermatt1439]

@@dococ3272that’s not my experience. I got in at the start of 9th and played every week for the edition, and 10th has been a wholesale better experience. 9th felt sluggish and, even at the end, my opponent was using strats and stuff I hadn’t seen. It was just a huge box filled with random stuff that you could never fully learn, and I’m happy they trimmed the fat. That said, I miss my list building and psychic depth, I hope that makes a return

[@lukem2971]

​@dococ3272 8th edition was also a reset and stripped away a lot of the fluff to rebuild it in a new system, 9th was very good, I'm confident that 10th will do the same. Besides, the current rule set is very solid. Primary mission in particular are very fun and more varied than the last 2 editions.

[@viktorgabriel2554]

@@dococ3272 8th ed was not fun it was mostly place model on table remove model of table 9th was fun for the first week of my Codex then they removed a lot of the fluff for the armie and ignored the issue then they did that 6 more times and only at the end of the edition did they bring the fluff back and fix the issue 10th overall has more positive things then 9th and 8th i hated having to go thru 3 books and 4 different wikies to find an answer to some rule interactions. i am in no way saying 10th is perfect it has its issues but its biggest issues are not in the rules needed to have fun

[@dococ3272]

@@lukem2971 gaslighting per usual from this community and GW. 7th to 8th was not a marketplace reset, they stripped the armor mechanic and sold me a new book. I was still able to use anything I owned still. 9th to 10th stripped away factional rules, character power, and actual models. World eaters can’t use any CSm units anymore, I had a whole 3000pts of world eaters in 9th with my favorite models, I now have roughly 1200 that can be world eaters, 1000 some pts of Alpha legion that I’m currently repainting and 300pts of paper weights. Even though death guard and thousand sons previously had access to the entire CSM line they coincidentally made an anti consumer move before making even more anti consumer moves. Idc if missions are more fun, cuz they could’ve just added them with 9th edition rules. Your response is such a non argument I’m actually offended.

[@rumenmatanov303]

A few guys run a twice an year narrative event where I am, I was playing my Night Lords vs Primaris Dark Angels. The mission was the Dark Angels defending a key structure I had to take out to win, with a twist. A speed waaagh would come between 2 random points on the table and take out any models and terrain it passes over. The DA were entrenched around the structure and I had almost no chance out-gunning or out-fighting him (was some time in 8th, when CSM had 1 wound vs 2 wounds primaris). You've probably guessed it already - the Waaaagh landed on his trenches and took out 2/3 of his army, so I was like, sweet, we got this... then next turn it came in and took away half of mine. Last turn I was down to a melta raptor squad that actually managed to destroy the strucutre and win the game, was epic!

[@SkunkleNFoxy]

As soon as you mentioned a compilation of a fun moment, I knew we were seeing the Bullgryn clip getting rolled back. A very fun moment in my favorite matchup. My old 40k Buddy used to be a Guard player and my Tyranids clashed with his Cadians regularly. It was 5th Ed and Zoanthrope Warp Lances and Hunter Killer missles were flying all over my kitchen table. I have enjoyed your tyranid series because it reminds me of my own games with my friends back then. He is a parent now and cannot put resources into plastic army men like we used to so now I just paint. But moments like the one you clipped are why I hope he comes back once he becomes an empty nester.

[@garretth.251]

Last week my Tyranids were on the back foot in a crusade match against Custodes. In his second turn, I triggered Shadow in the Warp and battle-shocked his ENTIRE ARMY! Suddenly, I was in a position to gain some momentum on points. His Allarus Terminators came in through Deep Strike and charged my Hive Tyrant on my home objective and I only killed 1 of 3, so he took my home objective, and with a sticky objective on another part of the table, he scored the maximum 20 VP for that round in which his entire army failed battle shock. Quite the impressive turnaround!

[@SwedishWookie]

I slowly stopped having fun with 40k around the mid-point of 8th Ed, and as a result branched out and played other games. And I started leaning more towards skirmish games. Played a bit of One page rules instead of 40k. And then SW Legion, which is really fun, but also has some problems (not nearly as severe as I find 40k). My feeling is that when GW shifted and started catering to tournament play more and more and the game design and rules changed towards competetive, all of their games started to suffer for it. But hey, I've played tons of new games thanks to this so I guess that's the silver lining for me :P

[@Nick-cs4oc]

It’s uncannily similar to when a game dev focuses on their game as being more of an esport than a community based experience. An e-sport will largely sort itself out but a community needs room and support for failure With all of that said I’m focusing on the hobbying side of things and am excited to try out some third party options

[@Mikey__R]

8th ed was fantastic fun, before any of the codexes came out. They definitely seem to have gone backwards since then.

[@tobiwan80]

I once had a crusade game with my son, he played Dark Angels an me the evil Necrons. The mission was for the Necrons to kill his Phobos Librarian. And than in one turn a smal troop of little scarabs manged to get through. theyx swarmed around the Librarian an tried to bit of little pieces of him. They managed to wound him enough, so if my son would have failed his saves he would have been killed. Adrenalin was flowing high, as he rolled his dice. An epic moment in the end the librarian survieved. And the deathwing terminators came to a rescue and brutally slained the poor scarabs. But it was amazing. pure joy.

