"We're prepared for UP TO 1 MILLION Players on Early Access" - Jonathan Rogers

[@zestylem0n]

mfw no timeline :/ 1:20 League reacts to player progress? 3:20 Stash tab questions 6:14 Target dummy? 9:30 Portaling/logging out in bossfight? 17:05 Battlepass / racing support? 20:25 Unique / reserved character names? 23:10 Character names reserved in POE1 reserved in POE2? 23:35 Rune crafting 28:52 Rune & soul core rarity? 29:50 Ailment stacking? 31:05 Mana / elemental / spell leech? 31:53 Crit capping required / viable? 33:55 Will non crit builds be good? 36:05 Game design of bad affixes 38:00 Enemy crits? 41:30 Boss crits thoughts 43:55 Visibility of incoming crit or other effects 44:44 Charges for monsters? 45:05 Support characters? 46:30 Respeccing ascendancies? 47:15 Mapping zone mods balance 49:05 /ladder chat command 49:55 other API info possibilities? 52:25 global logs for first player to enter [AREA]? 53:38 Free global respecs for big tree changes? 55:10 support gems on ascendancy skills? 57:05 Ascendancy reveal before launch? 58:30 Lowlife threshold? 58:55 force move / walk keybind? 1:00:45 Map towers / buffs 1:04:25 Why is it harder than POE1? 1:05:25 Tailwind + Rapid fire interaction? 1:06:15 What motivates Jonathan? 1:07:22 Hardcore migrates to softcore? 1:09:54 Confidence in Beta launch / Stability? 1:11:40 Concurrent player cap? (1Million???) 1:16:59 Exilecon plans 1:18:41 Bosses 6 portals or 1? 1:20:00 Endgame content tailoring? 1:21:30 Co-op join during pause? 1:24:50 Fishing & other minigames? 1:25:25 2FA? 1:27:30 One support gem cap applies to all weapons? 1:28:10 Lockstep or predictive mode? 1:30:42 Asset popping? 1:31:45 Pre-download before launch? 1:33:35 Player & Map rarity stacking? 1:33:52 Future league inspirations? 1:35:05 Features enabled with new engine code? 1:38:07 Guild tabs? 1:38:55 POE mobile? 1:39:55 Mute player sounds in town?

[@tintran1812]

@Zizaran fyi

[@Smilehp7]

thank you so much for this!

[@robe4314]

You the real MVP!

[@check9094]

ur real for this

[@DatHo-c5n]

Ping this guy plz

[@Timetravel1979]

Jonathan should NEVER apologize for going into his detailed tangents. He's such an authentic and passionate communicator. His willingness to pull back the curtain on design decisions and technical struggles is such a change of pace in gaming.

[@kylebb96]

If he only allowed for the interviews to be 30 minutes like some companies then I could see people complaining not allowing for enough questions. But he is very generous with the time so the detailed and flavorful responses are very much welcomed.

[@thizzguy1018]

Exactly, I've never known much about the dev team, but seeing these makes me want to buy the biggest supporter pack i can. You can tell he just wants to make an awesome game. I wish the path of exile team much success.

[@2fat4airborne44]

no corpo talk is such a releife. Just a gamer talking to other gamers keeping stuff on a professional level. It is nice for sure.

[@Majin_Quu]

I played PoE 1 off an on over the course of the past 4 years and never really could get into it, but with PoE 2 and and seeing just how GGG is handling the marketing and John Exile himself being so engaging and opening the curtain into the background of the game is just such a beautiful thing and I'm so hyped for the game I'm actually investing as much time as I can into PoE 1 and might actually swap between the 2 if PoE 2 is different enough

[@lukaspumo3498]

Everything I read in poe I read in his voice and it makes everything makes sense 😂 I can't explain it

[@supersonicgamerguru]

This man is an interview machine damn.

[@MultiDeathwatcher]

passionate dev wants to talk about his game completely opposite of sleepy joe.

[@TylerrTazer]

@@MultiDeathwatcher what a weird place to inject american politics LOOOOL

[@FantaraTV]

@@TylerrTazer pretty sure he's referring to joe shelley from diablo 4

[@Zizaran]

Crazy especially so close to launch!

[@almightyurf3236]

@@TylerrTazer why would he be talking about joe biden tho lmfaoooo

[@joelhodoborgas]

Bro, Jonathan does more hours of interview than there are hours in a day... i just cant catch up what a legend.

[@allex9348]

Not even talking about that legendary smirk

[@kylebb96]

@@allex9348 GGG: What's our marketing budget? Jonathan: I'm the marketing budget.

[@maolcogi]

He's done at least 5-6x more hours of interviews, than Diablo 4 has in endgame content.

[@joelhodoborgas]

@@maolcogi 🤣

[@truechecker680]

@@maolcogi they already added endgame content to D4? cool.

[@kevindukes5586]

Am I the only person who notices Jonathan being very comfortable answering pretty much all the questions like a king after conquering all the arpgs and now sitting on his throne.

[@danielbenyo8874]

meanwhile D4 campfire chat is "questions from the chat" yeah right

[@atle2008]

It also implies his faith in his product. And that he isn't phoning it in. He's hands on, and I respect that a lot in today's climate

[@Powernudel]

apart from the ascendancy respec one for some reason ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@optimalilusion6250]

​@Powernudel I don't agree with the assendency lock at all. Like why make it easy to respec the tree just to lock you into an assendency.

[@ShaddyzZz]

@@optimalilusion6250 ASSendancy you say? 😏

[@steel5897]

The way Jonathan handled that "why did you decide to make the game harder" question is top-notch, gives me so much faith in this man. He truly understands games at a very deep level, and if someone like that thinks he made "his perfect game", then I can't think of a better indicator of a truly amazing video game.

[@Robot-Overlord]

Well it's Chris' game. But I get what youre saying.

[@daaaavidz]

People are treating the game as if it was PoE 3.26, it's so dumb. We have ten years of PoE 2 ahead of us and if the game isn't well balanced a week into early access then it will eventually be over the next couple of months based on player feedback, so people need to stop sweating. I'm not totally immune to that mentality, but that's precisely why I'm playing SSF for the first time, because I don't want a meta influencing how I'm supposed to play the game. I'll be playing slowly, fully exploring zones, and only much later that I will start thinking about going back to a trade league and being efficient with my time.

