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Super Eyepatch Wolf: The Unreality of Pro Wrestling, Reaction Part C
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[@jamescook5783]

Last time… Airier: “Roman is going do something awful to make people hate him isn’t he.” Me: “ Oh buddy, you’re gonna wish he did.”

[@Frostbite08]

The elimination of Daniel Bryan in the 2015 Royal Rumble wasn't to set up an "avenger" story. It was literally WWE management, namely Vince McMahon, deliberately spitting in the face of his own audience. Immediately after Bryan's elimination. the wrestler Golddust entered the match. Golddust's intro video that plays on screen as he makes his entrance starts with the words "Shattered Dreams". So imagine seeing that, in order. Bryan, the chosen champion of the people, is eliminated. A few seconds pass. The words "Shattered Dreams" appear in giant golden letters. It was intentional.

[@Airier]

... Not surprised. Just disappointed. 😞

[@philgoad5587]

True, but it was also WWE having just enough sense to know that if Roman had eliminated Bryan, it would have been even worse. They thought the crowd would get their booing out before Reigns entered. And boy were they wrong.

[@Saltyoven]

They then further spit in the fans faces by proceeding to eliminate everyone else the audience cared about in the worst possible way. Easily, by two way past their prime performers. And yes people were boiling mad. Their streaming service lost 300,000 subscribers and the crowd rioted after, preventing the performers from leaving

[@dexterwilliams2520]

Vince McMahon's WWE in the 2010's was so needlessly combative with its own audience that even the telecoms industry was like "Christ, guys, tone it down a bit". No wonder people thought AEW was a good idea at the time.

[@shadowfragment]

42:20 No, that's a legitimate wellness policy and a legitimate violation. WWE for the most part takes drug use very seriously due to the numerous wrestlers who have died young deaths because of their history of drug abuse. It's not perfect, and sometimes they bend the rules/show favouritism to certain wrestlers, but it's a real thing. EDIT: in particular, WWE overhauled their wellness policy after the tragic death of Eddie Guerrero and the horrific murder-suicide of Chris Benoit and his wife and son.

[@oldeskul]

Thinking about both of them makes me sad.

[@Saltyoven]

Overhauled drug policy for Eddie, and took concussions more seriously after Benoit

[@oldeskul]

@@TheDaltonCashShow This was when Vince still controlled the company, right? If you were on Vince's special list or did certain "favors" for him, you could basically get away with almost anything. Case-in-point, Shawn Michaels throwing around photographers, cameramen and other ringside people because they got in the way.

[@shadowfragment]

@@TheDaltonCashShow Dude, knock it off with the "illegal drug" crap. It was marijuana. She wasn't smuggling heroin. WWE removed marijuana from their drug testing policy a few years ago because it's been largely de-criminalised. Marijuana is now considered an acceptable substance for their performers to be using.

[@RavenAurion]

​@@shadowfragment That and even before it was removed from the list I'm pretty sure it was Randy Orton that said wrestlers that ised weed got paid a bonus specifically to cover the wellness policy violation fines.

[@ScorpionViper1001]

~45:00 As good as the video is, SEW deeply undersells how much fans hated Roman for being the one who ended up (mostly) retiring The Undertaker. The very next promo Reigns did had him go out into the ring to give what was supposed to be like a minute long speech. For the next twenty minutes the crowd just relentlessly shut him down with boos whenever he tried to open his mouth. There were multiple "Roman Sucks!" and "Go Away!" chants. It was seriously one of the most brutal acts of pillorying that's been done since Medieval times.

[@NothingKingKN]

The skillset to be a proper jobber is actually so elevated that in my opinion can rival or even outstand a normal face or heel. As a jobber, your job is to actively get your shit rocked for sometimes fifteen to thirty minutes per match. Not only you *need* to get hit, but you need to be constantly manhandled, sometimes by stars that aren't at all experts and can actively injure you by accident.

[@singletona082]

the hardest part of being a Jobber is to sell that you are getting your ass kicked Juuuust enough that it feels like you aren't a braindead punching bag that shouldn't be there,

[@bigevil1001]

Jobbers usually get squashed pretty fast.

[@John-Stark]

@@singletona082 I mean, Chealsea Green does a good job being Manhandled like at the Rumble

[@DSshinyMaster2009]

Life long wrestling fan here. The reason why his hair looks so wet, is a common thing with wrestlers cause the arena is so hot, so some wrestlers down their hair with cold water before coming out to the ring, to keep themselves cooled down so the arena heat will not get to them as much.

[@jamesgaston2745]

Roman, and a lot of the samoans in general actually put leave in conditioner in their hair to keep it from getting frizzy

[@vanyadolly]

Most wrestlers with long hair do this just because it looks better. When long hair dries out it just becomes a big tangle by the end of the match, but if it's wet it moves and settles in a way that looks better.

