We’ve Been Wrong About Carbs All Along - The Largest Study EVER Conducted on Carb Intake

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Thomas DeLauer

Thomas DeLauer

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@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 8 ай бұрын
Here’s my newest FREE Meal Plan (High Protein Mediterranean with some Intermittent Fasting)- thomasdelauer.com/MediterraneanFasting/ Please enjoy it as a thank-you for subscribing to my channel and my newsletter!
@pug7053
@pug7053 8 ай бұрын
awesome, thanks Thomas.
@billsayer1
@billsayer1 8 ай бұрын
High protein may be better for building muscle but not better for longevity! Which is better not being ripped or RIP, I know which one I’m going for but happy to bring flowers when I visit you…
@gare427000
@gare427000 8 ай бұрын
Thx Thomas .👍👍. For all your support and knowledge for us to hear and learn. Keep up the good work!!! Jorge
@celistaduke2588
@celistaduke2588 7 ай бұрын
Chana Dahl chickpeas are a low glycemic level 8, super creamy, and flavorful. We use in the place of mashed potatoes.
@robertevans1343
@robertevans1343 7 ай бұрын
👀👍🏾✌🏾
@heidicook2739
@heidicook2739 8 ай бұрын
I’m getting tired of every study contradicting the one before. So I’m just figuring out what work best for my own body.
@cynicalobserver8176
@cynicalobserver8176 7 ай бұрын
The scientific method is about formulating a scientific theory based on current evidence. If you have more data the theory gets updated.
@5robyy
@5robyy 7 ай бұрын
When you EXPERIENCE smthng yourself , no matter what study, it will NEVER ever convince you anymore that the opposite is true ;) (Studies are many times biased , delibaretly or not , made , designed and executed by people that are influenced by a variety of interests you may know or may not know. about)
@JakeIsTiredd
@JakeIsTiredd 7 ай бұрын
Hahaha. Welcome to the club.
@gabocavallaro
@gabocavallaro 7 ай бұрын
Same here, feeling so lost, each approach (keto, low carb, paleo ,etc) got their studies on favour and detracting them...
@changename8820
@changename8820 7 ай бұрын
Next year, everything goes back to the old way, reviews are the goal 😂
@coffeetalk924
@coffeetalk924 8 ай бұрын
"I was wrong about purple. Green is the best color. ONE MONTH LATER "Ok, there is some fascinating research that just came out recently pointing us back to purple. 😆
@DangerZone-w6y
@DangerZone-w6y 8 ай бұрын
@YouCantDimMyLight True that.. cause they have constantly push crap prodducts.. every single video... its nauseating... I had to un sub from this guy and several others.
@harveyfredrickson826
@harveyfredrickson826 8 ай бұрын
Both can be true: Science changes sometimes, AND, these people need to make daily videos....
@gore-geousmombie4686
@gore-geousmombie4686 8 ай бұрын
It's certainly better than to keep pushing green just because you've been pushing green for so long! People were pushing keto on me for so long and now they're eating over 100 carbs a day. Instead of intermittent fasting, they are now eating four or five meals a day.
@minagalexe
@minagalexe 8 ай бұрын
So it's something different. Before it was it's purple better or the green is the best. Nowadays is different. The green is identify himself as purple. Don't be rude with him recognize his pronouns otherwise it will become red and after that black. From anger obvious.
@DMcLuvn
@DMcLuvn 8 ай бұрын
Every day we find out we were wrong about this and we were wrong about that.. and ya know what.. 5 years later we will find out we were wrong about being wrong.
@denisblack9897
@denisblack9897 8 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I told my teachers at school! They were all furious and defending bullshit they were taught😅
@RedfishCarolina
@RedfishCarolina 8 ай бұрын
I think you're wrong. But so am I, so it's ok.
@santiagojara8056
@santiagojara8056 8 ай бұрын
That's how science works, knowledge is fallible.
@tryptamine-loopring-eth
@tryptamine-loopring-eth 8 ай бұрын
I’ll just say apes eat high carb diets
@mundusdominium9316
@mundusdominium9316 8 ай бұрын
Well one thing that we find that is constant in all of the studies that are isochloric, is that calories are king. So count your calories. Why does everyone have to make it so complicated I have no idea. We know calories have an effect on your weight so why ignore it and go on ridiculous fad diets that most don't stick to. Count calories, eat highly nutritious food, have at least 25 g of fiber a day, and choose any type of diet that you can stick to for the rest of your life while doing those three things and you're set.
@NickWoolfolk-n1m
@NickWoolfolk-n1m 8 ай бұрын
I follow you because you seem to study and stay on top of the latest nutrition and exercise research. However, as things change it seems like we’re going down a rabbit hole looking for a simple healthy diet and exercise program. Simple, and clear is always the best strategy, to me.
@jahchinue2641
@jahchinue2641 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. Everything he says now is the opposite, as idpf he's been silenced or something, just strange thumbing through his videos and the content t is not as interesting.
@anthonylentini5090
@anthonylentini5090 8 ай бұрын
I have heard so many times from people "you can't build muscle without carbs" but I can believe it is tied to calories more. One year of my life I hired a trainer. The best performance increase of the whole year was when I was doing a month of carnivore. The biggest difference was I did not track my calories before I started carnivore. And I made sure I ate 2200 calories a day on carnivore. Before that I wasn't eating enough. I started looking back at my diet before, and I was probably eating 1600ish calories daily.
@dallysinghson5569
@dallysinghson5569 7 ай бұрын
Why tf would you ditch veg and fruit?
@JustChill-zd4ib
@JustChill-zd4ib 5 ай бұрын
How the hell do you eat so much meat and find it palatable? I don't get how that's possible. Meat is at its best when mixed with healthy carbs
@anthonylentini5090
@anthonylentini5090 5 ай бұрын
@JustChill-zd4ib Well, I enjoy steak. If I had to go ground beef all the time I would for sure get tired of it.
@SubFlow22
@SubFlow22 8 ай бұрын
I eat zero carbs for 30 days, I lose 30lbs+, my attention span is awesome, my recovery time reduces dramatically, but I do dream about Cinnamon Toast Crunch the entire time. That's all I need to know.
@MichaelJLink
@MichaelJLink 8 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@davidgreene8608
@davidgreene8608 8 ай бұрын
You lose 30 lbs because your on a starvation diet. You simply can’t get enough calories eating zero carbs. If your did eat enough calories you would not lose weight. Keep it up and you’ll tank your testosterone and the ability to ever breakdown carbs. Good luck
@aneeshprasobhan
@aneeshprasobhan 8 ай бұрын
​@@davidgreene8608 hi, how does taking less carbs tank testosterone ?
@Pgr-pt5ep
@Pgr-pt5ep 8 ай бұрын
Losing 1lb a day is highly temporary as a lot of it is water weight, glycogen reserves and gut clearing up....all of which you will gain back as soon as you go anywhere near your previous diet. Even in full ketosis, aka water fasting, it's almost impossible to loose 1 lb. of fat a day unless you go into starvation mode, in which case you are taking a huge risks with your life unless your body is already reasonably healthy and you're near a hospital in case your heart is acting funny.
@davidgreene8608
@davidgreene8608 8 ай бұрын
Trust me
@Hogo69
@Hogo69 8 ай бұрын
I think carbs are the easiest macro to over consume so I’ve always gotta watch carb intake closest.
@Classicalliberal85
@Classicalliberal85 8 ай бұрын
for me its fat that is the easiest to consume with 9 cal/gram compared to 4 cal/gram for protein and carbs. I can eat a 1000 calories of peanut butter or cheese or olive oil in under 2 min, but eating a bunch of pasta is a task for me
@davidahart2476
@davidahart2476 8 ай бұрын
@@Classicalliberal85 That's why you have to watch them because they are calorie dense, the problem with carbs they turn into sugar and sugar is the main problem.
@Classicalliberal85
@Classicalliberal85 8 ай бұрын
@@davidahart2476 sugar isn't a problem for metabolically healthy people, especially in normal amounts
@jamesgarvey8402
@jamesgarvey8402 8 ай бұрын
@@Classicalliberal85 100% agree with this. And as I mentioned in a previous post, I did keto for about six months and felt pretty good. But once I switched over to working out a lot specifically for hypertrophy, I realize that I needed to scale back the fat big time and scale up the carbs to align with my protein. Big changes after that.
