Worlds First Log Haul with a Diesel Electric Truck!

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Edison Motors

Edison Motors

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@timbuckingham6734
@timbuckingham6734 Ай бұрын
It's great to see you getting the power dialed in, looks like it's time for a Canadian company to put the future of trucking on the map.
@EdisonMotors
@EdisonMotors Ай бұрын
Canada was always the world leader of quality trucks
@youretheChrist
@youretheChrist Ай бұрын
​@@EdisonMotorson behalf of the Pacific Northwest, thank you
@Prestiged_peck
@Prestiged_peck Ай бұрын
Sounds to me like its a good thing that you didnt end up going triple axle on the first truck, you simply dont need the power on the third axle (for highway use) Would it be worth considering making one of the drive axles on a truck like topsy a lift axle for better economy while bobtailing? ​@EdisonMotors
@bentleyjosephhamilton8392
@bentleyjosephhamilton8392 Ай бұрын
What a “kilometer” stone for you guys really great work😂
@mercutilis
@mercutilis Ай бұрын
@@bentleyjosephhamilton8392 ic watt you did there 😂
@savageofthenorthshor
@savageofthenorthshor Ай бұрын
No grant money... Its a crime you guys dont have endless grants.. you guys are badasses!!🎉
@drvanon
@drvanon Ай бұрын
Wait, why do they not have grant money?
@TSDFabrication
@TSDFabrication Ай бұрын
​@@drvanoncrooked government, as usual
@kadmow
@kadmow Ай бұрын
@@drvanon - they bit the hand rather than sucked on the teat.
@Largecar2165
@Largecar2165 Ай бұрын
Tesla didnt have any grants either or ever taken one. these guys are doing a helluva job Being in trucking all my life Its just so weird there isnt any noise to speak of.
@the_undead
@the_undead Ай бұрын
​@@drvanonbecause government grants are extremely difficult to apply for especially in bc where the entire process as far as anyone can tell is pretty corrupt and they would rather spread awareness of a corrupt system than play into it and they didn't need the money. It just would have been nice
@jasontate3365
@jasontate3365 Ай бұрын
Anyone else really impressed by how the seatbelts really always seem to match the occupant’s shirt. That’s the real innovation here! 😂
@hahaha12345678993
@hahaha12345678993 Ай бұрын
bluetooth technology has advanced alot in the past decade
@mealien0808
@mealien0808 Ай бұрын
​@@hahaha12345678993 they found diddy's house 1000+ bottles of baby oil.
@DaveOTech
@DaveOTech Ай бұрын
He talked about this in a previous video. Due to the fact that this vehicle is extremely heavy, 100,000+ lbs, seat belts wouldn't do the driver much good. If this truck were to hit anything other than solid rock, the driver is not going anywhere. The driver will continue to sit where he's sitting and move wherever the truck is going. I'm not vouching for this practice, just let me know what he said.
@wwtrkr3189
@wwtrkr3189 Ай бұрын
Based on the age of the truck, seatbelts are not a requirement. He went over that in earlier videos. Try to keep up, bud 😂
@mfbfreak
@mfbfreak Ай бұрын
@@wwtrkr3189 Having seen videos of truck and bus drivers sliding or being bumped off their seat and losing any and all control of the vehicle, even if it's not mandatory, it would be dumb to omit them. Can't put your foot on the brake if you're not on the seat. Those belts are not just for the driver, in this case.
@oddball_the_blue
@oddball_the_blue Ай бұрын
Also serious kudos to the logging company for allowing Chase and the boys to run the tests at the mills - I can imagine the look on some companies' bosses when asked - "hey, erm.. we want to load up your logs on our experimental diesel electric truck as it's first commercial load"
@PrograError
@PrograError Ай бұрын
it's likely for cheap, plus they get to experience the future...
@MrAdopado
@MrAdopado Ай бұрын
Why would they care? They are already familiar with diesel electric vehicles as was shown in the video.
@bhzaddybhzolby1705
@bhzaddybhzolby1705 Ай бұрын
This is how trucks should still be built, common parts and it even has a damn wig wag. The blend of old school analog technology and new tech is the coolest thing about this truck. No custom one off mirrors, no custom headlight pods, just a simple truck built for the toughest conditions.
@AlexxxDE
@AlexxxDE Ай бұрын
That was such an awesome 1st test. What really caught my attention, was when you guys were running down the road , at 85 KmPH, and having a regular voice conversation in the cab. So quiet in the cab without the engine. That was super impressive. Looking forward to more tests ! Great work. 👍
@challengecompleted55
@challengecompleted55 Ай бұрын
And Topsy doesn't even have a fleshed out interior yet.
@Surfzap63
@Surfzap63 Ай бұрын
Driving a silent truck must be really strange at first
@The_Lone_Aesir
@The_Lone_Aesir Ай бұрын
I also noticed that the cab didn't seem to be super bouncey either. Idk If it's because of the design, or just the roads, but watching other truckers you see a lot of constant bouncing especially at low speeds.
@rdmcfoxinator2131
@rdmcfoxinator2131 Ай бұрын
I know!!! Like Holy Fucking Shit I was Impressed.
@Silverhks
@Silverhks Ай бұрын
​@@The_Lone_Aesirwhat you were seeing in the other videos was probably from the seat. When the air seat is inflated there is a lot of bouncing.
@bd6862
@bd6862 Ай бұрын
This is my recommendation for the regen braking. Put it on a dial so you can infinitely adjust it. This way it can be perfect for every case scenario.