[@schmoglinr.1265]

In one of my last Drukhari games against Aeldari, Lelith faced a unit of Wraithguard and nearly obliterated them on her own. Me and my friend both witnessed her thrilling spectacle with 12 attacks turning into 30 hits. It was amazing.

[@sheyrd7778]

I played my first game of 10th edition last Saturday. I had fun in that game. My list was outdated in models it was First born Space marines against Primerus Marines. The Fire power I did feel overwhelming at first. I did adjust and took out the biggest threats quickly with Oath of Moment and was able to dictate the battle and turned it into a win. Despite the feel of being overwhelmed in firepower the ability of turn it around quickly made the game fun even my opponent had fun the game was close till the last 2 rounds when he no longer had enough models to contest or take objectives.

[@Dwilson1282]

if your happiness or fun meter revolves solely around winning with your toy soldiers you might want to assess your attitude.

[@malekiththeeternityking5433]

Yeah but it gets annoying to spend alot of miney paint alot of dudes only to get tabled turn 2 by some fat nerd

[@lindraeson]

I get no joy if I get a one sided win

[@leanderschuster3196]

What kinda attitude is that? First the belittleing of the hobby and then this "if you like to compete you're a douchebag" in isguise.

[@lukem2971]

I enjoy casual games as much as anyone else, but I think higher stakes tournament games where each player is trying their best to win are a lot of fun in their own way.

[@merrickbryan85]

You are one of those people who get beat in Madden or 2K so badly and then says "I just play for fun"... what's the point of playing a competitive game to lose.😮

[@travisbishop3593]

Waaay back in 5th edition, I was playing my Crimson Fists against my buddy's Orks. He charged a mob of boys into a tactical squad. Most of the tactical squad died immediately. And over the next few turns they kept dying, leaving just the SGT to deal with 10 -ish boys. (We weren't playing a turn limit, just a kill 'em all type thing.) That SGT by himself wiped the rest of that boys squad in a few more turns. He was then charged and killed by some burna boys. The next day, or two days later, I bought a Dreadnought, and my story is that this SGT is interred in that Dreadnought.

[@snowconesyrup]

Learning to celebrate the other players victories makes every game better. When all you care about is cool fun stuff happening even if it is bad for your chances to win you have so many more fun moments per game. that being said I thing the balance problems in 10th mean for some people it's more like the opponent gets 75% of the cool moments and that starts to feel discouraging

[@lasifike1951]

I am fortunate to have a circle of friends that play 40k, even more so that pretty much every single game is fun (I lose more than I win), it is quality time with people that mean a lot to me. One of the most enduring memories was from an older edition, deep-strike mishaps were still a thing. Picture if you will A Tau ethereal nestled in with a squad of fire warriors entrenched staving off my RavenGuard force. Back then I used to love deep striking squads of Vanguard Veterans up the battlefield to harry the foe, on this occasion their jump packs steered them a wee bit off course and they mishap'ed into the Ethereal. 4 of the 5 died. Narratively my friend and I assumed the Ethereal had raised his little honour stave and swatted the 4 marines from the air like an absolute boss. Many years on we still return to that moment and share a laugh. My most enduring recent memory is my last game of 9th edition (actually played after the release of 10th) where Guilliman and a Wraithknight were locked in combat, other units kept pouring in and being wiped out as the main fight raged between the two. Same friend as the Tau/Marine memory, the narrative conjured between us as the game raged back and forth was what 40k is all about for me. Pure daft escapism and quality time with people that mean a lot to me.

[@SmoughTown]

Great video Matt - you and Skared are both big pillars of the community.

[@mhall1142]

So many great memories with friends. Been playing since 40K 2nd and warhammer 4th. A few times stand out: playing a 3 gang Necromunda fight and somehow rolling sixes 3 times in a row to hit, wound and avoid the ammo roll, huge warhammer siege that took longer to setup than play, trying to run over some brettonians with my steam tank only for them all to dodge put the way, someone flaming their own militia to try and also kill some chaos marines after the militia had failed to cross a bridge and the list goes on….

[@ryanwillis6375]

The mechanics of a game are often the least fun aspect of a game. Your opponent, the situations you get into, the incredible dice variance, are often WAY more important to me having fun in a game than just robotically moving across the board and removing models. Any game involving another person should be a cooperative effort to ensure everyone is enjoying their 2-3 hours together.

[@Temphis626]

unfortunately the dice variance is ruined by the massive amount of re-rolls in the game, i'm all for getting rid of most of the re-rolls and bringing it back down to being a dice game again, not a bunch of hitting on 3s re-rolling ones. there are definetly changes that need to be made, but 10th is certainly a step in the right direction from 8th/9th.

[@sarahernst4184]

First off, thank you for this great video! It was actually through watching some of your games only two years ago that really opened up my eyes to cheering and fevering with your opponent to take you down (to be fair, I played Tyranids in 9th, which was just bonkers). So having said that, here is my great moment from a few weeks ago: my friend was playing his favorite ultra marines army against my Nids and turn 1, my Tyrannofex and Zoe’s manage to snipe out two of his best tanks, and some flack took out a few more of his units. He was ready to give up at that point as he was down almost 30% of his army and hadn’t even had his first turn yet. So I encouraged him to keep going and started playing more “cinematically” rather than trying to measure the perfect angles. Long story short, he made an incredible comeback and actually won the game off one point! It was one of the closest and most fun games we had played! Thank you again and keep up the wonderful content! All the best from across the pond!