[@gumpable]

Imagine, games designed by people that play games instead of decisions made by executives based off marketing spread sheets. Amazing.

[@steel5897]

@@Robot-Overlord Is it? Where is Chris even? Haven't seen him in a year!

[@PherPhur]

@@Robot-Overlord Not really, Chris handed POE2 to Jonathan, he is lead dev and he has essentially made a council with Mark, essentially being co-lead devs. But I'll bet you everything goes through him ultimately, if he says no it's a no.

[@Human000001]

"Damn I DC'd" **There's currently 785 547 people in the queue**

[@xlGoDzlxHadez]

I just laughed so hard at this😂

[@vincentFGC]

please dont let this happen to me I beg you ggg gods

[@Zenbubbles]

New World all over again.

[@highjim7778]

We all know this is coming lol.

[@danielkelsosmith]

Pretty unavoidable, will probably happen for the first few days. Not many games have servers capable enough of millions of players.

[@alicerain8686]

As a developer I LOVE the technical stuff that gets talked about. It's so refreshing to hear this kind of talk.

[@miklschmidt]

Same! I want a full poe2 technical interview.

[@danielsgamerprofile4067]

100% same boat love when studios are transparent for this reason, makes cogs start turning in my head

[@kevkas]

Same here, whenever he apologizes for going into technical stuff I'm like 'just keep going mate!' 🎉

[@echoesofmalachor3700]

i've watched most of these interviews and I think this was the best so far. I don't think I've seen anyone make Jonathan put his thinking cap on that much to answer questions. Along with the number of ideas Jonathan was exposed to and opened to discussing with his team made this a very interesting watch Great job Ziz

[@Zizaran]

What a nice comment

[@Ambander-p3x]

Ziz's own takes were AWFUL though. Just kept asking them to make the game easier and simpler and pretending as if these are popular wants, when they are just his own. SC players do not want the game to be easier, we are overjoyed with the changes that make it actually challenging now.

[@grippersrealm]

@@Ambander-p3xi agree. ziz came off as very resistant to change, and a lot of these questions were 10000 hour andy minutia.

[@simpuff9017]

@@Ambander-p3xoh wow look at you also do the same thing you accuse him of doing. You’re simply not who he targeted with his kind of comment or « casual » player experience.

[@Ambander-p3x]

@@simpuff9017 Guess what, the casual newcomers are not who devs need to be making their game for. Its the core playerbase who are already fans. People like you and Ziz ruin games, this is why every sequel nowadays is garbage, because devs start making their games for some imaginary NEW AUDIENCES instead of for the countless people who already like their previous game. Good thing GGG does not listen to you people, they understand that core playerbase matters a thousand times more than newcomers.

[@FruitsBootG]

Johnathan being down to just have interviews with his community and being so open about everything is so blessed. I literally have never seen a developer be so transparent about everything yet also still have that feeling of reliability

[@crazeh8]

Johnathan is a treasure. The POE community is very, very lucky to have a dev team which is so open, honest and forthcoming. Sadly a very rare thing in gaming these days.

[@Xix2g]

Absolutely. IMO, we have so few ppl like Jonathan in gaming industry. Companies would rather hire a guy dedicated to interviews / presentations. Whereas GGG is like, nope : we will do the talking ourselves. We're geeky gamers talking to geeky gamers. And it's perfect

[@crazeh8]

@@Xix2g I can't think of many more games with a similar approach taken by devs. FFXIV and Warframe I reckon, that's probably about it. No coincidence that generally their communities are the happiest with their respective games, even if there will always be gripes and doomers in every community. It's truly the way things should be done, taking the corporate approach just leaves a bad taste in most peoples' mouths.

[@IyaJenkei]

Yea he always seems to me that he really really fucking loves his job. Like all he wants to do in life is be the goat game designer

[@xTazerTx]

Jonathan and neon are really cool ppl but at what cost we have lost the bald Jesus

[@Raxxanterax]

great interview buddy see you in game. we'll pause the shit out of those bosses

[@xSol_Raven]

hi

[@reneemaestas607]

Pausecore gamer detected.

[@HiyaCoffee]

You're like an emotional chick crying over something 99% normal people with lives and families couldn't care about. Nobody cares about the 1% of sweatlords. Go outside. 😂

[@bubz1013]

I want to believe them when they say they're ready for 1 million people

[@sujimayne]

They are. But not all at once. There will be a big long queue.

[@XelnasTV]

If you watch the full interview he explains the issue is almost never raw player capacity it's server instance managers. So how the back end handles moving from 1 zone to the next and how those individual instances especially the starting zones handle it.

[@MrRafagigapr]

they are ready , the servers hopefully are too

[@rammune7260]

1 server instance can hold more than one player - duos, trios etc. will only take up 1 server instance.

[@XelnasTV]

@rammune7260 he talked about the managers between the instances. So your group zoning into another zone theirs a server manager that places you in another one.. This is actually what caused launch issues for last epoch

[@ethanmonat]

12:30 the server detects client disconnects and PAUSES your session for you? This is huge and I don't think I've ever heard of another online game doing this sort of thing for you.

[@dddaaa6965]

Because there aren't many "single player" online games, plenty of multiplayer games have this feature

[@arturvegis2571]

i think a very big reason for this is that a lot of hardcore characters die to disconnects and people really dislike that since losing a 100 hour or 500 hour character to a disconnect hurts very bad so when a disconnect happens it pauses you cant lose to disconnects :)

[@allenhelmuth2214]

Pretty much every modern fighting game does this.

[@chaosmassive8627]

genshin is one of the 'online-single player' games, you can literally pause the game pressing esc in single player mode.

[@n1emad]

Torchlight infinite does this, a lot of the qol features they are bringing into the new game are coming from this.

[@lj1653]

200000 exiles are ready, with 1 million more well on the way

[@tonyadamson8144]

I hate how easily I recognize where this is from..... 22 YEARS AGO!!!

[@PherPhur]

I think 1 mil is a very modest estimate. Palworld hit 2... The good majority of ARPG players are excited for the game. The D2 andies, the D4 simps, the Last Epoch enjoyers, the Grim Dawn nerds.. it's going to be big. People who never even played an ARPG but like RPGs are excited, Asians are stoked, it's going to be. real. big.