@bd6862
@bd6862 Ай бұрын
Tell me what other people think of this idea
@forceawakens4449
@forceawakens4449 Ай бұрын
​@@bd6862you and another guy had the same idea, they said to use a lever to adjust it, i think it a great idea, even more locomotive design influence on topsy
@EdisonMotors
@EdisonMotors Ай бұрын
Yeah. We’re doing that on the next version
@spencersaumur2033
@spencersaumur2033 Ай бұрын
I think Tesla achieves this with one pedal driving, that the pedal controls how much regen is applied and if you pass a threshold you start cruising and further for acceleration. Off the pedal is 100% or as much as the batteries can take before over heating.
@LarsPantsonFars
@LarsPantsonFars Ай бұрын
​@EdisonMotors having an "automatic mode" for regen that is dependant on the gross weight, would be interesting as well. Just thinkin for the guys that don't want to have to think about their regen capacity.
@charlesmayberry2825
@charlesmayberry2825 Ай бұрын
One of the coolest things about this whole project, is how much documentation there has been of the process. Watching it go from basically a set of rails to a full truck has been incredible. The thing I know having worked in manufacturing is, you've showed some of the big struggles, but I'm over here going, For every big hiccup in the process, there's a hundred little ones. Engineering is a death of a thousand pinpricks, little flaws, oversights, and issues, that have to be resolved. I know all to well this can't have been any different and seeing the working prototype, actually into early testing like this, is incredible.
@jordananderson2728
@jordananderson2728 Ай бұрын
It especially helps that they're using all COTS parts, so they can keep cost and complexity down by using things that already have robust documentation, so it's easy for both them and the end-user to troubleshoot. It's an amazing design from top to bottom!
@SternLX
@SternLX Ай бұрын
Gotta love when your prototype performs way better than expected.
@JohnnyHiemstra-ih3dy
@JohnnyHiemstra-ih3dy Ай бұрын
Congrats on hauling your first load guys. I'm 80 years old retired driver, but I'm just super excited about what you guys have accomplished. God bless you, your crew, and everyone involved.
@JohnnyHiemstra-ih3dy
@JohnnyHiemstra-ih3dy Ай бұрын
May I enquire how to invest some money with you guys?
@georgewelker2846
@georgewelker2846 Ай бұрын
You might want to email them directly they’re probably not going to read a reply to your comment. But thank you sir for supporting them! It’s guys like you who keep them from having to get screwed up with government interference and corruption
@JohnnyHiemstra-ih3dy
@JohnnyHiemstra-ih3dy Ай бұрын
Didn't know I wasn't talking to them.
@tankerkiller125
@tankerkiller125 Ай бұрын
The fact that a massive truck like that is moving with basically zero real sound in insane, I can't wait to see these things hauling stuff around in my area of the US.
@Demopans5990
@Demopans5990 Ай бұрын
Will need noisemakers if they'd me operating in residential areas. I could see an opportunity to do what Japan does with their heavy equipment and have the truck play a jingle
@gordowg1wg145
@gordowg1wg145 Ай бұрын
@@Demopans5990 Jingle Bells at Christmas 👍
@skeeterjames912
@skeeterjames912 Ай бұрын
Hahaha. The EPA will NEVER allow these to operate in the US. They violate tier 4 standards. They're too efficient, they make too much sense. Big green will never allow these to get off the ground as far as it is.
@truhartwood3170
@truhartwood3170 Ай бұрын
​@@skeeterjames912tier 4 limits emissions for off-highway diesels. If it has no emissions, how could it possibly fail that? Every semi manufacturer is coming out with electric semis.
@joedingo7022
@joedingo7022 Ай бұрын
@@truhartwood3170 The range extender probably would make US electric import lawmakers cry, they only care about pocketing money.
@gormauslander
@gormauslander Ай бұрын
I really like how much b-roll there is here. It's like a little documentary about a little slice of the job, which is great to see after being introduced to it by these videos so long ago
@NEEDbacon
@NEEDbacon Ай бұрын
IT almost feels like it could be chopped up into one of those educational shows you'd get shown when the teacher was too hungover to teach.
@hartsfire5706
@hartsfire5706 Ай бұрын
this is so amazing.. i do not think people really under stand just what you have accomplished in such a short time.
@sdpy15
@sdpy15 Ай бұрын
Not to mention the adversity overcome with a so called "green government initiative" who didn't want to see a local company reduce carbon emissions. When Edison motors becomes the standard for logging trucks world wide I hope they put those traitors names on a wall so we never forget the absolute treason they committed.
@edgarbenjoseph3879
@edgarbenjoseph3879 Ай бұрын
Well done, you’re making Canada proud 🇨🇦
@jetstsr1olds613
@jetstsr1olds613 Ай бұрын
Finally there are builders who are humble without bringing politics into the equation. You guys are not arrogant and like to share your thoughts and ideas. Good for you guys. Big Thumbs Up.
@brokenmarbles70
@brokenmarbles70 Ай бұрын
We are witnessing Canadian/world history!!
@p.informatico1320
@p.informatico1320 Ай бұрын
Maybe canadian, but not world... diesel-electric trucks have been used in Europe for a a few years now... In fact, there are a few of production vehicles you can buy, as the Volvo FE Hybrid which have been around since 2011.
@mrsnezbit2219
@mrsnezbit2219 Ай бұрын
​@@p.informatico1320 Volvo FE is a little truck for city duties, not a long range semi truck
@bmad1386
@bmad1386 Ай бұрын
​​@@mrsnezbit2219 yeah the long,tough and heavy hauling of Volvo is still done by their diesel brutes(ie fh16 and fmx)
@mrsnezbit2219
@mrsnezbit2219 Ай бұрын
@@bmad1386 I know, I was just saying that at the moment there is no electric option, I too drive an FH in Italy
@p.informatico1320
@p.informatico1320 Ай бұрын
@@mrsnezbit2219 Have you heard about the SISU Polar Hybrid 900+? Not heavy duty enough for you? These have been working since 2018.
