Weebill 3S vs DJI RS3 Mini vs Crane M3S and The Surprising Results

[@SamuelSotiega]

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[@outofthecommonphotography5503]

I know this video is 10 months old I wanted to let you know that this video in particular help me finalize my decision to get the Weebill 3S. I'm just about to get into gimbals and all I ever heard of was DJI. Looking at the price though it would've been a stretch for me. I saw the Zhiyun 3S in the past and thought maybe that. Then the Crane showed up. UGH Now what? After all my reviewing I was comfortable to get the 3S. Now, I'm not just a photographer but an actor as well. I have written a feature that includes some fight scenes. Which makes your video THE BEST in really solidifying my decision. I mean, you tested the 3 I was looking at. And you used stunt fighters to do it!!! I couldn't have asked for a more appropriate video for me to see! LOL Now, onward to see your video on just the 3S. So, thank you! NEW SUB!!!

[@SamuelSotiega]

All I can say is that it is a good gimbal that I always use when i have heavier payloads!!

[@Bonedaddy-q6w]

Very detailed comparison, actual practical points than just reading off a spec sheet. Thanks

[@SamuelSotiega]

Thanks! Glad you found it helpful!

[@danielbogos263]

" Real life environment" and its a fight scene.😂😂😂. Good one😂

[@SamuelSotiega]

Glad you liked it! 😂

[@robertaltman222]

Great discussion - My own experience has been to always go with a bit bigger gimbal/payload than your setup requires- balancing/using will be much easier (and a bit of missed balance will be easier for the stronger motors to deal with). I have th older Weebil S - it is great for an APS-C mirrorless (the smaller Crane M3S - while theoretically perfect for that setup failed miserably!)

[@SamuelSotiega]

Thanks for chipping in. The Weebill S is a great gimbal too. But the performance I got from the 3S was really, really good. And very stable and super easy to balance. I just wish the screen would be as fancy as the RS3 mini, but I guess this is something they can improve on in future versions. But as a gimbal, it works really smooth... But yes, for smaller compact APSC cameras with a lightweight lens it would be an overkill....

[@sviraz]

very informative video and great comparison between the 3 gimbals. However, i would never shoot a fight scene with gimbal, unless you are going to add extra shake effect in post. it just look way too static, doesn't have that "dramatic" feel. OFC its only my opinion.

[@SamuelSotiega]

In the context of the storyline for where that fight would fit in relation to the characters and their circumstances, it made sense to use a gimbal, and then the director would add shake whenever he wanted... But I do take your point, most fights you want that raw feeling you get from handheld..

[@AgainstThisWorld]

Sorry english is not my first language at 4:00 he says it's enough to send the gimbal back what gimbal? The Weebil also or just the RS3 MINI?

[@SamuelSotiega]

I meant the DJI RS3 mini. That flaw in itself would make me send it back. That is what I meant. I hope you enjoyed the video!

[@AgainstThisWorld]

great video @@SamuelSotiega

[@SamuelSotiega]

@@AgainstThisWorld thanks, glad you liked it!

[@CarpeDiemRelax]

Thanks for your insightful opinion, such reviews are priceless. Kind regards!

[@SamuelSotiega]

Thanks! Glad you liked it!!

[@igorsocha46]

I was working with rs3 mini in my previous work and i liked it. But the problem with adjusting it whenever you use some more front/top heavy lens or other equipment (mic, filters etc) was a big no for me. My next gimbal will be weebill 3s. Thank you for this detailed review!

[@SamuelSotiega]

Glad you found the video helpful!!

[@seckinsahin]

Are the cameras and lenses you use with the RS3 mini known?

[@mrigendrabist2148]

Hey ik I’m late but which one do prefer more now ?

[@igorsocha46]

@@seckinsahin Sony A7III + Tamron 17-28mm or 28-75mm

[@igorsocha46]

@@mrigendrabist2148 i am using Weebill 3S (combo version with armrest) for two months now and i am very much satisfied... My combo is A7CII + Tamron 17-50mm and i like it much more than RS3 mini

[@juanmiguelbondoc4453]

great review ++the cinematic fight scene was superbb!!! props to the actors was planning to buy the rs3 mini but this video def saved me 👍

[@SamuelSotiega]

I think there are better options for your money! Thanks for the feedback!

[@bsanb69]

Thank You, From Brazil

[@SamuelSotiega]

You’re welcome! Viva Brazil!!

[@diogoredes]

Great review, thank you! Btw, have you tested the Weebill 3E? I was wondering how it compares to the 3S. Found some other videos about it, but was curious about your opinion.