[@sergeyt2947]

I'm one of those new players.

[@schmiggidy]

@@PherPhur Yeah, 1M seems waaaay too low for me. Not sure the devs understand yet how much universal hype there is out there about PoE2.

[@PherPhur]

@@schmiggidy I mean, he's got the numbers, but he's definitely being too modest. He says it's a paid EA.. like yea, so was Palworld and it wasn't a huge hit sequel from devs with one of the best reputations in the industry lol.

[@soulstealer5625]

I literally cant contain my impatience for friday, im so ready.

[@Erik-i2f4d]

You ain't alone

[@fata1jaay405]

I feel you bro 🙏

[@TheAccountant369]

I know

[@DanielGonzalez-xo4vs]

I keep going through a cycle of theory crafting to impatience to POE2 KZbin videos to theory crafting……. 😅

[@MDS-j9j]

Same

[@AgitoBlues]

"So this doesn't kill you in hardcore, right?" *Immediately followed by a long and profound silence* Man the comedic timing.😂

[@esvban]

the button is 'respawn at checkpoint'. has to kill you so you can respawn.

[@maolcogi]

@@esvban You can't know that yet, but a solid theory.

[@esvban]

@maolcogi comment was a joke

[@maolcogi]

@@esvban which part was supposed to be funny?

[@williamantonio9743]

@@esvban "respawn at softcore" xD

[@botousai]

Visual crit would be SUCH a great change. That might be a hard change on their side though, but it'd be amazing because then you could save escapes for if they're gonna crit(or not, its a tradeoff).

[@thegamemattster]

they already did with unblockables glowing red. adding another tell for crits is a little much imo

[@Oathiel]

How about audio cues, when big slam/spell crit is about to happen?

[@thegamemattster]

@@Oathiel id be down for audio cues though, not more visual bloat. Each boss would be unique enough to have sounds to recognize

[@botousai]

@@thegamemattster Red is unblockable, what about fast pulsating red with sound cue for crit? Then its not a different color but just pulsating+sound.

[@overbe]

So refreshing to see such an open-minded, passionate and down to earth dev..

[@another1118]

Jonathan have the charming smile

[@bubblehulk7647]

Jonathan is an absolute boss for doing this. I hope he appreciates the pain-in-the-ass questions are coming from a place of love for his game! Kudos to him for answering them and kudos to Ziz for asking them.

[@michaelrowave]

So I really am one in a million now!

[@JohnB-ws4ge]

you deserve at least one response for this excellent comment.

[@James-u1y]

beautiful

[@1_underthesun]

So you're saying there's a chance.....

[@DjViceroy]

Big up Mr. Rogers for all the interviews leading up to the beta of POE 2.

[@yournamethere123]

Mr. Rogers 💀

[@Karlo9000]

your a gay men?

[@TheShizzlemop]

@@Karlo9000 no one cares

[@christerjakobsen8107]

@@Karlo9000 HUH, the fuck does sexual orientation have to do with this?

[@zh3nox]

@@Karlo9000 wrong comment section

[@DukeofNormandy117]

Love how "casual" this interview feels. Much more like a conversation between friends. You can tell how much mutual respect there is between the two of them. Keep up the great work Ziz and team!

[@traitretrudeau2367]

@@DukeofNormandy117 friendly interviews dont have any value. Poe2 has a toxic positivity bubble around it. Anybody that isnt shilling for the game gets ostracized and burried...

[@zeke4994]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@traitretrudeau2367Toxic positivity bubble? 😂 It’s the internet so I don’t disagree with the last part of what you said but damn that phrasing is amusing. Answering questions from both experienced and new players must have some sort of value or there wouldn’t be any questions. Any game these days with this much hype has a high potential to disappoint, but it’s only a few days until we find out. and it’s basically beta testing. I personally look forward to trying it.

[@ElderGamerX]

​@traitretrudeau2367 Friendly interviews have no value? So after watching this video, you didn't learn anything interesting? I would agree if it was something like interviewing someone over an internet scam or something like that, or if the game was out and had known issues that were being ignored But there's no point in grilling him over hypothetical speculation before the game is even out...

[@traitretrudeau2367]

@@ElderGamerX poe2 is a scam, they lied to the player base funding the devellopement.

[@ElderGamerX]

@@traitretrudeau2367 So there is no game? Or the game they have isn't the one they revealed? Or is there some other misdirection that you feel a more aggressive interview would expose?

[@Papa_Giuseppe]

Runes sound like they should be like d2. You can't pull them out to re use them But you should be able to "wipe" an item to fill with better runes

[@michaelc9056]

Absolutely. If you can’t overwrite them, then this can (potentially) cause the same issue they were trying to alleviate with the socket issues which is something like: I get a new piece of gear and I can’t use it because I already committed to runes in another piece of gear that’s good and I can’t change those now. There’s still a cost involved with using a new one, but it doesn’t force you to make a decision of “this is permanent and unchangeable” on gear while it’s a work in progress

[@JGreed7]

True, this would mean you can socket subobtimal ones early and change them later if you still value the item, keeping the runes as a one time use item without the fear of having to choose between bricking the item or letting it sit in yor stash getting dust until you have optimal runes. They can add a specific currency for it or maybe pay gold/orbs to a vendor to remove/destroy the runes in the sockets, like the cube recipe in D2.

[@EnderElohim]

that also make runes a consumable currency and it is amaaaazing for economy because it mean baked in sink

[@michaelc9056]

@@EnderElohim Exactly! This is why I thought it would be a no-brainer for them to do it this way in the first place. I do understand the reasoning of "you chose this, so it should have consequences" - I just don't particularly see the downside of being able to overwrite them by spending more of the thing.

[@danielsgamerprofile4067]

Best middle ground for sure

[@carryofallcarrieslol5338]

DISCUSSION at 17:48. Instead how about a delayed release mission/challenge with unique encounters/mechanics and setting it up/marketing it as a worlds first race similar to Destiny 2 could be really helpful for POE2 on twitch and viewerships. And if they wanted to make it contribute to the revenue they could make a day 1 pass for the race cost x amount of points and after a few days it could be available for free. They could put cosmetic rewards behind your placement of the clear and then release some stuff as a pack later. To me its a win for everyone.

