We Solved Our TV Upscaling Test (TV Test Bench 1.11)

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RTINGS com R&D

RTINGS com R&D

Күн бұрын

We’ve designed a new test as part of our TV test bench, one that allows us to assess upscaling and sharpness image processing in a much more helpful way than originally. Instead of every TV getting a score of 8.0 for upscaling a 480p image, like a lot of you pointed out over the years, we now have scores for upscaling that actually reflect the image quality and performance. At the moment, we've updated 24 TVs, but we have another 49 planned.
In this video, we will walk you through this new test, how we created it, and look at our results so far and see which model and brands are better than the others. You can also compare the results yourself and make your own judgement by looking at the photos we took on our website!
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:58 - Why We're Changing Our Test
1:54 - How Does This Test Help You?
3:01 - How The Test Works
5:05 - Results
10:39 - Other Important Testbench Changes
11:32 - Conclusion
Check out the full changelog here! www.rtings.com/tv/tests/chang...
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@alifmohammadmagdy
@alifmohammadmagdy 11 ай бұрын
She's an excellent presenter. That burn-in video and this really changed the channel
@cdel4391
@cdel4391 11 ай бұрын
lol simp
@gatsnguts
@gatsnguts 11 ай бұрын
It's awesome you guys listen to feedback and to see you adapt and evolve!
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! We really take what our users have to say seriously, we wouldn't even be here without you!
@hano5277
@hano5277 11 ай бұрын
If only they could review a TV quicker than 3 months later. They added too much new stuff to the test benches causing reviews to be delayed.
@Jb0i4724
@Jb0i4724 10 ай бұрын
They listen to Vincent roasting them and then they bow like cowards and change the scores around.
@SenorSchnitz
@SenorSchnitz 11 ай бұрын
Also: the 2019 Nvidia shield TV was THE top dog with it's AI Upscaling. You should test this box as a reference - so we know if we still should use it or if TVs are better at upscaling now.
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
We notice a few of your comments and we appreciate the feedback! I made sure to pass this along to our R&D team to consider as we look on to expand on these sorts of topics!
@reinulf656
@reinulf656 5 ай бұрын
I know nothing about this stuff 😅 but I'd watch a video about this!!
@modernbassheads5051
@modernbassheads5051 3 ай бұрын
@@reinulf656basically you want the tv that is the best at upscaling. Upscaling = turning bad image into good image. Expensive Sony TV’s do it best. So does Nvidia shield which is cheap and can be used with any tv
@wraithwrecker_
@wraithwrecker_ 11 ай бұрын
Great stuff, keep up the incredible work! Abby is a very skilled presenter too!
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, and we agree!
@Gamingwithgleez
@Gamingwithgleez Күн бұрын
This is great. I actually was watching DVDs on my CRT that I use for retro gaming and decided on a whim to throw one on my Sony x900h. I was shocked at how well it upscaled the image. In some ways it looks better than some streamed 1080 content. Less banding, less pixelation on movement and just smoother overall. Where it is hurt is text and with shots that are further away or background images. Overall it is very watchable though. I am glad you are covering this in more detail. Very informative.
@Pib31995
@Pib31995 11 ай бұрын
Glad to see Spears and Munsil being used. They have a new disc with some good stuff on there. Also, this video feels very similar to a Dygma Labs video. Sam is looking fresh too.
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
Sam is always looking fresh 🔥
@kamesna6641
@kamesna6641 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this updated upscaling process. Currently browsing for a TV and Upscaling is high on my list.
@joeynessily
@joeynessily 11 ай бұрын
Nice. It would be interesting to benchmark the TVs on the upscaling against an Apple TV, nvidia shield or PC/hardware scaler… you’d hope they are better?
@KopfdesRiesen
@KopfdesRiesen 11 ай бұрын
Really good question!!
@LutraLovegood
@LutraLovegood 11 ай бұрын
I don't know about the software but a PC can certainly have much more power to run that upscaler.
@alexatkin
@alexatkin 11 ай бұрын
ShieldTV to my eyes is night/day better than my LG C1 internal upscaler. Problem is, it has a habit of causing frame pacing issues so I stopped using it as much.
@frommatorav1
@frommatorav1 11 ай бұрын
​@alexatkin does the LG C1 upscale automatically or is there a setting you're using? Just curious because I have that TV but I don't know if it's enabled.