[@Hnlamqe]

One of the first games I played, years ago, was the Dark Imperium campaign. Since I was new I was allowed to play one tactical sq of BA while my teammate played his Deathwing and Ravenwing. Our opponent play CSM deployed Cypher at the far edge of his DZ. All of my teammate's forces redirected towards that corner for narrative reasons. We lost big but that was fun and a good play on our opponent. 😂

[@warshrew5080]

There was this one time i was playing a game, with Scions versus Black Templars. It was a fun game with a narrative theme around an inquisitor setting a trap for the black templars to 'cull them' as dangerous to the stability of the imperium. While the battle went back and forth, by turn 3 i was going to win on points thanks to a Callidus asassin and the sheer power of my allied Castellan. My opponent opted to do a gambit for the first time and spent the last 2 turns pushing for the middle with all his units. These were his best 2 turns of the entire game despite losses. He turned things around on all flanks even as he made for the middle and in my efforts to block him getting there in ended up just dragging down my Knight Castellan in melee combat with a blob of crusaders lead by Grimaldus. By the battles end he had his minimum units all in range of the midfields despite a stolid effort by me to throw up screens in a hurry. He rolled the dice and got the Gambit turning defeat into Victory! :) I was happy for him and we had a good chat for a few hours afterwards about the highs and lows.

[@joshuakoehne7506]

I definitely agree to an extent. Coming from Magic, this game (like that game) is substantially more fun when its not taken so seriously. My group did an apocalypse game a few months back to finish off our 9th Crusade and it was one of my best experiences. The game is better when everyone is chill and awesome.

[@TheZombiemofo]

This! When people play super seriously and only build optimally meta lists the game just ends up boring. Pick what you think is fun, build a narrative for your game and it doesn't matter who wins or loses!

[@paquio100]

1000000% Agree! It's so much more fun for everyone when people are just focused on playing and enjoying it instead of playing the meta and only bringing the same 5 decks/army lists.

[@terranaxiomuk]

I have always been an imperial guard player. I always have fun. 1 match a couple of editions back, the last guardsman in a squad scored the last wound off a demon Prince who failed a save. My best moment is 6 i scored an "it explodes" twice in a round on 2 monoliths with 2 heavy weapons squads. The guy i was facing absolutely wouldn't accept it and then tried to claim he didn't see either of the 6's i rolled. He made such a scene that i said ok I'll re reoll it all and i ended up blowing them both up again 😂. He then claimed the dice were weighted cheat dice. I then rolled them out to prove they weren't. It was absolutely golden.

[@Nero24200]

While I appreciate you trying to add some positivity Matt, especially since there are so many doomsayers for 10th, people do have every right to be upset with the game and it's imbalances. You did touch on the idea a little but you DO have a studio. For me one of the most disheartening things was painting 90 daemonettes for 8th edition and getting frustrated that I would take entire 30-sized blobs of them off the table before I even had my first turn. Even if you look at the fun side it's hard to ignore that I'm taking large numbers of models off almost immediately after setting them up. The games felt less like "How can I handle X, Y or Z" and more "How much will I lose before I even take my first turn." This was back when alpha strike was massive in the game. It's taken a long time but the alpha strike element isn't as bad anymore (though still isn't quite fixed) and, while people were negative, it was that feedback that changed things. The sad truth is GW are interested in making you buy models first and enjoying the game second. They even cite themselves as a model company, not a game company. A lot of the complaints about the actual state of the game would go away if GW just.. stopped being so greedy. If the rules remained free and you weren't spending £30+ for a codex that's immediately out of date that would make a lot of people overlook more of the bad rule elements. If the difference between a powerful model and a weak model was a lot smaller I'd feel less annoyed about my £50 model getting shot off turn 1, since it would likely require more than a few good shots from a handful of models to take off (and if the entire army can see it it becomes more my own fault). It takes a lot of money and personal effort to get an army ready for the table - at the very least I want it to perform. I don't mind losing but I get frustrated easily when I feel cheated, and it's easy to feel cheated if your opponent does Wraithguard spam in 10th, for example. I'm a firm believer in that an optimist will invent the plane but it's the pessimist that invents the parachute. While I agree a lot of the raw hate for 10th is grossly overblown it's not coming out of nowhere and GW need to sort it out. How they sort things out could be so, so much better than their current approach, but they still should do something. They make far too much money from it's players to ignore.

[@timunderbakke8756]

If you are having fun, you’re doing it right. If you’re not having fun, you’re doing it wrong. Even with a “winning” record.

[@d.brewer140]

I am only just getting back into the hobby after many years away but I remember a time back in 3rd edition Where my hive tyrant was utterly obliterated in close combat by a lone space marine scout. Everyone in the gaming club paused what they were doing to process what had just happened. It was amazing . we all spent the next few weeks chuckling about it.