[@superjonh1000]

What's sad is that the fans were asking WWE to turn Roman heel since the beginning of his rejection. We all knew he had some talent and he was legitimately improving, but having him win all the time without "paying his dues", jumping straight to the main event without being a midcarder and also beating beloved and more talented wrestlers didn't help his character at all. Vince was really out of touch back then. And it's weird because guys like Cena and Rock had to turn heels to win over the crowd, because as babyface initially they lacked charisma and were bland, the same issue Roman had. But Vince refused to turn him back heel. They could've done a lot of things different, like having him recreate The Shield with new guys, experimenting with his promos, this time as a heel, make him obsessed about the past (since he didn't change his theme song and ring gear for years after The Shield broke up) and getting betrayed again by his new partners (alluding to Seth betraying him in the past). There were a lot of stories to explore where they could slowly transition him from the quiet strong guy into a loud mouthed antihero and eventually into a full on babyface. He was decent on the mic whenever they didn't script his promo, the main reason he had this enormous rejection was it how was handled. All I can say about that is I'm glad Vince McMahon is not on WWE anymore.

[@kevonlordoftheslimes9084]

I extremely look forward to you getting to the next part. Cause the conclusion of Roman is very worth it and Wolf does a very good job of showing it

[@KairiPrime]

Airier: "I know I'm using Star Trek terminology to describe wrestling and it's weird." Me, a hardcore wrestling fan for over 20 years: "No, that actually makes perfect sense."

[@Unti1tmrw]

Cm Punk’s pipebomb promo was planned. Management knew he had grievances and said to air them during his promo, though they were unaware of how bad his grievances were.

[@ryanbagley3293]

Yeah Roman’s situation here is heart breaking. He was pushed too soon and had almost no choice but to play the roll the company wanted for him to be while the whole world hated him for it. It had to be crazy rough for him

[@Motorata661]

53:44 That's right you should feel bad for Roman but I can make it even sadder with context Roman was not only failing at his profession, but he was also failing at the family businesses, he is Joe Anoa'i from Anoa'i royal wrestling family. Most of his family has been incredibly successful, the Supereyepatchwolf has mentioned The Rock and The Usos but there is many more examples, the Anoa'i family has been part of the WWE since the late 70´s and most of the members have been extremely successful. They are so respected that another wrestler, who is also part of a wrestling family, starts his entrance song with the quote of ``Wrestling has more than one royal family´´ that's how respected they are. Roman have been pushed by WWE in a way that the Anoa'i family hadn't seen since the days of the Rock and he is failing. This is a man who initially rejected the family business and tried to play football and failed, he then came back to the family business and was also successful in a group until he had to stand by himself. So imagine Roman alone trying to make it work with the pressure from the rest of the family, pressure from the company that had put their hopes on him,pressure from the fans who hate him and want the other members of his group to be the face instead, pressure to not fail again, he tries and tries, he works his ass off to become as good as he can be. And its not enough. And a little spoiler for the next video so you watch it faster. It gets worse before it gets better

[@OnyxANZ]

I'm pretty sure "Wrestling has more than one royal family" was directed at the McMahons originally.

[@lugenkresse5825]

I wouldn't call being rejected due to medical issues "failing at football" but ok

[@roadrunneruntd]

I wouldn't even say he himself failed. WWE failed him. Terrible booking choices and a ridiculous refusal to play to his strengths as a character hurt him more than anything he did himself. But I also believe that without all this what have now would not have had as much impact

[@Motorata661]

@@roadrunneruntd I agree with you but thats easy to see from outside, in the situation when you are book like Hogan and Cena and people cant accept you it must feel like a failure

[@tonymarshall3978]

Its the thing I can't wrap my head around the most. I've seen Iron Claw and I know it was not as bad as that but even then you know there must have been members in his family being mad he can't live up, jealous they were not pushed as much, giving advice that dose not work anymore in this new era of wrestling. By all account he has a very stable and loving family but even then you know stuff was seeping through that must have been getting to him

[@markuscriticus8278]

12:05 "Nickleback jokes are the Nickleback of jokes."

[@ALIENjoy]

I don’t want to give anything away, but Joe Anoa’i turned out to be one of the strongest human beings in pro wrestling. I can not imagine many could go through what he did and still be standing.

[@Frostbite08]

42:30 It's a real wellness policy. That "other guy" is one of the main reasons the wellness policy exists. It didn't before.

