Nothing can be done better than this. Thanks a lot for your time and efforts to explain this gearbox is such a detailed manner.
@av8bvma513 Жыл бұрын
36:15 They are called Shift Drums. The design has been used on Motorcycle gearboxes for many decades, although most are single clutch, using a single drum with Three grooves.
@massltca9 жыл бұрын
I researched these transmissions when I was looking to buy a 2015 Focus. I wasn't willing to gamble on one so I got a 5 speed manual instead. Much better transmission in my opinion.
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
+massltca Thanks for your feedback!
@peteryates91532 жыл бұрын
These transmissions are absolute shit. We bought our 2015 focus new and had nothing but problems with shuddering. It's been back to two different ford dealers and they say it has "acceptable" shuddering which is a cop out. They should have been recalled. Stay well clear of them
@trcs3079 Жыл бұрын
@@peteryates9153they were recalled because customers won the law suite. However, because the manufacturers of these transmissions coincidentally went bankdrupt, the best ford could do was give you a certificate for a discount on their new cars if you were to purchase from them.
@randalcalvert2702 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work 👌 thank you for making this video!!
@WeberAuto2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Randal!
@markharding87629 жыл бұрын
I have a 2013 Automatic Focus. I am experiencing clutch judder on pulling away. This video was invaluable in understanding the problem and more importantly the correct remedy. Thanks Mark H UK
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
+Mark Harding Thank you!
@mickblock5 жыл бұрын
The observations about the assembly grease on the release bearing, missing snap rings, and preload consideration on the differential bearing was interesting. I mean the operation that I understood (mostly) was also appreciated. Thanks for making this very valuable video!
@WeberAuto5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@setSCEtoAUX9 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Very happy to see so much detail. I have one of these cursed things in my 2013 Focus. It shifts exactly like I did when I got my first manual car (terribly), but unlike me, it never gets any better at it. Love the technology; hate the implementation. There have been several TSBs and revisions to the input shaft seals to keep oil from escaping, running down the shafts, and dripping on the clutch discs. There have also been at least five clutch plate revisions. Ford no longer makes their TSBs public, so I don't know what's happened over the past year. Mine had bad seals and had a clutch replaced under warranty. It no longer has the aggressive shudder it had when the clutches were contaminated, but it still shifts horribly. The TCM "learns" as you drive it, but seems to actually get worse at feathering the clutches. It's worst when accelerating from a stop or shifting from 1->2. Possibly amplified by the shortness of the first two gears. Lastly, something inside the box makes a horrible grinding sound, especially when under acceleration and turning left. Ford repeatedly told me this awful, embarrassing noise is "normal". It sounds just like I'm dragging a six-foot steel rod behind the car. I haven't heard a clear explanation as to what's causing it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the box was slowly eating itself. Glad I'll be free of this thing (and Ford's incompetence) after only one more summer.
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
James Wagner Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully the newest version of the clutch and/or TCM software will improve the driving experience. I would check with your Ford dealer to see what updates are available. Thanks for watching.
@dbsimms632 жыл бұрын
@@WeberAuto yeah and the customer will have to pay for that instead of having it done for free like it should be since the customer isn't responsible for this poor design.
@eig19792 жыл бұрын
I think I bought your hunk of junk... lol
@charlesschluessler5462 жыл бұрын
Yep feels just like a teenager just learning to drive a manual. Mine is especially bad first to second....really "feathers" the clutch between gears. Inspires a lot of confidence when pulling into traffic.
@mechrojo6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your detailed explanation. I'm in Australia and 2015/16 models are in the spotlight at the moment. I really appreciate your work and your special effort in all your videos. Thanks again.
@WeberAuto6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@md.jahangiralam15094 жыл бұрын
Hello Sir.I' m from Bangladesh and l' m a headteacher, Jahangir. Your classes attract me a lot,l' m growing resourceful observing your classes, Thank you sir.
@johnsousa49807 жыл бұрын
I'm from Brazil, and I really enjoy all of your teachings!! Keep up with the good work!
