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Eight key problems with F1's divisive 2026 rules

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@trk5398
@trk5398 7 ай бұрын
I prefer 50/50 as 5 cylinders on one side of the engine, and 5 more on the right side of the engine.
@carlolaatst5649
@carlolaatst5649 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Hungary_0987
@Hungary_0987 7 ай бұрын
Thats.... Pretty creative! Aprooved!
@ronin4ortyse7en
@ronin4ortyse7en 7 ай бұрын
Perfectly balanced!
@HexaSquirrel
@HexaSquirrel 7 ай бұрын
Personally, I'm a fan of 6 x 6 layout between left side and right side
@xavierdarche4822
@xavierdarche4822 7 ай бұрын
Rather keep the current six cylinders and put these on one side of the engine. I would love some 3.2 liter V12s.
@ZZPxFTW
@ZZPxFTW 7 ай бұрын
FIA: "Make your cars lighter!" also FIA: "here's a massive battery you have to use!"
@ritabuba4831
@ritabuba4831 7 ай бұрын
Dont forget about massive fuel tanks, which will be required to recharge ERS once MGU-H is gone!
@turnip5465
@turnip5465 7 ай бұрын
@@ritabuba4831 shit bait
@naufalkusumah2192
@naufalkusumah2192 7 ай бұрын
yeah that's ridiculous, with addition of 30kg PU minimum weight, the chassis needs to be ~60kg lighter than the current one if they want to achieve 768kg minimum weight. Even with 20cm shorter and 10cm narrower footprint that's beyond optimistic
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 7 ай бұрын
And a massive fuel tank because we are afraid of refueling despite every other race series being able to allow it safely. Seriously? An F1 constructor can make the fastest race car in the world but can't figure out refueling? Get out of my face!
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
​@@ritabuba4831or even 250kgs extra weight on the BoP (Performance Balancing).
@Max-pi7ri
@Max-pi7ri 7 ай бұрын
3:31 No, just to be clear it's not the engine that's getting heavier, infact it's lighter than ever It's the battery and hybrid components that are getting heavier
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
The engine is slightly heavier by 6 kgs in fact.
@bonifacelukosi9580
@bonifacelukosi9580 7 ай бұрын
the v6 alone is abnormally heavy, more than 100kg. check out scarbs talking about it
@bltzcstrnx
@bltzcstrnx Ай бұрын
How can the battery be heavier if the capacity stays the same? Do they adds rocks to the batteries now?
@jakekiedaisch2279
@jakekiedaisch2279 Ай бұрын
@@bltzcstrnx Higher discharge rate battery chemistries have a gravimetric density disadvantage when compared to lower discharge rate chemistries. Thus the same capcity weighs more since it needs to output more power and the chemistry needs to change for that to occur.
@Appletank8
@Appletank8 Ай бұрын
​@@bltzcstrnx probably bigger cables and cooling to handle the higher discharge/charge rate?
@Omeshan
@Omeshan 7 ай бұрын
Throw away the batteries, run on sustainable fuel. Weight solved, racing solved, still environment friendly.
@coolnessfactor1
@coolnessfactor1 7 ай бұрын
Not gonna happen because it will most likely work.
@mgers75
@mgers75 7 ай бұрын
We can only dream!
@felixarbable
@felixarbable 7 ай бұрын
pretty sure its the manufactureers that are pushing it as the technology is very valuable to them in their real world cars
@luked4587
@luked4587 7 ай бұрын
Not going to happen because the only reason why Ford and Audi joined is because of the increased hybridity.
@mgers75
@mgers75 7 ай бұрын
@@luked4587 Ford joined for marketing. I doubt they care tbh. They'd rather just slap an emblem on the RBPT than have to hire 200 engineers to make batteries and hybrid systems
@guitarsimon1
@guitarsimon1 7 ай бұрын
Honestly by time we get to 2026 no one will even talk about X or Z mode, it'll just be how the cars run, and manual override will be called MOM mode or something
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
I thought MOM means "Medal Of Millionaire".
@MMAli-rq8kd
@MMAli-rq8kd 7 ай бұрын
You're probably right! I think the front wing is the biggest pitfall! A small touch and you lose the active aero and your car becomes deathly dangerous! Front wing damage is a regular occurrence and wether you keep racing with the loss or stop to change it you can salvage your race , but with active aero wings I'm not sure how easy are they to change with actuaters, hydrolics and electronics in the front wing.
@georgythomas8451
@georgythomas8451 7 ай бұрын
​@@MMAli-rq8kdYou are right, and all this within an ever shrinking Budget. Imagine the cost of a damaged front wing! They will have to package and independent hydraulic or electronic system for controlling the front wing while ensuring that it is not fragile and can also be easily replaced during a pitstop.
@Johnny1371-1
@Johnny1371-1 7 ай бұрын
X-Games mode.
@T_Mo271
@T_Mo271 7 ай бұрын
Just call them Zoom and Whoa modes.
@jamsheehan
@jamsheehan 7 ай бұрын
I don't want to watch who can save the most energy tyres etc.. I want to see drivers and teams pushing to the limit of technology and what is physically possible at all times because that's what makes F1 attractive. It is infuriating to see cars 5 - 6 seconds slower on Sunday over Saturday. It's frustrating to see cars almost 150kg heavier than they should be and driving like tanks. 650kg (excluding driver) should be the limit with all the modern safety required in my opinion.
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 7 ай бұрын
Well considering pole time has always been around 4 seconds faster than the fastest lap time, you've been "infuriated" for decades
@Severi611
@Severi611 7 ай бұрын
This is an insane comment because we can literally tell you’re making it up as you go. If you only want to watch a series that “pushes the limit of technology at all times” you’ve been in the wrong place for the last 25 years. As mentioned above too - cars have been multiple seconds slower in the race vs quali for decades even with refueling. You been watching? You can’t even tell the difference between a 1:17 and 1:19 watching the car run (as evidenced by commentators like Martin on a weekly basis) so who cares? Outside of the extreme scenarios like Monaco this year you’re just searching for a problem that doesn’t exist
@Pastamistic
@Pastamistic 6 ай бұрын
They are literally pushing the limits of technology. That's exactly what these changes do with going as fast or faster while using less energy to do it over a race distance.
@fairsaa7975
@fairsaa7975 6 ай бұрын
I don't really give a toss about how fast the cars are, I just want good racing. If you want to see people "pushing to the limit of technology and what is physically possible" maybe just like... sign up to a science magazine or something?
@SkareEk
@SkareEk 5 ай бұрын
@@fairsaa7975 He means the technology in motor racing, don't play dumb 😆 I kinda agree but I mostly blame the cost cap... Even with strict restrictions if you keep researching and spending money you will always find a loophole or a workaround to make your car faster. I get that this makes the teams be closer but I think it's making it a bit static. I mean it took 1,5 year for a team to catch up to redbull which carried a penalty on windtunnel time on top of the cut off because of their first place.
@yungsoupbowl4187
@yungsoupbowl4187 7 ай бұрын
Yuki gonna win world championship in 2026 by weight difference, lets goooo!
@phillgizmo8934
@phillgizmo8934 7 ай бұрын
They use ballast to even out drivers weight differences. Your joke attempt is Japanophobic (that's a joke).
@DAGATHire
@DAGATHire 7 ай бұрын
@@phillgizmo8934 ohhh dear whats that? a bird? a plane? nope it... it appears to be the joke flying over your head
@NicholasLatipi
@NicholasLatipi 7 ай бұрын
@@DAGATHire The joke could only work on people who are ignorant of the technical rules. Obviously, phillgizmo did his homework, and the only thing he find comedic about it, is the OP's ignorance of the rule.
