We're ADDICTED to this confusing game! - 51 ClubHouse : PART 5

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[@jcace13]

I have no idea what's going on but the cards are pretty.

[@ergonomics_of_flatulence]

you're pretty

[@TheRealTerranMarine]

Nice try Keanu

[@alexandervillagomez1281]

Me too

[@orsonzedd]

Pretty cards? That's bad

[@jhalkoski]

mood

[@Artenuga]

16:02 that kind of hand is almost impossible to get in Hanafuda, we're talking one out of a billion, so once again Arin inadvertently does something incredibly out of the ordinary on game grumps

[@LuckySketches]

He's the card game boy. He's the one who wins 54 points in one game.

[@Souptist]

Oh my god are you serious? God damnit Arin you are the luckiest bastard I know!

[@trinalps]

love how he just casually wins the fucking hanafuda lottery without even realising what he did

[@scottydu81]

Strictly speaking, the odds of getting that hand are equal to the probability of literally any other card combo

[@2Dtube1]

@@scottydu81 only in a permutation sense, but card hands are combinations, so i don't think that's correct. i'm more likely to get certain hands than others in poker. moreover, if every combo really were equally probable, then there wouldn't be a hierarchy of hands!

[@nymphomata69]

playing hanafude in the nintendo switch must be the most satisfying "coming full circle" thing for nintendo's ancestors

[@TheElectricRaichu]

Nintendo also used to run Love Hotels eons ago.

[@thatsnothing]

@@TheElectricRaichu oh no.

[@wherethewatermeetstheshade]

@@TheElectricRaichu they knew what's up

[@kanebravo953]

@@thatsnothing Yeah, they ran Love Hotels and Pink Salons, which means they probably also worked with Yakuza. The more you know.

[@emilbennedsen3589]

TheElectricRaichu so to come full circle they have to make a porn game ?

[@TJRacero]

9:03 Dan: "I guarantee anyone who's a hardcore hanafuda player and watching us play this right now is like 'Ugh.'" Arin: "'I can't even- why did I even click on this? I knew it was gonna make me mad.'" 16:04 also Arin: *scores 48 points in a single hanafuda round* Hardcore hanafuda players: *confused screaming from the absolute luck of the draw*

[@bpark79]

the heart of the cards was with Arin

[@solanceDarkMOW]

48 even with oyaken is bloody great. I've had entire 12 round games that don't get that high overall

[@drakemallard1486]

@@bpark79 He went 1st every single time, which is a huge advantage.

[@joshmccorkle3042]

19:42 the characters on the purple flower card 「任天堂」are "Nintendo."

[@jesusgodson3009]

そですねー

[@thatdued4853]

いい仕事仲間!

[@solanceDarkMOW]

本当に？

[@lunnihyre4215]

私はアメリカ人なのでグーグル翻訳を使っています笑

[@joshmccorkle3042]

@@lunnihyre4215 こういう場合それでもいいだろねｗｗ

[@compadrecacodemon7455]

Fun fact about Nintendo, during their Hanafuda stage they where technically funded by the yakuza (Japanese version of the mafia) because they where the only ones who bought cards for their gambling houses

[@Pyrodragon3993]

See? The mafia isn't bad after all. They just want to play card games. On motorcycles.

[@nairocamilo]

@@Pyrodragon3993 Don't forget about smashing fools' faces on the sidewalk with a bicycle while shirtless

[@Pyrodragon3993]

@@nairocamilo See? They're not so bad once you get to know em!

[@compadrecacodemon7455]

Pyrodragon3993 the yakuza are a lot better then actual mafia, but that is mostly because they where created by the governments terrible policies and treatment of people with lower social standing. They are still a criminal organization, and they shouldn’t be loved in any way

[@asherdevin]

@@Pyrodragon3993 They also support the local community after natural disasters if I remember right.

[@Achilles.3D]

First game: Oh I see, 1 or 2 points at a time seems like it'll be the standard, this'll be good fun. Second game: *54-5* Ummmmmmm

[@Fedico7000]

He literally got one of the rarest/highest possible hands in the game on his second game.

[@haeilsey]

Fedico7000 lad basically pulled the royal flush on his second game holy shit

[@Cute___E]

@@haeilsey Nah. This is way rarer than a Royal Flush

[@-YELDAH]

​@Michemi On DSI missing noyal flush

[@cptcost]

it really do be like that

[@ZyphrDoesntGame]

when they started saying "these cards suck" i immediately thought of that character from House Party that always says "The signal here SUCKS!"

[@piplup10203854]

Lol! Yes you can hear Katherine saying, 'This game sucks!" xD

[@QuackersCo]

I'm trying to figure out what they referenced.

[@nicrowe1332]

*Katherine voice* This hanafuda SUCKS

[@ShufflofigusCam]

Always a pleasure Katherine

[@lisaabery1382]

"This carpet sucks!"

[@louie.kazooie]

Hanafuda expert: ugh why did I click on this? I knew it would make me mad. me: hehe pretty cards go slap

[@blackjacktrial]

Yakuza completionist: why are they calling koi koi hanafuda? Hanafuda is the card deck not the game. (Fun fact - the word yakuza comes from another hanafuda card game called oicho kabu)

[@Sip_Dhit]

Also Hanafuda koi koi expert: well at least the pretty cards go slap also Arin with that God teir combo

[@awebtoonreader4979]

Lol same

[@annabeltesky6818]

I love the fact I started reading your quote as they said it. It's like really good text to speech. xD

[@abysslight2490]

I wouldn't call myself an expert, but I am a long-time koi-koi player, these guys aren't half bad for just learning the game. I think the only things they didn't pick up on were prioritizing the high value sets (like the ones that get you 5+ points) that aren't related to Light cards, and the fact that the points aren't evenly distributed within the months, and that's pretty easily used for high point combos.

