"We've come a long way" | Did Halo Wars 2 SAVE Halo's narrative?

Halo Wars 2 is the first Halo game released after Halo 5: Guardians. Halo 5's campaign was considered the worst campaign in the series' history and many believe it single handedly killed the franchise's story. Was Halo Wars 2 able to bring Halo back from "death?" Let's find out!
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[@VEN0M415]

the Jerome and Isabelle scene gave me the old friendship feel that John and cortana used to have in halo 3, and that's whats missing in halo, a strong protagonist with a great companion to help along the journey, and scenes or actions that make us feel like actual spartans, halo 2 did it perfectly with chief launching the bomb at the covenant IN SPACE with ships blowing up left and right while he guided it into the enemy ship, I want more of that, not slow paced drunk punches between chief and locke

[@trallaton]

"For a brick, he flew pretty good!"

[@d30n6]

Venom415 tyere relationship was in halo 4 but let’s not talk about it

[@stevencampbell348]

Deon PlayzGames the Cortana and Chief interactions in 4 wasn’t the interactions of friends, it was Chief in denial and Cortana in acceptance. Literally most of Chief’s dialogue towards Cortana and her rampancy is all ‘no I won’t lose you, there’s still time’ while Cortana was essentially telling John that it’s what’s going to happen, she can’t survive this. Everyone plays this up as actual relationship building but I hardly felt that when I played through the campaign, it felt incredibly off for Chief to be so in denial over what was coming. Sure you can say it’s because he’s losing a loved one, but chief has lost many close friends to him, he’s lost Johnson, and many of his spartan 2 trainees, so it doesn’t make sense for him to be in such denial over it.

[@tolkien6666]

Hopefully in Infinite we can get some of that "strong protag with a great companion" with chief and Brohammer

[@ninjababy3141]

It would be really cool if in halo infinite chief and cortina start working together again to defeat the banished but there is a lot of uneasiness between them

[@failedrevolutionary9497]

Having completed Awakening the Nightmare, I feel like 343 understood that Atriox didn’t have enough screen time to have his character developed, and the way they solved this was pretty smart. Instead of doing a series of melodramatic cutscenes to delve into Atriox as a character, a la Destiny 2, 343 built up his mythos by having us play as two of his underlings. As to his backstory, I think we can look at Atriox as an anti-Arbiter. They have similar arcs; both were used by the Covenant under the guise of being granted a position of honor (Atriox was a Bloodstar, after all) and both were betrayed and swore vengeance. We’ve seen the story before, so I don’t think that we need another iteration just for Atriox.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

Atriox wasn't so much "betrayed" as more of seeing exactly how the Brutes were being used by the Prophets where they would send them on obvious suicide missions that they had to follow or be considered heretics and killed anyway, something that eventually made him rebel against them inspiring many of his race along the way to form the Banished. Vel was forced into being the rule of the Arbiter all because of the first halo ring being destroyed because of a Prophet tried to take control over the entire operation leading to its destruction and the Prophets knew full well that every single Arbiter eventually died something the council very well wanted Vel to be after he had to take the fall for the first halo's destruction so why not kill two birds with one stone by making him be the Arbiter which if you compare it to that of an inmate on death row they are basically one of the same where the armor is more or less just another cell for him until he eventually dies.

[@CommentOnThatOne]

@@cursedhawkins1305 Bruh, oh my god. Just use periods. Please... please. Lordy lordy, just once :'0

[@scynapz]

Wasn't Creative Assemble in charge of the games? So 343 had little to do with the story to begin with. Especially in a spin off title.

[@argo9721]

@@scynapz 343 overseas the projects so they definitely had an impact

[@alexgonzales3899]

That cutter speech get to me every time

[@michaelt3172]

I want more of those speeches tho

[@LxzT23]

i felt motivated as fuck

[@saber2802]

And given the hell we went through, I'd say it fits, when he was giving his speech, all I could think of is the Marines, the common soldiers, people with families that sacrified themselves to help push back doom. I got a bit teary eyed tbh.

[@brucesshipyards744]

I immedietly grabbed my BoomCo Magnum...I don't know why. No wonder Cutter made it through Covies, Flood, and Banished and his soldiers aren't traumatized bags of flesh.

[@protectionexperts5465]

A love how LNG puts pic from other game of how UNSC fight in the past in Cutter's speech was MORE intents currents

[@TheActMan]

Nice video, dude! Thought Halo Wars 2 had a pretty decent story, just thought about how Blizzard sold 3 different campaigns with Starcraft 2. While this was a move very criticized, the games/story actually turned out pretty well! So hopefully the campaign DLC for Halo Wars 2 can feel as full as the Starcraft 2 expansions

[@inkedseahear]

Starcraft's "DLCs" (technically they are but I like to treat them differently) each took a massive amount of time to make, each time changing the narrative and adding new units, drastically changing the Campaign and multiplayer. If you look at the Campaign you can tell it is very different from the multiplayer, while Halo Wars 2's campaign felt like they just simply copy and paste the multiplayer game modes into the campaign with maps. And Starcraft 2's campaigns actually told a full story! Wings of Liberty had a story consisted of different mission arcs and selectable missions, and it told the story of a weary rebel commander, fighting his way to defeat the evil Dominion, saving colonists and making deals with anyone to keep his rag-tag army running. Ultimately reuniting with the Kerrigan. Which it left off to Kerrigan. Looking for her revenge of Mengsk, reclaiming the Swarm, killing anyone and doing anything to complete her goal of her own revenge, even if it means killing millions, losing her humanity. Where she finally finished the job, waited over 2 decades. Then left it off for her leaving to fight the ultimate evil. Which left it to Artanis, wanting a different goal of reclaiming the Protoss race, but in the wake has to defeat the same evil Kerrigan was hunting. And thus ending the trilogy. And then the off-game mechanics, with the credit system, tech lab, evolution missions, and Spear of Adun abilities. Unit collection with special upgrades, character dialogs Halo Wars 2 was a good try, but comparing it with Starcraft............

[@Model_BT-7274]

how are you not verified?

[@TheShapingSickness]

I'm hoping the Banished campaigns will have cinematics as well. More Atriox kicking ass please.

[@radicalatheist6798]

Blizzard.. even though SC2 is way toned down from the ultra epic opera that is SC BW, it's still epic af. Blizzard just know their RTS, they're the master, the most successful yet in the genre. If Halo wars can become anywhere nearly as good as SC it might just save 343 from all the shitstorm.

[@justsomeguywithprimusapoth5927]

The Act Man are you acting as the actor who acts as the actor for the acting male

[@23Revan84]

I agreed with everything you said about HW2. What is missing is the military professionalism and respect which Red Team shows. Newer spartans are just bleh, emotional and mostly doing what ever they want. Like Palmer disobeying Lasky on trying killing Hasley, to do Lasky a favor. Really? Johnson nor MC would never do such a thing. Red team has depth and veterens, and have their opinions but soldiers first. Spartans were the lucky charms of the UNSC, if you see one you know things will turn out well. Now you get hundreds of Spartans who are just idiots with spartan abilities and being power rangers.