[@FlailDNEU]

At first I was dreading playing 10th after being quite annoyed at 9th edition through all its numerous books we had to buy, which made me play alot more AoS during the end of 9th. Me and my friends did a play test of AoS and 40k 10th and I knew in my heart we would enjoy AoS more. To my surprise, we all loved 40k 10th edition more because it was so much fun to play. I lost all my games and it was just great fun. I am now loving my Thousand Sons more than ever. With the detachment rules out the window and the new leaders rules it lets me play my army with the models I love. Feels great to have this passion back for 40k and getting my paints back out.

[@tomwhitworth6526]

Such a good video and the montage was excellent! My best memory of 40k is back when I was a teen. Abaddon mini had just been released so my friend and I did a imperial guard v chaos. The despoiler was destroying all before him. That is until a lone stormtrooper threw a hallucination grenade at him. After releasing he does not have a helmet, we were in histeric laugher as the Mighty chaos lord ran around pretending to be a chicken 🤣🤣 thank you for triggering this memory!

[@Witandwitless]

I'll go with 2 moments. Both from 7th because sadly I've moved and struggled to get new 40k groups in the last few years. 1st was with my CSM vs a buddy's Tau. He always built really sweaty lists like bringing double Riptide when they were busted to low point games. We were doing the drunken commander rules (Whatever the deck based objectives were actually called in 7th) I was nearly tabled literally just down to my last Aspiring Sorcerer from my Rubric Marine squad. The Tau player surrounded the unit to do a showy gun him down moment then I talked him into "How cool it would look if the Riptides just killed it in melee" and my little Aspiring Sorcerer survived two rounds of melee against 2 riptides and I ended up winning based on points despite the fact I should have been tabled. 2nd one was with my Blood Angels in a 4 way match. It was Orks, Blood Angels, Guard, and Clowns. Turn one I got destroyed by the indirect from Guard artillery I still had drop pods full of melta to call in but I knew I wasn't going to win this. We'd declared prior that the fight to make sense the Guard were traitor guard narratively. I ended up just trying to help the ork player to win coming up with a lore explaination of since the marines can't win they'd want to inflict maximum damage to everyone and the guard were so well fortified the clowns and orks would struggle. So I dropped my melta in to talk out the artillery and force a bloodier closer game.... I promptly got tabled that round but loved watching the green tide sweep over the rest of the guard lines.

[@clo8076]

AND THIS is why Matt, Dave, and the whole MWG crew truly always bring a smile. Positivity and understanding the whole point of the game is playing and watching an unknown narrative with your friends. Thank you!

[@kdillie1]

So right at the start of 10th my friends Void Dragon with 6 wounds remaining charged my Chaos Knight Rampager in the center of the table, he proceeded to kill the Rampager. I rolled for Deadly demise. 6 Explodes!!! How many mortals to the void dragon? Rolled. 6 killing the void dragon in return. It was amazing

[@duetbreaker]

KZbinr who makes a living from 40k videos tells people "you know just focus on the good"

[@cptsahal5868]

Favourite moment? Typhus rampaging through the lines of my Salamander oponent. His Captain calls the Challenge ( hated this mechanic), and gets slain for trying to stop nurgles mightiest champion. Which turns into a Deamon prince as a result of the challenge. Next turn the prince got shot by a taktikal squad that saw the end of their captain. game went to a draw including us both loosing our warlord in the same battleround. Perfect. Like you, i'm playing since 4th edition. 5th+6th had their problems with some armies. But since GW is concentrating on competitive play and tournaments, the game looses more and more of the good stuff. In "the old days" i would go to "the store" and put my army on the table. Who ever liked to play, i would fight. There whrere small houserules by the owner of the shop. No special chars, no 9/4 iron warriors, no killer DP with dread axe+sprint, no eldar bike rune squad. Yea, he canceled out the real hard stuff. most of us had a 50/50 winrate and it was great. Now i have to build the list depending on the enemy and to my big dislike, keeping away from several guys cause they took the path of the tournament. 10th rules are, for me, the worst to hit the game. Powerlevel (never liked it) getting replaced by fixed points on fixed squads.... no diverse squadsizes, no fixing the list by adding or deleting wargear or single models, no army organisation plan. yes, now i can bring alle the models that i like in 1 game. But in the old days it was fun thinking of how tho get something that spend too much time on the shelf to war. thinking of how to surprise my friends with stuff, they knew i got at my disposal. You are right. The game should be played for fun and i usualy try to make it a good one for both sides. But the rules of several editions lessen the expirience.

[@volcano3493]

Last year I have rekindled my passion for the tabletop hobby. My hobby room now boasts a large table, new gaming mat, terrain and my desire to finish painting stuff is as high as it has never been before. Also Oldhammer for the win!

[@imalu5757]

My work doesn’t allow me to do a of tournaments or events so I only really play casually at local store mid week. I’m a firm believer it’s who you are playing with rather than what you are playing.

[@JotunHeart]

Yes!!!! Thank you Matt! This stuff needs to be said.