@DAGATHire
@DAGATHire 7 ай бұрын
@@NicholasLatipi OMG go outside you two and run around a rock or some shite.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
No. Possibly Norris.
@Stevelangdon93
@Stevelangdon93 7 ай бұрын
They should’ve opened certain areas of the combustion engine for development. Since 2014 they’ve pretty much mastered combustion control but engines are still limited with turbo geometry, the valve train etc Areas that could easily see the thermal efficiency of the engines improve even further
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
Turbo geometry in 2022 somehow even better than in 2014.
@Snakeyb
@Snakeyb 7 ай бұрын
They want them to drive electric rockets on wheels. It’s not about the cars or engines anymore, some tracks are struggling to get a race with these cars and they aren’t helping it.
@wss33
@wss33 3 ай бұрын
More like electric scooters. All stock. And enviromentally friendly, pegging friendly.
@thesighbored
@thesighbored 7 ай бұрын
I'm so glad to have witness the glory V10 era compared to this current nonsense of tire/power/battery/grandma management instead of pure all out racing.
@ChrisStoneinator
@ChrisStoneinator 6 ай бұрын
Wait till you hear about fuel
@michaeldelaney7271
@michaeldelaney7271 5 ай бұрын
Some of us experienced the inline 4, straight 6, straight 8, V-8, Flat 8, V-6, V-12, flat 12, H-16, V-16, P& W turbo-shaft and V-10 eras. They were all more interesting than the current "Prius Formula" cars. Of course they lacked any modern safety requirements. Mix those safety features in and turn the designers loose. Why couldn't Audi run inline 5's? Or, Ford run V-8's? Or, Ferrari V-12's? For that matter, how about a Honda 24 cylinder X engine (four banks of 6 cylinders)? Heavy as heck but crazy amounts of power at a gazillion rpm. Soon, we'll have electric scooters, with wings. Yippee. [please note the sarcasm]
@issahgyandi3365
@issahgyandi3365 3 ай бұрын
@@michaeldelaney7271 I loves those eras, but this year has produced some of the most compelling racing in a long time - that or Verstappen losing terrain has just made it seem that way.
@michaeldelaney7271
@michaeldelaney7271 3 ай бұрын
@@issahgyandi3365 I agree. As you said, we probably have Red Bull's lack of pace to thank for the apparent competitiveness. And, the regulations require almost identical cars and engines. Isn't it odd that since Adrian Newey said he was leaving, that Red Bulls have gotten less and less competitive? The team has said he "really wasn't all that important anymore." Really? These modern "Prius Formula" cars will never stir the blood like a howling Ferrari 12 (vee or flat), a Honda V10, a screaming Matra V-12 or even a good old Ford-Cosworth DFV V-8.
@viddykhaos2896
@viddykhaos2896 2 ай бұрын
@@michaeldelaney7271I cannot wait for the Byrd scooter F1 championship.
@fredrikhumlehagen9903
@fredrikhumlehagen9903 7 ай бұрын
Theory about the naming of the X and Z mode, based on experience from the automotive sector. Cars are designed in a coordinate system where the X-axis is longitudinal, Y is transversal an Z is vertical. Drag on a car is a force working in the X-direction while downforce works in the Z-direction, so it’s all fairly logical for an Engineer.
@ClonesDream
@ClonesDream 7 ай бұрын
They could've just called it active mode ON and OFF instead of some Star Wars X wing mode
@Igleas
@Igleas 7 ай бұрын
Too bad F1 isn't meant to be watched by engineers only X) Why not speed mode / grip mode so everyone can easily undestand ?
@haribo836
@haribo836 7 ай бұрын
Very true, for me as an engineer from the car industry it is totally logical and it is probably how the engineers were talking about the modes when developing them. But they should've taken a step away from their engineers mindset and make it more logical for others as well when they published their idea. A downforce mode and a drag reduction mode would have satisfied both.
@3Torts
@3Torts 5 ай бұрын
nailed it!
@3Torts
@3Torts 5 ай бұрын
@@haribo836 ...true enough, but we are acting like X and Z modes are difficult to understand. X and Z is pretty cool I think. I'm no engineer, but most everyone should be able to understand the X,Y and Z axis if they understand concepts like drag reduction and downforce?.... 10/10 name for me as a casual fan. Overall though, it seems like F1 is doing way to much with the formula these days. I'd like to see skilled/entertaining/competitive racing not sacrificed for engineering. Seems like F1 has just been making changes to make changes or for reasons that are not with great racing at the forefront? Cheers.
@modernkennnern
@modernkennnern 7 ай бұрын
Personally, I like (Granted, I might be vastly underestimating just how important it is) that the minimum weight is not guaranteed, but rather a goal to strive for for the teams.
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 7 ай бұрын
That way though is a sure fire way to have parts failure induced crashes like the early days that killed drivers. I think it’s better to make it easy to hit the limit. And certainly safer. And fairer. Big budget teams will just setup other businesses to study material science and that create super light components for some other sport (bicycles, cars, motorcycles) like they do now with boats, learning aero tricks that don’t abuse the cost cap. RB, Aston, Ferrari, McLaren and Mercedes all do this currently with sailing boats and other auto racing series like WEC and Indy. The divide will simply grow. I think it’s better to make targets affordable and let them spend money and talent on the aero and PU.
@ed_goblin
@ed_goblin 7 ай бұрын
I wish it was 600kg then.
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
@mitchell-wallisforce7859 7 ай бұрын
@@f.kieranfinney457 The concern about part failures is understandable but what really got drivers killed in the old days were the paper mâché construction of the chassis themselves. John Watson walking away from a hideous wreck in the 80's because of his carbon-tubbed McLaren MP4/1 proves this. Suspension pieces could snap now, but the cars themselves are so strong that the meatbags inside are usually fine. With that in mind, I'm with OP. The FIA puts these cars through crash-testing for a reason, so as long as they're passing those tests, I haven't a problem with hard-to-hit weight targets. For all the talk of leveling the playing field, F1 still has backmarkers. Even BoP classes have backmarkers. The divide will always exist, and if less-strictly defined limits mean that divide grows, I wouldn't care.
@olkkiman
@olkkiman 7 ай бұрын
it could be that if the engines are even remotely equal in power, whoever hits the minimum weight could dominate. but personally I think we should just go with these slightly radical rules and then start fixing them at the start of 26 once we see how the cars run
@111baf
@111baf 5 ай бұрын
That's what it always has been. Now the weight limit is also the goal to reach and teams were overweight in 2022. The goal is to be underweight so you can 'play' with the ballast placement and weight distribution.
@kristianfagerstrom7011
@kristianfagerstrom7011 7 ай бұрын
Frankly, I would like the cars to get a little bit smaller than that, but allow less restrictions on performance. That keeps the racing, since smaller cars allow for easier overtakes, and keeps the incentive for innovations.
@michaeldelaney7271
@michaeldelaney7271 5 ай бұрын
"Less restrictions on performance" sounds great for innovation and creativity, which is almost outlawed now. But smaller cars are faster cars (in a straight line) and faster cars have higher energy crashes so we have to watch out for "unintended consequences."
@fliptheswitch4
@fliptheswitch4 7 ай бұрын
Williams' complaints about the weight limit show their fear. Remember when Sauber was faster in 2022 because they met the minimum weight? That's the beauty of the weight limit. Vowles is worried because Williams is behind on reducing the car's weight and will likely struggle with the 2026 rules as well.
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 7 ай бұрын
Sauber even got shafted that year as they arbitrarily increased the minimum weight to 798kg even though they could reach the 795kg Probably cost them some points
@Kornn66
@Kornn66 7 ай бұрын
In the end it was actually bad for Sauber that they met the minumum weight. As at the start of 2022 everyone thought that they had good car but it was just cause other cars where overweight. When other team started to get the weight down Sauber was left in the back and they are still there.