@KopfdesRiesen
@KopfdesRiesen 11 ай бұрын
@@frommatorav1 Yes it automatically upscales if the resolution the source is sending is not the native 4k
@camarykaren
@camarykaren 11 ай бұрын
I love this new way of doing things and the "new" presenter . I hope to see more of her cause she comes across excellent. Good job and great channel.
@robertlawrence9000
@robertlawrence9000 11 ай бұрын
Wow! Wonderful! Great plans for reviews! I would however still like to know how well the TVs do in the black crush test but of course the blooming test is important too. Starfield test is really a great way to see how well blooming control is. Fine details in dark scenes are important too. Thanks for all of your hard work!
@wking8
@wking8 11 ай бұрын
I bought the Sony A80J years ago and a big reason was for the upscaling. I own a lot of DVDs still and they look fantastic on the TV
@niktorifio
@niktorifio 11 ай бұрын
Do you change the reality creation settings with DVDs? Or any other settings in the tv?
@ArtVandelayOfficial
@ArtVandelayOfficial 9 ай бұрын
Me too because I watch lots of old content I've had over 10 oleds and other high end lcds and the 80J is the best Second was X950H then Q80T LG worst
@wking8
@wking8 9 ай бұрын
@@niktorifio I think I changed it to 1 but can't recall. Out of the box is better than most
@nacthenud
@nacthenud 11 ай бұрын
Appreciate the transparency and communication on this stuff.
@am_ma
@am_ma 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your great explanations and thank to Rtings team for responding to creat upscaling scores and new methodology to do it.
@dankeplace
@dankeplace 11 ай бұрын
I think a good combination of media player and TV make great upscaling partners. I have an nVidia shiled with an LG CS OLED and i was shocked how good DVD looked. I recently got some old movies that are only available on DVD, was blown away with PQ, so I have decided to acquire my other collectables on DVD, not dismissing the format due to the upscaling capabilities I have now. It is a blessing in disguise when understood properly.
@godminnette2
@godminnette2 11 ай бұрын
Love seeing the methodology here. Keep up the great work!
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! It's a huge amount of work, but it's worth it in the end💪
@DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords
@DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords 11 ай бұрын
This made me feel comfort in my recent purchase of an upper-class Sony TV thank you.
@Chris-xz1ii
@Chris-xz1ii 11 ай бұрын
Me too i don't fear Sony Tax if i get what i pay for
@heretic.oryginal
@heretic.oryginal 4 ай бұрын
Jaki tv?
@KickBackMIA
@KickBackMIA 9 ай бұрын
Great content! Loving the videos
@HPMIKE55
@HPMIKE55 11 ай бұрын
Great job and thanks for helping me out! 😎👍
@s.r.46
@s.r.46 11 ай бұрын
Thats really cool, maybe it would be interesting if you mention your settings for the upscaling capabilities in your test, so we could copy them or have a direction which settings would be the best 🤔
@uninfamous
@uninfamous 11 ай бұрын
Love these methodology update videos!
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it! There will be more coming, so stay tuned!
@kevinstarlike
@kevinstarlike 11 ай бұрын
If you read everything then I'd like to say that you all do a phenomenal job seeing the methodology is fascinating and the presentation is excellent!
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this comment! Super happy you enjoyed the video and seeing a bit into our methodology. Stay tuned for more in the future!
@pete7674
@pete7674 7 ай бұрын
Most informative, thanks
@shuye5004
@shuye5004 11 ай бұрын
Great explanation video. Now I see why a bunch of previous gen Sony TVs got their rtings scores bumped up.
@irvingporter4925
@irvingporter4925 11 ай бұрын
Sweet I would love to see ya do tests LG tvs and compare the ips panel to the VA panel of the same model I believe that would be very beneficial to us that have the VA panel version thank you guys for everything you do it's really appreciated
@WickedRibbon
@WickedRibbon 11 ай бұрын
Great job on the new testing method, and on your explanation. It was clear and engaging throughout!
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, happy to hear that! 🎉
@monky91
@monky91 11 ай бұрын
This is just massive amount of effort!
