WE WATCHED TRANSFORMERS ONE

[@Danimatronicspeed]

The fact that one dude on twitter carried this film is wild

[@EmRizzlemrfunnyman]

Huge respect to TFhypeguy

[@BackKibblePodcast]

Yeah we didn't talk about that because he really popped off the weekend after we recorded this

[@tanmaykokkula6211]

"ONE MAN! ALONE. BETRAYED BY THE COUNTRY HE LOVES!"

[@yonderjam]

Back Kibble: if he was in a bay film, Jazz would probably be a background character without his name said. Bayverse Jazz: ...

[@BackKibblePodcast]

Lmfao fair enough, I wasn't talking specifically about Jazz, just any character that appears after the first movie basically

[@TeryJones]

I mean he still kinda was in that movie, only had a handful of lines, even got killed off unceremoniously.....

[@Ironmagnus-86]

I love how you guys take a million years to get to the topic of the podcast than 2 seconds later get off track

[@bryannkam]

For clarification D-16 (Megatron) doesn’t say “no more false Primes”, he says “no more false *prophets*”. While yes I agree the turn happened a bit too quickly, I do understand it from Megatron’s perspective. D-16 was a rule follower, always wanting to not rock the boat or step out of line. He did this in hopes of advancing up the ladder by (in his own words) “following protocol”. After discovering that the 13 Primes were dead (not just gone) and the status quo he’d knew his whole life was a lie, followed by Starcream’s statement that “all that counts is the strength of one bot over another”, it seems like Megatron (and by extension, the Decepticons) driving ideology going forward is a twisted bastardization of Darwinism and Meritocratic philosophy. Orion’s resurrection and transformation into Optimus Prime further pushed him by way of him feeling forsaken and betrayed by Primus himself. The way he says “Impossible... Primus gave you the Matrix!?” was in such a confused and later angry manner. From Megatron’s perspective, he galvanized the High Guard, he stood up to and defied Sentinel, he executed the deceiver for his betrayal, and he sought to “burn down” the oppressive regime that the false Prime had built and punish all those who helped him maintain the sham. And yet, after doing all that, what does he see? Primus in his divine wisdom having bestowed the Matrix of Leadership (essentially the Transformers’ equivalent of Excalibur/the Holy Grail) to Orion/Optimus. Megatron’s speech during the post-credits cements that the tenants of Decepticonism will be founded and defined on how the Decepticons (and Megatron specifically) weren’t divinely handed anything, they struggled and fought for what they’ve achieved. It’s by their own hands and theirs alone that they earned what they believe is their right.

[@BackKibblePodcast]

Great analysis!

[@Cdr2002]

“Cycle” SOUNDS like something that refers to rotation around the sun. It’s inconsistent but I see how they got there.

[@TornaitSuperBird]

It's in Transformers fiction too. IIRC the terms have been in use ever since Transformers Animated, potentially earlier.

[@Cdr2002]

@ yeah I think transformers animated has the most robust version of a Cybertronian time cycle with a whole list of terms, while most writers, especially in the G1 era, just kinda filled the dialogue with whatever sounds spacey or roboty

[@kubaxterg9994]

Fun fact! SO many people that seen this movie with me, ive been 3 times with diff people, they had no idea D-16 was megatron, cuz all they know are Live Action movies, so they were suprised at the end

[@DEMMOPE]

I loved shockwaves personality here, just being super fucking angry is such a hilarious take

[@Necrophon]

I've NEVER seen Perspective as a "Negative" transformers fan. I have always interpreted him as passionate about what he enjoys and highly analytical, opinionated even, but how anyone could interpret him as hating Transformers One and not wanting it to succeed from that just blows my mind.

[@_HON3Y_13_]

he in recent time has become one of my go to reviewers because like you said he's very hyper critical about transformers where as other reviewers (whether for finicial reasons or what) praise every single thing and not everything is perfectly made from hasbro.

[@costantinemf4207]

1:34:12 "Bay fans are the new geewuners" That's so fucking true and im saying this as a BIG bayverse fan. Like you don't understand how upset i got because of the reactions i saw about the first TF ONE trailer on Instagram where bay fans tend to be alot at. (yes i was excited about the movie from the very beginning).