[@MarioSantucci-s4q]

I actually really dig this idea

[@Crayonuseatus]

Could be interesting. Maybe they could advertise it in the different season/release and make it like a monthly pass. Could add some value for content creators/ competitive players/ viewers.

[@nik_ms]

I love Jonathan interviews so much, the transparency and sincerity is a breath of fresh air, only seen it in Larian.

[@petocask7451]

🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00 *Jonathan Rogers discusses the difference between Path of Exile 1 and Path of Exile 2, highlighting the potential for leagues that have outcomes dependent on player performance.* 01:37 *Jonathan notes their interest in league designs that could involve collective player goals affecting future content, although they must be careful to avoid player frustration.* 03:11 *For unused Path of Exile 2 content, players won't receive replacement stash tabs immediately, as the company may incorporate that content later.* 04:24 *The concept of consolidating stash tabs remains complex due to database issues, especially concerning the switch to quad stash tabs in Path of Exile 2.* 06:28 *Target dummies for testing damage output are considered, with concerns about necessary stats and settings, though a simple dummy without complicated stats might be feasible.* 09:32 *Portaling out of boss fights is disallowed to prevent exploits, though players can log out or wait out a boss fight if it's too difficult.* 12:04 *Players can respawn at a checkpoint during a boss fight, allowing them to exit without dying, a more player-friendly approach than requiring 15-minute log-outs.* 14:47 *Disconnection safety features have improved, including pausing the game during internet lag, allowing for a safer play experience.* 17:03 *The idea of commercializing races in Path of Exile is considered, either through a special battle pass or pay-to-enter race events with cosmetic prizes.* 18:27 *Discussing the idea of using cosmetic rewards like skins as part of the reward system, similar to the battle pass structure.* 19:36 *Limited bandwidth for creating microtransactions is a challenge; more resources would be needed to enhance cosmetic offerings.* 20:16 *Character names will operate the same as in the previous version, with names expiring if not logged into for a year.* 21:57 *Introducing discriminators for character names could complicate user interactions, similar to how Discord used to function.* 23:21 *Characters and their names are separate between versions of the game, requiring players to re-secure desired names in the new version.* 24:01 *Current mechanics do not allow overriding runes; this could potentially change based on feedback and further evaluation.* 26:11 *Runes provide significant early-game benefits but are less impactful later as character mods and sources increase.* 27:51 *Allowing rune replacement is a possibility, though developers are cautious about possible repercussions.* 29:01 *Runes are relatively common, particularly in early gameplay, with soul cores being the rarer items that influence higher-level gameplay.* 31:04 *Mana leech exists only for attacks, and while Elemental leech is available, mana leech for spells is purposely avoided to maintain game balance.* 32:01 *Reaching 100% crit is possible but not optimal due to trade-offs in mechanics; this is done to maintain game balance and variety in builds.* 34:11 *Crit modifiers on weapons were moved back to suffixes for more enjoyable itemization, ensuring exciting suffix rolls across builds.* 36:08 *Even in endgame, undesirable suffixes will exist, but high-tier rolls are designed to be impactful and exciting, reducing totally dead modifiers in high-tier rare items.* 01:34:12 *Inspiration for game mechanics can come from various sources including other games, movies, or random elements, aiming to create cool features.* 01:34:55 *Major engine changes for Path of Exile 2 include a Global Illumination system allowing objects to be lit without placed lights, creating softer and more realistic lighting environments.* 01:36:19 *A new engine feature reads the material on the ground to enhance shaders, making effects like bear slam rubble match the surrounding terrain more closely.* 01:37:14 *The transition from a CPU to a GPU-based particle system allows for more intricate effects, such as particles responding to wind and explosions in Path of Exile 2.* 01:38:10 *Guild stash tabs will not transfer to Path of Exile 2 due to technical limitations in integrating guilds across both games, necessitating repurchase of stash tabs.* 01:38:54 *Development on Path of Exile mobile is currently on hold as resources have shifted to developing Path of Exile 2’s console interface.* Made with HARPA AI

[@sousaconstructionanddesign3768]

Jonathan’s passion is infectious. Gamers making games is the way to do it

[@sh9jscg]

Hopefully good gamers not the morons that think having diverse characters is KILLING THE INDUSTRY OMG

[@bobhadababy4079]

At the 27:00 ish mark, concerning Runes. Why not suggest two currency items? One that breaks the item and returns the runes, and one that breaks the runes and returns the item? This would effectively solve the issue in both ways, right?

[@Maususak]

Good idea for future but i think they should drop from end game bosses not in campain or low level tablets

[@Drspangleipo]

I think the issue is wanting to trade items but they're bricked by runes, or wanting to upgrade one item slot (e.g. gloves) and then not being able to fix resists because you cant swap runes in your other pieces. It sounds like runes are pretty common, so it doesnt sound like we'll need to get the runes back

[@PherPhur]

@@Maususak I think they should drop everywhere but be quite a bit more rare than runes themselves.

[@PherPhur]

@@Drspangleipo yea you wouldn't want them getting added back into the pool like that, it would deflate any economy around them severely considering they aren't tiered or anything IIRC. You can have them get wiped of runes though, that's no issue. Only way you could make getting the runes back work is if you made runes a bit more rare and made the item that gives you the runes back out of an item very rare.

[@boothbytcd6011]

Fundamentally because they have said they want crafting to be a thing you do once on as piece of gear, so each roll is impactful, rather than scouring and re-rolling a thousand times. A set of currencies like you suggest are just a form of scouring orb for rune sockets. They just want you to make a decision and either take the gear or move on and sell/disenchant it.

[@MrDraehl]

Agreed 100% on having a force move keybind. I have intermittent neuropathy in my clicking arm. Just moving the mouse around doesn't agitate it, but spam clicking definitely can. Being able to bind move to spacebar would be a huge win.

[@SuperCatacata]

This one of the few things Blizzard got right in Diablo 3 over a decade ago. POE needs to catch up with the times on QoL stuff like this.