[@LateNightHalo]

I actually think its the opposite.. Bungie showed us a stereotypical military that wasnt very accurate.. that being said, Bungie was following the "Sometimes you just need to give your audience what they THINK they want" rule. Bungie could have given us a very realistic, professional Military but they opted for a fun/cartoony one that provided a more fun narrative for everyone

[@KubusSc7]

Bungie made their characters epic. 343 is making the characters blant, typical american, unprofessional.

[@23Revan84]

KubusSc7 Agreed, lack of characters in Halo 5 just ruined it.

[@23Revan84]

LateNightGaming - Halo News & Entertainment Agree, I should have out my comment towards that direction. Just saying Spartan 2s were more epic than Spartan 4s. It just show in H5 vs HW2.

[@KubusSc7]

Halo 4 was perfectly fine story wise, because it gave us so much MC and Cortana interaction and dialogue, one cna easily ignore all the negatives of that game. But in Halo 5 it's apparent that the dialogue, the writing, the characters, completely suck ass, big time. They are dumb, they are arrogant, they have no depth, they are all the fucking same. Replace the names of every Spartan 4, they are all the same. It doesnt make a single difference. And that is what they did to red team...they transformed professional demigod Spartan 2s into generic Spartan 4s, that are just arrogant soldiers who have no idea about anything but think they can do everything even when their asses are kicked big time.

[@teddybeddy123]

One of the good things about Halo Wars 2 is that it restored professionalism to the UNSC. Anyone who knows the military knows how professional they are. For example, go listen to the recordings of the actual Apollo 13 crew when they had the explosion, that's how people who are in the military react under pressure.

[@Fingolfin_the_Warden]

That's one of the main gripes I have about the Disney Star Wars films, that the Resistance and for that matter the First Order just don't act in the professional manner a military organization should

[@pseudonymousbeing987]

@@Fingolfin_the_Warden The first order is intentionally the way it is. It's made up of arrogant literal children of the empire, officers high of the stories of the empire, thinking that although the old empire failed, they are cutting the right path. They, this new young order of kindapped children and actual children of imperial officers, represented by Hux most prominently, are inexperienced, incapable and not comparable to their fathers, steely veterans. They haven't been engaged in any real conflict, they have just gone round colonising the outer rim, and haven't fought a single war. In TLJ we get the old main officer admiral dude on the dreadnought who is utterly pissed at Hux's stupidity but goes out like a man glaring at his impending doom and in episode 9 (mild spoilers from marketing material) allegiant admiral pryde played by Richard e grant looks to be an older officer who will bring greater threat to the first order in the same way that Palpatines return will mean Kylo is not the true villian, ie greater more intimidating old threats are being brought in. The resistance isn't a military, it's a tiny garrison with like two squads of ships in 7 and 8. Would be nice to see a fully fledged armada battle though with greater scale between a big galaxy holding first order and big galaxy spanning resistance. Which the teaser trailer has shown with and old imperial destroyer in the backdround to what looks to be a large scale destroyer battle with starfighters.

[@wallamazoo01]

Beyond that, we have the colonists in the Revolutionary war, whom lead by General George Washington, had pomp and circumstance tied at the hip with their courage and bravery to keep fighting against nature and the British. They punished soldiers who acted out of line, and kept a professional stance even though they were rebels against the King. Washington knew he was also working with a bankrupted army, and himself wasn't even paid to reconcile debts to his command. He went mad many times, but always worked out the matter with trusted cohorts and knew he could not do everything alone. Washington had a weakness for anger - this is the blaring issue with Halo 5. The characters are empty, they hold no emotions. Soldiers have weaknesses, it's history back home, a secret they hid from the recruiters, or events they experienced as warriors that shocked their system so hard they are living every night in the same boots they wore at the moment of trial. We HAVE to keep this message, we HAVE to keep hammering 343i even if the trailers for Infinite are really awesome - there is so much room for error on their part in keeping with Halo 5's story. They know they would take a risk just tossing that entire story to the side and start renewed - but the risk is in keeping with the mistake so much they keep making mistakes. The fans don't want 343i to fail, we want a good game. There are many elements of Halo 5 that are fun. It's okay for 343i to change the formula of the combat cycle, as long as they do it with loyalty to the fanbase. Many people say they don't like to sit back and shoot, but that's how I play a lot of the time. If I were to start my own channel and do my own playthrough, you'd see that I prefer to be a camper/boxer rather than the complete badass everyone makes the MC to be. I play a MC who is cautious, over-prepared, and honestly has anxiety that was never addressed when he was a child turn super soldier. Slapping the boy and beating the fear out is only a bandaid. Still, the MC has to stay strong somehow, as he is an inspiration to all the other soldiers who have so much more to lose. 343i Has so much to lose. They have the fans of the Halo series to lose.

[@Blockistium]

Professionalism? Did you play Halo: Combat Evolved?

[@TheJhouston]

@@Blockistium Yes, you obviously didn't. The marines in that game were more than their out of combat quips.

[@whit3139]

Im not afraid to admit... i haven't played Halo since Halo 4, and dont intend to until i see a more UNSC/Marine based Halo story come to surface. I always loved the idea of being the Spartan that all the marines looked to. You would often hear marines chatting between themselves in Awe of how amazing you were when you arrived. Halo 3 and 2 did a great job of doing that... "When i asked for reinforcements... I didnt think they'd send us a Spartan..."

[@Kazaam818]

WHIT so because NPCs don't feed your ego anymore, you are gonna diss halo? Gtfoh

[@monke12354]

Hornet's Nest in Halo 3 did a great job in this, as well as the level with the first Halo encounter

[@lordwhoopi9132]

Kazaam818 Well I mean halo is a power fantasy at it's core. It's better than people moping around, and being ungrateful assholes.

[@mariokuschel00]

So play halo wars 2

[@AnyHeroBlake]

@@Kazaam818 it's called immersion. You're supposed to be the pinnacle of UNSC and ONI technology and training as a Spartan. Halos 4 and 5 removed that.

[@Dexieboi2013]

Spartan 2's will always be Superior to pansy 4's. #fucklocke

[@shadowranger937]

DexterousCobra spartan 4's disobey orders and just do whatever they want.

[@shadowranger937]

yeah exactly potatoninja, it even effects him and shouldn't be such a willy nilly thing as it seems.

