We Spent $10,000 on Two Distinct Sportbikes! Kawasaki Ninja ZX-4RR vs Suzuki GSX-8R | On Two Wheels

[@kaylep6135]

Great to see On Two Wheels soldiering on - love the variety across channels

[@DumbAccordionTricks]

It's important to note the zx4r in North America is detuned to 56hp for emissions, in Europe it makes up to 79hp. This would make the performance a lot closer to the gsx8r. American zx4r can be modified to get the full potential.

[@glsracer]

And it should have been for this test. No one will buy one of these and leave it stock.

[@mloclam6917]

Torque and displacement rule

[@JohnSpartan-117]

Good thing we can ECU flash that nonsense and get the most of our bikes. 🤘🏻

[@DarkExternalHeart]

Also a the 4 pot is actually making a lot of emissions just by being a 4 pot, so one of the thing they use to reduce the emissions is actually a restrictive exhaust. Most bike increase their hp by a lot with full exhaust kit, but moreso on this bike.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

@@mloclam6917 Torque does not matter in a sport bike. Not even a little bit.

[@Armputator]

as a european with my 80hp zx-4rr i gotta say i love it! the inline 4 is insanely fun and screamy

[@therealfakecaptain7978]

The sound of a screaming inline 4 is such a beauty ❤

[@nick4506]

the computer starts closeing our throttle at 10k. yall yap about euro 5 but our noise regulations are knee caping bikes more.

[@azenyr]

@@nick4506 yes its kinda funny that people constantly mock Euro emission rules but then suddently the US slaps the bikes with a 500x worse regulation that literally kills all of the fun of the bikes. I hope Euro regulations never go that far

[@pitchforkpeasant6219]

@@nick4506same thing happened in 1971. The LS6 Chevelle in 1970 had 450 hp. 70 was the biggest year in horsepower. Then the epa came out with emission rules that just coincidentally (not) killed horsepower. Same 💩 different year. Insurance companies have been the biggest in politicians campaign contributions and lobby money

[@nick4506]

@@pitchforkpeasant6219 what getting our bikes now is noise regulation. epa emission rules are reely lax compared to euro. what was reely holding back early 70s cars was leaded gas. cant use a catlylitic converter with leaded gas. all they had was just goofy air injection and a whole bunch of ideas that didn't work. any emissions regulation hurt power a ton. onec leaded gas was out and they discovered cats and the oil crisis was over power came back. i dont know if you've seen smog but yea emissions regulations are necessary. but the goofy testing procedure they use for noise regulations is crazy.

[@antoniovelez9431]

Just bought my first motorcycle. 24’ GSX-8R sword silver/red wheels. Im 6’2” 277 lbs. 56 years old and i love it.

[@williamelliott1750]

Got mine in Blue, 59yrs, 5'9, 165lbs. GREAT BIKE! Ride safe Brother!

[@spotthedogg]

Buy some springs that support your 277lbs properly, thank me later

[@waylontagarro3221]

​@@williamelliott17500:11

[@blandrooker6541]

Oh no. I couldn't do it, just from the ergonomic standpoint. I'm the same height, weigh 30 pounds less but my knees and back are 7 years older, so I went with a bike with a more stretched out wheelbase and ergonomics, got the GSXS1000GT+, enjoying the 150 HP. Probably my last 2 wheeler after 50 years of riding. Just stay safe.

[@Powermad-bu4em]

Got mine in yellow. 50 yrs old, 6'5" 230 pounds and I absolutely love my bike.

[@williamwintemberg]

This is a nice video. Without getting lost in the technology built into the bikes, the differences between the two were clearly pointed out from a riders standpoint. One bike fit one rider, the other bike fit that rider. Ride what you like! Two sweet rides!

[@BenButler50]

4:28 “But it might make your bike illegal” …… And? 😂

[@danmanthe9335]

CYA

[@JohnSpartan-117]

Yeah who cares. It’s not like some cop can “sense” that your bike is ecu flashed

[@siraff4461]

Only in places like commifornia anyway. If they can't stop people looting on a daily they don't need to be looking at people's bikes.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

@@siraff4461 Just tell the cop the bike is stolen 😁

[@siraff4461]

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 They would probably fill the tank for you and ask if you need anything else.

[@joek81981]

My coworkers and I all bought zx4rr's. As soon as the first one got the ECU updated, the other four all followed suit immediately. If you were that close on an untuned ECU, you'd beat him on mine. Tires and a tune is transformative to the bike.

