Why F1's most broken driver line-up can't be saved

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Күн бұрын

Alpine’s warring F1 drivers Esteban Ocon and Pierre Gasly had a dramatic collision in the Monaco Grand Prix that sparked outrage from team principal Bruno Famin, who threatened more consequences for Ocon, who was to blame.
It happened before, it’s inevitably happened again, and that means there’s only way F1’s most untenable driver line-up goes from here: it has to end.
It’s not the first time they’ve clashed as team-mates and unless Alpine punishes Ocon so severely he never drives for the team again, there’s a very good chance it won’t be the last.
00:00 More Alpine drama
02:00 Self-inflicted
04:22 Not a shock
06:49 The only way out
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@wisanu99
@wisanu99 28 күн бұрын
Oscar Piastri dodged the bullet big time.
@FabledGentleman
@FabledGentleman 28 күн бұрын
Piastri is an intelligent and very focused human being. And he has the right people around him to give him proper advice. I believe Piastri is the next big name in the sport, he is going to let the driving do the talking and just make wise decisions.
@RACECAR
@RACECAR 28 күн бұрын
Between this guy and the awful upper management at Alpine, he's dodged several. Helps that his manager Mark Webber was also seeing the signs that something was up.
@ringoferrer2343
@ringoferrer2343 28 күн бұрын
he didn't dodge a bullet, he dodged an entire fucking canon
@michaelcobbin
@michaelcobbin 28 күн бұрын
@@FabledGentleman Piastri has the same raw speed that Verstappen and Vettel had early in their F1 careers without being accidental-prone. I have yet to see Piastri cause an accident in an F1 race, dispute having outright aggression in overtaking. His tyre management challenges will be addressed by the end of the year. In addition, Piastri is happy to be a team player. Zak Brown would be more than happy with his $20 million decision.
@thisaraperera3678
@thisaraperera3678 28 күн бұрын
In hindsight it's hilarious some people blamed him for not being loyal to the team that brought him through their academy. No loyalty needed when the the team is inwardly and outwardly a dumpster fire.
@crispybanana3198
@crispybanana3198 28 күн бұрын
ah yes the years old nemesis of french people... other french people
@KA-om9oz
@KA-om9oz 28 күн бұрын
The sexual tension has been too much for the two
@aj897
@aj897 28 күн бұрын
@@KA-om9oz Always one weirdo making up stuff, you secretly hating who you want to be with doesn’t mean everyone does that.
@Vahron
@Vahron 28 күн бұрын
As a French, can confirm. We hate all each other, it's in our blood.
@KA-om9oz
@KA-om9oz 28 күн бұрын
@@aj897 it’s a joke Karen. Get triggered much? Hahaha
@RACECAR
@RACECAR 28 күн бұрын
@@aj897 Lighten up, its a joke. Its not that deep.
@ankitbera1482
@ankitbera1482 28 күн бұрын
Ocon vs Gasly, Ocon vs Alonso, Ocon vs Perez -------- All these 3 battles proved who is to blame here. Ocon needs to go.
@zlm4869
@zlm4869 28 күн бұрын
It was Perez, when they were tm8s lol, what you on about
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 28 күн бұрын
Yes, there's an obvious trend.
@jkliao6486
@jkliao6486 28 күн бұрын
@@zlm4869 And it's obviously Alonso and Gasly in the other two cases, Ocon is clearly the cleanest and most innocent driver in all three cases.
@zlm4869
@zlm4869 28 күн бұрын
@@jkliao6486 nice sarcasm it suits you
@nathanb286
@nathanb286 28 күн бұрын
I’d rather have him being fast and having a few clashes rather than someone else like Jack Doohan that would be further off the pace
@Alcatraz760
@Alcatraz760 28 күн бұрын
I find the comparisons to Kmag that some people love to point out hilarious. Kmag is the polar opposite of Ocon. Kmag will make dumb and risky decisions exclusively to other teams, has never put hulkenberg as risk, and will happily sit behind hulkenberg creating a train if it means hulkenberg and haas score a point. Every team would rather deal with kmag's shenanigans than Ocon's.
@SanchezS1998
@SanchezS1998 28 күн бұрын
True. KMag’s antics have only ever hurt Hulk once, and whether or not it was his or Perez’s fault is up to who you ask.
@lukas_jay243
@lukas_jay243 28 күн бұрын
Until he wiped them both out trying to stay ahead of Hulk behind Perez.
@swidr5626
@swidr5626 28 күн бұрын
They are both like sodium and chlorine tho so maybe joining them together isn't such a bad idea?
@Alcatraz760
@Alcatraz760 28 күн бұрын
@@SanchezS1998 At least never an intentional attack on hulk. In that monaco crash, kmag only focused on perez, and hulk's positioning was just unfortunate. Had hulk been in perez's place, kmag would've never made that lunge and would've stayed back.
@MuhammadNiz007
@MuhammadNiz007 28 күн бұрын
But every team will take a fast driver like ocon who may be selfish can drive car faster. Alpine trying to suit the car to Gasly's driving style hasn't really helped the fact Ocon has so far destroyed Galsy
@lil3033
@lil3033 28 күн бұрын
The race has probably been sitting on this video since gasly to alpine was confirmed
@tiax1592
@tiax1592 26 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 history always repeats itself
@scottmeredith3359
@scottmeredith3359 28 күн бұрын
Seems like Gasly cares about beating their rivals, and Ocon has only ever cared about beating his teammates. As long as Ocon is beating Gasly he doesn’t care how slow they are, while Gasly seems outraged he can’t race further up the field. Ocon has never showed any maturity racing his teammates.
