We really need to talk about this…

[@lucyleechxo]

All I know is that Jonathan Saccone Joly makes me feel very very uncomfortable

[@katerinakokki2013]

The same 🫠

[@PinkyLadybird]

This 🙌

[@jillmatthews5197]

Yes not a good vibe all a bit hyper

[@melissav5094]

Yep. Me too. Since always.

[@nataliebrown688]

Same 🫠

[@thedcp]

Excellent video

[@welcometozombieland1]

real

[@faeriesprout]

Your channel was the only family channel I continued watching after stepping away from creators who show their kids. Partly due to the respectful manner you show your kids in, partly because of your personality and what you’re contributing to this space. There’s few channels that provide both cinematic masterpieces and content that gives you something to keep thinking about. Add humor and you know why I’m still here 10 years after watching your first video. Thank you for everything you do.

[@kelleyhasapis1]

I agree completely. The videos just feel very real. They are done in such an artful way.

[@EmmieNewitt]

I completely agree. I don't engage with family influencers as it feels like children are being exploited and soon enough this will be another source of abuse.

[@faeriesprout]

@@EmmieNewitt do you follow the Franke case? The oldest daughter, Shari, just testified to law makers in Utah about her experience in family vlogging. Her speech was amazing.

[@EmmieNewitt]

@@faeriesprout I haven't seen that, I'll look into it. It honestly won't be long before it is seen as a form of abuse x

[@lucyocallaghan2301]

Exactly that, spot on

[@loislyons3724]

I had been subscribed since the early days, when Emilia was first born. But I have seen the changes in their family dynamic over the years. It no longer entertains, nor does it enrich my life. I just never bothered to unsubscribe, I just don't click on. But today, I see how this can be enabling them. It is our responsibility as consumers to support brands that align with our values. Not just with media, but also with food, clothing, healthcare, education. That is how we create the world we want. Thanks for this reminder, Stef.

[@Handleshmandle1]

Following on from what Stef, said, unsuscribe from them. The less subscribers the better.

[@justnikki23]

💯. I used to subscribe to them for years and then their content became click bait, the way he put his kids out there just for views.. he has changed tremendously. I had to unsubscribe because if I’m not consuming something, I no longer want see it on my feed . Having similar values is important. The world is so mean to people who are different. It's a shame that they don't see the harm. People we need to wake up and stop enabling behaviors.

[@TGPR233]

It was after they said they took off all past v8deos with the kids a few years ago for their safety, and then added them all back after "his kids wanted him to". I left after that

[@xaiiSsa]

@@justnikki23 Yeah, same. It was such a comfort KZbin channel for me for years, but as soon as that change happened I unsubscribed.

[@PLABFamily]

Same but I was quite young and at the time I don’t think I saw all the red flags.

[@alliwhite7203]

I unfollowed them YEARS ago. I got a bad vibe from them. I completely support you on this.

[@star_wars_miniatures]

Me too! I really miss the old sacconejolys 😢😢 when they had a small house, barely any money and were quite humble!

[@sparkly_sewist]

Very very very well said. I watched them back in the day and it was like something all of a sudden flipped. I stopped watching because it just left me feeling uneasy. It stopped feeling genuine and just started feeling attention grabbing.

[@zoek92]

Exactly!

[@Kim-km2kv]

Me too. I almost feel gross for even watching them. I stopped watching a while ago.

[@Ilovebiscuits1001]

Me too. They just make me feel so uncomfortable now whereas they used to be one of the creators I'd watch all the time years ago

[@emilycarr2983]

Same here. Watched them for years. But as their content shifted, I became increasingly uncomfortable with it.

[@SazMalcs]

Thank goodness someone is talking about this!!!!

[@CosyCottageCamper]

This past week Shari Franke (who was a victim of family vlogging in the US) just appeared in court to assist with creating laws that help and protect underage kids who appear in family channels. It definitely is a grey area and privacy needs to prioritised. Anyways, just thought I would share! Love your channel, been watching for years! All the best with your upcoming move.

[@embk123]

Interesting, hopefully the UK follows suit and updates to reflect influencers. The blatant abuse and exploitation for views / money is appalling.

[@CosyCottageCamper]

@embk123 Agreed. I'm from Australia so let's also hope we follow suit. During her speech, Shari also said she would get extra money for sharing embarrassing experiences as they knew it would pump up their views and watch time! How awful.