[@dexterwilliams2520]

I hope you were paying attention to the El Generico vs. Kevin Steen segment. There’s going to be a test. Well, no, there won’t be a test. But Super Eyepatch Wolf may or may not pull a Super Eyepatch Wolf and bring up how that story is relevant to everything else he talked about in the final minutes of the video. I won’t say how, but you do have almost 50 videos covering SEW video essays, so you should probably expect this by now. EDIT: Another thing to remember for when you pick this up again: before Roman Reigns became the most hated wrestler in the entire world, he had publicly talked smack about how he’s "better-looking" than John Cena. And for as nice as Cena is in general, it turns out the man can hold a grudge…

[@berserkerciaran]

I mean, he shouldn't have said that, but he does look better than Cena

[@lugenkresse5825]

That comment was a work and John Cena is, or at the very least was, not a nice person at all. He was pretty much the opposite of his in-ring persona, according to some collegues. Hence the "golden shovel" reply he gets when going off script in the promo you are probably (?) alluding to

[@1KQ_]

Getting worked by Vince McMahon era Roman reigns is hilarious

[@ryanredd4552]

To further emphasize what it was like watching Roman matches at this time, here’s an anecdote from a match I recently rewatched: It’s Summerslam 2017 and the main event is a four way match between Brock Lesnar, Samoa Joe, Braun Strowman, and Roman Reigns. Strowman and Joe enter first and because the fans know that Roman is entering next because the champion enters last, they start booing before Roman’s music even starts. The boos only get louder when Roman’s entrance starts. One of the commentators mentions that Roman was voted 2016’s “Most Hated Wrestler” in PWI (a wrestling newsletter). He is quickly corrected by the other commentator, who says that Roman isn’t hated, he’s “controversial”, meanwhile every fan in the building over the age of 12 is booing Reigns like he kicked each and every one of their dogs.

[@oldeskul]

That era of Roman's career was devastating to watch, especially now with how his career is going.

[@samcarter565]

Shockingly, WWE does have a very serious wellness policy for drugs and concussions. Daniel Bryan was effectively retired for several years because WWE wouldn’t sign agree with doctors who had passed Bryan on his physicals just because they were being super cautious.

[@ajaylivingston1417]

I'm pretty sure a big part of it was "He does a top rope head button and a Crossface. He has a history of head injuries. How do we proceed"

[@ImpactSona]

To give you contex, Ring Of Honor was the 3rd biggest wrestling company in the 2000's after WWE and TNA (Total Nonstop Action), so even if it looked small ROH was a big deal in the wrestling world at the time, Kinda like AAA Baseball vs the MLB. It was one the main places you would go before WWE.

[@John-Stark]

Hell alot of the indie wrestlers that are big in WWE AND AEW right now went through ROH for at least one Match, Punk, Styles, Rollins, The Bucks, Samoa Joe, Sami and Owens

[@colt1903]

You seem to have misunderstood something crucial. You don't have to lift the person's leg for a pin. All you really need to do is put a part of yourself over their body to signal to the ref that you're "pinning" them. They break the pin if they get their shoulder up, or otherwise get the part of you that's ON them, off. So, technically, it's even perfectly legal to put a single finger on someone's chest, and have it be considered a pin that the ref has to count for. To my knowledge, no one has ever gotten that ridiculous, but there are people who pin there opponents just by putting their foot down on their chest and nothing else. Also, that Backstage Lesnar moment really does put into perspective more than anything else how ridiculous the nonsensical hate towards Roman was at that point. When you have someone like Brock Lesnar getting pissed about the shit you're going through and how bullshit it is management isn't the one getting it instead? To the point he just decides to piece out? Yeah, ya done fucked up.

[@Saltyoven]

8:00 for the record, most ladders in wrestling are wood with metal paint on them

[@Fieryxjoe]

In WWE the ones meant to break have wood cores, the ones meant to climb are real ladders. That RoH match used the flimsiest real ladders I've ever seen. They were bending and breaking and they'd hit each other with the broken pieces. They ended up building some ladder contraption and climbing on it and got "please don't die chants" because it looked so sketchy.

[@haroldmc9021]

No hate, but sometimes it's just better to not let the casuals into wrestling secrets like that one, have them think it hurts more than it actually does

[@DragoSonicMile]

Nickelback formed in 1995. Their most recent performance (until some point in the future after this comment is written) was in 2024. So... just shy of three decades.

[@Airier]

😯

[@Ve-om7lf]

As someone who lived through this I remember being at a show with my friends and one of them said that she was beginning to feel bad at the level of boos Roman was getting. I responded that as the audience in the crowd of a theater in the round we were a part of the presentation and as such we had an obligation to the performance to express ourselves, and as people who recognized, because we all did, that the problem was not the person but the character being presented the more we rejected Roman the sooner the experiment could end and the sooner Joe, the person behind the character, would get the chance at something better suited to him. We had to kill Roman to save Joe...and we proceeded to boo the ever loving crap out of him. Having said that, and knowing where both Joe and Roman end up, while the path is painful the results are God Damn beautiful. Redemption is coming...just after more pain.

