We've Never Been This Stuck! 1995 Range Rover Classic Takes On The Mud at Tumbleweed Ranch!

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In this video, Tommy meets up with Range Rover Classic owner Jamie to tackle our most difficult pond off-road course at Tumbleweed Ranch.
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[@cartopia6161]

Your course needs some trail maintenance. Ruts are getting too deep, and some of those dead and fallen trees make the course too small and less trail line options. Unless you want to turn these episodes into how to recover vehicles, do something soon.

[@OleNasty79]

Love seeing regular guy 4x4s as opposed to performance shop purpose built trail rigs. That era of Range Rover still looks great too.

[@trentallmon5445]

The interesting thing about this course is that just like most trails the more vehicles that go down it, the deeper the ruts, holes, and mud gets. essentially make the course harder over time 👍

[@andrewgee241]

Which makes comparisons to other trucks that ran the course meaningless.

[@trentallmon5445]

@@andrewgee241 yeah, which is kind of a bummer, but does make interesting content

[@acetylcholine3]

I was just tihinking that same thing. A couple of those obstacles started out as almost impassable, and now... I wonder if there's a plan to adjust the course or just leave it as is and keep embarrassing everyone's vehicles.

[@AndieBlack13]

Yes, of course...at 17:04 , we see an alternate "line" that should have been taken to bypass the ruts in the road....any sane/experienced driver would have straddled those ruts.

[@johnkemple]

@@acetylcholine3 That is the point of the videos, to embarrass the people who are silly enough to show up. they should name the series fails by Tommy

[@chanceym6000]

he needs to keep in the throttle mode consistently instead of backing off, it takes the traction control like two full seconds to engage

[@Thanos.m]

Yup I have a p38 Range Rover which has a similar traction control system and as long as you keep it slow steady it will figure out it out and pull you out it's actually very good

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

And that one only has it in the rear and I don't think it's as aggressive but it still helps. In that extreme of situation even staying on the throttle doesn't help as much because it doesn't grab hard enough and the brakes are all wet

[@shaolin224]

That horn assisted steering is hilarious

[@trailrunnah8886]

So who else is on Marketplace looking up range Rover classics? Lol. I've actually always loved these, the styling of these i's just so iconic.

[@FreakyT333]

This one really showed how difficult those mud ruts have gotten. Couple more rigs through there and your going to have to fill some in a bit for anything less than a Jeep on 37’s…

[@JustinKingOffroad]

one trick to open diff'd rigs most people don't know about... ride the brake pedal about 50% while giving it gas through the goopy stuff and you can force the diff to transfer power to the wheels with traction.

[@zellodavis8453]

Comment just reminded me of my dad doing this.

[@JustinKingOffroad]

@@zellodavis8453 it works surprisingly well

[@ExcellentEngineering1966]

The better tactic with a classic range rover is to use its momentum to keep it going, he was going to slow. As soon as one wheel came off the ground he just stopped dead.

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

Yeah but that one has early traction control in the rear. But even then holding the brake when it's that wet doesn't help a whole lot maybe a little but not nearly as much as on a dry surface with wheel spin

[@geoffreydeweese4493]

There was something just so joyful about this episode - just guys having fun and laughing. No comparisons, no reviews, just pure joy. Wonderful! *(Not that I don't also enjoy the comparison and review videos!)

[@manuelias86]

Can't wait for the Hummer EV to attempt this

[@mikefoehr235]

It can't even drive on a normal road without serious issues.

[@smarticus6384]

They might need a dozer on standby to take the mule's place.

[@manuelias86]

@@smarticus6384 🤣🤣

[@JoshNormandy]

lol, the hummer can't even make it off the lot!

[@deejayimm]

Some people just do not understand the concept of momentum.

[@frh-freerangehuman]

The best part about Tumbleweed is that you share it with the masses. These are some of your best videos. 👏🏻🙌🏼

[@whos-your-mate]

A classic, a v8 AND a Range Rover 👌

[@donniepitts1646]

Fun video to watch. I've never heard "long torso" so many times in one day😆. The electronics may be tired but that horn worked well

[@josevega2399]

For a second there i thought I was watching “Matt’s off-road recovery”. 😂

[@bossgeekknight]

Give it the Beans! Lol, Of all the Tumbleweed videos so far, this one was by far the most fun to watch.