@danielbroomhall8882
@danielbroomhall8882 7 ай бұрын
@@Classicalliberal85 peanuts are not a good source of fat, too much phytic acid and in some cases glyphosates. As for cheese, a good one, but better if it is raw/organic cheese. Olive oil is also a good one as long as it is pure real olive oil (expensive tho).
@cg1811
@cg1811 8 ай бұрын
I will tell you this from my own experience. When I reduced my carbs significantly it played a major role in my hormone production including TEST and thyroid.
@garyr1934
@garyr1934 8 ай бұрын
Did your low carb lower or raise your Testostetone. and thyroid levels?
@cg1811
@cg1811 8 ай бұрын
@@garyr1934 lower both significantly. I had labcorp bloodwork done before and after. I been dealing with a mold / Candida issue and thought I needed to cut the carbs. It messed me up.
@garyr1934
@garyr1934 8 ай бұрын
@@cg1811 I thought so Me too But no candida Try caprylic acid and black walnut to kill that There are other ways that don’t come to mind right now But yes Low carb did this to me We both. Need to regroup High quality carbs is key Good luck and thanks for responding
@Gina-Montana
@Gina-Montana 8 ай бұрын
I have Hashimoto’s, so I have to take replacement hormone. I have noticed no difference at all between high/low carb and my thyroid replacement dose needs. I’m still on the same dose of t4/t3. Perhaps we are all different, or maybe something else is throwing your levels off? I do know that too much caloric restriction can do it.
@garyr1934
@garyr1934 8 ай бұрын
@@Gina-Montana Hashimotos is something to contend with I’m sure you’re trying everything you can to manage it
@luciferofazaroth
@luciferofazaroth 8 ай бұрын
Ive done zero to 65 carbs on a carnivore diet for the last 43 days now and I'm becoming leaner and feel so much better.
@thirstonhowellthebird
@thirstonhowellthebird 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations. Do you eat any vegetables and if yes, which ones? What are your thoughts on dandelion greens organic and Romain lettuce?
@komalthecoolk
@komalthecoolk 8 ай бұрын
Everything is great in the short term. Watch out for long term side effects.
@andyerbz3979
@andyerbz3979 8 ай бұрын
I went from over 300 to down to 200 in a year strict keto carnivore and mostly omad occasionally 2mad but down the line my energy tanked I had no desire to exercise because I was very fatigued my sleep was horrible I now eat a solid 3 meals a day and eating 100 grams a carbs a day sometimes 150 depending on my exercise coming from veg & fruit I feel so much better now and still losing weight without the negative
@davothegreat9990
@davothegreat9990 8 ай бұрын
Ridiculous diet
@danmcarthur8077
@danmcarthur8077 8 ай бұрын
You probably put yourself in an extreme caloric deficit
@elephantintheroom5678
@elephantintheroom5678 8 ай бұрын
This shows I am not an anomaly when I can run even on fasts that are days long. Extremely interesting video, Thomas.
@philiplittlejohn1794
@philiplittlejohn1794 8 ай бұрын
Available food veggie, grain and now meat to the American public is all tainted by chemical and big pharmaceutical companies. We really have to pick our poison. Wouldn’t be great if we could class action lawsuit them into oblivion and just finally get access to real, natural food. I don’t want to be roundup ready and I don’t want to be on meds when I eat food. If I am consuming drugs shouldn’t a doctor be monitoring the amounts, the combinations and my own specific allergies to any and all drugs being ingested.
@lbplease
@lbplease 8 ай бұрын
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@AliceFarmer-bg4dw
@AliceFarmer-bg4dw 8 ай бұрын
Please get a metabolic scientist as a guest and cover the “Randle Cycle”. How do those Keto guys run 5 marathons in 5 days completely fasted ? Only water and salt. How do we explain that type of performance? No carbohydrates or fats.
@richardmiddleton7770
@richardmiddleton7770 8 ай бұрын
Lipolysis, gluconeugenesis and ketones. Eventually you'd need some calories but 5 marathons in 5 days is doable. They're not exactly going to be breaking any time records!
@johnp7739
@johnp7739 8 ай бұрын
@@richardmiddleton7770 Nor do they need to. We weren't designed or built to run marathons all of the time. Pluse marathon runners are usually sickly skinny or skinny-fat and many have heart problems. down the road.
@sethtphillips
@sethtphillips 8 ай бұрын
I’m a marathon runner, and doing keto / low carb / carnivore ultimately tanked my testosterone and running performance. Also, I don’t subscribe to ideal of running multiple marathons in a short period. Adequate recovery is essential. When I’m not injured, I’ll do 2-3 marathons a year at most. Every marathon I do, it takes at least 3 weeks to recover (speaking of not just physical recovery, but also mental recovery).
@johnp7739
@johnp7739 8 ай бұрын
@@sethtphillips "I’m a marathon runner" - That's your main problem. That's one of the most inefficient, hazard-prone ways to exercise. Humans weren't made for long-term, steady-state cardio. No wonder you also need a diet that's not optimal for humans, either.
@sethtphillips
@sethtphillips 8 ай бұрын
@@johnp7739 Wrong. You know nothing about former diet, which was Whole Foods (for 7 years) with moderate carbs. The most optimal diet is the omnivore diet, not a restrictive diet. I never gained weight or body fat until I did low carb and carnivore. Also, your note of “long-term, steady-state cardio” shows you are clueless about running. Long Distance Running comes with a variety of different workout, including sprints. My running life has included a host of high intensity work. So, no, my lifestyle didn’t cause me to need an less optimal diet - eating Whole Foods is optimal, not an extreme diet. My life was perfect before jumping on the low carb bandwagon. Long term low carb and carnivore, or any extreme diet for that matter, are definitely not optimal!
@sanjayrasheed7558
@sanjayrasheed7558 8 ай бұрын
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *🍽️ Overview of the Study Findings* - The study reviewed the impact of carbohydrate intake on workouts and muscle building across various timeframes. - Divided into four categories: acute, post-depletion, short-term, and long-term carbohydrate usage. 02:14 *🏋️‍♂️ Acute Carbohydrate Consumption* - Carbohydrate consumption 24 hours before a workout showed no significant effect on performance or strength in isocaloric studies. - Studies revealed a small improvement in performance with carbohydrates, but only in subjects with a caloric surplus. - Psychological factors, such as perception of carbohydrate intake, influenced performance outcomes. 06:58 *💪 Carbohydrate Repletion After Depletion* - Studies on repletion after glycogen depletion showed no significant performance difference between carbohydrate and non-carbohydrate groups. - Timing of carbohydrate intake post-depletion may impact glycogen restoration and subsequent performance. 08:17 *📅 Short-Term Carbohydrate Usage* - Randomized controlled trials over 2-7 days showed no significant performance difference with varying carbohydrate intake. - Most studies lacked isocaloric controls, indicating a need for further research in this area. 09:39 *📊 Long-Term Carbohydrate Intake* - Studies spanning 1-3 months found no significant effect of carbohydrate intake on strength or muscle growth. - Caloric intake appeared to be a more influential factor than carbohydrate consumption in muscle growth. - Muscle growth outcomes were similar regardless of carbohydrate intake when calories were matched. Made with HARPA AI
@agelessgains
@agelessgains 8 ай бұрын
Losing 17 lbs of body fat over 77 days using keto, fasting and a caloric deficit...incorporating carbs back into diet... With my group we collectively lost 191 lbs! Carbs are not the enemy, a daily calorie surplus is!
@bakrantz
@bakrantz 8 ай бұрын
Carbs are a source of energy so of course eating them in surplus would be a problem. Some people have trouble overeating carbs so a diet that curbs their consumption can be beneficial.
@kikataye6293
@kikataye6293 8 ай бұрын
Too many carbs and the wrong carbs ARE the enemy however
@agelessgains
@agelessgains 8 ай бұрын
@@kikataye6293 What are some of the clean carbs that you have in your lifestyle?
@agelessgains
@agelessgains 8 ай бұрын
@@bakrantz Yes.. timing of carbs is key
@JustChill-zd4ib
@JustChill-zd4ib 5 ай бұрын
People don't get that. They think only eating meat is somehow a boon instead just lowering calories and junk.