[@CrazeeAdam]

Dan: "wanna, play one more time?" *video still has 25 minutes*

[@TheJunky228]

flashbacks to Carl saying, "Uno mas"

[@kellydolan9717]

I guess Arin said yes then.

[@werbizzy]

p

[@mokonamodaky242]

It is a weird moment when you are alone in a room screaming at the screen “get the butterfly, you have the deer you fool”

[@wherethewatermeetstheshade]

I feel you now that I know and play the game cause these two

[@Road_to_Dawn]

Oh good, so it wasn’t just me xD

[@nastybedazzler]

I honestly have no idea what the hell is going on in this game, but "Koi-Koi you PUSS" is awesome.

[@danduhlion]

That line broke me

[@shadowtheimpure]

Not only was it awesome, but it totally backfired on him too!

[@Kikifinnicky]

Nasty Bedazzler i truly need a tshirt or hat saying that

[@DrowsyDowell]

I learned this the other day. When there are three cards of a month in the board, and a player plays the 4th card, they get the whole month

[@JohnSmith-bn5mi]

Do they have to be the separate levels of the month or could it be just: JuneChaff JuneChaff JuneLight and if you play JunePoetry you still get all of them?

[@TheSkyfolk]

@@JohnSmith-bn5mi There's only 4 cards for each month, it doesn't matter which one you play.

[@LanternArson]

@@JohnSmith-bn5mi If you or you opponent either draws or plays the 4th month card (let's say the butterflies as an example), and the other 3 cards of its month are on the board, you take all 3 other cards regardless of which one you slap down because you or your opponent could not capture those board cards.

[@DrowsyDowell]

@@JohnSmith-bn5mi There are 4 cards for each month, so if the board has three of the 4 cards for a month, and a player plays the 4th card of that month, then that player gets the whole month. That's why Danny got 4 cards in one turn; because the card he played had the other members of its month on the board. Think of it like a standard playing card deck, instead of 4 suites with 13 cards in each, its 12 suites with 4 cards in each

[@exceldeadsheet2824]

I don’t understand how there are only four cards. It looks like they are only playing with two months at a time, but there are clearly more than 8 different kinds of cards going on

[@entr3_nou5]

“Real hanafuda cards are tiny” Me who thought they were like big tarot cards: *_[sad art noises]_*

[@donaghwilson7715]

I thought they would be like tarot cards as well

[@leonardschmid486]

I think you underestimate the resolution of the human eye bigger is not better

[@Sip_Dhit]

That means that they were likely always tiny and that means someone put alot of effort and detail in a small limited space showing the skill of the original artists

[@itsacakewalk]

the cards are hard, resin-y chips so the slapping impact is highly satisfying

[@uljk5699]

@@itsacakewalk I was surprised when they felt more like a pog than a game card.

[@joshl1534]

When Danny got the four cards at 7:00 it's because they were all the same month. A hand is called a Yaku, and this yaku is called Tsuki Fuda, which means "month cards". In this circumstance, three were already on the field and when Dan drew, he drew the last 4th card of the month. In some cases it's an instant win worth 4 points, but it looks like the switch version doesn't count that. I actually just recently bought Clubhouse Games and fell in love with Hanafuda so much I bought a real set of cards. And yes, they are as "slappy" sounding as you think.

[@UmbrotheUmbreon]

So I know this is really late, but that is an actual thing in the Switch version, you just have to have the cards in your opening hand to get the instant win. I stumbled across it randomly while playing against a CPU and was very confused. Otherwise, flipping/playing the fourth month card just takes all the other month cards to your side.

[@megamajig]

For anyone confused, there are 12 Suits of 4 cards each, typically you can tell what cards are part of the same suit by the flower or plant depicted on the card. . In order to "capture" a card from the center and add it to your score pile, you have to match a card of the same suit with a card in the center to add it to your "score pile" . Cards in your score pile determine if you make a winning hand or "yaku" the moment you have any winning hand you can either end the round and take the score you got or "koi-koi" which allows you to attempt to continue for more points BUT if your opponent completes a hand after you koi-koi they get double points for sweeping it out from under you (risk - reward) . The hardest part of the game is learning all the different Yaku you can make in the game. The rest is memorizing the deck and thinking to yourself "what can my opponent possibly make with whats on the board and what i KNOW they cant get with the cards I'm holding" and making your decisions and risk based on that. . As a note to the grumps, "I am by no means a hanafuda expert, but i love this game and have been playing it for years and you guys are picking up the strategy just fine :D"

[@wherethewatermeetstheshade]

Cool

[@Road_to_Dawn]

Guts Exactly. Basically, the next person to complete a hand.

[@OhSeeBarber]

This explanation is going in one side of my head and out the other.

[@ikkue]

@@OhSeeBarber It's literally like a matching game. You can think of it as standard western playing cards; if I slap the 8 of clubs on my hand onto the 2 of clubs on the board, I get both of the cards onto the right-hand side and they're both put into a category called "even numbers" and I have to get 5 "even numbers" card to win. Replace the suits with the 12 months of the year, and the numbers with 4 designs.

[@aster5191]

"Hanafuda enthusiasts, did it seem like I got it? 'Cuz it seemed like I got it." Well you thought the boar was a fish for half the match, but yeah you did alright.

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

To be fair, if a fish ever did grow four legs, it would indeed look like a boar.

[@chillpill1649]

Tell me why on some of the koikoi’s it doubled the points and others it didn’t!!!!! Please and thankyou.

[@brendanroman1680]

@@chillpill1649 when you Koi Koi the total has to be 7 or more for the points to double, however if the other player koi kois and you steal, it is automatically doubled no matter the point amount

[@TheLonelyGoomba]

I got into this recently too. I guess at first it's confusing and you just focus on matching cards. Then the initial overly complicated sets start to make sense and it gets more fun. Pretty good game. 48 points for a round is pretty insane btw. As for double points, you only get double via a koikoi if you beat the challenge or (if you made the koi koi) you have 7+ points.