[@embk123]

@@CosyCottageCamper bless her heart. I’ve emailed NSPCC and Childline asking them what their stance is on the family and the exploitation.

[@GeorginasJourney]

Shari’s point was actually that there is no grey area, and it needs to stop

[@juliat1024]

Came bc of dad challenge podcast!

[@joannezaninovic5697]

Me too!

[@justme-qn1pj]

Me too!

[@lindathomas3142]

Me too

[@Nadia-xOx]

& me

[@gracecarolan7429]

As a life long fan of the Sacconejolys I have so much respect for you speaking up/out about this! I was a religious 6pm daily vlog watcher, a book sign meet up and show attending fan but their videos are breaking my heart in the way they have MASSIVELY changed!! Their kids will suffer in the future! Money DOES NOT bring happiness and this will show sooner rather than later 😔

[@BellaBella284]

Agree. I used to watch them too, even bought their kids book for my own children. Now I just think they’re horrendous humans, those poor kids and in particular Edie.

[@comaxwell11]

I’m glad you spoke about this as I haven’t saw other KZbinrs call them out. I do however think your recent video on your son’s diagnosis wasn’t really appropriate, I know the two situations aren’t the same but something to think about as that was his personal diagnosis and not yours.

[@embk123]

Yeah that felt a bit off. I know you identify with the diagnosis but this should have been motivation to seek your own. Then talk about your experiences based from that.

[@HB-ql4nl]

And when Roo had Alopecia, love the Michalaks and wouldn’t compare them to the SJs but I hate when any private details about children are shared

[@Warlywoo]

I also struggled with this, and I’m glad it has been brought up. Would be interested to know Hannah and Stef’s rationale for sharing those details.

[@comaxwell11]

@@Warlywoo I think their rationale was click bait and content, it’s a slippery slope between sharing your child’s birth online to sharing their struggle with identity I’m afraid.

[@charlotte512]

I unsubscribed from the Saccone Joly’s years ago. They made me feel uncomfortable but your video made me think about watching his video 😬 I will resist! I love yours and Hannah’s content, so much more relatable.

[@saragarcia2394]

Silent viewer here! I just had to leave a comment to interact with your video. I couldn't have said it better. I agree with every word you said. I used to follow them, I haven't done it for several years because I saw the path they were going on. Thank you for using your platform to encourage a bigger conversation and also for doing it in such a polite and meaningful way.❤

[@CharlotteTeakle]

I just looked at their channel for the first time in years and all their content is about marketing their children for views and hate watchers it’s actually so scary - I feel so sorry for their kids

[@kirstyrobinson3109]

This is exactly the same comment I was going to make too. The channel is just “my daughter” all over it, with photos that have been photoshopped as their thumbnails and I’m really shocked and saddened to see it. It looks awful and really staged. Exploitation 😩

[@thesesweetpages]

Very diplomatic. I think a lot of us started consuming both of your families’ content, but you took it in vastly different directions. Your family diaries, conversations and social commentary in interesting - I remember how you would stress about your artistic vlogs and trying to make each week’s different. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with you acknowledging that you tried to keep integrity in everything you shared, - in my opinion you managed it - and that they didn’t. They made a conscious choice. They chose money over integrity and decency, and I hope everyone blocks them because they’re a disgrace. Calling what they’re doing anything other than child abuse is either dishonest or ignorant.

[@esmeraldamatthews6856]

I usually don’t comment on KZbin videos but I really wanted to say that I appreciate you addressing this topic, specifically for addressing it as objectively as you can. It is refreshing to see creators critically thinking about these topics and calling out the predatory behaviours of other creators towards their kids. I think content like this is important and worth boosting to raise awareness about the wrongs that are being done to children online. So thank you!

[@ThatMarkGilroy]

Adding a comment here to fuel the algorithm and your narcissism! Joking aside, great analysis. More people should be aware of this side of social media.

[@feerieke7065]

Thank you Stef. Their short popped up in my feed and it made me so sad. In my country this would be a case for child services I think.. It’s like exploitation and a form of abuse but in stead of it being being behind closed doors its in a stadium with millions of people watching. How is this possible?