@wild_lee_coyote
@wild_lee_coyote Ай бұрын
Testing is all about learning those parameters. Topsy makes it look so easy. And with a full load of logs people can’t say you are just hauling an empty box trailer. That is legitimate and completely road legal weight 😉.
@rdmcfoxinator2131
@rdmcfoxinator2131 Ай бұрын
I Laughed at the part where they said they were at the Legal limit of 65,000 KGs and weren’t overloading for the sake of testing. Me Seeing right through their Silver tongue!
@NEEDbacon
@NEEDbacon Ай бұрын
Now they need to make sure if a feller "Accidently" gets too much weight put on his Trailer that Topsy will be fine.
@brucie7350
@brucie7350 Ай бұрын
65,000 kilograms, not pounds.
@rdmcfoxinator2131
@rdmcfoxinator2131 Ай бұрын
@@brucie7350 Thank you for the Correction
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce Ай бұрын
All I saw was toothpicks when the Letro stacker was moving.
@Rizz_Messiah
@Rizz_Messiah Ай бұрын
im sure the locals will appreciate the peace and quiet.
@NEEDbacon
@NEEDbacon Ай бұрын
I think they'll be more happy about a log truck that's able to get out it's own way quickly.
@rheidtech
@rheidtech Ай бұрын
No Jakes!😂
@d1oftwins
@d1oftwins Ай бұрын
@@rheidtech Except when the battery is fully charged and you really need that regen braking right now. 😄 Chace said they'll will do the brab brab brab instead of dumping electrically waste heat.
@scottcarr3264
@scottcarr3264 Ай бұрын
Yeah, Added Bonus.
@anthonyc6571
@anthonyc6571 Ай бұрын
I'm sure they ain't going to appreciate the price rise and delays on shipping
@zoutsider88
@zoutsider88 29 күн бұрын
finally got topsy working in snowrunner! so cool to watch you build her from the ground up. then be able to drive it in game! hopefully get to drive one in real life sooner than later!
@realcoolphil
@realcoolphil Ай бұрын
One of the benefits of the system is no frame twist, you won't be bringing the front tire off the ground when you accelerate hard
@jonkeau5155
@jonkeau5155 Ай бұрын
@@operator8014 frame twist happens because the engine and trans up front put out a ton of torque while the rear differentials fight it because the weight of the load, lifting one of the front tires off the ground. This truck wouldn’t do that because the electric motor is directly connected to the differential in the back. He’s not talking about wheelies, he’s talking about literal twist!
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce Ай бұрын
If you try hard enough you can get both front wheels off the ground.
@d1oftwins
@d1oftwins Ай бұрын
Great point! And when the frame isn't twisted it might prolong the longevity of the truck just a bit more.
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce Ай бұрын
@@d1oftwins at least the Rust jacking from the movements.
@kadmow
@kadmow Ай бұрын
@@operator8014 - wheelie both, not just the front right - due to driveshaft torque twisting the chassis. (E-axles put down balanced torque.)
@TallTexasGMan
@TallTexasGMan Ай бұрын
RG LeTourneau was a revolutionary individual not just in the heavy equipment industry but also in mankind. Thankfully, I've had the opportunity to put around in one of those log stackers on a school field trip. I was a sophomore and have to say that I've had the opportunity to be in a loader and a tourna-pull too! I've been saying for years if LeTourneau could do it, there is zero reason we can't today.
@lefthandedleprechaun8702
@lefthandedleprechaun8702 Ай бұрын
My old friend Dwight worked amd went to school fot Mr LeTournea, he had a lot of good stories, i tried to go there but too much tuition for a half broke country boy.
@bradyelich2745
@bradyelich2745 Ай бұрын
His book is a good read.
@GregoryVeizades
@GregoryVeizades Ай бұрын
​@@bradyelich2745Oh im getting that book!
@henrycarlson7514
@henrycarlson7514 Ай бұрын
@@bradyelich2745 So True , Some Very interesting Machinery
@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος
@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος Ай бұрын
Nuclear arctic machines too if i remember correctly
@Nagasaki-In-1945
@Nagasaki-In-1945 Ай бұрын
Wait till Whistling diesel gets ahold of one 😂
@istolejahresshipandilldoit3499
@istolejahresshipandilldoit3499 Ай бұрын
How long do you think the L500 will last?
@justinsane7128
@justinsane7128 Ай бұрын
​@@istolejahresshipandilldoit3499 69 minutes
@Silverdev2482
@Silverdev2482 Ай бұрын
@@istolejahresshipandilldoit3499 At least 25 seconds
@phillip_mcguinness7025
@phillip_mcguinness7025 Ай бұрын
They would spend DAYS trying to kill Topsy.
@kentuckyboy1
@kentuckyboy1 Ай бұрын
​@@phillip_mcguinness7025I mean seeing that the cyber truck made it at least two videos and it was mostly glued together. Unbelievable topsy could make it a whole month.
@lmfarms4611
@lmfarms4611 Ай бұрын
I dove for many years and got use to the sound of the rumble of a diesel engine. Technology sure has changed in the last couple of years. Great job.
@Lochlann13
@Lochlann13 Ай бұрын
I know Topsy is the star of the show here, but that Letourneau is so cool!
@iBackshift
@iBackshift Ай бұрын
Can you imagine back in the day when that Letourneau had a 12v71 Detroit in it? You'd hear that engine all the way to Alberta, haha.
@northhammerfl
@northhammerfl Ай бұрын
Hearing, what's that LOL
@Ray-Koto-McLellan
@Ray-Koto-McLellan Ай бұрын
WHAT WAS THAT??? *Said by an Albertan*
@rickdommett
@rickdommett Ай бұрын
for Canada.........sure glad to be one of the guys that saw this. WoW you must be so proud of the team to be where you are...........