@1Aquadon
@1Aquadon 11 ай бұрын
Thanks RTings! I'd like to see ratings involving these Televison Panel Metrics added to your reviews 1) ability to change aspect ratio during playback of 1) dvd 2) blu ray 3) 4K BluRay 4) streaming content 5) OTA TV 2) Posturization/Color Banding in varying levels of content 1) 480p 2) 720p 3) 1080p 4) 4K 5) low bit rate (such as Netflix /Hulu) and the ability to minimize it. 3) Name Initial Firmware # ... & Retest and name Firmware # if major changes are made good or bad = ( Samsung gimping S95B after initial reviews were stellar ) 4) QUALITY OF CUSTOMER SERVICE WHEN PROBLEMS DO ARISE! YOU MIGHT NEED TO START A FORUM/QUESTION-ANSWER SECTION IN YOUR REVIEWS FOR THIS Thanks for all you do!!
@roderickstrong9298
@roderickstrong9298 11 ай бұрын
Love to see that you guys are updating your tests. I currently have an 82" Q90R that has recently had a firmware update to add eARC, because it originally didn't have it, which I'll glad that did. Do you guys have the ability to revisit this and other 2019 models with this test?
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, we don't have older models in house anymore, so we'd be limited with the number of models we could go back and revisit. But we do list a changelog under this review, and it includes a list of all the TVs we'll be updating to our newest test bench!
@guyoninternet7015
@guyoninternet7015 11 ай бұрын
Is that Plouffe around 0:38? Great new developments from RTINGS!
@MadViking82
@MadViking82 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great content as always! Shadow detail, black crush tests would be great, because blooming test may omit some of the shadow details. ABL test would also be great for OLEDs, and it should reflect the score. Burn-in as well should have a larger impact on the score, especially if there's no warranty from the maker. Some sort of "Creator's intent" custom test against reference monitors and checking how well TVs replicate BVM-HX3110 image would be awesome. Lot of enthusiasts (people who check TV reviews!!) want to go for a natural image, and the best way to test this on a TV would be to put a reference monitor next to it and compare IQ. Vincent at HDTV Test does this, and that is why I buy TVs based on his reviews, and always been very happy with what I've gotten. Rtings is a 2ndary site for me, used to be number one, but still provides good info generally. I very much like the burn-in test content, that is extremely valuable and made me not go for A95K and instead to X95K (for which you upgraded the review as well, albeit it should still score higher than C2 for example as the aggressive ABL and burn-in are at the very least as bad deficit as blooming is on X95K.)
@1Aquadon
@1Aquadon 11 ай бұрын
HERE HERE MadViking!! Agreed!
@brunogm
@brunogm 11 ай бұрын
It's SOO important since most games come with black level raised.
@paulbrien9902
@paulbrien9902 11 ай бұрын
At last! Upscaling is crucial for film enthusiasts & people who like to watch older movies.
@Tottorul
@Tottorul 6 ай бұрын
great content as always. this is very much overlooked, whats the purpose of a large TV if you have poor upscaling, need a secondary unit for that then
@JohnMuz1
@JohnMuz1 11 ай бұрын
Its All Good. Thanks.
@bowi1332
@bowi1332 11 ай бұрын
Awesome! I commented about that when subscribing to the premium tier.
@chaitanyaobhan5774
@chaitanyaobhan5774 10 ай бұрын
FINNALY A GOOD BENCHMARK FOR TVS!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU FOR THIS........
@SenorSchnitz
@SenorSchnitz 11 ай бұрын
You should provide different scores for 480p, 720p and 1080p. I for instance don't care about 480p - but want the best TV for upscaling my 1080p streaming content. A DVD collector would be mostly interested in 480p performance. And so on. Or are all TV equally good / bad with all resolutions?
@modernbassheads5051
@modernbassheads5051 3 ай бұрын
The Sony should still perform the best from 1080p to 4K but I see where you’re coming from. You wanna know if the Hisense that costs 80% less can do the job just as well
@fausto412
@fausto412 11 ай бұрын
She did great. New follower here and she did hreat on this video.
@RedLeo-pf9yo
@RedLeo-pf9yo 7 ай бұрын
About damn time !!!!
@TheRealJohnHooper
@TheRealJohnHooper 11 ай бұрын
Impressive!
