We pulled our Trailer; You won’t believe what we weighed!

[@StarMarin56]

I love the "CHARGING STATIONS" hahahaha hybrid is going to change everything within the trucking market/industry and I cannot wait to see the future of edison motors.

[@kengolder1615]

I don't know why this hasn't been the model we were aiming for all along its the best of both worlds

[@billbayer5526]

Why dismiss charging stations? No, of course they're not going to work in the logging industry...at least not out in the woods...but they certainly can have a place in other applications. A charging station at the loading docks or the Amazon warehouse for example. The trucks could be just sitting there for hours at a time so why not use that time to charge?

[@bartoszskowronski]

and you are able to bring a canister of "electricity" to that truck. :edited added ""

[@billbayer5526]

@@bartoszskowronski No, of course not. Just like you wouldn't use a logging truck for your daily drive to work and picking up the kids at soccer practice, you wouldn't use a pure EV for logging! It's not an all or nothing world.

[@bartoszskowronski]

@@billbayer5526 did my joke miss?

[@ARockRaider]

love that you have an extra heavy duty truck and still come in at standard weights! my dad always wondered about this idea of replacing everything from transmission back with a generator and motor axles and its so cool to see someone actually doing it! i just know that once these trucks become commonplace that extra weight bonus you get for being electric will get removed, no way does the government leave that.

[@EdisonMotors]

Yeah, if we reduce it to normal truck weights we’re laughing

[@idontknow31212]

@@EdisonMotors No No, that can't be! how are you supposed to be lighter without some bullshit curved windows to save weight? Right, cannot be possible.

[@xx5zi]

As both a trucker with 27 years in the States and Canada, and someone very concerned about the environment, I think what you guys are doing is fantastic.

[@theBlankScroll]

I love that there are folks like you out there and that you spoke up. NGL truckers get a bad rep for being "burn it all down" kinda guys to us normies.

[@xx5zi]

@@theBlankScroll Its really just science. One of my engineering professors in college said, of science skeptics, "Regardless of whether these folks ever believe it, science will always be there, in their face, just being science. Can't run from it" Yeah, I know- a trucker, with a college education. Weird, right?

[@bondobilly9369]

​@xx5zi uh, science is designed to be questioned, it isn't an absolute. Also: 2020 "trust the science" 2023 "um. Yeah. The "science" was wrong" Remember folks, just because you have a college degree, doesn't mean you're smart, a monkey can be trained to take a test and pass.

[@xx5zi]

@@bondobilly9369 Wow. Is your degree in condescension? Look, I never said to never question science, ever. But ignoring it all together gets people killed, as what happened to millions between '20 and '23. Most of us, especially those who paid attention in classes like microbiology, physiology, immunology, etc, lived. Without complications or side effects.

[@ChibiabosWolf]

Same here but only just a third of your experience. I feel very frustrated the macho anti-environmental "super-truckers" give us all a bad rap.

[@AleksanderLydkunst]

Lifelong tradie here, this hybrid tech in a panel truck or even shrinking it down into service vans could absolutely revolutionize EVERY industry! Absolutely love what you guys are doing, hope to see this in my area in the near future!

[@raphiseth6942]

They are working on a pickup truck version

[@MascottDeepfriar]

they are already working with a couple garages to put together a retrofit kit for pickups. one of them is for an f450 service truck and the other is a dodge 2500

[@AleksanderLydkunst]

Hey guys, I know, I’ve been following these guys since they started lol I’m specifically looking for a way to put this tech into service VANs, they’re more room efficient for trades that require cargo space, mobile shops etc.. I suppose though with the right sized step van one may be able to fit a truck kit into it 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@phillip_mcguinness7025]

They're developing a version for a 2500-5500 3/4 ton to 1 1/2 ton pickup along side DeBoss Garage.

[@francomtz7115]

Is a software specialist included in a purchase of a truck?

[@Raz31337]

I wanna see topsy pull all the things up a mountain

[@gormauslander]

Pretty sure topsy could pull a mountain

[@Raz31337]

@@gormauslander would make for a good video :)

[@jcar1417]

I think down the mountain is the normal direction.lol

[@jamesbarber5410]

I want to see the re-gen with all the things going down the mountain. I suspect that weight is going to produce big numbers.