@naufalkusumah2192
@naufalkusumah2192 7 ай бұрын
Sauber can only went below minimum weight cuz they made the wheelbase shorter, but as soon as others were able save weight even with longer wheelbase, Sauber can't improve as much in terms of aerodynamic performance since their chassis was limiting the performance
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
​@@Kornn66Alfa Romeo Sauber in 2022 actually done pretty well though.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
​@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1the same also in last year.
@SuperHornetX
@SuperHornetX 7 ай бұрын
"You should be lighter, more nimble." "You should have less downforce" "Here's a big ass battery" what a joke.
@JKR-s9v
@JKR-s9v 4 ай бұрын
2026 F1 car going to sound like a vacuum cleaner
@bltzcstrnx
@bltzcstrnx Ай бұрын
Sorry, but the battery capacity is the same as the previous one. I think people use the battery as scapegoat.
@AquaticBees
@AquaticBees 12 күн бұрын
It's not a joke, it's a step on the path to a sustainable racing machine that future generations can continue to enjoy as fossil fuels become obsolete. Also, the weight of the battery doesn't do anything to down force... Not sure what that added to your flippant response. Just complaining because the drivers might need to drive better? Idk.
@michaeldelaney7271
@michaeldelaney7271 7 ай бұрын
The "30% reduction in downforce" will probably start out as 15% during testing and end up being 1% by the start of the second season.
@pbutok
@pbutok 7 ай бұрын
Issue is they’ve given us absolutely no freedom in the draft rule set. Right now there is literally no freedom. Lots of geometry is prescribed by the fia. So there is no changing allowed by the teams.
@michaeldelaney7271
@michaeldelaney7271 7 ай бұрын
@@pbutok The 2026 rules are just another step on the road to a One Design Formula, like NASCAR and Indycar. The next set of regulations after that, will either require all teams to manufacture the same FIA design in their own shops or, simply eliminate the middleman and, require everyone to use an FIA supplied chassis manufactured by Dallara. Perhaps they will allow each team to apply any logo they wish to the cam covers of an FIA provided engine.
@Faiz_Azad-Khan
@Faiz_Azad-Khan 5 ай бұрын
In 2022 they lost 15 % this season they gained 10% compared to 2022 considering it isn’t a complete overhaul but more a tweak I think we will look at maybe a rough 8 tenths off the 2022 times
@pbutok
@pbutok 5 ай бұрын
@@Faiz_Azad-Khan again it’s not really about the outright speed. The issue with the current regs is freedom. They are so prescriptive there is very little room for any difference in design between different teams. That’s very anti f1 in my eyes.
@Faiz_Azad-Khan
@Faiz_Azad-Khan 5 ай бұрын
@@pbutok yeah but when there is freedom you’ll get stuff like DAS, blown diffusers, f ducts others will try and copy but fail or even completely ruin their season because back then we did not have the knowledge or data to come up with really crazy stuff but now we do and for safety and the integrity of the sport this is the solution
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 7 ай бұрын
Considering a lot of us understood easily Hypersoft,Ultrasoft,supersoft,soft, medium, hard, very hard tyres....the whole casual thing is nonsense. The casual fans that watch f1 now dont watch the racing they watch for their favourite drivers to thirst over.
@tarikviaer-mcclymont5762
@tarikviaer-mcclymont5762 7 ай бұрын
Super-duper softs gives you 6 laps
@chadchadchadchadchad
@chadchadchadchadchad 7 ай бұрын
Have they considered cute, very cute, and super cute settings for Ricciardo's smile? That's the only reason I watch. And because of the ROCKSTAR LIFESTYLES of the drivers.
@JJ-xt2dq
@JJ-xt2dq 7 ай бұрын
Bullshit lmao
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 7 ай бұрын
@@chadchadchadchadchad 😐
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 7 ай бұрын
@@JJ-xt2dq what?
@davifernandeslima01
@davifernandeslima01 7 ай бұрын
getting rid of the batteries solves alot of problems; weight, size, engine sound, cost, reliability
@Redskies453
@Redskies453 7 ай бұрын
We need someone to start a V10 open wheel racing series completely separate to F1. Watch the fans move over.
@matchoftheday3
@matchoftheday3 Ай бұрын
I was just thinking that
@Ariespradana13
@Ariespradana13 7 ай бұрын
9:07 Since 1950, F1™ always complicated, thats what i like
@dogger37JC
@dogger37JC 7 ай бұрын
Sounds much like the same stuff the media and teams say every time there’s a big regulation change. Most likely F1 will be its most competitive next season right before the new regulations and then reset back to being dominated by one team that nails the new regulations.
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 7 ай бұрын
So then why change?!!
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 7 ай бұрын
​@f.kieranfinney457 if there was no change, current cars would look like 1950s f1 cars.
@exiledcapybara1690
@exiledcapybara1690 7 ай бұрын
@@f.kieranfinney457 the cars change for three main reasons: improved safety, improved relevance in auto tech, to make the grid more competitive. For the last one if regulations don’t change the sport will see the dominance of one team for years on straight without giving opportunities for others to catch up without copying designs (i.e merc during 2014-2021)
@dogger37JC
@dogger37JC 7 ай бұрын
@@exiledcapybara1690 I disagree with your last part. History has shown that the longer the regulations stay consistent the more competitive it gets. Look at the seasons that led up to the big 2014 changes. It allows the teams that didn’t nail the regulations right out of the gate to catch up. The era you brought up the biggest problem was that Mercedes could still out develop everyone else. With the changes and restrictions on development for the top team that are in place now, that’s not as big of an issue. Just look at how Redbulls dominance is shrinking now. Personally I don’t think they need to make such drastic regulation changes to keep the sport progressing because it seems like they have no idea how to make the cars meet all of the needs for the racing to be competitive and exciting for everyone. I had high hopes for the current cars going back to ground effects but it’s been a big disappointment.
@dogger37JC
@dogger37JC 7 ай бұрын
@@f.kieranfinney457 I think they screwed up when they made the current regulations by allowing the cars to become so massive and they’re realizing how much it’s affecting the racing. I don’t know if they can ever get this right. Maybe if biofuels can sway the manufacturers to ditch the hybrid part so the cars can be lighter and smaller and go turbo V6. It doesn’t seem possible to achieve lower weight and size as long as they’re hybrids.
@Sr68720
@Sr68720 7 ай бұрын
Tbh I don't believe the teams, we have a constructors championship for a reason let them compete with difficult rules. Cars never end up being as slow as they say and after 2 years the development makes them 2 or 3 seconds faster anyway.
@Ariespradana13
@Ariespradana13 7 ай бұрын
💯 well said
@Hungary_0987
@Hungary_0987 7 ай бұрын
Exactly, I have faith in them figuring it out
@dogger37JC
@dogger37JC 7 ай бұрын
Exactly. They’ve said this same thing before and what you said always happens.
@RockSolitude
@RockSolitude 7 ай бұрын
Teams: the rules are obviously nonsense and badly thought out. Random people on the internet: nuh uh the rules are good actually 🤓
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 7 ай бұрын
FIA thought 22 regs would create close racing. They were wrong. They have admitted 26 cars will be slower. Who wants that? And it’s where they are slower that concerns me. We want high cornering speeds , high downforce and don’t really care about straight line. Without downforce they won’t be able to pass at corner entry because these cars will be unstable in transition, swapping Z to X mode. Everyone will have DRS on the straight so no overtaking there either. Does not add up to great racing. Sounds like DRS trains on steroids. Nope. Nope. Nope.