@sammyshreds
@sammyshreds 8 ай бұрын
After all the research I've done and diets I've tested, I've come to the conclusion that carbs can pretty much be tossed to the wind and replaced with healthy fats
@shawnlewis1918
@shawnlewis1918 8 ай бұрын
Right on!
@dallysinghson5569
@dallysinghson5569 7 ай бұрын
Unless you're physical/athletic and quickly find out there are reasons why athletes don't chase after keto fads.
@goolash9991
@goolash9991 7 ай бұрын
Wrong. A zero fiber diet leads to extreme gut issues. Ask me how I know.
@shawnlewis1918
@shawnlewis1918 7 ай бұрын
@@goolash9991 LOL....let's see...we have thousands of testimonials that admit to resolving IBS and gut issues by discarding fiber mostly or totally from their diet, including my wife who has had IBS her ENTIRE life since being a child, we have been through 3 doctors to help her and NOT ONE doctor was able to address it yet now she is down to mostly carnivore with very low fiber and for first time in her life her IBS is at bay with no issues and she is 59 years old. No YOU'RE wrong...fiber is not necessary for optimal health no matter what you say, just by the claim you made we know you are not being honest so we really don't care about asking you about anything.
@goolash9991
@goolash9991 7 ай бұрын
@@shawnlewis1918 Wow triggered much? Check out Karen Hurd’s bean protocol. She’s cured thousands of people with IBS & Crohn’s over the last 30 years in a matter of months. With no drugs. I’m sorry you went the dead end route of the medical industry. I was strict carnivore for 5 years and developed leaky gut which came with a whole host of other ailments. It’s been hell. My Leaky gut is healed but still trying to heal my worn out adrenals. But you do you. I’m never going carnivore again.
@the_flushjackson
@the_flushjackson 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been type 2 diabetic (completely reversed) and have done Keto, low carb, etc. After this reversal, I have just kept carbs on the lower end of my macros and the carbs I consume typically have a protein component or something beneficial. I understand that my lower end carb consumption is negligible either way in terms of results, but I’m a human being, not a robot. My fitness level is so high it doesn’t matter either way, it’s just kind of a personal preference at this point - kind of like cycling types of diets that you’ve mentioned in the past.
@MrQuadcity
@MrQuadcity 8 ай бұрын
The key takeaways from Thomas DeLauer's analysis on carbohydrate intake and its effects on muscle building and strength training include: 1. **Carbohydrate Impact Is Context-Dependent**: - Immediate pre-workout carbohydrates (within 24 hours before exercise) generally do not significantly enhance performance unless accompanied by an overall caloric surplus. 2. **Caloric Intake Over Carbs**: - Total caloric intake appears to have a more significant effect on performance and muscle growth than carbohydrate intake alone. This suggests that eating enough calories is more crucial than the specific timing or quantity of carbohydrates. 3. **Psychological Effects**: - Some of the perceived benefits of carbohydrate consumption could be psychological, giving a placebo effect that might enhance performance temporarily. 4. **Body’s Adaptability**: - The body is capable of replenishing glycogen stores through various metabolic pathways, such as gluconeogenesis and the Cori cycle. This reduces the necessity for high carbohydrate intake, especially in non-extreme training conditions. 5. **Long-Term Carb Intake**: - Over longer periods (from one week to three months), high carbohydrate intake does not consistently improve muscle strength or growth compared to lower carb intakes, particularly when calorie and protein levels are matched. 6. **Importance of Protein and Overall Diet**: - Protein intake and overall nutritional balance play a more critical role in muscle growth and recovery than carbohydrates alone. 7. **Specific Scenarios for Carb Loading**: - Carbohydrate loading can be beneficial in specific scenarios, particularly for athletes undergoing high-volume or long-duration training sessions, where quick glycogen replenishment can enhance next-day performance. 8. **Individualized Nutrition Strategies**: - Athletes and individuals should consider their specific training demands, personal metabolism, and dietary preferences when planning their nutrition strategies rather than strictly focusing on carbohydrate timing and quantity.
@maranathaacts1327
@maranathaacts1327 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Koberg00
@Koberg00 8 ай бұрын
MVP. Saved me 20 minutes 😂
@lissadawes4243
@lissadawes4243 8 ай бұрын
Dam, wish I read the comments first. Thanks.
@Fian_so
@Fian_so 8 ай бұрын
​@lissadawes4243 Hhhhhg ,sorry for you .But anyways it's always good to know the détails about the research
@truthwillprevail821
@truthwillprevail821 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, save me 20 minutes
@jakubchrobry3701
@jakubchrobry3701 8 ай бұрын
Calories trump all. A calorie surplus with 1.2 g/kg of protein is better than a calorie deficit with 1.6 g/kg of protein. Try growing muscle on a calorie deficit. Carbs are protein sparing (i.e. less protein is converted to glucose). Your body is always going to meet it energy needs, especially to the brain, before growing new muscle. This obesssion with high protein has been continuous since the 1980s. That's when the sale of protein powder began to take off. The average lifter doesn't need more than 1.5 or 1.6 g/kg. Even Brad Schoenfeld says this because that's what most the research shows.
@supercal333
@supercal333 8 ай бұрын
Recent research has shown a protein surplus bribe those numbers can be beneficial for muscle protein synthesis.
@blazefury8336
@blazefury8336 8 ай бұрын
Calories definitely trump all. I noticed that I can get away with 100g of protein per day or less at 220 lbs. as long as my carb consumption is high.
@Classicalliberal85
@Classicalliberal85 8 ай бұрын
this is true, if you are in a major caloric deficit, you definitely are going to need closer to 2.2 g/kg to avoid muscle loss but if you are in a surplus, its just not as big of a deal
@defdaz
@defdaz 8 ай бұрын
It's bizarre that you recognise that calorie surplus / deficit is a catabolic / anti-catabolic factor depending on which side of balance you are in yet then leap to to conclusion that carbs are somehow special. Calories - energy is exactly that. Guess where calories come from? ANY macro nutrient. Eg Fat, Protein and Carbohydrates. You do not need carbs to be in an energy surplus. An energy surplus from carbs is not special. In fact, we know now, that glucose in large amounts is toxic and can lead to all sort of issues like mitochondrial oxidation, metabolic syndrome, diabetes, alzheimers etc.
@jakubchrobry3701
@jakubchrobry3701 8 ай бұрын
@@defdaz Yeah, you convert amino acids to glucose for energy. Why do you have a problem with this? Sorry to hear you are in poor health and are glucose intolerant and/or insulin resistant. My body's metabolism regulates glucose very well. I can eat as much broccoli as I want. I would rather get my glucose for carbs rather than from protein or rely on ketosis. Why did you let yourself go?
@trollmcclure1884
@trollmcclure1884 8 ай бұрын
Eating carbs is faster and more efficient than gluconeogenesis. When combined with vitamin C the uric acid pathway is blocked. Fructose seems promising if insuline is an issue - which it shouldnt be if we are talking a calculated carb replenishment. BTW body is using glucose all the time. It doesnt make sense to me to force the liver to make it all day long from fat and protein.
@davidgreene8608
@davidgreene8608 8 ай бұрын
Exactly
@iamketovoreshorts
@iamketovoreshorts 7 ай бұрын
Unless you struggle with a lifetime of fat and an unhealthy mentality
@abcmaya
@abcmaya 8 ай бұрын
Thomas, you're correct. .I know this from personal experience, It's not just psychological. Eating carbs do improve strength and energy. I noticed this 20 years ago. I realized that I'm stronger whenever I eat meat with potatoes vs meat without it. After discovering this I add a little bit of carbs to my meal the day before or 2 hours before working out.
@supercal333
@supercal333 8 ай бұрын
I think you missed the point of this video. It's calories that matter, but carbs. If you're fat adapted (this takes time) and eat enough protein and fat, your body will make all the carbs it needs.
@abcmaya
@abcmaya 8 ай бұрын
@@supercal333 Oh... I just wanna clear up that my comment wasn't about the entire video. I was just responding to what he said in 6:40 when he said...."He eats a little bit of carb before working out." I usually put a timestamp when I do comments like that. But last night I was just being lazy.
@bakrantz
@bakrantz 8 ай бұрын
@@abcmaya Carb consumption makes little difference in these studies when total calories are controlled for.