@alanluscombe8a553
@alanluscombe8a553 28 күн бұрын
I agree. Gasley has always had good relationships with his team mates. I used to hate Pierre but I like him now and ocon has not matured or progressed with teammates at all he has been doing these things for years. I do think a lot of drivers would go for that gap at Monaco but ocon is not going to improve
@joseagui4924
@joseagui4924 28 күн бұрын
Exactly! Finally someone has some common sense. It is true, people deny Ocon being a pain by saying he’s faster than Gasly- he’s faster, not a better driver. I’ve already spouted a lot about it across this comment section, but yeah! He’s too much of a pain for both F1 and Alpine
@4vepvik781
@4vepvik781 28 күн бұрын
Ocon has become a more toxic version of Grosjean..Crash happy..Never behaved like that before.
@arnoldmbuthia2687
@arnoldmbuthia2687 28 күн бұрын
Why tf would you hate à driver??? Were you à teenager or younger perhaps?? That's too immature​@@alanluscombe8a553
@MediocreAverage
@MediocreAverage 28 күн бұрын
And side-point: ocon's social media apology wasn't really an apology either. It was one of those where all these reasons for an apology are given, but none of them address what the issue was.
@rishabh3150
@rishabh3150 28 күн бұрын
Honestly, fair play to Webber and Zak Brown in orchestrating Mclaren's swoop of Piastri.. otherwise we wouldn't be seeing Piastri's true pace at Mclaren and he would be stuck in that hell-hole ..
@Hecate24
@Hecate24 28 күн бұрын
Piastri is so lucky to have a fellow aussie to look after him. a well connected and respected one too. glad he didn't get to sign to that dumpster fire of a team
@hbrown689
@hbrown689 27 күн бұрын
I'm still convinced Webber and Alonso had discussions to time Alonso's announcement that he was leaving with Alpines option on Piastri running out so that they could both escape
@titancheat
@titancheat 28 күн бұрын
Piastri made the right move. Driving for Renault/alpine as well as along with ocon is not the move..
@aj897
@aj897 28 күн бұрын
Seems like French teams have fights for weird reasons, I heard the English and French speaking employees stay at different hotels……
@InvertedFreeSolo
@InvertedFreeSolo 28 күн бұрын
Has to be up there with the best driver moves in history tbh. He'd be stuck with Ocon at the back of the grid instead of fighting for podiums in the MCL38.
@Peachrocks5
@Peachrocks5 28 күн бұрын
There were always signs things weren't right at Alpine. I think Riccardo leaving the team was the first red flag. A pity he never got to grips with the McLaren and everything that happened after but the move at least was strategically sound. There are things that are not right within that team and it's not just the drivers that show this.
@danielmatheson7305
@danielmatheson7305 28 күн бұрын
And likely set up Doohan for an F1 seat.
@durodesduvo8424
@durodesduvo8424 28 күн бұрын
He’d probably be too far ahead of Ocon to be bothered by him.
@rafaiah333
@rafaiah333 28 күн бұрын
This is not a Gasly-Ocon problem. It’s just an Ocon problem. Would happen and did happen to any other teammate.
@Urgrannytranny
@Urgrannytranny 24 күн бұрын
There's that popular saying: idiots will bring you down to their level and defeat you with their superior stupidity. Same thing goes for Ocon in alpine
@superking-nicolaslucau7252
@superking-nicolaslucau7252 20 күн бұрын
​@@UrgrannytrannyHow did Ocon defeat anybody? His stupidity got him out of the team.
@SpartanArmy117
@SpartanArmy117 20 күн бұрын
This exactly. I can't name a teammate he hasn't had an issue with. Not to mention all the other drivers not in his team that also have problems with him.
@jarnomeekes6756
@jarnomeekes6756 28 күн бұрын
Backmarkers, manufacturer team, civil war. Disgrace of a works team
@moStallion
@moStallion 28 күн бұрын
They're French it's typical. The French also colonized. They are inherently problematic
@tomsonfire3740
@tomsonfire3740 28 күн бұрын
That's the French for you. Arrogance
@sephiros9883
@sephiros9883 28 күн бұрын
Complete disgrace. I was a Renault fan but this is just an embarrassment.
@bundesautobahn7
@bundesautobahn7 28 күн бұрын
The ultimate downfall of Team Enstone.
@AdmiralMoo
@AdmiralMoo 28 күн бұрын
@@sephiros9883i’m really feeling that. I was a huge Renault fan because of the Alonso years and I felt like they were a respectable team with history until they became Alpine
@Joe-wj7ku
@Joe-wj7ku 28 күн бұрын
Ocon made Alonso look cooperative. That says it all.
@magacacciari3565
@magacacciari3565 28 күн бұрын
Alonso takes care of daddy’s little baby, you know
@albertopinoblanco
@albertopinoblanco 22 күн бұрын
Well, Ocon is too down the list. Alonso IS cooperative.
@SpartanArmy117
@SpartanArmy117 20 күн бұрын
Alonso can work with the right line up and the right team. Ocon can't. He's just an a hole and that's all there is to it.
@matheuscruz19
@matheuscruz19 13 күн бұрын
​@@SpartanArmy117Say that to: McLaren, Renault, Ferrari, McLaren again and Alpine... He's not a saint you know?
@method0409
@method0409 6 күн бұрын
Are you really trying to defend Ocon? Mate, please ...
@lukavujeva6584
@lukavujeva6584 28 күн бұрын
Ocon is not an asset for any team. The facts are that he is fast but nothing like Max, Alonso, Hamilton and rest of the top tier, he is seen as unlikable personality, bad teammate and therefore as someone with very limited fan base. The latter means, his marketing value is negligible.