[@Slith3rdLegion]

*aureolaification* The numbers of the Adeptus Astartes(Space Marine) of the 40k Universe doesn't take away their badassness, because the likes of the Imperial Guard far outnumber them accross various planets. Also the fact that those same Space Marines have different Chapters with their own backstories, values, and anesthetic. Also the fact that they have to fight Daemons of four different Gods, possesed soldiers, possesed Space Marines, various alien races, and Metal Skeleton terminators holding portable gauss cannons that are usually accompanied by giant pyramid artillery platforms. Not to mention each Space Marine is enhanced with gene-seed of extremely powerful artificially-created humans. Also the higher ranked ones that are crippled to the point where they are unable to fight ones can be put in a Mechanical Walker in order to not only continue fighting, but serve as advisors to their own respective chapters. A spartan is just an enhanced soldier that survived a harsh augmentation process and training that were not even made to fight the covenant in the first place. Aside from giving character to the few Spartan II's that were left on books, what else could you do with Supersoldiers that are only made special by being superior than the average soldier and scarce? Certainly not spam the fourth generation of them all over the Infinity and turn them into a group of idiots on power armour. So much for the well executed iconic super-soldiers of a long-running franchise!

[@alecjohnson2864]

Potatoninja 32 But Chief isn't a Spartan IV

[@alecjohnson2864]

Potatoninja 32 Oh fuck typo! I meant he isn't a Spartan IV! Let me change that lmao

[@SpartanK4102]

I love that you call HiddenXperia a good friend of yours. You guys are all awesome!

[@ahaminspace]

This is how we fix halo story's make halo 5 non canon

[@happycrack69]

A HAM IN SPACE everyone please upvote this ^^

[@Hakohn2511]

that would be a good idea but it is impossible. Omfg, I am just so angry at this story dev they had for Halo 5. So glad he got fired. He is worse even than George Lucas was for Star Wars Prequels (1 n 2 mostly)

[@BlinciLIVE]

Hakohn Disney’s basically somehow one upped Halo 5 with Last Jedi

[@cyansuy3062]

it's all just a dream

[@rbrick3685]

I disagree. As much as I hate Halo 5's story, I hate it when a game/movie industry retcons something for the sake of it's fans. People liked the story, and you'll alienated them by cutting that out. It's like reverting to a save in a game, it's better if you try to work off the mistake. Look at Resident Evil, they kept Umbrella Corps canon, despite it's trash story and gameplay/

[@MasterV235]

Brian Reed is gone!

[@mnrvaprjct]

Ultron 15 nah

[@alecjohnson2864]

Masterv235 Seriously somebody should throw a massive Halo themed party lol this is awesome that Brian dumbass is gone

[@23Revan84]

Masterv235 nah nah, nah nah, hey hey, goodbye.

[@kylegilliam5389]

Ultron 15 I don't know if you're joking, or you're serious.

[@alecjohnson2864]

Storm Completely serious. I hate what 343 has done with the franchise and am glad that Brian Reed has been fired.

[@lllXanderlll]

Jerome jumping out of the ship reminded me of Halo 2 when Chief gave the covenant back their bomb. Which was probably done intentionally do draw on nostalgia, which I love

[@ShiningDarknes]

Turns out Jerome flies pretty good for a brick too.

[@arandomelite5448]

im more confident for h6 after seeing hw2

[@iijumperi8711]

So a very thin story and no real ending? ...

[@ofkfdjdjfk7574]

II JumPeR I No the potential we have now with the spirit of fire and the banished being involved

[@Model_BT-7274]

same

[@xyro3633]

More like it completes the story.

[@SonGoku-hr5kz]

343i never made halo wars 2

[@LateNightHalo]

hopefully the audio is fixed :) Thank you all for the support you give by sharing these types of videos and liking them

[@NinoNak]

LateNightGaming - Halo News & Entertainment where's your /10 rating?

[@SawyBawy]

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[@LateNightHalo]

I would give it a B/B- It isn't flawless but as ive said.. right now baby steps are important and Halo wars 2 is making a good first couple of steps

[@shitguy7615]

LateNightGaming - Halo News & Entertainment are you excited for the new mass effect game.

[@LateNightHalo]

FrancoB42 you dont need to watch me if you dont like what i have to say 😂

[@MrSpartanspud]

About the point with Red Team seeming so badass I have to agree. Red team made me start fantasising about being a Spartan more after we had to play as Locke. And yeah. Spirit of Fire is like the old school UNSC. Their experiences teach them they have to fight. Because if they don't they will all die. The UNSC now won the covenant war and they have a bunch of new toys and tech but they are to afraid to lose it almost.

[@zebfirehd9102]

well you just finally ended a war 5 years ago now you get caught up in 1 you don't even understand what is happening. I don't think you would want to lose until you understand your lost est

[@kenkaneki3873]

One of the most annoying things for me personally has to be the fact that not only was everyone so casual about the ark and halo rings but also the fact that the characters already knew information that they shouldn't know just like that. Like atriox ship name was never explained by anyone. They just knew it's name. How? Why? Why was Anders so casual with hacking into forerunner tech and sentinels? Why is it so easy for her to do that?

[@LateNightHalo]

Isabel briefed them all on the state of the galaxy and the rings, you can hear marines talking about it in Mission 3, Anders was well versed in forerunner Tech during Hw1 so I didnt find it that crazy that she was able to gain access to the Ring's controls. Plus her dialogue during it "I really hope this works" suggests she still doesnt know EXACTLY what to do :)

[@kenkaneki3873]

LateNightGaming - Halo News & Entertainment She briefed them, yes but details like the ship's name where never mentioned. They just knew it when the mission came up. And yeah I get she had her time with the tech in hw1 but still it seems of a tiny bit too easy. "Jerome take your dudes to three points on the map, gimme a few seconds and boom you got yourself the best sentinel on the ark." It's just more of a personal issue I had with this since a few games seem to do this "Every character knows what the player knows without getting the info ingame" thing. But overall I liked the campaign. But still a bit too short for my taste especially since atriox had such a lack of appearence in the game and then the game just pull this... Boom. That's the end.

[@LateNightHalo]

Ken Kaneki 343 still needs to cool it with "forerunner tech is super easy to use!!" Haha but after halo 5 i would say halo wars 2 is WAYYYY better about it XD

[@kenkaneki3873]

LateNightGaming - Halo News & Entertainment Agreed. I mean I liked 5's missions gameplay wise but that's about it. My first thought when I completed the campaign was: "..... I waited so long for this just to wait another potential 3 years for a proper campaign....?"

[@LateNightHalo]

Ken Kaneki oh man i HATED halo 5's missions. It was unbelievably on-rails and restrictive

[@CRAM079]

I'm sorry but the end of halo 5 with lasky running from the guardian was the best choice he could have made. And is made better by lasky stating"until we can find a way to fight" is they stayed and fought the guardian, there wouldn't be any hope really. Also lasky is one of the few REALLY good characters in 343's halo.

[@LateNightHalo]

ベラグ ジョン the writer didnt need to write Lasky into a situation where he needed to run away.. imagine how much more epic the ending would have been with an entire UNSC fleet standing by to hold off the Guardians? Lasky ran away because the writers put the unsc in that situation

[@RedMangabey]

I agree, he completely ignored the "until we can find a way to fight" from Lasky, who made the best decision, if not Infinity would get EMP'd and everybody would have died. In Halo Wars 2, Isabel said "oh my God, Atriox is the most badass unbeatable brute that destroyed the Covenant OMG..." and he got his ass kicked in the entire game. Realistically, Spirit of Fire wouldn't het a chance against him. There's also a moment when Atriox talks to Cutter and he says something like "Atriox, shut the f*ck up, I have heard enough". The narrative paints the villain as a great treat, but contradicts it during the entire game, turning Atriox into a dumb typical Marvel villain.