[@PaulHodgson-gm6lg]

It's a logging truck, mills are in the valley, trees on the mountains.

[@wild_lee_coyote]

Edison Motors. Making the electric truck viable for everybody.

[@EdisonMotors]

Thank you for the support!

[@jaredpena1068]

I like how you are going with the classic charge stations

[@corm7538]

Edison Motors and Scania that's a winning team up right there.

[@bobjones37450]

Definitely can't wait to see this truck do some real work. Maybe haul a load of equipment into the bush then switch trailers and pull some logs back out. We all know that logging equipment doesn't transport it's self to the site.

[@darrellbedford4857]

I can't wait to see it pull a full load.

[@Sporkmeister]

Your philosophy for how vehicles should be made and operated are exactly why I sing your praises everywhere I go.

[@paulnorberg3869]

I grew up in the trucking business, my father stayed in til retirement. Watching this happen gives me chills. I get very excited watching this progress. No stopping ya’s now.

[@Spartanfred104]

The Story of Chase and Edison is great, what yall are doing is amazing for the truck industry and the evolution of this tech. I absolutely can't wait to see where it goes from here.

[@ToddAdams1234]

Chace, I love that “EAT IT TESLA”!

[@josephrhone2758]

I know you dont want to break Topsy yet... but it would be cool to see her at a loaded semi drag race. Your competition is rolling coal out both stacks with the C18 screaming and mashing gears, as Topsy is quiet as a mouse pulling away and winning 😀

[@EdisonMotors]

Once we're done testing, tuning and learning everything we can from Topsy, absolutely I want to take it to the drag races, push it to its limits and see how much it can do at the extreme end. I'm 100% confident it will win.

[@autobootpiloot]

@@EdisonMotors these diesels put out a lot of power too. I think you need three axles for a electric truck to match the power and win.

[@JClaudeo]

@@autobootpiloot The trucks make a ton of power, you are correct - but what you're forgetting is that off the line the diesel is not making full power (its not in its sweet spot RPM range yet), even a VGT turbo will not be at full boost (there will be lag) and the biggest loss is going to be shifting. Every gear change you lose boost, RPM and momentum. If you've ever run a transport truck with an allison transmission (not an eaton automated), you'd be amazed how insanely fast they walk through gears and get up to speed. in a bobtail race, they will slaughter a higher HP truck because once you build boost and momentum - you get to keep it. Now take Topsy, no turbo to spool, no sweet spot RPM (and its lighter than a comparably spec'd truck) Those electric motors will make 100% torque from 1rpm all the way up to their governed speed.

[@economicprisoner]

​@@JClaudeo Actually the torque does drop off once the motor is power limited. Torque in electric motors comes from current. The higher the speed, the higher the voltage on the windings. Power=(Current)(Voltage)

[@gormauslander]

@autobootpiloot The limit will more likely be traction. The horsepower on an electric vehicle can be slightly less than a diesel to match it's performance because it is more efficient in turning that power into movement. A 3rd axle would kill all the competition mainly because of grip

[@paulmadruga9786]

As far as I know you're nor required to have mud flaps on steering axle. I would remove those if so, I think it just takes away from an awesome looking strong imposing truck. Well done guys!

[@JesseMatlockET]

Man, the epitome of understanding the value and implementation of electric drive!! Well done sir, well done!

[@nbrowser]

Although I am an import to BC from Manitoba...seeing Topsy a BC designed, built and engineered truck wearing legit BC plates makes me damn proud of what people in this province can do!

[@kingtut5923]

THE whole world has been waiting for this moment, CONGRATULATIONS

[@ks_hunter7327]

That extra payload equals extra $, low fuel consumption equals $.

[@robertnowak7184]

glad this popped up on my reel and now im hooked here... great story, wicked accomplishment and I cant wait to see this at work

[@billbayer5526]

Regarding positioning the trailer in the exact location to pickup the boggie, you could easily have a simple remote that you could use to command the truck to nudge forward or back to get you aligned perfectly. You could electronically limit the remote to 10km/h or less.