[@dajokahbaby1506]

Ironically it’s a real Megatron situation lol, the oppressed became the oppressor

[@youwayo]

“Until now you became the very thing you swore to destroy” -Obi-wan (19 bby)

oh my god im so glad someone said it. bay fans are a PLAGUE on instagram

[@Patolagos]

I imagine they meant that, in Transformers One, 50 cycles is the Cybertronian equivalent to 50 human years....

[@USSMariner]

I would add that the self-building roadways are a nod to RID/Car Robots, especially how they would constantly create loop de loops like in the show's opening.

[@jojonono2679]

This is my first time seeing you all with face cam and I hope this doesn't sound weird or nothing but y'all are handsome.

[@TFanPage101]

Yay

[@Cdr2002]

I think Shockwave was out of character on purpose as either a joke or setup for him deleting his emotions

[@llamallamapajama9571]

On the point of Optimus shrugging off Megatron's blasts after the Matrix power-up, it reminds me of that scene in the G1 episode War Dawn where the newly-in-the-past rebuilt Optimus confronts Megs and the latter's fusion cannon just glances off. And as anyone who watched the 86 movie or played the first level of Fall Of Cybertron knows, Transformers is wildly inconsistent with weapons damage depending on story needs.

[@Violet_witchy]

Happy birthday y’all

[@kevintaylor5264]

Something that caught my attention in the movie, and I think Brian will appreciate this, is that Alpha Trion had such a Bionicle look to him. His head was very mask-like and his presence felt very Bionicle.

[@TFanPage101]

Very much like the Mask of Creation in Gen2

[@L0rdskywarp]

I loved the part where you guys all subscribed to L0rdskywarp that question was my favourite

[@claytonimor34]

D-16's upgrade with Megatronus is just a sidegrade, since he already had a prime's transformation cog. The Megatronus cog may be more powerful than the other prime's cog, but certainly not to the extent that the Matrix of Leadership upgrades Optimus's form.

[@Cdr2002]

I liked that in this movie built in weapons were kind of secondary to grabbing guns

[@christianmartin6877]

I don't get when people are so rude to someone else's opinions. Like if you HAVE to disagree with someone about something so small, then at least make it constructive. If you are gonna be rude, then there is no reason to post. Basic online etiquette. I commented under the tweet about the stretchy-ness with the gif about how its kinda cool and adds to the mechanical nature, but focusing on it can make it look uncanny. But I meant it with pure constructive criticism and respect. Keep doing what you are doing PE, you can say you always give me a different PERSPECTIVE on things :)

[@youwayo]

So basically gatekeeping?

[@USSMariner]

I have a dumb theory about cycles (which is a mistake, albeit a small one for a multitude of reasons; unclear timescale, etc.) I think they actually wrote "megacycles" in an earlier draft, but they were concerned that audiences would get confused with between that, Megatronus, and Megatron. It's arbitrary but something that silly has happened in other scripts for similar reasons. They might not have thought to change it to Astrocycles or something even more esoteric.

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

Haven’t seen TFOne yet, but I have seen The Wild Robot. Absolutely wonderful film. 10/10

[@allared9008]

Going to watch it this weekend!

[@BackKibblePodcast]

I need to see it

[@glory2cybertron]

The Wild Robot reminded me of the Avatar movies but is funnier

[@ThirdEchoMedia]

PE tweaking, the score's great. I can't believe that he can't hear the Prime motif in there. It pops up multiple times.

[@Cyberutopia-Enjoyer]

I SAW THE FILM AND SAW RICOCHET(Stepper) IN THE BACKGROUND

[@dragondash391]

It's actually jackpot! They do look very similar though.

