We went to watch KISS...

Ep. 34 - It seems whatever the subject of our podcast, we always get round to talking about KISS. As it happens Gene and the boys rolled into Manchester and we took a trip curtesy of Stonedead Festival founder Chris Sumby - here's what we made if the experience.
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MASSIVE WAGONS
NOVEMBER UK TOUR 2023
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14. Norwich | Epic Studios
15. Swansea | Patti Pavilon
16. Frome | Cheese & Grain
18. Bournemouth | Old Fire Station
19. Holmfirth | Picturedrome
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24. Troon (Winterstorm Festival)
25. Newcastle | Northumbria Uni
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[@arkeyethenoo]

Best band I’ve seen with all the pops, bangs, flames n whistles…Shinedown. Best band with nowt but the music, the voice and crowd interaction….Thunder.

[@MassiveWagons]

Thunder…. YES!!! Now yer talkin!!

[@pduwepd]

Been lucky enough to see Kiss 7 times

[@rickh7553]

2nd time i saw Kiss was at Manchester Apollo with Bon Jovi as the support band :)

[@garymayes4881]

Hey chaps.. Thank you for the name check and your insightful take on a KISS show..It cheered me up. 😂🤘😂 Your Paul Stanley voice was like he was in the room. 😂 The Gene solo is about just distorting his bass then being the Demon … he used to go up in to the air just on a harness and hang there and go into God Of Thunder.. sadly, I guess at his age it is now safer to go up on a platform. Hopefully see you at Firevolt. 🤘⭐️🤘

[@stephenbarber5902]

Kiss was awsome with Eric carr and Bruce 👍🏻 love this pod though lol nice one lads 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@Richard-wt4vi]

I saw them in the 90s, when "Peter Criss" and "Ace Frehley" were played by Peter Criss and Ace Frehley. They put on an amazing theatrical show which didn't quite make up for the fact that most of their songs are a bit gash. Glad I did, but don't feel much need to do it again.

[@samantha_xx]

I went to see Kiss in Manchester too last Friday, it was the best night!!🤟❤️‍🔥

[@craftyink70]

Ill shall be popping my rock gig cherry next month at a Massive Wagons gig. Im addicted to Ratio ❤

[@markrushton1516]

Saw them on the 1st Euro date in 1976 (Manchester). Seen them a few times over the years. Set the bar for the big show and for merchandising. before them it was a t shirt. After them you could buy everything you could think of and lots you couldnt think of. best shows were Apollo with Bon Jovi as support (1st album) and Bradford St. georges Hall (both without makeup). Eric Carr was the drummer. But last I was them (2010) it was certainly lavish.

[@OrangeBearRecords]

I'm a super fan, absolutely love them and was at that gig in Manchester! I personally disagree about them not having a solid middle ground in their discography, but I guess that's just differing music tastes! Nice podcast guys, looking forward to your next album!

[@pos5369]

I was there too, second time on the tour. I agree with you, it was brilliant ! Disagree with most of the shared opinions. It's just fun!

[@DMDvideo10]

I've seen KISS 5 times from 1979 through 2004. 2004 was the absolute best, 1979 was great as was 1996... 1985 was without makeup but still great.

[@ashleighhorabin3630]

We did too......... I am also stil digesting what my eyes saw and what my ears witnessed....

[@eweaving]

Yeah they was bloody awesome when I went to see KISS in Birmingham UK.

[@DMDvideo10]

Anything up to 1976 is their best stuff... Handful of cool tunes after that.

[@samantha_xx]

I loved watching Skindred, they were so good, definitely had me and my friend singing along🤟

[@TheBez1965]

We were right at the back in the nosebleeds and we could feel the heat from the flames

[@samantha_xx]

The ‘maaaanchester’ got me every time ahaha😂

[@stephenlovell4784]

Lol, everyone needs to see kiss it is an experience but think it should be the end now for them . Good chat though boys funny stuff

[@colinrgage]

Pmsl worth watching for the Simmons impression 😅

[@ianallison280]

Great cast….I’ve seen Kiss many times, including touring without the make up. I have to say I love their show, if you’ve been before you know exactly what you’re getting. It’s a bit like some action movies where there’s no real plot and the acting is terrible but it’s fine you know you just leave your brain at the door and accept it for what it is. I didn’t make this last tour but I would imagine and from what I’ve heard it was much the same as the last few tours. Using the film analogy again…same movie just some minor adjustments to some of the scenes. 8/10 though…that’s a decent score so as you say they’re getting something right.