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Zorastegard
@Zorastegard 8 ай бұрын
Congrats for ure start in KZbin 😃👍🏼🍻 About your upscaling tests: I think 480p is not up to date. More realistic are 720p 🤝🏼 480p is only necessary for really old non 16:9 Serials or Films. When streaming from Disney or so the older films or serials are already upscale! Also when u have older stuff on ure home server, they are already upscale when transcode. So there are really a small use case under 1% for that. When u rate on 480p the tv manufacture will improve Ai on there TVs that cost us more when buying this TVs. Going with 480p don’t show the real daily use case and are not representative in my opinion. 🙌🏼
@irreplaceableboyyy
@irreplaceableboyyy 11 ай бұрын
Hello thank you for your videos and Tests... As gamers we need more understanding of HGIG and HDR calibration as it changes from a tv to anodher, adding a test of HGIG and DTM for games and recommandations at which value we must calibrate our consoles and TVs wil be a great thing since there are so many TV as Sony Models, TCL... still don't have HGIG so we are always wondreing how we should calibrate with tone mapping... thank you again and i hope we well see more details about those things in yours future tests...
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing, we’ll pass this along to the rest of the R&D team for additional consideration!
@kajerlou
@kajerlou 11 ай бұрын
I would like to see how external upscalers comparatively perform such as with the Nvidia shield.
@bb2status
@bb2status 11 ай бұрын
Well without a doubt now Sony TVs have the best upscaling. This test doesn't even include Reality Creation which honestly works amazing.
@salesfocus6270
@salesfocus6270 11 ай бұрын
Agreed they need to give this some thought
@anilkumawat4121
@anilkumawat4121 8 ай бұрын
You are life saver
@guillaumeSONY
@guillaumeSONY 11 ай бұрын
Nice to see a category that will suit to Sony tvs
@stug77
@stug77 11 ай бұрын
Being able to filter by 4k without chroma subsampling on your website is greatly appreciated!
@norbvlo
@norbvlo 9 ай бұрын
You could do a test for the best anti-reflective coating. Generally, most reviewers pay little attention to this topic. It's a pity because what's the point of me having super black if everything is visible in it like in a mirror. I know that the winner will be The Frame from Samsung, but it would be nice to see such a comparison of other manufacturers.
@lordmxm
@lordmxm 5 ай бұрын
Great study! By any chance, do you have any Intel for the Samsung QN90C?
@arnasbybartas305
@arnasbybartas305 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your hard work! It would be cool if u list Philips tv too.
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
We understand where you're coming from for sure. Part of the limitation is that we current focus on the US market, where availability is an issue. It could be something we consider in the future as we expand our scope though!
@Swenser
@Swenser 11 ай бұрын
When buying tv. Take a usb with sample videos of low res. And see on your chosen tvmodel options. Your eyes dont lie. Easy and precise for your own senses. My test back many years ago showed sharp Aquous was the best in store at upscaling. Dont buy. Tv without seeing it in person and checking the speed and res. And feature quality. Buying on reviews is a mistake you may regret.
@BrianThomas
@BrianThomas 11 ай бұрын
Ya'll have a really cool business model. Which units in your testing are using an NPU for image upscaling?
@mattsanchez4893
@mattsanchez4893 11 ай бұрын
I bought a TCL series 6 based on your review, it's an amazing television fo rthe price, but I also knew from your review that it didn't upscale 480p content well and it doesn't, but I can live with that flaw.
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
That's great! Our whole motto is to help you find the best product for what YOU need. Glad to hear you're enjoying that TV! 😄
@michaelwyckoff7593
@michaelwyckoff7593 11 ай бұрын
Ha ha some tv shows downscale from 720p to 480 . That's crazy.
@Jb0i4724
@Jb0i4724 11 ай бұрын
I thought lg processing “caught up” this year. Oh wait. I heard that last year too 😂🤣
@Chris-xz1ii
@Chris-xz1ii 11 ай бұрын
😂😂@keepitclassytech.......Just when LG catches up with X1 ultimate, Sony releases cognitive XR....LG is good in line comparisons but next to Sony, a debate arises.
@Jb0i4724
@Jb0i4724 11 ай бұрын
@@Chris-xz1ii lg g3 scored 7.5 for upscaling/processing on rtings. That’s lower than hisense lol. Sony and samsung have better processing scores by a landslide, especially Sony. All you hear from lg fanboys every year is “lg processing caught up”. Been hearing this since the c8, yet it’s been proven that lg upscaling is lacking.