[@ericgropuis]

That’s not really a good way to look at it, people still boo’d the shit out of him after going into remission and no one saw Joe they only saw Roman. People didn’t do it to save Joe but just to get Roman off of their title and out of the main event picture so he turned into the monster we all created as the Tribal Chief who ruled over us for a long time

[@VeggieGamer]

The great thing about The Rock's facial expression at the Rumble is because he is extremely good at reading and reacting to a crowd. He would never just completely ignore their reaction to him and look happy even though the crowd were booing (though he himself had to go with a short lived terrible Babyface gimmick when he started that everyone hated). What a lot of people consider to be one of the greatest matches of all time was back in 2002, his WrestleMania match against Hollywood (Hulk) Hogan, at a time Rock was at his absolute top Babyface run. It was the first match Hulk Hogan had wrestled in WWE for a decade and going in was meant to be a despised heel, but the audience was having NONE of that! Straight away it was clear to both Rock and Hogan that the crowd was HUGELY in Hogan's favour, so they switched it on the fly and Rock went into full heel mode, and Hogan - Babyface. I recommend checking the match out, JUST for the crowd reaction! Both Rock and Hogan definitely made the right decision!

[@ScorpionViper1001]

Hey Veggie, love your reactions btw. But yeah, a big mistake a lot of bookers/promoters make is refusing to accept that while they put forward angles and gimmicks it is the AUDIENCE that ultimately decides who is face and who is heel (and who goes over.) Good thing Hogan and the Rock understood the assignment that day.

[@mangamango5569]

I sincerely hope we won’t have to wait as long for the next part as we did for this part, that is the part that we are looking forward to the most in terms of your reaction to it.

[@ericgropuis]

With The Heist of The Century and a lesson with the Money in the Bank briefcase. Money in the Bank is a concept where someone wins this ladder match against a bunch of others, that briefcase lets you get a shot at any title you want at anytime as long as you have a referee around. It’s used to hot shot people to the main event scene or as a way to change the course of the title whenever needed which was used here. It’s usually used at the end of a match after someone has been defeated but when Seth Rollins cashed in during the middle of the match it turned the match into a triple threat so 1v1v1. Rollins took his shot, took advantage of a beaten Roman to steal the title away from the man he turned his back on

[@lupinrangerjoker]

As someone that not only has been at live wrestling events but Me, my brother and sister-in law were at That royal rumble it was actually louder, they lowered the volume on the fans when it came to the on air presentation. Not going to lie we hated Roman, as a wrestling fan we hate being told who we like and who we are supposed to like because the company says so especially since Roman wasn’t the first person in this situation. The more you go against the fans the more the fans go against the system. Luckily this story of Roman reigns has had a happy ending but no spoilers until after you fully watch this video.

[@fraserking4747]

While it won’t end up covered in this video, since it only recently happened, let’s just say Rock being Roman’s cousin has been extremely relevant to Roman’s latest work. I hope SEW will do an essay on it when it’s all said and done, because it absolutely deserves to be covered. Knowing what’s to come in the rest of this video in particular makes the hatred of Roman feel even more tragic. Gotta feel bad for the guy.

[@MoostachedSaiyanPrince]

Ladder matches are very much a real thing even in the big time promotions like WWE, and they're not even the worst of them. That honor would probably go to something like Hell in a Cell matches. Based on what you've said here, I doubt you have a good idea what that is. In which case, there's a video on the legendary Hell in a Cell match between the Undertaker and Mick Foley that I'd highly recommend if you wanna react to more wrestling stuff after these Super Eyepatch Wolf videos on wrestling. If memory serves, it's a video on KZbin that mixes footage of the match with interviews of a number of the people involved in the match. It gives you a lot of insight into just how much the wrestlers put their bodies in the line in the business and just how real the "props" they're using are.

[@oldeskul]

There's a video where Undertake and Mick Foley sit down on the 25th anniversary of that Hell in a Cell match, watch it and talk about it in real time. They talk about how they were feeling at the start of the match, about their conversations during the match and how it permanently changed both of their careers.

[@MoostachedSaiyanPrince]

@@oldeskul Haven't seen that one, but it sounds like a good watch.

[@oldeskul]

@@MoostachedSaiyanPrince You can find it on WWE's channel. I think it's still up. After watching it and learning about the problems with the Cell's roof, you're going to ask, "How did neither of them not die?"

[@ScorpionViper1001]

@@oldeskul ESPECIALLY Foley. Triple H said the same thing himself. "Foley is Good" indeed. As legend as that match is, it's hard to watch from just knowing how much of his later in life health issues were certainly exacerbated, if not entirely caused, by that night.