[@Raven3557]

Wouldn't WASD movement solve your problem ?

[@littlegrasshoppa]

I empathise with the issue there, and long-term I would be confident that this will become separately bindeable in the keybind menu (based on Jonathan being quite amenable to the idea in his response). Short-term, your best bet would be setting it to the the last skill slot on the the 2nd page of skills (by default bound to CTRL + key), and changing the keybind for that skill slot to spacebar. You do give up that skill slot, but it *seems* like that will be less problematic in PoE2 since it sounds like most builds won't have enough spirit for the plethora of auras we typically reserve in PoE1. Just speculation obviously, and not ideal that it takes a skill slot but in the short-term that's the only real option apart from WASD movement.

[@littlegrasshoppa]

@@Raven3557 in a technical sense, I suppose it would however if their preferred / most comfortable movement method is click to move, then in practical terms not really.

[@geburah8319]

@@SuperCatacata umm you can put forcemove on any key in POE 1. I have it on my left click.

[@lancepowell1965]

Bro he needs to at least double that this game is gonna blow up

[@Powernudel]

you are forgetting that he knows exactly how many keys they sent out

[@ElderGamerX]

​@@Powernudel There are a lot of people who don't like pre-ordering, and will likely wait till right before release, or until pre-downloading to get their key. I just got mine today, for instance. That said, over 1 mil for early access would be kind of insane for an ARPG.

[@Scyzzles]

I think if they did include a target dummy they would need to be able to present it in a way that doesn't make it feel like the tacked on arcadey mechanic that it is. Like the quad stash tab thing, I get where he's coming from with it. It kinda further diminishes your items into being simply values on a screen when you can shrink them down like that. Things that are just there "because it's a video game" clash with immersion.

[@WingsOfSephiroth]

they could just allow you to 'overwrite' runes that are already in gear if they dont want you to unsocket them. just drop new ones in ontop (maybe a confirmation window so you cant accidently do so?) and it replaces the rune in that slot, destroying it.

[@ThatZenDude]

jonathan traveling around the world to interview with every content creator who ever had an arpg installed on their pc.- > respect!

[@ChristopherCosta918]

I mean, he hasn't traveled anywhere but sure. Either they came to him in person, or its done online....

[@deklore]

@@ChristopherCosta918 Didnt he go to South Korea for their interview?

[@Ambander-p3x]

@@ChristopherCosta918 He was literally in Korea a day ago.

[@tunes77]

the way Jonathan talks about the game really makes you feel confident in how good it's going to be. really really hyped

[@alhall1723]

Passion for what you do definitely goes a long way 🍻

[@PherPhur]

Most upfront genuine dev I've ever seen. I've seen some close to this level, but I've never felt quite like this about a dev, he's really letting it all hang out there. He's clearly very passionate and beyond considerate of what the players want, while maintaining the role as the expert designer.

[@alhall1723]

@@PherPhur definitely a smart dude. Too many times in recent years has an incredible idea for a game dropped with little to no passion for the gameplay. Can really see how much time he put into every little nook and cranny of gameplay. 🤙🏼

[@Gid-J]

Mute player sounds in town would be amazing

[@payback4803]

I'm so glad you mentioned that you sent in the questions ahead of time. I figured that'd be the case in any interview they give and might possibly also have a say in the editorial in the end, but nobody mentioned that yet.

[@fredq6118]

In regards to that first question, I think Helldivers 2 could be another good example of community working together to achieve global goals. I feel like it is such an under-explored game design element that can work extremely well in getting newcomers involved in the community, building bonds etc

[@GoatKnife]

Ionian vs Nexus event in league of legends like a decade ago dictated which boots were gonna come into the game and Ionia won. Phyrexia vs Mirrodin, like 15 years ago in MTG dictated which set they were going to release next. That stuff is so cool

[@n1emad]

Having people join factions that are trying to outcompete each other. There are many options for what this would mean. The leaders could be pinnacle bosses that are tracked, and a mtx set could be the outcome for the winning faction that would be added to the game.

[@KingOfBlood217]

​​@@GoatKnife Is that latter point true? I thought the return to mirrodin had a guaranteed outcome of phyrexians winning (since the set was designed in advance to print) but that was hidden from players for hype reasons. Not trying to downplay it, it was very hype, and is way more doable with a video game than a printed card game, just thought the clarity was important.

[@15ShadowDude]

I love when Johnathan gets to talking at a mile a minute because it really speaks to how much he understands the project and how excited he personally is about it. Makes me all the more excited myself!

[@wilburtshnookums]

1:07:27 jonathan didnt have to cook ziz like that lmao

[@b152349]

What's this obsession with cooking? Fucking whippersnappers and their stupid hip lingo

[@zacharymichael9718]

Jonathan being such an excitable guy is such a pleasure. I'm not particularly hyped, but I am looking forward to the game and whenever I hear Jonathan, I know the game is genuinely loved by the developers.

[@Cruncherss]

Damn never seen a dev this passionate and willing to do all these interviews awesome to see someone actually care about us and our questions gg Johnathan

[@Erik-bb3ci]

Ashes of creation. Different genre but yea... it's rare

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

No Man's Sky 💀

[@Cruncherss]

@@TheModdedwarfare3 yeah you right need more games like these

[@zh3nox]

@@Erik-bb3ci don't even try comparing it.

[@Erik-bb3ci]

@zh3nox i wasnt comparing the game. His statement was about the passionate developer.

[@SkittleBombs]

@44:22 Crit changes - I think they can just make the monsters crits on a timer instead of randomly rolled. So instead of 20% chance to crit, its evey 5th attack is a critical attack. That means tension and expectation can be offered and its more skill expressive.

[@benperry593]

1:32:29 Please give like a 12 hour window for predownload. 🙏

[@DarkAngell2626]

agree

[@JadoCast]

You can already data mine on Xbox because it's already preloaded so it's too late to stop now. They might as well let people predownload.

[@msi1985]

@@benperry593 yeah I think they need to strike a nice balance between allowing a pre-download so people can actually play When the servers start. Otherwise it's going to be a real mess of logins and I think the strain on the servers is going to be even higher if people are downloading 100 gigabyte package... X however many people are going to attempt to log in that day! The amount of data is going to be staggering!