[@Cyberutopia-Enjoyer]

@ huh, thanks for correcting me(glad to see action masters are getting more attention)

[@Cdr2002]

I thought I saw Barricade and Flamewar among the miners so they may not all be Autobots

[@josiaharaki7310]

Speaking of confusing time terminology, the word week used to just mean any time period of seven, thus a week of years would be 7 years

[@Cdr2002]

22:14 dude I hate people like this, I’m sorry to hear one of your long term followers acted like that

[@L0rdskywarp]

I know the guy, he was on the patrons discord and he really took a spiral downward. I kinda miss him

[@Cdr2002]

@@L0rdskywarp damn, sorry to hear that

[@Cdr2002]

25:40 the second and third trailers were so much more balanced, people really need to watch subsequent trailers for movies

[@_HON3Y_13_]

I'm a bayformers fan (grew up watching the 07 movie / it was my G1 to me) and I can agree that the movies have problems , I guess it's because mentally I'm mature ( even tho I'm not that old) so finding out that other bayformer enthusiasts are acting like the people who have hated them (geewunners) really makes me ashamed to even say I'm associated with them, guys calm down the movies aren't as good as you think they are.

[@Cdr2002]

@@_HON3Y_13_ this is a good reflection, I feel you here. Personally I was introduced to G1 and the Bayverse around the same time and while I do prefer the former a little, both hold a place in my heart. The “everything after my fave sucks” mentality is really toxic

[@joshuavis2736]

Its so much cooler to say solar cycles, stellar cycles etc. Them just saying Cycles was a bit annoying but also confusing because you really cant tell the timescale. Because it doesnt seem like it can be THAAAT long ago since Sentinel is still in power but at the same time alpha trion has all mossy and stuff. Its a minor thing and probably my only issue with the movie other than badassatron being an unfunny bit. Other than basically those 2 things, I absolutely loved the movie. And yes i didnt realise it came out already, i basically checked if it was out and realised it was released 2 or 3 weeks ago. The marketing really didnt help, it felt really childish and silly (which isnt necessarily a bad thing, it more seemed like the unfunny childish stuff). Really hope we get a sequel. Im glad i can finally watch this episode

[@PaperPrime09]

Perspective deserves more respect

[@eobardthawne3333]

I thought I heard SOLAR cycles which means cybertronian years.

[@Scourgeisoptimusprimeyt]

I’m seeing it today

[@Cdr2002]

Mirage is the silver robot in that control room Bumblebee cut up who has the same body type as Chromia

[@kubaxterg9994]

Hearing few cycles also very much confused me at the start of the movie, i hard agree with PE here!!!!!

[@MostLikelyPeterParker]

I agree. Cycles should mean minutes not years.

[@Cdr2002]

I’m so exhausted with people asking for dark and gritty dark and gritty, anything for the original target audience of kids is harm to the franchise

[@Freddabeast-lx6bd]

Dark and griddy

[@Cdr2002]

@@Freddabeast-lx6bd 10/10 pun thank you

[@glory2cybertron]

There is a reason: Bayverse changed people's perception of the franchise from harmless kids' fun to mind-numbing violence, explosions, collapsing buildings, Megan Fox and sex jokes. So Hasbro trying to sell TF as kids' fun after all that is not going to make parents take their kids to see TF1 which the stats show, but also turns away Bayverse fans. This is why the movie is flopping.

[@Cdr2002]

@@glory2cybertron ah, so it’s all the Bayverse’s fault. Checks out.

[@Cdr2002]

Maybe one of them is Greenlight and one of them is Springer??? They have similar color schemes idk

[@suraulevemec9140]

Yo yo Piraka!!!

[@Cdr2002]

Prime fans were the second Geewunners and now Bay fans have overtaken over them

[@isabeladamacena7768]

Transformers has a Pokemon sindrome problem.

[@Cdr2002]

@@isabeladamacena7768 that’s a great way to describe it

[@incinerater8396]

I have already seen it 3 times. Might go a fourth

[@BackKibblePodcast]

Same!

[@blitzvoid_343]

When the announcer of the race said skyfire i inmediately thought of perspective end

[@BugsyFoga]

I want sequel to happen simply so we can get more Steve Buscemi starscream.

[@AirCommandStudios]

PE, I kind of care about the set definition of minutes. PS: Have you guys thought about adding a new member?