[@abieli6012]

I used to watch you guys a longggg time ago in peak KZbin times and I’m SO happy this video came up on my suggested page. I remember why I used to watch your videos and enjoy them. Because I never remember you or Hannah being over the top to get views and instead just remember you being very down to earth and people you’d like to be around. Super interesting video but also got me back into your channel and I look forward to following you guys on your journey again ☺️

[@Sarah-JaneRobinson-c5g]

I never comment on videos however I had to on this. I unfollowed that family YEARS ago as they made me feel so uncomfortable. Your channel is actually the only one I have followed and loved since baby Grayson. Keep up your original content! Love you guys xxx

[@jodiefullagar]

While I do follow their channels, I have become increasingly uncomfortable with how they do seem to exploit their children. I think you calling this behaviour out is warranted and I do agree.

[@with_mee]

Very well said! You put out truthful, tasteful, intentional content about your family and lives. Respect everything you said. Couldn’t agree more. Keep up the good work.

[@emmajane6096]

I totally agree! Putting their child, who is going through an emotional roller coaster in the public eye will not be good while they navigate puberty and adolescence. Creating negativity for the money won't make them happy. The choices they make now could have an impact in the future.

[@solveig8583]

Stef, I have had my issues with your opinions and the way you voiced them in the past. But this video … just thank you. Thank you for being so honest and the voice of reason in this absurd world. Thank you for thinking of your family first. I wish you only the very best! 💚

[@amyclement6027]

I wholeheartedly agree. Thank you for using your platform to bring light to this disgusting behaviour.

[@soniafariarodrigues9357]

It’s not the first time I say this: I’ve been here since Grayson was a tiny baby. I admire how you keep reinventing yourselves from time to time, and with this comes the authenticity, the transparency, the love and the effort you put on every content idea or project you guys have done until today.❣️ I also remember watching Emilia’s first steps… and today I feel sad for the path the adults in question have chosen.

[@Darcmaeclark09]

It’s a shame you feel the way you do about your Chanel and how you’ve done because it’s so clear to see you’re a great guy with a great family and your videos are so amazingly shot and created, sad you’re in an industry that money isn’t made from quality!

[@sunnysideup33]

This!

[@Kavita_826]

I totally agree ☺️

[@eiry25]

Used to watch your channel years ago, chuffed you’ve come back up on my recommended - good to see you’re all doing well!

[@CaffeineGalore]

Long time viewer from the past and dropping a comment to say thank you. A number of small creators have been talking about this for a little while and it's great to see those with a larger presence raising their head above the parapet to discuss an important issue.

[@SoniaVerardoBeautyBlog]

Building your fortune on hate is such a sad and scary thing to do, in my personal opinion. I started my KZbin channel back in June 2009., always remained very small youtuber but in those early days I often was in contact with Anna Saccone. As they grew bigger and bigger, we lost contact. I kept watching them for many years but also stopped many years ago, when I saw they were heading in such different direction from my moral values, and understanding of life. My logic told me to do exactly what you said: stop giving them attention without trying to express my utter disappointment and shock about the content they are now producing. I figured out it’s their marketing strategy but to me it’s sad and lame and upsetting and I don’t want to be a part of this contributing to their monetary wealth at the sake of their children’s lives and rights. I hope more people see that, and stops giving them attention because as you said, without the attention they are “irrelevant “ and they’ll be forced to stop producing this kind of content.

[@tantonia]

That’s the difference between people who “create content” just to maintain their lifestyle and those who feel the urge to raise awareness and live in alignment. I really appreciate your courage to speak the truth. Plus, I admire how you and Hannah stay authentic to yourselves in both your work and life, always thinking and producing out of the box, without selling your values for brands, trends, or money.

[@thebrittany_christine]

You guys are the only family I follow anymore. You're true, and honest, and kind. I would always rather support you by watching your content because I know your intentions are also true, honest, and kind. Also your humor is so great! I appreciate you and Hannah so much, and what you choose to share with us all. Keep going. Keep learning. Keep sharing. ❤

[@katieb2273]

Finally someone said it 👏🏻

[@carolinelvsewe]

Very well stated! This is way beyond child privacy. Childhood and adolescence is tough enough 😢

[@leahgrantham9681]

Thank you so much for saying this! I used to watch them regularly but then when they started exploiting their trans child for views and very obviously rage baiting I had to unsubscribe on YT and unfollow on instagram. They lost their authenticity and integrity. What you said was perfectly articulated.