[@Magnus-q7g]

They really should do it, it's gonna ruin the launch for so many people not being able to play 6th, I know potential server issues yadda yadda, but honestly don't think server issues will last more than an hour, if there are any. Being able to pre download the game and be there for the hype instead of sitting in the darkness being depressed and staring into the abyss for like 8+ hours will not be a fun experience. I mean the only con is potential datamining, but there's so many pros.

[@yournamethere123]

@@Magnus-q7g if the servers are only on fire for an hour it will be a christmas miracle.

[@Ellweas]

I absolutely love that he's "Oh yeah haven't thought about this that much" or "Yeah, good point, why not ?", for example the discussion about bosses able to crit. It feels super nice to not always have a bullshit answer, as if they thought about literally everything. Their communication feels so authentic.

[@randomdude8877]

The target dummy would be so damn good for new players to Experiment on. When they see higher number they are doing it right. Tinkering with skill gems and stuff

[@idkIzaya]

yeah but i can definitely see his point aswell, the first thing thats gonna get pointed out is stuff like penetration or overwhelm not being accurately represented based on the dummy stats. and then the problem becomes whether or not you add a boss dummy f.e., well what about uber bosses etc. the problem is if you can create that feature without leaving it in a state that people arent satisfied with. because if most people feel its insufficient its just gonna become obsolete and having a badly implemented feature is often worse than not having it at all, especially since PoB already exists. its just a really tough decision as a game designer.

[@aryssobral]

Damn, target dummy inside hideout would be insane. Even if it was mtx

[@ianfitchett2768]

​@@idkIzayatest dummies have never not been a good addition to any ARPG I've played that has one, this take that it shouldn't be done because it's not perfect is dumb IMO. You know what else isn't perfect? The majority of your playerbase relying on a 3rd party software to give them the feedback the game itself should be giving them.

[@adalos1953]

I think two dummies is a good idea. As long as they're clear on the stats the dummy has, we can mostly work the rest out. I'm not against a long-term solution of highly customizable dummies, but right now we just need something.

[@MechaChocobo]

The notion that "at some point to have the actual boss itself, might as well just use that" is confusing to me. It's said in a way that to me sounds like he's saying just fight the real boss, which misses the whole point of having a dummy. Bosses tend to be locked behind a grind to get one shot at their fight, so people want the dummy so they can try and see if they even have a chance or if they're just wasting their time and resources. If he meant having a setting to do a mock fight against the boss, that would be pretty cool and actually helpful. I hope that's what he meant and maybe they'll introduce something like that. It's not like you're getting EXP or items. Maybe unlocking a boss dummy after your first attempt at them if they are worried about spoiling boss fights.

[@markosz22]

I love how freely and openly he talks about anything related to the game and provide so much behind the scenes details.

[@SangoProductions213]

Honestly, the thing I hate most about the goblin sound thing is that it sounds off before the town even visually renders. It's like the top priority thing to let me know that some ass has the goblin in town. It's really not that important. Also like 10% of the reason that I basically just mute PoE while playing.

[@Gisbert-12843]

80% for me.. I hate these 🎺🎺🎺🎺

[@Gilazel]

Problem with starting hardcore and once u die u just play softcore is that just your char gets transfered, all your stash will stay in hc unless u create a bunch of chars and kill them with full inventories. Just something to keep in mind :D

[@bengalbrown2834]

Yea pretty much. You’d still have the gear on you though. That’s more than anyone should expect

[@delayeedbms]

love how jonathan is curious and very open to feedback. also doing all these interviews really boosts my faith in this game

[@cr6458]

Okay... re Ziz's idea about a league which the player base progresses: You occasionally drop map modifying currency which allows you to convert a map into a mission for a faction. Every time such a map is completed by any player, it goes towards that faction's progress, which will add their influence increasingly to the atlas. Beating these influenced maps will decrease their influence in the opposite way how completing maps modified with the aforementioned currency increases their influence. Each faction has different items, quest types, monsters, bosses. As the league reaches its climax, one of the factions will come out as the most dominant, at which point (like 1-2 months into the league), they take over the atlas completely. All of their buffs are removed, most maps become strangled by their influence, becoming much harder (a la gauntlet). That faction's boss morphs into an uber version, which becomes the big resurgent event. We create event leagues for the first week where new players in a fresh economy race to kill this new uber boss before other players have a chance to fight it.

[@spencerklepper6647]

I love his response to whether an entire set of projectiles crit as a whole or each projectile has its own separate chance to crit. I know its something ggg is known for but its so cool to see a dev hear something that is frustrating to players, say they never even thought about it, and then say they will look in to changing it with the rest of his team. (38:00)

[@twistedumbrella7537]

I understand where Jonathan is coming from with the target dummy. Unfortunately, people like to complain as soon as they feel the slightest inconvenience, so introducing a mechanic into the game that isn't fully fleshed out would likely end up resulting in a lot of complaints from people who start using it, as once they get the target dummy, they will then expect more, and if they are listened to, things will inevitably become increasingly convoluted.

[@rkberg]

Jonathan being excited about his own game like that is just lovely - great guy

[@bachan74]

No preload/torrent would mean ~10 hours before I even get to see the login screen :(

[@scupht]

That might be a good thing for the servers though to be fair 😅

[@cd8788]

how many gbs is it?

[@IGniTo100]

Servers are gonna be fubar anyway, so you'll have plenty of time champ.

[@HalIOfFamer]

@@scuphtit does not matter. 6th through 8th will be unplayable at peak hours. Expect nothing, be surprised if it is better than 0.

[@Maususak]

But they said poe2 will be availible to download before release

[@MrPeled1]

So happy you brought up the merge from normal to quad tabs Zizz. My friends and I have wanted this for years!!

[@vincent78433]

inb4 over 2 million people try to login on the 6th

[@FinestGamingTTV]

Always amazing to hear from Jonathan and Ziz does an amazing job interviewing him!

[@PherPhur]

12 minutes in and I can already tell this is the most hard hitting interview I've seen yet. Great work Ziz, I bet Jonathan loved this one.

[@JFW243]

I really hope that we can switch ascendancy at the latest with the full release. As a casual player I wont start a new character for the other ascendancy class but would love to try and play with it still later in the game.