[@spifner7968]

Right that’s it I’m not playing anyone who hasn’t liked this video before the first die has been rolled! It’s so true it genuinely makes me sad so many players don’t feel like this 👍🏻

[@jollykimjongun9700]

Very interesting point about Skari, everyone at MWG are entertaining to watch but i totally agree Skari is on another level. He’s an inspiration to us all to make sure we dont take it all too seriously and focus on you and your friends having a good time. Thanks for reminding us Matt. Keep up the good work you and all the boys at MWG

[@un0riginal539]

I've had the pleasure of playing with Skari when I first got into the hobby about a year ago, he's truly an amazing guy to play against.

[@allenw794]

Honestly one of my 1st games. back in 8th. I had some skitari rangers getting charged by tyranid. On over watch my sniper rifle managed to hit and wound on a 6. Back then the 6 to wound was an extra mortal wound. So even though it was a tournament we took a moment to enjoy the imagery of the sniper head shoting one guy into another head shot. I lost that game, but I still remember that moment and had fun. (and learned better positioning. given I lost that game by 2"). In another game my opponent got for 6+ feel no pains on the one chance I had to turn the game in my favor. I lost that one too. The difference was the 1st guy we enjoyed the cool moments. Laughed as I desperately tried to mow through all his bugs (I got all but 1). The 2nd zipped through his turn intent on winning harder and faster to the point where for half of the game I had no clue witch unit was even shooting at me. He stopped the game to take a picture of that four 6+ feel no pains so he could brag to his friends. I just wanted to walk away at that. Because he'd been playing to win and nothing else up to that point. So that cool moments was just salt in the wound in an unpleasant game. It really does come down to the people you play with and remembering it's a game. Have fun.

[@danielmartinezmartinez441]

I like alternate activations. This makes a game more enjoyable. I played Kill Team with some immortals and every necron of that team had a name and a personalty, and skills. I used that theam during a regular game of 40k doing missions and enjoyed them. They werre much much more than a "necron immortal unit" they were very special.

[@ziggy78eog]

I can't remember if it was 3rd, or 4th, edition, but I was playing Space Marines, and a friend was playing Orcs. It was the last turn, and it was literally just my Captain, and his War Boss, left on the board. We could have ended it, and added up points, but we talked ourselves into playing it out between the two, and I took out the War Boss; we added up the points, and I barely won, by a couple of points.

[@theocoppini2906]

I haven't had any fun with 10th so far, to me the removal of many actually cool rules like Wargear or Relics broke the game

[@Rosstafa]

Relics and warlord traits got out of hand. Most of them were pointless and were never used, and some were auto-take broken combos. The current enhancement system is limited with indices, but at least you have to build into a detachment to get access to those enhancements.

[@ryancooper3629]

@@Rosstafa The current system is effectively not a choice. Each detachment gets 4. Of which, 2-3 are bad. You just take the ones that are good each game and don't think much more. They have completely obliterated any sense of "designing" a character. There is a reason the CSM 3.5 Codex is looked back at with such reverrance. That codex was part for the course except for one thing. It had an insane number of hero customization options which meant people had a blast designing "their" warlord.

[@obesesummer]

It didn't break the game it made it aos and that system works well. I do miss customising lists but also its not broken and its a lot quicker and accessible to new players.

[@Yurt_enthusiast7]

Nah I really like enhancements as they cost points, the fact that they didn't cost any points in 8/9th really made some of them hard to justify. What I miss are wargear costs, lack of customizability and randomness. But the two latter has been missing for 3 editions now😅

[@PassengerOnTheMenu]

The last time I played back in 4th ed, my Leman Russ fired its battle cannon at a squad in a building. Rolled scatter and had the ordinace land right back on my other Russ, obliterating it on the first shot. Narratively, the shell bounced right off the building. It was my 2nd game in a tourney and was side-splittingly hilarious for everyone.

[@zeebaa6]

I loved playing games on a giant Lego city I built for Warhammer. Used the 10x10 tiles. However it would make it easier to guess the distance. Still had tons of fun with friends on it

[@Sluggernaut]

Just the other week I was playing a buddy. First time checking out my Tyranids from the Leviathan box. Game of Combat Patrol. I had set up my Termagants right next to my Psychophage to be ready to swarm and kill his Death Squad or whatever from Thousand Sons. Cool. He runs in and kills the Psychophage. Amazing rolls from him. Terrible from me. But I roll a 6 on the Deadly Demise and also kill almost all of my Termagants. I had a group of 20 turn to a group of 6. Lost the game. It was awesome. Im still learning and having a great time.

[@elliebennett3005]

I guess it comes down to who you play and people who make the games enjoyable. Unfortunately Im in the boat not enjoying 40k and have gained preference for heresy as it's more wargamey

[@LeonardoVotto]

I believe maybe focusing on the Fun is the solution to what you are mentioning! I am new to the hobby, so I've been trying to go to my local Warhammer store every once in a while; on Friday evenings, they do game training sessions, and I was there for a painting session, so it was me, the shop manager and another really cool regular and they were doing a bout of hours heresy to learn how to play again. that has the whole focus of that game learning how to play, and exploring a bit of the army personalities, the manager was using a emperors sons army, and from time to time he would let out a "shout" PERFECT LEGION!!! And we were inventing lore for the battle in front of us and focusing on making it as funny and sometimes ridiculous as possible; there was music on the radio, and he mentioned that first edition of Sigmar if you were a slaneshi cultist and made your opponent dance you could get re-rolls if you played dwarfs and had an awesome beard, you also got extra points, and we had an absolute blast with just learning how to play and focusing on the fun of learning and playing, and I even mentioned that we need more stuff like the dancing rules of first edition Sigmar. We have a hobby to have fun if we are not enjoying it; maybe we are looking at the hobby the incorrect way; most of the fun definitely comes from you wanting to have fun. # moredancingrules

[@effindave6909]

I think the core rules for 10th are very good except where there are rules clarifications needed. The faction balance is awful however. I don't mind losing a fair fight but I can't totally understand how people are angry right now. Some matchups are just hopeless. That's just not fun.