[@SamuelSotiega]

I haven't had a chance and I don't think i will, as I am now focusing on creating 3 courses and reviewing that gimbal is not in my to-do list... Sorry... There is only so much one person can do on his own...

[@LengLynn]

I think 3S is better haha, although weebill 3e is more economical, it has only 1 port, which means you can connect it with camera but other accessories are not allow to connect to the gimbal

[@TOPSFANIS]

Is possible to use M3S with a monopod or a tripod? The newQuick release plate system looks not so compatible. Any thoughts?

[@SamuelSotiega]

I use it with no issues. The base of the gimbal has a 1/4inch thread, so no issues there.... Is that what you were after?

[@TOPSFANIS]

@@SamuelSotiega I would like to used it with popular manfrotto's (501PL ) monopods etc. Ronin S2-3-4 are compatible but from M3S isn't. (The base plate is my issue here).

[@casotti72]

Hey Samuel thx a lot for this in-depth review. Just a quick question. What did you use to attach the monitor to the handle of the weebill 3s? As seen at the minute 14.45. THX!

[@SamuelSotiega]

I used, on those particular shots, the following 1x Triple Hot Shoe Base Mount amzn.to/3Q4YBZv and 1 of these cold shoe mount adaptor amzn.to/3EX8Kky. Then one of these Hot Shoe Mount with Locating Pin for Atomos Ninja V amzn.to/3EWuGfG but you can you other mounts or even generic mount ones if you want. Make sure it is the right connector for your monitor! I hope this helps, Let me know

[@leonfisher]

Thumbs up for the stuntmen. Great review as well.

[@SamuelSotiega]

Thanks!! Glad you liked it! And yes, the stuntmen are top guys, suoer professional.

[@LivingSmallLivingMobile1]

Fantastic video! Thanks for taking the time to do this. The Weebill 3S looks great BUT I really like the hohem MT2 (mostly for the AI tracking). How would you say the two compare? Thanks again. Mark

[@SamuelSotiega]

Thanks for the feedback. The weebill 3S is a much bigger gimbal for, in my opinion, heavier camera payloads. The MT2 is not as accurate in the adjustments but it has a brilliant AI tracker. The question is, would you benefit from, or use, the AI tracking on the Mt2?

[@LivingSmallLivingMobile1]

@@SamuelSotiega thanks Samuel. I’m a solo creator, so the AI tracking would be a very useful thing for me. I had a few gimbals a few years ago for smart phones and they really didn’t work very well by the time you had accessories like third-party lenses and filters so this time I’m looking for one that’s probably designed for a mirror camera so I don’t run into any weight restrictions.

[@SamuelSotiega]

@@LivingSmallLivingMobile1 i think the Mt2 will be a very flexible and functional gimbal for you. Plus, in this video I left a 15% discount coupon, if interested.. Hohem MT2 vs M6. Which One Makes More Sense? kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHvFnmRodrFjbck

[@MGSPL]

I plan to buy a gimbal for sony a7c with 24-70. Filming weddings and sometimes some action, what gimbal do you recommend from the three presented?

[@SamuelSotiega]

The Weebill 3S would be my first choice. It will handle the payload and will give you so many customisation settings. May I ask, the lens you plan to use, does it extend as you zoom in and out or not? Because obviously if it extends as you zoom it changes the center of gravity and balancing… let me know, please!

[@MGSPL]

@@SamuelSotiega I sometimes use approximation :)

[@SamuelSotiega]

@@MGSPL sometimes it’s the only way to go..

[@Randomguy-gu3tj]

i want to buy a gimbal. but i'm very confused which one to buy for my Canon eos 80D + 50mm prime lens.Between weebill-s & Dji Rs3 mini . i make shorts & cinematic vlog video ...please help me Sam. which one i'll buy? or any other option in this budget .

[@SamuelSotiega]

What,s the combined weight of the camera with battery and lens?

[@Randomguy-gu3tj]

@@SamuelSotiega Camera -730g (1.61 lb ) ,, lens -159g

[@SamuelSotiega]

@@Randomguy-gu3tj thanks for this. Would you like the gimbal to have the ability to track you or faces or that is not important or relevant to you?

[@Randomguy-gu3tj]

@@SamuelSotiega after using usb cable ? can i use those feature? or can you suggest me another travel tiny gimbal for my setup.

[@husseinaliabdulzahraal-dul1575]

I'm curious to what lens you're using on M3S with Canon M6 mkii I have Crane M3 and it cannot handle a vertical camera in a cage for shooting vertical content I'm using a7c and ZV-E1 with tamron 17-28mm and it can barely hold the weight and once I tilt the camera downwards the gimbal just loses balance and falls off such a bummer and I feel ripped is M3S the same?