[@legionofanon]

Kinda like a dump trailer truck i once saw, they had a button that engages the starter, so they back up to the trailer, shutoff in reverse, get the trailer tongue in position and hit the button, and bam! Truck backed into the trailer

[@billbayer5526]

@@legionofanon Absolutely but much easier as this truck is electric so already has big motors and you'd just have to extend the accelerator wiring.

[@AnttiBrax]

​@@billbayer5526Or you could literally have the elusive Bluetooth accelerator! (I did some programming work with a can-bus Bluetooth adapter several years back).

[@markkeilys]

If you can monitor the torque the motors are seeing then setting one to turn off when the torque drops too low might be a good idea ... that way once your to highway speed you just run one and don't have to worry about balancing them as much...

[@Minemac2]

I have been waiting so long for these testing video. Really enjoying them, keep showing the progress!

[@capnkirk5528]

Things that are AWESOME: - the truck weighs the same as a smog machine - it has MORE POWER than a smog machine - the CEO of Edison has a valid Class 3 TRUCKING license - AND KNOWS HOW TO DRIVE ONE!!!

[@KMCA779]

- requires less maintenance the production model will apparently weigh less than what they've got right now. Meaning it's capable of hauling more per load too. Honestly this is what we've been wanting from hybrids.

[@capnkirk5528]

@@KMCA779 Why does this work? Like locomotives, this is a SERIAL hybrid. When manufacturers made hybrids, they just pretended. Even the Volt was not a true serial hybrid; it used the engine to power the rear wheels. Current hybrids suck. This is where a car hybrid should be as well - modular, repairable and cost effective. And FAST! BUT NO OEM wanted to go there, preferring to gouge consumers for every last penny. And NOW they are getting what they deserve.

[@loaflyer5663]

Has a valid class 1 license

[@capnkirk5528]

@@loaflyer5663 I stand corrected. Ontario's system does not use quite the same groupings.

[@PistonAvatarGuy]

Smog machine? It still runs on diesel, it likely doesn't have smog-reducing emissions control systems (SCR) and it's probably less fuel efficient in many situations.

[@iamjonqcitizen]

Love seeing the progress, can't wait to see Topsy roll up to the mill! Also can't wait for that truck kit!

[@odirex]

i want to see the Edison drivetrain on an RV 🤤

[@gormauslander]

Me too man. I also want to see it in city buses

[@phillip_mcguinness7025]

Run the generator 30 minutes every other day if you have AC going all day. Light's an AC is about 25% of the energy required to move it, so the batteries would last a long time.

[@JD-yx7be]

Never been RVing but i imagine most of the traveling is at highway speeds which a series hybrid would actually have slightly worse mpg

[@bobstitzenberger1834]

​@@JD-yx7be, but parked far far more than driving

[@phillip_mcguinness7025]

@@JD-yx7be depends on travel location, MPG would significantly improve in mountains.

[@iamtheoneandonly_]

Dude, this is perfect. A hybrid truck makes 1000% sense considering trains have been diesel-electric for a very long time.

[@bdjm8595]

Looking forward to seeing Topsy haul a load, especially up some of those steep hills in BC !!

[@MrQuick999]

Generator for electric motors? If so that's exactly what I wanted. Like old Diesel trains that you can still dig up and get to start.

[@shivermetimber]

It was awesome watching this video. I'm rooting for you fellas! Keep it up!

[@psychowarkiller]

Can't wait to see how well it does in the bush.

[@littlelifters7543]

Would there be a way for you to add an “inching remote” to your system. A wireless remote that you could inch the truck very slowly forward or backwards while you are outside the unit. It would be great for your loading and trailer hitching, some tractors have a system for this to aid hitching trailers and implements etc. just an Idea.

[@Arjay.M]

This is actually brilliant, the amount of power you will generate just in "jake brake" issues, or downhill braking for logging trucks... its almost like logging would be the perfect spot for electric semi's...