@WeberAuto7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DoriFord7 жыл бұрын
Those selector gears (electric motor driven ones) are pretty much the same as in sequential racing transmissions, which you usually move manually, so there's nothing that much new, but a new combination of old things. Nice to see it apart, thank you for your work!
@WeberAuto7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@chekelley68619 жыл бұрын
Every time I start thinking I'm smart.....I see something like this! Great job!
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I thought the same thing the first time I took this transaxle apart.
@JohnBrown-vn2qw9 жыл бұрын
Che Kelley yeah the more you learn the more you realize you don't know. i wish i was seventeen again thats when i knew everything
@MarioDallaRiva9 жыл бұрын
John, Excellent demonstration of this dct product. Your videos are very educational and are very much appreciated. Thanks.
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
+Mario Dalla Riva Thank you very much!
@marthagoodall7329 Жыл бұрын
I'm really impressed by the way you explain the what is what. My step dad was a shade tree mechanic. So I kinda understand the process of the repair. My dad was a great mechanic!
@guydesrochers76999 жыл бұрын
Awesome demonstration on how this transaxle shifts. I've wondered how this thing works and now I know. Thanks
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
+Guy Desrochers Thank you!
@patricknesbitt40033 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately now more people get to see how it DOESN"T shift!
@paulgareis5788 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Excellent camera work. Super detail and explanation of a complicated engineering design. Too bad this Ford Product has so many problems. I am now trying to fix a 2018 Ford Focus with Trans/Clutch issues. Thanks to a bunch of KZbin videos and this one I have learned a lot about trans/clutch issues for this vehicle.
@WittyUserName007 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks for taking the time to demo the actual changes from one gear to another.
@WeberAuto7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@adamkudla9 жыл бұрын
You're doing awesome job with making this videos. This is super relaxing video on Saturday morning and even better food for thought.
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
+Adam Kudła Thank you for watching!
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@Gusomilkprod6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the wonderful explanation on the inner workings of the DPS6 Transmission. Really nice design, but be execution love the low miles of the car, I can deal with the shudders, but mine just went out, and luckily I'm covered by some coverage extension. Hopefully the next ford I get won't give me this much trouble, and again thank you so much.
@WeberAuto6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@nasmitty52617 жыл бұрын
Great video Weber. Great understanding how that double clutch works in my car now. Got my car out today and it was exactly as you explained, clutch foul from lubricant. The new seals are brown now instead of black. Ford really did me right on this one. All the recalls, and additions from the dealer I can't explain and a detail. I knew I was buying some new, really un-tested crap but I bought it anyway. I haven't had allot of problems with the car to be honest, I just figured it to be quarks but after all the work and the trans controller, it really drives nice now. Keep in mind I took the car in for door latch recall.
@nasmitty52617 жыл бұрын
My friend has a 2014 as opposed to my 2013 and just complains all the time but never takes it in. Also has a Master cylinder check valve leak which screws everything up. Maybe 2014 wasn't a good year.
@WeberAuto7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am glad to hear you got yours fixed and operating properly. Thanks for the feedback.
@alanjm12342 жыл бұрын
@@nasmitty5261 if your friend never takes the car in to be fixed, how does he expect it to get better?
@BroadcastBuddy9 жыл бұрын
Excellent and thorough review! I researched the Focus when looking for a car in 2012 and this transmission had me look at the Chevy Cruze. The Focus is a nice car, but the transmission seems very costly to fix and maintain. Thank you
@johnm32698 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a fascinating description of how it works. I tested a Focus with Power Shift to-day (25th April 16) and I was very impressed by it. From comments below I am somewhat worried by its long term reliability so I still have to make a final decision
@WeberAuto8 жыл бұрын
+John M Thank you!
@festusofoegbu94906 жыл бұрын
I am amazed at your in depth knowledge. I appreciate your research work and your teaching skill. I wish to be like you. Thanks for the work.
@WeberAuto6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@olafito189 жыл бұрын
Very very nice work explaining this. I really enjoyed this lesson. Thank you for unveil the mysteries of this transmission.
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
+olafito18 Thank you!