@lewisevander
@lewisevander 11 ай бұрын
​​@@Jb0i4724hey didn't test it with upscaling and sharpness maxed out which significantly improves the upscaling. I was watching friends on Netflix the other day. The first season from around 1994 and it looks 720p.
@ronaldclermont4888
@ronaldclermont4888 11 ай бұрын
I enjoy these videos! Question: You gave the Samsung S95C a slightly better upscaling score than the LG C3. Yet, in the S95C review when comparing it to the LG C3 you wrote: "The LG does have better low-resolution upscaling, so it will do a better job with low-resolution content or streaming content at low bitrates." Am I missing something? Thanks!
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
The issue here is that they are on different test benches. This part of the reason why we strived to improve the test. In this case, they aren't comparable and the text isn't accurate. We'll do our best to fix this ASAP!
@Darkimmort4l
@Darkimmort4l 11 ай бұрын
The LG upscaling switches between favouring blur and favouring sharpness based on content detection. From what I can see, static images or anything filmed on a quality lens/camera with minimal compression artifacts takes the blurry algorithm, while anything else alternates between the two. You can see it clearly switching if you set subtitles to grey text with black outline and watch mixed content - sometimes the subtitles will have ringing artifacts and sometimes not
@Darkimmort4l
@Darkimmort4l 11 ай бұрын
There is also a 3rd algorithm for RGB input in PC mode which is much more simplistic and behaves like a monitor scaler
@-slim-3705
@-slim-3705 6 ай бұрын
I would love to see how built in up scaling compares to the up scaling done by something like the nvidia shield. Is the shield better at it or the TV processor? Do i get a lower end TV model with a shield or do I get a high end TV without a shield? (I already own a shield but have a low end 4k tv, always wondered this)
@3d-illusions
@3d-illusions 10 ай бұрын
I wonder though, if the 8k is producing as good as an image as the 4K then presumably it’s actually doing a much better job of upscaling as it’s creating 4 times as many new pixels. Or is it upscaling the same amount and assigning 4 pixels one value instead of 4 unique values?
@danielexinvil
@danielexinvil 11 ай бұрын
The Samsung portion is so true because when I used to work at Best Buy in home theater our Samsung rep used to complain that how was he supposed to upsell someone to higher model if all the sets looked the same lmao😂
@interstat2222
@interstat2222 11 ай бұрын
All Samsungs use their in-house chip called Dnie (or whatever it’s called now), so it makes sense that they look identical. Other brands use MediaTek or Taiwanese chips. Sony adds its own chip to the MediaTek chip.
@2CiU
@2CiU 8 ай бұрын
Hi your tests are amazing, great job :) . It would be nice to see Philips TV's in the tests, because I like the ambilight feature. But as far as I know Philips Tv's are not sold in Canada or USA -.-
@ymi_yugy3133
@ymi_yugy3133 8 ай бұрын
How does the quality of internal TV upscales compare to the ML based upscaling found in Nvidia shield, or Nvidia graphics cards?
@stellargreg4481
@stellargreg4481 6 ай бұрын
Have you done any comparison on letting TV upscale vs AV receiver upscale? I have a LG C1 and a Denon AVR-X3700h and I keep going back and forth but can't decide. Your input and pro analysis would be much appreciated.
@lixnix2018
@lixnix2018 8 ай бұрын
Question how are the lg oleds c3 compared to the c2
@garybarham3992
@garybarham3992 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic ”Ratings”
@FlipperWolf
@FlipperWolf 11 ай бұрын
Could it be possible to rate the upscalling performances of the nvidia shield with this same new method to see if we should use nvidia's upscalling or the TV's upscalling depending on the result? 🤔 I always wondered which was better at upscaling a source between my shield and my LG CX but without a side by side comparison it's hard to tell
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
It’s definitely something our R&D team will consider moving forward! Thanks for the feedback/question!
@FlipperWolf
@FlipperWolf 11 ай бұрын
@@RTINGScomRD awesome! I'll keep an eye here then :p
@zacharylevin5999
@zacharylevin5999 11 ай бұрын
How would this work when using a cable box like xfinity as example?