[@hexagonosaurus5848]

Triggered much

[@LordHolley]

It would be interesting if both bikes got flashed and then see which one benefited the most.

[@ZinoAmare]

Can flash and use the same tires on the Suzuki, I be interested in that, because what does the Suzuki Rider stop from doing the same.

[@Talishar]

@@LordHolley The difference in potential between the two is massive. You'd be lucky to get another 8hp with a full exhaust and high flow intake/tune with the 8R which there are ZX-4RRs out there with a full exhaust, intake and tune getting around 90hp to the crank or 81hp to the wheel. The 8R is closer to traditional tuning for emissions which doesn't gain nearly as much as the ZX which really wakes up when it gets back 4.5K RPM of its rev range back. You don't even have to tune the ZX per se, just turn off the fuel limiting at 11.5K and it explodes to life nearly doubling its power.

[@SWTrailsAndWheels]

Without the reflash that EVERY ZX4RR owner will do, this comparison is irrelevant. But, that was definitely the BEST Cardo Ad ever. :)

[@tammyforbes2101]

You really think 8R riders ain’t also gonna do power mods to! That’s why you go stock for stock! Cause once you start modding it’s a hole other game!

[@pmwaffle9348]

​@tammyforbes2101 they might but the horsepower won't double + the flash is solely to fix the gimped mapping where 10k-redline is completely flat

[@SWTrailsAndWheels]

@@tammyforbes2101 Not the same thing. Stock 4RR in Europe and Asia equals US bike with flash. The 4RR is limited for noise regs in the U.S.

[@unknownname6519]

​@@tammyforbes2101Stock 4r ist about 75hp in Europe.. You got the downgrade

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

​@@tammyforbes2101 8R also detuned. Makes over 70whp from 7500 to redline. They def tuned like that to feel smooth verse peak power. And not to beat think GSX-R750

[@RussRyan7713]

After coming back to riding after 30 years (last bike was a TZR250) I wanted a bigger bike but also understood I am new again and wanted something that I could grow into but not be to brutal. Also I have a 28" inseam so lower bike needed. I did consider the ZX4RR (in UK its more powerful) but decided on a 24 CBR650R (red of course). Which I dont think is out in the US yet. Happy with my choice, I wanted an inline 4 as closer to my old 2 stroke style, less power down low and then takes off :). So far so good. Enjoying the bike and at 94hp its fun when you wind it up. Again its so nice to have all types of sport bikes now to suite everyones tastes in style and engine. Good all round review.

[@KpopNiDontStop]

Wish they got a zx4rr with the ecu flashed.

[@hexagonosaurus5848]

Its still dog slow under 8k lol 😂

[@Indarow]

Especially considering Euro emissions standards are more stringent than US standards.

[@spotthedogg]

The young fella did great with the big boy on the back, considering how big boy was fighting against the lean!

[@Thehelmet22]

This is a great vid, these two are a fun duo, interacting well together, and the premise of the review was excellent

[@kevinpakravan2947]

I like the premise of the video but could do with less corny semi-scripted banter and a shorter introduction to the bikes, since that was all covered months ago when they were released.

[@abdulrahmansaif2511]

Great video, you guys totally brought back the show, same feel and spirit of the old stuff, love it, can't wait to see more videos from you guys ❤

[@GuitarGuy650]

Companies wonder what is happening to the new rider market, then they go and sell beginner bikes for $10k

[@subzero-ku2wx]

Neither of these are really beginner bikes.

[@starfox_wr-45e93]

@@subzero-ku2wx you're probably talking to people who buy 1000cc's for thier 1st bike and only ever use 10% of its potential. 🤣 Waste of time

[@Pato7640]

These aren't beginner bikes. Both of these mfgs sell bikes targeted at beginners that are significantly cheaper.

[@williamwintemberg]

Yes, inflation is alive and well, even in the motorcycle world. Beginner bikes? Maybe not so much, at least for most of us.

[@shotokanbiker]

​@@williamwintemberg inflation is a beeatch! I remember the old RS125 in the 90s cost around 3k. Imagine what that would cost in today's money😮

[@counterveil0xC]

Great vid guys, loving the casual and fun format :)

[@fengrr]

You shoulda flashed the Ninja

[@leroy8944]

I'm liking the new blood. Good job guys.

[@azenyr]

Constantly talking about how "good these bikes are for beginners" while knowing these bikes are 10k is just insane

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Maybe not an absolute beginner, but good for a near beginner. Get a crappy bike for a few hundred miles then upgrade to one of these. Or in a few years when the Suzuki is used for $4,000 it will be good for beginners.