[@SamuelSotiega]

I use the Crane M3S which has a bit higher payload and stronger motors. But with the M6 MK2, I use a Canon 11-22mm lens, very lightweight and compact when doing vertically. It is not the best option as there is no specific vertical mode. I think your setup is heavier than the M6 MK2 _ 11-22 kens.... Is vertical your main filming format? Let me know and I can give you some suggestions, if interested..

[@husseinaliabdulzahraal-dul1575]

@SamuelSotiega thank you for replying yes I mainly do vertical content Could you please give me a recommendation?

[@ShadowExtermC]

Amazing video Samuel, greetings from Perú!

[@SamuelSotiega]

Thanks for the feedback and glad you enjoyed it! My next 2 videos are thr weebill 3S review, you might find it interesting and then followed by the review of a new gimbal coming into the market that is really exciting. Can’t say no more. So stay tuned or subscribe to know the moment they go live. Cheers! Viva Perú!!

[@kostasrestas]

At weebill 3 ,when you have it on pov mode for examble , can you push the trigger button to switch to lock mode for the time that you pushing it , and when releasing it, the trigger button ,can came back at pov mode again autocaticaly ?? You know , for use lock mode just for some seconds and going back at main selected mode instantly ,like Dji s gimbals ... Weebill s doent doing that and i sold it for that !

[@SamuelSotiega]

I am going to test and check that tonight. Chase me for an answer tomorrow if I haven’t come back to you…

[@gabinofotografia1677]

How do I put a monitor on the webill 3s?

[@SamuelSotiega]

I mounted it on the handle grip. I used a cold shoe adaptor on the handle and then added a monitor mount, then monitor onto it. I hope it makes sense, let me know!

[@Hubieee]

Did you experience problems with tilting with the Weebill? Other reviewers mentioned that if you mount longer lenses on it the camera is colliding with the motor im the back when tilting up. Great review, wonder how I could miss the Weebill for so long. Perhaps because dji got the better and larger marketing ^^.

[@SamuelSotiega]

Well, it all depends on ergonomics and how long the lens turns out to be. However, I was able to balance a Canon 24-70mm L series, and the barrel extends when at its widest 24mm, and it was able to balance it. It all depends on the camera size and lens length really… but as a gimbal, the 3S, once you get the settings right, it buttery smooth..

[@pgsm15]

Is there any way to grease up the rs3 mini so that the axis can slide more easily because its very annoying trying to do small movements on each axis?

[@SamuelSotiega]

It’s the material they used for the bar. I don’t know how to make it better. To be honest, I sent mine back and use the Weebill 3S. Much smoother. I wish I had an answer to you on this. If push comes to shove, I could suggest a bit of vaseline or lip balm, to try, but that in itself sounds a bit of a botch job to start with… But it might just work..

[@SilatShooter]

Wow, great video! A lot of good information shared. Glad I came across your channel. Subscribed! Was looking for a smaller gimbal for my new A6700 and lens combo.

[@SamuelSotiega]

Thanks for the feedback! Do you have one specific in mind?

[@SilatShooter]

@@SamuelSotiega so would you pick the M3s for small Mirrorless set up?

[@SamuelSotiega]

@@SilatShooter Either the M3S or the Hohem MT2. Have you watched my review of the MT2? If face/ person tracking is important to you, you should watch that one… The M3S gives you many lore options for adjustments but the MT2 is awesome for tracking a person or face with its AI tracker… it depends on what you need…

[@SilatShooter]

@@SamuelSotiega will do, missed that review but sounds really interesting.

[@lilianbessin4729]

Hello thanks for the video. I would ask u, I wanna buy the 3s but i hesitate with the crane 4 of zhyiun (i know he's not in the video) because i don't know if i can put on the 3s lot of accesories like follow focus gear ring or idk, and also if my sony a7iv with a 70-200 or 24-70 is easy to balance for the 3s or it's limit ? thank u for ur answer

[@SamuelSotiega]

I don't think the M3S will be able to handle the payload, as you want to add accessories. You will need a beefier gimbal. The Crane M4 is a way, way more capable gimbal, but also larger. Are you ok with the extra size?

[@lilianbessin4729]

@@SamuelSotiega ho non haha i talk about the weebill 3s not the crane m3s sorry my bad. I hesitate between the weebil 3s and the crane 4, so my question before was about the weebill 3s

[@sviraz]

70-200 on a gimbal? for real ? I would suggest a proper tripod + head for this type of work. I can imagine some scenarios for 200mm and more for gimbal, but this would be more for "man in a crowd" trying to reach over people in front

[@elliotnomanches]

Thanks for this. Where did you find that sling handle with the top screw mount for the Zhiyun M3S? I can't find it anywhere!