[@analogpibe]

I know, so now we can blame the writers for reach and the noble team being in a bad situation and get killed easily?

[@GeneralFirepol]

+Uly Vermillion His point is that in HALO the UNSC hasn't once just rolled over to a foe (before recent games). They have always fought to protect their people and homes. By showing Noble Team dying for Reach they helped push that into the minds of the players. In the new games though, as soon as they full outnumbered, they run.

[@analogpibe]

He is talking about Halo Wars 2 but in the same game even the Red team (3 spartans II) needed to run from a single brute named atriox

[@warriorofshadows443]

God, Halo Wars came out 8 years ago. I feel old

[@Hakohn2511]

Halo Combat Evolved came out 16 years ago. Quite old, aren't we?

[@cia387]

I where born before halo 2

[@mastervidxad5883]

Did Halo Wars 2 bring Halo's story back from the dead? No, not really. However, it is a massive improvement​ over Halo 5's story. But still not better than the Original Halo Trilogy/Halo 4/Halo Wars 1 story.

[@LateNightHalo]

We still have a long road ahead of us but Halo wars 2 made good first steps!

[@mastervidxad5883]

LateNightGaming - Halo News & Entertainment True.

[@rafaelv3118]

Master Vidxad 58 I like it more than reach, odst, and Halo wars 1

[@MisterHotrod92]

The best that we can hope for is that 343i finishes up the stupid evil Cortana and Created story in Halo 6, and moves onto something actually good and interesting.

[@HorsePuncher]

I like to think of Halo 5 as the left side of a positive parabolic curve, Halo Wars 2 as the center, and what comes next as the right. Of course, I could be wrong and the whole graph turns out to be a negative x cube, but I just realized I'm acting like a huge fucking nerd right now, so I'll stop. Edit: I just realized mathematically, what I said would imply that Halo Wars 2 is worse than Halo 5. I will now remedy this error by saying I meant the derivative of a positive parabola and negative x cube. All is well once more in the universe.

[@PackHunter117]

I hate how the killed off Decimus so early in the story. Personally I wish he atleast got slayed in a cutsene by Red Team.

[@USminecrafting101]

IKR!!!

[@supergodzilla5650]

PackHunter117 Well they still have Atreox and Shipmaster.

[@will_of_europa]

Like the Arbiter in HW1

[@PackHunter117]

@SuperGodzilla 56 Yeah but still.

[@shadowranger937]

fuck no, doing everything meaningful through actual gameplay is what all fucking videogames are about, and things like halo 5 that don't do that are just failures.

[@DeathMoofin]

"Humanity: out-gunned, out-manned, but never running" uh, Cole Protocol? Still liked the vid though :P

[@MrFullCrumb01]

Cole Protocol is about capture of shipboard AI and preventing the location of Earth from being discovered.

[@naus6081]

Reach, vast majority of the entirety of the war...yeah humanity was out gunned, out manned, and MOSTLY running. Also as much as I like Halo Wars 2 story, Cutters speech and isabellas character are just such cringe.

[@Tehonlyspennaaah]

Isabel as an AI builds up the whole Jerome/Isabel mythos. I really hope they take the mantle from Chief and Cortana (pun intended).

[@imafishbish1346]

Splenduh I personally think isabelle has no character looks ugly and does not nave the same charm as cortana

[@blacklightredlight2945]

@@imafishbish1346 Because she's not nude like cortana?

[@CustodianArchra]

I think thats why I don't like the newer games as much.. Also its why I loved Reach so much. I think what made Halo such an emotional and powerful story was Humanity's struggle to fight against and enemy that has greater numbers and technology than them, but despite the odds they continued to fight. I feel this is lost in the current Halo games though Halo Wars 2 seems to be bringing back that idea a bit. With the whole plot device of the Spirit of Fire being the lone ship against an army.

[@carlosspicyweiner6293]

I'm very worried about halo 6, 343 wrote themselves in a hole here, and no matter what halo 6 has too much going on for it to be handled well (unless it's the longest campaign in the series). Too many character, too many plot points, too much important information being absent from the games and being lost in the lore. There is just too much going on for it to be addressed in one game. But, that doesn't mean it can't be a fun story. If the old art style returns, if arbiter and chief are handled well, and the stakes feel real it can be a fun halo 3 esk story.

[@TheLonelyGod4]

Carlos Spicy Weiner well, hopefully it has a long campaign in order for it to be good, but it wouldn't profit fast enough. That would be extremely expensive for that stuff, and, you never know. They could write of 5 as non canon, but I doubt that.

[@AeonsOfBlight]

Getting rid of the writer saved Halo. (maybe)

[@chiefl3062]

Aeons of Blight they actually did

[@germanempireball617]

Chief l30 lol

[@chrissonofpear3657]

Frank O'Conner is still narrative head, from what I can tell. Smart guy in many things, but may lack focus. Brian Reed was more workmanlike.

[@marco117sw]

Awesome tribute in the end. and good use of metaphor.

[@marco117sw]

LNG, I've been meaning to ask you, what do you think about having theater mode added to HCEA, H2A, and maybe even HW and HW2 campaigns? i think it's something that is well deserved for the two anniversary games seeing as H3 and Reach had it for their own campaigns y not these two. as for the HW 1 and 2 games, i think it's something good to exploit and experiment with. wdyt?

[@Heroprime364]

"The story interferes with the RTS gameplay" *laughs in StarCraft 2*

[@LateNightHalo]

Heroprime starcraft 2 was such a story disappointment :(

[@inkedseahear]

LateNightGaming - Halo News & Entertainment How so?

[@Heroprime364]

LateNightGaming - Halo News & Entertainment *John Cena* "Are you sure about that?"

[@vatz1151]

Heroprime (Even though command and conquer originally defined rts games but whatevere.)

[@Heroprime364]

Ian Hill Starcraft 2 has gameplay much more similar to C&C than Halo wars

[@Captain-115]

God I hope blur directs the cutscenes in halo 6

[@Hakohn2511]

so do I, more or less. The cutscenes look beautiful when designed by blur, but it feels quite odd to switch from the game's graphics to blur graphics. All Halo 1 - 5 don't have this problem at all, using the game's graphics.

[@marcwittkowski5146]

Just seeing the cutscene at the end of this video gave me goosebumps all over again...

