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@emmanthegoat6 ай бұрын
Tracy o ya 😎🔥 but the luffy part in the beginning 😐
@Humanarec6 ай бұрын
I don't understand why yall hate bleach
@Stormzyyyyy6 ай бұрын
Female cast for One Piece instead of Bleach thats crazy what has Nami done compared to Senjumaru compared to Yoruichi shes just for comedy she hasnt done shit im at episdoe 1k and Bleach has Better Villains than naruto and One Piece Yhwach and Aizen are the top vilains we cant count the Akatsuki as main villains theyre like the Espada and Sternritters
@Stormzyyyyy6 ай бұрын
One Piece Character Designs suck Naruto and Bleach are way better
@ffgnikhilgaming96215 ай бұрын
@@Stormzyyyyy yeah in whole conversation he was only saying One Piece to every point, like in power scaling its, Bleach Naruto Luffy And it's objectively correct, but they started downplaying Madara that even characters like Whitebeard could beat him, which is totally wrong.
@AbelFrost6 ай бұрын
I know most of these come down to preference at the end of the day. But as a Bleach fan, I appreciate you Rob debating that Bleach have the better villains. I feel theirs been more Bleach love sprinkled in from the first time I discovered your channel, so that's always appreciated. I will say, I do hope one day you find someone who's a huge Bleach fan as you are a OP fan to come on your channel to really take a stance on some of these type of topics. Best side cast, best female characters? Bleach wasnt even in the discussion, like damn. Even if Bleach still isn't chosen at the end, this is when I wish someone who really rocks with Bleach like that was on here, so they can throw some knowledge down to give an educated debate.
@lazy_muken6 ай бұрын
Nah, fr tho
@simonchen74526 ай бұрын
Actual gud take
@Hattori_8646 ай бұрын
Bleach fire fr, and definitely has one of the greatest influences on new gen anime, but while I can debatably give it best side cast, I can't give it best female cast
@AbelFrost6 ай бұрын
@Hattori_864 That's fair man, I respect it. Should be a head to head with OP and Bleach on that topic, Naruto shouldn't even be in the conversation 😂..But my point is, at the very least, it should have been debated because Bleach got a hell of a lot of females in the cast, whether you looking at how strong they are, usefulness, or fan service (waifu material) Bleach got that in the bag for discussion.
@AntiMage996 ай бұрын
Im surprised they gave best transformation to naruto even tho bleach is way ahead on that department.
@SpyGaming20056 ай бұрын
To help with bleach being the face of influence you can look at yuji, todo, and gojo and say they're pretty much exactly like ichigo, kenpachi, and kisuke, then the theme of human group slaying monsters, that is bleach's exact base, other examples of it is chainsaw man, attack on titan, and demon slayer. The gotei 13 of demon slayer is the demon slayer corps and the hashira is like the captains. And after watching how influential bleach is it turns out that bleach inspired the writer of my hero to draw and create his own zanpakuto.
@denobiskenechi16826 ай бұрын
Please tell me how csm,mha and aot are inspired by bleach Bro bleach fans always trying to claim any new popular shounen anime. Soon they'll say undead unlock, blue lock and horimiya are inspired by bleach
@Songoku-dm4nd6 ай бұрын
bruh dragonball is infleunce
@za-ir5ni6 ай бұрын
You're literally just taking basic concepts and trying to find a similarity to something in Bleach and claiming that it's therefore an influence. For one, you're straight up lying about CSM since Fujimoto said his influences were western movies and anime like FLCL and Jin Roh. Same goes for AOT and Demon Slayer where the writers never brought up Bleach. Nice try
@za-ir5ni6 ай бұрын
@beastxdddMost of those writers never mentioned Bleach you liar.
@frosty376 ай бұрын
Naruto influenced: Demon slayer KaguraBachi JJK MHA
@do76856 ай бұрын
Bleach had to be discussed in transformations. The espada' resureccion forms go crazy, even though naruto is my no.1 anime
@andrelima41256 ай бұрын
Reiatsu is much more than just Ki. The whole powersystem of how a shinigami's shikai and bankai relates to their own personality and the masks we wear versus the release of all of my being. and how deeply it connects to the shinigami soul. And thats just the shinigami part
@CurryMuncher4445 ай бұрын
Literally, they all just didn’t even talk about it. Imo it’s one of the best power systems.
@veriloxent4 ай бұрын
bleach awesome
@PetAsh6 ай бұрын
Yall wrong with the face of influence, it was stated by gege that his series was influenced by bleach same thing with demon slayer. With JJK for example cursed spirits being similar to hollows, gojo being similar in personailty to kisuke (although looks similar to kakashi), Gege stated also that Todo is inspired by Kenpachi and there are many other stuff. For Demon slayer the Hashira being similar to the idea of Captains in bleach, and to kill demons by a special metal sword is similar to killing hollows with the Zanpaktous etc.. many more stuff also such as Balck Clover having the Captians idea, for example Nozel is similar to Byakuya, Jack the reaper to Noitora (espada no.5), the whole plot twist with Julius which is a carbon copy of Aizens. I think that bleach is really the most influential out of the big 3.