[@Detroit_Diezel77]

I want to see topsy pull a heavy duty lowboy with a D9 caterpillar on the trailer in the mountains

[@bjornrydelius2731]

Cool thing to battle the truck-evolution. But dont know why the hood ned to be 1,5 foot higher over engine? Slant that hood for more visibility and aeros.

[@Sah-o5m]

Hood was left "safely" high for testing. Production hoods will be whatever the customer orders

[@xboxbam3979]

This design is quite similar to what me and my brother plan on doing once we got the spare funds to get project trucks. Main difference is I plan on in-wheel electric motors instead of axle motors. I plan on using an old truck frame (very similar to what you got sitting in the back of your garage actually. Specifically a late 30s Willy's pickup if I can find a body kit for it). Glad to see the concept of electric with diesel assist is the way to go. Keep up the good work! I'm excited to see this truck on the roads near me sometime soon!

[@86hardluck]

As someone who has never even been in a truck OR an electric vehicle, I think you guys are great! Best of luck with your creation.

[@plainText384]

Once you do test run on hauling logs, I'd love to see a breakdown on energy usage. kWh used going up, kWh used going down, energy saved using regen, how much diesel you burned (compared to the same test with a conventional logging truck), how many trips back and forth you'd usually make in a day (and how that affects the battery requirements for a pure BEV version), how much you could get out of charging the battery from the grid overnight in a plug-in hybrid logging truck, etc.

[@grifith1184]

would absolutely love to see you convert a tri or quad drivee, twin steer semi.

[@john_doe668]

For the error regarding the regen, make an override for shifting, where is checks if there’s throttle, and only enables regen when throttle reaches below a certain threshold

[@thesentientneuron6550]

9:20 Hey Edison Team! I just wanted to say that you guys are creating something truly incredible and I stand for all the things you believe in about people being able to easily fix the stuff they own, especially when it’s their means of income. Now, I had a question for you guys. Forgive me if I’m missing something because I’m no trucker, but that section of smooth steel that’s inclined downwards seems like a place where you’d be liable to slip and fall if there’s been even a light drizzle. Have you considered making that a step with a lip instead to improve stability or something else so that the person walking on those doesn’t slip? Thanks!

[@Littlebitoferic]

Yup, prototype has more batteries and no step, production truck has steps :)

[@thesentientneuron6550]

@@Littlebitoferic The man, the myth, the legend himself! Thank you, Eric! Side note: I remember an older video which said that you and Chase have been friends for a long time and started Edison Motors together. Reminds me of how a friend of mine and me are - I prefer to quietly work away and keep to myself around unfamiliar people while my friend is the big ambitious one. It’s an absolute treat listening to my friend talk, and it’s super easy to communicate with my friend and I’m guessing it might be similar for you too, so please do treasure your friendship :) Again, just a wild guess on these points

[@noelelnolo9642]

Incredible the great job this team is doing. U r creating a real diesel electric truck for real loggers!!

[@AKH8081]

My hats off to you !!

[@JO3haNsum]

More blessings to you, you are doing great stuff

[@mountainadventures7346]

I think it’s incredible that some guys from the timber industry have came up with this on their own! 👍

[@willyleavitt-pe1cw]

The diesel generator is a great idea to get things going and get sold rigs to work asap. The next gen batteries and maximizing regen coming back downhill with a full load will make pure battery electric a reality before long. It’s the future like it or not and hopefully the way you are going you’ll be in the drivers seat!

[@npatel273]

Just waiting for them to open this investment round!

[@Google_Is_Evil]

You will want a slight difference in gear shifting speed between your two axles to deal with NVH and the axles influencing each other during the shift. Probably work on some hysteresis and regularly swapping out which axle shifts first, to get even wear between them. I don't know how you are controlling these axles, but I would suggest treating them fully individually, so any tuning/programming issues that are not directly related to interaction between them should be isolated and as a bonus, you can do better torque/thrust modeling. Just be aware that you will be putting forces on your frame with the individual control that can cause warping and metal fatigue if not dealt with properly. You are already dealing with that right now with the one axle going into regen while the other is driving, so I assume you have that already worked out.