[@being_adibahnaf]

This guy became one of the most legendary champions in history❤️

[@banettebrochacho5636]

Also wwe has extremely strict wellness policies as a preventative measure after Cte related injuries caused some…. Nightmarish tragedies

[@tonymarshall3978]

The reason I assumed they did not give Roman a manager character was that they wanted to portray him as the hero. If he is the hero he can't be silent or intimidating and needs to be ultra likable to young audiences. A manager works best if they are promoting a villain or a Duo as they work as a hype man. If you are not just A Face but THE FACE of the company you have to stand on your own and I always assumed they basically thought that Roman would get better within a handful of matches but by the time he was 2 years in it was clear he was still shy and anxious when talking on the mic

[@thesimpsons17]

Guy really likes the sound of his own voice doesnt he?

[@christopherbrewer6972]

For Vince, you can at least take solace in the fact that hes ex-communicated from the company

[@Airier]

Isn't this the second time?

[@christopherbrewer6972]

He was pushed out, but he tried to pull a fast one and set himself back on top during WWE's merger into TKO But he had the uno reverse card pulled on him as the company saw his further involvement as a liability. And trust me, you can feel the difference in the quality of the product from when he was there. The morale was lower, the product made less sense, and you could just see his finger prints were all over it. But that is no longer the case and hasnt been the case for quite a while. The company has no reason to allow him back in and has expressed that there is no future for him within the company. Hes also been selling more and more of his stock. The company is actively attempting to get him to sell the final small portion he has to fully wash their hands of him. I know it sounds like glazing but i just think its best to be clear that supporting the company is not supporting him. Most of the fanbase despises him. I know this was a long ass response but you do seem like you genuinely want to know so I hope this was helpful.

[@christopherbrewer6972]

In the showcase mode in wwe2k24, which has you play through historic events and combines real footage with gameplay, Wwe even went as far as to blur his face in the footage in storylines involving women. Multiple top talent have also shared their honest opinions on him and some have been brutal.

[@DustyVita]

It's not oil, wrestlers will put a lot of cold water in their hair to help keep themselves cool under bright and hot arena lights.

[@vanyadolly]

The tragic thing is that Brock Lesnar was infinitely worse than Roman on the mic and had zero personality, but it didn't matter because he had Heyman. They could have saved themselves so much trouble by just turning Roman heel from the start, which is what he wanted. Or giving him more time in a group before sending him off on his own. Vince had some bizarre hangup about champions having to be friendless losers. It's incredible Roman didn't quit and kept working while being booed for years.

[@banettebrochacho5636]

I love this super eyepatch video so much. I cannot wait to see how you feel about the rest of this story

[@Ashurman666]

7:16 Yeah ladder matches are no joke. Those aren't prop ladders, those are real steel. I don't remember if the video addresses it but Kevin Steen now wrestles in the WWE under the name Kevin Owens. No idea what El Generico is doing now though. 13:47 Kind of except in the Money In The Bank match to win you have to set up a ladder, climb it and grab the briefcase that's hanging above the ring 28:32 Correct. Lesnar was the man responsible for breaking Taker's streak 35:39 TLC(Tables, ladders and chairs) PPV

[@neilcherian257]

Man, I cannot wait to see you react to the rest of the video especially considering the story of Roman Reigns has reached its biggest peak yet very recently and it just might be one of the greatest wrestling stories that I have ever seen.

[@being_adibahnaf]

It’ll get a bit more emotional, a bit more depressing, but then it will be better. I feel trapped exactly there in my life. But it always gets better.

[@Ratchetfan321]

IM 99% sure eyepatch did do a vidoe on the CM Punk Pipebomb

[@dexterwilliams2520]

There’s a single 30-second segment about the pipebomb in the very first SEW wrestling video, but that’s it. What Airier is asking for is a full video essay on CM Punk, similar to the video on The Undertaker and now the video on Roman Reigns.

[@Ratchetfan321]

@@dexterwilliams2520 ah must've confused it with another creator since I did remember him talking about it but it must've been that segment

[@smokify2198]

bryan danielson(daniel bryan in wwe) did have to retire due to the injury but he did make a return a few years after and is still wrestling at the time of writing this, he might be on the run of his career in AEW

[@GHOSTJMOON]

Ngl I don’t get how you made it into a 4 part series

[@Airier]

Obsessive nerdiness.

[@KitsuneRokaku]

7:34 Usually there's at least one ladder made of wood meant for that specific spot. It's supposed to break like that. You'll notice that in most ladder matches, when the ladder breaks it looks like it was painted the same color as the regular ladders to create the illusion

[@markuscriticus8278]

No offense man, but how did it take you over two weeks to get back to this, damn it, I couldn't wait.