@grege79918 жыл бұрын
John, lots of problems with this DCT in Focus and Fiesta, still on 8 week backorder cycles for the newest seals and friction material. Warranty was extended to 100,000 or 150,000 miles (don't remember which). Lots of complaints on the forums, and lots of messing around to even get in line to have this fixed.
@WeberAuto8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback!
@edmenefee12375 жыл бұрын
We got the same warranty extension150000 Miles when the clutches went out for the 3rd time at 89000 miles we took it in and the dealership said that was only for computer reprogramming. The cost was $2200. Thanks ford, and they wonder why people buy foreign.
@CliffKe9 жыл бұрын
this is quite useful information for a normal non engineer people who own the car, thanks lots
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
+Cliff Ke Thank you!
@arahtson16 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the effort to demonstrate how that transaxle works before to watch the video, I was lost :) I have not idea how it works. now I know cause I have a 2014 Fiat 500L with a Dual Dry clutch that I need to work on it.
@WeberAuto6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@zResetify9 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this for so long.... THANK YOU MR.WEBER
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
Chris Spencer Thank you for watching!
@drdremd9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. I had one in a 2013 focus, unfortunately it was complete crap car wouldn't move under its own power at 100 miles. I've got a dual clutch in a VW now, works a treat.
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
+Andre juneau Thanks for the feedback!
@jameskuberski96212 жыл бұрын
I have one of these, and never changed the clutches but had the TCM replaced once. 213k miles. It does buck a little when getting the shafts to the same speed from a stop, but I've changed how i drive to better suit it and it drives pretty well. I give it what i know it expects with throttle position to better its shifting and it does just fine for me. A seal on the CV let it leak and now it makes some noise from being low on fluid, but its topped off again and running strong- that was 40k miles ago. Lots of interstate driving is about all it sees. Probably wouldn't of made it past 60k in the city.
@michaelallen25018 жыл бұрын
My mother's Focus uses this transaxle. Feels like a manual the way the clutches apply. Spins the tires on accident, often. And you can't brake torque it. It defaults to neutral so it revs like you have the clutch pedal depressed in a manual. Even in drive, as long as your stopped with the brake depressed. It's been in under warranty once to have a clutch motor replaced and a reflash. Certainly better than the CVT alternative, and gets remarkably good mileage, thanks to the lack of slippage.
@WeberAuto8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Allen Thanks for the feedback!
@Okie-Tom5 ай бұрын
Very good demonstration Sir. Thank you!
@6speedguy8458 жыл бұрын
One advantage of a DCT is that it can pre-select the next gear. Say you're in first, the transmission will have second pre-selected, and all the transmission has to do is engage the clutch that drives second to shift from first to second, and with most DCT systems you can shift without lifting off the gas. If you don't let off the gas in a regular manual transmission, you can reduce the life span of your clutch and transmission.
@alanjm12342 жыл бұрын
The DCT actually lifts off the gas for you. And rev matches on down shifts too. The TCM "talks" to the PCM and operates the throttle. When it's working well it's excellent. Unfortunately some, like the wet clutch 6DCT450 are far too sensitive to dirty oil, and dry clutch versions can overheat their clutches.
@s2k672 Жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration as well as presentation of DCT. Thanks
@herberdariogarciazambrano58839 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video, I am a user of one Ford and it is very useful and now I know how it Works.Again Thank you and congratulations from Colombia.
@VictorDunkle7 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have learned that ford has updated their software for the tcm so that it delivers better shifting capabilities as well as better responsiveness. I just purchased a 2017 focus in February and it rides and shifts great(so far lol). It was a big change since I traded an 05 focus for this new one. I plan on taking it on a road trip in a few years from now. Again great video! This is the only way I can learn from these hands on easy to understand videos
@WeberAuto7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@srdporter9 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always. I greatly appreciate the time you took to present this. I find it fascinating to witness something broken down into digestible chunks. It's also amazing to discover the workings are actually pretty straightforward! I have absolutely no idea how somebody would give this a thumbs down!!! Ignoramus!
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
Andrew Porter Thank you very much! it is fun to figure out how these new transmissions work.