@J.A.Z-TheMortal
@J.A.Z-TheMortal 8 ай бұрын
Perfect timing as i am starting a keto diet. Thanks
@ronburgandy7571
@ronburgandy7571 8 ай бұрын
Hahahaha sucker.
@organiclady
@organiclady 8 ай бұрын
Keto is also going to be debunked in future studies. Its one of the stupidest fad diets.
@ReaIistik
@ReaIistik 8 ай бұрын
I mean, you should have already known that carbs weren’t the issue. Just over consumption of food
@organiclady
@organiclady 8 ай бұрын
Keto will be the next to be debunked
@MH-bw9zt
@MH-bw9zt 8 ай бұрын
​@@ReaIistik but carb heavy foods don't fill most people up as much. Much easier to over eat carbs. Also this doesn't get into other health issues
@peterkuskis3825
@peterkuskis3825 8 ай бұрын
Carbo-loading with pasta or plenty of potatoes with your protein the night before always gave me longer lasting energy in a sport the next day. Also, fruit like raisins, immediately before playing, also improved energy.
@bakrantz
@bakrantz 8 ай бұрын
This is like the experiment where they gave sports drinks with and without sugar and there was simply a placebo effect. The actual science does not say you do much better on high carb/sugar diet.
@Miraak1868
@Miraak1868 7 ай бұрын
I cut out all carbs on June 28. I have thus self cured my diabetes 2. No poisonous carb crap for me !
@Steven-lc3tg
@Steven-lc3tg 7 ай бұрын
speak for yourself when you say "carb crap" , you couldn't handle them that's on you not the carbs . Many of us do fine
@Miraak1868
@Miraak1868 7 ай бұрын
@@Steven-lc3tg Carb CRAP ! ! Wait till you are 80 and see how you are doing on your candy, cake and ice cream!
@Steven-lc3tg
@Steven-lc3tg 7 ай бұрын
@@Miraak1868 i don't eat any of that stuff i agree it's trash. But if you're saying normal whole carbs are bad you are misguided
@Miraak1868
@Miraak1868 7 ай бұрын
@@Steven-lc3tg I cut out carbs and self cure my diabetes 2 and other health issues that were bugging me. Do you yet understand? Probably not.
@Steven-lc3tg
@Steven-lc3tg 7 ай бұрын
@@Miraak1868 i understand it worked for you, but you're demonizing carbs when it was a you thing not a carb thing
@markmccarthy7887
@markmccarthy7887 8 ай бұрын
Working out on ketones natural or exogenous married with Creatine I find is the best zone to be for performance. Taking ketones on a fasted workout is an incredibly satisfying experience
@4DTravelr
@4DTravelr 8 ай бұрын
Thomas it's time to accept that literally nobody knows literally anything haha. That said, love your videos.
@johnp7158
@johnp7158 8 ай бұрын
haha yup, and mix in dry fasting to really take your head for a spin
@vagabondcaleb8915
@vagabondcaleb8915 8 ай бұрын
Perhaps carbs have some effect on dopamine. It would make a lot of sense for placebo related to release of dopamine like this to be very strong.
@plasticstuff69
@plasticstuff69 8 ай бұрын
dopamine and addiction go hand in hand. most people are addicted. love reading these comments, people defending their carb consumption while denying they're addictive. most people use food as an escape and admitting that can be hard.
@dragon_dyce
@dragon_dyce 8 ай бұрын
sugar and cocaine release dopamine as well, carbs might have a benefit in the gym but doesnt necessarily mean its healthy.
@skeelatheskink8724
@skeelatheskink8724 8 ай бұрын
@@plasticstuff69😂 you sound like a no carb religious zealot. I’m gonna go enjoy my brown rice and red meat.
@OmSahaja
@OmSahaja 8 ай бұрын
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1349715/ What this study shows is that a high carb low protein diet increases dopaminergic tone. A properly functioning dopaminergic system is critical for avoiding diseases such as Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s. I think it’s best to avoid making diet a religion, and avoid making assertions like carbs are an addiction because it may have some connection to dopamine without reviewing the literature. I appreciate how Thomas stays open to emerging science. Science is constantly shifting as we test new hypotheses, the best thing we can do is remain open and not stick our heads in the sand to protect our beliefs.
@jennybadl7840
@jennybadl7840 8 ай бұрын
For the second point, it will be interesting to know what what used to flavored the water because some sweeteners could raise blood sugar even if they are carb free.
@lmusima3275
@lmusima3275 8 ай бұрын
From another fitness influencer, they advised fuelling up on carbs before a workout and after. Discouraged fasting, working out in a fasted state. Discouraged also eating much less carbs.
@thalai143
@thalai143 7 ай бұрын
Who?
@Jennifr1966
@Jennifr1966 8 ай бұрын
Will SEED help with leaky gut? My husband had to go on feeding tube. Terrible. I've been trying to teach him to like low carb. He's slowly getting there. I wonder if this would help.
@gaweindegraaf
@gaweindegraaf 8 ай бұрын
Why are people commenting as if they have watched the video when it hasn't even been out that long? Very odd. 😅
@melissajanaemiddleton6811
@melissajanaemiddleton6811 8 ай бұрын
Hahaha.... THANK YOU for calling the shills out on their shillery!!!👏👏Dude attacks Tom 3 minutes after the video dropped, when the video is.. how long? 🤔 😂
@cp37373
@cp37373 8 ай бұрын
Calm down little betas
@howtopost3450
@howtopost3450 8 ай бұрын
Bots
@94nolo
@94nolo 8 ай бұрын
either bots, or people just reading the title.
@reggiedunlop2222
@reggiedunlop2222 8 ай бұрын
Props to Thomas for being able to admit he’s changed his mind/opinion after reviewing recent studies/data.
@maylinsanjur415
@maylinsanjur415 8 ай бұрын
Could someone clarify how many carbs would be good to consume 4 hours after workout for those who practice a ketogenic diet?
@Michael-r3d
@Michael-r3d 8 ай бұрын
Keto means less than 25 grams a day so it's not like you have the choice to up your carbs anyway. It's more important to consume 1.1 to 1.6x grams of protein per KG of bodyweight, and to reduce your blood sugar spike after meals by exercising or at least walking immediately after eating. Supplements like korean ginseng, ACV before a meal, chromium, berberine, alpha lipoic acid and benfothiamine also reduce blood sugar levels
@tomjones2348
@tomjones2348 8 ай бұрын
Exactly the information I was looking for! Thomas, this is in my estimation, one of your finest presentations. Thank you. And.....I never quite your videos prior to the end.
@pug7053
@pug7053 8 ай бұрын
luv ya positivity jonesy, yes he sure is a star.
@danielj6559
@danielj6559 3 ай бұрын
So eating carbs then night before is enough for morning fasted training? docent liver glycogen gets depleted during night?
@maplin007
@maplin007 8 ай бұрын
Tim noakes is running some studies to prove you don’t need carbs or glycogen to perform well. This coming from the man who invented carb loading and high carbs for athletes. Carbs wreck your appetite brakes, you can eat more, if you eat protein and fat satiation comes sooner in my experience.
@MarmaladeINFP
@MarmaladeINFP 8 ай бұрын
Studies have shown that low-carb and zero-carb individuals maintain their glycogen levels during and after exercise.
@maplin007
@maplin007 8 ай бұрын
@@MarmaladeINFP yep but he’s looking at wether it’s crucial, what seems to be crucial is your blood glucose levels not the muscles.
@Jerry101ucanttouchmae
@Jerry101ucanttouchmae 8 ай бұрын
Tim lost it a long time ago 😅
@maplin007
@maplin007 8 ай бұрын
@@Jerry101ucanttouchmae Lost what?
@knockemoutjones1938
@knockemoutjones1938 8 ай бұрын
I train professional boxers. They have to cut water weight starting the week before the fight. We go from a glycogenic diet to ketogenic back to glycogenic as soon as they get off the scale. Yes those carbs effect their performance drastically in this case. Of course the water loading pushes out all their electrolytes too and they’re dehydrating towards the end but you can see the difference early when they’re still drinking 2-3 gallons in the beginning. As soon as they can start putting carbs and electrolytes back you can see them snap out of it. I suggest you study this process to get a different perspective because without those carbs any explosive exercise will sap their energy fast when they’re carb deficient. As opposed to the 24-36 hours after the scale they will feel brand new and ready to fight for 12 rounds
@johnp7158
@johnp7158 8 ай бұрын
a dry fast burst to help transitions is the key
@idesiremore9607
@idesiremore9607 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this great information and video!! Who would’ve thought?! However. I’m type 2 diabetic and me & carbs don’t have probably will never have a good relationship.