[@Airier]

Tech issues last week. I gave up after an hour and reset everything. I could have got to this sooner, but I wanted the associated annoyance to cool off (it's irrational, but it made, some, sense to me).

[@frederikbuttenschn7562]

I was scared you might be having copyright issues. WWE are kinda uptight.

[@Unti1tmrw]

They have an actual wellness policy.

[@trappestarrgaming3422]

Cannot wait for him to finish this video. Anticipation is at a 10

[@LilyKazami]

One of the worst tragedies of WWE's mismanagement of Roman was that they actually had a convincing reason to course-correct before that Royal Rumble. Roman had been out from September to November with an intestinal hernia. This is time both WWE and Roman could have used to improve and get him over, but was lost due to an emergency. This was the perfect time to hit the brakes, seeing as the injury cut their build up for him off at the knees. But no, they stuck to the plan they'd made the second the Shield broke up. And everyone suffered for it.

[@Dev_Soren]

Honestly, not only do I look forward to seeing you finish this but I hope if this peaks your interest that you react to some legendary matches. Particularly a good number from the Attitude Era, as that's considered peak WWE ((WWF at the time before the lawsuit))

[@R0B0T_J0NES61]

I really hope you do more soon. This video was so good. Just remember the day is darkest just before the dawn

[@grimsladeleviathan3958]

I think what they wanted to do was NOT have Roman be the one to take out Daniel Bryan. Because then Roman would be the person who took out a crowd favourite. And uh... The video speaks for the rest of it.

[@thegloriouswizard5270]

Man, it is *WILD* hearing about wrestling

[@SpencerBPD]

He barely even talked about the absolute INSANE backlash Roman had from beating the Undertaker on the next RAW. It was the most explosive nuclear heat (negative crowd reaction) in wwe history, everyone in that crowd HATED him and wouldn’t let him talk for 20 minutes while he stood there in the ring trying to deliver a promo.

[@DestroySteve]

There are a number of wrestlers that suffer early on with their character. Both Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes had really good starts with a group and when they went single, it just deflated. Now they are the top of the game and had to be remade into diamonds. Roman had to endure and turn heal while Cody had to leave and rebuild himself from the ground up.

[@dtllmpn]

The amount of foreshadowing in this video, can't wait to see the next one!

[@cuklyxd9031]

I suggest you to react on stream or in a short, the daniel bryan "monster" promo. To see why the fans love it and the difference between him and roman

[@jamesgaston2745]

Lifelong wrestling fan and obsessed know it all here. So the oily hair in most cases is leave in conditioner to keep their hair from getting frizzy. A ladder match is a match with a retrievable object over the ring with the objective of climbing a ladder and recovering it. Wrestlers are independent contractors and OSHA doesn't care what stupidity they do to themselves Daniel Bryan's neck injury was pretty bad and I believe related to concussions but he rehabbed it. He retired again then unretired and is currently still a pro wrestler. Many wrestlers do come back from legit neck breaks. RoH is Ring of Honor, which was once an independent wrestling organization that has a pretty significant history. The Royal Rumble is a 30 man match where you lose by being thrown over the top rope The Play button was part of the Wrestlemania set for the year, not sure why they went with it, but they did. When Seth interrupted the match, he made it a triple threat match, which means it now is 3 people, first to get a pin or submission wins, previous match essentially ceased to exist.

[@MrKangaroo123]

I mean that's not that old for a lot of wrestlers who truly love the sport, "Action" Mike Jackson is 71 and he is still actively wrestling in matches for IMPACT wrestling and other indie promotions.

[@Unti1tmrw]

The money in the bank briefcase can add someone to a match or create new matches. It’s a pretty usual strategy. Have the champion fight a match then cash in right afterwards while they’re tired. At ‘Mania 31, what happens though is the match between Brock and Roman is turned into a triple threat meaning that Brock does not have to be pinned to lose the title.

[@Aaron-ih5ne]

The rock and Romen just had a tag team match together at wrestlemaina 40

[@Bowen05]

It gets better for Roman in the next part

[@boom350ph]

fun fact simon miller is the host on a youtube serise ups and downs ngl the most positive wrestling fan ik in yt

[@smokify2198]

el generico is one of the best ever !!

[@bigredd2688]

I acknowledge the Tribal Chief!☝️

[@LordZazas]

Now begins our vigil until the next part drops

[@lasercookie5842]

Tape is good for the blood flow. Roman wasn´t even bad in the ring or at acting, he just wasn´t that good on the mic.