@Mtbbodhi
@Mtbbodhi 7 ай бұрын
I love the new focus on sustainability in the power unit, meanwhile the F1 procession jumps from one side of the world to the other every two weeks.
@danielraeburn3718
@danielraeburn3718 7 ай бұрын
Actually the calendar this year makes sense with 3 exceptions. Miami, Canada and Singapore. Canada can't be done with the rest of the Americas races due to weather so will always be a challenge. Miami can't be with the rest of Americas either because the stadium is in use for the NFL although we could definitely get rid of that event in my opinion. Singapore isn't ideal but the night race is a fixture and a street circuit so not easily moved but has a big gap after it for that reason
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
​@@danielraeburn3718the gaps between them can be quite severe.
@Coconutscott
@Coconutscott 7 ай бұрын
It's a joke, isn't it.
@CNCTEMATIC
@CNCTEMATIC 7 ай бұрын
Exactly - all these destructive measures make F1 maybe 0.0001% "more sustainable" - its all about appearances, and for appearances, they kill the sport
@paperplane-db8qf
@paperplane-db8qf 7 ай бұрын
You tool, the sustainable fuels and engine regs are meant to be carried over to the real world into road relevant technology. That’s the point of the new engine regulations.
@deabreu.tattoo
@deabreu.tattoo 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, a car that's fsst on the straights and slow in the corners means longer braking distances, which probably would lead to more overtakes (of the divebomb type at least)
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 7 ай бұрын
My point exactly. Corners also take longer so mid corner action is more likely. Win win win
@elLooto
@elLooto 7 ай бұрын
@@procatprocat9647 I'm for anything that makes F1 less like soccer (futball).... I can appreciate the skill of all involved, but its 90 minutes of eff all with 2 highlights.
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 7 ай бұрын
@elLooto yes I get that. Lots of fans feel like that, and F1 is losing them. The DTS effect was incredibly strong. The new fans were attracted by the Instagram style soap opera, and the racing was exceptional. They didn't know that it was an exceptional year, so they have been disappointed since and now leaving in their droves. Other fans enjoy other aspects of F1. It is incredibly technical - the level of technicality is only bounded by the ability of the fan to understand and appreciate it. Without fully appreciating the technical aspects, f1 in an average season will definitely come across as dry. The rules are being developed to improve this, but it is inherent that one team will often win the majority of races. The only way to avoid this is to run a spec series. You might enjoy indycar more. The cars are much closer in performance, and there is even more Instagram content than currently in f1. I personally would like the americanisation of f1 to be removed, and also the soap opera aspects removed. The gladiatoroal element needs to be accentuated by continued rule changes. I love the technical aspects, even the compromised decisions that are made. Understanding why a choice was made makes it more palatable.
@wss33
@wss33 3 ай бұрын
Which also means shit cars. If you want more overtaking and evenly competitive teams, go watch a fucking stock series.
@gabormiklay9209
@gabormiklay9209 7 ай бұрын
Just by slowing the cars down in the corners doesn't mean the cars will be more agile. Weight is the key factor when changing direction and fighting for position when cornering.
@T_Mo271
@T_Mo271 7 ай бұрын
Life is going to be difficult for the tires in the corners.
@rkentwenger5095
@rkentwenger5095 7 ай бұрын
I think the fundamental problem (which most sports don't have) is trying to balance the "sporting/entertainment" goals with the "relevant to the real world/keep the manufacturers happy" goals. I mean, in football nobody is saying the goal should be a different size because that's more relevant to the real world...
@FrancisFjordCupola
@FrancisFjordCupola 7 ай бұрын
Actually the size of the goals was increased at least once (because too small a goal is too easy to defend).
@peterthomas5792
@peterthomas5792 4 ай бұрын
There is no balance of the "sporting/entertainment" goals. Sport is entirely secondary.
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 7 ай бұрын
Racing should be improved by increasing top speed and slowing the corners. Braking distances will also be increased for increased overtaking time.
@andrewloera5641
@andrewloera5641 7 ай бұрын
Okay Indycar
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 7 ай бұрын
@@andrewloera5641 okay AR2L
@colinbowman8816
@colinbowman8816 7 ай бұрын
And making the cars smaller and narrower so they have more room to dice it up!
@jimw6659
@jimw6659 7 ай бұрын
Fatally flawed regs because of the ridiculous engine requirements which are going in completely the wrong direction. More electrical power = more weight = a killing of performance, all for a joke of a net zero fantasy.
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 7 ай бұрын
They wanted to lose weight but then said more batteries lmaoo And then Net Zero but reducing the efficiency of the engines by removing the MGU-H which is even causing more batteries to be used to try recover that power lmao Then you have the lack of electrical storage as well which means the ICE is going to be used as a generator for the batteries rather than you know…. As an engine lmao The engine regulations for 2026 is nonsense
@DanielDorn-tr7tw
@DanielDorn-tr7tw 7 ай бұрын
we already got Formula E for electric, why not run F1 on sustainable fuels? It would be actually more environmentally friendly than electric cars with their batteries made from child labor in third world mines
@mclarenjohnf1
@mclarenjohnf1 7 ай бұрын
I find it funny I have had many Vauxhall Astra's over the years I love the SRI 130bhp, I had a 2.0 SRI TDv130 BHP Then I had a 1.6 SRI Petrol, and now I have a 1.2 turbo 130 BHP SRI and here is the kicker no batteries you still feel the power when needed it is only a 3 cylinder engine. A couple of years ago this would have been called witchcraft.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
​@@mclarenjohnf1Vauxhall Astra SRi still is an underrated car till today.
@paperplane-db8qf
@paperplane-db8qf 7 ай бұрын
Literally all engine manufacturers wanted these regs. You think you know more? Maybe you can go build the engines since Honda, Mercedes, Renault, Audi would all leave F1 if they go in the opposite direction of these “fatally flawed regulations”.
@vt2077
@vt2077 7 ай бұрын
"Fears of being overtaken by endurance cars" WELCOME BACK GROUP C RACING WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@benjaminbrockway5998
@benjaminbrockway5998 7 ай бұрын
I mean, F1 has already been overtaken by the LMH/LMDh cars in terms of quality of racing.
@vt2077
@vt2077 7 ай бұрын
@@benjaminbrockway5998 i know that very much, but they were talking about laptime so it reminded me of the time endurance cars were so close to f1 cars in laptimes
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
@mitchell-wallisforce7859 7 ай бұрын
It's gonna take a helluva lot more than all this to bring F1 all the way down to Hypercar's level. Those things can barely surpass the lap records of pre-nerf Oreca 07 LMP2s. (EDIT: "Welcome back Group C" my ass. Made more power in race trim than the current cars are allowed to.)
@almabatekert_villanykorte3387
@almabatekert_villanykorte3387 7 ай бұрын
Yes now wec just needs to get rid of that massive paywall or at least make the price less ridiculous,and people might actually give a shit
@flapflapflapflap
@flapflapflapflap 7 ай бұрын
Died in 1992, born in 2024 Welcome back, GROUP C
@gtv6chuck
@gtv6chuck 7 ай бұрын
The regulations are gimmicks. They are basically de-tuning the engines to give more power to batteries and weirding out the aerodynamics in order to compensate for screwing around with the engine regs. They are reducing the car’s weights but at the same time forcing them to increase the battery size, which is about the heaviest thing in the cars. They are making racing a battle of fuel economy more than a human competition.
@TheOtherSock-728
@TheOtherSock-728 7 ай бұрын
Can't believe the FIA did't mandate larger mirrors.