[@hannahgracestudios]

I really appreciate your candid honesty. You’ve always kept it real Steph and sometimes that means having tough conversations. Thank you for being you ❤

[@abbier4]

This was so well articulated👏🏻

[@chriswadsworth8558]

Well done you, for saying it as it is! The difference between you and him is an enormous amount of integrity, not that he’d know it - his skin must be like a rhinoceros by now! I’m certain he still manages to sleep at night, knowing what he’s doing, when most of us, including you, wouldn’t. However, at some point he won’t be able to manage his children’s lives, when they are able to make decisions for themselves, and what will he do then? On the other hand, I just know you will have a happy family, with children who will always look up to you, and know you did your absolute utmost for them, with integrity, truth and lots and lots of love ❤️

[@frankiesnaith]

Bloody well said. Been thinking all of this for years, makes me sick 😢

[@aria.andromedan362]

Well said! Thanks for speaking up. I unfollowed them years ago when I first noticed this behavior of them making money off of their kids and just being weird in every way!

[@ChantelleGunby93]

This is spot on! I was another person who watched their family religiously growing up & I’ll be honest although I saw those red flags it wasn’t until I had my own child that I realised just how disturbing it really was! Your bubble never popped for us longtime watchers. You’ve inspired me creatively so much. All I’ll say is I’m still here, not there. ❤️

[@bolanleadisa]

I started off watching the SacconeJolys in 2011 and your channel shortly after when Hannah was doing pregnancy updates. I was a teenager then and I loved family vlog channels. However, I'm 30 now with a child and I don't understand family vlog channels where the children are the focal point of the channel. It's weird. The audience doesn't really need to know anything personal about the children. We can see daily life without knowing personal bits. They are minors and cannot give informed consent. It's sad to see the path they have taken. If people made videos about things I was doing wrong and called me out, at some point I'd have to reflect and change course. That's what I can't wrap my head around with them. So many people calling them out and they still haven't chnaged. Very bizzare.

[@PLABFamily]

This! I started watching when I was a teenager and now I’m a 29yo mother I see everything in a VERY different light

[@HannaKangMamaKang]

You’re right. Accurate. And I respect you for standing up for what is right. ❤ love you guys and for also fearlessly stating your opinions.

[@lauraemma4402]

It’s awful isn’t it. Putting their child in the spotlight in such a way which should be private! I’m surprised their isn’t rules about kids online yet.

[@LaurenClark-b5g]

Not only was this super respectful. But something they should actually watch themselves! I unsubscribed from them years ago, your channel is the only family vlogs I watch. You make beautiful content that is so respectful of your children! ❤

[@malgorzatarusel5565]

I got blocked Couse I pointed out that it's really dangerous to post kids in their uniforms. Then I blocked him on everything. A lot of stuff is going to come out when those kids grow up

[@kathryn9400266]

I'm glad you made this video. I was a follower of their channel for years but had to stop watching. I just couldn't stomach their content anymore. Some of their shorts in particular just make you want to vom. I know I never knew them in real life but after watching them for years I at least felt like I had a grasp on what kind of people they are yet I don't recognise them at all now. Years ago they would never have made the content they do currently so what changed? Did their channel start dying and the need for more money drove them here? I hope it was worth it but I don't believe it will be in the long run.

[@mrswym]

This is why is still watch you after all these years - you’re considered and thought out content x

[@Kim-km2kv]

Always loved your videos and never thought you exploited your kids. Thank you for speaking up. More people need to do this. There is a difference between showing your family and your lives and how many of these family vlogs seem to have nothing to say without using the children. You have to wonder where all these kids will be in a few years and their thoughts of being online really without giving consent to do it. I never got a bad vibe from your channel. I always loved the beautiful film work and just how you are navigating life. Very interesting. I live in the US and love seeing how other countries live. Can't wait to see all your new adventures.

[@annatleal]

I've been a subscriber of your channel for years now and I couldn't agree more. I used to like Anna's content about health and beauty and never really liked Johnathan but still watched their videos every now and then. I decided to unsubscribe completely cause it started to make me feel extremely uncomfortable how they exposed their kids, specially because I'm a teacher. When Eddie started her transition it was all they talked about for months, clearly exposing such a delicate topic online just to get likes. I wonder how those kids will feel watching these videos and reading the comments in the future. It's just sick.

[@Ll_jfdk]

As a woman and so be it a muslim woman, a big part of my identity. I’m so glad you made this video without fearing backlash. Hats off to you. Big message: stop exploiting children.