[@thedirtlifesupreame]

Everything you are saying about this vehicle isn't quite right. It has a 3.9L V8, No center locking Diff, its a BW transfercase. The fan switch isn't broken the fan resistor is worn out. This guy could fix the seat switches for about $10 with some contact cleaner.

[@donniepitts1646]

The 1995 Range Rover had 3.9, 4.0 and a 4.2 available.

[@thedirtlifesupreame]

@@donniepitts1646 4.2 was only available in the LWB. The 4.0 was used in the models sold in 1996 as heritage Range Rover classics. Which were just left overs from 1995 when LR released the P38 Range Rover

[@donniepitts1646]

@@thedirtlifesupreame Thanks for the update but I got my information from the Internet and we all know it has to be as true 😆

[@elbekko]

Technically that *is* a centre locking diff, just automatically (by a viscous coupling). TFL cares too much about the "omg it's going to break" narrative when it comes to Land Rovers, it's really tiring.

[@thedirtlifesupreame]

@@elbekko no it’s not. Anyone that has wheeled a VC vs a Diff lock knows. There’s no comparison to knowing when you are locked in. The front and rear axles are getting 50/50 power. Not sitting there trying to get the viscous oil to heat up and hope it will stop slipping. Not to mention when those VCs fail, they finally really do lock up and destroy the transfer case.

[@ryzen397]

I honestly miss truth or dare on that old mountain you guys used to do the tests on over tumbleweed.

[@TheMeanmarine13]

That's what brought me to this channel a couple years ago. I do miss seeing them go up truth or dare. I'm sure it's much easier to have their own property and not have to travel but it still is a bummer not getting to see it. I'm hoping they go back next spring and run some rigs up the mountain ⛰️ 🙏

[@ryzen397]

@@TheMeanmarine13 me too! I feel like tumbleweed is just not hard enough or it doesn't show it on camera well enough. It doesn't make me excited to see a video like the old truth or dare did.

[@Cloud30000]

A lot of the trails have been closed to the public, causing the remaining trails to get over crowded and unable to make the videos since it would block traffic. The farm was a necessity as the trails kept closing, unfortunately

[@backwoodstherapy]

Everyone commenting on the rig and meanwhile I'm sitting here like "did I sleep 4 days straight? Taming tumbleweed on a Wednesday? Is this a fever dream?!"

[@cr88]

Still one the most capable when with the right hands. And you can cruise smoothly in highway. Miss the 90s SUV...

[@poppyneese1811]

Man this was so cool and so proud of the old gal!!! Friends ask me why’d I go from Tacoma to F150, I smile and say and say COMFORT😂🤣😂🤣

[@Aj1981Mr]

Just sold ome of these and bought a 1980 land rover series 3, 88inch. The range rover was brilliant off road, loads of grip.

[@charlesfranklin4805]

Idk why it’s so satisfying watching the sticker going on

[@-Jethro-]

The deep mud portions of your course just keep getting worse: They’ve gotten too deep for most street legal vehicles. Maybe time for yearly trail maintenance.

[@jakubstrumillo]

air down those tires to 12psi before tackling offroad and all issues could dissapear. Range Rovers after 1987 didnt got center diff lock. They got viscous coupling from Borg Warner and chain driven transfercase. And traction control they got since 87 too. Also Tommy, Range Rover vere before Disco or Defender. Defender and Discovery are based on Range Rover chassy and suspension.

[@petelattimer6808]

correct to a point. the defender was an evolution of the Series 1, 2, 2A and 3 Land Rovers, (evolutions of each other) came before the Range Rover.

[@kenyongillespie8652]

The Kawasaki is a great little small tool to have! I think the Range Rover Classic is allergic to mud. It’s amazing what lockers will do for a vehicle.Great video!

[@Thanos.m]

With the original air suspension and traction control as long as you keep it slow and steady on throttle its amazing what these old Range Rovers can actually do

[@patrickirish8110]

Awesome! There's no question that a rig has to be pretty darn capable off-road in order to get through your course.