@williamlopez459 жыл бұрын
Great to see how DCT actually works. Very cool.
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
+William Lopez Thanks for watching!
@ltd45174 жыл бұрын
That is amazing, I was wondering what that lurch was between 1st and 2nd, turns out it was the engagement of one of the two clutches as the transmission switched input shafts.
@wcvp3 жыл бұрын
12:00, my car unfortunately has one of these (2014 focus) and in practice it is does not act like a traditional automatic transmission lol Thanks for making this video though, I love to see how the internals of something I own work, especially explained by someone that knows what they're talking about.
@WeberAuto3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching
@regdor81874 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you!....Overly complicated for it's mission.....Does not appear very robust.....
@GammaCruxis9 жыл бұрын
Wonderful wonderful. I was secretly hoping you'd get your hands on one of the DSG (DCT) transmissions from either VW or Ford. Nice clear explanation - I've learned much. Thank you!
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bobdadruma7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your great video. I just bought a 2017 Tucson and Just knowing how it works makes me feel competent to operate the vehicle in the proper way so as not to prematurely wear the dual clutch.
@WeberAuto7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jasonjoncas59983 жыл бұрын
Hey John my daughter bought a 2012 Focus with this transmission had to have the two common repairs done input seals and tcm module. The problem with this transmission is the application its for supercars ripping the track all or nothing. Not for your daily commuters stop and go or the worse for the clutch creep. Let your foot off the brake you creep the clutch is slipping give it a throttle input now fully engaged. When you brake it disengages the clutch so dont creep told my daughter that and at 250,000 k this thing still going. Still think a pos put in the wrong application but still interesting the engineering it took to make this.
@WeberAuto3 жыл бұрын
I am sorry to hear of the troubles with that car. Best wishes
@joevignolor4u9498 жыл бұрын
As noted one major difference between this transmission and a traditional manual is that the two apply bearings push to engage the clutches, which is the opposite of a throwout bearing that pushed to disengage the clutch when the pedal is pushed down in a manual transmission vehicle. In a manual throwout bearings used to wear out and need periodic replacement along with the clutch. It was an ongoing and repetitive maintenance liability. And if the driver had the bad habit of resting his foot on the clutch pedal the throwout bearing would spin continuously and wear out very quickly. My fear is that along with the dual clutches needing periodic replacement the apply bearings, which are spinning continuously under load during cruising, will also require periodic replacement. There are already reports of these transmissions needing clutch and/or apply bearing replacement at 25,000 mile intervals. This will be very expensive for the owner if the vehicle is out of warranty.
@WeberAuto8 жыл бұрын
Good point! Thanks for the feedback. Wet clutch dual clutches seem to be the better method.
@joevignolor4u9498 жыл бұрын
True. Also in a wet clutch arrangement the transmission could continuously feed lubricating oil to the release/engagement bearings (or whatever they call them) to extend their life. The problem with a dry clutch arrangement is that the bearings only have the lubricating grease packed inside them that has to last the life of the bearing, which has to spin continuously under load for long periods. I've read reports of loud grinding noises during gear changes coming from these transmissions. That sounds like the release/engagement bearings, similar to a bad throw-out bearing in a traditional manual.
@nguyenhk807 жыл бұрын
Thank you John. Very nice demonstration and presentation.
@WeberAuto7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@thomasedwin19 жыл бұрын
I understand how this 6 speed trans works, the problem is the computer module that controls the clutch and what gear it should be in is not advanced enough to shift the trans correctly or has a lack of sensors to know when to shift up or down. Also since the shift mechanism that engages and disengages the two dry clutches are driven by electric motors or survos they do not have a sufficient battery power to operate correctly because of faulty ground connections. This will cause shuddering, pausing or even the trans engaging at idle and moving the car setting at a stop light forcing the car into traffic or at other times will not supply enough drive power to merge with high speed highway traffic. Also the trans has a problem with a leak of lubricant getting into the dry clutch housing causing the clutch to not have enough friction to drive the vehicle and then the tcm or transmission control module thinks it in the wrong gear and it does not know what to do causing malfunction resulting in hazardous or life threatening operation.