[@tamaracube07]

Thank you for making this video and doing what you can to continue the important conversation about online privacy for children. I used to be a follower of theirs years ago when (in my inexperienced eyes) it all seemed very harmless and fun. Unfollowed them for that very reason when I came across a documentary about them. In it he was confronted by the reporter about the dangers of showing his children online and even then he made it seem like the behaviors and intentions of other was nothing they could control. And that was that. Made me feel very uneasy especially for the children and their online safety. So thanks again!

[@Hollyglitter]

Very well said. Glad you shined a light on this. Well done Stef.

[@madeline2156]

I really enjoy your content how much thought you put in choosing your words wisely but really taking it from all perspectives !

[@abigailvaughan252]

Your videos have always felt like short films. You put time and consideration into everything and it shows. Thank you

[@melaniemurphyofficial]

I feel sad seeing these very personal videos OF the kids from him. He’s (him and Anna) ultimately the reason I started creating content 11 years ago. They meant/mean SO much to me. But I have done so much research about the impact of this internet shite on young brains. I guess I just get frustrated that I can’t ignore the discomfort I feel when these videos of the kids pop up…Anna still posts lots of content about her life and I love that, but I just miss THEM being the content. At one point they said they were going to refocus & take the kids mostly offline & they were going to discuss parenting etc instead of just showing the children and I reached out to him literally APPLAUDING. But when I saw the pivot, I had to pull back from consuming 90% of their content because on a deep level I don’t support it. It’s tricky to navigate. I have such an intense parasocial relationship with them (of course have met them but let’s be real it’s a parasocial relationship their old vlogs helped me through so much shit in my early 20s). I hit like on posts of Anna’s that are just about HER. Feels like my only option…likes = votes 🤪 I also now as a parent understand how complicated adding children is when your career is sharing your life. I don’t share names or faces but it’s made my job 10 times more fucken awkward so I get it but I think I’d prefer to work sweeping streets than share some of the intimate things they share. I used to record myself as a teen on my dad’s old camera and thought I was so cool…Jesus Christ if that was going online. I’d be insane now. More insane than I am. I think anyone who works as a content creator is a teeny weeny bit insane 💚

[@ajackson2876]

BIG respect for you to highlight this topic and call out this so-called “family” (far from being a real family in my humble opinion). Thank you for your honesty here and in all your previous vlogs. Being “awake” in the world we’re currently living in is vital to coming out somewhat unscathed. I feel so incredibly sad for these Soccone Joly children. They are being exploited by the very two people who were supposed to be their most trusting guiding lights. I can’t see this ending well for them at all 😢

[@jemjamz]

Thank you for sharing this and protecting children ❤

[@Umainacar]

Omg! their video popped up yesterday, I haven’t seen them in years. And I was terrified seeing these shorts. It’s not just Eddie(transitioning child), but other kids as well. Rage bate would be if Jonathan/adult was the centre of it but in this case it’s child ab*se and willingly creating content for pdf files. So so sad and sickening. I have respect for you Michalaks for being creative and careful with your content and not f up your kids for the money they’ll spend in therapy in the future.

[@HelenCase-tc3xb]

Very interesting that you’re covering this! I asked my husband the other day… ‘I wonder what Stefan would think about this family?’ 🙉

[@star_wars_miniatures]

100% I completely agree with you! 😅 I wonder if they’d do a video responding to your video! That would be interesting!

[@eviesharp17]

I used to watch the SJ’s years ago, when I was forming my identity and it absolutely angers me to see this! As a trans person, growing up was hard enough, even now I’m not out to my immediate family and I really feel for Edie in all of this. There’s a fine line between support and exploitation of vulnerability, that line was crossed a while ago. Thank you for talking about this!

[@nicolemoses100]

I haven’t see you guys in year and was thinking about yous the other day! I couldn’t have said this any better! I haven’t watched the jolys in year! And although I don’t agree on everything you says I believe you have good morals and you’re a good dad! Ps the hair transplant look awesome and well done on having such a lovely family!

[@EllieAlderson1996]

This is why I love your channel. You always share your opinions in a great way. I used to watch them back in the early days. I unfollowed them years ago as the content seemed fake. Well said Stef ❤

[@elleeeeeen]

Great video Stef, thanks for discussing your thoughts. I wholeheartedly agree!