@goransarafinovski3613
@goransarafinovski3613 8 ай бұрын
It would be nice if these so called "experts" can inform us or even explain to us how us Type 2 diabetics can build muscle and when to use carbs.
@macknumber9
@macknumber9 8 ай бұрын
Walter Kempner would disagree
@aliciastanley5582
@aliciastanley5582 8 ай бұрын
Me too. It’s a mistake to think this could be an overall statement. I am a 70 yr old type 2 diabetic woman with a tendency unless on keto to have fatty liver & bad triglycerides & bad HDL . Very low carb keto diet with higher protein(animal&plant). This fixed everything for me and I lost 38 lbs that I had been trying to lose for 27 years with my nutritionists diet and daily or every other day hour or more exercise that NEVER worked for ME. I am not a young 30’s yr old non diabetic male who is all about the muscle building to be muscle bound. When are people going to stop all the tribal self identity wars about foods. Different diets are good for different people at DIFFERENT TIMES. It may be healthier I believe to vary for short periods of time: Carnivore mostly a few days then maybe vegetarian for few days then a 24 hr fast, intermittent fasting most days with only 2 meals and a few days here and there throw in a small keto 3rd meal. Always keto and carnivore but every couple weeks a few days with some resistant starch and some days with lentils. Get the idea?Most people in this country don’t need what Thomas is talking about today - they are prediabetic or diabetic or obese. They be are not young or good condition mid life muscle guys. He’s about high performance in that specific group.
@bigshaq2929
@bigshaq2929 8 ай бұрын
Stop eating carbs... seriously. Like immediately. Give yourself a week and I guarantee you will have cured it.
@sethtphillips
@sethtphillips 8 ай бұрын
It’s fine be low carb temporarily. And if dietary carbs don’t trigger you, you could slowly add them. Just make sure you’re getting enough protein (this is especially important for satiety, building muscle, and many body functions). Many carnivores like to look at carbs as drugs, when it was the lack of sufficient protein and consumption of **bad fats AND bad carbs**.
@Hggdrhjfddg
@Hggdrhjfddg 8 ай бұрын
The more I listen to Thomas's podcast interviewing other experts the more I appreciate his perspective ethics character and values❤ as it relates to the information he shares with the world.
@supercal333
@supercal333 8 ай бұрын
He uses peds and passes off his physical shape like it's because of the advice he gives. That's hardly honest. Not saying the advice is all wrong but that his body is not a result of just kidding and the nutritional advice.
@Hggdrhjfddg
@Hggdrhjfddg 8 ай бұрын
​@supercal333 thank you for sharing. I do enjoy the channel exclusively for the content.
@dk.650
@dk.650 8 ай бұрын
Prof Tim, fellow countryman, was scoffed at years ago. His Banting approach that I learnt from eventually led me to carnivore. Body always feels ready for any physical challenges at 56.😊
@FisherKot
@FisherKot 8 ай бұрын
Strict Lion diet works better for me than anything else; beef/lamb water salt. But that’s just me.
@dallysinghson5569
@dallysinghson5569 7 ай бұрын
Must suffer with the low test?
@keto-adhd3061
@keto-adhd3061 7 ай бұрын
My testosterone on keto was over 900 On carbohydrates dropped to under 600
@Ladystardragon
@Ladystardragon 8 ай бұрын
Hey Thomas! Love your channel! I'm no kind of athlete... But, I find that now that I focus specifically on Protein intake, I've been losing the weight more easily than expected (lost 6 lbs this week). I keep my protein between 90-135 g- fat- below 150 g (but usually below 120), carbs- usually below 100 g (but occasionally higher). This new round of dietary focus has been short, but, very beneficial!! And you are my number 1 guru!! Thanks for all you do! 😊
@JJ_Adventures
@JJ_Adventures 8 ай бұрын
I think the biggest takeaway from this is that carbs are truly beneficial for one reason; getting into a surplus while being soft on the wallet. Carbs are phenomenally cheap, even good carbs like fruit. Could I hypothetically put my giant 250 pound Viking ass into a surplus eating nothing but protein, build muscle and stay fairly lean simultaneously? Well sure, but...money.
@supercal333
@supercal333 8 ай бұрын
That comes at the cost of your looking term health. Animal fat and protein are nutritionally and calorically dense so you don't have to eat as much volume wise.
@JJ_Adventures
@JJ_Adventures 8 ай бұрын
@@supercal333 well it really comes down to goals. I personally don't care to live to see 120 and hurt just getting in and out of bed. If longevity is the goal though, then there's no arguing that carnivore+ is more of the way to go. In terms of pursuing bodybuilding though...for a guy of my stature, I have to consume a TON of protein to be in a surplus to actually grow. Even reaching that surplus with how filling protein is is tough for me in particular. I can easily maintain and lose weight on a more carnivore based diet, but it's much harder for me to gain.
@a.c.slater573
@a.c.slater573 8 ай бұрын
@@JJ_Adventuresthere’s nothing wrong with carbs, keto is for overweight people, carbs are for muscle builders. Most people in these comments have never set foot in a gym.
@Classicalliberal85
@Classicalliberal85 8 ай бұрын
@@JJ_Adventures not true, carnivore is not proven to be beneficial for longevity
@JJ_Adventures
@JJ_Adventures 8 ай бұрын
@@Classicalliberal85 it is when you consider that Alzheimer's is just type 3 diabetes due to insulin sensitivity issues in the brain.
@wallacebonner7939
@wallacebonner7939 8 ай бұрын
I noticed that you were showing diagrams of the liver replacing glycogen; anything showing the affect on an impaired liver on all this?
@megaexidor
@megaexidor 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic vid Thomas, paper proof of what is being lived out🎉🎉🎉. I rarely comment on anything anymore. Yup my back & neck are still wrecked & yup the 95lbs has been kept off for into the sixth year now. I've been cannavore for 3yrs And will continue to do so. Keep um coming Thomas!
@pug7053
@pug7053 8 ай бұрын
do u eat any carbs?
@megaexidor
@megaexidor 8 ай бұрын
For 3yrs I had very little to mostly no carbs. And when I did have some carbs during that time. I would quickly feel like garbage. Then I learned about carb cycling. I did this after I lost the weight & now days I may have some carbs once a month, I don't feel like garbage when I have some after a couple of months. Almost zero processed foods, only sugar I have is from raw unfiltered Honey.
@zolamadda5980
@zolamadda5980 8 ай бұрын
You have a eating disorder.
@akronakron4352
@akronakron4352 8 ай бұрын
It seems we have been wrong about a lot of things that we were sure of for a long time, lately.
@anul6801
@anul6801 7 ай бұрын
"We" Talk to yourself
@cjwise7741
@cjwise7741 7 ай бұрын
After 15 years of training and dieting I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s much more important to find something that works for you rather than treat studies like facts and absolutes. I personally hated Keto when I did it. It felt great at first, but after about 2-3 months I felt awful. I personally feel and perform better when I eat carbs. That’s just me though.
@fedeuma
@fedeuma 8 ай бұрын
Finally a video that makes me feel great about my low-to-no carbs lifestyle and i don't feel like I'm leaving performance / muscle grow on the table and that at the end, what really matters, is, being on a surplus for muscle grow and performance. Thankyou Thomas!
@sandrabassett9923
@sandrabassett9923 3 ай бұрын
Kudos to you Thomas, not sure if afraid to reevaluate your findings.. Some influencers won't admit they're changed especially the ketone pushers a few years back
@PattyCakeJake
@PattyCakeJake 8 ай бұрын
Then 4 months later… another “study” will show something else. This channel is just fueling the flavor of the day concept. I have a hard time listening to these videos anymore.
@ApolloSuns
@ApolloSuns 8 ай бұрын
Yeah it's like whiplash. Just to get views and keep sponsorship
@denalimedical3682
@denalimedical3682 8 ай бұрын
Yep
@paulfsweatt4948
@paulfsweatt4948 8 ай бұрын
Then why do you?