[@malcolmsauer]

God Of Thunder, supposed to be a hell and demon moment of bassness. Was a great show, we were opposite you guys, but totally agree with Pau's patter.

[@ziggyscatworld]

Saw their 2000 reunion tour with all original members. Was a pretty cool show. Ted Nugent opened for KISS that evening as a power trio band. I'll never forget Ted saying in the middle of his set, "How do you like that KISS shit!" Don't think the band cared to hear that backstage. LOL. Their prime years were during the '70s. IMHO.

[@thefonzkiss]

Reunion tour was 96-97. 2000 with Ted Nugent was the Farewell Tour. Which they’re still saying 23 years later!

[@ziggyscatworld]

@@thefonzkiss, that's right. It was their so called Farewell tour. Thank you for the correction, confirmation.

[@freakystreakefc]

Really enjoyed your review. I’ve seen kiss 9 times and was there in Manchester. Gene plays the demon and his blood spitting bass solo has nearly always been part of the show. As has his fire breathing. Just wish Paul would just talk to the audience and not try the vocal gymnastics. Hoping to see you guys soon.

[@philpowe3079]

You need to see Springsteen, he is the total opposite, no gimmicks just the music. Kiss also use backing music

[@EverettVernon72]

I hate people saying kiss are overrated. Destroyer came out in 1976 and people say guns n roses were ahead of their time

[@samantha_xx]

The show was amazing but what wasn’t amazing was the merch prices ahaha, far too expensive😂

[@randywatson5713]

I appreciate that you're trying to say something nice about KISS. Seeing you struggeling with it says it all. To me they always have been just a averagely talented band thtat had a few hits in 50 years. But they are great at selling their brand. Come on, a KISS coffin...

[@steambenmodels]

I've not seen Kiss, but Rammstein set the bar for me with pyrotechnics.

[@henkdegraaf1609]

There are hardly pyro at Rammstein mostly fire. Besides that on stage there is a lot more going on with a Kiss show. Spectacular light show with LED screens. Kiss blows up by far more pyro than Rammstein.

[@steambenmodels]

@henkdegraaf1609 firstly, fire counts as pyrotechnics. Secondly, like I said, I've never seen Kiss. Rammstein have plenty of light effects, video screens, and pyro towers out in the crowd. Their stage show is too big for indoor venues, which is why their current, and last tours have been stadiums.

[@johnstilljohn3181]

So, no make-up or lycra for MW then...? Lol....

[@LamonXX]

The gene part with the bass and blood is supposed to sound bad and noisy and look crazy because his character is the Demon and he’s supposed to do the whole evil and demonic stuff

[@LamonXX]

Also the video they play before they come out is pre recorded but the one that they are showing now is new even tho it was probably recorded a month ago but it’s better then the one they were showing for the last 2 or 3 years

[@ecotack]

Kids nowadays just don't get glam rock, LOL. Best show I saw was Iron Maiden at Donington (1992), even though I got soaked in piss. David Lee Wrath Birmingham (1991) was another great show. David riding a giant mic, WTF. Hats off to Warrants Jani Lane (RIP), falling off stage onto a Babycham crate, cracking some ribs, but still carried on. Worst concert was Bon Jovi Milton Keynes (1989). Bon Jovi was just awful, sound was utter crap. Skid Row were fantastic though.

[@lewisbowers7401]

Ha ha ha ya not interrupting hollyoaks the boss is chairing a governor's meeting so I'm currently timing the pasta by your waffle 😂

[@lewisbowers7401]

Too long pasta is soggy😢

[@KeithH02]

I’ve seen kiss many times & paul Stanley , although a great entertainer, trots out some appalling (obviously scripted ) tripe! I wonder why they do that but then I remember they primarily play to yanks who love all that cheesy crap- this is the country where cheering during a film in the cinema is perfectly acceptable and doesn’t feel stupid at all, or saying ‘how are you today?’ In a shop then walking off before customer has even replied. Being ‘remembered’ by Paul Stanley is tame by their standards.

[@ticklesmcqueen2702]

Was with you upto the point you mentioned Stonedead, i had the misfortune of experiencing of taking my wife there and listening to the men telling me "women should not be there and should be at home in the kitchen" never going there again