@ericmatthews8497
@ericmatthews8497 11 ай бұрын
This can be such a complex issue for consumers. My Sony UltraHD/Bluray player upscales... And my Sony STR AZ1000ES receiver upscales.. And my Sony X90K TV upscales... Clearly they all aren't upscaling at the same time. If one of them upscales to 4K, then the rest downstream should not do any upscaling .. am I right? But which is the best at upscaling? Is it the TV? With its Bravia processor? They are all Sony so it may not make a difference. But I wonder...
@joywonderful5804
@joywonderful5804 11 ай бұрын
I'd like to see the Blackcrush entry added back in. More detailed motion interpolation performance would be nice.
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
Noted, we appreciate the feedback. We always keep user feedback in mind when working on updates to our testing, so we’ll keep this in mind. Thank you!
@gaav87
@gaav87 11 ай бұрын
Wonder how does it work with GPU scaling or integer scaling when connected to a PC?
@meowmixes98
@meowmixes98 11 ай бұрын
I recently took back a TCL Q7 because of its issues with scaling. It looked great half of the time with cable TV. But it would aggressively smooth certain images until they looked like water paintings. Coming from a Sony 900f this was untolerable. I can't stand aggressive smoothing and macroblocking. I personally feel as if scaling differences are being understated and that reviewers overlook how important it is.
@deanwilliams433
@deanwilliams433 11 ай бұрын
really depends on the content you watch. I haven't watched cable content in 15 years so the issue you have I don't. It's why every reviewer when asked what TV to recommend says the same thing "What is the primary content and source you are watching?"
@CRJ08
@CRJ08 11 ай бұрын
Question, whren you test TVs, do you set the screen ratio at 16:9 or 1:1 or dot by dot, something like that, 16:9 crops some image.
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
Hi there, When we test TVs in general, they are going to default to a 16:9 aspect ratio. If we you are referring to our upscaling test this is a little more complicated. We send a 720x480 resolution to the TV via windows PC and play a video on MPC-HC player (the idea is to mimic DVD playback here). Using the TVs scaling/aspect ratio settings we then make sure the desktop is filling the most screen space without excessive cropping or overscan. Within the player we set the aspect ratio to assume square pixels. This is because windows works in square pixels (1:1) so most video players are designed to rectify non square pixels so you can enjoy DVDs and similar content on your laptop/monitor. However, the DVD players do not for historical reasons and modern TVs do this to keep backwards compatibility. So, if we let the PC correct the pixels then the TV applies the same correction twice and the image will not be displayed properly.
@PcGamingForFun
@PcGamingForFun 11 ай бұрын
awesome
@ikarosav
@ikarosav 11 ай бұрын
Would love to see a comparison on motion smoothing/soap opera effect, it's quite useful for playing Zelda!
@deanwilliams433
@deanwilliams433 11 ай бұрын
curious what makes it useful?
@ikarosav
@ikarosav 11 ай бұрын
@@deanwilliams433 short version: eye fatigue due to judder. long version: it’s a game with lots of orbiting a camera around a character with a far away backdrop behind it, and spinning at high speeds means for each frame at 30fps the environment moves a great distance, and as your eyes try panning smoothly across that scene to follow objects they all become a motion blurred smear due to persistence, enabling the soap opera effect yields a frame of latency, and some occasional edge artifacts, but all the motion blur is gone if the implementation is good, my tv does 120hz mothion smoothing with bfi at 240hz which results in effectively an 8x increase in clarity, that’s something i like to do to avoid eye fatigue when playing for many hours at a time. upscaling can also reduce eye fatigue if done right as the eyes can focus on a clear image, whereas if you’re looking at a blurry image your eyes will try to shift the focal plane into focus to compensate but fail to rest at one
@deanwilliams433
@deanwilliams433 11 ай бұрын
Not having a black crush test seems to favor OLED as that is one of the few tests it can have issues and it will score high on the blooming.
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
There was some issues with our test. For example the Sony OLEDs were being overly penalized when looking at the screen directly. This means that our test was not aligned with normal content. We are not closing the door forever as there is a lot of impact in these near blacks/shadow details that are important to users. What it means is that we have much more to understand and master before we can design a test to properly test this. We also need to think how this is impactful in both SDR and HDR content.