@simonchen74526 ай бұрын
💯 brudda know ball unlike some haters 😭
@Muhammad_marij6 ай бұрын
There’s also aot, mikasa is just a more tougher Rukia in terms of character design
@UhhFaint6 ай бұрын
they just loving hating on bleach bro
@SamuelRondreigz47206 ай бұрын
PREACH
@Elen_aru6 ай бұрын
Plot twist with Julius was foreshadowed from first arc Bleach is most influential, no doubt here Even Asta becoming swordsman was inspired by it I think
@agnologiashivers81466 ай бұрын
they underestimate Bleach too much, it's clear from the creator of Black Clover himself who said that the captains were inspired by Gotei 13, the problematic relationship between the brothers in Black Clover was also inspired by Rukia and Byakuya, even the author himself said that he was one of Bleach's lovers. Previously, not only that, Jujutsu Kaisen started from a domain similar to Bankai Tosen, Gojo's power was similar in concept to Streinreitter W, even JJK scenes came from Bleach, and the author also said that he made comics inspired by Bleach, not only that Kimetsu No Yaiba also said the same thing, so yes, Bleach is acknowledged by many new gen authors as their inspiration, just try reading their interviews
@Yo421696 ай бұрын
And also the fact that Gege made Gojo while trying to create a Kenpachi clone
@WieldMyWord6 ай бұрын
Not only that, but even League of legends took the word "shunpo" and implemented it as an ability for Katarina (one of the main promotion character of the game) in the game, the franchise had even big influence outside of anime. These guys are smoking so high on biases its not even funny.
@sharebear4215 ай бұрын
Black clover is mid though. Bleach is undoubtedly one of the goats
@ChrisMS08155 ай бұрын
When I first started watching Black Clover instantly got Bleach vibes from it. Where did he get Naruto from? Because Asta yells like an idiot like Naruto?
@romanssensei6 ай бұрын
W video as always bro! 👑 Tsukishima is an underrated villain from Bleach also who deserves more flowers! He broke Ichigo down with finesse 🔥
@ShonenShowdown6 ай бұрын
Yoo what’s up bro! Yeah Bleach villains are tough
@Blankseeker6 ай бұрын
Yo I love your videos
@yotheyfighting9226 ай бұрын
Ginjo is literally better
@307nishchay84 ай бұрын
@@yotheyfighting922 ginjo was fine..but my uncle tsukishima literally made ichigo beg and cry lmao. It was the first time ichigo felt that lonely and abandoned. It was scary af for me.
@yotheyfighting9224 ай бұрын
@@307nishchay8 I agree. Tsukishima was a badass but Ginjo was the reason all of this occurred in the first place
@Aizen22456 ай бұрын
12:12 Main character: one piece Deuteragonist: naruto Side cast: one piece Female cast: Bleach Villians: bleach Fights: bleach Plot/story: naruto Art: bleach Transformation: one piece/bleach Character design: bleach Emotional impact: one piece Power system: one piece Anime: naruto Manga: one piece Strongest: bleach World building: one piece
@mincilimcisaacmaseko24526 ай бұрын
Fights deffs Naruto
@solomongrey53395 ай бұрын
I'd give the fights to Naruto since they're more complex and aren't always linear and clear like in bleach plot maybe should go to one piece since it never deviates from the goal of become the pirate king power system should go to bleach since it's far more complex and it's shown a lot of variety: shinigami with zanpaktou, shunpo, kido, spirit tech, hollowification; hollows with evolution, resurrection, hierro and sonido; quincy with reishi absorption, arrows, vollstanding, shrift, blut vene and arterie; fullbringers with object's soul manipulation, fullbring.
@KuRoSheeP905 ай бұрын
@@mincilimcisaacmaseko2452 Pls SEE Blood War or Fights un Manga...
@KuRoSheeP905 ай бұрын
Power System One Piece, Literal Haki is the most Shit Oda CREATED,sorry But athis go To Bleach, Shikai, Bankai, Reiatsu,Self Deployment, Zanpakutou NAME, Race and Origin Bro....Wtf OP
@baniyabaniya95079 күн бұрын
@@KuRoSheeP90so does to naruto If you have high chakra doesnot matter if you have room temp iq you are winning
@kristoffaudain94786 ай бұрын
i think bleach is the most influential. black clover for example was inspired by it
@sharebear4215 ай бұрын
Black clover is mid, bleach has inspired better series
@solomongrey53395 ай бұрын
@@sharebear421 how so? it's not really lacking in anything is it? good arcs, good progression, character development, good art which even improved with time, good female cast.
@sharebear4215 ай бұрын
@@solomongrey5339 characters are extremely one note and usually flat out cringe with yuno being probably the worst deuteragonist in battle shonen, it feels very Disney like with super low stakes/outcomes. MC is suuuuper generic and cliche and quite annoying even in the English dub. Most of the cast outside of the black bulls are non existent or get little to do. Villains are probably some of the most under developed and feel very cookie cutter. Art is great but the power system is pretty basic and feels very reminiscent of fairy tail mixed with zatch bell. I wouldn’t say a good female cast either, alot of tropes and most are pretty basic or boring. Idk it’s not a bad series but it’s not very good either, just very middling/average. Reminds me alot of fairy tail
@darthkage21635 ай бұрын
@@sharebear421mate you clearly not intelligent enough to get past the surface level of the story of the characters, clear example of this is saying asta is annoying because if you had any concept of human emotions and fears you would easily understand why asta is loud in the earlier part of the series it's a defence mechanism against not only everyone around him constantly talking down to him for being a no magic peasant but also against is own self doubts he shouts to silence those self doubts and once he realised people believe in him and is dream he shouts less you clear don't know what you talking about every take you given just shows your lack of intelligence
@AfterLaserX4 ай бұрын
@@sharebear421 never let bro cook again. tbh, Naruto has inspired more, but one piece inspired nothin'
@AM3ZING2126 ай бұрын
Bleach has Influenced way more new gen anime, the creators themselves have come out and stated this multiple times
@do76856 ай бұрын
Kinda tuff too compare because honestly almost any shonen after 2014 has a LOT of tropes from the big 3 e.g. MHA, Black clover, JJK, those are some obvious ones
@KhalidAbdelgader6 ай бұрын
@do7685 nah it's easy when you have those many authors saying bleach and not naruto or one piece
@WieldMyWord6 ай бұрын
@@do7685 JJK is almost the same as bleach, some of the plot twist are almost directly how it was in Bleach. Hollows and cursed spirit is very alike if you read the early bleach chapters in how supernatural the setting was. Even the Mai Zenin vs Maki Zenin had almost the same conclusion as Yoruichi vs Soifon battle, Mai crying in the end and asking why Maki left her is almost one to one in how it happened in Bleach. As for mha and BC they have less inspiration but the authors have said bleach was an inspiration in their career, so..