[@abbiebaker8533]

I use to watch family vloggers when I was 16-20. Before having children I didn’t see any big issue with that content, I even watched that particular family. However once I became a parent, my opinions did change slightly. I still would consume some family content as a parent, but for me the appeal shifted to ‘what’s the mums experience like’ rather than ‘aww cute kid/s.’ Now though that my eldest is coming up for 4 and I have a 15 month old I can’t even imagine sharing so much of them, be it video of them directly or stories shared. I know as a teenager I would’ve HATED so much evidence of me as a child online, I didn’t even like that my mums Facebook had a couple of photos of when I was 8 that she’d posted. A huge reason for me not showing my kids online is that the important people in our lives already see them and are sent photos of them directly. Anybody else seeing pictures of them isn’t in our circle, they’re just people I went to school with, met on nights out as an 18/19 year old or old work colleagues. They don’t care about seeing my kids, and I don’t care about them seeing them either. That mixed with the statistics on child p**n online being just average photos of kids posted by family freaks me out so much, and realistically I can’t guarantee nobody on my socials isn’t a pedo. But my main biggest issue with that family posting their kids, is just how much we see of them and know about them. It’s a the fact they’re using their trans child for views even if they’re negative, and one day those children will grow up and see so much nasty comments about themselves and have to muddle through that. I think as parents we all want to protect our children the best we can, and I think there’s a better way and worse way to post kids online for content, but they’re doing it the absolutely worst way. I just hope when those children grow up they don’t suffer more than any teenager already does suffer bc of their parents choices to show the whole world their upbringing, including very personal stories. This was long

[@laurawoodroffe9374]

Smart, accusing something many people are also shocked by, yet doing it very respectfully. Thank you for this video.

[@Abundantonabudget]

I’ve never seen your channel but I used to follow theirs for years before things got… uncomfortable. I’m glad you make this video, it was well spoken and considered. And I agree. I can’t comprehend growing an audience deliberately around people hating you. What an awful way to live and more significantly what an AWFUL burden to put on children.

[@bunnyhunny2936]

Really enjoyed this video and as a new subscriber I really hope to see you cover these important topics.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@moniqvi7693]

I used to watch them, but now its weird to watch them. I always been watching you guys and I am still here, because I like your content!

[@Ambers_Team]

Hell yes mate ❤ 🙌🏻 finally someone is sticking up for E! It’s crazy they can use their child like that. This just made me a fan of yours. Thanks for saying something.

[@SpacemonkiesAreReal]

I clicked on this video thinking, eeek calling out another KZbinr - that's not the best thing to do, but I clicked anyway. I'm glad I did because I think you're totally right, absolutely is exploitation and I like how you've framed this and the reasoning you've given.. A younger me used to watch their views religiously, but I started to feel really uncomfortable and uneasy with the content that was being made and no longer follow this family on any platform. I didn't diss them, or become a hater. Just quietly left, because they don't deserve any more time or attention.

[@deborahnicholson6053]

Agree Stef, 100% !!! X

[@rachelam18]

Their channel probably would have died off and become irrelevant a long time ago, had they not exploited and cashed in on their children’s private lives. To me, these family vlog channels were about wholesome content of people just going about their daily lives, doing fun things with the kids etc. but using your child’s very personal and private experiences such as this is honestly disgusting. They don’t understand the consequences of sharing things like this, they can’t consent to this, the poor child probably doesn’t fully understand how they actually feel and won’t until they’re older. They haven’t protected her at all in this process and I think it will have a terrible effect when she’s old enough to understand.

[@fermabloombloom]

Thank you for speaking up! Especially since you have all been part of the same agency a while back and knew each other, it's important to have people on this platform speaking up about children being exploited online for rage bate and views and money. I cannot even fandom what is going on through Jonathan and Anna's head, how are they allowing themselves to post such videos involving their children. The worst part is that he has now started sexualising his oldest daughter online, sneaky zoom ins, filming her while wearing quite short clothing items, editing pony tails wigs on her (and on A as well) and the list could go on and on. I am a woman and I would never want my 12 year old to be posted like that on the internet, I know what is lurking behind the screens and in real life as well. THEY are not afraid for their children's safety at all. It's heartbreaking to see the amount of saves those videos have compared to the others, it makes me sick. That family makes me sick and more people should be talking about it!!

[@leonie3294]

I love that you actually had something constructive to say! Most of their haters are just transphobes and not criticizing them for the actual reasons. Thank you :)

[@Mameera18]

Thank you for speaking up!