[@NotThatNewman]

How did Dan get double points at 6:03? It was only 1 point?

[@No0wis]

@@NotThatNewman actually, the only person who gets double points from the koi-koi is the person who DIDNT koi-koi

[@BenAV92]

If the other player wins after you Koi-Koi then that's always double points, which is separate to the double points you get if you score 7 or higher. They stack together for 4x points if the other player scores 7+ after you Koi-Koi.

[@NotThatNewman]

@@BenAV92 Oh ok, thanks for explaining!

[@WhirlwindKei1]

I've found that the rules vary depending on which game I'm playing (not koi-koi/Hana-awase/Go-Stop, I mean which koi-koi title - been around a while, I have a few, plus I build Raspberry Pi boxes occasionally). Doubling isn't always a thing in my experience. There's one game on Android that throws in 'glitches', and I've wound up with a 60-point round on the back of that. Hanafuda: Koi-Koi of Infinity, it's called. On top of that, some games count up your total over a set number of rounds, while others have tug-of-war scoring, taking points from your opponent’s pool. That’s how Star Platinum plays. This is also the first time I've seen the Akatan (Red Written Prayer Slip), Aotan (Blue Prayer Slip) and Inoshikacho (Boar-Deer-Butterfly) tricks be inflatable, gaining another point for each extra card of their type. On the generic 'get five of anything' Tan and Tane tricks, sure, but not the ones that are 'get three specifics'.

[@Caxe15]

" The lights are the super detailed ones...or they have a sun on them" Set is called *Moon* Viewing

[@flimsy6752]

Dan: *mocks Arin when he doesn’t koi koi* Also Dan: *almost never koi koi’s*

[@jocab3674]

"Koi koi you puss-"

[@sweetpea2604]

@@jocab3674 *Pulls Katana out of fluffy hair*

[@histhorrorian]

i’m japanese and i grew up on this game. it’s definitely confusing to new people and i’m so glad to see you two play it :’)

[@slimchelmi6940]

this is literally the perfect podcast game: you don't need sound if you're interested in the game, you don't need visuals if you're interested in the talking

[@Dazia]

"Mmm I'm gonna pee on you" yes this is excellent no visuals needed, only my imagination.

[@clovertops]

@@Dazia A man of culture

[@Peppyssj]

Average Hanafuda Koi-Koi player here: - If there are 3 cards of the same month on the table, and you have the last one, you get all of them! (similiar to what happened to Dan) - Ideally you should try to discard cards that: you can match with another that you have on hand, but also watch out for what your opponent has or cards that were played already! (each month has 4 cards, so if 2 are already out, and the other 2 are on your hand, you can safely put that on the table, knowing that only you can match that! - If you see that your opponent is, for example, getting all blue poetry, try to block that by capturing one, so he can't get the whole set - Koi-Koi usually is best when you can complete a set on the next hand. (adding to a current set can also be done! eg: Chaff(10) and you add a new Chaff card, that's considered a win - Pay attention on what your opponent have, sometimes you can't complete a set no matter what! (eg: someone has 2 Light cards and Willow Light Card, and the other one has 2 Light Cards!) - To remember which one matches with which, just check if the "flowers" match on the cards (kinda "Ignore" the other elements) They are very distinctive! - Koi-Koi only double points for your opponent! For you it's just an opportunity to score more! - Anyone who makes 7 or more points gets double the points! (So if you make 8 points on a round, you get 16 points actually!) - Cherry Blossoming Viewing, Moon Viewing and Boar-Deer-Butterflys are "easy" combinations to do, worth a lot of points! So try blocking your opponent if they snatch one! Well, that's it from me!

[@michaelbillingham5580]

You are my saviour average hanafuda koi koi player

[@TaismoFanBoy]

Ohhh, so Arin got x2 points regardless of if he koi-koi'd that round, and they just THOUGHT he got x2 points from the koi-koi. I see. So if you're at 6 points, it might be worth risking koi-koi, since you are also likely benefiting from a x2 multiplier by doing so?

[@Peppyssj]

@@TaismoFanBoy Depends, it us worth risking if your opponent is far from doing any set! eg: If he just need 1 Chaff to get the se (or seed, etc) it my be worth it just to Finish it and get 6 points :D (or if you are so far ahead in points, maybe you can risk it more)

[@IncoherentRampage]

So was Arin ridiculously lucky to get 48 pts in a turn? Or is that reasonable for someone who actually knows what they're doing?

[@maya_menagerie]

Thank you for this explanation!!

[@gamrage]

I imagine Dan and Arin sitting across from each other in a traditional Japanese room playing Hanafuda. Arin ranting and throwing a fit and Dan reading a manual.

[@aovuenqpcjej3148]

"Have you been looking at the cheat sheet Arin?" "No", Arin says as he furiously flips through the cheat sheet the entire episode.

[@chefdano3474]

Hey, hey. To be fair, Dan said if he was playing with Assist, not the cheat sheet. the assist shows the subcategories with * ranks, which he only used like once or twice, and only for a quick peek.

[@Psyvel]

ChefDano3 later on, maybe around 12:30ish Dan mentions the cheat sheet as well

[@aovuenqpcjej3148]

Lets see it was at 12:18 exactly that Dan asked

[@exzyyd392]

@@aovuenqpcjej3148 Dan was talking about how Arin remembers the months. Arin was using the cheat sheet to check the combinations but could already tell the months apart on his own

[@Tomja87]

22:50 the reason Dan's score didn't double despite him calling koi-koi is because you have to score seven points or more to double. If Arin scored after Dan called koi-koi his points would double regardless.

[@dontblink2564]

Nintendo and The Ottoman Empire existed at the same time

[@Rileys887]

Holy shit!

[@Pyrodragon3993]

Are you saying... that Nintendo made the Ottoman Empire!? Woah!