@sharebear4215 ай бұрын
@@KhalidAbdelgaderjust because an author mentions bleach as an imposition doesn’t meant it’s the only one they were inspired by lol most authors aren’t gonna make a list of everything they were inspired by
@j19l8r46 ай бұрын
me as a bleach fan *sees another bleach downplay* *sips coffee* nothing new
@DeafeatedSamuelB6 ай бұрын
Right there with you brother
@tusk23585 ай бұрын
Ngl my heart is aching rn ❤
@vivilover94093 ай бұрын
feels like every anime youtuber grew up with naruto as their fav and likes one piece the best rn because of how its still hype to discuss and speculate about with the ongoing story and they all ignore bleach
@micah4596 ай бұрын
The disrespect to Bleach in the "things the big 3 does the best" take. Homie really said Madara had more swag than Aizen? Dude who got outsmarted and defeated by Zetsu? Villains, Art, Character Designs, MC, Transformations, and strongest should all go to Bleach imo. It's always sad to see how many people either haven't read Bleach or just disrespect it because it's the least popular. Also, Tracey is half correct about his influence take. The JJK author cited both Naruto and Bleach as heavy influences. There's also more mangaka that I've seen say Bleach heavily influenced their show.
@hihello-sk5ql6 ай бұрын
Ok, Aizen's amazing, thing is, aside from Aizen, who do you got?, did you forgot about pain? the guy who literally made Naruto questioned his own ideals? his cycle of hate speech alone has more depth it's still being talked about to this day, Hell, it's a disrespect to pain to say Madara was a better villain than him, sure, he's cooler, thats the only thing he got over pain, Depth, Dynamics to the MC, Ideals, Pain quite literally is the best villain in the big 3
@micah4596 ай бұрын
@@hihello-sk5ql Tsukishima, Yhwach, Grimmjow, Ulquiorra, etc. If you think the only good villain in Bleach is Aizen, then you clearly haven't watched/read the series. Pain is cool and better than Madara but he still got talk-no-jutsu by Naruto
@anthonyhaye23856 ай бұрын
Tokinada clears all Naruto villians@@hihello-sk5ql
@The.King.In.Black.6 ай бұрын
How is ichigo a better mc than luffy?
@hihello-sk5ql6 ай бұрын
@@micah459 grimjow isn't even a main villain dude's more like a katakuri villain, who df cares about tsukishima? Not to mention he appeared in the worst arc from bleach
@KD-ik9mv6 ай бұрын
Most definitely want another one of these. Tracy and Shonen Showdown isn’t what I expected to see to see today, but I’m all here for it. Definitely a collab that I thought I wouldn’t get😁
@Mathis-pr3dm6 ай бұрын
yo rob, just wanna say thankyou for reading all the comments all the time, we really appreciate that :)
@ShonenShowdown6 ай бұрын
No doubt! Thanks for always watching and showing love!
@Lucifer-pc6jg6 ай бұрын
@@ShonenShowdown yo Rob I'm kinda confused on something. I hope you see this. Why are stands highly rated but not quirks ? I don't think there's a big difference. Both are based on luck unless I'm missing something.
@Mathis-pr3dm6 ай бұрын
@@Lucifer-pc6jg i think stands are just more broken, look at time stop and giorno stands for example
@Lucifer-pc6jg6 ай бұрын
@@Mathis-pr3dm yeah but broken doesn't mean better tho. The same logic applies here there's nothing someone with a shitty stand can do against someone with a broken stand
@acedragneellegacy14086 ай бұрын
I SWEAR IF EVERYONE OF THEM READ BLEACH LIKE THEY READ ONE PIECE BLEACH WOULD BE TOP 2 FOR THEM We really don’t deserve Kubo man Shonen Showdown the only one who understood a little bit of bleach
@Corvoscathe6 ай бұрын
Tired of Bleach being slept on, it’s so goated
@Sanoy10106 ай бұрын
i don't think its people's problem that they do not read bleach. its bleach problem that they are so inconsistent with the anime that people lost all their motive to read it.. if it was as consistent as one piece with its anime it would have motivated people more for reading manga.....