@NostalgiNorden
@NostalgiNorden 8 ай бұрын
it's almost as keeping up to date makes you re-evalue things instead of being stuck in your ways.
@damiansaucedo9951
@damiansaucedo9951 8 ай бұрын
That's literally how research works.
@MiguePizar
@MiguePizar 8 ай бұрын
And that's why I always have carbs during my evening intermittent fasting, and I can perform perfectly for the whole fasting even if I workout like crazy. Carbs are not demon, is the overuse of them maybe the demon, but if you train hard, or have an active lifestyle, they are needed for performing better physically and mentally. Also there should be more studies regarding muscle building with low or 0 carb vs high carb, but with exactly the same calories, no one with more calories than the other.
@Lechuque
@Lechuque 8 ай бұрын
When someone says:"I was wrong about...." I like the video just out of respect.
@organiclady
@organiclady 8 ай бұрын
Ya but his channel is now deleting comments that state other points of view. No respect for that.
@healthworm
@healthworm 8 ай бұрын
​@@organicladyThe Big Tech "G*****" has been censoring comments and replies recently even in other channels
@healthworm
@healthworm 8 ай бұрын
​@@organicladyThat has something to do with the company behind Y T. C*n**rs**p has become very silly
@shanebaird543
@shanebaird543 8 ай бұрын
I am three months into the carnivore diet. The rate that my body has recomped and built muscle has blown my mind. I surf at an elite level. I have noticed that I feel the burn sooner when paddling hard but it hasn’t negatively affected my performance. I can easily push through and I feel much stronger and stable on my board from the muscle I have built. I am actually surfing better because I am stronger, leaner and more flexible.
@nikosogamias
@nikosogamias 8 ай бұрын
u should make a vids on ur current diet/day in the life. a video on ur thoughts on longterm keto.
@organiclady
@organiclady 8 ай бұрын
In other words, a video on how to look 15 years older than your actual age.
@jeniferjohnson374
@jeniferjohnson374 8 ай бұрын
I'd love it if he did this!
@blancaof89
@blancaof89 8 ай бұрын
@@organicladyketo diet makes ppl look older?
@jessicar.8333
@jessicar.8333 8 ай бұрын
​@@blancaof89 you're stressing your body too much if you don't eat any carbs. Good carbs like beans, lentils, fruit, and raw honey are pretty important.
@supercal333
@supercal333 8 ай бұрын
He would have to include the peds he takes though.
@nicolettegrace5327
@nicolettegrace5327 7 ай бұрын
Great video Thomas, this definitely opens my eyes as I was also wrong about a lot of thing.
@josephmorrison3634
@josephmorrison3634 8 ай бұрын
What everyone misses is the answer to this question? What does “protein from meat” get converted to in the human body? Fat and glucose! Aka fat and carbs! Even a 100% carnivore diet is providing the body with both fat and carbs at the mitochondria “energy source” level
@williambelmont9601
@williambelmont9601 8 ай бұрын
The benefit is that the body can choose which energy source to produce, whereas with exogenous carbs you're telling the body to manage all the excess carbs you've consumed.
@josephmorrison3634
@josephmorrison3634 8 ай бұрын
@@williambelmont9601 True, but this is why I believe that it’s ok to eat “good carbs” like fruit / honey like Dr Paul Saladino does because you save your body from having to produce the glucose from amino acids
@buster8913
@buster8913 8 ай бұрын
@@williambelmont9601 turning protein into glucose is inherently stressful, and using fat for energy is inefficient. You are damaging your metabolism by not eating carbs
@jhamlin726
@jhamlin726 8 ай бұрын
​@@buster8913incorrect
@supercal333
@supercal333 8 ай бұрын
​@@buster8913This is not correct. Please watch Dr Bart Kaye's videos on this. Carbs cause more damage than benefit over the long term. Our ability to process them developed as a stop gap for when animal protein was not available.
@Heatherrosesingsanddances
@Heatherrosesingsanddances 8 ай бұрын
So moving forward are you going to maintain your stance on frequently being in a caloric deficit even though you’re reaching your target protein intake goals?
@zalonyd3118
@zalonyd3118 8 ай бұрын
Carbs added to type 2 is a bad idea for me...
@jeremyleonbarlow
@jeremyleonbarlow 8 ай бұрын
Since last July, I have had some protein and carbs 30 minutes before my total body resistance training and this was how I broke a between 24 and 36 hour fast. Today I trained fasted at 34 hours. With some food in the form of a protein and creatine shake before today I routinely did 63 sets of 10 in my total body workout. Today fasted I did 42 sets of 10 in my total body workout finishing 20 minutes earlier. I wasn't completely gassed, but I was gassed enough in the early double sets that I felt doing 2 sets for each exercise was enough in a fasted state. I will see if Thursday when I do it again I feel the same or if I can go back to 3 sets of 10 for all 21 exercises I do.
@digimom82
@digimom82 8 ай бұрын
We’ll I can’t eat ANY carbs and even a protein shake raises blood sugar😔. So only meat proteins, fats and water fasting are working for me now
@johnp7158
@johnp7158 8 ай бұрын
you need dry fasting
@AliceFarmer-bg4dw
@AliceFarmer-bg4dw 8 ай бұрын
Which fuel does the mitochondria utilize the best? Carbohydrates, Fatty acids, ketones, lactic acid, alcohol etc?
@leemanwrong
@leemanwrong 8 ай бұрын
Has to be fat in my opinion, why else would we only store a few thousand calories of carbs versus hundreds of thousands of calories as fat?
@kmac33PS5
@kmac33PS5 8 ай бұрын
The more time goes by the more I realize my body never lies to me. Awesome video!!!
@samuelgaver7757
@samuelgaver7757 8 ай бұрын
The hormone response and the intensity of the workout both trump carb or any other intake in regards to muscle loss or gain as well of recovery.
@HammyGirl999
@HammyGirl999 8 ай бұрын
This is SO helpful. Great presentation of a much needed study!
@randya322
@randya322 8 ай бұрын
Good Info. Dr. Jaquish has been saying this for a couple years now.
@ryanmcevoy5075
@ryanmcevoy5075 8 ай бұрын
I find on a keto diet i have unreal amounts of stress levels as i do workout a lot and bike every day, i added carbs in before and intra and aftter workouts at the gym and i feel really good as of now, i do leave normally 48hours betweeen workoutts and when im on keto i was having to leave 72+ but still putting up with the stress levels on the off days as i have a demanding job and bike every day... even if the biking is kept aerobic threshold, keto is great for losing weigh but for me not when im training sadly. I think keto is a great way to get your body to balance and restore some health you have lost by smashing insulin levels and ignoring certain foods but like everything balance is probably key i cant be keto nor carb 100%
@hankstorm3135
@hankstorm3135 8 ай бұрын
it is low carb- not no carb. you need carbs for metabolic flexibility. best to pick a more complex, slow and complete carb instead of short chain.
@94nolo
@94nolo 8 ай бұрын
yes, you want carbs for daily exercise.
@anab0lic
@anab0lic 8 ай бұрын
I've been bodybuilding 10 years low carb, you are doing something very wrong if you feel you need carbs, most likely protein intake too high and not enough fats.
@anab0lic
@anab0lic 8 ай бұрын
@@naturallawgiver less than 10g a day.
@mattizzle81
@mattizzle81 8 ай бұрын
@@94nolo I exercise daily just fine with zero carbs, actually better. Fat is an almost unlimited fuel store.
@vincewhite5087
@vincewhite5087 8 ай бұрын
After depletion did the offer a group protein & fat?
@IzzoWingChun
@IzzoWingChun 8 ай бұрын
So much for the Dr Mike video.
@Dave2kool4skool
@Dave2kool4skool 8 ай бұрын
I'm no athlete but did do a keto diet and lost a lot of weight. After losing the weight I remained on the keto diet and prioritized protein and fat and was able to build a decent amount of muscle. Not a bodybuilder but have visible muscles
@clintcarter
@clintcarter 8 ай бұрын
Have been weight training for 35 years and gone ketovore just the last 4 months and I can’t believe how strong I am over all and how good of pumps I still get. Never would have believed it.
@faceyourfairytale
@faceyourfairytale 7 ай бұрын
what kind of ketovore are you on?