@bikerjon8934
@bikerjon8934 28 күн бұрын
and he's adix
@MuhammadNiz007
@MuhammadNiz007 28 күн бұрын
Ocon beat Alonso, he beat Perez and he beat Gasly. He is undoubtedly an asset especially because he can drive car's with lose rear end something Fernando and Galsy always struggled with and had the development changed to understeer
@zachbishop5421
@zachbishop5421 28 күн бұрын
I don't think I've even heard someone support ocon 😂 maybe back when he was out for a year and was going to Renault ppl said some nice stuff about him but not really since 😂
@zachbishop5421
@zachbishop5421 28 күн бұрын
@@MuhammadNiz007 I mean he's guaranteed to cost a team 5-10 mil in crash damage and take out both cars like 3 times a year so you have to weigh the pros and cons I wonder why alpine is wanting to bench him leading the team in points and backing him for years is probably because it's not worth it anymore 😂
@mayanksharma5478
@mayanksharma5478 28 күн бұрын
Your dear Max crashtrappen has collided with Ricciardo multiple times, Your dear Hamilton has collided with Jenson Button and Nico Rosberg multiple times, Top tier Vettel has done it multiple times with Webber and don't get me started on Alonso being a bad teammate. Ocon is an asset to any F1 team, it's just your hatred and blindly following a trend has made you hate him.
@yamclap6561
@yamclap6561 28 күн бұрын
Ocon drives likes he's got that Stroll insurance policy
@G-regTaylor
@G-regTaylor 27 күн бұрын
Christ. Any excuse to insult stroll eh?
@markbogdan2
@markbogdan2 27 күн бұрын
@@G-regTaylor Where's the insult? Daddy's team = insurance he won't be dropped even if he drives/behaves the way he does
@G-regTaylor
@G-regTaylor 27 күн бұрын
@@markbogdan2 what bad behavior does stroll display?
@NRocky94
@NRocky94 27 күн бұрын
@@G-regTaylor Blaming other drivers for his numerous mistakes ?
@getnaenaed4222
@getnaenaed4222 27 күн бұрын
@@G-regTaylor I see you just figured out what jokes are!
@kuglepen64
@kuglepen64 28 күн бұрын
Ocon and KMAG dream team. Make it happen!
@watson956
@watson956 28 күн бұрын
LOL! 😎🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@stephanetessier3378
@stephanetessier3378 28 күн бұрын
How many races before there is a fistfight between those two? I like it!
@Andrew-rd4ig
@Andrew-rd4ig 28 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@MahF1V10
@MahF1V10 28 күн бұрын
Sunday Sunday Sunday! Most expensive destruction derby you have ever seen.
@MichaelCampbell01
@MichaelCampbell01 28 күн бұрын
Mazepin and Grosjean as backups...
@khasmir666
@khasmir666 28 күн бұрын
Ocon just couldn't cope with the fact that Gasly got in front of him, he's like a little child that got his candy taken away. He's so immature and unprofessional...
@antoniohagopian213
@antoniohagopian213 28 күн бұрын
Not like, he IS a kid.
@thesonofthesouth
@thesonofthesouth 25 күн бұрын
He saw a gap and went for it. He’s a racing driver who knows he’s not got a seat next year, I dunno why anyone’s surprised
@Rayer24
@Rayer24 24 күн бұрын
And french
@challengengerzzz
@challengengerzzz 22 күн бұрын
​@@thesonofthesouth This aged well
@OhGrowUpPodcast
@OhGrowUpPodcast 28 күн бұрын
Piastri dodged a train wreck lol
@davestagner
@davestagner 28 күн бұрын
If I was running an F1 team, I certainly wouldn’t choose as teammates two guys who have hated each other in a very personal way since they were 10 years old.
@joostprins3381
@joostprins3381 25 күн бұрын
If I was running a F1 team I just would never choose Ocon at all.
@Kiwing827
@Kiwing827 28 күн бұрын
Monoco GP is essentially Alpine's home race, the big boss from Renault are probably there. Crashing in front of your paymaster is bad enough, but crashing with your teammate is a spit in their face. Famin is right to be furious at Ocon, Since this season is a writeoff for Alpine, benching Ocon with Doohan isn't going to change the team result much and they get to evaluate Doohan for next year.
@sar4806
@sar4806 28 күн бұрын
Ocon is a clown who always takes racing against his teammates to the extreme.
@maximem5356
@maximem5356 28 күн бұрын
Well that’s what f1 is about. IMO he is an og f1 driver not a modern day nice guy driver. I’m not saying his actions are always correct not at all but I respect it
@rolef6084
@rolef6084 26 күн бұрын
@@maximem5356bro ur there to score as many points as possible and beat ur teammate that way, not like ocon does driving like hed prefer a 19-20 instead of a 1-2 if it means hed be ahead of his teammate
@Luchingador
@Luchingador 28 күн бұрын
You would think him not being remotely considered for the Merc seat despite being a Merc driver should been a wake up call
@jeffbarnett3702
@jeffbarnett3702 28 күн бұрын
Toto is also his manager!!
@stevenmoran4060
@stevenmoran4060 28 күн бұрын
⁠says it all!
@RACECAR
@RACECAR 28 күн бұрын
@@jeffbarnett3702 After what he had to deal with between Rosberg and Hamilton, I can't really blame him for NOT having Ocon there. Guy seems like he wants to throw hands with ANYONE he's paired up with.
@Peachrocks5
@Peachrocks5 28 күн бұрын
Yeah Ocon may have the talent to be in f1 but not the mentality. With all the talent currently not on the grid this probably will be Ocon's last season unless he can prove to somebody that he's grown up a bit with a few seasons as a test driver.