[@MulleMap]

i really love how you advertise your company by youtube videos👍

[@Beansswtf]

2:25 perfect reason to have some buttons/remote to slowly drive the truck back/forward!

[@Mauro-K]

Just found this channel and the whole concept is amazing, specially reenacting the history where Edison kicked Tesla's arse in execution, (Tesla was amazing as a scientific and engineer but business execution was certainly his strong side)

[@nc-lr1he]

Hi, nice truck, I like entusiasm in your video. About regen trouble, you need to run one axel (master ) in velocity mode and the second axel as slave, in torque mode. slave axel will push torque only if master axel real speed is very far from target speed. it's very hard to explain it but it works 🙂. ciaooo

[@technostuff1141]

Imagine what they could do if they paired up with Liquid piston with how small and light those X engines or the more fitted one (COMPRESSION-IGNITED DIESEL ENGINES) and still use diesel. IF it was possible to replace the main diesel generator with a even lighter generator that uses gas but produces enough power to keep a charge (Idk how much it truly can produce since it's still work in progress), maybe just maybe cut even more of the weight off while still hauling a lot more. I'm no engineer or truck driver but would be neat to see if it could work.

[@NBSV1]

Maybe, if liquid piston ever actually gets into mass production and actually does its claims. In the current world a diesel is about as good as you can get for this kind of work.

[@technostuff1141]

@@NBSV1 This is true and I understand. But would still be interesting if it could be a better alt. I'm already really happy to see someone doing much better than tesla could ever do. (I already don't like tesla it is more harmful to our environment than people realize) thats a whole other topic that I don't think needs to be addressed. But long story short thanks for the time entertaining my idea with a comment.

[@coryw.9086]

Excellent! Hybrids most certainly are the future of transportation.

[@AlexDoel94]

thats a good weight, and its awsome that you guys have already got good ideas on how to make it lighter already, hope that Edison makes it across the pond to the roads of the uk

[@reddo84]

keep going team Jim

[@stuartloggins3691]

I love topsy. All that power makes it fun to drive.

[@samleen]

I wonder if you could have powered trailer axles.

[@xcaliber_gaming]

Hang on to that regen problem. It just may become a good thing when driving under poor conditions. Snow, Ice, Rain, Mud etc...

[@noyabuisness9587]

Seems like the perfect application to make an inching remote for lining up Log bunks or transfer gear

[@henconel8478]

Great to see the progresss. Suggestion for axle regen issue: use torque/power feedback from 1 motor to tell the other motor how much power to apply. Sort of a leader/follower setup. If leader starts regen, so must follower with some logic as to who contributes how much. Don't know if this is possible with the available hardware

[@424io]

Payloadking of the bush

[@andersbrant778]

Eat it Tesla, hilarious!!!😂

[@davewatchedthat]

That has to have felt good realizing you can outperform conventional rigs even on legal capacity. Brilliant!

[@Whateva67]

I know exactly where you guys are. I’ve been working on the Transmountain pipeline for the past couple of years and we drive right past the mill 😊

[@Antoine_ZR1]

I love that intro 0:19

[@hartsfire5706]

this is amazing, awesome job team.

[@WILD4X4D]

You west coast boys really get up to so neat stuff. Best of luck from a very far east coaster.

[@cspargoyt]

Since drive is electric I wonder if you could have a remote that could crawl the truck forward or backward a few inches for hoisting/landing the trailer hehe

[@deantait8326]

That’s SOOOO Canadian , aye

[@benjaminsmith5811]

Great job. ...

[@Iamtherodlight1453.]

So awesome.

[@Bysin769]

Just imagine if you could regen through your trailer axles!👀

[@taylorstout2067]

I can’t wait to see it haul logs

[@hudson4544]

saying stealing teslas idea in the intro could be controversial you guys are in your own lane and need to stay that way wishing you guys the best and so excited for the future

[@henrycarlson7514]

Interesting , Thank You . Happy testing.