@acedragneellegacy14086 ай бұрын
@@Sanoy1010 i get your point of view and not gonna lie, the bleach anime before tybwa was butchered with fillers but most of the people i know and seen on social media who decided to read bleach till the tybw and then watch the anime actually realizes how deep and how well crafted the story actually is
@acedragneellegacy14086 ай бұрын
@@Sanoy1010 and for KZbin channels which specifically talk about anime, you’d expect that they at least read all of the big 3 and not just “I watched it when i was young no need to watch or read the manga”
@Corvoscathe6 ай бұрын
@@Sanoy1010 I would not be calling the One Piece anime consistent 💀, also, that’s just working on a new season, that’s not inconsistency, especially considering the TYBW anime has been made better than the manga
@specialeffects64156 ай бұрын
these guys generally hurt my head
@justsomeguywithamustache29016 ай бұрын
One piece- best protagonist, best plot and best world building Naruto- best fights, best deuteragonist, best deaths and best antagonists Bleach-best character designs, best osts, best villain, best side characters, best female cast, best plot twist, best power system, best animation and best elevated source material if we include tybw arc
@primeboi2426 ай бұрын
Yea naruto is the weakest out of big 3, my favourite is blech
@ShonenShowdown6 ай бұрын
Not mad at it but I would change some things
@superelite51336 ай бұрын
Bleach so goated
@jayanmazumder3596 ай бұрын
Best pacing and deuteragonist goes to naruto and power system is naruto but I could see bleach too, one piece takes animation cus it’s been the most consistent
@kristopherwillis80756 ай бұрын
I like this 😌
@elbandito29906 ай бұрын
Bleach directly is stated to have inspired Gege with JJK. Iirc it also inspired Black Clover and a few others. Also has tons of other great villains. Almost no one in the other series is as sinister as Tsukishima with how he messed with the MC on a personal level. Ginjo being a what if version of Ichigo, Grimmjow bringing out Ichigo's true self and eve Ulqiorra being a morale battle for Ichigo.
@The-One-Eyed-Grim-Reaper6 ай бұрын
I like how Tracy is the only unbiased one of the three
@SaiyajinJay6 ай бұрын
bleach gettin slept on consistently
@rakenabid29166 ай бұрын
They forget espada, full bring, bankai, volstandich transformation.
@Thesilentvoice...6 ай бұрын
A lot of the new gen series are inspired by bleach. Also I feel many anime fans forget too easily of the story of bleach. They barely remember anything outside of the first two major acts. You see influence of bleach especially in JJK. yuji and ichigo are literally similar in their goals to protect others, and are thrust into it after getting given power (sukuna/rukia). Plus they both aren’t fully human. Demon slayer is basically bleach but set in a different time period, and chainsaw man has similarities with the devils in comparison to hollows. Similar with curses too.
@zblanko6 ай бұрын
Rob tryna give some love to bleach is really nice, appreciate it.
@prynce.6 ай бұрын
They try so hard not to say Bleach lmao, to me it just proves how truly underrated Bleach is because I believe it's the best outta the big 3 but you see so many anime/manga channels barely mentioning it
@Swagjutsusolosfiction6 ай бұрын
Because it's not the best in the big three😂😂that's why
@simonchen74526 ай бұрын
Tru, but rob at least trying to
@prynce.6 ай бұрын
@@Swagjutsusolosfiction oh it is
@yaJA._.6 ай бұрын
@@prynce.what makes it the best to you
@prynce.6 ай бұрын
@@yaJA._. everything from the characters, world building, character designs, the lore, the symbolism, the art, what more do you want?
@hulkgamer97783 ай бұрын
I am 18 minutes and 47 seconds into this and I feel sad that bleach hasn't gotten a single one yet
@PinoHolly046 ай бұрын
Regardless on how much I agree this was really fun to watch. Man you gotta love how everything changes when someone brings up luffy vs naruto😂, you can litteraly feel the air change and the pressire rising ahahaha
@thechristianninja22116 ай бұрын
I've seen a lot of comments about bleach. I've watched the anime but haven't read the manga. This is the time for the anime to shine when it comes back. It better make quite the impression.
@BajBaj04043 ай бұрын
Influence with newgen is definitely Bleach. Demon slayer and JJK are some of the biggest manga/anime right now, and their authors noted that Kubo was a big inspiration for them. Gege Akutami even has an interview in the JJK character guide book
@Thatlostadmiral6 ай бұрын
Legendary Collaboration Fr
@gonfreeccs84416 ай бұрын
You can't seal him since 12:04 he can control his soul to get out of the seal that's binding him and domain expansion won't work since he can regenerate the damage and he can fight even if his brain is fried
@jaredhigham8695 ай бұрын
I can not stand by as they continue to speak the utter lie that Black Clover is more inspired by Naruto. Black Clover has 3 main inspirations, Dragon Ball, Bleach, and Berserk with Yu yu hakusho thrown in.
@mightyneedafan6 ай бұрын
Podcast on memes and things ppl post about anime. Great stuff, it doesn’t get realer than this
@haki7man6 ай бұрын
One piece the only anime that can make me cry over a ship.
@Berlin_XD6 ай бұрын
How is my man saying JJK is influenced by Naruto like wth Domain Expansions are LITERALLY Bankai on smaller scales. Gege Akutami himself said he's inspired by Bleach. If you remember Gojo getting sealed and you coinside it with Aizen getting sealed, it's similar af
@Swagjutsusolosfiction5 ай бұрын
Gege also stated he based gojos character off a naruto side character named tobito tobitake, he based megumi and yujis relationship of Naruto and Sasukes, and that gojo ain't on kakashis lvl. He also stated he was inspired by dragon ball and yuyu Hakusho along with hunter x hunter
@justsomeguywithabluepfp80344 ай бұрын
Jjk domain expansion feels more like Mana Zone from black clover
@zxcvb37723 ай бұрын
If you can't tell the immediate similarity with JJK and Naruto then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe it's the fact that we have a main trio consists of 2 male MC and 1 female MC, as well as a teacher figure who looks exactly like Kakashi.
@nenduksai6 ай бұрын
I feel like this video is really good when you collab with people.