[@the_frozen_tortoise]

I think that is where most people are. It's ok to lose some games, you're going to lose a lot. The issue though is looking across the tabe at your opponent and realizing that you have very little if any chance to win before the match even starts. I've had a lot of fun in losing efforts, but no one is going to have fun playing out a game they have no hope in.

[@lucianaurelius2418]

So it’s written poorly and it’s unbalanced…. But u still think they’re good?

[@effindave6909]

@@lucianaurelius2418 Yes, I think the core rules of 10th edition are very good RAI. I think there needs to be some clarification on many of them as they are worded a little to vaguely. I think the balance between factions is horrendous. Overall this edition is going to be very good IF we get some errata and better faction balance.

[@effindave6909]

@@the_frozen_tortoise Exactly.

[@danielcave9606]

Losing on the bottom table at a RTT in a game where we didn't even keep track of points. No stratagems, fast turns, giving eachother oporuntities as often as we took them. Best Game ever, they let me kill abbadon with a rapier lazer destroyer, and took every chance to get characters 1v1 rather than taking the smarter charges.

[@seeya20743]

I honestl6 wish I could play my first game with someone from MWG. Luka, Matt, and Dave seem like the perfect people to learn or first experience the game from.

[@Paranormal-Stupidity]

I had a game where my Calexus assassin was almost invincible. I must have made 30 4+ saves in a row. It didn't win me the game, but it's my favourite model now.

[@mrj3108]

BRING BACK PSYKER PHASE

[@Yurt_enthusiast7]

or you you know, have psychic powers happen in the command phase with all the other buffs

[@David-li4uw]

I think, and I might be wrong, what really frustrates a lot of people (me at least) is that at the end of 9th edition the game was as well balanced as it’s been in my memory. It just became so complicated with scoring and some rules that we wanted it simplified some. I don’t understand why they needed to start completely over when they had a good thing. Another 8th to 9th style transition would have been much smoother and you wouldn’t have invalidated what were some pretty balanced rules. Late in 9th, I was playing Guard against Necrons. My guard was a combo of my custom regiment and Catachans. The Necrons had made it to my main gunline with a 10 man unit of Lychguard and an Overlord in tow. There was some rule I forget that I couldn't shoot the Lychguard because of Overlord. Out of desperation, I dropped in Sly Marbo and he full on Rambo killed the Overlord. I was able to tie up the Lychguard with 2 units of chaff and was able to blast them to oblivion the next turn. Marbo lived up to his meme that day.

[@katarhall3047]

So the issue with this type of video is this: sure go ahead and enjoy it. And people will enjoy it. HOWEVER when the edition comes out, and it's SO unbalanced, and doesn't even feel like an "edition" and more like a "glow up," with so many problems, that's why the complaints are rolling in.

[@Patrickf5087]

And by the tone of the video he is trying to defend why it's fun. And down play the complaining. I really hate these kinds of people. It used to be common sense that of yo7 find something enjoyable that you where to have joy. However we now have set laws about what fun and what isn't and we have "influencers" trying ro convince people it's fun.

[@katarhall3047]

@@Patrickf5087 There in lies the problem of the video. He doesn't NEED to defend why it is fun. It's fun because it's a game that people will decide to play together and enjoy. Just like any other. People are ALLOWED to complain about the game being off kilter, unbalanced, not much of an editioned shift, etc. Especially when those issues are apparent and echoed repeatedly. The fact you say "hate" speaks more to you than anyone that, that you can state such a strong emotion towards people who have an opinion, and a valid one at that. The rest is just vaporware into the ether. Blah blah influences, blah blah laws about fun. Sorry, you don't get to judge how people enjoy their games. And no one is stopping anyone from playing them. But they also are allowed to CRITIQUE it harshly.

[@Patrickf5087]

@katarhall3047 I never said I would judge people how to enjoy the games? That's what this influencer was saying "People were complaining." "But I was having fun," It's in the first min of the video. But people like him saying those 2 phrases and having the tone of "But I was having fun," says a lot about him And yes, I hate people like that it sounds like you dont like people who try to tell others what they can and can't enjoy. I have no idea how you got the idea that I wanted or even do want to judge what people can or can not enjoy Can you please show were you think I said or even implied that "I" wanted to be thr one to do this?

[@katarhall3047]

@@Patrickf5087 Good gods you're the one engaging this, so.....?

[@Patrickf5087]

@@katarhall3047 so I'm "engaging" it by speaking out against doing that? Is that what you ate saying?