@JustAnotherNewProject
@JustAnotherNewProject Ай бұрын
I don't always get a good grin watching other people's projects come to life. But watching this is hurting my face. Great looking progress!
@Everstrife
@Everstrife Ай бұрын
Nice to see the idea come to full stop, rubber meet pavement. You got there at lot faster than I thought. Congratulations. It has to feel pretty darned great to drive your machine in the real world and seeing just how good she performs against the old way of doing things. Seems like a slick ride!
@2koolchris291
@2koolchris291 Ай бұрын
This is the future of technology I’m excited for. There’s so much untapped potential that I’m glad you saw could be harnessed. Topsy is awesome. What a build.
@billroe7832
@billroe7832 Ай бұрын
Congratulations! monumental accomplishment! boldly driving into the future. when I started hauling logs 45 years ago if you would have told me we would have an electric truck in my lifetime I would have told you not happening. can't wait for the down the mountain out of the bush into the mill episode.
@mrwess1927
@mrwess1927 Ай бұрын
Comes back with a full battery!
@Joe-xq3zu
@Joe-xq3zu Ай бұрын
"We are loaded right? It didn't feel like I was loaded!" "I can't even feel there's a load behind me." That right there tells you this truck is going places.
@vadimblin
@vadimblin Ай бұрын
Literally the biggest flex you can have as a trucker!
@Rocker-1234
@Rocker-1234 Ай бұрын
@@vadimblin especially when its an actual load not the light stuff you see other ev makers testing with
@vadimblin
@vadimblin Ай бұрын
@@Rocker-1234 yeah... if I'm not mistaken he was speaking about 65 metric tons! That's a serious load! Also you could actually hear the electric motors work. Still having spare power speaks for future models made for the oversized loads! Really wanna see a Edison howling some mining equipment or stuff like this... 120/150 metric tons
@Rocker-1234
@Rocker-1234 Ай бұрын
@@vadimblin running bdouble so yea 60+ ton is very likely. honestly, id love to see em ship one over to aus once they get the sleeper stuff sorted and get it closer to final. seeing how well itd hold up in the outback running mining road trains and/or heavy haul would be freaking awesome. afterall we are the place where trucks come to either die or leave a legacy. not to mention, the only ev option ive seen posed over here for long haul trucking is massive heavy replacable batteries that go where the engine used to sit. just overall impractical especially considering most outback towns wouldnt be able to afford to do stuff like that. having something like edison come over shake up the game would be awesome.
@vadimblin
@vadimblin Ай бұрын
@@Rocker-1234 dang, totally forgot about your road trains! Those are amazing! Compared tho that our German "gigaliner" are nothing but toys
@johngato737
@johngato737 Ай бұрын
Oh man! THIS is the kinda testing I’ve been waiting for. Can’t wait to see you boys get Topsy muddy!
@rdmcfoxinator2131
@rdmcfoxinator2131 Ай бұрын
What kind of wash will she get? Automatic Truck wash? Girls in Bikinis? The Fattest Rolls to give sponges to? 😂
@chadeyles9290
@chadeyles9290 Ай бұрын
so cool thats right in the backyard in merritt im proud of ya boys
@chubbysumo2230
@chubbysumo2230 Ай бұрын
the sound is so quiet, its so cool. pulling a fully loaded trailer with just roadnoise.
@mincemeatpie2543
@mincemeatpie2543 Ай бұрын
I would love to see a similar Diesel truck running the same trailer, same load, same distance, same time of day and check the fuel consumption of that truck. Then, after running Topsy thru the test, run the onboard generator until batteries bet back to the same capacity they were at before. You could get a pretty good idea of real world efficiency compared to a similar truck.
@scottcarr3264
@scottcarr3264 Ай бұрын
Yes, that would be a good test, and added info for your Sale Brochure.
@jstrichie9066
@jstrichie9066 Ай бұрын
They can't do that test or no one will want an electric truck .it will be pointless to get one
@nesyboi9421
@nesyboi9421 Ай бұрын
​@@jstrichie9066I have confidence that you are wrong.
@nicholashaines4136
@nicholashaines4136 Ай бұрын
It would depend on how efficient the gen set is, if they have a good power grid it's going to be hard to beat the from the wall power but the point of the Jen set is to bail you out if you don't have enough battery it seems to me that having the batteries into engine separate will allow you to configure the truck to your actual use case I bet there's a lots of use cases where they're going to be better off just packing with extra batteries because a lots of heavy equipment doesn't travel terribly far
@nicholashaines4136
@nicholashaines4136 Ай бұрын
One of the things that the ice heads don't understand is that electrification is going to make the power grid operators boats and boats of money that we could you know encourage them to improve the infrastructure with
@raywagner8016
@raywagner8016 Ай бұрын
Been awhile since I've seen a Letourneau. I think I've rebuilt every component on them when doing my apprenticeship back in the early 90's before the Wagners replaced them.
@Amanda-ej7pl
@Amanda-ej7pl Ай бұрын
Why did the Wagner's replace them?
@raywagner8016
@raywagner8016 Ай бұрын
@@Amanda-ej7pl. I was in the Prince George BC area when this happened around here. I think most mills went to the hydraulic Wagner units due to lack of electrical system knowledge. There aren't too many people these days who grasp the generator and motor set-ups in the Letourneaus. They have both AC and DC systems. Easy for me to understand as a Motor Rewind Electrician, a little tougher for an average Heavy Duty Mechanic to understand. Topsy is actually a simplified Letourneau technology by replacing old mechanical contactors with frequency drives.