@deegan463
@deegan463 28 күн бұрын
100%. Thank you. Also, remember when he was in the running for the Mercedes seat in 2019/for the 2020 season? And for various reasons, they kept Bottas.
@thilinadhanapala1399
@thilinadhanapala1399 28 күн бұрын
Ocon is selfish
@badee3_94
@badee3_94 28 күн бұрын
Ocon is very toxic
@Sidak_studio
@Sidak_studio 28 күн бұрын
I don't why an team principal would get ocon he literally toxic
@Purplesunset-
@Purplesunset- 25 күн бұрын
Cus he's fast.
@Collouk1
@Collouk1 23 күн бұрын
He’s slightly above average, not worth the hassle
@Purplesunset-
@Purplesunset- 23 күн бұрын
@@Collouk1 an average racing driver is way worse than for example mazepin.
@write-only
@write-only 28 күн бұрын
Don't underestimate Alpine's ability to make this worse. Like let Gasly leave and keep Ocon. Happened twice already.
@Nudel-nc1cp
@Nudel-nc1cp 27 күн бұрын
True. I would love to KMag go and Pierre join Haas together with Yuki. That could be something.
@henrik1743
@henrik1743 27 күн бұрын
True french leadership
@zippy6667
@zippy6667 28 күн бұрын
I’d be taking Gasly and binning Ocon. The guy is one torpedo away from having his garage moved from next to Gasly to Faslane.
@mkaczynski4
@mkaczynski4 28 күн бұрын
To be honest, a driver pairing that doesn't like each other can still work if they are professional enough. But Ocon never was professional, he didn't work well with Checo and he didn't work well with Fernando. And, given his arrogance, I don't think he'll ever work well with anybody
@KoMDraegast
@KoMDraegast 27 күн бұрын
The only reason it slightly works is Gasly is the likeable one on that line up and wants to better the team. Can only go so far if the other end of the garage is a toxic, head up his own arse prick that destroys any harmony because he wants to be top of the team.
@DontForgetOldKolobok
@DontForgetOldKolobok 28 күн бұрын
Ocon: the guy your driving instructor warned you about
@Meklerens
@Meklerens 28 күн бұрын
Hopefully Ocon won't get a new seat in F1
@GarrishChristopherRobin777
@GarrishChristopherRobin777 28 күн бұрын
REMEMBER WHEN MAX WANTED TO GIVE HIM A BEATING?
@giovannigiorgio3727
@giovannigiorgio3727 28 күн бұрын
Max is a good judge of character 😅
@Logan11thMEU
@Logan11thMEU 27 күн бұрын
Man I would pay money to see that
@andreic8786
@andreic8786 27 күн бұрын
@@Logan11thMEU i would pay to see anybody knock ocon out, not just max
@jesusgarciacruz9059
@jesusgarciacruz9059 25 күн бұрын
To be fair, Ocon's face is extremely punchable
@andreic8786
@andreic8786 24 күн бұрын
@@jesusgarciacruz9059 yeah, only one more annoying than ocon is stroll
@simonh870
@simonh870 28 күн бұрын
No matter where Ocon goes he will have issues with his team mate. It makes you wonder why any other team would actually want him.
@blackjacktrial
@blackjacktrial 28 күн бұрын
He just needs to be in a one driver team. They exist, and then he's responsible for the whole team's fortunes. I think that suits his philosophy better than "my job is to try to win, but I need to be less win-focused around this one guy who I'm measured against more than the others anyway", which seems to be how he views same-team drivers. Given that, he's going to be toxic either in a Monaco way, or in a 'not really helping the weaker teammate' way in a multi-car outfit.
@MrDufDaddy
@MrDufDaddy 28 күн бұрын
Why not just sack him now and give Doohan a 15 race audition? Does anyone really think at this point that Ocon is going to be in an Alpine next season? So since you all said no, then why run the risk of him doing this again and costing the team millions of dollars in destroyed cars? Second question: why would Haas or Williams with their limited resources want to bring in a driver that doesn't cooperate within the team structure? Neither of those teams can afford a selfish (insecure) driver ruining development and cars.
@dustinabigan2776
@dustinabigan2776 28 күн бұрын
Bruno Famin showing clear anger at that move was probably a boiling over of things even from last year. He wasn't team principal then but Monaco 2024 showed that nothing changed between this year and last between Ocon and Gasly. I doubt he will actually bench Ocon but it should be a stern warning that nothing like this should happen again this year.
@MuhammadNiz007
@MuhammadNiz007 28 күн бұрын
Well I wouldn't be surprised Famin benches him because Famin fired Otmar in spa weekend to make himself the team principal and get the lime light. He is the same guy who is responsible for alpines engine and the same guy who told the team to praise his engine work although it's the worse on the grid by a good margin. He is the same guy who was responsible for contract's of Oscar. The same guy who forced otmat and Laurent to delay Fernando's deal . I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he gets benched for Canada but I also wouldn't be surprised to see a law suit as there is no way in hell a manager like Toto Wolff wouldn't have mentioned everything in details and a billionaire like him can practically ruin Bruno's life
@antoniohagopian213
@antoniohagopian213 28 күн бұрын
​@@MuhammadNiz007Toto doesn't care at all about this junk of a "driver" otherwise he would have got the Mercedes seat instead of georgie boi.
@aj897
@aj897 28 күн бұрын
Doohan is going to get an opportunity earlier than expected imo.
@aj897
@aj897 28 күн бұрын
@@antoniohagopian213 George has been signed for months, you don’t know what you’re talking about lol.