[@TheCman5015PLPro]

Captain Cutter's speech always gives me chills

[@cowerdnerddespacito9518]

I shed a tear every time I hear Cutter’s speech but showing the pelican wing memorial at the end of halo 3 pushed open the floodgates

[@fablethefox]

of course Jerome did that. hes a fucking spartan-II

[@thegamingsnake7198]

Halo actually has something with the " halo rings " to do now wow (; halo 5 and 4 and reach had nothing to do with halos !! "Halo ring "

[@thegamingsnake7198]

Also what you said in the end of what the new UNSC is bad and the old better and that cutter agrees is perfect for a return to what UNSC actually should be like also for a extra ... I want halo 2 odst troops back

[@TheLonelyGod4]

The Gaming Snake well, 4 had something to do with the rings... technically... Requiem was a shield word designed to be protected FROM the rings... and a mission takes place on one, so it has a small part

[@Dexieboi2013]

I think halo 3 had a similar issue, the halo ring didn't show up till the very end, and halo 4 and 5 had brief glimpses of a halo. However, it would be weird and kinda silly to call halo 4 Shield world, and halo 5 as just Guardians.

[@Ebsalom]

Halo Reach was a prequel when nobody knew what the rings were, though the information required to get to the Halo was unknowingly taken from the Forerunner artifact beneath Reach, and was later subconsciously used by Cortana when plotting escape coordinated for the Autumn, which lead humanity to Halo.

[@vatz1151]

The Gaming Snake Reach is an exception because it's the prequel.

[@HawkTheRed]

Captain Cutter for president 2020! Also, that ending (to the game), THAT ENDING!!!!!11

[@tehflamingninja1997]

TheRed Hawk vote to get that car for 3k

[@bmarci1996]

2520 maybe :D

[@Mk12dexxa6]

Usually I love your videos... But this time you just made one that is epic!!

[@luigimrlgaming9484]

8:25 Isabel being an A.I makes sense as she could hide from the banished in various equipment, And also the Spirt of Fire needed a new A.I, so they got the new A.I

[@shitguy7615]

Halo 5 story is so bad I personally don't know how to fix it , can it be fixed . How do we get it back on track .

[@lostguardian4637]

Shit guy By introducing the Flood or bringing back the Didact.

[@59hawks]

Shit guy That is totally do able, First you make something happen in the campaign to make Lasky decided to not run and fight, cortana which sparks the rest of the UNSC to start fighting back hard. Second you make the Osiris team intresting however not in game, by either books or promotional Video's about the spartans in the team. Buck is the prime example, because he is the only one on the team that is in my opinion is good, and that's because he got his character expanded. Third in game you resolve the shit going inside of Master Chief's head, you have his closest friends, get the team to have conversations about what exactly is going on with Cortana's actions and how they are affecting the Chief, and eventually make him do some bad ass shit to show he is back. Finally, you have a Finale showing all of the Spartan-IV's deploying from the spirit of fire to fight Cortana's Army, showing everyone what they are supposed to be, an Army of of the UNSC's best from every division with Spartan Armor, and Genetic Enhancements. You then have Blue team making it to Cortana and have them realize that it is just a rampant Cortana that split off from Cortana that made it into the Domain and not the actual Cortana. after a fight with her, You are shown a Epilogue that shows that the UNSC is back to the Militaristic and stubborn way it was, with some kind of mention on how the Spartan-IV's lost almost everyone and is only 200 people strong, and end with Chief in 1. a grave 2. A new set of Mark-VII armor that doesn't look like Halo 4 or Halo 5 armor, ready to take on the next threat to humanity

[@MisterHotrod92]

The only thing I can think of that would make things alright again is if we find out that "Cortana" is actually being controlled by the Didact.

[@halowatcher9391]

They would be ruining a plot twist older than Halo if the Ur- Didact was controlling Cortana. At best I can accept Abaddon, Gravemind, or Joyous ( anticipated anglicanization of the name Joyeuse). Even then it hurts the story in my opinion. The problem isn't that she is an antagonist, its that the transition wasn't executed well. She either had to own the betrayal, or her reasoning had to be made clearer and more salient. Shes an A.I and honestly she could a large combination of audio-visual information to make a salient logically cohesive argument, regardless of whether or not this first step in her Pathway into Darkness was a genuine betrayal or a philosophical disagreement. Nobody in the video game space has done what Bungie has done - what Bungie and 343 are doing, and even if i'm the only non employee who sees their hand - and i'm not, I for one am thoroughly excited to watch this storyline play out towards its Destiny. I honestly believe that one day, when we can play every game in the story in order, like a Marathon, it could easily be considered a contemporary alongside the greatest works of geekdom ever. It could be a culture defining Myth. If they abandon the Cortana betrayal storyline it will inevitably be brought up in a retrospective somewhere and there will be ten times as much outrage, frustration and disappointment.

[@59hawks]

Halo Watcher that's why they tried to make Cortana's actions seem more belieable, it's not the actual cortana, but a rampent fragment of her. So while the argument is still stupid, and unsupported in anyway, the fragment is solely acting on Emotions and not reason.

[@SciFiGuitarist117]

I've discussed this with other users on r/halostory, and I believe many of the problems with the story could have been solved by adding another 2 or 3 cutscenes to the mid section of the game. Personally I like the HW2 story, but I feel it kinda disappears halfway through, then reappears at the end.

[@AlexDerBar]

You just sent chills down my spine with that awesome ending. You're awesome dude thanks for making these kind of videos.

[@SonakaG]

So far two full videos in, and so far I'm loving your channel, apparently I was already subbed, so I went and got Notified.

[@PackHunter117]

THIS IS A GREAT GAMEMODE I HAD IN MIND. I'd love to see a game mode where for the UNSC you either play as either a marine or army soldier and basically you have many different classes with unique loadouts like the sniper class with a sniper and magnum and the scout class with a DMR and magnum for example. As you progress through the game mode you unlock more classes such as the ODST unit, and there would be multiple classes for the ODSTs you could unlock the longer you play the game and the more kills you get like 500 or 800 for example. The ODSTs would spawn in in drop pods and the marines or army soldiers would get dropped off pelicans, elephants or Behemoths. The Legendary class would be the Spartans. They can duel wield, hijack vehicles and ect which all other classes can't do or at least do as well as the Spartans can. They would be the final class for the UNSC to unlock and you would need like 5000-10000 kills to unlock. Which would make them rare but extremely powerful and dangerous on the battlefield. For the Covenant or Banished you play as a Grunt. The Grunt has different classes you can unlock the same way you unlock the UNSC classes. The classes for the Grunts would be like the heavy class with a fuel rod and the minor Grunt with a plasma pistol for example. The Sniper class would have Jackals with Beam Rifles and Focus Rifles for the sniper class and the scout class would have Carbines since Grunts don't snipe. After unlocking all the Grunt classes and the 2 Jackal classes after thousands of kills you unlock more Jackal classes. The classes would be like the Jackal minor with a plasma pistol and the Major with a Needler for example. After unlocking all the Jackal classes you can unlock the Skirmisher along with many Skirmisher classes. Oh and the Jackals and Grunts could be customized to look like the ones from Halo CE - Reach or the Halo 4 - 5 ones. Then the Legendary class would be different per map but would consist of Elites and Brutes. The Elites would either get dropped of in Spirits, Phantoms, or drop pods. Brutes the same way.Once you unlock the Brutes and Elites the same way you unlock the Spartans you then can unlock different classes for the Elites and Brutes. Rangers have Plasma Rifles, Plasma Repeaters, Concussion Rifles, Carbines, Needle Rifles, Concussion Rifles, or Focus Rifles for the Elites and the Zealots would have either Plasma Rifles or Repeaters with Energy Swords for example. The Zealots could be Red or Gold depending on if you want them to look like Artifact Hunters or Religious (regular) Zealots. The Brute Minors have Spikers with Spike nades, and the Brute Stalkers have fire nades and Maulers for example. The Brutes can be changed to look like Halo 2A, Halo 3, Halo Wars 2, or Halo Reach. The kill streaks to assist the team would include airstrikes with UNSC and Covenant or Banished bomber squadrons which would have Broadswords and Seraph Fighters. The UNSC and Covenant or Banished could call in heavy units like more Spartans and Hunters to assist them (yes their AI but with lots of health and set on either Heroic or Legendary difficulty). The UNSC can call Pelicans in to drop off Warthogs, Mongooses, and Tanks. The Covenant or Banished can call in Ghosts. When they call in Locusts, Revenants Spectres and Wraiths the driver spawns as either a Brue or Elite depending on the vehicle and the Wraith gunner would remain as a Grunt. All the other seats and gunners would be Elites or Brutes. The UNSC for airsupport would call in either Hornets or Falcons either with nade launchers or machine guns. The Covenant or Banished could call in Banshees or Vampires. They can also call in a swarm of Drones. Also if its Banished they can call in Reavers and the other Banished vehicles. The Covenant healer class would always have an AI Engineer with them and the UNSC would just have medics. The maps would support 64 players.