[@BackKibblePodcast]

Nope

[@RyanWiseman-dv2lp]

31:35 last I checked they did that in high Moon war for Cybertron

[@MC_73]

50 years makes sense because the High Guard witnessed Sentinels betrayal. They are actively fighting him and if it were over a thousand years one side would’ve probably won already

[@IsaiahJones-k4c]

PERSPECTIVE HAS SEEN ARCANE AND LOVED IT?!? I NEED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT NOW

[@Hey.SpaceCadet]

On cycles meaning minutes: the argument is that 95~ percent of the time cycles has meant minutes with the only exceptions being one off moments by writers who probably aren’t super familiar with the franchise, so when a new continuity changes a long running (since the 90s) pre-established part of the lore without a logical and necessary reason / explanation (like if animated said autobots can’t fly after years of them flying while giving zero explanation) it feels illogical. Can you imagine if in Star Wars they just up and decided that Anakin is wasn’t the only child conceived of the force (ya know, the thing unique to him being the chosen one that was established around 25 years ago) and all of a sudden some random character with no significance to the overarching story is also just conceived by the force? Oh wait….

[@ronin9790TF]

50:00 gotta love the banter of trying to figure out discord 😂 im perspectiveends head admin on his public server so its funny to watch

[@bloodgulchblues4094]

First rule of Transformers fandom: we don't talk about the time units 😂

[@Cdr2002]

I think Perspective said 220, so “50 cycles” in TF One would be 11,000 years

[@bobthebusbuilder2478]

The entire high guard might have been banished for attacking iacon after sentinel dies

[@BackKibblePodcast]

That, and also I've been thinking about it, the High Guard also hated Sentinel as much as Megatron does, so they probably agreed that following a Prime is bad even if Prime proved he was the strongest.

[@trackmastertheman7801]

I believe Optimus banishing Megatron and the high guard is a reference to the Bible, the way God banished the devil and a quarter of the angels that followed him.

[@zphyr6780]

We always do this, every single time a new movie comes out every fan collectively gases up the latest movie. Said movie can do no wrong. Same people months later (once the copium has worn off): Yeah, actually it was horrible.

[@tysondennis1016]

I love how much of a bastard Sentinel Prime was. As I’m sure Dark of the Moon and other media reduced our trust in him, the big twist wasn’t that Sentinel was evil, but just how evil he was.

[@raptorprimal1077]

I thought Chromia was Blurr lol

[@dangeroustheannoying3618]

Huh, I didn't know that Dr. Lockdown and Dumb Jake were the same guy.

[@BackKibblePodcast]

G'day mate

[@yozarif]

I have feeling that owner of "Crazy ass moments in transformers history" sometimes deliberately words their tweets to focus negativety on some individuals or just groups that have some opinion the don't like as "Hateful chud bigots, who try to ruin our wholesome toxic positive fandom". Seen this before with Japanese fans and other casual fans cause of Earthspark.

[@BackKibblePodcast]

I don't think that's true, and there are some hateful chud bigots in the fandom. All the account said was the PE was being negative and I can't blame them for thinking that. I, as his friend, was not even sure if he was being negative or positive.

[@yozarif]

@@BackKibblePodcast idk, I barely seen PE videos outside BackKibble Podcast and when I've seen tweet, I viewed it as neutral. And overall, may misremember, but "crazy ass moments" focused negativity on Flame Toys Windblade designer/fans. And they tweeted and deleted mean stuff to ppl who pointed at Hasbro themself censoring Earthspark around globe.

[@trackmastertheman7801]

I believe in the second movie the decepticons and Autobots aren't going to work together. I believe the main plot will be the Autobots trying to fight the Quintessons, and while putting up a good fight ultimately fail. But when all seems lost for Cybertron. Megatron comes in with the decepticons and wins the battle. Optimus Prime so happy to see his friend again, quickly changes mood, as soon as the real reason why Megatron came back to save them was not to make amends. But a point. Megatron: Look at him, the supposed CHOSEN One by Primus. Is this your leader? Someone who led you to failure! To a war that was almost lost, until the DECEPTICONS came! And quickly turned the tide and saved all of you! So tell me.... What would you rather have? An immature, irresponsible, OPTIMIST, who doesn't do anything. Or someone who acts now! Who hits the situation WHERE IT HURTS, and will DESTROY ALL WHO ARE IN OUR WAY! CYBERTRON, make your choice.