[@22Epic]

All beginners are not poor mate...

[@cottleful]

The zx4rr is not a beginner bike. Its suspension and other features make it a fantastic small displacement track bike. A beginner wouldn’t even be able to squeeze the performance out of it. Go buy a ninja 400 and shut up until you get more experience

[@azenyr]

@@cottleful true, but these reviewers always talk about how they are "great for beginners". That is exactly what I meant with my comment. These are NOT beginner bikes, especially for that price (they cost that much because they have non-beginner features)

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

@cottleful On the contrary, the ZX-4R is perfect for near beginners. It's not so fast that they'll be more focused on not dying than learning. And it has plenty of capability to grow into. A personal anecdote: I started on a Ninja 500. After 2 months, I upgraded to a Daytona 675. I learned more in 2 hours on the Daytona than I did in 2 months on the Ninja. I was not nearly good enough to use all of Daytona's capability. But the bike was good enough to allow me to more comfortably explore what I was capable of. I would never buy a new Ninja 400 unless you really like that class and want to stay there. If it's for learning, plenty of other people have already done that, just buy their used bike. True beginners should start on something cheap and used so not as much is lost when they inevitably drop it. After a very short period with the learner bike, get what you want - probably not a liter or giant bagger - but otherwise, get what you want. Something being "too good" is never a reason to tell someone else to not buy it.

[@davidbarton7463]

Enjoyed the video guys, not because I have to chose between the two bikes for my next ride, but because I already own a 1992 CBR400RR which I've had for nearly 30 years and love it and am considering trying out the GSX-8R soon to have along side my baby blade. Not sure if your getting the CBR600RR Stateside but that also is very tempting.

[@gogglespizzano6540]

It's great to see OTW back and I'm looking forward to new episodes.

[@trevb464]

Really enjoyed this video. Great banter between you guys. Was looking at exactly these two bikes here in the UK and opted for the Kawasaki a couple of weeks back. Still running in but really happy with the bike. Think I'd have been happy with either to be honest. Look forward to more content.👊

[@k3y155]

The zx4rr is definitely the quirky bike I’m gonna get because it’s a bit of a novelty with its small I-4 engine revving absurdly high. I’d pay for the flash/tune to unleash its engine. If you complain about the practicality then you don’t get it.

[@john-martin]

2 UP was funny as hell hahaha

[@DogmaticShrew]

Glad to see more On Two Wheels!

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

A cross-plane crank does not help the bike make more torque. But in specific situations, it can make it easier to manage the torque deliver, primarily in the dirt. On pavement the only real advantage is sound.

[@aza04a]

Large CC cross plane does make more torque than small cc flat plane

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

@@aza04a Yes, but that is 100% because of displacement and not at all because of the shape of the crankshaft.

[@darrellproechel7211]

Bradley, I still have your blue SV, bought it from you and you’re Dad at Willow Springs. It’s still in race form and will be back on track next year. It’s still a fun bike to ride ! Good seeing you on here ! Darrell

[@jessealcorn2912]

This is awesome

[@80sday36]

you guys need to switch bikes and give each personal impression for each bike after

[@benchaggaresmusic]

The problem with these bikes in canada is insurance for younger riders too. Im 22 years old, Ive been riding for 3 years, I have my full licence, never been pulled over or had a ticket, and most of the insurance companies I called wanted $13,000 a year for insurance! These bikes were made for younger riders and yet they cost so much to buy and insure

[@MrTekeshi]

Totalitarian state

[@kd350]

I pay $115 US each for full coverage on my FZ6, and for my Versys X 300. Being 67 and 50 years licensed helps. Both DT50's are $15 a piece!

[@courtneymcgowan9561]

You guys did my weekly weekend ride. Borrego...stop at Josies...up and down Palomar, then straight down 76 to the Strand before going back down Mission to my crib in Oside.

[@ksoulmusic]

8R is a sport bike and position is like on naked.. right..

[@yeejay6396]

Hm

[@Bagoesbudianto]

well it's still sport bike but for touring not circuit track day

[@closedcasketcustoms]

You Cali guys don't know true misery of riding in the cold till you've commuted in NYC year round lol. All jokes aside, great episode about 2 great bikes under 10k a lot of newer riders or casual riders will be considering. I've ridden the ZX4RR and the chassis is really great. The true potential of that engine shines when they're unlocked which most people will do almost immediately. Graves has a lot of really awesome parts for that platform. The GSX8R does have an amazing engine, but I was really turned off by the weight of it. Some people may not mind it but I'm a shorter rider @ 5'8" and I definitely felt it.