[@pedrohpm]

Do you mind sharing this wallpaper, Ziz?

[@KarizmaKai]

i would like this too

[@scottcampbell9456]

I'd pay 10 ingame points for that wallpaper.

[@Zizaran]

It's just something I made from the set in the press kit for PoE2 with ascendancies and a boss. Doesn't really work as a wallpaper when you remove the camera boxes. -skryah

[@jarrettemerick2570]

Ive taken off 2 weeks from work, by my calculations once im through the queue I should have a solid 3 hours of vacation left to play!

[@cr6458]

Completely agree with Jonathan on quad tabs. I've gone a decade without buying them because I can't see the items when they're shrunken down like that

[@samkaeppel1160]

You get used to it and having everything together on one huge page is great for full build item organization. Play your starter and have a couple end game builds in mind and when you find pieces that are good for them, place them in the quad in a line. I like that personally.

[@wurzelsepp1981]

yep, one tab and you can only put 6 or 8 slot items, otherwise really annoying

[@cr6458]

@@samkaeppel1160 I have a quad tab, have never gotten used to it lol. I dunno, my regular tabs are fine enough

[@adry0927]

i have quad tab but still prefer to put things on my normal tab dunno why i only use the quad tab for selling lol

[@sumtingyum]

The way he’s sitting is like a great cat sage, and it’s awesome

[@James-u1y]

Zeke’s question from dropped frames was actually kinda good, hahaha. Hope to see you on the DF show again Zizaran!

[@HatefulBread]

Mr Rogers is the definition of you should only be nervous if you are not prepared. He knows his game so well in and out that there is no question that can really phase him

[@owa1985]

Almost forgot to like video until Ziz brought up muting other people's goblins.

[@beasthaven1571]

I missed that!! 😅 was cleaning and trying to listen what was the answer

[@beasthaven1571]

Saw it just got to end ziz with the save!

[@owa1985]

I almost gotten myself muted out of G2, I raged so hard about them.

[@RandomPrecision01]

I have to say, I LOVED the segment on the servers, of all things. No other dev has really explained in that much detail exactly WHY there are server issues on big launches like this, and what all the subtleties and edge cases are. Fingers crossed for a smooth launch on Friday!

[@wardloop]

I’m a little worried about the 100 ms auto pausing. I hope that means that people who are use to a high ping can still play.

[@MrRafagigapr]

you can , it basically detects latency fluctucations , for example going from 20 to 120 or going from 90 to 190

[@Minecrafttekkit19]

even with 100ms ping ur client is still connected to the server from what Jonathan said it will only pause if ur client loses connection to the server for more than 100ms

[@prosamis]

Oh so it's just for spikes?

[@Sergey.Naumov]

8:20 - i wonder if you could attach dps meter to the bar with damage numbers. Add some kind of timer to it, and update it every second or something.

[@ragenuggies]

Target dummy would be absolutely huge. Especially with the way there are damage values in poe 2 just being able to gauge dps on a statonary target you dont have to worry about dodging would go a long way torwards making building easier for people who dont normally make their own. Myself as example would make more of an effort if i could see number go up in a controlled enviorment.

[@raymondamador1487]

The Target dummy, should have health equal to your current level

[@_Titanium_]

The reason I don't like it is removes any doubt or mystery. With PoB, it is still wildly innaccurate, so even if you or some streamer thinks they have the best build or best version of a build, it could actually not be. With a target dummy it will be much more clear cut and more meta-y.

[@th1zzend220]

@@_Titanium_ A target dummy would allow you to check if something is an upgrade to ur build and actually reliably improve ur build without having to guess or use 3rd party tools (which no one wants to do). There is not a single good reason not to have a target dummy to test ur dps imo

[@Daniel-sz3un]

@@_Titanium_ How is PoB "wildly inaccurate"? If you set parameters to unrealistic values, then of course the numbers will not be relevant in-game. PoB is all about how you use it, but it is certainly not inaccurate, outside of a few bugs that crop up from time to time (see tinctures last league)

[@ILjXYZ]

I'm an aspiring dba, and I really appreciate all of the technical talk around the 1:10:00 mark. Very interesting!

[@Xix2g]

have fun in the Database management's world. We need you guys :)

[@dunngyllite7883]

Jonathan speedrunning pre launch interviews like a boss :)

[@brycewilliams6215]

14:00 the discussion about logging is really interesting. Totally agree with Ziz about the issue of over leveling when you’re forced to commit to the boss. I think there needs to be some way of attempting a boss without character loss being the immediate punishment. I wonder if there is some other more satisfying mechanic other than logging out to accomplish this though.

[@mcgruber]

Yeah it's called playing softcore.

[@squeey]

I have some concerns about the auto-lag pause. That sounds like it could be incredibly frustrating during server congestion times. I guess as long as the value is set well it should be fine, but I hope there's a way to manually adjust it.

[@regal-27]

As someone studying software right now, Jonathan's discussion around 1:15:00 was so cool to hear

[@ramschasar7654]

Instead of "Respawn at checkpoint" it should be "Retreat/Flee to checkpoint" and when the player arrives let someone (i imagine izaro from poe1) mock the player. Tell them that they are not worthy. That would be cool xD

[@jonnysendit]

@Ziz you are a weapon of an interviewer. I've been avoiding any content relating to POE2 to conserve novelty etc but couldn't resist this one !

[@Underground_Lights]

I would love to see 2 target dummies, one with no resistances and one identical to shaper. Not being able to know my full damage output as a result of changing resistances has always annoyed me.

[@deneb112]

For those curious, the league Jonathan is referring to while answering the question @ 1:20 is Warbands, not Tempest. Warbands mobs used to move from zone to zone on the world map based on player activity in a zone or map. They released at the same time with 2.0.0 launch. Warbands was the softcore League and Tempest was the hardcore, so it makes sense that Jonathan would mix the two together.

[@mew3782]

Jonathan: "you guys probably didnt notice this, but..." POE Players: "We NoTiCe EvErYtHiNg!!"