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
+Thomas edwin Thanks for your feedback!
@chrisw14625 жыл бұрын
I sincerely doubt that better ground connection or better servos would solve this. The fork mechanism itself has too much give. With a "normal" clutch, the springs hold the plates engaged, and the forks pull them apart. The forks don't have to be responsible for the large solid force needed to smoothly engage the clutch - that's all the spring's job. With this transmission, the springs hold the plates apart, and the fork has to supply the power to not only push the plates together but also overcome the spring tension. The forks are relatively thin and use a lever action, so they are prone to deflection. It would only take a few thousandths of an inch (hundredths of a millimeter) deflection to start oscillation in the clutch, which I believe is what's happening. Anyone who's ever used a metal lathe and heard the cutter scream while it chatters knows exactly what this looks like, and how even the stiffest machine can oscillate under the right conditions. That fork actuator is nowhere near stiff enough.
@torqueunlimited35224 жыл бұрын
How about the throwout bearing? Seems like it doesn't have any balls or needle type roller in it. That may cause more friction on pressure plates.
@dougtomich50933 жыл бұрын
i heard there is an extended warranty on the computer.. ~150k miles (not recall though)
@dougtomich50933 жыл бұрын
this is exactly what happened to me! . Also the trans has a problem with a leak of lubricant getting into the dry clutch housing causing the clutch to not have enough friction to drive the vehicle and then the tcm or transmission control module thinks it in the wrong gear and it does not know what to do causing malfunction resulting in hazardous or life threatening operation. what causes this leak?
@tonyjordan13203 жыл бұрын
My niece had to have her dual clutch replaced last year, did they have to dump the trans. fluid when they did the repair or should I still change her fluid out for preventive maint.???
@indrajithkm45403 жыл бұрын
Thank u sir 🙏. I have a doubt also .there is any timing mark for selector gears
@WeberAuto3 жыл бұрын
Not at all. Thanks for watching
@dankollars4501 Жыл бұрын
great video, thx. i would love to see you take that dual clutch apart and let us know how it works.
@eljanuar6 жыл бұрын
Great video, can you please tell me, what causing the slipped, shutter and the reverse gear is not engaged on this transmission
@WeberAuto6 жыл бұрын
In early models, there were oil leaks from the input shafts. In later models shuddering is just part of normal operation. I fo not know why reverse would not engage.
@maharanipancasari14804 жыл бұрын
7:35 I try to recondition the dual clutch, but I always fail to get the right touch points. Can you show or tell me the thickness of the clutch canvas to get the right touch point ?? please and thank you very much, Master..
@cxdrive14 жыл бұрын
The only way to get the right touch points is to hook up the Ford IDS connected to IDS software on a laptop and run through a "clutch re-learn procedure". Other than that, you could attempt to drive the vehicle (not recommended) until the TCM learns the touch points.
@maharanipancasari14804 жыл бұрын
@@cxdrive1 i mean, I would like to know what is the ideal coupling lining thickness for the recommended touch point (0.9-0.11) i try to recondition, but i got up = 0.20 down = 0.7 anyway, finally i've bought a new repset dct 🤭
@cxdrive14 жыл бұрын
@@maharanipancasari1480 Sorry can't help you there. I've never heard of someone attempting to recondition this clutch and have never had to measure the thickness of the clutch discs. As far as I know, the clutch assembly is supposed to be "non-serviceable". A new one should be installed for correct performance.
@SexyAndlKnowIt8 жыл бұрын
Can you explain the why the clutch slips and causes a shudder concern with this design? The first batch of these DPS6 transmissions have a leaky input shaft seal and the clutch gets contaminated by the dual clutch fluid. These clutches get replaced every 5k-15k miles even after the input shaft seals get replaced.
@ismaelalvarado7067 ай бұрын
I wonder how did you cleaned it out the in-house, it looks nice 👌 I took down mine but I couldn't clean it like that...😢😢😢 Thanks for the video very goo general information 👍 👍👍
@hd2218135 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, it would be very interesting to see a video describing the single dry clutch Magneti Marelli "Selespeed" automated manual transmission, used for example on the Ram ProMaster (Fiat Ducato) 3.0 EcoDiesel.