@erasmus_locke
@erasmus_locke 7 ай бұрын
I'm a fan of the slower cornering and faster straights. Look at any other series and you'll notice the longer a car spends in a corner the longer there is for a pass to happen. Spec Miata and NASCAR are great examples
@samacw
@samacw 7 ай бұрын
Time under braking is usually the key issue rather than time in the corner.
@gauravsashikumar692
@gauravsashikumar692 7 ай бұрын
Instead of using the Active Aero in a similar way to DRS, they can leave it upto the drivers as to when they wish to use it, similar to KERS, that'll make the racing more driver-defined
@yodaddamilkman8422
@yodaddamilkman8422 7 ай бұрын
It’s pretty simple. Drop the batteries. Lighten the car. Make it smaller. Give it a beautiful ICE engine running on synthetic fuel. Make F1 great again. Oh, and bring back tire wars and maybe refueling…
@X.L.K
@X.L.K 3 ай бұрын
refueling is shit...way to many incidents with that, we dont need that.
@CazDoo
@CazDoo 7 ай бұрын
F1 is in accessible to casual fans anyway when you have to pay sky high subscription fees or a small mortgage to go to a race
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 7 ай бұрын
DTS viewing figures disagree with you.
@AudioJellyfish
@AudioJellyfish 7 ай бұрын
​@@procatprocat9647 DTS is Netflix, not Sky...
@TheBlacksun187
@TheBlacksun187 7 ай бұрын
Might as well make it a full electric car! Oh wait……
@kalebbruwer
@kalebbruwer 7 ай бұрын
It feels like some people within the FIA sees good racing as a secondary goal, with hybrid-tech development coming first. I understand the desire to develop that stuff, but it shouldn't hijack the entire sport
@jacobm2625
@jacobm2625 7 ай бұрын
It's pressure from eco-weenies, probably. Probably something from the EU, too
@AudioJellyfish
@AudioJellyfish 7 ай бұрын
Have a Formula hybrid league and leave F1 to be petrol only, the pinnacle of speed, sound etc.
@gabormiklay9209
@gabormiklay9209 7 ай бұрын
02:36 Grip comes from the tyres. We could see it in the first 10-12 laps of the Canadian GP. Haas had the extreme wet weather tyres with superior grip compared to the inters. But after the 15th lap the inters started to work producing more grip. And in Canada the majority of the corners are slow(er speed than usual tracks), so downforce is not building up in the corners and tyre grip is the limitation. Downforce comes from aero and it adds onto the existing grip, once the car has enough speed to create downforce. But without the tyres' grip, there is no downforce to stick the car onto the track. Just remember Turkey 2020 (or 2021?). The new surface + the rain didn't provide enough grip. The cars were on ice. And think about the everyday road car. It has no downforce, all the grip comes from the tyres (and also the car's weight, but that's not the key factor).
@GryphLane
@GryphLane 7 ай бұрын
Most normal fans don't care about them being slower as they do about being more exciting to watch
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 7 ай бұрын
Nah some (like myself) do, formula 1 needs to be the fastest category in motorsport by some distance There’s a reason the 2017 rules came about because the 2014 cars initially were the slowest cars since 1997ish it was quiet *and* slow
@night756
@night756 7 ай бұрын
That's very true
@haydenlongyear7527
@haydenlongyear7527 7 ай бұрын
As long as they are still able to ride all kerbs round corners, that's exciting!
@GryphLane
@GryphLane 7 ай бұрын
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 But what's the point in being able to hit 350km/h if it's just going to be a procession?
@martinlaver007
@martinlaver007 7 ай бұрын
I think very few fans want to see a slower car.
@firedell1031
@firedell1031 7 ай бұрын
These regs would be so much easier with something like 25%-30% electric power rather than 50%. I think it would also simplify quite a few things that need to be done for these cars.
@klakier19901
@klakier19901 7 ай бұрын
I don't want to say 'told you so', but the powertrain mess, where engine just works as battery charger? It was obvious from the beginning.
@MetalHeadReacts
@MetalHeadReacts 7 ай бұрын
Something I'm curious about... When it comes to the moveable front wing elements... If a driver stuffs the nose of their car into the rear of another Stroll-Style... How would changing the nose of a car work now? I mean, currently you just unscrew it, pull it off and stick a new one on... But if there are moveable elements, there must surely be power supplied to the nose, and given how much an F1 car jostles and bounces about, contacts within the structure surely wouldn't be suitable or reliable enough, which would suggest the use of plugs of some description which could easily be misaligned/broken when swapped quickly
@Dulano25
@Dulano25 7 ай бұрын
Put a V10/V8 on sustainable fuel in a smaller car like that, fck that recovery thing, and let the active aero!
@X2011racer
@X2011racer 7 ай бұрын
F6 Boxer engines or V4s would be interesting experiments.
@kartaltoth684
@kartaltoth684 7 ай бұрын
8:24 being slower than the current top level prototypes would be an immense and comical feat considering how badly nerfed the final regs for LMH (and LMDh as a result) ended up being. Like, they are straight up slower than an unnerfed LMP2.
@guttsu
@guttsu 7 ай бұрын
MotoGP is going full biofuel in 2027 and it would make so much sense for F1 to do the same. I've made this comment before but there are only so many fuel-producing companies out there, so there HAS to be sharing between the two sports, and it would benefit fuel producers to have multiple places to try their tech. Also, X and Z modes are terrible names. Did an engineer come up with this? We are generally terrible at naming things. It tells you NOTHING about what it is doing or related to.
@AdamMi1
@AdamMi1 Ай бұрын
Engineers don't come up with bad names. If an engineer names something it it explains itself. Something like x or z mode is what a marketing employee would call something. It sounds ridiculous and meaningless. Do not mix these two up.
@tturi2
@tturi2 7 ай бұрын
I just want them to go to 3L v8 turbo 1000hp engine, they can choose twin turbo or single turbo, or give them LMDh engine rules
@AA-db9cb
@AA-db9cb 7 ай бұрын
No batteries, just V10 ICE.
@tturi2
@tturi2 7 ай бұрын
I would like LMDh type rules, it would allow more manufacturers to use other engines
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
​@@tturi2like engines from Acura or Chevrolet?
@RD-wg9em
@RD-wg9em 7 ай бұрын
@@tturi2those rules are possible because of BoP though. I doubt F1 would accept a rules like that
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 7 ай бұрын
V10 F1 engines used 240kg of fuel. 2026 regs will use 80kg of fuel. Quarter of a tonne. You need to switch your brain on.
@MrGrieves
@MrGrieves 7 ай бұрын
​@procatprocat9647 yeah those batteries sure are light lmao
@newty6209
@newty6209 7 ай бұрын
I’m just afraid that maybe one race, the wings won’t change out of X mode and will lead the driver to crash due to the lack of downforce.
@LakinMoser
@LakinMoser 7 ай бұрын
“Too slow in the corners” sounds like another way of putting “more technical in the corners” ie rewards better, more precise driving and allows for some passing mid corner, kart-style. Is that not the case?
@brianvogt8125
@brianvogt8125 7 ай бұрын
That comment also had me baffled. Present the constructors with a challenge, and they will overcome it. At Monaco, they're already dealing with the Lowes/Fairmont Hairpin.
@wss33
@wss33 3 ай бұрын
No, that's not the case.
@kingofnotts9048
@kingofnotts9048 7 ай бұрын
Just drop the battery and hybrid system weight issue solved
@metaliczic96
@metaliczic96 7 ай бұрын
That will be implemented for 2030 regulation (i hope).
@Hungary_0987
@Hungary_0987 7 ай бұрын
​@@metaliczic96same, as much as I support 2026, it would still be better
@dogger37JC
@dogger37JC 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately they would lose the engine manufacturers too
@metaliczic96
@metaliczic96 7 ай бұрын
@@dogger37JC Yes. That is also the issue. Removing hybrid/battery system will make other PU/engine manufacturers like Honda & Audi lose their interest in F1.