[@rwaitwhat]

Thank you for sharing with the class

[@trapbuilder2283]

Nintendo, Coca-Cola and the story of Dracula exist in the same time period, so Dracula could have played nintendo cards while drinking a coke

[@oguzhanbey6847]

It is so interesting that a game company later designed an Italian plumber and a fuckin ENORMOUS EMPIRE existed at the same time in history at one point, empire collapsed, but Italian plumber is a huge thing right now.

[@buymeskittles2719]

Nintendo still makes Hanafuda cards with Nintendo characters on them.

[@asherdevin]

That sounds amazing

[@compadrecacodemon7455]

It is

[@Nogardo]

You can unlock it in this game

[@TheBaldr]

They were one of the first companies in Japan that made Western playing cards in 1902(Although because of a war at the time didn't really mass produce until 1907). This brought them great success in the 1950s with themed decks and still make them today. I got a Legend of Zelda deck.

[@KogaHarine]

I have the Club Nintendo set and I love it even if I don't know how to play.

[@SR-mz8nn]

I laugh every time Arin goes “GrUmPo Is iN cOnTrOl”

[@RadioactiveKat787]

My first general thought of the gameplay: oh, it's like a matching game. Those 2 are different but they have one matching element so you can take them. 10 seconds after that thought: MONTHS. CATEGORIES. SEEDS. DEER. BIRDS. POETRY. BLUE. KOI KOOOOOOIIIII! SLAAAAAAAP! ... My ancestors worked at Nintendo.

[@vocalvortexstudios2058]

Lmao fuckin "my ancestors worked at nintendo"

[@alejandrorivas4585]

@@vocalvortexstudios2058 when your a 12 yo boy in 50's japan "Yeah? Well... well... MY ANCESTORS WORKED AT NINTENDO AND THEY SAID...." lmao

[@vocalvortexstudios2058]

@@alejandrorivas4585 lmao

[@introvertgoblin]

@@alejandrorivas4585 “THEYLL TAKE YOUR HANAFUDA CARDS AWAY!”

[@TheSandmanization]

I feel as though this is what my grandmother felt like when I tried to explain Pokemon to her when I was 9.

[@KonolaChopin]

Well having the vocabulary of a 9 year old probably didn't make it any easier.

[@datgamer8912]

"I don't know what's going on but the cards are pretty"

[@FreakishSmilePA]

* Pókémóń

[@aaronsmith2827]

“I can’t think of a game that I’ve understood less but enjoyed more.” - me playing Metal Gear Solid 4

[@pixelvapour1960]

I found MGS4 a lot easier to understand than MGS2

[@wherethewatermeetstheshade]

Me on chess

[@elisabethnoir4780]

Me playing Death Stranding

[@BattleSpew]

What was so hard to understand about MGS4? It's all nanomachines, son!

[@nintendopet114]

@@pixelvapour1960 metal gear solid 2 is way easier to understand now because the whole point was that the one world government was basically using propaganda through early internet social media to keep the people already in power with fake terrorist attacks.

[@CherryBomb_Games]

This actually looks like something I'd really enjoy. One of those "easy to play, hard to master" type games. It seems simultaneously super simple and incredibly complex

[@bengerber4542]

I think this reminds me more of a "hard to play, hard to master" type games....

[@deepdishattack]

You can play this on steam under the name “koi-koi japan.” Its about $10, but It goes on sale a lot

[@Geiko32]

It's a easy "play the video game and couldn't do shit with a physical deck" type game.

[@Aka-Spade]

I love Koi-Koi! It gets extremely fun and fast paced when you get used to the rules. I have a Nintendo made deck that my brother and I play with all the time.

[@cshimp10]

Once you understand what the cards are, the game is the easiest thing. Although when you first start you may need the cheat sheet embedded into your brain hahaha

[@AlexiasShado]

10:15 Deer-Boar-Butterfly combo, you may be interested to know, is known as *Ino-Shika-Chou*. Nintendo didn't just get it's start making playing cards- they sold almost exclusively the yakuza! They produced the cards for the gambling rings. Boy did the have a time rebranding from being partners with the yakuza to selling kids toys! That hard satisfying /slap/ sound is due to the fact these cards are usually either made of hard plastic or thick cardboard. The deck is actually a reverse of our card deck: instead of four suits of thirteen ranks, picture it as thirteen ranks of four suits. The way to score is to match certain groups together, and yes, they all have names. Just like real cards, you don't just play this one game with them. Imagine a Japanese equivalent of the Hoyle's book of rules! Even solitaire games. I've been a huge fan of these cards for years, but information on how to play the game was always scarce. While the game existed online for single player, any instructions were provided they were in Japanese. The previous Clubhouse Games are an excellent collection and it was a shame they didn't get the notariety they deserved. When I saw that a sequel was coming the Switch I about lost my mind, and to see Hanafuda and Shoji included, I lost all my shits. I really hope they play more Hanafuda. If anyone (Arin) wants/needs to know more about Hanafuda rules let me know and I'll see if the site I used still exists.

[@haeilsey]

I'd love to learn a bit more!

[@TheElectricRaichu]

Nintendo also used to run Love Hotels eons ago.

[@gorillafighter4037]

Alexia's Shado so it’s like dominoes for Japanese.

[@alejandrorivas4585]

Id love to learn more friend! I just ordered a set because I thought they were pretty

[@walnzell9328]

"It's kind of addictive in a weird way." *Distant Yakuza laughter*

[@walnzell9328]

@@Medahlian I meant the actual Yakuza. They set up Hanafuda gambling dens all over Japan. They made bank.

[@hikaru-live]

@@walnzell9328 If I recall it right, high stakes yakuza hanafuda gambling always uses genuine, brand new pack of Nintendo cards for each game. It has to be brand new, and it has to be Nintendo.

[@Xalerdane]

@@hikaru-live now I’m imagining Nintendo as a yakuza-controlled zaibatsu.