@clintcarter
@clintcarter 7 ай бұрын
@@faceyourfairytale like 90-95% red meat. Either steak or hamburger. I’ll have some broccoli or brussel sprouts here or there. Not for their nutritional value but just to change it up. Slathered in butter and salt they tasty.
@faceyourfairytale
@faceyourfairytale 7 ай бұрын
ty for your answer! i'm going lion for a while, but i'm interested in maybe introducing certain things eventually
@tylert4271
@tylert4271 8 ай бұрын
I have done fasting, many 5 days, and daily intermittent for 10 years, on and off true keto for 10 years as well. And my strength is the same or better with little or no carbs. 1. I suspect that ketones make the brain stronger, which translates to mental "strength," making me physically stronger. And 2. I also suspect that the right amount of carbs is better all around than more carbs, and the right amount may be what your body produces through gluconeogenesis, and/or much less carbs than we typically think of as "carbing up"
@JonWRowe
@JonWRowe 8 ай бұрын
The way I see it, there are three different things, each of which have different ends: 1. Visual appearance: What a body builder seeks to achieve; 2. Strength and other kinds of athletic performance outcomes; 3. Optimal nutrition. I think low to zero carb athletes can do quite well with 1 and 2. Though it may not be "optimal" as compared to a regime that incorporates a significant amount of carbs. I'm most concerned with #3. Though, I would consult Dr. Nick Norwitz for 1 and 2 as it relates to what Thomas is trying to claim here.
@shawnlewis1918
@shawnlewis1918 8 ай бұрын
In other words....carnivore is king which I proved to myself after doing both keto and carnivore. I've settled into a ketovore diet with 90% animal based and 10% plant based with avocados and blueberries, green tea matcha, lemon juice & ACV, I'm the leanest I've been in over 30 years at 53 years of age and my energy is fantastic....similar to my 20's! This is why I stopped following Thomas several months ago after him interviewing Paul the flopper Saladino.....I've learned Paul is full of crap by now and I don't know why anyone takes him seriously anymore with his latest claims, he goes where the money is. Glad to see Thomas cover this study, calorie intake and animal based protein & nutrition is optimal for muscle growth and health, I have been very confident about this for the past year just from my personal results and hundreds of other testimonials with other carnivores!
@markaguilera493
@markaguilera493 2 ай бұрын
How long have you been ketovore?
@DonnaClements-l4m
@DonnaClements-l4m 7 ай бұрын
I am not even as knowledgeable as Lay Person when it comes to all the science of all this stuff, and even EYE find this extremely fascinating!
@livincincy4498
@livincincy4498 8 ай бұрын
Dr. Shawn Baker gained 80# over his bulk to gain muscle. His cut began in the last quarter of 2023. He does not consume carbohydrates. He eats only meat. Mostly ribeyes from vendors raising cows on pasture. So it is leaner than traditionally raised grocery store beef.
@brawndothethirstmutilator9848
@brawndothethirstmutilator9848 8 ай бұрын
That’s disgusting. Nothing good is happening for someone’s health or longevity with an 80 pound “bulking cycle”.
@johnp7739
@johnp7739 8 ай бұрын
@@brawndothethirstmutilator9848 Baker has always been a big guy so I seriously doubt put on 80 pounds. He can, at age 57, do things that practically no vegans and few "balanced diet" omnivores can do unless they're on all kinds of performance-enhancing drugs. Let's see how many of them can match his long jump or rowing records at 263 pounds and 57 years old.
@Brad-t7e
@Brad-t7e 8 ай бұрын
What types of carbohydrates are in these studies?
@Grace-hq1ur
@Grace-hq1ur 8 ай бұрын
I eat bread every day. 6 slices. And im from Africa, our diet is mostly carbs. Im 31 and a mom of two I do workout not extensively but i move my body . I have a lean body, a flat tummy. Yall wrong about a lot of things
@fiorenzo6301
@fiorenzo6301 7 күн бұрын
Yes maybe because you are homo sapiens. In Europe we are more from neanderthal so maybe we need more meat to not die genetically
@CharlieWilliamParks
@CharlieWilliamParks Ай бұрын
Does anyone normally do less than 10 sets per workout? This does not sound like the norm at all.
@JD-mz1rl
@JD-mz1rl 8 ай бұрын
I also train like a professional athlete. As for eating the day prior, what you eat can make a HUGE difference, but it isn't going to be just "carbs". What turns me into literal superman the next day, is a pint of whole cream ice cream. It's everything in that -- not just the carbs -- that contributes to that extra performance boost. Literally have won competitions this way
@johnp7158
@johnp7158 8 ай бұрын
ice cream on rest day, huh lol
@JD-mz1rl
@JD-mz1rl 8 ай бұрын
@@johnp7158 the whole heavy cream does wonders. When combined with the sugar, it makes the ice cream slow digesting actually, which is why you want it the day / night before
@danielj6559
@danielj6559 5 ай бұрын
You have ice cream the evening before and train fasted in the morning ?
@JD-mz1rl
@JD-mz1rl 5 ай бұрын
@@danielj6559 yes. I train much better fasted, as long as well fed prior to fasting.
@danielj6559
@danielj6559 5 ай бұрын
@@JD-mz1rl Wow sounds great, so it works for you performance wise, but does it also works for building muscle? to train fasted?
@paulblade6064
@paulblade6064 8 ай бұрын
what happened to complex carbs, I never hear it mentioned?
@prodviggy
@prodviggy 8 ай бұрын
you are interpreting this incorrectly, "calories trump carbs" that's comparing apples and oranges. What we really need is two groups eating 4000 calories each - one doing ketosis levels of low carb and the other doing 400+ grams of carbs. The high carb group will obviously do better.
@johnp7739
@johnp7739 8 ай бұрын
Very doubtful. Personally, 4,000 calories of a high-carb diet would push me into an extra 2,000 calories of bad carbs/fats daily. The more carbs I eat of any kind, the more cravings I get
@10x10_4life
@10x10_4life 8 ай бұрын
​@johnp7739 you missed the point that's not what was said. Then that's not 4000 calories your changing the argument
@charlieireland5986
@charlieireland5986 8 ай бұрын
He literally talks about this around 13 minutes
@ailfawka6278
@ailfawka6278 8 ай бұрын
But carbs contain calories 😂😂😂
@10x10_4life
@10x10_4life 8 ай бұрын
​@@charlieireland5986 I do not believe the comment was referring to muscle growth just performance. Witch was said in the video. Maybe I took you comment the wrong way idk lol
@James-zu1ij
@James-zu1ij 5 ай бұрын
Seems about right according to the way I feel. I cycle flat out to work (Zone 3, 30 miles) I have a black coffee and a handful of pumpkin seeds. I never feel compromised for strength I also rarely have dinner at work; just a slice of toast and butter and lots of coffee. I dont concern myself about protein intake or carbs. I just eat when I get a chance some times next day when im off work. I view it like im filling a petrol tank. Its pointless replenishing it until it runs out, and filling it up again is quite a slow process. If its going to be over 2 hours rapido then its best to start replenishing as soon as possible. The tank is replenished slowly from exogenous carbs and endogenous fats. To get a bigger tank you need to train it. Im 63 and have no muscle loss and still the same shape I was in in my 30s. (on a bike) I used to get in to trouble for not eating much before a 100 mile ride. Its pointless, the tank is full, and when you are only averaging zone 1/2, the tank fills itself slowly from your fats giving hours of cycling. Just eat a sandwich, a banana etc, stop for a coffee somewhere. Meanwhile my friends where chugging on the carbs, water and gels every 10 minutes having to stop every hour to pee
@Superstitiousace
@Superstitiousace 8 ай бұрын
great video.. thank you for your dedication ❤
@willcook403
@willcook403 8 ай бұрын
At what speed does gluconeogenesis kick in ???
@samik8008
@samik8008 8 ай бұрын
I enjoy my carbs from beer and no more
@baddabing28
@baddabing28 8 ай бұрын
I’m a T1D and going on a strict low carb diet ( less than 30) can help control my blood sugar, however I always wind up with electrolyte imbalances regardless of drinking zero carb electrolyte drinks with stevia.
@georgejohn9893
@georgejohn9893 8 ай бұрын
My Mom ate mostly carbs, not many vegetables and not much protein and lived to age 99 ???