[@swamp-yankee]

So I live on a minor highway near a major mill for my area, so I see a lot of loads of lots go by. I’ve been following this, and I think it’s way cool, but all the loggers around me’s newest trucks seem to be from the 90s. Some are a lot older, and have been ran hard and rebuilt over and over. Are loggers going to buy these? I’m just a curious farmer. Not trying to throw shade.

[@Manasvi909]

Save environment 😊

[@18-tolife20]

I'm glad things are still looking up

[@stevematthews684]

Seems that Topsy is proving to be an appropriate name, providing you all issues along your journey. Insider tip - generally, with duplicate electronic devices (twin motors, generators, etc), one will prove to be "lazy" without proper and constant "management". Hope Topsy doesn't meet a similar demise as the original (spoiler alert - condemned to death by electrocution after trying to escape inhumane captivity).

[@bobfleming3400]

Existing charging infrastructure. Love it!

[@tranw]

@2:40, maybe a slow reverse and forward mode keyed to the key fob like some auto manufacturers use for parking, could be used so the driver could adjust the trailer position without having to return to the cab?

[@gittyupg007]

Awesome..lot to take in but lite at end of the hole in the wall.

[@ATXBuckeye]

Congratulations Edison!!

[@redeyedmongoose2963]

You appear to be very tense behind the wheel

[@Sah-o5m]

Nothing like testing your 1.5 million dollar prototype while thousands of viewers take notes

[@milwsdl39]

Awesome 😎

[@kaceesavage]

You guys are the best

[@88Weasel88]

You guys are Awesome !! Keep It Going 💪🏼 Greetings from Germany 🙋🏻‍♂️

[@david.bowerman]

Topsy with a trailer!? Instant click on notification.

[@M_Gargantua]

Are the production trucks going to have a NACS plug so you can top up the batteries overnight or in downtime before a hill climb? You don't need fast charging for what's essentially a giant PHEV prius. I love it.

[@swankshire6939]

I don't know what plug it has but it's always had a charging port.

[@economicprisoner]

Tesla fired their entire charging division, so I am not sure NACS is the best plug to use. But I am biased, running a car with a 50kW CHAdeMO port (lost the format war twice over).

[@M_Gargantua]

@@economicprisoner Doesn't need to be Tesla. NACS was so good that just this year it got restandardized in SAE J3400 and pretty much everyone is switching to them in the 2026/2027 product lines. Now, rumor mill, part of the Tesla Supercharger shutdown was because it turned out that once there was a national standard Tesla wasn't actually doing much if any of the compliance and QA that J3400 and other standards require, and realized it would be cheaper to just kill their internal division than staff up and update their process to comply.

[@raphiseth6942]

​@@economicprisonerNACS stands for "north american charging standard" its the standard plug for north America from now on

[@jnawk83]

The menekes type 2 plug makes more sense here with its ability to do 3 phase AC - no need for all that expensive DC gear in every warehouse and workshop. But I imagine it'd be a cold day in hell before any european standard gains a foothold in North America...

[@Raz31337]

TRUCK YES!!!! 🎉🎉🎉

[@mmtimy]

Should look into installing a remote control box so you can stand outside of your truck walk around back up your truck. When you got your trailer and you can back it up 2 ft if you get it in a long spot trying to hook the strap or anything else to

[@SchneiderClassics]

right on mate, this is cool trucking

[@geraldpaznokaitis1431]

Chase! Quick! Behind you!

[@Torsee]

4:45 Phenomenal!

[@FilterYT]

Very proud of you guys!

[@StillConfusing]

need a remote control on that for the ultimate RC truck or put some motors on the trailer for true "all wheel drive"

[@RedHazeBand]

Ima get my Class 1 and buy one. Get it to market within 3 years. Mo't'driver ca mon gars.

[@NCrowe]

1at load?! Hell yea, boys!

[@davidcoblentz7468]

I would love to run one of these hybrid rigs they make much better sense to me than battery for long haul.

[@raphiseth6942]

They specifically say a traditional diesel is still better for long haul. Because the are running the diesel at peak efficiency and don't have to convert it. If you run a diesel, make it the best one for the application. For their target market (heavy haul and stuff), the hybrid is better, but long haul, it's worse