[@hikaru-live]

@@Xalerdane That's a no as Nintendo until recently was a family owned business. However their playing cards are of the top quality hence being designated by Yakuza.

[@bluelfsuma]

I would buy a Hanafuda set just to display it. The cards are gorgeous.

[@gamingelementalist6725]

Nintendo sells a regular and Mario version for pretty cheep.

[@csharp48]

@@gamingelementalist6725 for pretty cheep cheep?

[@mangachick27]

@@csharp48 niiiiiice

[@wallywutsizface6346]

They are pretty so they could be sold as art. Gambling was banned in Japan at the time, but it could easily be worked around by making the cards pretty and selling them as art

[@JacobMinger]

I just bought a set of Mario cards and I love them. They’re much higher quality than my old set of standard cards.

[@funnifunk]

Why can Arin and Dan learn and understand an old Japanese card game from the 1900s with no instructions better than a Sonic or Zelda game.

[@theflare9557]

Because you just throw cards versus controlling a character with an objective.

[@theflare9557]

Also because Arin actually read the tutorial for once.

[@oO0jojo0Oo]

The FLaRe valid point

[@General_Nothing]

It’s a really easy game if you’re playing it on a computer, where the computer tells you what cards match, and what hands you’ve completed. They don’t actually have to know much of anything in order to play it.

[@shoken4421]

because this game seems like matching certain cards with seasons . its like uno but harder. also arin has a thing for not listening to instructions.

[@nickbeutler]

Okay seriously I would watch a full series of them playing all these games.

[@saxyones923]

Good news

[@mauriciohernandez1944]

That's exactly what is happening now

[@mr_nap]

But with a rule that each round whoever gets a group first needs to koi koi

[@tatsusama3192]

. . . If you've watched all 5 of these boardgame episodes than you already have

[@femoman]

Okay, I got a deck of my own and did some research. Here's how the game works: - each card has a plant on it that represents a month of the year, 4 cards to each month. There's also the sake-cup card which is wild. What you're trying to do is match the cards in your hand to the cards in the middle by their months in order to form specific combos. - each player has 8 cards, there are 8 cards in the middle, and the rest are in a stack (called the mountain) on the side. - after determining who goes first, the player has to match their cards to the cards in the middle by their month. If they get a match, both cards are put to the side in a points pile. If there's no match they put a card down in the middle. They then do the same with whatever card is on top of the mountain. Then it's the opponents turn. - getting specific combos of cards in your points pile ends the round and scores the player points depending on the combo. Once a combo is made the player can choose to end it there and stick with the points they have, or they can call Koi Koi, which means to continue and try to earn more points (and as you see here, any points earned after Koi Koi is called get doubled) . However this is a risk, because if their opponent gets a combo before them after Koi Koi has been called, the opponent gets the double points.

[@demonhouser5656]

If koi koi doubles points, then why were there rounds where Arin did koi koi and scored normal points?

[@wyrmshard]

Points are doubled if you get 7+ points that round, or if your opponent called koi-koi earlier that round. This can stack to give 4x the points

[@jaywilliams7597]

is it wrong to see it as japan poker

[@alejandrorivas4585]

@@jaywilliams7597 Its not too dissimilar. But there are some important differences. Poker has multiple rounds of ante, whereas hanafuda has one per game when koikoi is called. In koi koi you also interact more with the cards in the middle, whereas in poker you rarely do so. But yes, they are similar. Hidden information, matching, shared card pool in the center, gambling, etc.

[@TheMushMe]

@@demonhouser5656 becauae Koi-koi is for you to earn more point, not really to double your winning. However if you Koi-koi and your opponent get to complete a set, they get to double. And if you do get more point up to at least seven, you double the score too.

[@ProfessorSpacecakes]

I never thought I'd be sitting here screaming "Shobu!" at my computer screen over and over, but here we are. Glad you koi koi'd tho, Arin. That was one extremely lucky - and epic - hand!

[@tylerrodriguez9935]

“Now the legendary Ino-Shika-Cho formation!” That deer looks like it’s the embodiment of “what a drag”

[@GaarasBloodRose]

I am. SO glad I'm not the only one who thought off this

[@oozeguysway494]

I see what you did there my guy

[@thomasmeable]

would you be so kind as to point me towards your reference my good sir

[@Dopeguy420]

Thomasmeable boar-deer-butterflies is the English version of Ino-shika-cho, which in naruto they made into a fighting formation.

[@ItsColde]

Flying pig

[@solusmortuus3497]

Anyone else remember years ago when this was recorded in Arin's house and they talked about hanafuda? Arin even had a deck nearby and talked about playing it with Dan.

[@stellaoh4745]

From a family who loves this game. But when each points worth actual money, it's a blood bath within the family members. I can still hear the screams and the slapping of the cards lol

[@flamingjockeys]

God that sounds horrifyingly fun. I can only imagine how much more brutal monopoly would have been in my family if there was money involved

[@PunkJax]

As a Hanafuda enthusiast, this was a delight to watch!!! And if you think this is confusing, they needed a multi-step tutorial in this ClubHouse for Riichi Mahjong (which I also love lol)

[@surayaa5680]

I wouldn't mind a series of them just becoming Hanafuda pros

[@terri2rial]

for all my naruto fans out there: boar-deer-butterfly in japanese is ino-shika-cho, team 10’s notorious combination

[@Morgil27]

I first heard the term in an early filler episode of Dragon Ball. Then when Naruto used it, I was like "Wait, did they just rip off Dragon Ball?" Now I know better.

[@cocaptainliz4520]

Neat fun fact!

[@deemantheboss67]

awesome

[@KimTaeHwan114]

In Korea, there are three birds from November,April and August. It called 'Godori' and use it instead of Inoshikacho. Then you get 5 pts.

[@wind-flower]

Apparently the Game Grumps version is "Fish-Deer-Butterfly" though

[@rosemfountain]

When things are safe again, this would be an awesome 10 MPH idea

[@Kaigai_Kaiju]

I always think of the movie Summer Wars when it comes to Hanafuda.