@Thatfan8646 ай бұрын
Ngl I would be lying if I said yall aren’t biased but overall great vid tbh
@sanketrokz60992 ай бұрын
As for Villans,female cast, art and drip Bleach gonna be there
@kyng_spade6 ай бұрын
The Bleach disrespect
@The.King.In.Black.6 ай бұрын
Not disrespect, just personal preference You can think bleach is better, i can think one piece is better
@Johnny24-dl3ig5 ай бұрын
A s it should. The worst of the big 3 btw
@kyng_spade5 ай бұрын
@@Johnny24-dl3ig Bleach > Naruto
@Johnny24-dl3ig5 ай бұрын
@@kyng_spade Nope
@kyng_spade5 ай бұрын
@@Johnny24-dl3ig OG Naruto was peak but Shippuden just didn't capture the feel of the original
@nesyee5 ай бұрын
18:46 yall forgot about tokinada
@Silver-Ball_Z6 ай бұрын
18:54 wow.. even after naruto finished in 2017, they still think naruto has the best fight compare to the other two big 3 ... now that is something..
@WieldMyWord6 ай бұрын
yeah its kinda wild considering after JJK and demon slayer, the animation expectation is much higher than it has ever been. Even the high points of the animation in naruto are common animation today.
@zxcvb37723 ай бұрын
Naruto has the best fight scene and choreography of the big 3, and it's not even close. It doesn't matter if the series finished 10 years ago. Samurai Champloo came out 20 years ago and it still has one of the best fight sequence ever.
@samtipa28344 ай бұрын
For Bleach villians im surprised Ulquiorra wasn't included, and also the pre-villains that become good before we even met Aizen.
@animanco68336 ай бұрын
The power is always fascinating. It really inspired me to think of my own for a manga series I'm working on.
@greg77176 ай бұрын
13:14 No way you hit the sad music when he started talking about naruto 😭
@NeeilsRoze81319 күн бұрын
Gotta respect the tradition 😂
@furryfloofer87426 ай бұрын
Ichigo with every bankai might actually WIN in a battle like this, since every bankai gets a 10x stat amp, which might actually close the gap between Ichigo, and Goku statwise, and since I believe Ichigo goes up to start of DBS before it's game over, and Adult Ichigo being needed to go further in the DB verse... it's not TOO much of a stretch for the gap to close in this one specific instance. In addition to all the absurd hax all Bankai have. If Ichigo doesn't win...he's at least EASILY second place, almost every single bankai is just so fucking broken, and Ichigo is easily the most powerful person presented in this picture behind Goku normally in the first place.
@DC-rb3uz6 ай бұрын
What you said about quirks same can be for devil fruit there are lots of useless devil fruit out there. One thing I like about quirks how technical they are.
@WieldMyWord6 ай бұрын
devil fruits are just like pokemon, fire beats grass and water beats fire, its a fine power system but its very basic and broken once the logia types became a thing and Oda realized it was an stupid idea and went with haki to neglect everything.
@Ichigoo-kurosaki3 ай бұрын
Nah bro y'all did bleach so dirty and messed up in this😭
@XxDream_CasterxX6 ай бұрын
Madara manipulated the whole world thinking he was alive the whole time. And madara doesn't need to hallucinate anyone to do it.
@kelvinallen93276 ай бұрын
That was obito. And he needed a "mask" to do it 👍
@XxDream_CasterxX6 ай бұрын
@@kelvinallen9327 all in madara's plan not obito's
@micah4596 ай бұрын
Who also got outsmarted and killed by Zetsu?
@kavonuhidk-yq3er6 ай бұрын
Aizen typing
@UhhFaint6 ай бұрын
didn’t he get tricked and killed by obito? ☠️☠️☠️ couldn’t be aizen lmaoo
@Vongolafight66 ай бұрын
Crazy how undead unluck is over 200 chapter yet people know so little about it. Andy with every negator ability would be insanely busted
@NeeilsRoze81319 күн бұрын
I think many factor that makes it such a letdown to the viewer. The biggest reason I heard was it's trapped in Disney/hulu jail and the fact the MC and the earlier eps can't grab the audiences attention well
@D1king276 ай бұрын
I'm not gonna lie they did Ichigo with every Bankai dirty. That's Ichigo with existence erasure, immortality, making everyone fight each other while thinking he;s their ally, control of the color black plus a 10 times boost per Bankai, he is definitely a match for Goku.
@KingDreams6 ай бұрын
Bruh the hate on Bleach was insane.... Character design, transformations its Bleach easily, not just on the Big 3 but Bleach is undeniably Top 3 best character design in any shonen.
@do76856 ай бұрын
Easily is a strong word, but i definitelyhear you. The resureccion forms and character designs go hard
@Sephirothkingdom7826 ай бұрын
Problem is they aren’t very important to a good story
@do76856 ай бұрын
@@Sephirothkingdom782 Lowkey true, but character design in bleach is definitley underrated. The arrancar resureccion's go hard
@Sephirothkingdom7826 ай бұрын
@@do7685 I wouldn’t say underrated, because they definitely deserve the praise because a lot of character designs go very hard
@ChrisMS08155 ай бұрын
One Piece looks too goofy to me to win character designs, Bleach has the best character designs easily.
@D_deal11016 ай бұрын
Love the collab, yall damn near the big 3
@davidbrooks91346 ай бұрын
Tracy was wild for that father joke😂
@hypergogeta136 ай бұрын
Love the vids Rob keep up the great work. I do feel like Bleach ain't getting enough love tho like tybw by itself has better animation and art than anything I've seen in Naruto or One Piece, and Bleach's sound design is really unmatched, Outside of just Aizen and Ywach villains like Ulquiorra and Grimmjow were both amazing and flushed out in their own right, I definetly feel their character designs are the best(that's really just personal opinion this is very subjective), and the female cast for Bleach was so underrated its insane on both the hero and villain side.
@simonchen74526 ай бұрын
Truuuuu. Also bleach fasho got most influence on new gen of the big 3.