@paullassen93368 жыл бұрын
OK, I didn't catch the name of the gear assembly that the TCM uses to control the shift forks But is there a alignment mark between the two ? I can see if the gears were not placed to synchronize with one another when ramping the forks in and out of desired gear. It could cause one gear to engage before another is free and vice versa. Essentially causing a shutter or jerking.
@WeberAuto8 жыл бұрын
The gears are called Shift Drums. There are not alignment marks, they just have to be installed in the neutral gear position. The TCM will then learn their positions with a scan tool function. The shuttering or jerking is because of the clutch disks being contaminated, or dirty, or glazed, etc. Best wishes.
@neneautorepairs1602 Жыл бұрын
Most educational, clearly explained. Thank you.
@cxdrive14 жыл бұрын
Okay guys, listen up here. Shuddering is caused by non-aggressive driving. Which means the more you take it easy on your accelerations from a stop, the more the clutch slips and causes overheating problems with the clutch disc and flywheel. This causes "hot spots" on the pressure plate and flywheel creating "shuddering". There is nothing wrong with the shuddering condition, your car won't break down. P073 codes and lack of reverse or forward movement is caused by a faulty TCM. Ford also has hidden warranty on this, so inquire before you pay for repairs. A replacement TCM is usually necessary followed by reprogramming and clutch "re-learn" procedures. If you have to pay, you should know that the TCM takes less than 1hr to change out, but I don't the cost of the TCM itself. The Focus is a fantastic car otherwise, great on fuel, handles like a dream, comfortable and fun to drive! That's all I can say about that!
@luisalbertorios71867 жыл бұрын
muy buenos dias saludos desde colombia muy grato por los videos exelentes que nos brinda donde puedo ver el final gracias
@WeberAuto7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dougtomich50933 жыл бұрын
i have a 2012 ford focus that's transmission went out after 45k miles; i was not smart enough to look at the warranty, so i took it to A+ transmission in houston tx. They re-built the transmission for $3500 (4/29/17). on 11/9/21, clutch stopped shifting gears, so i took it back to A+ Transmission in houston (shepherd & washington) and they said fluid was leaking past the seal and the fluid made the clutch brittle, so it needs to be replaced; they quoted $3900 this time. I do not know anything on this subject other than what I have seen in this video (which it was super comprehensive and very informative). i am supposed to call back to give the go ahead on the $3800 repair or the $700 to put the transmission back together... i am leaning toward the $700 option b/c who knows if the seal will leak again... am i right to think this way?
@akinkunmiolagoke53952 жыл бұрын
I have a Ford focus 2014.it engaged at first gear when it about to engage the second gear it will disengage, please what can be the cause and how to fix it
@Kingsoupturbo9 жыл бұрын
I've been driving a 2012 Focus with the DCT for 80,000kms now, the Trans control module failed recently, causing it to pop out of gear, we're getting a new TCM now, but as I've done trans work on other cars I was curious to see how it works, just 4 electric motors really do the automation, I find the car is quite conservative with its clutch slippage, probably to prolong the life of the unit, it still has pretty fast upshifts and puts the power down nicely, good stuff!
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
+Kingsoupturbo Thanks for watching!
@paulaxford67548 жыл бұрын
I have a VW with the 7-speed dry clutch DSG which mostly works without any drama. The big difference as most are aware is that the Getrag actuators are electric instead of hydraulic as on the VW. I have to wonder that if the next gear is not the one preselected whether the motors are fast enough to change gear without noticeable delay? And as others are, I'm amazed that they (both) use what appear to be relatively conventional technology for the throwout bearings. And that the actuation mechanism is exposed to dust from the clutch disks which cannot be good for grease present. Oh, one other item worth mentioning in your fascinating videos, inherent in this design there must be mechanical means to lockout invalid combinations of actions under fault conditions such as being in two odd or two even gears at the same time, or having both clutches engaged. Perhaps that's partly taken care of by the shift cam drums?