@TFAmbience
@TFAmbience 28 күн бұрын
​@@aj897no, you don't know what he's talking about. He's saying that if Toto really wanted Ocon, then Ocon would have gotten the seat over George. And that didn't happen. Reading comprehension is hard, huh?
@demonsarisingmetal
@demonsarisingmetal 28 күн бұрын
Ocon is the worst teammate in F1 he has such a broken philosophy.
@jedjohnstone3340
@jedjohnstone3340 28 күн бұрын
So glad Piastri isn't stuck in some petty Ocon bullshit early in his f1 career. Might have completely changed his trajectory.
@rockandrollrockandrollrock6930
@rockandrollrockandrollrock6930 28 күн бұрын
When you have the same problem with 3 different teammates, it’s pretty obvious who’s at the root of it. Plus a Gasly and Doohan lineup is way more interesting and likable anyway.
@ouss
@ouss 28 күн бұрын
Ocon vs Russell will be interesting.....
@abbofun9022
@abbofun9022 26 күн бұрын
The moaning and whining would be intolerable
@MajikPPMan
@MajikPPMan 26 күн бұрын
Will never happen lol I don't think toto will ever be that desperate 😂
@JamaicanMeCrazy
@JamaicanMeCrazy 28 күн бұрын
Nobody expected this to work..I don't expect ocon to be in F1 much longer. Ocons strategy is sound ..if you beat your teammate you can't get fired... But he will try and beat them by any means necessary he's proven that from the beginning.
@MrDufDaddy
@MrDufDaddy 28 күн бұрын
agreed. No one (RB, Merc) is going to put him in as a #2 because he will never submit to another driver and why would teams like Haas or Williams risk the damage he creates? Neither has the resources to deal with in fighting or wrecking a teammate. He's also shown no capability to help improve any of the cars he's been in.
@Grexen-bo6zp
@Grexen-bo6zp 28 күн бұрын
Sadly he will still be in F1 for more years to come.
@freyalove3831
@freyalove3831 27 күн бұрын
​@@Grexen-bo6zp if Ocon doesn't change his attitude he won't be for long in F1.
@Grexen-bo6zp
@Grexen-bo6zp 27 күн бұрын
@@freyalove3831 That I hope, but I don't see it. He has gotten away with his attitude for so long, so he will probably continue and get no reprecussions. But I hope ur right.
@JamaicanMeCrazy
@JamaicanMeCrazy 26 күн бұрын
@@Grexen-bo6zp if we, the viewers, are fed up how do you think his team mates feel and how do you think his team bosses feel. He's on thin ice right now. I think if it happens even once more he's toast. Honestly I think he's already toast but he'll just be allowed to finish his season
@heavyharris5580
@heavyharris5580 28 күн бұрын
It's a shame too because of Ocon's story. That alone would make him so much more popular, but he just doesnt seem likeable
@thomasvrielink299
@thomasvrielink299 28 күн бұрын
Ironically that story is where his mentality comes from...
@jeffreyhutchins6527
@jeffreyhutchins6527 28 күн бұрын
@@thomasvrielink299 oh yeah poor Ocon had it so rough. His silver spoon was slightly less shiny than the other drivers on the grid.
@antoniohagopian213
@antoniohagopian213 28 күн бұрын
Yeah story of a Algerian narcissistic kid who wants it all for himself.
@MrDufDaddy
@MrDufDaddy 28 күн бұрын
@@jeffreyhutchins6527 Unless mechanics in France get paid significantly more than they do in the States, Ocon's silver spoon was made from tin. His dad owned a garage and they had to sell their home and garage to keep Ocon racing...that's a LONG way off from the Schumacher/Stroll/Mazepin's of the F1 Silver Spoon club
@patrickbateman529
@patrickbateman529 27 күн бұрын
​@@MrDufDaddy That's still millions which is more than what most people will see in their lives. He may be no billionaire but it still costs more than 5 million euros to get there.
@donaldduck4888
@donaldduck4888 27 күн бұрын
Bring him to Mercedes please - the look on Toto's face as he takes out Russell would be priceless!
@Mia-lv6hg
@Mia-lv6hg 28 күн бұрын
Ocon is a good driver with a shit mentality.
@bonelessbeef
@bonelessbeef 28 күн бұрын
Annoying bot
@fastfolky
@fastfolky 28 күн бұрын
Ocon is an okay driver with a shit attitude. I would have dropped him 2 years ago.
@mitube4u
@mitube4u 28 күн бұрын
Which circles back and actually makes him a shitty driver.
@aj897
@aj897 28 күн бұрын
He’s not even that great of a driver.
@sjsomething4936
@sjsomething4936 28 күн бұрын
💯
@LeeGoGators
@LeeGoGators 28 күн бұрын
A French civil war? I’m shocked
@PhazerSC
@PhazerSC 28 күн бұрын
It's intriguing that the most broken driver lineups always contain Ocon. Remember the Ocon-Perez days? Just get rid of this overly aggressive and mediocre driver once and for all.
@zlm4869
@zlm4869 28 күн бұрын
He’s not mediocre lol, he’s a race winner lol, and you all say Alonso won him the race, yet he had a 4 time would champion in Sebastian Vettel, behind him all race, he doesn’t get enough credit for that
@PhazerSC
@PhazerSC 28 күн бұрын
@@zlm4869 "you all say Alonso won him the race" YES, he did.
@joseagui4924
@joseagui4924 28 күн бұрын
@@zlm4869 Vettel had a mildly competitive car, and was struggling to keep up in the AMR. Ocon isn’t too mediocre, but a huge prick. Selfish, immature, and just an asshole on the track. Alonso won Hungary for him, Hamilton was miles quicker than Ocon and would’ve overtaken him if it wasn’t for Magic. I have to handle it to Ocon though, his speed during some races in 2021 was not bad.