[@lgwappo]

For $4,100 less than the Ninja 400 ZX4RR I'd take the Ninja 500. It's also 41.9 pounds lighter.

[@hexagonosaurus5848]

Not even close 😂

[@dougmaverick3287]

Great review, brought back so many great memories of Socal. The one thing you missed is you should have both switched bikes, to see how you both liked each bike.

[@andremartino82]

please do the Suzuki GSX-8R vs Yamaha-R7, I'd like to know which is the best.. thanks

[@OCVariation]

definitely the 8r

[@dangoldach846]

270 crank; i get it that the 2nd cyl fires after 270 degrees on the crank but wouldn't the other cylinder fire only after 90 degrees? how is this better then 180 degree crank?

[@starfox_wr-45e93]

The fact that is fires so soon after is what gives it the smoothness advantage. From the short bit I read about it..

[@DogmaticShrew]

The crank goes around twice for every power stroke. So its 270-450-270-450 etc. A 180 degree crank would go 360-360-360-360.

[@starfox_wr-45e93]

@@DogmaticShrew But how is it better?

[@Expertshot777]

It is mostly a noise and vibration difference. A 270 degree crank has the same firing interval as a 90 degree V-twin like a SV650 or Ducati. To most peoples ears, the uneven firing interval of a 90 degree V-twin or 270 parallel twin sounds alot nicer than a 180 paralell twin which sounds like a lawn mower engine. 270 degree twins also do not have the awful rocking couple of a 180 degree twin (or not to the same extent) so they are generally less buzzy to ride on the highway. The reason they cost more is due to manufacturing as 270 degree twins require a twisting process during forging which is more expensive. But in terms of power and torque per cc theres is very little difference. 270 degree twins can generally be made larger due to the better balance though. Think africa twin 1100. Last difference is in torque pulses. The uneven firing interval is said to improve traction and make it easier to reach the limit. (Think yamaha cross plane vs traditional I4s. or big bang engines in motogp). However with small capacity bikes like these that can barely break traction, it is not a concern. Thanks for listening to my rant

[@starfox_wr-45e93]

@@Expertshot777 Thanks for posting it. It's not a rant, it's informative lol Cheers

[@1414Kai]

People saying that you should have flashed the ECU are missing the whole point... Both bikes got the job done. If you don't need to win races, your choice only matters to yourself. Get a bike you love, for whatver reason it might be, and you've made a great choice already.

[@TheSackless]

Flashing the ECU is to get the bike back to STANDARD, which would make it a more fair test. The fact the those bike are gimped in the us is laughable.

[@abracing199]

Great video guys. Much better than a standard comparison.

[@SrijanPaulsatya]

Aspirational, thank you! Loved it

[@khosrowtaj]

After an SV650 this 8R is my new favorite bike - awesome content and i would say 8R is way more comfortable :)

[@wrecking_havoc586]

If both bikes were flashed the GSX8R would still be a better ride for a larger person.

[@machienli4947]

Good job. Keep the good work coming.

[@cruze86]

4rr is not the direct competitor of 8r. So what’s the point? Same price?

[@Aganaden]

the title is 10k vs 10k bike

[@panchochilli11]

Good fun vid, thanks guys!

[@zack8819]

Kawasaki Z900 enters chat. But between these two bikes I would still choose the ZX-4RR.

[@ritchiethorup]

Hello Bradley Whats up ! Ritchie Thorp here Brought back memories with your comment of SV650 racing days Not sure you remember racing me . Thanks for the memories

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

This video was gold and pure awesomeness. Great entertainment thanks boys 👍 from Australia

[@Starship007]

Love how your explained engine differences

[@freemusicncm1785]

I think 8r sitting posture is more comfortable

[@jfess1911]

I have found that I enjoy shifting a lot on twisty mountain roads, so I will often prefer a lower-powered vehicle for those roads. Something about the need to shift to keep in the powerband makes it seem that I am more a part of the performance. Even though a more powerful vehicle with a larger torque band that needs less shifting will be faster, it will be less fun, at least for me. I learned this with cars. My Father had an old MG Midget with something like 65hp that required a lot of shifting on twisty roads. It FELT faster on the twisty roads than my current car (Focus ST) even though it was not.