@Ariespradana13
@Ariespradana13 7 ай бұрын
​@@metaliczic96Damn, i dont want back to factory reset (just Ferrari, Mercedes, Renault, and RBPT 🗿)
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 7 ай бұрын
Make the batteries smaller
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 7 ай бұрын
Bigger fuel tanks to compensate?
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 7 ай бұрын
@@procatprocat9647 Bigger V8 or V10 engines
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 7 ай бұрын
@SilverScarletSpider so bigger fuel tanks? V10s used 240kg of fuel. 2026 will use 80kg. Do you want quarter of a tonne of petrol in the car at the start? Is that your dream?
@dutch6947
@dutch6947 7 ай бұрын
KERS era provided some great racing. A shame they abandoned it completely.
@sh-spectrum409
@sh-spectrum409 7 ай бұрын
I think the majority of fans have stopped caring about the teams complaining about slower lap times and just want to see good and exciting races.
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 7 ай бұрын
When the lights go out it's all that matters.
@canismajoris6733
@canismajoris6733 7 ай бұрын
thats because the cars are fast now. if we go back to slow cars everybody will remember how bad 2014 sucked
@wss33
@wss33 3 ай бұрын
False.
@robertking6928
@robertking6928 7 ай бұрын
It would make sense for f1 to be the fastest series, but I really do think that entertainment and the ability to race should take priority. F1 has so many new fans due to Netflix. How long are they going to stick around with 1 or 2 good races per year?
@wss33
@wss33 3 ай бұрын
Oh please, if F1 had just stuck with common sense they wouldn't need to use the american netflix brainwashing propaganda in the first place. If you put entertainment in the first place, you get america, a fucking circus, a fake scripted show, a bunch of bullshit.
@drippykermit8984
@drippykermit8984 7 ай бұрын
Bring back the V8's or V10's with sustainable biofuel, It would solve a lot of problems.
@54_ocram46
@54_ocram46 7 ай бұрын
V8 would be way more realistic. Almost no manufacturers use V10s.
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 7 ай бұрын
OEMs don’t use V10s anymore Only Lambo/Audi and Lexus really use V10 in their cars it’s not feasible that manufacturers want V10
@LUMINOX.
@LUMINOX. 7 ай бұрын
그게 해결책 인가요😅
@analex4044
@analex4044 7 ай бұрын
The FIA are incapable of doing this.
@pacman6001
@pacman6001 7 ай бұрын
​@@LUMINOX. Could be buddy.... Could be.. Let's hope.
@jerrybarrax5618
@jerrybarrax5618 5 күн бұрын
Fascinating report. I'm looking forward to seeing the new cars in action, but I don't see how they're going to manage traction and lateral Gs in the corners with smaller tires.
@BlueMonk25
@BlueMonk25 7 ай бұрын
Guess Ferrnando may finally get his GP2 engine.
@bbbenj
@bbbenj 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for these explanations 👍
@Deeplycloseted435
@Deeplycloseted435 7 ай бұрын
So the biggest problem, the cars being much too large, isn’t addressed?
@Jaco_Schutte
@Jaco_Schutte 7 ай бұрын
Large and heavy. Both issues caused by the hybrid powertrain. But looks like this is the hill they want to die on.
@danielraeburn3718
@danielraeburn3718 7 ай бұрын
They're shrinking the cars, it's a start. The heavy will come next, but F1 doesn't get fully sustainable fuel until 2026 so would have been a huge gamble to do the full switch back to ICE at once.
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 7 ай бұрын
Marginally smaller car but much heavier PU. Narrowing tires seems really dumb. 16” would make them Lighter and easier to see over for drivers. It’s such an obvious choice. I’d rather see active suspension to an active aero. It’s going to cause a lot of instability in transit from straight to corner. Dive bombs will be super dicey. More crashes. Much slower corner speeds is NOT F1. It’s supposed to be the sport’s signature feature. These new cars will be like IndyCars. Yuck. Maybe slightly better on street tracks but awful on the proper race tracks. Maybe that’s the plan? Turn the whole series into street racing.
@T_Mo271
@T_Mo271 7 ай бұрын
You can't really have a heavy and small F1 car.
@alexshank1414
@alexshank1414 7 ай бұрын
We want straight line speed, we want racing, smaller cars, and a better exhaust note!
@TGfoever
@TGfoever 7 ай бұрын
I am not optimistic about the quality of racing we’re about to see. I hope I’m wrong, but this feels like it will take a few years for any team to get right if they ever do.
@Birdman_18
@Birdman_18 7 ай бұрын
Easiest solution is to reduce the electrical engine size and increasing the ICE size. Will provide more power and reduce the weight. Done.
@roadrunner6224
@roadrunner6224 7 ай бұрын
I dont care if they are slower. The way F1 is shot you don't see the speed of the cars anyway.
@privateinformation2960
@privateinformation2960 7 ай бұрын
this is nothing new. i think my first gp was 89 in adelaide. unless you know someone in one of the surrounding buildings somewhere like adelaide or melbourne you go check out the atmosphere on friday/saturday but you stay home on sunday to watch the race. doesnt apply in a lot of places, the Australian Unity building across from Albert Park you can see the whole lot (got to watch from there a couple of times, and worked at the gp a couple of years), but i dont think theres anywhere in Monaco for instance you can do that, and certainly not on purpose built non city centre races. If youre actually working there and would have to be there sunday you *always* work night shifts. clock off 10am with a full all access pass and a 'im meant to be here' uniform is great fun.
@Jaco_Schutte
@Jaco_Schutte 7 ай бұрын
Let them race tractors but just add anime style speed lines in post.
@donaldlee8249
@donaldlee8249 7 ай бұрын
Let them race soap boxes then, you don’t care about speed anyway
@RichieAsmus
@RichieAsmus 7 ай бұрын
I always thought they should have a few static cameras on the track walls. Like at the indy 500 with the flowers being blown around by the air of the cars going past over 200mph. It really shows the speed.
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 7 ай бұрын
Top speed isn’t important, he’s right. But corner speed IS. They’ve got it completely backwards.
@ma61king
@ma61king 27 күн бұрын
Mandate sizes back to the 90's era, get rid of the hybrid crap and allow any engine configuration you like as long as you achieve fuel consumption parity
@michaeloneil3653
@michaeloneil3653 7 ай бұрын
Wec seems more together than F1
@fix0the0spade
@fix0the0spade 7 ай бұрын
Every time they bring up the active aero, I have visions of a driver suffering a double wing failure at the bottom of Eau Rouge. I believe I can fly...
@jims6614
@jims6614 7 ай бұрын
More nimble is the same as agile. These rules don't allow active aero, it's just front and rear drs. Active aero allows the car to continuously adjust wing levels throughout the lap.
@patrickwhite4449
@patrickwhite4449 7 ай бұрын
Active aero is just that, aero components that are active and not static. They don’t need to be run by a computer analyzing every corner improving lap times each lap.
@jims6614
@jims6614 7 ай бұрын
@@patrickwhite4449 active suspension is a case in point, it adjusts to the unique demands of a corner. The 2026 system is just drs.
@drumnbasssakuga9352
@drumnbasssakuga9352 7 ай бұрын
Any aero elements that purposefully change position while driving is active aero, it doesn’t matter who or what is controlling them 🙄
@EliasStrategies
@EliasStrategies 7 ай бұрын
The level of speed cars are traveling at doesn’t determine good racing. Slowing them down, less grip, making it difficult on the drivers rather than giving them a car on rails, is what does make good racing. It’s not rocket science to figure out why racing has gotten worse all over the world the past few decades - technology made the cars easier to drive. If you actually like and know good racing, you should be cheering this decision.