[@maxwellchandler9669]

I had a amazing moment recently were a single guardsman lived a knights shooting then preceded to completely fail battle shock and we laughed for like 10 minutes during a tournament honestly no idea why is was so funny but didn't matter made a friend that day

[@DungusDingus]

Tournaments and its consequences have been a disaster for wargaming.

[@aHippieWithKnives]

My friend playing orks stole the relic and made a big tactical retreat to try and hold it to win the game, he survived an entire shooting round from a leman russ punisher, then iron hand stracken makes an 11 inch charge and takes him out in melee, then lives through the fight on death taking no damage!

[@Tyrnak_Fenrir]

I lose most of my games, I'd say north of 80% of them. It's not my army, as I have several and rotate between them regularly (might be part of the problem lol), I'm just not that good. But I still have fun every game I play, since I don't play with the expectation to win, just to make cool stuff happen. A duel of characters, my Thunderwolf Cavalry running down a unit of cultists etc. One of my more memorable moments is from the start of 9th. I was playing Space Wolves against Blood Angels. Skipping past a bunch of context, I managed to charge a Redemptor Dread in the center of his army with a 10 man squad of Blood Claws. By the luck of the dice, I barely manage to kill the Dread, and it explodes, dealing a bunch of mortal wounds, mostly to his own foces. It was such an epic moment. I still lost that round IIRC.

[@eddieg82]

I was at NOVA and I was playing Necrons vs Dark Angels and my Ctan was taking on the Lion and they were literally sitting on the field for 4 straight turns, slapping each other.

[@2LTDarcius]

i recall playing my old buddy some 2nd/3rd 40k using my angels vs his undivided. after my heavy weapon boxie dred rage charged his 10man squad with power claw, it got immoble then in 4 rounds of melee he riped off both weapon arms and double immobled the dred, it finally got fed up and headbutted his powerclaw champ and killed him. the dred survived the rest of the game. while i lost over all the fact it raged in to melee with lascannon an missile arms... and single handed killed 10 chaos by simply bending down and headbutting everyone was the highlight of the match. have never had a match like that since haha

[@kunochijenkins5530]

Waaay back in the Warhammer Fantasy days: We played a siege scenario, i wanted to summon some zombies to start knocking down the castle gate, miscast! Necromancer exploded, St10 hit on the gate and blew the gate wide open. One of the most fun games ever. I still lost tho🤣

[@badfuzz]

Back in third edition. One shotting a Necron Monolith with a single bioacid spore mine. They were so overpowered with the +2d6 AP.

[@Steinerman1]

This entire video makes me smile :) I'm glad you're enjoying Warhammer and having fun :) As for a cool moment. One that always made me laugh was an opponent's Vindicare facing off against my Death Jester (Back during 8th edition). The two snipers traded shots, hurt each other. And then the Vindicare killed the Jester, but due to the rules at the time, The Death Jester's masque ability let him try to fire on death. Which he did, and killed the Vindicare as well. The image of the two snipers eliminating each other from their tower perches was just fantastic.

[@jercharron7380]

Love this video. 👍 I used to be a hardcore tournament player 20 yrs ago and it drained me. A friend/local player got me to pivot away from that mindset and other less comp games and ive been enjoying gaming again with different lenses. I tend to steer more towards skirmish games now. Thank you Matt for TNT campaigns they've been awesome and got us to get a membership. We also are loving the MCPs & 40K narratives (Resident Evil at present)

[@1971mav]

People need to remember this is just a game. Was in a small tournament Played 3 games. W-1, L-2. One of the losses was against a friend and it was the funniest and quickest of the 3 games I played that day. Because everyone else is taking the game so serious and worried about losing. I like to win but wins or losses in games don't affect my life,

[@beststonerr]

Back at the tail end of 6th or 7th (the important part is blast templates were still part of the game), I was playing my guard against demons in a pick up game at a local game store. One of my Leman Russes was getting danger close with a demon prince of nurgle, and fired point blank at him. The blast template deviated, hitting both the Russ and the Prince, and in the resulting explosion both ended up dead. It was such a cinematic moment! Way, waaay earlier (maybe... 4th or 5th?) I had another moment where a Tau Gun drone managed to take off Abaddon's last wound in melee. Just the little frisbee of death saving Cadia years ahead of schedule.

[@willnox1]

I miss templates so much

[@KnudAutlermann]

First of all Mathew I 100% agree... people are complaining too much and not realizing what great game they have in front of them. The narrative is the most fun part. Second of all - It was my second game ever playing 40k. It with my Guard Army and it was just after they got their codex. I picked up a game with a tournament player and he was testing his Ultramarine build against me. I wish I could remember his name. Lets just say I was getting smoked hard. My tanks were either dead or critically wounded and my heavy weapons teams were out of position. All I had in my pocket was 10 guardsmen, a commander, and a CP. I played the grenadier stratagem that allowed the entire unit to throw grenades then I issued Take Aim on them to reroll 1s to hit. I rolled up 49 attacks. Shortly there after 10 primaris intercessors were dead including the primaris captain. I still lost the game but being so successful with that many dice was such a blast 😉

[@timheinrich3752]

I enjoy mutual raging about poor dice rolls (in good fun). For example, a friend of mine plays Eldar and has multiple Aeldari Missle Launchers in his list. Every single time he has used the Starshot missile profile it has done nothing. Either fails to hit, or fails to wound, or gets saved. It's become a meme at this point. The last game he used two of his miracle dice to guarantee a hit and wound against my Maleceptor. I passed the invlun save and he screamed "THIS MISSILE DOES NOTHING!!!!!". We had to pause the game for a few minutes from laughing too hard.