@ShonenShowdown6 ай бұрын
I did try to bring up Grimmjow too, trust haha
@hypergogeta136 ай бұрын
@@ShonenShowdown I did peep that lol, much love man your vids been getting me through my junior year of hs fr
@hypergogeta136 ай бұрын
@@simonchen7452 I forgot to mention that but yea fs
@Swagjutsusolosfiction6 ай бұрын
Calling the women underrated is crazy. When people say orhime solos both one piece and Naruto. They say bleach has the best women in the best and some of the best in anime. That's not underrated in the slightest
@MrColeoly3 ай бұрын
i personally think that if you consider Devil Fruit the power system in OP, and not Haki for this list, you should consider Zanpakuto as one instead and I find that way better than Reiatsu
@shauryadeshwal73686 ай бұрын
As some caught up to the Manga of Undead Unluck, Andy has become even more OP. Here are some major spoilers, The dude has mastered a soul manipulation technique and now can fight with his soul even if his body is captured/immobile and directly attack opponents souls. He was chilling on Sun(Fire slowed his regeneration in early series) for Billions of years while using his soul technique to hold back 10 of the strongest UMA/rules in the series(including death,luck,change etc.). He can create copies and send his copy to Earth from Sun to fight a villain. The panel of Andy sitting on the Sun goes really really hard. One of the best.He is certainly very strong and unkillable unless we talk really OP characters.
@animanco68336 ай бұрын
Goddamn it. It seems like the only way to really kill Andy besides sealing is some other ability to completely negate/destroy his. Or use hakai from dragon ball.
@shauryadeshwal73686 ай бұрын
@@animanco6833 The only way to kill him is to have higher level of Reality Warping powers that can take away his Undead ability or Just override it. Also, he can easily adapt to the technique that does not kill him instantly.
@spark32386 ай бұрын
lucius can erase him from the timeline. any otsusuki can teleport him to an empty dimension.
@shauryadeshwal73686 ай бұрын
@@spark3238 He is currently 1 v 10 against the Master Rules that include Rule of Death,Luck,Time,Change,Soul etc. If the embodiment of Time cannot kill him or the death itself, then I doubt Lucious's time Magic will work.
@spark32386 ай бұрын
@@shauryadeshwal7368 Lucius can remove him from timeline it will be like he was never born. I doubt Andy can negate that
@Shaquillemcleary6 ай бұрын
Love the TYBW fights but ngl old bleach fight were better. The Tybw fight in the manga made em seems a lot longer than what we actually got there wasn't much back and forth like with the espadas. Once the captains got stronger it was easy for them ngl. Yhwach and the royal guard were the only ones who really seem like threats.
@THEMilesMorales6 ай бұрын
Wsg Rob I've been pretty early lately it's been good to see you
@ShonenShowdown6 ай бұрын
What’s up?! You really early haha
@THEMilesMorales6 ай бұрын
@@ShonenShowdown I've been chilling man wbu
@nxkx40796 ай бұрын
for villains how was the most hyped up person in naruto defeated by a fucking asspull kaguya
@ThunderGuy116 ай бұрын
Bleach underrated as always.
@Beefybeef57856 ай бұрын
This was a STELLAR collab. Tracy and Jared clashing with each other was very entertaining with Rob as the mediator, with a bit of sneaky spices to throw into the mix. Loved it overall
@pabloxdark25 күн бұрын
26:36 You are sleeping on Andy here. Undead + Unjustice + Unluck would be enough to solo the majority on this list. Going even further we could talk about negator abilities such as Unrepair, Untoucheable, Unmove, Untruth or Untrust. But what really seals the deal is Unfair. Because if we do verse equalisation Unfair + Undead is enough to solo every single one from these list
@Sinral3566 ай бұрын
y’all did bleach dirty bro 😭 bleach has the best villains,OST,art,transformations (debatable asf) and VERY hot take but MC too.
@Nagoto_Uzumaki6 ай бұрын
Naruto has the better villian, ost. I agree transformation is debatable, but other than Ichigo transformation, I think rest aren’t that good tbh (I’m an anime only btw for Bleach)
@BrennanRJones3 ай бұрын
@@Nagoto_Uzumakiain’t no way you really said Naruto had a better ost than bleach black has the absolute best ost in ALL of anime
@Kenos3473 ай бұрын
@@Nagoto_Uzumakithere is no villain better than Aizen in naruto
@oumsd90733 ай бұрын
@@Kenos347we’re talking about villains not just one
@oumsd90733 ай бұрын
@@BrennanRJonesnooooo naruto’s ost betterrrr
@najiipajii24686 ай бұрын
I think bleach influences the most new gens however good vid overall
@Swagjutsusolosfiction5 ай бұрын
It only inspired black clover, demon slayer, and jjk. Naruto inspired kagurabachi, jjk, blue exorcist, and a few more underrated anime that I don't feel like typing
@naughtyNuGetzz235 ай бұрын
@@Swagjutsusolosfictionman said bleach only inspired 3 insanely massive series 💀 bleach won that bro let it go
@oppositionforces59886 ай бұрын
So much Naruto and One Piece meatriding going on 😂😂
@sharebear4215 ай бұрын
Rob shows love to all series, even though one piece is his favorite. The gabe dude he has on sometimes is a hater though and naruto/dbz stan
@watcher3141596 ай бұрын
The Best: Alchemy, Nen, Stands. Great: Reiryoku, Cursed Energy, Devil Fruits/Haki (they're way too interrelated to consider separately, and you can't appreciate their brilliance until you grok that), Mana. Good: Quirks, Fear, Magic, Magical Power, Limiter, Chakra. Okay: Pokemon, Breathing Style, Ki. Mid: Titan Shifting, Ignition. I confess, I really don't give the Admirals much credit. Garp and Sengoku are the only ones to really stand out as impressive to me. But the really important thing is that Teach has that whack perversion of the Will of D going on. That's what truly makes him endgame, not any powerscaling. I dunno, dattebayo/believe it might give bankai a run for its money. I'm still gonna take bankai as the most iconic though. It's not just JJK that can seal Andy. Cosmic Garou's time manipulation can erase him as well, for example. Imma give Bleach the villains and transformations, and One Piece the emotional impact. Naruto takes deuteragonist by virtue of the category being created for it. I could quibble on some other points, but there aren't any hills I'll die on. Again, I'm not gonna die on any hills here. You really need to be careful with your definitions. Goku's base power level and accompanying hax resistance puts him on another level, but what really lets him solo is his speed. Saitama's combination of power and speed puts him as runner up, followed by Ichigo and Naruto (with Shibai BS).