@acerusea5156
@acerusea5156 7 ай бұрын
The weight issue can be solved by removing the batteries and replacing the V6 Turbo engine with a V10
@drunkenhobo8020
@drunkenhobo8020 7 ай бұрын
The batteries that weigh 25 kg? Wow, I'm sure we'll see a massive difference!
@dylansmit3883
@dylansmit3883 7 ай бұрын
​@@drunkenhobo8020 It's a long way toward that 30 kg Alonso seems to think is impossible, so yes.
@ImperialKnowledge
@ImperialKnowledge 5 ай бұрын
Really curious to see how the ruleset will perform once it's actually underway in 2026
@KAMiKAZOW
@KAMiKAZOW 7 ай бұрын
Teams vetoed front axle electric motor and now bitch and whine that the car would be too slow. Fine, add the front motor then. Will also recuperate more energy.
@rumpelstiltskn5574
@rumpelstiltskn5574 7 ай бұрын
...the regs. are yet to be made public, they only showed us a concept car
@RockSolitude
@RockSolitude 7 ай бұрын
Literally everyone: we want smaller, lighter more agile cars with freer engine regulations using sustainable fuel allowing for better sounding engines. The FIA: the best I can do is large heavy cars keeping the same engine but with reduced power for a 50/50 hybrid energy split. Oh and the cars can't use their full power for 70% of the race.
@Chris-sm2uj
@Chris-sm2uj 7 ай бұрын
fans are not engineers kid
@GaryBickford
@GaryBickford 7 ай бұрын
A much simpler change that would dramatically improve passing would be to reduce the maximum width of the car by 10 cm and accomplish this primarily by reducing tire width and requiring wing total width to be another 10 cm narrower than the tire track. I expect this would also make the turns more dramatic with cars much closer to drifting. Tgis in turn would drive a harder tire compound, which would also make turns even more dramatic. I'd love to see competitions likecthe old days, with two cars going into a turn side by side, bith drifting madly. This would be uncommon through most of a race because of the wear cost, but toward the end of a race when the win or a championship is on the line, two drivers desperate to beat the other would be going all out.
@JScott-lg4jb
@JScott-lg4jb 7 ай бұрын
I don’t even care about that set of regs- I care about the small comments made that with green fuel we could go back to V8s and no more hybrid engines
@carlaspinall7418
@carlaspinall7418 Ай бұрын
Back to the 2010 era🏎️
@JayJayGee1313
@JayJayGee1313 7 ай бұрын
Who cares if it’s slower if we get good racing! You can’t really tell the difference on tv between 220mph and 180mph and the differences will like be way less drastic anyway like the last few times they’ve claimed the cars will be much slower! I just want good races!!!
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 7 ай бұрын
The good racing requires high downforce and corner speeds to make those epic overtakes we love. Top speed doesn’t matter. Downforce does. And these regs get that part way wrong. Racing will suffer.
@yuriibondar3757
@yuriibondar3757 7 ай бұрын
lots of downforce means cars can't follow each other closely, I'd trust the actual experts at FIA to make the racing exciting@@f.kieranfinney457
@nielsvanheteren
@nielsvanheteren 7 ай бұрын
Why aren't you watching running or cycling then? If the speed, sound, looks etc. don't matter go and watch any other kind of racing. I care about the racing and even with lower speeds, these regs will ruin it. No drag is the death of slipstreams. No DRS means overtakes will become rare beyond imagination. And a energy button which will double your bhp means defending will become easier than ever since you only use it in overtaking spots. Go and enjoy watching net zero processions from 2026 onwards, I'm out after 2025.
@wss33
@wss33 3 ай бұрын
Why are you watching F1 then if you're such a fan of closer racing? Go watch a stock series.
@mickchaganis6607
@mickchaganis6607 7 ай бұрын
Such big changes....... What about an all teams generic car to test the technologies, a percentage of all teams budget and resources put into development of 2 or 3 test cars. We would be able to see how technologies work and don't work and how the cars interact with each other on the track.
@承達蔡-n7h
@承達蔡-n7h 7 ай бұрын
They should delay the new regulations. And why reduce the grip from the floor
@Ariespradana13
@Ariespradana13 7 ай бұрын
Delay delay delay again, Big no
@Hungary_0987
@Hungary_0987 7 ай бұрын
Reduces grip= more skill, more racing, mire tricky
@RD-wg9em
@RD-wg9em 7 ай бұрын
@@Hungary_0987also cuts the impact of the diffuser. Allows the cars to be run less stiffly and makes rain spray have less of an impact
@wss33
@wss33 3 ай бұрын
@@Hungary_0987 Reduces grip = slower than a fucking road car.
@BadMojo92x
@BadMojo92x 7 ай бұрын
If they're gonna do this many changes to the cars, they need to let the drivers actually drive them on test tracks more instead of making them use simulators.
@geoffbuck6890
@geoffbuck6890 7 ай бұрын
I’m reminded how when Grand Prix cars changed from 2.5l to 1.5l for 1962 everyone said it would be a disaster and slow however the 1.5l era led to some glorious racing…
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
@mitchell-wallisforce7859 7 ай бұрын
If your point with this comment is that hysteria over new rules rarely leads anywhere, then fair enough I guess. That said, we're at a point now where the teams have to politick their way to a less restrictive set of rules, versus 1962 where the rulebook was barely any thicker than a laptop. Far more significant evolution was possible then v. now, so I don't think we can rely on the engineers to breakdance around the rules the way they used to (at least, not as much). I might be wrong though. That, and something else: the 1.5L cars are largely overshadowed by the 3.0L cars that directly succeeded them for a reason.
@potatogirlcultist19
@potatogirlcultist19 7 ай бұрын
On the contary, I remember in 68.4Ma when they banned the T-Rex for being too large, and the pterodactyls ended up dominating by just flying over everyone else.
@geoffbuck6890
@geoffbuck6890 7 ай бұрын
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 You are absolutely correct in your interpretation of my view on such “hysteria”. You also right about how the 3l formula and how it led to what in my view was probably the greatest era in F1…
@RD-wg9em
@RD-wg9em 7 ай бұрын
It’s also worth noting the rules are immature and negotiations will almost certainly result in changes being made.
@nielsvanheteren
@nielsvanheteren 7 ай бұрын
The science and math just doesn't add up on this. If you make your cars very low drag slipstreaming will cease to exist. Simultaneously removing DRS will make the overtaking problem even worse. And 50% of your PU output being from electric energy for harvesting capabilities are way too low in the new regs to be able to use consistently in a race, means defending drivers will have an easy time defending with double the power by only using it in overtaking zones whilst attacking drivers need to use it to keep up with them through the dirty air. The change you mention only made the cars a bit slower, something easily offset by the big developments of aero in that time. Those developments are way smaller now with more restrictive rules meaning its hard to make cars a lot faster in a short amount of time. It also opens up the door for one team getting it very right and dominating like Merc did in 2014 who had no competition for 3 seasons straight.
@zlatan_2197
@zlatan_2197 7 ай бұрын
V8's with biofuel, remove the battery, bring back refuelling and drive-through penalties to avoid having car trains stuck behind one driver driving like a maniac. Is that so hard?
@jonathandunn730
@jonathandunn730 7 ай бұрын
Dropping the MGU-H is a joke. They're well developed and reliable, and fundamentally are a pinnacle of efficiency and using less fuel which i thought was the whole point. Just freeze them and keep using them with more battery power.