@sidharthtirkey44
@sidharthtirkey44 28 күн бұрын
​@@zlm4869 But Alonso did . Lewis would have speed past him .
@zlm4869
@zlm4869 28 күн бұрын
@@PhazerSC and what about Ocon holding Vettel behind for 70+ laps, no one gives the credit for that at all, but no typical honestly
@coyzmann
@coyzmann 28 күн бұрын
The problem is Ocon's attitude, his huge ego prevents him to have any accountability for his mistakes, even if this cost points for the team. He always blames any incidents as external factors and never his, without any accountability, he will never learn or get any better, so I think what we are witnessing right now is a driver that already at his maximum potential. He will never be a champion as he won't get any better.
@MajikPPMan
@MajikPPMan 26 күн бұрын
His ego? 😂 I don't think he has a whole lot to have an ego over lol dude is a waste of a seat I say kick him out after every f1 seat is full and get doohan in and let ocon out of f1 completely
@thegridgab
@thegridgab 28 күн бұрын
Estie Bestie needs a Restie
@MrJordiBaby
@MrJordiBaby 27 күн бұрын
🤣🤣
@Hecate24
@Hecate24 28 күн бұрын
tbh, all i care about is that Piastri managed to sign with mclaren instead of their team. he dodged a pretty fat bullet
@YUBU8
@YUBU8 22 күн бұрын
They’ve had 3 incidents in 2 years. All of this they can’t work together is a bit of a stretch.
@flamingburritto
@flamingburritto 28 күн бұрын
Ocon has had a huge chip on his shoulder ever since Max was selected ahead of him to drive in F1 even tho he beat Max in F3. Like alonso pointed out, ocon fights harder with his teammates than he does with other drivers. He only cares about beating his teammate to make himself look better, he doesn't care about the team. He has a huge EGO. We get that in racing, incidents happen. What matters is the accountability following those incidents, and ocon has never shown any. Alonso, Perez, Gasly, all three are great drivers who didn't have teammate issues until they raced with ocon. And if that happened with 3 drivers, then the problem is ocon.
@TyraelHasFallen
@TyraelHasFallen 22 күн бұрын
This aged well
@SimRacingVeteran
@SimRacingVeteran 28 күн бұрын
Everyone saw this coming the moment they said they’d be paired together.
@haribo836
@haribo836 28 күн бұрын
It's Ocon who is broken and can't be saved. No matter what teammate you give him, he will crash into them again and again. He's been in F1 for a while now and has had this issue every year with every teammate and just doesn't learn from his mistakes (but how could he? He barely ever admits it's his mistake). The only reason he is still on the grid after he was booted from it in '19 is because he's French and a French team was looking for a decent driver. Who else would take a broken team player?
@ImreBertalan86
@ImreBertalan86 28 күн бұрын
There are exactly 4 drivers I don't want to see on the grid - Ocon (he needs his own team where hs is the ONLY driver) - Stroll (daddys little boy causing more damage than Magnussen to Haas) - Zhou (no hard feelings, just maybe not enough??) - and Logan (just not enough)
@kriss_gu_13
@kriss_gu_13 22 күн бұрын
Well it's official, after this season Ocon will no longer drive for Alpine
@GeorgeVazquez
@GeorgeVazquez 28 күн бұрын
I really like Esteban's story and would root for him. But he's just not doing himself any favors with his clashes with teammates. Even without Kimi Antonelli in the picture. Toto would not put Ocon with George and potentially have his cars crashing into each other again.
@gdoumit
@gdoumit 28 күн бұрын
Honestly any story is meaningless when you behave like Ocon does. His story would have been admirable to get to this point if he wasn't so insufferable and selfish. All drivers need to be selfish to some degree, but Ocon takes it to a toxic level. He will never get a top drive with his mentality and lack of maturity.
@richardlehoux
@richardlehoux 28 күн бұрын
Maybe it’s the BWT logo that affects Ocon psychology?
@durodesduvo8424
@durodesduvo8424 28 күн бұрын
Ocon has a serious immaturity problem. Watch Hungary 2022 when he was so focused on blocking Alonso. This was the year after Alonso‘s defense helped him win a race. When Ocon’s driving gifted Ricciardo a double overtake on the Alpines, it really encapsulates why I despise him. Alonso immediately left for a slower team at the time, I would’ve done the same.
@patrickbateman1660
@patrickbateman1660 27 күн бұрын
Its crazy how hard he drives against his teammates but barely even tries against anyone.
@IIINickodemusIII
@IIINickodemusIII 28 күн бұрын
Icon and Stroll should be on the same team, I would enjoy watching that very much
@SA-hr6ho
@SA-hr6ho 22 күн бұрын
no one cares what you enjoy
@hersheyyy981
@hersheyyy981 28 күн бұрын
Ocon is a good driver with a shit mentality
@stevenjoseph6048
@stevenjoseph6048 28 күн бұрын
Sums him up perfectly. While I don't hate him as much as everyone does (the hate for Ocon is too much imo) if his mentality was better he could be a good number 2 for top teams
@Joe-wj7ku
@Joe-wj7ku 28 күн бұрын
Sums it up nicely
@BwInNewJersey
@BwInNewJersey 28 күн бұрын
Well said
@MichaelCampbell01
@MichaelCampbell01 28 күн бұрын
He's trying to ride the "oh, look at me, I didn't grow up with a lot of money, I'm just a smiley normal dude" vibe far too far.