[@SamuelSotiega]

I believe I left a link for it in the video description. I got it off amazon. Let me know if the link works or doesn’t work for you.

[@elliotnomanches]

@@SamuelSotiega Thanks - sorry if I'm being slow - I can only see a link for the gimbal itself. There is a link for the Smallrig DJI handle though. I don't think that fits the Zhiyun?

[@SamuelSotiega]

@@elliotnomanches you are right! I missed that out. I just left s link there now. But I have noticed the US amazon and the UK Amazon have a different product. In the US Amazon the handle does not have a screw thread at the top to mount accessories, which is a bit of a bummer. Let me know!

[@elliotnomanches]

@@SamuelSotiega ah thought so! I’m in the UK. Do you know the product name of the handle and where you got it from? Also for how much? Thanks!

[@SamuelSotiega]

@@elliotnomanches if you are in the UK, this is the link amzn.to/44FE2Yf. ZHIYUN OFFICIAL Transmount Mini Dual Grip

[@salramiph]

Si quisiera algo ligero y portátil. Sin duda, el Zhiyun Crane M3S + ZVE10 + Sigma 18-50mm. f/2.8. Para tomas en vertical, lo haces con el modo Retrato. Sin retirar la cámara. (Incluso es mejor para reel, shorts y tiktok, si no vas a grabar largas horas en ese modo). Aparte el tamaño y peso del gimbal, te ahorra espacio en la mochila. Para poder llevar un lente extra o un pequeño dron. Y mucho mejor con un estuche al cinturón, para cubrir bodas. Si grabas con la cámara en mano.

[@SamuelSotiega]

I think you have very clear ideas, that’s good!

[@samt8017]

Do you turn on the stability on the camera itself too?

[@SamuelSotiega]

I always keep it on but at the standard or basic mode…

[@samt8017]

@@SamuelSotiega would you happen to know the estimated crop in when you use the basic mode? I'm just wondering because I have the same camera.

[@SamuelSotiega]

@@samt8017 it's just barely a crop in. It is not anything I am bothered with. The plus or advanced mode does crop in significantly and I never use it.

[@samt8017]

@@SamuelSotiega ok. Thanks again. 😁

[@jaydenjohnson3815]

I’m going to buy the weebil 3 but I don’t see anything about the monitor mount how did you mount the monitor ?

[@SamuelSotiega]

I reviewed the Weebill 3S. You can get a combo deal that comes with a handle grip/mount. I believe the weebill 3 combo also had it. You attach a cold shoe mount adaptor and from there I use a small rig monitor mount. Is this what you were after? I could provide links, if that would help you. Let me know!

[@thorstenschmidt212]

@@SamuelSotiega Hey, thx for the great Video and the Support here in the comments. I checked a lot of posts and videos and never saw a solution for mounting the monitor as easy like on the Weebill S. If you don't mind i would love to get those links you talked about? This would be a big help! Thanks for your work!

[@SamuelSotiega]

@@thorstenschmidt212 you need one of these amzn.to/45xuBKo and then I use one of these amzn.to/44f54ol. I hope this helps!

[@whitenightaje]

Very very nice video. appreciate the detail and articulate explanation. I know other utuber explained more, but you mentioned the most important and related info suits your work, which is enough and useful. I kinda like rs3 mini for the brand of dji haha. but i think im gonna go for crane m3s. im no professional and just casual shoot family and office mates. the smaller size setup is suitable and less overwhelming to use in asia (where people more conserved). nice video!!!

[@SamuelSotiega]

Thanks for the feedback and glad you found it helpful! 👍

[@The_Doc_Rocks]

Hi Sam - again :) I know I've said this before, and it may be my ears, but the audio on this video is quite muffled, plus there is some distortion. Are you wearing the lav mike or Rode UNDER your T-shirt? Maybe that's doing it? Or maybe your Rode has a problem? Your videos have always had excellent audio, until recently. And while my ears are not what they used to be, other videos sound crystal clear, including some of your older ones. But this one is quite muffled with a high frequency drop-off, probably around the 2KHz mark upwards. Your "in studio" segments are better audio - presumably a different mike setup. Your video from about 3 months ago on the Smooth-5S is better, but since then, your location audio has been not so good. Maybe try a different mike, and wear it outside the shirt? And I'll go and get my ears tested as my part of the deal.... ;) PS: I come from a decades-long background in studio audio engineering.