[@Tiagotaf]

I own a Ninja 400 and I've driven a XZ4 on track. Boy oh boy that bike is AMAZING!!! It screams so high and drives like a dream. I'm buying one for sure in the future.

[@Cthooligan]

Idk why, but seeing two dudes in full race leathers two-up on track is the funniest damn thing

[@brandynborsi4748]

Vast majority of beginner riders will buy used bikes because they are affordable. For $10k you could get some damn nice used bikes…hyabusa, cbr1000rr, Ducati 1199, s1000rr, gsxr1000r, zx10r, R1, Concours 14, all for the same price or less than these new ‘squirts’. Yes I know these aren’t starters but that’s the point… Starter bikes should be $2-5k based on performance value.

[@trullmann]

Cool video for sure. Would be interesting to see the drag race results after switching Riders

[@crescendo33]

Hi admin what is the equipment used to check tyres? I really appreciate any help you can provide.

[@michaelrehn2443]

Can you unrestrict and tune both bikes and redo

[@robbieracer3294]

Yes. There's a vid on here of a guy who just got his GXr flashed and tuned...really opened it up. And a guy named Scouts out did his ninja a few months ago

[@throttlechaser541]

Really enjoying this kind of comparison content!

[@JOTG2000]

Great video guys. I almost bought an 8R, I ended up buying a CB750 Hornet. Price and fuel consumption is what was the ultimate selling point for the Hornet. I couldn't find any actual tested data for consumption on the R8, but there was plenty for the Honda. The Honda is a fun bike and it loves to rev, but I still remember the torque of the Suzuki.

[@ricecakeFTW]

"too tall" on the back of the ninja was hilarious lol 😂

[@Indarow]

Yup, you guys are nuts for the 2up lap. Even with my KLR650 on a casual neighborhood ride, I hate the feeling of a passenger on the back.

[@Lasergun74]

I’ll choose the little screamer all day every day

[@johnbellamy5005]

enjoyed this guys. I am going for the Suzuki 8 R

[@bearwolffish]

Great review, little of everything.

[@EnvyTheRealest]

I really like the GSX-8R, but the Kawasaki takes the cake with this one. Inline 4, dual front breaks with inverted and adjustable fork, what more can you ask for from a 400cc bike.

[@BS32768]

Bigger guy did not follow any of the rules of being a good passenger - maybe it was intentional for comedy, but good job smaller guy for completing the lap.

[@Villani_AV]

As a fellow 6'3 dude who eats, it's nice to get an accurate representative of my build on these bikes

[@WhiteGravey]

Everyone complaining about the prices is out of touch with reality. They are selling electric bikes for 5000 right now.

[@uhtyler]

They’re also selling 400cc bikes for 5k

[@hectorcortes7246]

Stock 4rr is defined to 56hp, the powerband is all the way up at 10k rpms, with a flash and full system you get 80hp and powerband is at 6k rpms

[@webcinnet]

Manyaksınız agalar😂 Video için teşekkürler Nihayet bu iki güzel motorun kıyas videosuna kavuştuk sayenizde❤ Zx4rr bir çok kıyasta geride kalmasına rağmen 8r ın 776cc gücüne karşın çokta güzel performans sağlıyor hemde 400cc ile. Sesinin güzelliği ise direkt cezbediyor. Güzelliğini de söylemeye gerek yok sanırım. 8r güzel motor fakat far tasarımı kötü bana göre. Ayrıca kuyruk tasarımı da kötü. Ama güzel makina videoda gördük. Aynı fiyat diliminde bu iki makinadan birini seçmek zor. Benim gönlüm geride kalmasına rağmen tasarımı, sesi ve yarış pisti performansı nedeniyle zx4rr❤dan yana.

[@TheAdmiral5741]

Awesome video guys.. the two bikes I’m literally considering… what comms system did you two use?

[@polikalo74]

What would the gsx8 have at the rear wheel when tuned? My gsxs 750 has 115 rwhp... curious to know what the twin would have...

[@a.e.neumann8949]

Hey Guys, what absolute perfect Test you ve done here. I will have to decide between those both Bikes and would choose the Suzuki in cause of the economics, because i am 54 and as a beginner dont think about race Tracks. Thanks a lot. Wish you always a safe ride! Greetings from Germany!

[@Zayn_y]

How do they stick the GoPro ? They can change the placement !

[@katerang31]

Europe gets the full power versions 59kW (79.1hp), but the USA, for instance, has a restricted 42kW (56.3hp) ZX-4RR and in Australia the power is pegged at 55kW (73.8hp).