@Amanda-ej7pl
@Amanda-ej7pl Ай бұрын
@@raywagner8016 wow that actually helped me understand Topsy. My husband does some side work with an electric motor rewinding company. We do service calls so I have a decent understanding of high and low voltage systems as well as mixing AC and DC. I'll be looking for the manuals online to understand it a little better.
@Xantosh82
@Xantosh82 Ай бұрын
love that you are doing real testing and not just throwing some weights on it to simulate a load!
@BillyHudson1
@BillyHudson1 Ай бұрын
why not get paid to test xD
@daniellewis984
@daniellewis984 Ай бұрын
Respect to all the folks making this happen. So you figured out how to make the world's best semi. Now you gotta figure out how to make the factory that makes them without going broke.
@t3itguy
@t3itguy Ай бұрын
I wonder how many folks behind you didn't realize they were witnessing history in the making. Really cool to finally see Topsy putting in the work. Keep it up!
@matthewcox7985
@matthewcox7985 Ай бұрын
I also wonder how many people thought they had gone deaf when that quiet truck went past!
@iandyck3755
@iandyck3755 Ай бұрын
I know she's electric but I'm still always shocked at how eerily quiet Topsy is. Great stuff and i love to see it! Some day I'll be rich enough to buy an L500 with the twin seat sleeper cab
@exiledengineer1697
@exiledengineer1697 Ай бұрын
65000 kg is a nice sized load! Worked around LeTourneau equipment for years and listening to the operator bang on those contactors brought me back. (The motors have only one speed, so to go slow, they turn them on in short bursts)
@memsu06
@memsu06 Ай бұрын
They could improve it now days with a VFD on the motors.
@exiledengineer1697
@exiledengineer1697 Ай бұрын
@@memsu06 yup, and they have on newer models with computerized joystick controls, but they’re not bullet proof and simple enough for a 10 year old to repair in the field with a minimum of parts. And last 60 or 70 years with only replacement of simple individual components and a wiring diagram you can draw on a napkin. Just like Chance’s 50 year old trucks vs Topsy. He has to have his programmer ride shotgun during shakedown with Topsy. Result might be great, but it aint simple.
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce Ай бұрын
Ability to be fixed on-site without the need to get someone in.
@bradingles5281
@bradingles5281 Ай бұрын
She's come along from a set of rails you started with very impressive truck
@MonirulIslam-fc5lv
@MonirulIslam-fc5lv Ай бұрын
This truck looks sick..
@BudtheBeekeeper
@BudtheBeekeeper Ай бұрын
It has been something else watching you guys come this far, the inspiration is never ending. I've been shouting this from the rooftop for years, someone needs to make trucks simple again, I've followed Rich for a long time now as well. You guys are going places!
@mikeonavtx
@mikeonavtx Ай бұрын
I am not a semi truck guy by any stretch of the imagination. Never even sat in one. I have really enjoyed watching your journey with topsey! Congrats on your first loads! It was great to see your excitement when you pulled out with that first load! Keep up the great work guys!
@brianpenland973
@brianpenland973 Ай бұрын
CONGRATULATIONS on your success!!! Your determination and dedication will make EDISON MOTORS a household name, round the supper table, in a lot of homes and businesses, across Canada and the US. North Carolina is watching your successful progress and CHEERING YOU ON!!!! I, personally love the truck and the capabilities, it has!!
@Sah-o5m
@Sah-o5m 21 күн бұрын
I agree. I think these Edison guys are going to plow through the challenges and yes in the future, proud papa's are going to point to Edison trucks out on the highway and say "Let me tell you about that rig.....its special"
@frank7911
@frank7911 Ай бұрын
Downhill regen could be configured on the road by estimating the load weight under acceleration. Just measure the speed increase rate for the applied power and scale the regen accordingly. reset the function at every full stop longer than 30 seconds to avoid surprises when unloading =)
@MarkRose1337
@MarkRose1337 Ай бұрын
Some manual control is still good for when traction isn't perfect like in mud, snow, and ice
@moonasha
@moonasha Ай бұрын
should honestly just be a lever they can move up like a throttle. Would give finer control when going downhill.
@forceawakens4449
@forceawakens4449 Ай бұрын
​that sounds like a great idea, like the dynamic brakes on a locomotive
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce Ай бұрын
Some could form like a JBrake.
@terryborth7436
@terryborth7436 Ай бұрын
Maybe base it off if there was air ride suspension it could be controlled
@iceman45ification1
@iceman45ification1 Ай бұрын
It's amazing how easily those motors pull all that weight. This is the setup they should've been using from the start for the trucking industry. Nice work fellas!! 🏆🎖🏅🥇
@silentjohn117
@silentjohn117 Ай бұрын
A bunch of from the industry guys making the truck they would want. Working out of a tent beating Tesla to market, truly something historic to watch. Keep up the great work guys, she looks and sounds great.
@anthonyduffy6953
@anthonyduffy6953 29 күн бұрын
That thing is awesome. Cantvwait to see some mud tests in it
@superdupergrover9857
@superdupergrover9857 Ай бұрын
I can't wait for off road winter testing! Electric axles just gives you so much control over traction. And the traction control can be changed drastically on the fly with software changes alone.
@aidanrace814
@aidanrace814 Ай бұрын
@@markplott4820And? The Tesla is a highway truck, a completely different use case
@forceawakens4449
@forceawakens4449 Ай бұрын
​@@markplott4820topsy has 2 eaxles for the rear axles, and future designs can have more axles or awd
@forceawakens4449
@forceawakens4449 Ай бұрын
Its not all about total power, electric has that in abundance, its about power usage, no point having all that power if using it drains it too quickly
@Surfzap63
@Surfzap63 Ай бұрын
@@markplott4820Why not?