[@SamuelSotiega]

Thanks for the comment. I do hide the lav mic when filming outdoors under the shirt or stuck to the collar using foamies and medical tape. Funny you say that but after your first comment a week or so ago I got some new and rather fancy and good lav mics on their way. I look forward to using them. Maybe I am pushing the volume a bit too high as some people also commented that some of my videos were “quiet”. Trying to keep a balance for everyone…. But these new and better mics should definitely help. Maybe a video or two away from using them but hopefully you’ll be able to tell the difference when I start using them. Thanks for keeping me “in-check” on this and giving me your feedback…

[@The_Doc_Rocks]

@@SamuelSotiega You're welcome, Sam - and it's great to see somebody taking what are intended as constructive comments in the right spirit! Looking forward to hearing the difference ;) I use the Rode Wireless Go2, with the little windsock on it, and keep it outside the shirt - I don't mind people seeing it. :)

[@SamuelSotiega]

@@The_Doc_Rocks I see. I always try to keep the overall size as covert as possible. Well, how covert you can be when you use a Canon L series 16-35mm lens really. But at least I don’t have a big shotgun mic at the top. So I always like to hide mics in my clothing and other than one other comment in a different video a fee months ago I never had anyone raise an eye lid. But that doesn’t mean I donMt agree with you that there is room for improvement. I hope the investment I made will be worth it! I think you just gave me the push I needed to go for it, it was an upgradeI had been postponing for too long! Now I feel the pressure of having a pair of trained ears on my case!! 😂😂

[@phuc_seven_hair_salon6091]

M3S cho Canon r50 ..? thanks you

[@SamuelSotiega]

The R50 is 380g with card and battery. So my first answer would be yes, it will work without a problem! As long as the lens you put on is not mega heavy

[@robbie5131]

How do you do selfie videos? Im sorry im new. Is there a button to press then it camera faces you?

[@SamuelSotiega]

Usually most gimbals if you press 3 times the reset button, the gimbal spins around.

[@Gohjunyi88]

is this zhiyun sponsored?

[@SamuelSotiega]

No. Why would you say that?

[@nortsidebrixkuztom_34459]

The Dji Rs3 mini i have no problem with it the problem is how much weight have you melt on to your camera? It it is not the gimbal fault you know, if you wanna know, I suggest you get the Dji combo not the RS3 mini ,they have their weight limit, Have you checked before buying it,?? So it's not the gimbal fault like I said get it ??

[@SamuelSotiega]

I stayed within the gimbal’s limit and showed that is all you can do. I think the comparison was quite fair and showed what a buyer can expect. Thanks for commenting!

[@zaidyusup4246]

I buy rs3 mini, but after watch this video i think weebill 3s better than rs3 mini

[@SamuelSotiega]

You definitely get lore range and possibilities. I just hope that I helped adding a different perspective. But ultimately you and only you have to decide what’s best for you based on your own research. On a personal note, I have never had regrets about the Weebill 3S.

[@mrigendrabist2148]

Hey which one did you end up buying and how is the performance and reliability ?

[@ramm941]

Sony ZV E10 + Tamron 17 70 At Any Focul Range Which Gimbal I Buy?

[@SamuelSotiega]

Would having face/body tracking be important to you or not?

[@ramm941]

@@SamuelSotiegaI don't know but for making cinimatic shortfilms

[@julioreporter]

Buen video!

[@SamuelSotiega]

Muchas gracias!! Estás pensando en un gimbal?

[@gunplamontage937]

a7iii + samyang 24 70 2.8? Weight is around 650g and 1024g, that is almost 1.7kgs.

[@SamuelSotiega]

what gimbal you are leaning on more?

[@gunplamontage937]

@@SamuelSotiega im currently using the old zhiyun crane 2, but it is too big for me, and the arm is covering my screen, im planning to get this gimbal. My lenses are sigma 35mm 1.4 hsm, viltrox 85mm and the samyang 24-70

[@SamuelSotiega]

@@gunplamontage937 what gimbal exactly you got in mind?

[@gunplamontage937]

nvm

[@ThePandaPhotographer]

I can see 4:00 hmm

[@SamuelSotiega]

Food for thought! But to me this is a biggie..

[@agape798]

🙋👍🤳

[@SamuelSotiega]

Glad you liked it!!

[@Reviews4fun1]

How does someone show that they don’t know what they’re doing with a gimbal? They try and mount a huge zoom full frame lens and oversized ND filters instead of a small compact prime and preferably APSC setup. This video is hilarious 😆

[@SamuelSotiega]

Oh they are trying to push the gimbal to its limit so people can see where that limit is so they don't need to do it themselves. That is called reviewing a product..

[@blackimp4987]

Sir ... what happened to your mic?

[@SamuelSotiega]

what do you mean?