[@JacobRamsey1979]

I know nothing about bike racing but that track surface looks horrible.. is that a typical track surface cuz I would have imagined they'd be perfect condition

[@LL-qm3sl]

So is the twin basically the same as the cp2 engine from Yamaha ?

[@SpeedDemonExpress]

What are the maintenance requirements for the 400 engine?

[@LedosGarage]

Isnt the suzuki 8r a more cc engine then the zx4rr?

[@CPUspeed]

Sweet video. 👏🏼 Loved the sv650 but not the lack of slipper clutch stock. Can you record the cardio audio and then match it to GoPro footage in post?

[@markhoyer1736]

If you clap or make an audio spike that also has a strong visual cue, it's easy to sync the audio to video footage.

[@ayowser01]

The answer is ALWAYS 4 cylinders

[@judge831]

False. The answer is 3.

[@ayowser01]

@@judge831 I do love my 675R ❤️

[@Carlisho]

@@judge831nah that shit vibes to much, 4 is smooth, 4 is fast

[@michaelcespedes9212]

2

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

@@judge831 The Striple is close to the perfect motorcycle. Just missing CC and wind protection.

[@PinotNoir_]

25:28 just close the visor enough that it cover your eyebrows but not completely cover your eyes, it'll block a lot of rain water. yes your mouth and nose will get hit by rain water, but atleast you can see a lot better. unless it's a storm then just fully closed the visor :D

[@gtodad7311]

As a previous owner of a Bandit 400.....I can say the little 4s were definitely in the U.S.

[@dnickerson82]

Ive been stuck between 2 bikes and would love to see an episode where you compare and give that honest opinion between the '24 Ninja ZX4RR 40th anniversary ABS and the '24 Aprilia Tuono 660.

[@jaqenhghar4602]

What was the track capability of both bikes? Which one could do a faster lap?????

[@brandynborsi4748]

My starter was an 08 cbr600rr for $7k. It only had 2k miles and was mint… from the dealer!

[@GearShifter925]

KAWASAKI looks MORE BEAUTIFUL than SUZUKI here. Plus point : 4 cylinders 🔥 😊👍🏻

[@shawnpenn]

Motorcycling is the journey of the soul ! 😊

[@C.arson30]

As a San Diego dirt and sport bike rider there’s so many options when it comes to riding out here

[@kidlo2050]

I demod an gsx8r at cota. I love that bike. Just 350cc higher than my bike but way stronger. I just didnt like how far the clutch engage at. My 450ss clutch engage about 1 to 2inches away from the handlebar while the gsx8r was almost all the way out.

[@acurabass14]

This video should of been Suzuki GSX-8 vs Kawasaki Ninja 650. ..Cool comparison nonetheless.👍🏽

[@Rocketboy-qg6ts]

Awesome. More of these please! 😎

[@rrbabygirrl4822]

Getting mines this morning I can't wait GSX 8R

[@HaggisPower]

Nicely done guys. Does that track require constant sweeping to stop it becoming like the surrounding desert?

[@itsshadowuser9536]

looking for a beginner bike might go with the zx4rr bc that sound is unmatched from starter bikes and sound just like in car matters to me

[@ArathiBasinFTW]

I just want the looks of the GSX-8R with the sound of an inline 4

[@GhostHammerX]

What is your mic setup? Seems like you have very little wind noise to deal with…. (I always struggle with wind noise at track speeds, even with a lav mic in my helmet.)

[@Zamby_2000]

How is the GSX-8R for a shorter person?

[@douglas7260]

I would think for street the Gsx8r and for a full on track build/bike the ZX4rr. However, not sure what class they will allow the Zx4r though.... I raced @ CMRA (Texas) a ninja 400 in the Light weight twins, 500 class, and D superstock. I raced a R7 in LWT, D superstock, D superbike. The ZX4r would not qualify for LWT or 500 class. So maybe it would race in D class? So from a racing stand point, would suck not have very many different races to do with the ZX4r. Several race guys I know with ZX4r's have had issues with the tuning to get decent power out of the bikes. Still the best bikes for new riders are a used R3 or used ninja 400.

[@robertmitchell4844]

Having a GSX8R, the biggest bang for the buck, is to change the tires to Road 6's or whatever. Then all the road feel is there and amazing grip is yielded. Worth the $400.

[@meetthakor28]

That plane in the Air at 16:05 lol

[@MattieXMoto]

What mic setup are you both using? It sounds great. That cant be the mic attached to a gopro. Thx in advance