@whatsoperadoc7050
@whatsoperadoc7050 Ай бұрын
@@markplott4820Different use cases, and Tesla had a five year head start and still isn’t delivering
@blacksunshinegaming9315
@blacksunshinegaming9315 Ай бұрын
Love that the truck is passing its tests with flying colors. Its been amazing watching you guys go from concept to prototype to actually testing it on the road. Congrats
@bigtddybr
@bigtddybr Ай бұрын
Considering how little power you used, I'm wondering how Topsy would work hauling an Australian Road Train? The initial pull off the start for these trains is enormous. It would be an interesting test of your truck's capabilities.
@whatusernameis5295
@whatusernameis5295 Ай бұрын
that initial start is where electric really shines so my bet is on it having no problem whatsoever
@joshuacheung6518
@joshuacheung6518 Ай бұрын
How long are the road trains? Might need a little more oomf probably?
@InfestedTemplar
@InfestedTemplar Ай бұрын
Might want some powered trailers to help with starting and stopping for that
@Turksarama
@Turksarama Ай бұрын
@@joshuacheung6518 The largest ones allowed on any roads are 4 trailers and a bit over 130 tonnes. Private roads on e.g. mines can see over 200 tonnes, but I think at that point you definitely need powered trailers. Keep in mind the terrain these run on is pretty well perfectly flat.
@vincentgrinn2665
@vincentgrinn2665 Ай бұрын
theres actually very few 200ton trains that run dual power setups, most of them are just the prime mover most of the trucks they use for those are 1000hp, topsy is only 670hp because of the old eaxles, the new ones are 1000hp for twin drive, 1500hp for tridrive so might need to wait abit before iron ore road trains can be pulled road trains are all a max of 60m long iirc, the newest largest ones are 5 trailers with 230 ton payload(for private road use)
@adamlee4252
@adamlee4252 Ай бұрын
Oh, the Cat 3406, rest in power, old friend! 🐱 Your purrs and growls on the road will be dearly missed as we embrace the electric era. From hauling loads to conquering tough terrains, you were a true feline force to be reckoned with. Here's to the memories of your mighty engine and the trails you've conquered. Farewell, Cat 3406!
@newatthis50
@newatthis50 Ай бұрын
I too will miss the growl of the diesel
@nkill6
@nkill6 Ай бұрын
He's making a version with a scanty 750 in it
@davidshepherd-sj2tj
@davidshepherd-sj2tj Ай бұрын
​@@newatthis50ohh that growl ain't gone yet.... This is basically old tech and if it huffs and puffs on fossil fuels..... Then it will nvr be good enough for the " green " agenda whether or not the electricity is made w Fossil fuels or not far far away.... These types don't think that far down the line .... All they will see is it still has a smelly carbon burning motor on it .... And that's not gonna cut it !!! For one this could potentially go further overland on the same fuel tanks.... And they want trucks that need charged every 30 min , otherwise how would they convince everyone that they r going to have to move into their 15 min cities .... Exactly 💯 % I mean what they've built here is cool , but as w the loader and many other large machines ... Diesels over electric isn't a new concept and if this would have fit their " green" agenda this could have been achieved decades ago
@jeffsadowski
@jeffsadowski Ай бұрын
Before it was a concept. Now it is a truck. Congradulations. Awesome!!!
@rubberduckyblock3856
@rubberduckyblock3856 Ай бұрын
Ive been watching Chase's contents since before he started Edison Motors and im so glad its came this far.
@subwarpspeed
@subwarpspeed Ай бұрын
Still not learned to spell his name right though, 😉
@forceawakens4449
@forceawakens4449 Ай бұрын
That big ol twinsteer at the end 😮 that would be an awesome retrofit right there
@vincentgrinn2665
@vincentgrinn2665 Ай бұрын
iirc one of the trucks theyre working on for retrofit currently is an oil service rig, which is twin steer
@bmad1386
@bmad1386 Ай бұрын
​@@vincentgrinn2665 twin steer Kenny's are the most macho looking trucks out there 😂
@macster5187
@macster5187 Ай бұрын
Shorter wheelbase day cab for a grain hauler would be amazing in the hills. Haul all day and only hear the engine run once or twice somewhere in the middle. I'd recert for my CDL for that opportunity
@Slane583
@Slane583 Ай бұрын
I wonder how well a setup like this would do in a similar day cab but configured as a dump truck to haul around dirt and gravel.
@mikey_scog
@mikey_scog Ай бұрын
​@@Slane583probably great tbh
@bmad1386
@bmad1386 Ай бұрын
​@@Slane583 this setup basically has heavy duty hub reduction axles as the default, so as a dump truck, it's probably more efficient to use a long 8x4 chassis like the big ones they use in Asia and Europe(NA has strangely short dump trucks)
@Slane583
@Slane583 Ай бұрын
@@bmad1386 They're not strangely short. Dump trucks here aren't setup just to go back and forth from a quarry to a job site. They also deliver loads of gravel or top soil to peoples houses. For being a big truck it still needs to be small enough to maneuver into someone's driveway. If it got too long they'd have to pull into the neighbors yard just to back into where it's going and people don't like that. There's probably also some state regulations that say road based dump trucks can only be a certain size. The biggest dump truck I've seen on the road here is one of the articulated off-road dump trucks. But it was only traveling less than a mile from where it came to where it was going.
@bmad1386
@bmad1386 Ай бұрын
@@Slane583 like I've said, most of the dump trucks in the US are short, at least relatively speaking.
@rblueroan2205
@rblueroan2205 Ай бұрын
Design reminds me of an up graded Pacific logging trucks
@wwtrkr3189
@wwtrkr3189 Ай бұрын
I've been following since the early days. THIS is the days we've ALL been waiting for. Congratulations 🎉
@zeusman123
@zeusman123 Ай бұрын
Love your use of the new invisible seat belts!