@lukeearthcrawler896
@lukeearthcrawler896 28 күн бұрын
Yes, but he's not a great one to get away with it. Senna/Prost was a spicy pairing, but BOTH Alain and Ayrton were greats, so each got away with it and won championships. Ocon is just a very good midfielder that is an absolute cretin when it comes to teamwork.
@JaggerDaBombs
@JaggerDaBombs 27 күн бұрын
I can't imagine Oscar with how good he's been with McLaren, being forced to try that tractor of an Alpine car wasting away his true natural born talent fighting to maybe get a point instead of fighting for podiums.
@NillerMann
@NillerMann 22 күн бұрын
Well there you go
@ChawkoSnap
@ChawkoSnap 28 күн бұрын
Ocon fights with literally every teammate he has.
@slavan5466
@slavan5466 22 күн бұрын
Is it coincidence that Ocon had problems with all his teammates?
@cian69
@cian69 28 күн бұрын
Ocon is incredibly talented but has a massive chip on his shoulder. Like mate we get you didn’t have it easy coming up but sometimes he appears almost entitled like feels he deserves it more than others because of his background which is ridiculous. He is unfortunately not a very nice person seemingly who thinks only about himself.
@a1white
@a1white 28 күн бұрын
Ocon will have been told, before the race, do not (unless we tell you do so) attempt to overtake Gasly, this is Monaco and the risk is far too high. Then on lap 1, what does he do? That is why they are furious.
@xano198103
@xano198103 28 күн бұрын
Is Toto still Ocon's manager? Because this is important
@eoincassin4265
@eoincassin4265 28 күн бұрын
He is and the pathetic little boy still calls himself Merc junior driver despite having ZERO association with Merc beyond Papa Wolff. Ocon is a little coward who doesnt understand what being in a team means
@titancheat
@titancheat 28 күн бұрын
Ocon to williams confirmed 😅
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 28 күн бұрын
Yes, he's still linked to Mercedes yes, though I have no idea why that is still the case after 5 years at Renault/Alpine.
@ericthompson1784
@ericthompson1784 28 күн бұрын
@@titancheatplease no 😂
@RoyMatzem
@RoyMatzem 28 күн бұрын
​@@soundscape26He dont have links with Mercedes. He have link with Toto Wolff. Very important difference
@docmccoy9813
@docmccoy9813 28 күн бұрын
Blame Alpine management. They knew Ocon reputation and they knew his "close friendship with Gasly" so, what did they expect to happen.
@AtlanticwayExplorer
@AtlanticwayExplorer 28 күн бұрын
I cant see any team wanting Ocon to be honest , i was a big fan of his when he burst onto the scene, but in recent years I’ve noticed he has a fairly large chip on his shoulder, and is only there to beat his teammate any way he can
@OzDeaDMeaT
@OzDeaDMeaT 28 күн бұрын
F1 is a team game, Ocon is not a team player, the guy needs to not be part of F1, there are just too many quality drivers that should be given an F1 opportunity.
@jeffa251
@jeffa251 22 күн бұрын
Who's here after they dropped Ocon?
@ryobibattery
@ryobibattery 28 күн бұрын
K-Mag has never done everything wrong
@lesliea.428
@lesliea.428 22 күн бұрын
Bruno watched this video and axed Ocon.
@TheFarleyMowat
@TheFarleyMowat 28 күн бұрын
“Alpine was unaware of this at the time of signing” well then they were the only one we all knew when it was announced where this was going.
@ayayoutuber
@ayayoutuber 28 күн бұрын
ocon can not be pair with anyone. so he better go race somewhere else outside F1. He would just cost Hass more damage that Hass cannot afford.
@whassupg89
@whassupg89 28 күн бұрын
Yeah, what did Renault think was going to happen with these two…
@CYMotorsport
@CYMotorsport 28 күн бұрын
This is going to be the case for any driver competing directly with another driver at a high level in the same car when they’ve competed in karts 2:05 We only notice it bc this is the rare time top talent overlaps like this as both are young. Unless you can cite specific information about their “off track” issues, nothing to report there for now then. We saw it at merc with Nico and Lewis too. It’s not a problem for the likes of say George and Lando as they wouldn’t likely be paired but you’re out to lunch if you think it would be copacetic if they were on the same team. It would not.
@DaniilBrodskiy
@DaniilBrodskiy 28 күн бұрын
it was such a smart move to sign gasly to team up with ocon alpine are genius, paid a lot to alonso, ricciardo and they just left, also lost piastri, also nobody from alpine academy ended up in f1 team, instead of this they signed gasly and ocon, whoever needs ocon? he fights with every tteammate. how he stayed in f1 for so long
@Uranswer-yu5kp
@Uranswer-yu5kp 28 күн бұрын
Esteban Ocon managed to be the most toxic driver in F1 even more toxic than Alonzo. He is a dangerous driver. This is a constant occurrence with him and his teammates.
@keremkuruuzumcu7761
@keremkuruuzumcu7761 28 күн бұрын
Was Alonso toxic?
@Uranswer-yu5kp
@Uranswer-yu5kp 28 күн бұрын
@@keremkuruuzumcu7761 oh yes he’s been toxic. Not to this level but he has. Look at his career. He’s been a shitty team mate as well.
@Reaz399
@Reaz399 28 күн бұрын
@@Uranswer-yu5kpAlonso probably only was this toxic towards Hamilton ( and vice versa) when it comes to teammates. In relation his teams Alonso is and was way worse than Ocon tho to be fair.
@Uranswer-yu5kp
@Uranswer-yu5kp 28 күн бұрын
@@Reaz399 honestly Alonzo being toxic to his team(s) doesn’t put drivers at risk. Ocon on the other hand doesn’t care about the ramifications of his actions. We are used to watching drivers walk away from pretty horrific crashes (Grosejan) comes to mind. But every time Ocon crashes out a teammate he’s putting lives at risk. That’s outright reckless narcissistic behavior that isn’t needed on any track.