[@TyConquers]

One time I was playing a game of 40k with a buddy who playing tau and I was playing CSM. there wasn't much left but a couple drones and few breacher teams, possessed, and my lord of skulls was down to 1 wound. My opponent charged my lord of skulls I was on zero CP so no overwatch and he rolled 6 to wound and I rolled a one to save it. So my buddies shield drone killed my Lord of Skulls and it was awesome.

[@christophernewcomb4518]

One of the best memories I have playing was with myself and my friend named Chad. It was 9th goff orks, and his Guard. Really fun shooting back and forth, good combats, but absolutely BEST moment was having Ghazgull running through 4 explosions, 1v1ing a Baneblade, all just to get shot in the back by a commisar and being killed!! The BEST game!!

[@Yurt_enthusiast7]

Can't say I'm the biggest fan of 10th ed but none the less I had one of the best game in my 15 years of wargaming while playing it a couple of weeks ago: We played the Leviathan mission were you're burning objectives. 4th turn I was leading heavily. My lone warpsmith's plasma pistol unfortunatly got hot while he defended my home objective against the last surviving lapdog to the false emperor. The suprised Intercessor burned my home objective on his turn, swinging the game back to my mate's favour. My last remaining forces were desperately out of range to punish the wounded corpse-worshipper except for a single Havoc launcher who scored 2 hits , wounding once and the Interceesor failed his last save. Giving me a secondery and a narrow win. Both me and my mate had a blast and we laughed so hard to the unlikelyhood of it all.

[@jonny_kung]

I was playing my Ultramarines against Grey Knights in 9th edition. It was a friendly game against my mate and it was a really evenly powered game throughout until he started getting into the fray with Draigo. Things were getting desperate for me as I managed to whittle Draigo's wounds down to 2 but had nothing more to shoot at him. I made my charges elsewhere round the table until it was just Draigo and his, by this point, small band of terminators left. I just had a noble land raider within charge distance so with a last huzzah(!) I charged the land raider into Draigo. My friend had 2CP to interrupt somewhere but we both thought that there would be no point interrupting with the land raider so we resolved all the other charges first. Then we came to the landy. I manage to score 2 hits - ok ok, I just need to wound now. I get 2 wounds. Ok ok...no AP so it's 2 2+ saves. He rolls a double 1. We both look at each other in stunned silence. Then I start laughing. He's got 1CP left. "Command point?" I say in my best Winters SEO impression. He of course picks up one of the dice and rerolls..................... into another 1! It was a room full of mixed emotions for the next few minutes after that. A charging land raider taking out the legend that is (or was) Kaldor Draigo! That fateful evening will stay with me (and haunt my friend) forever now.

[@lloydjamieson2143]

I love this discussion, we tend to forget this.

[@andrewhiggins9959]

Years ago, during the eye of terror campaign my emperors children chaos lord went on the rampage and chewed through half my opponents ultra marines only to be taken down by a lone surviving scout.

[@timunderbakke8756]

One of my favorite memories was playing “the wall”. One of my friends has a board with a massive wall dividing the table and a gate in the middle. The gate is the only way across aside from flying/teleport, or just taking the hard charge of scaling it. The games aren’t super balanced as we rush for control of the fatal funnel but so many amazing cinematic moments can happen that way. Unlikely deep strikes over the wall by flying units (or a drop pod) or other surprises can just be so much fun.

[@Bluewater1976]

2nd Edition, I smashed a Bloodthirster into a SoB Canoness and she had a relic mirroring the damage back and he killed both her and himself.

[@dustinshorter2391]

Winning/losing is an outcome, playing is the fun part. Enjoy the fun part :)

[@viatka1966]

I took a break from 40k now because from like 10 games I have yet to win one, I play DG and Sisters, my buddies at the club play TS, Custodes, Eldar and knights, and all of these games were over turn 2. Like i remember playing against TS, it's my first turn, I fail to do any damage and then he just comes out with everything and blasts me off the table. Good times. And your position is skewed because skarri is such a champ, he's there to have fun and wants you to have fun. If your opponents are greasy tournament players who bring the most sweaty list they can every time, blast you turn one and then shrug and say: "Why are you upset, just bring better army next time", yeah, no. I have a lot of models which I cannot bring and play because they will be blasted anyway, and warhammer is expensive hobby, I'd like to bring my cool stuff and enjoy playing, but right now it's a simulator of taking my models from the table every time. So yeah, no, thank you.

[@Homer92]

I think to achieve what youre talking about, 10th edition would have needed another year in the cooker. I feel like that's a conversation about the interest of capital aka games workshop, corporate, and the suits that run it, versus the interests of creating a great game. Rushing 10th edition before it was ready was a business and financial choice, and no matter how you play the game, I believe you can agree that's a problem. Arrow must go up tho