@broncobill1104
@broncobill1104 Ай бұрын
Blue tooth seat belts for the win! Lol
@RedHair651
@RedHair651 Ай бұрын
😂😂
@markm0000
@markm0000 Ай бұрын
That’s the kind of engineering you want to see. No bs all gas.
@saxplayer1216
@saxplayer1216 Ай бұрын
I noticed that, too. He has a short where he talks about how it's safer to not have airbags because the driver would lose control in an accident when they went off. You know what else causes a driver to lose control in an accident? Getting jolted out of their seat because they weren't wearing a seatbelt.
@Surfzap63
@Surfzap63 Ай бұрын
Maybe just lap belts?
@ARockRaider
@ARockRaider Ай бұрын
I have a theory for why it didn't feel like it was loaded at first. Normally the torque of the engine going down the drive shaft induces an equal and opposite torque against the frame, those forces can be slightly felt in the cab as the frame bends. In Topsy all that torque stays in the differential housing so no movement is induced on the cab.
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce Ай бұрын
And you don't get that head bob on shift... 5 gear changes and you still haven't crossed the road yet.
@ARockRaider
@ARockRaider Ай бұрын
@@wobblysauce that will certainly improve driver comfort! No doubt about that.
@Ostsol
@Ostsol Ай бұрын
Nice! Testing longer hauls would be great, too, and then there's going up and down the mountain logging roads. As it is, it's still amazing how far you've come.
@ZombieKillerRex
@ZombieKillerRex Ай бұрын
Greatest work! Rooting for Edison all the way. My 91 Toyota is waiting for it's conversion!
@zelyzkocz283
@zelyzkocz283 13 күн бұрын
31:15 to 31:50 Respect for cameraman. Thats one hell of a good shot
@MrSaemichlaus
@MrSaemichlaus Ай бұрын
I love how those loaders look quite simple from the outside, I can spot three rack and pinion drives including the one for steering.
@k9wiREless
@k9wiREless Ай бұрын
😮 not only did buddy build his own truck to do this, but he’s planning on building everyone else a truck to 😮
@spammerscammer
@spammerscammer Ай бұрын
Once battery technology advances he might even sell one.
@zelenizub2036
@zelenizub2036 Ай бұрын
​@@spammerscammerlithium batteries no thanks.
@Stubones999
@Stubones999 Ай бұрын
@@zelenizub2036 I think he is using lithium iron batteries for longer life, more cycles and almost no risk of fire.
@justinlynch6691
@justinlynch6691 Ай бұрын
I've been dying for this day. Unbelievable. It's such a rush to see that fully loaded going down the road. So incredibly impressed and excited for all of you.
@markahad6583
@markahad6583 Ай бұрын
Guys, that was awesome! Here I am, a retired mechanic from Ontario watching your innovation and excitement. You’re on to something real big. Just keep it happening. Cheering you on.
@josephmarshall7549
@josephmarshall7549 Ай бұрын
This is one of the coolest trucks ever. You guys are geniuses!
@ArK047
@ArK047 Ай бұрын
Absolutely phenomenal performance seeing a loaded train glide through town like a ghost.
@hehe-mq2bk
@hehe-mq2bk Ай бұрын
the fact that u were actually doing pure electric om these two hauls is so cool
@vincentancion1822
@vincentancion1822 Ай бұрын
Congratulations to the whole team. Finally a real Canadian achievement Tesla can go hide and be ashamed because guys you have achieved something great. Congratulations👍👍👍👍👍
@blendpinexus1416
@blendpinexus1416 16 күн бұрын
seeing the drivetrain accomplish this makes me excited for the coach bus conversion my brother and i want to do.
@loudsonicbug2195
@loudsonicbug2195 Ай бұрын
I love the fact that you don't put music over it and just let us hear the sounds
@barrycastella
@barrycastella Ай бұрын
I love your ideas. I find it amazing how different things are done in different countries. In Australia, the trailers all load and unload themselves and a lot of the trailers have air tensioned straps tom hold the logs down so as any logs shift they just automatically tighten. Love the truck you're making and hope you can ramp up production and put the big companies in their box.
@timpattydaechsel5988
@timpattydaechsel5988 Ай бұрын
Great video on project Topsy’s progress guys …..So doing some slide rule & napkin figuring , 300 k/w for 180 km...@ 12 cents KW/hr that’s roughly $36.00….. same work done with diesel ,,, rough estimate, 80 litres or about $150.00 ……. Great! …… but what I’m really forward are your numbers when you bring a full weight load off the mountain, I want to see what loaded regeneration wattage is compared to K/W running up the mountain empty ,,,,, I believe those are numbers that will get investors really excited …..good work so far guys and keep the project moving forward
@douglasmayherjr.5733
@douglasmayherjr.5733 Ай бұрын
Glad to see Topsy is working great with a few lbs of logs behind it. The last load looked pretty impressive. I really appreciate the way your company innovates with common sense. Thanks for the Videos. Looking forward to what’s next.
@justinmclean5778
@justinmclean5778 Ай бұрын
yup. this is it. this is the future of not just trucking but ALL vehicles.
@ag-om6nr
@ag-om6nr Ай бұрын
Hybrid makes sense !
@Singularity.82
@Singularity.82 Ай бұрын
Small commuter vehicles, and local daily commercials, won't need fossil range extenders. They'll just be fast charged at home/on site. Generators and additional hybrid systems eventually will fall by the wayside as electric technology and infrastructure improves. The benefit of this in the future will also dramatically reduce the cost of everything that relies on oil, because the demand for it will be reduced so much when we don't need to burn it for fuel.