[@jolinestevens1343]

So important to talk about, we run a small business and every week there are trends that will help you go viral (failing business, what's gone wrong, you crying works particularly well) and when you have limited budget it helps you get 'free' eyeballs BUT you have to make a call - do you want to be that type of person, that type of brand? No thanks.

[@jodiebrown9650]

I used to watch them back in the day, but it all became a little dark. I wouldn’t put my children online, but I watch you because what you do is art, like watching a beautiful movie.❤

[@Newsfromthe_front]

I've been hoping you'd talk about this for years. Worth the wait and what I hoped and expected you'd say.

[@emmaj1990]

100% agree with you. Not that ive watched many if their things but I've always thought there was something off about them. Unlike your channel which i have watched over the years and have always loved how real and honest you are.

[@bethmfuller]

So well explained Stef, found this so thought provoking

[@sarin.2421]

Eye opener. Always loved you guys thank you for sharing this. I watched them in the past and never unfollowed them... will do now tho. It was pure out of curiosity that i haven't yet. But i do not want to support those kind of people!

[@jegardlena]

100% agree and well put. But this actually came to mind when you shared your own son's diagnosis recently, something very private that if I was him wouldn't necessarily want the world to know about. Isn't this similar to what this other family is going?

[@iluvpeaches2]

This is exactly why y’all never blew up. You have integrity and values. I feel like every family that blows up on the internet has at one time had to go against their integrity and values, or even sadder, never had them to begin with. That’s why I love watching and supporting your family. ❤

[@kate1356]

A video like this needed to be put out there.. I did watch their videos for quite a while but became increasing uncomfortable with some of their actions as time went on.

[@ljohagen]

So incredibly well said.

[@bethf7192]

Completely agree. Your channel is the most ethical family blog I've ever seen.

[@KatieBowmer]

I don’t always agree with you, but this needed to be said! he makes me so uncomfortable and I truly think his kids will end up so damaged in the future because of his behaviour:(

[@beibhinnoleary]

Very very well said! I am in complete agreement with you.

[@LaLaaLori]

Such an important conversation and so eloquently put 👏

[@leaturner4797]

I stopped watching them when it came out about them giving the children cold showers to "discipline" them, made me so angry. The family is vile. Thank you for speaking up about them.

[@MikhilaGames]

I didn’t hear about that at the time but given the lens this video put on them.. I don’t believe they ever did that. It was rage bait in it’s most basic form

[@MikhilaGames]

For clarity: I’m not a fan, I just mean it’s another example to back up the video

[@katinabianca]

It’s so sad, I watched them like ten years ago and they honestly were quite normal back then. I mean yeah they shares their kids online since the moment they were conceived, but the form of content was okay in my eyes. It’s horrific to see what has become of them nowadays, I really don’t even want to watch them anymore and I don’t even want to imagine what their content will look like in 5 years 🫠

[@star_wars_miniatures]

I completely understand where you’re coming from 😊

[@sabr8399]

Ah. This video smashes it. I don’t think you’re jealous or envious either haha. This is a family channel I find to be non offensive, beneficial and productive in my life. I’m a single 28 year old woman living in Manchester, nearly purchased a home in Portugal too. You’ll find the viewers who resonate and you guys definitely advocate for so much more than views and dollar. Keeping you all in my prayers ❤

[@whythrowaway]

I’m watching because i think deeply about motivations of people as well and the economic system we are active consumers in that is failing welfare of people. You can be a worrier or a warrior.

[@harrietpatchett1561]

I 100% agree with you, I feel extremely uncomfortable with their channel. They are exposing their children’s childhood, feelings, emotions and thoughts too much, they are children and they won’t want this much personal info out there!

[@lynnesmith4692]

Could not agree more with this. I unsubscribed many years ago. I’ve never been someone who watches content that I don’t like or people I don’t like because why would I want to support them? Jonathon makes me extremely uncomfortable and has done for a long time and I have genuine concern over the trauma he could be causing his children as a result of what he puts online - at the end of the day, they are the innocent ones who have to live with it for the rest of their lives. It’s a mad mad world we live in

[@leannelee7185]

so glad you put this out there! I haven't been able to watch their videos for quite some time now as it makes me feel very uneasy on behalf of the children. I think they have become very tangled, such a shame.

[@lovelifementoring5399]

Couldn't agree more.

[@888julianman]

Great points! I would say, you have been lenient with them - the Father in particularl is a truly vile individual