@CoconutREAL1115 ай бұрын
I feel like andy beats gojo, even when hit by his domain bc 1) Andy can probably regenerate his brain (if it would contribute to his death) 2) Andy is shown to move without using his brain (he has soul manipulation) 3) Even if he is immobilized whats gojo gonna do to him he can't die Andy can (probably) bypass infinity by using astral projection or some other soul shenanigans Andy is many times faster than light (his finger can travel from the sun to the earth in minutes) Idk abt andy's strength feats but he is very versatile and basically has unlimited blood manipulation.
@Dinoking226125 күн бұрын
another thing for bleach being the face of influence is cause its been said that the new gen mangakas have amited that they were inspirered by bleach
@outkasttm99324 ай бұрын
25:36 JJK is heavily inspired by Bleach. Along with Demon Slayer, Black Clover, and even a little bit MHA. All of the Mangaka of those series have given their props to Kubo for making Bleach, and inspiring them to make their own works.
@OpinionOnEverything2 ай бұрын
bro kamehameha is the most iconic
@byndmain521 күн бұрын
idk if you would consider yogiri new gen but if so then instant death would be the one thing to kill andy its stated that it can kill anyone or anything including the author so i dont see andy coming back from that unless he scales higher then the author
@sanketrokz60992 ай бұрын
Disrepect for Bleach is Unreal atleast for art and character design.
@NeeilsRoze81319 күн бұрын
Art is very debatable considering your taste. Naruto and One piece had a really great panel work which Bleach kinda lacking, especially background. But for Character design this is hands down goes to Bleach
@sanketrokz609919 күн бұрын
@NeeilsRoze813 nah you're wrong about knowing art is something which has to implease your mind you would like to go on with and also art in bleach is good that even slow story would make better act that is very best done by Tite kubo sensei I think you didn't read manga of bleach or just your one the new genz delusional anime watcher bye..
@MrColeoly3 ай бұрын
When it comes to Bleach Villians people shouldn't be overlooking Ginjo, Tsukishima, and arguably you could put the soul society during the SS arc. They were the villians initially. Aizen and Ywach are great and I think all 4 of those guys, especially if you include the SS and Grimmjow and Ulquiurra, are better villians.
@idk._.6366 ай бұрын
This one bouta be good
@ShonenShowdown6 ай бұрын
Yessir!!
@idk._.6366 ай бұрын
@@ShonenShowdownCbr made a new article "top 10 strongest anime characters kaiju no.8 could beat" is crazy u need to make a video about it
@omsingh44786 ай бұрын
Mate i gotta say, i think some of your takes are terrible but i fkn love this channel
@ShonenShowdown6 ай бұрын
That’s what it’s all about haha!! Some days we’ll agree and some we won’t
@gold33746 ай бұрын
Gonna have to disagree with chakra at highest. Chakra was very inconsistent imo
@sharebear4215 ай бұрын
The big 3 are goated and forever will be. My personal preference is one piece > bleach > naruto but all 3 are 10/10
@sinnie98896 ай бұрын
Gojo, Kenjaku, and Sukuna jumping him. Gojo is popping his domain. Andy gonna be stuck. and they gonna use the prison realm
@AJBOOMIN16 ай бұрын
Love how only tracey luaghed when he brought up his dad
@sterlingsloan66263 ай бұрын
Bleach definitely most influential. Being unable to see the influence it had on yalls examples for Naruto is crazy. Jjk and black clover were much more inspired by bleach.
@boredUser25 ай бұрын
It’s crazy it feels like your cohosts are bleach haters and it started when they said reiatsu should be knocked down but said nothing about chakra which💀
@thatoneintrovertedgirl6 ай бұрын
Quickly reminder, what Mihawk said about Luffy, Tsunade said the same about Naruto in the og series
@billards92856 ай бұрын
The Haki gas is crazy. There's no individuality to Haki. Everyone's Haki does basically the same thing. And that thing 99% of the time is just hit Harder. If you're lucky it's a little bit of precog. Precog + Hit Harder is literally all of Haki, and those are both things that exist in every power system to some extent.