@defenda1
@defenda1 7 ай бұрын
Yes I liked the concept too. Complicated, sure, but a great way of maximizing ICE efficiency
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 7 ай бұрын
Super expensive to develop and make though. Which keeps out new manufacturers. Kinda heavy though not as bad as giant batteries!
@chrisc475
@chrisc475 7 ай бұрын
"It's not rocket science" Rocket SCIENCE is fairly straightforward. Rocket ENGINEERING is bloody difficult.
@maxime_j
@maxime_j 7 ай бұрын
It feels like they need 5 more years to be ready, not 2. Rn it seems that everything is in complete shambles
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 7 ай бұрын
And the field has finally tightened too with the wind tunnel restrictions doing their job. This and next season look to be extremely competitive. Why change ‘26 and then again in ‘30? Make the chassis changes in ‘26 and then PU in ‘30. By then the global car market will have stabilized and we’ll know where the tech is headed so manufacturers can capitalize on their F1 research. It would help bring in GM and allow Audi more time too. Maybe even Toyota would consider, if renewable fuels are a bigger part. EV sales are slowing. Every country seems to be back peddling on full electric. Let’s wait!
@maxime_j
@maxime_j 7 ай бұрын
@@f.kieranfinney457 yes honestly i dont get why they want to rush things this much. Current regs are only 3 years old… and honestly, i dont remember any team being so worried about 2022 regs back in 2020…
@maxime_j
@maxime_j 7 ай бұрын
@@f.kieranfinney457 + X-mode and Z-mode wtf are those names 💀
@kevinhogg9494
@kevinhogg9494 7 ай бұрын
My only complaint about the new rules , is that the teams have too much say in the righting of the rules
@Przemro9
@Przemro9 7 ай бұрын
Green tech should have never entered F1, its such a nieche and specific sport it should have a free hand in my view. In the same vein we haven't stopped racing horses just because cars exist, F1 should be allowed to just use whatever they want to make 1. Racing exciting and 2. Enable drivers at every point to show off their skills, not pander to green lobby. There are 20 of these cars racing every week or 2 weeks, how much difference do they think becoming green will make to the environment :P
@Mtbbodhi
@Mtbbodhi 7 ай бұрын
I agree completely. It’s all greenwashing. And nobody mentions how much they travel all over the world during a season. Maybe make their cargo planes run off biofuel?
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 7 ай бұрын
F1 is a test bed for car tech. Efficiency is vital for all cars and therefore for F1.
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 7 ай бұрын
@@Mtbbodhi they will get to synthetic fuels for planes. That would help even more than using it in cars. Short flight planes can be electric too. The cargo ships the move team gear around the world could definitely benefit from alt fuels like hydrogen converting to electricity to drive E-motors. Diesel electric trains have been a thing for decades and could swap to hydrogen. It’s possible to make diesel electric transport trucks (being done in BC right now) which means synthetic fuel or hydrogen ICE to electric trucks are possible. All good targets. But it’s the F1 cars that get all the eyeballs. If you want to show new tech, improve efficiency (everyone agrees efficiency is good), then you put the tech in the F1 cars.
@solwidotnl
@solwidotnl 7 ай бұрын
I wouldn't have watched F1 it it was similar to horse racing. That's an old sport that might be exciting to some, but not very inspirational or modern. The use of cutting edge technology in F1 is what makes it interesting. I personally love the added complexity in strategy and all the metrics you get to see.
@Przemro9
@Przemro9 7 ай бұрын
@@f.kieranfinney457 I agree but I think F1 is also and I would argue primarly racing, I think they should have go all in on synthetic fuel, we know it works so as cutting edge sport not invest in something that will change everything.
@georgedanilov8898
@georgedanilov8898 7 ай бұрын
Cars getting increasingly more complex, expensive(?) and difficult to master for drivers Every regulations change - it’s like entering a different racing series for drivers. By the time drivers get truly adjusted, feel these new cars and are capable of fine/intuitive control required for great racing - regs are changed again and we’re back to square one, drivers having to fight new cars instead of each other
@saisatvikreddy3301
@saisatvikreddy3301 7 ай бұрын
1:33 grand prix drivers association director??????
@GryphLane
@GryphLane 7 ай бұрын
He has been for years. It shouldn't be a surprise by now
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 7 ай бұрын
He gets away with more shenanigans than any other driver. Now you know why.
@GryphLane
@GryphLane 7 ай бұрын
@@f.kieranfinney457 No he doesn't 🤣
@jims6614
@jims6614 7 ай бұрын
If the mgu-h was such a problem, why not make it a spec part. Road cars are now getting mgu-h powered turbos to linkage to road reliance is slipping. Road cars are keeping combustion and going biofuel, so why not match. F1 is a sport, powered by fans. The FIA should have surveyed fans to see what they want, like MotoGP did.
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 7 ай бұрын
This is a brilliant idea. 👏
@Chris-sm2uj
@Chris-sm2uj 7 ай бұрын
f1 is a sport powered by manufacturers no manufacturers no cars
@somethingfunny6867
@somethingfunny6867 7 ай бұрын
active aero has a major problem. less slipstreaming in the straights and more dirty air in the corners.
@Hungary_0987
@Hungary_0987 7 ай бұрын
But it doesnt create dirty air, otherwise it wohldnt exist
@RecklessBikesTV
@RecklessBikesTV 7 ай бұрын
@@Hungary_0987 The teams will find a way to outwash as much air as possible, that's why the rules change every so often, so that the teams can just keep perfecting and bending over and over.
@omerosman1280
@omerosman1280 7 ай бұрын
@@Hungary_0987 bruhh no race car creates no dirty air...
@RockSolitude
@RockSolitude 7 ай бұрын
@@Hungary_0987 wrong assumption
@somethingfunny6867
@somethingfunny6867 7 ай бұрын
@@Hungary_0987 with active aero you run the monaco aero package for the corners and the monza package for the staights.
@mondodimotori
@mondodimotori 7 ай бұрын
Speed and aerodinamic downforce make overtaking harder. If people want more close racing, we need slower cars in the corners by reducing downforce generated by the wings, thus slowing down cars.
@vatsaldvora
@vatsaldvora 7 ай бұрын
Messing with the sport for entertainment purposes. The sad Netflix era of F1
@thefifthGV
@thefifthGV 7 ай бұрын
This is the best comment
@MichaelEilers
@MichaelEilers 7 ай бұрын
Awesome, more drivers futzing around with the wheel controls the entire lap, and the win going to the best futzer. That’s definitely the pinnacle of Motorsport.
@quadrantalerror1121
@quadrantalerror1121 7 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for Formula 2 to become the pinnacle of motorsport in 2026
@minimalistic_banhaus
@minimalistic_banhaus 7 ай бұрын
There will be absolutely no paint on the cars with the new weight limit.
@zee6100
@zee6100 7 ай бұрын
More agile and nimble but F2 slow in corners ? Yawn lol
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
Superformula actually as nimble as F1 cars now.
@wss33
@wss33 3 ай бұрын
Amen.
@ImInLoveWithBulla
@ImInLoveWithBulla 7 ай бұрын
Cars become fast. FIA introduces rules to make them slow. Cars become slow. FIA introduces rules to make them fast. Cars become fast. FIA introdu….
@gallenushi4180
@gallenushi4180 7 ай бұрын
actually we should be asking: what IS the pinnacle of motorsport? will 2026 affect this debate in f1's favor?
@zatti9153
@zatti9153 7 ай бұрын
lmao hi nando
@gallenushi4180
@gallenushi4180 7 ай бұрын
@@zatti9153 damn ive been found lmao
@hughjainisis1683
@hughjainisis1683 7 ай бұрын
50/50 split is so dumb. V8 or v10s with a smaller hybrid unit plus sustainable, or better yet, no hybrids at all.
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