@David_Hartshorn
@David_Hartshorn 8 ай бұрын
My grandma lived to 105. Ate mostly meat, eggs & bacon every morning, and a Snickers bar almost every day. She'd joke that the Snickers was her secret lol.
@georgejohn9893
@georgejohn9893 8 ай бұрын
@@David_Hartshorn amazing, go figure as they say.
@trelligan42
@trelligan42 8 ай бұрын
This is great news for athletes both weekend and pro, but what recommendations do you have for us obese people with metabolic syndrome-especially with Type 2 Diabetes-and who can't exercise much.
@limitisillusion7
@limitisillusion7 8 ай бұрын
Consider taking care of your gut microbiome by eating a diversity of carbs and fiber. Not everything is about fueling works and muscle growth.
@waltpayne9348
@waltpayne9348 8 ай бұрын
Fiber, like carbs, are not needed for health. It is only necessary when consuming significant carbs.
@johnp7739
@johnp7739 8 ай бұрын
That's a "plant-based" myth based on assumptions about the microbiome we know very little about. Except in a few tropical areas, practically no one was eating a multitude of fruits/veg year round before modern transportation and refrigeration.
@pizzicatos.7996
@pizzicatos.7996 8 ай бұрын
They would would eat tubers that are full of carbs...
@johnp7739
@johnp7739 8 ай бұрын
@@pizzicatos.7996 Which were tiny compared to modern potatoes and sweet potatoes, very limited seasonally and not always easy to find.
@limitisillusion7
@limitisillusion7 8 ай бұрын
Anyone here care to explain away the longevity benefits of high fiber diets?
@Eric3Frog
@Eric3Frog 8 ай бұрын
For the carbs 24 hours to 30 minutes before training, it would be good to know if the subjects were full of glycogen before consuming the carbs. Or, if they were carb depleted (in ketosis) before the addition of the carbs in the study. I'm pretty sure that subjects in ketosis would experience a training benefit from ingesting carbs before training. Yes, subjects in ketosis can get glucose and glycogen from gluconeogenesis, but I doubt they can get it fast enough during exercise for peak performance.
@SubFlow22
@SubFlow22 8 ай бұрын
Click bait title, big lead up... "but you have to watch the whole thing to find out", now our sponsors.... If its that big of a deal I'll eventually hear in an honest video with an informative title.
@mattizzle81
@mattizzle81 8 ай бұрын
Yeah I appreciate him because he was kinda my gateway to keto. I don't take him that seriously anymore because he waaaay overcomplicates things for content creation purposes. Money ruins things.
@ArcoZakus
@ArcoZakus 8 ай бұрын
@@mattizzle81, "… Money ruins things." Not as badly as not having any does.
@ianhaigh9786
@ianhaigh9786 8 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks! I'd love to see the same thing for medium to high aerobic sports, eg. cycling racing, especially crit racing with repeated 1-5 minuted VO2 efforts..... or perhaps you do a video on carb intake volume and timing for these kind of sports, eg. cycling crit racing, indoor bike racing, 5km run, etc. I fear that medium intensity aerobic athletes believe they need carbs, they probably do, but do they overdo the amount? Especially for masters athletes
@dejaesharp
@dejaesharp 8 ай бұрын
Yea man. It was pretty simple for me. Low carb made me feel like I was sick. Carb it up and burn them off. If you’re not active, you don’t need carbs. You’re on your ass anyway, so it may work for you. I treat lawns, mow them, and can do anything that needs done(Landscaping). That being said, I couldn’t do all that, plus the gym on a low carb/calorie diet. Just listen to your body. I did long ago and never follow fads. Follow your feels. Smh
@anab0lic
@anab0lic 8 ай бұрын
I worked on my feet 8 hours a day as well as in the gym lidting 2 hours a day and did it all on low carb. The body does not need carbs.
@dejaesharp
@dejaesharp 8 ай бұрын
@@anab0lic mine does buddy
@jackieruiz3645
@jackieruiz3645 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like me when I was young and didn’t have random pain strike. It’s a different story now. For some, who were never on their butts all day, they find themselves in a whole new situation. Life is fragile and things change. Therefore, my diet has changed drastically and I’m feeling better everyday without carbs and I can be active again. No hate. You do what makes your body go. Just be flexible if things start to slow down or give you trouble.
@jackieruiz3645
@jackieruiz3645 8 ай бұрын
Also wanted to add that keto can make you feel bad in the beginning. I was sick as heck for two weeks solid. It’s because you need electrolytes, but in a couple weeks or a month, it’s amazing. I never felt better… until carnivore.
@dejaesharp
@dejaesharp 8 ай бұрын
@@jackieruiz3645 couldn’t agree more sir! 💪🏻💪🏻
@tjadams9112
@tjadams9112 8 ай бұрын
I'm just an average over fifty guy, work in a factory, limited time to train, six to seven hours sleep, walk about 10k at work per day but my passion is cycling. I did Keto for a year, lost a lot of weight and yes could still ride my bike but it severely lowered the number of big efforts I could do. Steady state I was fine but I lost all my explosiveness. I brought carbs back into my life and yes I gained weight back but I also brought back my ability to hang on the group rides, gap riders and sprint. This is just me, I'm not a clinical study I'm a me study. Find what works for you!
@UHaulShorts
@UHaulShorts 8 ай бұрын
i karb cycle wit *fruit*
@Mr.Creosote15
@Mr.Creosote15 8 ай бұрын
I carb cycle and I can definitely see a difference in the fullness of the muscle after I eat carbs, especially after a low carb day.
@hangtownranger
@hangtownranger 8 ай бұрын
Right because carbs need more water molecules. So it adds water weight which will fill out muscles, just like creatine.
@Mr.Creosote15
@Mr.Creosote15 8 ай бұрын
@@hangtownranger that's right. It's fluid, minerals and glycogen.
@AliceFarmer-bg4dw
@AliceFarmer-bg4dw 8 ай бұрын
@@hangtownrangerHow is retention in water a good thing? Doesn’t the increase in sugar of carbohydrates cause the kidneys to dump electrolytes potassium and magnesium and retain water?
@hirawstra8edge137
@hirawstra8edge137 8 ай бұрын
Tommy boy, it is not we who have been wrong it is you and you are still wrong, it doesn't matter for you either way, your juiced up, but the fact is carbs build muscle, this is why anyone who wants huge or decent muscle mass eats carbs.
@JasonBuckman
@JasonBuckman 8 ай бұрын
No, protein builds muscle.
@hirawstra8edge137
@hirawstra8edge137 8 ай бұрын
@@JasonBuckman don't be a wise arse, you missed the point made.
@JasonBuckman
@JasonBuckman 8 ай бұрын
@@hirawstra8edge137 I'm not being a wise arae. You don't need carbs to build muscle. You need protein, not carbs.
@hirawstra8edge137
@hirawstra8edge137 8 ай бұрын
@@JasonBuckman ok good everyone don't eat another carb, as we don't need them clearly for muscle gains.Jason has stated folks.
@JasonBuckman
@JasonBuckman 8 ай бұрын
@@hirawstra8edge137 We don't. We need protein and calories. Calories need not come from carbs. There is no essential carbohydrate.
@nhualde3148
@nhualde3148 8 ай бұрын
How could a mountain biker use this information to help with diet while training/racing? Thanks
@blakejech6846
@blakejech6846 8 ай бұрын
"I don't often recommend probiotics... unless ofc I'm paid"
@bredemeijer9648
@bredemeijer9648 8 ай бұрын
Right, it's mostly BS if you're bought by these companies where they make you personalize the product .
@barnold62
@barnold62 4 ай бұрын
So what if you breakup body parts per day and your in the gym 4 to 5 days a week? Just eat some carbs before the workout?
@granjefeTATI
@granjefeTATI 8 ай бұрын
Where can I see this study?
@eldinmujovic8705
@eldinmujovic8705 5 ай бұрын
Man, you have run on Keto for the last 10 years, and now when KZbin has changed its algorithm in a way that whoever says something on Keto will not be prioritized, you say "We’ve Been Wrong About Carbs", yes of course, and we all are idiots.
@gaurivasudevan2291
@gaurivasudevan2291 8 ай бұрын
Will you talk about low carb foods such as buckwheat amaranth etc vs higher calorie no carb foods made with Almond or Coconut flours?
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