[@rogermellie8068]

Keep hold of it dude, it's a soft dash not many were built and are getting very rare. Fully rebuilt easy 40k plus $$$. Take a look at what they're selling for in the UK 🇬🇧 👍

[@Lladnar1978]

I love how this turns into a recovery video! Keep it up! Loving the tumbleweed ranch videos.

[@johnkemple]

Tommy sure loves to bash the rovers. They don't all blow head gaskets. They don't all have electrical issues. 123,000 miles isn't that many for a range rover. That model year came with a viscous coupler, not a locking center diff. If it has a locking center diff It must have been installed by someone else. My 94 Range Rover with 223,000 miles has traction control on the rear only. It has a lot of advantages over Tommy's two door jeep. It can haul more people and additional gear. it rides better, on and off the road, and can tow more. Not to mention they are easier to find in the parking lot. People wave at the Rover every time I take it someplace. The Range Rover classics do require a lot of maintenance, which is almost always never done. This vehicle probably needs a radiator soon or he will have head gasket troubles.(i guess the radiator was done) If the guy brought this 95 to me, I am pretty sure I could have the back windows and the seats operating as well in a couple hours or less. That vehicle repaired with a moderate restoration would bring 30k. It would have a tough time against newer vehicles with locking diffs, sway bar disconnects, all wheel traction control and tires over 32 inches. But for a vehicle with that old of a platform they are pretty awesome. Finally I think he would have been fine had he had more experience with the rover and learned he needs some momentum. Low range 3rd gear.

[@roguewave1060]

Hahaha, love it how he keeps on banging the horn. 👍

[@tylersrubar6451]

Gotta love old classics and talking about what works and doesn’t just makes for a good laugh!

[@V8AmericanMuscleCar]

Great video guys! If you don't fill this hole a bit, the next vehicle will have even more fun. 😁

[@spartanchirho]

My dream truck, color and everything!

[@fernandoroldan2288]

That Range is beautiful 🤩

[@psychologicaltirefire8190]

Paid 3k for a 97' Grand Cherokee Laredo with the 318 Magnum and a NP242 swap with only 181k miles. Everything works and it runs incredibly smooth. EXCEPT the A/C must be out of refrigerant and the ABS doesn't work. I honestly bought a ZJ Grand Cherokee because it had the same general shape as this Range Rover does. I knew I'd never find a nice example of a Range Rover like the ZJ I got. Mine has 318Magnum V8, NP242 T-Case, Dana 44A rear axle, Dana 30 front, working limited slip rear end, and the Up Country Suspension Group what gives you a 1" suspension lift and full belly of skid plates. Inside it has 10-way power cloth seats, auto-dimming mirror, 8-speaker InfinityGold stereo, power windows, power heated mirrors, and rear defrost. Rust wise being a Minnesota car, it's not too terrible. Just gonna hit it with some rust reformer to help knock it back a bit and throw some black enamel paint over it.

[@mikefoehr235]

That Rover did pretty well ALL things considered.

[@davidmilhouscarter8198]

20:50 A “hold my beer” moment.

[@henryurbina2555]

Loved it!!! One of the best episodes. Really enjoyed it!

[@steveb6287]

Well Spent 5k Impressive!

[@TheMeanmarine13]

You have to love a guy that says "that was fun", while his radio is flying out and his arm is covered in mud haha. He's a Good sport 👏 👍

[@ExTrumpet]

I miss my '94 classic!!

[@davidmilhouscarter8198]

5:38 When I was a little kid and just started driving, I wanted an aftermarket stereo system in my vehicle but couldn’t afford it. Now that I’m a “grown up”, I can afford to upgrade but I choose not because I like the factory head units.

[@The_Samsquantch]

I just noticed the Canyonero badge on that Range Rover. 🤣

[@terryivanov9009]

Craziest video in the mud so far, great job TFL, this one is the Smiles per gallon, thank you.

[@douglasvieira1990dv]

Great content and tommy great work keeping the mood stable through all that. That Range Rover looks good doing it too

[@LWRoad]

That was a great episode, so much fun, thanks for bringing us along

[@equaliser2265]

I got 190000 on mine, perfect no problems. Just change engine oil regularly every 6000 miles.

[@pacificwarrior7679]

"its a little drier today so we may have a chance at this thing" *immediately buries front end

[@dalejones4322]

Super fun video. I look forward to all the cool rigs that will go through there in the future.