[@rutabagacold]

what if Cpt. Cutter became the new Fleet Admiral of the UNSC. Fleet Admiral James Cutter sounds pretty good!!

[@ShibaInuMochi]

Every time I hear Cutter's speech, I always get shivers.

[@lyokofan212]

perfect ending to this video haha. Love the vids LNG, you and HiddenEx are my favorite halo youtubers.

[@OpposingReflection]

I must say. Imagine after halo 6, cause I doubt the series will end with halo 6. I must say I enjoy the pair up of Isabel and Jerome. I could see the two of them becoming the "new" chief and Cortana, should chief and Cortana's story be concluded in halo 6. Thoughts?

[@OpposingReflection]

Woops. "Isabelle". lol

[@nizzadien_3317]

Yeah dw, halo 6 is a “spiritual reboot” and adding to that, its the beginning of a new era of halo, but still a direct continuation of halo 5, my point being several games are going to follow.

[@TKNelson0169]

I got triggered when he said bungie characters cough ensemble studios cough.

[@LateNightHalo]

ODST Nelson "bungie era characters"

[@TKNelson0169]

LateNightGaming - Halo News & Entertainment ensemble studio era, but I'm just nickpicking

[@LateNightHalo]

ensemble may have made the game, but it was in the "Bungie era" of Halo.

[@TKNelson0169]

LateNightGaming - Halo News & Entertainment Ok

[@anthonyalonso175]

great videos as always good job

[@achillesfoot363]

It has been quite some time since I've watched a video by you. Still great to watch

[@ZakRas]

Nice little touch styling your segment titles like the cutscene and area titles from the games.

[@rookie4582]

The Great Journey waits for no one. Not even Halo.....

[@lancercaptainspadez6306]

dude when cutter presses the button, always gives me chills so badass

[@AlexSanLyra]

Brilliant video! Especially the ending, with the speech being directed at Halo 5. Just priceless.

[@neighborprism6653]

Wow Halo 5 story is way better than every Bungie storys said no one ever

[@Quickscopinpanda]

this was really good halo wars 2 might not be the best but it's definitely a good start... I'm honestly excited for halo 6 and think it could potentially be one of if not the best halo ever.great video LNG

[@emanuelmartin7090]

i think is the first video of yours i've ever since and really like it, one more subscriber! :)

[@helldragonreginald]

Great analysis, especially at the end, where the new context gave me goosebumps

[@Model_BT-7274]

halo wars 2 was so fucking good imo

[@gjtrue]

I actully like Locke and do want to see 343 make more of an effort to develope him as a character. I really see him and John-117 being at bad odds when it comes to dealing with Cortana in Halo 6. And as a side note, I'm VERY interested in seeing how the UNSC can stop The Created and the Guardians. :-)

[@CallumMcCartney]

I like how you left the subtitles in the bottom left. Made me think of the classic chapter names of H1-3

[@Tatokun92]

Man you made me cry with the ending with flashbacks and cutter's speech, good work! hope this saves the franchise of halo to make a return to this saga, Thankyou =')

[@urplatz]

LateNightGaming I think you were a little hard on the Spartan IV project. Could they use some revision? Sure, but you gotta remember that A LOT of people loved the first cutscene of Halo 5 and were proclaiming, "this is how Spartans fight in canon!" when it was released before the game. However, I think that's going way too far to shut down the entire Spartan IV project. People were way hyped when they heard that Spartans were coming back, and honestly what the hell is Halo without Spartans? They aren't gonna make anymore Spartan IIs, so the best route to keep the feel of Halo (whatever is left of it) is to maintain the Spartan IV project. They should definitely keep Chief as the main protagonist, but I think the Spartan IVs absolutely have their own place in the story.

[@ManiacalMill]

Sorry to necro. Maybe it's an issue with my own perception, but I never felt that the originals were a straight power fantasy (unless you play on Easy). I'd always understood and appreciated the previous lore description of the Spartan IIs being slightly superior to Elite Minors but slightly inferior to Elite Majors. Sure they're more powerful than regular humans, but they're still at a disadvantage against the upper echelons of the Covenant forces, and must struggle and persevere to succeed. Seeing Spartan IVs, who should be (at least) slightly inferior to IIs, completely roll over Covenant (remnant) forces as if they're nothing, outmaneuvering and utterly crushing high ranking Elites as if they were Grunts on Easy, was incredibly off-putting. I haven't played Halo 5 yet, I had lost interest after Halo 4, and wasn't a fan of some of Microsoft's corporate direction (like removing local co-op in an effort to increase sales of the game *and* consoles). I also wasn't particularly interested in the XBone at the time, I didn't think Halo alone was worth a new console. Every time I consider buying H5 to give it a playthrough, I remember how dissatisfied I feel seeing those opening cutscenes with Osiris, and I question whether I'd really want it. That type of over the top power fantasy doesn't fit with my preconceptions about Halo.

[@AnyHeroBlake]

No one was claiming that. Fans were stunned, in a *bad* way. We nicknamed the Spartan 4s fucking Power Rangers.

[@basvs3906]

I straight up hated that first cutscene. It was a slap in the face with the statement: "I AM AWESOME!". Spartans just straight up slaughtering hoardes of enemies in seconds. And then the real gameplay begins... It just felt so damn wrong...