@WeberAuto8 жыл бұрын
Yes, the drums prevent that. Wet dual clutches seem to be the most trouble free. Thanks for your feedback.
@gregoireaimar4 ай бұрын
Hello, i have rebuild thé same Gear box for clio 4 rs but i dont know the position of the Gears connected with shift fork. Have you documentation ? Thanks.
@garrieparsons22652 жыл бұрын
I put two new clutch forks inside my transmission. Then put back together. Hooked it up to my computer to do a transmission relearn .. the test failed said clutch travel fail then test ended . Does that mean I should of replaced clutch as well as the two forks a and b ???? Thanks what a pain doing the job on my driveway also I bought special tools and a computer just to do this job instead of letting ford do it at around 5k I’m sure ??? Thanks
@carlospiezzi40303 жыл бұрын
Excellent sir, impeccable as always, thank you.
@WeberAuto3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@CC-ul3qo Жыл бұрын
Very well Explained with much detail, thank you.👍
@guigui783409 жыл бұрын
i felt high on knowledge, the best drug in the world. thank you.
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
+sugar glider Thank you!
@kelblueskies39379 жыл бұрын
Look at the TSB's on these transmission before buying a car with one, just a warning. Not sure if the 2015's are any better but previous models years had lots of problems. Apparently the problem starts from the seal on the input shaft leaking fluid which gets in the plates, which you sort of seen in your video, whether than was grease or fluid can only guess.
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
+Only1Truth Thanks for the feedback!
@rogercooper519211 ай бұрын
Great video thanks. Really helped me understand what's going on in my transmission.
@watermalanblew Жыл бұрын
Is the bearing on the housing serviceable without splitting the case ?
@awder44 жыл бұрын
No matter how interesting the pieces and How majestic the configuration, it failed on Ford vehicles, that what matters! my 2017 Ford Focus shakes like a belly dancer when it shifts the lower gears!
@christopherjacob98523 жыл бұрын
Try the grounding method, clear the grounds by removing the paint
@pacorrorasing3785 жыл бұрын
The Clio R.S. EDC uses the same gearbox ??
@denisdanielmuresan26752 жыл бұрын
I would apreciate if you find and examine a dual clucth from VAG products. DSG or Stronic (dry or wet)
@jamyspradlin85043 жыл бұрын
Thank you John. Great explanation of assembly and operation of this transmission.
@acdii6 ай бұрын
What would cause the inner shaft to rotate opposite the outer shaft and bind?
@pfweeks9 жыл бұрын
John, that was an excellent presentation!
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
+pfweeks Thank you!
@twix2756 Жыл бұрын
My 2014 focus hatch is currently getting the clutch replaced. 5 weeks $3,200. Tcm went out, replaced under recall. "tcm destroyed clutch, needs replaced"
@chrisw14625 жыл бұрын
So the clutches are normally disengaged as a failsafe - if one clutch activator fails, it won't try to engage two gears at the same time. I have to wonder if that is the reason for the shuddering and rough shifting reported for the Focus and Fiesta that used it. I can't imagine having to program the clutch activators to account for the different forces experienced as the clutch engages. The only way I could see to get more solid control would be a lead-screw activator instead of the forks. Much more mass, very solid linkage to combat bounce, and totally unfeasible on regular automotive transmissions (size, weight, cost), forget a dual clutch.
@xxxpensive1415 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what happened to the chief engineer of the dtc powertrain
@robertstone20513 жыл бұрын
Should I change the fluid at 60000 if it has never been changed
@pacorrorasing3785 жыл бұрын
Very good video Thanks !!!!!👍👍👍
@omcuriel8 жыл бұрын
hi I want to know if my escape 2015 have a duo dry cluch like the ford focus tnx four your answers
@WeberAuto8 жыл бұрын
No, it does not. Thanks for watching.