@tombardsley3081
@tombardsley3081 28 күн бұрын
It isn’t a constant occurrence. Also the stuff with Alonso is a big overreaction. Alonso went for non existent gaps and blamed ocon for trying to force his way through.
@user-tm7mz7qd8e
@user-tm7mz7qd8e 27 күн бұрын
Piastri and Alonso having a laugh while watching this with a glass of wine 😂😂😂
@Jamesthomas-cj4eu
@Jamesthomas-cj4eu 28 күн бұрын
The way I see it, Ocon is stuck in a nasty feedback loop, the world is against me so I am against it: something happens to prove it to him and he gets worse from it, ie: Max getting a seat before him, lance getting his seat, getting overlooked for Bottas and so on. If he can't get out of this tunnel vision mind set, he's not long for f1.
@smythie27
@smythie27 28 күн бұрын
As an Australian, it would be awesome to see 3 Aussies starting on the grid, even if it is just for one race
@michaelcobbin
@michaelcobbin 28 күн бұрын
I’m also an Australian, how about 3 Aussies and 1 New Zealander on the 2025 F1 grid?
@budgie1323
@budgie1323 28 күн бұрын
@@michaelcobbinas another Aussie, this is the stuff my dreams are made of. 3 Australians and our kiwi brother Liam Lawson flying around the track!
@smythie27
@smythie27 27 күн бұрын
@@budgie1323 @michaelcobbin Not sure that would happen, though it would awesome. I doubt Yuki will be kicked out of RB, not with the way he is driving. Though he may need to tapper his attitude
@smythie27
@smythie27 20 күн бұрын
Alpine must have seen my post🤣🤣
@michaelcobbin
@michaelcobbin 20 күн бұрын
@@smythie27 Alpine is definitely giving Jack Doohan as much time as possible in the F1 car. How many FP1 sessions will Ocon be giving up to Doohan for the rest of the season? Possibly every non-sprint GP for the remainder of the year.
@antoniohagopian213
@antoniohagopian213 28 күн бұрын
Ocon = Au con Translate the second part from french and you'll know all you need.
@emily-rx8yd
@emily-rx8yd 20 күн бұрын
this aged well
@baka1984
@baka1984 28 күн бұрын
Hope you are having a good day Edd. You deserve to make it to the official F1 media team! Huge fan of your commentary.
@AERIAL_CRAFT
@AERIAL_CRAFT 22 күн бұрын
Bye bye ocon! Go crash Indy with grosjean
@Amonicuss
@Amonicuss 28 күн бұрын
Ye there's only 1 word needed to explain why the lineup can't be saved: "Ocon"
@atelier7516
@atelier7516 28 күн бұрын
sacre bleu
@antoniohagopian213
@antoniohagopian213 28 күн бұрын
Ocon=Au con
@chicobicalho5621
@chicobicalho5621 28 күн бұрын
There is something about Ocon picking on his own team-mates that should be examined by a psychiatrist. I mean, it is a recurring issue, so medical attention is advisable.
@amuddymoose
@amuddymoose 24 күн бұрын
It’s called narcissism
@sicmic
@sicmic 20 күн бұрын
Excellent analysis as always Ed.
@sturod2016
@sturod2016 27 күн бұрын
Famin should go also. Unprofessional and unnecessary to vent to media instead of dealing with this behind closed doors, as any employee should be treated.
@shivamhurkat2765
@shivamhurkat2765 28 күн бұрын
Ocon and russell will make interesting teammates... They will always endup blaming each other 😂😂
@kanan1361
@kanan1361 28 күн бұрын
Let’s team up Ocon with Stroll and see what’s gonna happen. 🍿
@rob1129
@rob1129 28 күн бұрын
From the minute they signed Gasly this was inevitable, regardless of what team they drive for having two French drivers is asking for chaos !
@botortamas
@botortamas 28 күн бұрын
Ocon is the most hate-able driver on the grid. Everything from giving no respect to Alonso to bumping teammates into the wall to taking out Max in Brazil. Ditch this selfish prick already.
@NVegianP
@NVegianP 20 күн бұрын
Esteban Ogone
@ankitgondalia
@ankitgondalia 28 күн бұрын
The problem with Ocon is he goes after his teammates more than his rivals.
@DeadlyAura76
@DeadlyAura76 28 күн бұрын
Personally I think Ocon is a loose cannon. He seems a nice guy off the track but I think his time is running out on the track.
@JA-yn9zc
@JA-yn9zc 28 күн бұрын
ocon has serial killer vibes
@pffyespff
@pffyespff 28 күн бұрын
I don't think you can really claim that during H2/23 Gasly was better, like you do at ca 5 min. mark. Your own graphics shows that when both managed to finish, Ocon had usually better position. Ability to finish at all is another kettle of fish entirely, tho.
@sam3806
@sam3806 28 күн бұрын
Ocon is the sole problem not the pairing. Especially, Alonso who is the main creditor for 1st win was repaid with antagonist behavior prove it.
@reliantrobin9450
@reliantrobin9450 28 күн бұрын
Because Ocon. Same situation when he was team mates with Perez and Alonso. He doesn’t know how to play the team game. Does he think he’s fighting for a championship or something?
@TheZanzaroni
@TheZanzaroni 28 күн бұрын
Ocon's magnetism towards his teammates has never served his teams well. He is a very good driver on his good days, but his good days are often overshadowed by such incidents that could simply be avoided.
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