[@The_rythem_lensmen]

58:03 it’s Bryan bro been doing this for a decade

[@Cdr2002]

I heard some of the Prime musical motif for a few seconds near the middle of the movie but that was it

[@koalatime6664]

1:03:36 🤨

[@BackKibblePodcast]

Cmon bruh you know what I meant 😭

[@koalatime6664]

"you left me no choice brother"

[@Freddabeast-lx6bd]

"Agggghhhhh minors" -drakewing

[@l3EAT5]

I think we saw a cog-less grimlock in some scene btw. It looked like him in his colors and head shape.

[@RyanWiseman-dv2lp]

The ax for some reason just feels more like the star saber from Transformers prime

[@SicMetalMaggot4life]

Ngl I think Shockwave’s portrayal is kinda okay. I feel people think of him too much as the Marvel G1 or post-Dreamwave iterations of the character when the original G1 cartoon character was a big of a nerd. I think Elita taking the piss out of him was a callback to G1 and the episode with the female Autobots. : P Also, I wonder if Nexus Prime is perhaps a reference to the whole “Blitzwing’s weird connection to the Quintessons and TF pre-history” thing from the G1 cartoon.

[@AIFT_Staff]

1:13:39 wouldn't say consistently, g1 and fall of cybertron game

[@Cdr2002]

I think Dark of the Moon has some good qualities but it’s kinda overrated

[@Patolagos]

I agree with perspective on the first trailer, and like to me it was OBVIOUS the tone was gonna be different upon watching the movie based on the premise alone

[@StarScreamsalot]

I personally thought if I fall (the song that TFfanpage references) is one of the best songs of any movie. Behind who will know from shin Godzilla

[@StarScreamsalot]

The one where he says “I’m in my prime Optimus”

[@L0rdskywarp]

@@StarScreamsalot im goin big megatron

[@L0rdskywarp]

But also yeah Who Will Know is fucking fantastic

[@StarScreamsalot]

@@L0rdskywarp real

[@MarzooqPrimal416]

7 out of 10 TF Movie

[@CoolShardDude]

Why is this as long as the movie

[@TFanPage101]

We like talking about the subject of robot people

[@Freddabeast-lx6bd]

Guys i think its arktober

[@panshakes]

The impression I get about the twitter post was that of a nitpick that felt like a criticism of the movie and thats all it really was in the end. A nitpick of the movie knowing it exists and dosent exist changes nothing in the grand scheme of the tfone. But the post itself made it feel like a criticism of the movie and its vagueness of it made it feel like you were criticizing on something that shouldnt be that criticized about

[@DEMMOPE]

God twitter sucks. I was seeing the flames happening for like 5 hours and like holy fuck can people not have opinions at this point?! Like I see the movie as a 8/10 but holy crap megatrons reasoning was so unclear I had to get it literaly explained to me why he turned

[@PaperPrime09]

56:51. 💀

[@raptorprimal1077]

This is my first video seeing Perspective Ends face. Also. I'm a diehard transformers fan. Love EVERYTHING Transformers, even the bay films as bad as they got towards the end.... but this movie struck a cord with me so hard I actually am way more excited for a sequel to TF One than ANY more live action movies. I don't hate live action transformers....just animation is clearly the best imo for transformers. Especially THIS animation. I want MORE of it. I really don't care about GI Joe crossover

[@EmRizzlemrfunnyman]

I swear the wild robot will decimate transformers one

[@glory2cybertron]

it's a different kind of story though, similar to Avatar as in nature vs technology if you replace humans with robots and the na'vi with animals

[@MaxwellWurme]

Perspective please watch revenge of the fallen the pure horror of its existence has to be fresh in your mind for you to unleash your wrath upon it!!!

[@ohw5306]

❤️

[@sonnysunny975]

Okay what i though years is stellar cycles and minutes is cycles or mega cycles theres too many cycles

[@billypathy]

'limbs stretching' big deal, stop yapping

[@TFanPage101]

We wouldn't be if the response wasn't so strong

[@BackKibblePodcast]

Bro its a podcast its all yapping dawg

[@TFanPage101]

​@@BackKibblePodcastnext one we should be really quiet

[@billypathy]

sorry man i came for tfone yapping not twitter post yapping

[@BackKibblePodcast]

🤷‍♂️

[@_Majoras]

wokeformers one

[@TFanPage101]

Explain woke

[@_Majoras]

@@TFanPage101 well thats just what i heard