@omcuriel8 жыл бұрын
with kind of transmission have the ford escape 2015 titanium ? tnx four you the answer
@jamalsalam65814 жыл бұрын
Hi thank you for the informations and your efforts, how much it cost to replace the clutch and which city you are , Regards
@WeberAuto4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I do not know
@360milliondollars9 жыл бұрын
So what will make my car jerk so badly? Is it the flywheel or the clutches? Also something behind the firewall is knocking after said jerk in my Ford Fusion 2014 AWD model 2.0 liter. I think it may be the same transmission that is in the Focus if not both of these transmission have some serious problems. The car idles funny now after taking it to a Ford dealer is when I started to notice these problems.
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
+The Trillion Dollar Gods Hi, I don't think the fusion has the same transaxle. I would take it back to the dealer and let them know what has happened. Thanks for watching!
@eugenenault4935 Жыл бұрын
Transmission rebuilder for 40 yrs here, this concept is off the wall crazy, many other ways to achieve automatic operation within transmission. A 5 speed standard manual clutch operational transmission would do wonders for this Ford Focus vehicle. Today’s breeds of humans couldn’t grasp standard clutch operation. Cell phone texting is what they excel in.
@ajsaenz22958 жыл бұрын
Is there a part number for the 2 specialty tools required to remove/install the Dual Clutch?
Hello everyone, this US clutch problem has been around for some time now. Here in Brazil it is recent. How is it solved out there? Are the dealers changing the parts? Here in Brazil it takes more than 5 months to change the clutch. Is there a queue in the US too? How's the issue out there? Thank you
@WeberAuto8 жыл бұрын
Yes, a clutch change and software update are the attempted fixes. We have the same problem. Thanks for your feedback!
@ovidiolibreros93236 жыл бұрын
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@WeberAuto6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kevinb15745 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the detailed video! The Powershift automatic is garbage and just about everyone knows it. The Detroit Free Press did a large article detailing all the problems with this transmission. If you have one and haven't had it fail yet consider yourself lucky. I had mine under a year and they had to replace the transmission because it would not drive, just slipped constantly. In the five years I have had the car it has been in the shop a dozen times for transmission issues. Just this past week they replaced the clutch again and now the differential bearings are worn out. Up until now the warranty covered all the repairs. Now they want $2k to fix it! Should the differential bearing last longer than four years? They put a brand new transmission in just four years again almost to the day.
@svbeattie406 жыл бұрын
When you come to a stop, is the clutch automatically disengaged when the brakes are applied?
@WeberAuto6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@anthonyprice56153 жыл бұрын
Where can we get the assembly table for the gearbox build
@MrPiterpk19 жыл бұрын
thank you would you be able to cover getrag 6DCT650 model of dual clutch powertshift by any chance
@WeberAuto9 жыл бұрын
+Piotr K I wish I has access to one, but I do not. Thanks for watching!
@carlwarmington53258 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am curious what parts would be called the Actuator Fork A? I ask as some owners are now being told that have issues that this part Actuator Fork needed to be replaced at very expensive costs EG:$4,000.00 USD (includes parts & labor).
@WeberAuto8 жыл бұрын
Hi, the round drums with gears on them move the forks.
@chatolopez42682 жыл бұрын
I turn manualy to the left the c1 or actuator motor A shaft I mean were it conect to move the fork , and turn the clutch by hand and engage. I did the same to c2 or actuator shaft B and clutch doesn´t ingaged, I guess should engage too. I am right or wrong?
@BehzadEghtesad2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks for great explanation. do we need to do clutch reset prosessure for used clutch too? i swaped my clutch / forks with used one, no i don't have any shifting. P0805 and 6 also. but before the car was driving.
@jaymoney4265 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm just confused as to how the tcm knows what position the shift forks are at, upon initial start up? Does the tcm just automatically shift the fork to 1st gear everytime the vehicle is started? How does it know if it's already there, IE battery disconnected in first gear, and vehicle shut off, or is there a sensor that transmits data from each input shaft, or shift fork, to the tcm?
@toomanyuserids3 жыл бұрын
This transmission has been a huge problem for Ford. If you could get hold of the comparable VW Getrag that doesn't seem the same problems it would be interesting to see the differences if any.
@leewalker120 Жыл бұрын
how long does the new seal stop wet clutch? My dealer rebuild lasted one tear.