@TheWildCard2k6 ай бұрын
That's majority of power system the difference is that it depends on on the characters using it and the mindset of said characters and the level of strenth that they face throughout there journey haki is a physical proof of how strong a characters grow and you can't train your haki you can only get it stronger by extreme diffs fights and haki bloom
@ShonenShowdown6 ай бұрын
Currently it looks like there’s much more stuff to explore when it comes to Haki. Shanks was shown to kill future sight. Then, there are different applications of Ryuo and conquerors that are showing each chapter
@cjcj48616 ай бұрын
@@ShonenShowdownyeah good content but I choose Hunter x Hunter everybody down play their characters that's why I choose it it's about time for you guys to start respecting Hunter x Hunter is now does anime / manga series coming back
@cjcj48616 ай бұрын
@@ShonenShowdownyeah good content but I choose Hunter x Hunter everybody down play their characters that's why I choose it it's about time for you guys to start respecting Hunter x Hunter is now does anime / manga series coming back
@gandalfissus6 ай бұрын
Facts
@thatoneintrovertedgirl6 ай бұрын
One Rasengan Uzuhiko and Andy is done, also Boruto can technically seal him or bring him to another dimension
@Biggz91925 ай бұрын
When we going to stop giving Naruto credit for something that was inspired by Bleach, the author of JJK literally stated in a interview the JJK is inspired by Bleach, that Todo was inspired by Kenpachi but somehow we keep giving Naruto credit….. even the captains from Black Clover were inspired by the captains from Bleach…. Bleach has inspired a lot more New Gen anime than Naruto has, it’s just how these anime’s present them it looks like Naruto….. even Gojo was inspired by Urahara not Kakashi.
@Domestic-Violet_206 ай бұрын
25:19 from my opinion ( i can be wrong ) : * demon slayer => bleach x jojo * JJK => bleach x naruto * black clover = > naruto x bleach * boku no hero => naruto
@yashmehta40875 ай бұрын
Bleach is arguably most inspiring in big 3 but it inspired mangakas they are not dumb as some shonen kids who didn't even understand bleach writing ☠️ Bleach and hxh clears in Inspiring and influence
@tigereK6 ай бұрын
Problem with Andy is that from what I know, he negates anything that he considers as death. So even when he gets completely erased and he consideres this as dying, he negates it. I might be wrong tho so don't take my word for it.
@royalfun10316 ай бұрын
Makes sense
@royalfun10316 ай бұрын
Willpower
@CurryMuncher4445 ай бұрын
Everyone sleeping on Bleach, the Bleach Power system is so good, you got Kido, Everyone has a different Shikai and Bankai, and even the bankais have a physical form. Also for transformation, Bleach has so many transformations, all the arrancars, all pf ichigos transformations which are amazing, aizens transformations which are also crazy, quincy transformations etc. I feel like everyone except Rob were sleeping on Bleach. I feel like y’all kinda read or watched Naruto and One Piece more than Bleach. Not saying y’all can’t have an opinion though👍🏾. Also influence goes to Bleach for sure, you all were talking about Black clover abd stuff and only talked about Yuno and Asta, but forget about everything else, like the squad captains, and with jjk too, Gojo is literally Urahara (especially the scene where Gojo puts his hand on the barrier which didn’t let him go through). Also you got curses which are badically hollows and then you also got the sorcerers who defeat these curses which are like soul reapers.
@dmn77446 ай бұрын
New here and I love this channel already! ❤️❤️
@fictionjunkie6 ай бұрын
Okay my hot take about Blackbeard, I don't think he's the final villain. I think he both literally and figuratively drowns in his own ambition. They said that during the time skip he's been going around collecting devil fruits and selecting the perfect fruits for his crew. I think there's some kind of obstacle to get to Laughtale and that's the reason Shanks crew can all swim and when Teach hits it he isn't going to have one person on his crew who can swim. I think he's going to drown because of his unquenchable thirst for power.
@PablooclueАй бұрын
Cursed energy negative energy different talents Reversed cursed technique positive energy Domain expansion unfair advantage
@jairacosta38046 ай бұрын
Only point I would disagree is that Naruto having the best transformation bleach definitely has it from the villains, MC, and sidecast like rukias bankai alone clears 90% Naruto’s transformation
@that_one_duck-idk5 ай бұрын
23:13 bro luffy can just imagine he will win and its over
@mystatnight6 ай бұрын
In the end I feel like Ichigo wins it, Raw power no Goku has it but like every bankai is crazy, Like Shinji's Bankai just makes it bs and combine it with Hirofude Ichimonji, Benihime Aratame, Katen Kyokutsu Karamtsu Shinju, Ichigo's True Bankai, Zanka No Tachi and pther solid support bankai and stuff Ichigo's got far too much hax he wins I mean Goku is the only one in debate otherwise everybody else just kill each other by Shinji's Bankai usage.
@johnnydouglas11754 ай бұрын
Funny…wait you serious 😂
@outkasttm99324 ай бұрын
27:35 It's Saitama. Every OPM ability, makes Saitama a cosmic god, with gravity ability's, esper ability's, can copy any technique he sees + insane growth pattern (on top of the one he already has), Meteoric Burst + Collapsing Star Roar Cannon, he can also spilt by fucking mitosis and then group up with other versions of himself, to make more powerful Golden, and Platinum versions. He becomes a martial arts master, every other S class + monster association ability. All of this is already on top of his Multi-Galaxy Level self. It's no contest.
@Micahxrico6 ай бұрын
I feel like anos sinbad and all the powerful characters don’t appear in these videos and I feel like those would be more funnier debates
@DeadHaremGuy6 ай бұрын
If I had to send a new gen characters after Andy I would send Shiki from Edens Zero. What's he gonna do against someone who can send him to space?
@baz99106 ай бұрын
Spoilers Andys currently been sat on the sun for about 4.6 billion years so you need more than that
@DeadHaremGuy6 ай бұрын
@@baz9910 Ok, So Shinra would probably be a better choice good to know.
@animanco68336 ай бұрын
Honestly the only power system I think it's mid is the one from Shaman king. None can become stronger unless they die and revive or reincarnate, which is very inconvenient.
@baz99106 ай бұрын
I dont see sabo fighting blackbeard properly cause the revs have their goals on the god knights gorosei and now imu. Sabo wouldnt do an ace and potentially fumble the main mission for some quick revenge