[@electricant55]

Unless it's the story

[@psinjo]

the one thing i really want a dummy for in the hideout, isn't even damage numbers. it's to be able to go "oh, i'm applying this many poisons at once" or "oh, this is how many stacks of wither i'm getting" and stuff like that. Literally just to have a punching bag to mechanically test certain skill interactions

[@vexmyth0clast]

I used my paid vacation time off for next week. No work, no worries, no kids, no wife. Just me and my pc all week 😂 Haven’t done this since Elden Ring lmao

[@Arkon111]

Jonathan seems to be such a nice and honest guy. He seems so genuine and so open about his game.

[@mesmes5163]

Was a great idea to delay the game. It’s built the hype to the absolute maximum

[@zsookah3]

Jonathan is the man, really polite, and informative. He's really going in on these interviews.

[@Slarklesadface]

Is it just me or has Ziz really ramped up the ads? Im getting an ad break every 3 mins. Over an hour 40 thats going to make this vid unwatchable

[@andreaseriksson4632]

Buy youtube premium....

[@adry0927]

adblocker pog

[@weqesaewqe1552]

uBlock origin

[@daemoszythaer]

Interviews with Jonathan are obviously going to be a top viewer lure so it makes sense that he would try to exploit that. It was about every 15 minutes or so. Not bad when you can skip an ad after 6 seconds or whatever.

[@Scott74921]

44:30 you can tell Jonathan is going to implement that. It's such a cool detail if they manage to pull off the technical/design side of it

[@Alejandro-xk5ej]

Litteraly no reason to not let ppl preload 5-10 hours before launch, maybe other than making some ppl log in later so the servers can handle it better.

[@ricflair8907]

works for me and my suepr fast internet :D

[@unixtreme]

@@ricflair890710 gig internet I’m ready.

[@rijsmiddel8765]

So there literally is a reason then

[@Dranzerk8908]

No early download is a smart way to stagger the login of game for servers actually.

[@kylekelley2778]

So refreshing having this level of transparency

[@TheFortage]

Dude is reading his chat feed the whole interview. This is the most uncomfortable I've seen Jonathon in an interview. Very tough to watch

[@karp_4902]

About the go to last checkpoint thing, make it a button in a random spot everytime you press esc so it cant be macrod, essentially you would have to get to a safe place, then click. Emulates a safe disengagement in more of an rp way

[@Ambander-p3x]

Ziz is practically begging Jonathan to make the game easier and simpler, more Diablo-like. Why? He acts like it might be what SC players want, no it isn't. We hate how you get to just run in 6 times doing suicide runs against a boss, all these changes to make PoE2 more difficult are the best thing we SC players could have ever hoped for.

[@Zizaran]

Oh i dont want the game easier, I want it harder, just bringing up things others asked me to bring up. I'd love it if it was so hard HC wasnt viable

[@Ambander-p3x]

@@Zizaran Several times after you asked for some simplifying/casualizing changes you made it clear that you would prefer it that way. Like wanting all bosses to be static with no crits.

[@Zizaran]

@@Ambander-p3x Oh I understand where you are coming from, I want them to be generally harder but at a static difficulty, like what I dislike is the variance, not the difficulty, for example i'd rather something do 1000 1000 1000 1000 1000 1000 damage than something do 5 5 5 5 500 5 5 5 200 5 5 5 5 200 if that makes sense, i want them to be harder, but consistent, understand the confusion though!

[@Ambander-p3x]

@@Zizaran Uhuh, and all the other times you asked him to make the game simpler? This was not the only case where you said it would be your preference. Also why even give a voice to some imaginary new audience of casuals, like "but what about these people who dont play your game, they wont like this difficulty"? They dont matter, game devs make good sequels by making them for their core fanbase, not by ditching them for a new audience.

[@4o0l63]

do we get new character slots in POE2 or each account merged across POE1 and POE2 share the same number of character slots?

[@msi1985]

So I'm surprised you didn't bring up the fact that Diablo 4 has a Target dummy system that you can switch between multiple mobs, or a single boss. These are stationary targets that you can test your damage against and see how your build is actually going to function. This does not replicate any kind of boss fight or give you any kind of other advantage. This is one of the rare instances where Diablo IV and blizzard actually did something well. Jonathan is way over complicating what you are asking for he needs to calm his tits, and give us Target dummies

[@Some_Awe]

on the rune part, something they could do, is getting broken runes back, or different quality, say you find a pure om rune (i havent looked into what theyll call them) thats good for 3 uses, once initially, then when the gear gets replaced it falls out as a normal om rune, and that normal one falls out as shattered, something along those lines, lowering the friction of upgrades but also giving them some sense of permanence, shattered runes basically performing the exact use they have now, drop 2, put in chestplate, find upgrade, same runes go back in, odds are youre not finding ANOTHER chest upgrade. thematically could go steps further, runes used in combination with specific other runes could degrade into different unique runes/runewords or having to slot in negative affixes to get desired outcomes later simpler is probably better tho i dont mind the current system, just excited to play at all :)

[@emilm8603]

I don’t understand the desire for a target dummy. It wouldn’t mean that players get a chance to check their damage, it would mean third party sites running every calculation telling you the optimized way to play.

[@cr6458]

This is it. It's good to not have a solved game. It's good when players have to kinda vibe check their damage occasionally, rather than having a tool which says "this is the best possible set up." It's funny that ziz talks about how bad it feels to be "forced" to use something, and yet asks for something which would create that condition.

[@MoQuEs93]

It is mostly for new players, fast experiments or if you don't want to use third party programs, just swap gem / item and check on dummy, if you have more damage or no.

[@2blueghost]

Path of building already exists

[@emilm8603]

@@cr6458 Exactly. The ambiguity, the testing, the trial and error is such an integral part of the game at this point. I don't understand why people would want to trade that for a dummy that would incentivize you to do this pointless exercise instead of actually playing the game. Like, the argument doesn't make sense on any level, and the fact that Ziz sits there all matter-of-factually and says "there are no good reasons not to have a dummy" (slight paraphrasing) legit pisses me off.

[@Erik-i2f4d]

Becauss ig would cdeate congent for him to post about. Money dude, money​@@emilm8603

[@TheYashakami]

I like enemies being able to do critical hits, but i agree that having an obvious animation would make it more interesting. Like, "they triggered the internal crit check and now they can use this special attack sequence", that would be fire.