@simpledj509chromo7
@simpledj509chromo7 13 күн бұрын
I love what you guys are doing. Looking forward to the steep grade stuff at 105,500. I genuinely want you guys to succeed. I love my 18 with the big Cummins but this is cool. Stay well, stay safe, and keep up the good work.
@RainbowGin
@RainbowGin Ай бұрын
This was a monumental day for not just edison but the world as a whole. But can we take a moment to recognize juse how awsome that LeTourno loader was, like that think was a beast!
@johnnymissfire8464
@johnnymissfire8464 Ай бұрын
I think a good test would be to participate in one of those up hill fully loaded drag races.
@H4mAdAr4
@H4mAdAr4 Ай бұрын
Finally some proper testing of a electric vehicle! You guys are awesome, keep on making those tesla engineers cry!
@sdpy15
@sdpy15 Ай бұрын
Congrats on the first haul! I was born and raised in the Okanagan and can absolutely see the viability of a diesel electric truck for hauling out of the hills in this area. Hopefully you guys get the provincial support needed to take this proof of concept all the way to large scale production without any more interference from the government.
@alienworm1999
@alienworm1999 Ай бұрын
I understand the appeal of having that log loader be a diesel-electric. It greatly simplifies the overall design, and removes the need for complex shafts or hydraulics running across the hinge point.
@iadc43
@iadc43 Ай бұрын
So amazing! Topsy is simply incredible in how it is doing. Can you do a little section of showing a conventional diesel truck loading and driving parts of the route to show the differences in effort and sounds between the two rigs?
@AL-pc6bl
@AL-pc6bl Ай бұрын
Really hope you guys make it out of B.C. with your trucks in the future. Id really like to look at how topsy's model will be for the states. Prayers to you and keep trucking.
@ALTruckerDad
@ALTruckerDad Ай бұрын
Hell yeah, Chace! That's awesome! I know you feel vindicated from all the detractors who claimed things like "It only works without a load" and BS like that! Nice work to all of your team!
@snollerskater7184
@snollerskater7184 Ай бұрын
So sick. Y'all are the near future of trucking. It's a rare moment where you got to see someone innovate like this. "If we're going to bother to do it, we're going to smash the ball right out of the park"
@dougdavidson175
@dougdavidson175 Ай бұрын
Edison Motors: Making Canada Great Again! Thanks for all of the team efforts. Take care & stay safe.
@WestCoastWheelman
@WestCoastWheelman Ай бұрын
I know you haven't talked much about who's pre-ordering trucks, but I'm willing to bet the Nickel Brothers or Belton Brothers are just salivating right now. These would be PERFECT for house moving, especially with a built in hydraulic plant for lifting or leveling out dollies enroute.
@matthewgray3375
@matthewgray3375 Ай бұрын
I rate your truck its cool and everything, epic to see it working!...….that Le Tourneau still blows my mind, all his creations do, such a epic company, he was so far ahead of everyone else at the time
@landcruiserchewy
@landcruiserchewy Ай бұрын
Sweet ride! A Canadian success story, well done!
@StoneyMeyerhoeffer
@StoneyMeyerhoeffer Ай бұрын
We are watching history folks. I have been watching this truck for so long. This is top level engineering and a mechanic's common sense in concert. I love it. I wish I had a reason to need one. lol.
@TheHurkulez
@TheHurkulez Ай бұрын
Diesel + Electric = Hybrid
@almfreak
@almfreak Ай бұрын
Awesome work, guys! Super happy for a successful test! I agree with one of the other commenters that an adaptive “Loaded” regen scheme based on the load during acceleration would be pretty clever, but I’m sure you can’t beat the simplicity of manually adjustable regen for the time being. I’d love to see what kind of power you can recapture with that much weight rolling downhill!
@macattack123mattc3
@macattack123mattc3 Ай бұрын
While I'm not a truck driver, I am into engineering, so: I would second another commenter's recommendation for a lever or some other control for the amount of regen. It would allow you to disable it when just coasting on flat ground, and when you have limited traction, but also to crank it up when you want to.
@goosenotmaverick1156
@goosenotmaverick1156 Ай бұрын
I like this thought. I wonder how much extra work that would be. Surely can't be too bad in the grand scheme of things? I'm just a wrench, I have no idea. Just sounds like a good idea to me.
@kevinjohnson5389
@kevinjohnson5389 Ай бұрын
​@goosenotmaverick1156 they should be able to wire in a potentiometer, and have it nearly infinately variable. That should be reasonably easy
@goosenotmaverick1156
@goosenotmaverick1156 Ай бұрын
@@kevinjohnson5389 that's kind of what I figured was possible, but it's way outside my wheelhouse haha
@patrickbeck4062
@patrickbeck4062 Ай бұрын
Basically just a retarder lever from an off highway truck that has all hydraulic brakes (PWM position sensor with a lever)
@robertbowman9108
@robertbowman9108 Ай бұрын
or what about a pedal on the ground to regulate it, like the break pedal. Why does every elc car not use the breaks to apply the regen, seams like an obvious application
@John13Edge
@John13Edge Ай бұрын
Rule of thumb for 600 vac is one amp equals 1hp….you also have to remember your motors are on your axles so your truck won’t twist …the motor should actually suck you suspension down making the truck feel more stable than with a standard truck where they tend to lift on acceleration .
@ruyguy8888
@ruyguy8888 Ай бұрын
Great Job, Boys. Bring heavy manufacturing back to Canada.
@chargerguy1973
@chargerguy1973 Ай бұрын
I'm proud of you guys, my northern brothers. I'm ecstatic this first working, real-world load test went swell and you've got plenty more operational data to play with. Keep doing awesome things, gentlemen.
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