[@BigT.Larrity]

Same

[@pierpaolomercurio]

KOI!

[@Pyrodragon3993]

Glad I'm not the only one.

[@asherdevin]

Same

[@tryarie1970]

Man the animations on that movie is just stunning.

[@mikkosimonen]

"Are you about to do Cherry Blossom Viewing? I swear to god… Oh, oh my god, I can steal the Moon from you!" You know it's a good game when it produces dialogue like this.

[@Yuhara_rev]

For future me: 37:31 Dan: "...I'm gonna pee on you."

[@christopherknight9297]

Arin: 😂

[@bethylou8293]

One of the best rare insults I've ever heard

[@fenwebster7658]

Thank you so much for this time stamp xD

[@sweetpea2604]

@@christopherknight9297 Dan: “We’ll just see how happy you are when I pee”

[@GranoblasticMan]

It's such a primal insult that I can actually imagine that this is probably not the first time in history someone has made that threat over hanafuda. 😆

[@BrooksBedoreVO]

Arin's crazy high score would be like the "Evo Moment 37" of Ancient Japan.

[@usernotfound6475]

How much of it is actual luck/ skill? Or is it that they just don’t know the game well enough and threw themselves into a situation like that?

[@alejandrorivas4585]

@@usernotfound6475 that hand is similarly impossible to a royal flush in the opening reveal of poker. You know when the first three cards are laid down? (Forgot the term) only twice as rare.

[@eicha41624]

@@alejandrorivas4585 *river cards

[@alejandrorivas4585]

@@eicha41624 thank you

[@CherryBomb_Games]

Dan: You know you really are a gambler at heart. *flashback to when Arin spent 20,00 on roulette* EDIT: Thanks for all the likes!

[@Her_Imperious_Condescension]

bet it all on 23

[@oO0jojo0Oo]

“ⁱ ˢᵖᵉⁿᵗ ⁱᵗ ᵃˡˡ ᵒⁿ ᵍᵃᵐᵇˡⁱⁿᵍ”

[@sumbody694]

He did end up winning like 75k from that if i remember so it did eventually pay off hilariously and epicly.

[@Hades8103]

The number 23 is on repeat

[@Jenazad.]

The Bananas has gone bad...

[@jahenrie86]

Golf Instructor: Let me show you how it’s done. Arin: (laughs) Yeah I think I know how to play golf dude. Arin: (halfway through the game) how are you doing that?

[@AnimeFan_2013]

Dan sounds echoed the longer he talks 13:18 - Oh that's a great one 15:25 - Hahahah! Dan's being a bit savage today 36:44 - Wow.....what an iconic reference...... 37:31 - I remember that threat from the Waluigi game

[@camopooper]

I was trying to find the Shoes reference to show my brother and cousin. I’m glad your comment exists

[@AnimeFan_2013]

@@camopooper ha, you're welcome

[@GaarasBloodRose]

Dan's deadpan "HmmI'm gonna pee on you." just make me laugh so hard.

[@Hades8103]

"I'm gonna pee on you." -Dan Avidan, 2020

[@linknicetoseeyouyoumustdie4735]

I think r Kelly already trademarked that lol

[@scottydu81]

Drip drip drip

[@kero-chan6808]

oh man, if they're gonna play every game in here, and they thought this was confusing, then they are gonna HATE riichi mahjong.

[@TheDarkNerd]

Why does every Japanese game that includes Mahjong have to use Riichi Mahjong? Just once I'd like to learn a more beginner-friendly version of Mahjong.

[@LuckySketches]

I've played regular mahjong before. I don't remember how it's played at all, but with someone explaining it to me and a few others that knew how to play it wasn't that hard to pick up. I remeber that it involved numbers.

[@caf110]

They probably won’t play every game only the ones they are interested in and know how to play

[@soleilfe]

and Arin will somehow get a 13 Orphans hand

[@entr3_nou5]

@Soleil idk what that means but I shall proceed to laugh anyway

[@user-2012July-A]

Hanafuda is so much fun. It makes me happy that you guys are playing it. I could watch this for hours. Very relaxing.

[@ari_chaser]

Everyone else: confused You: wholesome

[@amir0779]

Dan: SEEEEEDSSSS

[@user-2012July-A]

@@amir0779 my favorite is the ino-shika-cho trio. But Dan gleefully saying seeeeeeds! Is the best. I hope the play more if this. And when they can see each other in person, that they play with real cards.

[@infinitepaperclip9746]

Coming back and watching this after finally playing it is like rewatching a foreign film after you took a class in the language.

[@theunfinishedkitkat]

"We're addicted to this confusing game!" me who just started playing ace attorney:

[@mothkeytv]

So confusing, but so good. One of my all time fav series💕

[@coastersinjun]

As a Korean, this game was a MUST during family gatherings :) mostly played by adults~ It’s crazy to see Arin and Dan play this ROFL

[@eliastsuioku7253]

Aren't the rules different? As in Go-stop/Hwatu?

[@ZergRushJohnny]

For everyone's future reference, Hanafuda, like western cards and kabufuda, is just the deck of cards, not the game. The games include koi-koi, hachi-hachi (88), or even matching.

[@asherdevin]

Like playing cards in the west. They have a lot of games made for the cards.

[@joshkaid]

It's like how Solitare isn't the name of the game, just the type of game. The game we know as Solitare is actually called Klondike.

[@stinky6521]

Oooooh thanks for the clear up that’s really interesting.

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

My favourite game to play with a hanafuda deck is Oichi-kabu, which is kinda like Baccarat.

[@Devieus]

It doesn't help the game itself calls it "Hanafuda", even though the prequel did actually call it "Koi-koi".

