80lb Pistol Crossbow Tests - Redback VS Tomcat 2

[@cobracommander4017]

This is my favorite weapon collector video right here. Good work Mike.

[@sak94]

Great thorough tests Mike, both look great value for money and its good that there's a few good options for pistol crossbows now.

[@WeaponCollector]

Thanks Stu, they are both great aren't they and so much better then the old ones.

[@shcomptech]

I enjoy these comparison tests. I'd buy the cheaper one and spend the extra tenner on charity.

[@ArcturanMegadonkey]

I've just bought the red back with red dot sight and it's amazing! I zero'd in the sight and keep getting bulls eyes consistently from 10m's away

[@WeaponCollector]

They are great crossbows aren't they mate

[@ArcturanMegadonkey]

@@WeaponCollector yes they are excellent. Are there many models out there that are better than the redback?

[@cobracommander4017]

@@WeaponCollector Try the steambow ar 6 or stinger 2 or the adder or the mini stroke which produces north of 22 ft lbs of kenetic energy on target.

[@WeaponCollector]

@@cobracommander4017 try watching ALL my videos, i OWN a Cobra Adder!!!

[@Swearengen86]

You sound like a posh Bane/Tom Hardy. I bought a Jag 2 pro and a redback this week based on your videos mate, keep them coming.

[@WeaponCollector]

haha, i'll take that as a compliment mate, cheers, lol, glad to help mate, both those crossbows are great aren't they.

[@tonynapoli5549]

Redback for me yes Mike nice review keep it coming thanks for sharing 👍👌🇬🇧

[@WeaponCollector]

Its defo a bit stronger isn't it Tony, i have idea why though other than the prod seems slightly thicker.

[@A423-f9o]

Good testing methods and providing relevant data. Well done !

[@bristol8042]

that was a good and thorough review Mike, it certainly helps when someone want to buy a decent bow for the money, the Tomcat is a good second bow to my Black Redback............ your top man.....

[@WeaponCollector]

Thanks Roy, yeah hopefully people can decide for them selves after this, both are decent though aren't they

[@jonwoodhousea.k.a.pistolcr3943]

Well made, interesting and informative video, Mike. - exactly what any "Pistol crossbow fan" likes to see, I'm sure!

[@sleepyrasta420]

Great video im still stuck between which one to order, will be my second crossbow got a fullsize jaguar MK1 which is great but i dont have the biggest of back gardens so a pistol crossbow would be more practical

[@Weaponsandstuff93]

Great video, I'd say all things considered the Tomcat 2 is better considering the prices.

[@WeaponCollector]

Cheers mate, it's a toss up really isn't it, both have pros and cons in power, price, how easy to cock etc, well worth owning either isn't it.

[@zednotzee7]

Seems like there's no enough difference between them to worry about ( I wouldn't want to get shot by either of them lol ). So for me, the Tomcat wins because of the price difference. The money saved can be put towards more bolts.

[@WeaponCollector]

Yeah, you're right mate, not a massive difference is it really, and both are much more powerful than the old 80lb crossbows, the extra tenner for the redback seems to get you a little more power, but mot much

[@cobracommander4017]

@@WeaponCollector I would like to see the same gel test with a 18 inch gel block and your broadheads and jaxce bolts with broadheads attached. The fbi say a firearm needs to produce between 12 to 18 inches of penetration through calibrated gel to be sufficient for self defense purposes. It would be interesting to see if either bow of that size could produce that level of performance with heavier ammo between say total bolt weights between 246 gr. To 360 gr.? If so they have similar penetration profiles to a firearm. What are your thoughts Mike?

[@WeaponCollector]

@@cobracommander4017 Sounds great CC, Would be a very good test to do and would be very interesting to see a comparison like that, i would love to do that test, and when possible i will, the main problem with an 18 inch block of gelatin is it will cost me around £25 - £30 or more to make due to the amount of gelatin you need, if you can wait the funds will eventually happen, if not feel free to donated £25 and i will buy the gelatin that day and do the test within a few days of it arriving. I will do this test as it would be very interesting to see the results, just not till i have a spare £25 - £30

[@Richardsmith001]

Great test mike doesn't seem to be enough difference to matter which one people get they are much better than the old pistol crossbows.

[@jjtt6866]

You can get those at 80lbs, by rotating each side of the string "tighter" when adding it with stringer, it removes slack of the string. If you have slack it wont get full draw of bow after tightening, tightened bow will bend some more and give better force but is harder to cock.

[@karlmclean2023]

Hello How do you rotate the string ? Twist it before hooking it on ?

[@jjtt6866]

@@karlmclean2023 yeah, twist both sides evenly, not too much just get slack out.

[@karlmclean2023]

@@jjtt6866 👍yoda

[@cwoutdoors9258]

They both good Mike i did have the choice between them last year and am loving the Tomcat 2 , great vid atb Carl

[@nagunaks2222]

10 outta 10 would definitely take out urban deer with this🤣 in a survival situation

[@JohnGuitarLord]

You can get a stock extension for the tomcat 2, adds another 3-4 inches, ordered my tomcat yesterday

[@WeaponCollector]

I am going to get one soon myself John, the bloke who makes them offered me some stuff to review, just been so busy haven't have a chance to email him back yet.