[@TheOpinionatedNobody]

7:55 “the ring is bouncy, the ropes are… somewhat bouncy” Bro… It’s literally just regular ass wood and ropes, the “padding” amount to a yoga mat worth of ring padding, (which, if you say that’s bouncy- Go ahead, put a yoga mat on some wood floors and land back first onto it, then get back with me💀) And as I said, the ropes are kinda just ropes- no elastic or anything, just some tape look a little nicer, Hell some promotions use steel cables which, yeah STEEL- ouch-💀

[@Paugose]

To quote Hulk Hogan : "That wasn't a wrestling mat, brother, that felt like they took concrete straight from a highway and put it between four corners and called it a mat."

[@edamejia0730]

Christ please get to the next part faster

[@Whitewingdevil]

I always feel bad watching this video, this was pretty much the only time in my life that I actively followed the WWE storyline, and I was one of those asses in the audience constantly complaining about Roman. Obviously Joe didn't deserve all the hate he got because of the fans not being happy with the story, and I'm glad the audience got behind him eventually.

[@haraken3119]

It's such a weird situation in that period of time... Roman was improving not deserving that amount of hate while simultaneously the crowd not rightfully owing to the WWE to like him because of the forced narative at the expense of the people who they were invested into. The people having decided on that narrative at all cost and not course correcting should be held up in place of Roman getting shouted at by the crowd. The crowd got an awful spetacle and Roman just got stuck into a horrid situation because of the WWE's shortsightedness.

[@mattrossini1755]

Don't want to spoil anything but if you want more insight on Romen perspective of that time WWE did a documentary on him just recently..

[@Masterchris-tt5tz]

Average roman hater : roman deserves all of the hate and hes a weak wrestler Average roman lover : he isnt so bad Average roman heel hater : roman doesnt deserve all of the love he gets and he cheats Average roman heel lover : bruh thats how being a heel is

[@rockassassin64]

You going? I wonder where El Generico, ended up. While Sammy Zane's music is actively playing in the background is very funny To me not that you could have known.

[@SetheTmv]

Do you want another reason to feel bad for roman/know why people hated his push/hate vince mcmahon?? at some point during his big hero roman reigns experiment they had him use blue colored contact to "make him look more like a hero"(not actual quote but the sentiment behind the action) is that kinda racist? You could argue it since it attributes hero-ness to blue-eyed people;and ANY decision at this time had to go trough vince mcmahon so it makes you think... and its one of the reasons fans felt it all was really artificial Edit: for proof look up roman reigns eye color blue

[@gaara_of_the_desert1118]

For some reason even if I believe you're being genuine, the way you talk makes everything you say sound like a fake performance at a bad stand up improv club.

[@kazeryu4834]

Do things get worse? Well that depends on your point of view

[@Apizzaslice]

You think that the next part is going to be sad? You've got no idea...

[@Lunacorva]