@deanwilliams433
@deanwilliams433 11 ай бұрын
@@RTINGScomRD I appreciate the reply and the transparency.
@pankil82
@pankil82 3 ай бұрын
this is helpful but what should I really expect when I stream Monk from Netflix on 65" or larger TV ?
@interstat2222
@interstat2222 11 ай бұрын
Will you be looking at Sharp now that they’re back under part Japanese (with part Taiwanese) ownership when they release models in your market? In Europe/UK use MediaTek/Mstar processors and I was surprised at how good VHS looked on them (I collect cult horror movies on VHS).
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
It isn’t something we have any immediate plans to start doing, but we’re open to buying and testing most products as long as they’re available for purchase in the US and there’s enough user interest!
@jeffmaynard6110
@jeffmaynard6110 11 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to see Samsung QN900C results
@MorganaRavenheart
@MorganaRavenheart 8 ай бұрын
Are you guys ever going to review projectors? I actually don't have any TV sets atm, since I gave one to my mom, and the other had an accident, lol. Currently I do have two Panasonic 1080p laser projectors, a Panasonic 720p laser projector, and an Epson 1080p UB lamp based projector. 😅
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 8 ай бұрын
It isn’t something we have any immediate plans to do, but it’s something users have been asking about for a while. We’re definitely open to it, we just want to make sure we can do it in a good way first!
@funcuriosity8739
@funcuriosity8739 3 ай бұрын
I have Samsung 55 s95c , how can I test upscaling if the upscaling it automatic ? I was chat with support Samsung and he say that upscaling work also with band in bottom and top , but in rtings say thay work when the screen are stretch in full screen? So I ask you , how can I test the upscaling in that tv where can I see the difference in upscaling off and on ? In that tv is true or not that upscaling work also if the image are not stretch in full screen ?
@hellterminator
@hellterminator 11 ай бұрын
Hi, any news on the QD-OLED monitors? If I recall correctly, the TVs started showing burn-in after 2 months and it's now been 3 months since you added the monitors.
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results any updates we have at the moment can be found in this article!
@hellterminator
@hellterminator 11 ай бұрын
@@RTINGScomRD Thanks. Looks like there is some burn-in after ~1100 hours. I'm looking forward to see if the panel refresh at 1500 hours fixes it.
@roary4092
@roary4092 11 ай бұрын
Nice improvements but I hope more settings are being considered other than just sharpness. Example: Overscan. Some TVs don't have this option at all but this has a significant impact.
@mohammedgawish3546
@mohammedgawish3546 16 күн бұрын
Watching this video in 144p thanks for reviewing
@yod1213
@yod1213 11 ай бұрын
Whats the best place to bombard LG with requests to update and improve their upscaling and heck motion clarity and judder all the way back to their 2000 CX tv! Is it Facebook, twitter, reddit, LG themselves or elsewhere?
@Ben-fq1lj
@Ben-fq1lj 11 ай бұрын
Please do one on the LG OLEDs. I was shocked when I saw my roommate's C1, which is much more expensive and supposedly better than my parent's samsung ru7100, had worse upscaling on 1080p blu-rays. Please someone do a test to show how an LG OLED compares to a sony or samsung tv with good upscaling.
@trixr4kids693
@trixr4kids693 11 ай бұрын
Now do a video explaining the low quality content smoothing benchmark.
@salesfocus6270
@salesfocus6270 11 ай бұрын
Finally. A website that properly tests upscaling. Sony will benefit from this massively. They have far more detail in standard images. Id love to see a netflix test for example, because the bit rate in Netflix for example will verify greately so how does the upscaling benefit this for example?
@user-kx7cr4gt1j
@user-kx7cr4gt1j 3 ай бұрын
When testing upscaling, is the original 4K-yacht image- image resized to 480p by changing PC resolution? or software?
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 3 ай бұрын
Hello and thanks for the question! The yacht image we use has been down-ressed to 480p, and we also set the PC resolution to 480p. This gives us the most accurate test results since both the content and the output resolution is in 480p. I hope that helps.
@tahsin28
@tahsin28 5 ай бұрын
PLEASE: What TV does the best upscaling in game mode from 720p hdmi signal. I'm catching up on modern classic PS3-era games. My LG C2 does absolutely no upscaling in game mode!