Gr8 vid m8

[@Katana-Karl]

Man, kinda hard to decide for me. Seems odd both have the same poundage but the redback had a bit more penetration into the ballistic gel. Did you find out which one was more accurate? That would be the deciding factor for me. Great video thank you

[@WeaponCollector]

Thanks Karl, yeah weird that the redback was a bit more powerful, maybe its the ever so slightly thicker prod, who knows, as for accuracy, they are the same in my opinion, apart from the prod and stock they are essentially the same crossbow.

[@BobNchannel]

i uploaded a 10 pound video for you today, great testing methods, it seems a draw to me they both work very well.

[@automaticenforcer9051]

Hey mike I was checking out some of your older videos and I was wondering would you ever make pry bars again? Because i would love to get one

[@WeaponCollector]

If i ever make more mate i shall defo do a video letting people know, i certainly may make some more this year.

[@lambofsquirrel]

Twisting the string will have an effect on poundage, prod length and brace height. Twist more and it's harder to cock. Each string will vary in length by millimeters as well. The real test would be to see which one has more penetration when twisting the string X amount of times, and using the same string on each bow.

[@Grime443]

Wicked test cheers for that 👌

[@timbo66]

Tomcat for me it would be good to see how a proper stock compares to the bit of bent plumbers pipe one I made for my Armex!

[@DarkStoneCastle]

Where do you buy either of these? Don't see any direct links? Can you even buy them in the U.S.?

[@tonyhind6992]

Great vid. I own both.

[@WeaponCollector]

Thanks Tony, both are well worth owning are they mate

[@tps3057]

Like em both Mike but think I'd av the redback...n gd video m8

[@WeaponCollector]

Thanks Terry, yeah they are both decent really aren't they, either is well worth owning.

[@WaschyNumber1]

Nice 🖖👍 Looks like the tomcat is better with the cocking stock method 🤔 I wonder if the tomcat is still a good buy this days 🤔 looks a little difficult to find some that's not out of stock and replacement Limb.

[@lenordchristopher6447]

Buy a quiver! They are superb.i always thought the Redback had a slight power advantage Mike and both are better than the Tron.mate are you going to do a stock extender for the Tomcat? I’d be interested in one 👌

[@WeaponCollector]

I even remembered to put a quick ad in the video this time Len, hahaha, they are all good crossbow when compared to the old ones aren't they, any are well worth owning.

[@kylethedalek]

Liked this a lot, will you do a comparison video on full sized crossbow? And why is that repeating crossbow over £300? I would understand if it was a full sized one. Also I saw the tomcat with scope for about £80 and without the scope £40.

[@joeasher2876]

Dude, they are the same crossbow. They are both made by the chinese crossbow company "Po-Lang" and are rebranded for sale everywhere else. The stickers and colours get tweaked for different brands but the mechanisms are identical and interchangeable.

[@WeaponCollector]

I know they are the same basic crossbow, but i have had people ask for this test many many times, so here it is. The are NOT exactly the same though, i have had 3 of these now and all have different prods - and thats the main difference - if the prods are not the same one will shoot faster / harder etc and i have proved that in this test.

[@daysofdaz3650]

Just catching up on these brilliant and informative vlogs. Will a redback string fit a tomcat???

[@WeaponCollector]

Thanks Darren, glad you liked it, and yes, the redback string will fit a tomcat 2.

[@christopherjamieson6270]

Great Video Mike. You can pick the Hori-zone red back up for £31.70 which is a lot cheaper than when I bought it for me it would be a no brainier which one to get the Hori-Zone Redback is more powerful and that would conclude it for me I Love mine and at the price they are at now I may even consider getting another one when I have the money spare.

[@bucks09]

Hey Chris, Where have you seen the Red Back that cheap. I'm looking to bag one.

[@christopherjamieson6270]

@@bucks09 It appears that all the prices have been hiked up now due to pandemic and items like this selling out can’t find the website I seen it on now cheapest one I have found is £44:95 at bowsports.com here is a link www.bowsports.com/acatalog/Hori-Zone---Redback-Pistol-Crossbow-3364.html hope that helps will post if I find it cheaper.

[@christopherjamieson6270]

@@bucks09 www.merlinarchery.co.uk/hori-zone-redback-rts-pistol-crossbow.html £41.09 here also.

[@BillMine-s8o]

How many. Inches of ballastics gel will the resback penetrate im curious?

[@REVINC1VIC]

Do you know who has stock of the tomcat in the UK Also great vid

[@WeaponCollector]

I'll do a review of the stock this week hopefully mate and give out the link again, its in this video, look in description and use my coupon code "WeaponCollector" for 10% off

[@REVINC1VIC]

@@WeaponCollector im actually trying find the crossbow itself , havent seen any stock anywhere , would you know of any

[@lostinthemoonlight]

Should I take the string off for storage?

[@WeaponCollector]

No, the string is fine to leave on on crossbows.

[@huntish]

Where do you get the front grip on the red back from

[@PiOfficial]

What sort of rail for scope does the tomcat 2 have?

[@igormedici4793]

redback is better , redback wins !!!

[@WeaponCollector]

Defo a bit more powerful isn't it Igor.

[@igormedici4793]

@@WeaponCollector although horizone has more strength the difference is small

[@Katana-Karl]

When you upload my video you can edit alot of the needless ramblings.🤣🤣

[@WeaponCollector]

haha, I can if you want Karl, i like the ramblings, lol, you come across great on the video mate.

[@Katana-Karl]

@@WeaponCollector ok cool then. I get to babbling on sometimes. Lol! But if you think it's good to go then I'm good with it too. It was just going up on YOUR channel so if figured I'd give you the option.😁👍

[@Varvact]

Britain really needs a second amendment.