[@Yoru-desu13]

7:00 The card Dan put down is the last card in that family So there's 3 of that family on the table so whoever puts down the 4th one gets them all because there's no way to get the last 2

[@haeilsey]

Thank you for the explanation that makes so much sense

[@wherethewatermeetstheshade]

Thank you

[@Road_to_Dawn]

I had completely forgotten about that! I was so confused lol

[@masamune2984]

“I should only koi-koi if I feel like I got something good.” Lessons for life. I think.

[@moon_wizard1250]

Doubly true when you realize that "koi" is one word for love in Japanese. Though, I think "ai" is more common.

[@ReneePrower]

"Yeah -- I think I know how to play golf, dude." Narrator: _"He did not know how to play golf."_

[@andriypredmyrskyy7791]

I've played this game before. It's koi koi, one of the many games you can play with hanafuda cards. It's basically poker, but you get to pick cards from the pile in the middle. Each combination has different values, first one to take points each round gets to keep them, otherwise you keep playing until someone takes points or the cards run out. A full game is twelve rounds, one for each month or suit. Notice if you can't see the patterns in which cards constitute a combination. The main ones are for each season, for having banners, for having sets of "leftover cards", then there are more niche combinations like "all the banners with writing" or "sakura viewing party" or "4 seasons". It's a really pretty, complex, interesting and dynamic game.

[@Ricedragon2113]

Wanted to play this game cause of "Summer Wars" by Mamoru Hosoda. That was an incredibly satisfying battle and made me wanna learn about this game all the more.

[@SyncSeiryuu]

Such a great movie, it was really well made, and full of passion. It shares a lot of it's plot with the first Digimon movie. It's basically the same movie, but with a Koi-Koi match instead of a final fight.

[@mongmanmarkyt2897]

HOLY FUCK THANK YOU; i was like there's a movie i was thinking of where there was a major plot point game where the main character had to big brain the shit out of the AI to save everyone

[@altyre]

Every time she shouts Koi Koi is so powerful. Lol

[@Road_to_Dawn]

Now I need to go watch Summer Wars.

[@mister90210]

Just getting to see this vid and just learning of it's existence I was honestly checking the comments to see if anyone said anything about Summer Wars already, which now knowing this game is on clubhouse I'm def considering getting it soon (Ironically watched Summer Wars a couple weeks ago introducing my kids to it)

[@koimikami6400]

I’m Japanese and my family plays this all the time. I was screaming at my screen on the terrible moves and what they called the cards. But still entertaining to watch

[@alejandrorivas4585]

Lol, I also don't know anything about this game but I just bought a set. What dod you see in this?

[@solanceDarkMOW]

@@alejandrorivas4585 'what do you see in this?' as in 'what joy do you find in this game?' or 'what interesting thing did you see in video?'?

[@alejandrorivas4585]

@@solanceDarkMOW I meant what moves were so frustrating. Like when you have a developed game sense for a game you can kind of 'see' the good plays and bad plays. So like what was so bad lol

[@Roxfox]

Apparently, much like with "Renegade", the actual name of this game is Koi-Koi. Played with a Hanafuda deck.

[@ButlerWho]

Drinking game: do a shot every time Dan tells Arin he's in control.

[@psychedelicmagikarp]

The occasional echo I hear on Dan's audio is so cool to me, like it kinda gives a certain vibe, a bit of a grandiosity to the things he says

[@tatsusama3192]

I read this comment as soon as Dan said, "I'd be dead within the hour!"😂 It had a cool reverberation out of nowhere

[@joeyb7408]

How high are you? Lmao

[@HighSlayerRalton]

@@tatsusama3192 Time stamp?

[@jonasinsinga4309]

I'm just picturing Dan as a giant now. XD

[@kramman1000]

Dan: You wanna play one more time? I check the time to see they aren't even half way through the episode ... awesome

[@lrunnels6046]

if you're going to play more ClubHouse games in the near future, I highly suggest trying mancala! its really simple but pretty fun when you get the hang of it!

[@arospacecase]

i love mancala! it would he really fun to see them play it, especially with all the fights it caused between my younger sister and i haha

[@TheTrekkie12]

i used to love playing mancala!!

[@lrunnels6046]

@mx. bird screech yeah! i remember teaching my cousins how to play but totally regret it now cause they win so often 😅

[@blossom1334]

That used to be my thing in elementary school

[@heath6802]

Couldn’t you play it on club penguin?

[@godoy_]

The best line: "koi-koi you puss" Gonna use that in my daily routine

[@wiltedcordypetals]

29:59 *_lOOK AT MY RESUME! 30 YEARS EXPERIENCE IN JACKIN OOOFFFFFFFFF_*

[@TruCloudGaming]

You got the quote wrong D:

[@artisannoteworthy]

I beleive you mean Eyeresume

[@ouibread1401]

@@artisannoteworthy *ewe resume

[@snerdterguson]

Danny: *lays down a royal flush Arin: BUT WHY DIDN'T YOU FOOOOOOLD?!?!?

[@haeilsey]

So true

[@SpazTac13]

Remember that episode of How I Met Your Mother where Barney is gambling on that game and no one knows what's going on and there's random shouting and points being awarded? Yea, this is like that time...

[@Spike-kg5rd]

cough at the beginning sounded a little nasty. hope arin hasn't been singing his heart out at any backstreet boys concerts

[@benjio8294]

Maybe it’s why they stopped grumps in the same place for a while ):

[@kabelor56]

@@benjio8294 It's actually because they broke their quarantine and decided to isolate for a couple weeks to be sure they don't have any tickets on their person.

[@amishandy]

@@kabelor56 you never know when you get tickets to the Backstreet Boys Reunion Tour, always gotta be safe

[@robinturner1563]

Hopefully it's just the normal nasty cough that he's always had.

[@Marianoejar]

Stop the paranoia

[@Sirrheyven]

seeing them struggle and confused is definitely how it feels when first starting out LOL once you play more and a grasp of everything though hanafuda is really fun!