[@tomasodesign]

Iv owned 95 lwb 4.2 ,76 Trailduster v8 with lockable full time and 75 Scout ll with a hybrid part time 4x4 ...of all the RR had the best system to connect power to traction. All but the Trailduster(35" mudd TSX) used the same super swamper tire tread pattern.

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

For those that might not know a center differential just means that it is all wheel drive and you are putting it into regular four-wheel drive when you lock that. So when someone says triple locked they are basically saying regular four-wheel drive with front and rear lockers on something thats awd nornally

[@RileyLawrence8]

Did he air down at all for this? I think 10psi would have made all the difference

[@jessaphillips2846]

It wouldn’t make much difference without lockers

[@RileyLawrence8]

@@jessaphillips2846 you can't exactly install lockers on the side of the track inside of a bog hole, but you can air down. Airing down would help equalise the traction, limiting the one wheel spin. There's hardly ever a situation where less tyre pressure can't help, even just a little. Especially in mud

[@jessaphillips2846]

@@RileyLawrence8 Yeah but I’m saying he should’ve had lockers on it before he ever took it out to this farm

[@elijahbrooks8589]

That truck did fantastic.

[@js2407]

I haven't watched the video yet but after yesterday's upload I thought the thumbnail was the GMC Hummer burnt to the ground until i took an actual look 😆

[@jeremyteveliet4759]

That RRC doesn't have traction control, it just has a viscous coupling in the transfer case.

[@Ryan57Garr]

My dream car! 😍

[@tearstoyoureyes4764]

Idea 💡 when the range rover first got stuck, me being a Farmer I would have started using the manual handbrake to lock the rears up a bit to send more power to the front.😉 keep up the great work... 👍

[@barneybarret6088]

With the centre difflock engaged, the front and rear axle are locked together, so braking the rear axle would also brake the front axle.

[@AlexLR]

It has a transmission brake on the back of the transfer box so you cant do that. It means that both axles are braked when engaged, useful if you stop on a steep slippery hill.

[@allterrainrandy2587]

You can see the e brake drum at 7:45 with the rear driveline coming out if it.

[@scottkeeney1]

That’s a great looking truck.

[@PaddyBoy644]

Cool car, looked like he needed to drop 20psi out of those tyres though!

[@colinhoward74]

The LSE ( which that one is) was the first air suspension Range Rover , they were terrible , the air suspension would even colapse on the showroom floor in South Africa , you could not even give them away , they were great for the coil sprung car's sales though

[@philipgrice1026]

Removing the air suspension results in less departure angle clearance, even with a 2-3" lift and makes the ride poor but still far better than any US truck. Next time, let some air out of the tires. Oh, that's right, some idiot removed the air suspension so you don't have the ability to have a pressure coupling to air the tires back up. Doh! The turning circle is good for a 4x4 but can be even better if you install 1" or even just 1/2" spacers just on the front wheels. It improves the Ackerman effect and reduces the turning circle significantly. Oh, and next time get some real mud tires, not the Mickey Thompson desert style tires that make a lot of noise on the highway but don't work very well in mud. Narrower OEM steelies with real mudder tires and air suspension raised up would not find that course very challenging. The British know mud. We have a lot of it. Oh, and a better 'spotter' would helped too. A couple of times he gave some bad advice that resulted in the front wheels sliding instead of rolling, slowing forward progress and resulting in the wheels digging deeper, making further efforts even worse. Besides that, a good video.that demonstrates how a 25 year old Range Rover that has not been kept up can still mix it up with newer US trucks and would be even better without the 'improvements' that don't help mush, if at all.

[@petermiddo]

You ALWAYS want to turn traction control off (If you can) in mud or soft sand. There's normally a button/switch, or pull the ABS fuse, and most vehicles will deactivate Traction Control with the vehicle in 4Low

[@theldaniel170]

Not Land Rovers my dude, specially not this older Range Rover.

[@paulbunyon6324]

Nice AMC door handles.

[@hawaiiansoja]

"So he Jerks me?" LOL

[@carlosdonestevez7532]

Dude kept trying to pick some never before used line into the tree line for some reason.