[@unheardr0b0t69]

I would watch this entire video, but I haven't played the game yet.

[@TheCitedAviator]

Unheard R0B0T i dont even have an xbox one :(

[@23Revan84]

Unheard R0B0T go get it

[@unheardr0b0t69]

TheCitedAviator It's for PC too.

[@TheCitedAviator]

Unheard R0B0T dont have a pc

[@TheCitedAviator]

Unheard R0B0T i prefer consoles, please dont bother me with any light-seeing crap

[@spartanaviation]

That last part made me so happy! Looking forward to Installation 01 btw

[@DarshanBeloshes]

Woah! That was one hell of a halo video which I found more fascinating than ever.. I am completely agree with you regarding halo wars 2 is bringing back us the halo that we always wanted.. Keep making videos like this!

[@samuelmagic22]

Imagine if Cutter pulls off a Coup d'État against the Unified Earth Government and takes over, bringing back the old UNSC

[@germanempireball617]

samuelmagic22 and Jerome becomes master chief!!!!

[@bjmajmtwentysixteen3806]

i LOVE isabelle she is so refreshing im si sick to death of cortana

[@RebelOfTheNorm242]

Benj Milson the cortana we knew is dead. idk who thia new bitch is

[@halowatcher9391]

Nyx, mother of Darkness.

[@freealexlee]

"this new bitch" is a microsoft employee

[@MygunsJammedify]

Benj Milson Meh Isabelle was OK, I still prefer Serina.

[@Model_BT-7274]

RebelOfTheNorm242 there is a theory that the cortana from halo 5 is her corrupted fragments from halo 4. just look at the cortana betrayal cutscene, right after she says good bye john she just walks away with not emotion because she was faking the whole thing kinda like when she was calling everyone by their real names and calling them family and chief immediately knew she was faking so she could freeze him

[@jrokur551]

Gosh. That was great. Amazing video!!! 👏👏👏

[@attanocorvo9185]

That montage at the ending dude, love it!!!...

[@cappedwinner5558]

I tired of people complaining that Halo 5 ended in a cliffhanger, last I checked Halo 2 ended on a much MUCH bigger cliffhanger.

[@-Apoptos-]

CappedWinner555 at least halo 2 was able to introduce characters

[@H4WKB13]

so was Halo 5. Everyone that says otherwise wasn't paying attention

[@chrissonofpear3657]

Only one character ends on an outright cliffhanger this time.

[@EvylServalz]

i really REALLY REALLY REALLY wanna cuddle atriox so bad, i want atriox to cuddle me and hold me with his arms, i can't stop looking at his cute face and cute bara body without wanting him to be my boyfriend. i just wish he was real and want him to love me man he's one of the biggest qt's since the arbiter commented this b4 and will again, i want him to be my bf anyone feels the same?if so, hes mine >:3

[@EvylServalz]

if some other non-human character surpasses atriox (wont happen nothing replaces my love!!!), most likely will be sangheili, and it can't happen with that ugly ass 343 design they look retarded

[@alecjohnson2864]

xboxfanandres ... furry

[@LocalSlav]

xboxfanandres What in the fuck

[@yuhboyogteddy6691]

I think late night gaming does his videos better than most halo KZbinrs. After watching this video it made me really excited to play Halo Wars 2 again after putting it down for a couple months. Great work man 💯 keep up the super dope video's. I appreciate it

[@symbiotic_apex1179]

that montage hit me real hard i love rewatching this

[@thewestwinger3855]

Why did you delete this video?

[@LateNightHalo]

Audio was WAY too low on the last video

[@thewestwinger3855]

I have a theory, please consider it, the end of Halo Reach, the voice, Cortana/Halsey was not talking about Noble 6, she was talking about Chief, remember the theory you and others had that Halo 6 they may return to Reach? Chief dies on Reach, and Cortana/Halsey talks about his courage in the end of Halo Reach, think about it. Plus the ship seen at the end of Halo Reach, looks like the new UNSC ships seen in Halo4/5, they are white and blue. It all makes sense

[@whyarewehere3893]

The Unapologetic Leftist The forward into dawn? and it's about novel no doubt

[@whyarewehere3893]

onto*

[@thewestwinger3855]

No, I'm talking about Halo Reach the game

[@chrishardin9774]

Halos worst enemy is its community

[@LateNightHalo]

Chris Hardin i think halo's worst enemy is poor communication from the community. They know what they want but they need to articulate and not just keep babbling about how "343 killed haloz"

[@chrishardin9774]

LateNightGaming - Halo News & Entertainment your absolutely correct, that's probably the reason Halo 5s story turned out the way it did

[@claydodson7541]

343i* :p

[@Mr66crowley]

Let's not blame consumers for Halo 5's direction. The team at 343 shouldn't be reliant on feedback alone after all, but their own creative process or lack there of in this case. It's stupid to say the community created Halo 5, sorry, just is.

[@hitomarusensha]

Actually this is kind of accurate the reason Halo 5's story is the way it is is partly because backlash from Halo 4 made 343 scrap the original plan which many see as much better than what we got.

[@cloe307]

Finished playing Halo Wars 2 a few days ago and all I kept thinking was, damn, this is the type of story they needed for the main line Halo franchise. How cool would it have been having the chief and Cortana battling the banished

[@theequalizer694]

"I see family, courage, and a thousand heroes who swore to fight their way through hell before they’d ever turn their backs and run. And where you see one old ship… I see home. And that is always worth fighting for! If we don’t stop Cortana now, we leave Earth at the mercy of a monster. So no, Captian Lasky. We won’t be running anywhere today.”

[@Legion617]

I...I kinda care about what's going on with the Created storyline...not so much H5's story itself but the set up? HW2's set up as well? Endless possibilities...

[@rafaelv3118]

I actually liked the guardian at the end of Halo wars 2

[@thatoneuser8600]

Lightsaber, same, I think 343i can do some really amazing things with the Guardians if they put enough effort into halo 6's story!

[@Slith3rdLegion]

I wanna kill one as a Boss in Halo Wars 2.

[@ss0766]

Lightsaber Yeah it doesnt have that ugly ass face

[@SpaceWoof04]

I cringed when I saw it

[@rafaelv3118]

SubZero Wolf too bad then because it was really awesome

[@astrosuperkoala1]

HE"S FRIENDS WITH HIDDENXPERIA????? That gives me a new appreciation for you two

[@LateNightHalo]

Lol we are really good friends

[@Sbittner]

Don't have halo wars 2 yet but that speech sent chills through me

[@teddybeddy123]

Anyone notice how the worst parts of Halo are all the parts that 343 added or changed?

[@LateNightHalo]

teddybeddy123 ehhhh bungie screwed up a LOT back in the day

[@chillisback9217]

343 still fucked everything up. Halo 4 and 5 ....so bad

[@WonderMePartyStrip]

And there are people still saying that this game will save the whole franchise. Facepalm.

[@PepeSilviaPennypacker]

WonderMePartyStrip Its beyond saving.