[@fifi6958]

how did you learn?

[@Road_to_Dawn]

Fifi • I personally learned through playing Yakuza. I stumbled across it (in Kiwami 2, I think?) and had no idea what it was, but I got hooked when I saw how gorgeous the cards were. Edit: Also, your avatar - is that Ibuki Mioda?

[@mechashadow]

I’m Glad they have opened their eyes to the glory of Koi-Koi.

[@ShyGuyXXL]

The fact that the game's audio is so low that you can barely even hear the satisfying slaps is a crime.

[@mimilovesyou2049]

18:47 almost 20 minutes into the game “I still don’t know really what I’m doing”

[@SharkyDaddy]

Did you fucking time travel? The vid was uploaded 13 mins ago how did you find that out?? I’m so confused

[@tylersmith-xi4ct]

They played for awhile beforehand too if you listen to what they said lmao

[@Chas-OTE]

My first exposure to hanafuda was in Summer Wars 😆

[@borjaslamic]

Thank you, I knew I recognized it from somewhere, just couldn't place exactly where

[@turkeykila]

Same here lol

[@SBFSachiel]

Koi Koi!

[@mrhades113]

I love that movie.

[@whitefang5973]

Me too!

[@MontyEggman]

"I'm gonna pee on you." - Dan Avidan, 2020 "We'll just see how happy you are when I pee." - also Dan Avidan, 2020

[@meganelizabeth3314]

Omg the second they said, "These cards suck!" it took me back, that's amazing ❤

[@ChoklitThundah]

The extent of my Hanafuda knowledge is Tanjiro's earrings

[@jordanparker8073]

Yo a fellow demon slayer fan yeah I forgot about hanafuda earrings

[@linknicetoseeyouyoumustdie4735]

I was looking for that card the whole time but I don’t think it exists

[@madisonbrown22]

Link nice to see you You must die I’m pretty sure his earring are based on the moon card. That’s what I figured anyways. Or maybe there are different designed cards? I’m not sure!

[@linknicetoseeyouyoumustdie4735]

I can’t wait for the movie and season 2 to come out. It’s gonna take longer thanks to the Backstreet Boys ridiculously long reunion tour

[@jordanparker8073]

die might be touring for another year they must be killing it with sales

[@jonathanmorris7445]

Did you guys know Nintendo use to own “love hotels”

[@CaptainStardust1988]

WAA-HOOO! 😎 👍

[@silvercomics3517]

Is that where “Nintendo polish” came from?

[@khemically6124]

@@CaptainStardust1988 no. Sorry. I'll just delete the comment. Sorry for having tur big dumb

[@madlink3495]

They also claimed copyright on mario off-brand so that no more can be made.

[@JetKusanagi]

I think that's everyone favourite Nintendo factoid lol

[@ThrashBandicoot666]

"DO YOU FOLKS LIKE CHAFF?!?!?! ME TOOoooooooooo"

[@SonicFan11403]

DO U LIKE CRAFF?? A-ME TOOOooooo

[@LycanLink]

Arin: "Uh, I think I know how to play golf, dude." - Says the guy who un-sarcastically uses the term "hole in one" when sinking a shot on the fifth stroke. x)

[@SirNichosis]

I've been playing Koi Koi for over 5 years, and that round at 16 minutes is one of the best hands I've ever seen. The exact placement of cards and draws has to be so exact to get anything over 40 points. Absolutely mind blowing. I get a hand like that maybe once every 6 months of playing weekly. So much fun watching you guys play this. It's the kind of game that just never gets old for some reason. Would love to see you guys play this more!!

[@kotabee3630]

I got sooo excited when I saw the cards!!! Me and my Korean uncle played it so often when we lived in South Korea

[@colorblindcamo7270]

Please play shogi, it is my favorite game ever and seeing how well you learned this you can totally do it!

[@sasir2013]

why do you want arin to die?

[@colorblindcamo7270]

@@sasir2013 I think the mechanic of using captured pieces will be a huge game changer here, and I think Arin will take to it faster than Dan. I don't know what assists the game provides for new players but my thought is that Dan will have trouble visualizing the danger in Arin's captured pieces due to them appearing visually similar (in Hanafuda Arin remarked on the visual patterns that cards shared and Dan remarked on difficulties distinguishing cards) What I imagine happening is Arin quickly embracing using captured pieces, putting a lot of pressure on Dan, and only if Dan can withstand that pressure, therefore gaining an advantage in captures, that he can turn the tables. TLDR I believe the differences from chess will benefit Arin (a more novice chess player) and create a challenge for Dan (a more experienced chess player).

[@tvftw1]

I distinctly remember playing this as a minigame included in something else on the DS, picking stuff at random, and thinking koi-koi sounded funny

[@futur_sunds]

I bought a set of Hanafuda cards and then realized I had no one to play it with. So my mom spent and entire day watching videos and learning how to play just so that I would have someone to play with. What a nice mom. 🙂

[@lespaulpanhead025]

35:03 Dan: “You are a gambler at heart” Arin (in my head): FORTRESS ON 23!!!

[@Nala0Night]

Dan: "Oh I should've taken the deer..." Arin: "That's okay you took the fish..." Me knowing the game: *Face palm* "Boar Arin, not a fish." Later in the video, "Deer boar butterfly. that is something you want." So you did know it was a boar....

[@chefdano3474]

I mean, it is called Koi-Koi after all. you'd expect at least one fish to be in it.

[@parsley2491]

My grandma taught me how to play this game! It’s kinda hard to learn, but it’s really fun once you figure it out!

[@rockymorris4948]

36:13 Dan: You know you wanna play one more, don't you. Me: *Checks remaining video length*

[@nymphomata69]

"koi koi you puss" is the kind of thing no one says and won't be heard again in the next century or so

[@Rynjinivar]

*Hyperventilates and flashes back to trying to win money off those damn homeless guys in Yakuza 0*