@SodaGumX
@SodaGumX 11 ай бұрын
need a test for how tvs upscale old video game consoles in 480p in 4:3 with the input lag 720p with the input lag. and if the 4:3 is displayed correct
@andrearubinacci2212
@andrearubinacci2212 6 ай бұрын
Which settings should i change on my LG C3 to improve the upscaling?
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 6 ай бұрын
Our experts are happy to answer your questions via our forums on our website! www.rtings.com/forums
@MrRaitzi
@MrRaitzi 11 ай бұрын
If you have gray images static , you should be able to calculate mathematically the difference. How big is the each pixel error on color map. Gray images so calibration differences don't mess it.
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing, we’ll pass this along to the rest of the R&D team for additional consideration!
@reddcube
@reddcube 6 ай бұрын
I'm convinced that native 8K content and upscaled 4K content are virtually indistinguishable.
@Saturn2888
@Saturn2888 11 ай бұрын
Is there a 3rd party upscaler box that you'd recommend other than an $18K MadVR Envy? What about the NVIDIA SHIELD? It has 3 upscaling modes. And the LG C2 has other upscaling modes too. There's the AI-assisted one and the regular upscaler.
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, we don’t have enough data from our own tests regarding upscalers to make a specific recommendation, though the Nvidia Shield is definitely one that we know a lot of our users use that won’t necessarily break the bank!
@Saturn2888
@Saturn2888 11 ай бұрын
@@RTINGScomRD I have a SHIELD and don't like the upscaler AI upscaler. It over-sharpens.
@marrow94
@marrow94 11 ай бұрын
Abby you’re a fun host, but we all gotta say “shoutout to Adam”! 😁
@whuzzzup
@whuzzzup 10 ай бұрын
How is upscaling in game mode? I have no intention to use a TV to watch TV or netflix or anything, I just need it as a PC monitor. Since my PC won't run games in 4K, I will play them on 1080, which is enough for me (done that for a decade by now on my current TV). Do those upscale features kick in while in gaming mode? I assume they increase input lag a lot? I'd prefer to see only 1080 tests but it seems our website does not want to show me those.
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 10 ай бұрын
All TVs upscale automatically; it's not a 'feature', it's just what they need to do to take a lower resolution signal and scale it to fit their 4k native panel. Game Mode disables every processing feature that is likely to increase input lag, although sometimes you can enable some that will add lag, as with Samsung's Game Motion Plus. Some TVs do have upscaling specific features, such as LG's Super Resolution, that are still available in Game Mode, but these features don't tend to noticeably impact input lag, and you can disable them. One thing that has been shown to make input lag worse however is when you're asking the TV to upscale a lower resolution that isn't in an 16:9 format, such as when gaming in 4:3 with retro games. But otherwise, 1080p upscaling tends to give the same input lag numbers as native 4k. Hope this helps!
@whuzzzup
@whuzzzup 10 ай бұрын
@@RTINGScomRD Thank you for your reply. So the picture/verdict regarding upscaling I see on your reviews is what I can expect even in game mode.
@gohan9625
@gohan9625 11 ай бұрын
The A95L is my next tv.
@smaganas
@smaganas 6 ай бұрын
Do you guys have a test for small business across the country that require a large screen tv in a bright restaurant for sports. Need low reflective screen and fast response time for sports. Black level not really a concern and no movie watching.
@joseecoutinho8844
@joseecoutinho8844 9 ай бұрын
How is the upscaling of the LG QNED80, 2023 model, which claims to have a super upscaling with the new gen 6 processor?
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 9 ай бұрын
We haven’t started testing this TV yet, so we can’t say. But you can track the status of the review/results here: www.rtings.com/discussions/zFYHLi_XQfFQ3rKb/review-updates-lg-qned80-2023
@BhobsonKatie
@BhobsonKatie 11 ай бұрын
What oled tv would you recommend for gaming and 4K movies Samsung or LG?
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 11 ай бұрын
For personalized buying advice, reach out to our experts via our insider forums! www.rtings.com/forums/insider-advice
@anilkumawat4121
@anilkumawat4121 8 ай бұрын
New video please!! Comparing the qned qled and full array
@RTINGScomRD
@RTINGScomRD 8 ай бұрын
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