[@Model_BT-7274]

how are you still wasting your life on halo videos just to hate?

[@WonderMePartyStrip]

BT -7274 Why are you wasting your time replying to me?

[@alonelyperson6031]

Because he want to defends what he believe is right and I support him.

[@Wuunderboy]

WonderMePartyStrip it can

[@fastfeetsmix3823]

That was very well put together and raised some excellent points, there is still hope for the Halo universe yet

[@badasschile01]

very nice review, and I really have appreciate the ending of the video. maybe there is still hope for our Halo after all. Cheers!!!

[@davidvanderven]

Please acknowledge the damage 4 did to Halo narratively and to the community.

[@LateNightHalo]

David Vander Ven it didnt damage halo's narrative though, it only added to it and told a very good story

[@InnocentFlowers]

No, It turned a science fiction into a pure fantasy setting, and then you've got the cliches, cartoon villainy, and just bad characters. Also, as a minor peeve, it got rid of the multi-national UNSC and made it all-american.

[@TheDuke659]

completely agree. H4 was awful.

[@superbeaner4428]

InnocentFlowers I disagree. H4 may have had the worst multiplayer but the story was fantastic. Unlike Bungie who was too afraid to delve deeper in the book lore 343 sank their teeth into it and I loved it. Unfortunately H5s story HAD potential but for those unfamiliar with the background lore were left confused on who most of the characters were and I disliked Cortana being evil.

[@kevythekevlar]

LateNightGaming - Halo News & Entertainment I don't know about that. Halo 4 I thought was the worst halo story of all time (at least until Halo 5), and as emotional as it was, it was still extremely throw away. Every character aside from Chief and Cortana is a joke. It overall felt generic, and the gameplay of the campaign itself dragged down the narrative of the campaign. Also a lot of stuff made no sense, at least in my initial play through. Halo 4 was the beginning of the end, and Halo 5 sealed the franchises fate

[@PlazmaZ5]

Bungie Apologist. I remember when people couldn't stop hating on them. Now everyone apparently loves them *rolls eyes*

[@LateNightHalo]

AssaultPlazma i always loved them.. am i still a "bungie apologist" or do you have any more lazy dismissals of people's real criticisms with halo 5's flaws

[@PlazmaZ5]

Most of Halo 5's criticism is valid, however it has IMO reached a point where in people just simply nit pick the dumbest most irelevant things ever (See Act Man's Halo military scifi shooter vid for an example) It's just the fact most of the generally public couldn't stand Bungie up to Reach, but now everyone apparently reveres Bungie as Gods!

[@palarious]

Halo 1&2 were absolutely fantastic. 2 was far superior on story and combat. Halo 3 was too short, with some flaws like the endlessly annoying gravemind level and combat that was mostly pretty great, but cut a few things from 2 that were great. Reach was the beginning of the cheese factor. You had these Spartans acting like Caricatures. Seriously, sharpening a knife on his helmet? This isn't GI Joes. The gameplay was pretty good, but the loadout crap was adding COD to Halo. 4 was the beginning of that ridiculous storyline. Oh man, the acting was so crummy. 5 was more of the same, except you had to buy an entire separate system if you even wanted to play with a friend. Game by game, they've done the best they could to kill Halo and everything that made it unique and different. I'm not a big fan of Halo Wars, but at least the series didn't f up the art style.

[@CaptAmerica300]

@latenightgaming I actually really like that Atriox doesn't appear as much. it makes atriox feel more like Cutter, in the background looking at the war more than the battle. It brings to mind the trailer we got where both sides are deploying everything they have and Cutter and Atriox are walking towards the center of it all to face off. It conveys the sense that this is HIS army, his brutes, his ships, his etc etc etc.

[@bmansk8520]

great vid man. rly cool.

[@riekopo7638]

Please don't compare Red Team to The Avengers. That's why we got the goofy Team Osiris. And it just pisses me off to see a Guardian in Halo Wars 2. Fuck the Guardians that 343 pulled out of their ass. I don't know what you're talking about with Cutter and the UNSC. I think you're reading way too much into it. I thought that opening Cutter speech was corny and cringey as hell.

[@hjalmarrsviakappa9666]

Sam Martin Yeah, there Gears of war 2's "Prescots speech" is way superior.

[@LateNightHalo]

Sam Martin Youre welcome to disagree

[@Surprised_Chicken]

phattUncleDave's when I first heard it I got chills and shivers down my back.

[@bmarci1996]

Sam Martin you should buy a cream for your butthurt

[@hjalmarrsviakappa9666]

Surprised Chicken Yeah rigth? Now that was a true speech!

[@cryptonian101]

Placing that cover of H5 on Isabelle's face during Captain Cutter's speech ... 👌😂 priceless

[@DamienJones77]

M8, your ending sequence to this video was gold.

[@SNOWSOS]

Personally I want to see the Spartan 4s show signs of weakness compared to the 2s. I know just how to do it... the flood. You remember back in Halo 4 those cool Spartan flood models in infection? Boom, make the mass produced hated S4s get infected and fulfill a similar role to the Elites in Reach (hard hitting,fast and hard to kill). That way these seemingly endless armies of Spartan 4s are being overrun while adding interesting new enemies to fight.

[@DylanBacon60]

I'm so happy that Halo Wars 2's story wasn't bad. I thought it was gonna suck after experiencing Halo 5's story, but man I am so happy that I am wrong.

[@colepeltier8472]

I just want to say you have an amazing way of communicating your points and this video gave me goosebumps, especially the last segment when you talked about the story. This video gave me hope that the halo that I fucking grew up playing is still alive under that dead pan 343 surface.

[@RAMZAVFX]

Just replayed HW 1, I miss having cutscenes in between each mission...

[@AngmarCosplay]

Cutters speech gives me goosebumps EVERY time

[@tnhemi4909]

I really hope that cutter ends up calling the shots eventually, the man is just to awesome a character, that badass captain that just really sets the tone for the events to come. Man I missed that.

[@endercryptid8431]

I love when Cutter switches the ship into combat mode during his speech. It's like "you pressed the kick-ass button! CUE THE MUSIC!" XD

[@patrickcamp7502]

This highlights something I only recently noticed. I was playing a match of halo 5 warzone (not firefight) and I respawned to attack an enemy held base and as I exited my base I ran by a marine who said "wow, a spartan" and I thought "ever noticed the 11 others running around?" had this been in like halo CE 2 or 3 I wouldn't care much as it would make sense, the master cheif was basically the last spartan and a beacon of hope for surrounding forces. As the covenant cowered in fear while you killed them the marines saw you as a legend, it made sense. You were the last spartan. But now as 12 spartans run around the field they still treat it like it was a rare experience, like it was in the Human Covenant war, but now it should be a daily experience. Halo wars 2 really returns me to halo 3 as hearing a marine say "Wow, a spartan" actually means something, because as far as they know there is only 3 spartans left.

[@S1erra107]

That ending just felt like a good old dose of intergalactic "fuck yeah" I love it