[@JDMEXforme]

You guys need to start filling In those mud ruts. It's way too deep.

[@creepyjeep7873]

Maybe you should outfit the kawi with some traction boards instead of using stones and a hi-lift Jack ( you could use as a come-along) awesome vids guys

[@rider6.0]

Where I'm from all we got is swamp and mud lol looked like it could of made it threw but the driver dug themselves in lol

[@adelwolf2395]

Borg warner is great on asphalt and sand tracks, but insufficient on mud and difficult stages. Viscous clutch transfer case lags when locking .A 1:41 ratio LT230 changes everything :)

[@x5or]

Great shot Tommy 👍

[@coloradomallcrawlers]

Hey TFL, you guys make videos on all kinds of stuff, how about a video about what’s happening in Moab. We have till October 21st now. Please watch CORE’s video to see what’s going on in case you are unaware (the link is in my most recent video (Moab trails threatened), but I don’t want to link it as I think that’s poor form). CORE is a Colorado organization that works to keep off-road trails open.

[@WW-wf8tu]

Another RR. Still looking for a 5th Gen. TRD OR to run that course. Approach, departure might be an issue, but I bet with its capabilities, it could run the course as effectively as a Rubicon or the Bronco did. As long as one does not keep trying to start from the disadvantage of being IN the mud when giving it the gas to go up the hills.

[@tayne5009]

I saw the thumbnail and thought it was Tyler Hoover burying another broken Range Rover.

[@Offshore1977]

Love Tommy’s shirt

[@pklh1214]

Love the extra minute and a half of footage ! 28:00

[@philguzman6932]

I was having flashbacks to the Camel Trophy.

[@josephnyarkoboateng1112]

LC 105 would be interesting to see

[@dirkdesouza5975]

Land Rover/Range Rover, the original lux 4X4 and the creator of the truly lux off road market segment.....

[@josephlewis9803]

The more I watch the more I want to try I have an 87 gmc ready to go

[@caifan444]

Always have loved those boxy Rovers just as much as the boxy land cruisers dream chill build

[@Far2hip]

3:00, nice try being covert camera man, lol. At least you ducked a little, LMAO!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@mitchstein288]

That Land Rover could really benefit from some lockers, at least rear. Also, I don't think those Mickey Thompsons were doing him any favors. They didn't seem to be clearing out all that well. The course seems to be getting harder as more trucks make passes through it. Kudos to Jaime (sp) on putting his Land Rover through the course!

[@carnage1088]

Your viscous coupling is toast... Had one of these in borneo relatively new... The vc could easily handle mud

[@albertlira7443]

I love me a classic range and love seeing them live their purpose

[@hitman74]

Anyone here go off roading and encounter mud like this?

[@farookismail6470]

TFL finally found some "offroad" now get those shiny new trucks down there. Nice video enjoyed it, thank you.

[@GTFORDMAN]

when he was rescued by the side by side that camera man was standing exactly where the Range Rover should have been aiming for!

[@franksmith8210]

At 11:15 all he needed to do was to drive out and they talked him in to getting stuck in lol.

[@BorellaFamilyAdventures]

This is hard to watch. Tommy set this dude up for failure then he isn't use to a vehicle with traction control. Stuck is stuck, he was only making it worse.

[@bendmacmanufacturing2744]

Looks like the course is getting more challenging

[@TylerCNatureTy]

I got a jeep on 37s that I’d love to take out here. Dual locked with mud tires. Seems like a fun time out there. Y’all are less than an hour away.

[@rael6_4wd]

Great vehicle, tough course. And getting tougher with every vehicle that goes through it.

[@jasonquaile2492]

Get yourselves a few snatch blocks if you're going to winch like that, makes a huge difference

[@rzu7120]

The jungles of Colorado!

[@DocGTO]

The recovery on Tommy's was a little tough. Due to the angle the rope was pulling the Rover down into the ground. Good move on the rocks.

[@_._._._._._]

The true predecessor of the new defender

[@williamsweet2253]

For 5k you guys are having way to much fun😊

[@davidisdivad]

Should dropped the tire pressure down to 15psi

[@warbuzzard7167]

This is The Great Secret when offroading.

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

Yeah they introduced TC on that generation only for the rear