5:16 Ring of Honour or "ROH" for short, is a lesser known but highly respected promotion that got it's start in the early 2000's, while WWE focused on big campy characters, ROH distinguished itself with a focus on in ring action itself as the draw. To this day, it's major wrestlers have become a "who's who" in the wrestling pantheon. 7:28 They use wooden ladders with metalic paint for when they want a spot where a wrestler breaks a ladder. 9:38 It also helped that it still worked and was sold IN character as these two old friends, now bitter enemies finally reconciling and saying goodbye to each other. 11:00 See, Reigns wasn't a bad performer. He was bad at the character they were trying to make him into at the time. It's like they hired Kane Hodder (Famous Jason Vorhees actor) and told him to play the role of Starlord. Roman was good at playing this invincible engine of destruction that spoke little and destroyed his opponents in seconds. People liked that, but he hadn't been taught in playing the role of the smiling, happy go lucky underdog in peril when the WWE tried to present him as such. What's funny is that for a brief few months in 2015, they went BACK to portraying Roman as the no-nonsense killer of men and fans LOVED it... only for them to then make every other wrestler feel unimportant next to the almighty Reigns, which the fans immediately resented and started hating Roman again. So they HAD the fans love of him for a few months by fixing their biggest issue in his writing, then almost immediately lost it by introducing a brand NEW problem. 13:48 WWE actually helped to popularise the Ladder match and most of the iconic examples come from the Big E itself. The general concept is a belt or other item is hung above the ring. First wrestler to climb a ladder and retrieve the item wins the match. WWE even introduced a very popular version of it called "Money in the Bank" that has become an annual tradition. It is a six person free for all ladder match where the prize is a briefcase containing a contract that can be cashed in for a match at ANY time. Now hold on. You might have misheard me. You MIGHT think I said: "During any show" I said: At. ANY. Time. The first ever "Mr. Money in the Bank" Edge won the WWE world title by cashing in his briefcase IMMEDIATELY after then WWE Champion John Cena had just fought six other wrestlers in the brutal Elimination Chamber (Another violent free for all match), meaning that John was bloodied, bruised and could barely stand, leaving him easy pickings for the fresh as a daisy Edge. 18:21 Tell that to Kurt Angle, a wrestling Legend who, in real life, (Look it up) won an honest to God, no bullshit, OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL "WITH A BROKEN, FREAKIN' NECK!!" 18:39 Here's what makes this even more incredibly stupid: The story, at the time, was that Daniel Bryan was being bullied by the (In Kayfabe) Authority for not being a "Marketable" champion, and they had sent their henchmen to attack him and cause his injury. Forcing him to surrender the title without actually being beating for it. So his quest to win back the belt that he never actually lost is the story that has the most emotional resonance, while Roman at the time has no actual story connecting him to the world title besides "It would be cool to win it." Imagine if, at the climax of Return of the Jedi, Luke Skywalker got randomly shot by a stormtrooper in the stomach. Said "Forget Vader, I'm going home" and instead Chewbaccas goes to fight Darth Vader because Lucas is a big Chewbacca fan. That is what happened with Daniel Bryan and Roman Reigns. 22:22 Oh, you'll LOVE this. For basically all of 2016-2018, the Vince kept trying to justify the EXTREMELY negative reactions to Roman Reigns with: "Well, it's not apathy. Therefore it's exactly what I want and I'm doing a great job!" 25:37 That's not a storyline. His cousin REALLY. IS. THE ROCK. 27:49 No, Ivan Drago is a good comparison. 28:41 Yeah, He broke the Undertaker's wrestlemania streak in what was, sadly, a lackluster match after a string of insanely good ones. Brock isn't a bad performer in the slightest, but a combination of old age and Undertaker getting a concussion lead to the legendary streak ending in a trombone sound of a match. 29:35 That tape is a real life injury that he is wrestling with. They use surgical tape to protect the wounded area as much as possible during the match. 34:53 Remember when I said "At ANY time" Seth cashed in in the middle of their match, making it a Triple Threat where the first man to pin someone, ANYONE would win the match and the title. Roman and Brock were already tired, Seth just had to wait till one hit the other, take out the remaining man and boom. He's champion. 43:09 They wanted the Roman Reigns match to be Taker's last, but it was a terrible match through no fault of Roman's. Taker was in his 50's and could barely move by that point. And it started a horrible string of years where Take would go: "I want to retire on this match." Then the match would be awful because he was a man in his 50's, so he'd say: "Okay, THAT sucked. I can't end my career on that. ONE more match." and the next one would be even worse, so he'd say: "Okay, ONE more match..." and it got worse and worse and worse. 44:55 Now, to be fair, there ARE wrestlers like Minoru Suzuki who can wrestle in their 50's and have FANTASTIC matches as recently as 2021. But Minoru wrestles a style that is focused on strikes and submissions which isn't very physically intensive. Meanwhile, Taker's style is all about big, powerful, athletic moves. For a 300lb man, in his 50's.

[@berserkerciaran]

Honestly, the squash with Cena at WM34 was so funny I think he could have retired with that one

[@Paugose]

For the "Vince said it wasn't apathy so it's okay", well, it's the first lesson given to wrestlers and bookers for decades "as long as the audience feels passionately, one way or another, buisness will be good".

[@Lunacorva]

@@Paugose On a level, that's true. But it's intended as a call for flexibility. "Oh, they're cheering your Heel? Lean into that. Keep that audience engagement." But how people like Russo take it is that nothing matters except attention. To paraphrase Zero Punctuation, they're like the playground dweeb eating worms so the popular kids will notice him.

[@maxacorn]

i would very much like to talk to you and educate you on the finer points of pro wrestling, my dude. it would be very fun to teach you about it on discord if possible.

[@FermentingSmeg]

You don’t have to lift their leg up to pin someone

[@being_adibahnaf]

Finish this story

[@aaronyarnes2941]

Reigns bad in the ring? Youre tripping my guy

[@JoshAraujo]

Please react to space jam 2 is a lie

[@rockassassin64]

Roman reigns kept getting better and people didn't give a s*** at least not for a very long time.

[@rockassassin64]

Simon Miller is a KZbin or from a channel called what culture wrestling Who started wrestling in order to live out his dream. Also, the whole type thing is something that happens when they're injured or at least when they are selling an injury.Rather it's real or fake. But if they go into a match with tape on it means it that part of them is injured. It is to what kind of help it recover. I guess.

[@luigithe42nd]

Can you just watch the rest, please.

[@Silent-qs6sb]

man you talk way too much during the video

[@lightningechidna147]

The reason Roman's hair looks like that is because alot of wrestlers with longer hair will get their hair wet to make taking hits look more impactful.

[@TyRiders2]

The Rock and Roman are a part of a HUGE family in WWE