Week 12 Upset Alerts | CFB Playoff Flaws | Deion & Colorado | Bold Prediction Misses | Cole Cubelic

[@RichardL-yz8fm]

Josh, Josh, Josh… If you COULD care less about something is very different than if you COULDN’T care less: it’s IMPOSSIBLE to care any less. It’s a common mistake, but you’re way too good a communicator to flub this one. Love your show!

[@johnmcafee9741]

Bliss. Bliss.

[@user-tz2zz5ij1s]

At this point, don’t be the stickler. No one likes the person that feels compelled to correct little things like that. Everyone knows what the saying means.

[@dmullen16]

Josh - I feel like you danced around this (intentionally) during the CFB rankings segment, and have been doing so for a while now. You talked about everything under the sun except for what your Top 12 rankings would be. You call fans out all the time for their takes by asking “who would you rank ahead of X team?” Well I think it’s time for you to take some of your own medicine and give us your playoff rankings, with some commentary on how merit, power rating, on field performance, record, etc. factored into the rankings. Love the show!

[@DTraiN5795]

I’ve noticed stuff for a couple years now. He doesn’t care bc they keep growing n he feeds the people who think like him. He knows all the context but will never push it bc it’s against what he likes

[@jamesdo3086]

I mean if we go by the logic of his own show, why would he talk about the 12 teams that he thinks should be in the playoff right now? There's a lot of football that's left to be played. A lot is going to look different by the time the 12 teams need to actually be chosen. He drives home every show that November is the longest month, there's no reason for him to rank teams to put in right now when the picture might going to look completely different in a week, let alone in a month.

[@frankschaefer8890]

I think Josh's rankings would look something like: 1 Oregon 2 Ohio State 3 Tennessee 4 Ole Miss 5 Alabama 6 Georgia 7 Texas 8 Indiana 9 Notre Dame 10 Penn State 11 BYU 12 SMU 13 South Carolina 14 Miami 15 Texas A&M 16 LSU 17 Boise State 18 Kansas State 19 Colorado 20 Army 21 Clemson 22 Missouri 23 Iowa State 24 Washington State 25 Vanderbilt

[@Worldsportstalk24]

I don't understand the comment that the committee is saying you need to forget about the NIU loss. ND being ranked 8 instead of 2 is showing you that that loss did matter. But the committee is also saying that ND has shown enough since then to warrant inclusion provided they don't lose again. I think that that is all quite reasonable

[@user-tz2zz5ij1s]

If you are going to have a bad loss, make sure it’s early in the season.

[@pleasenobotsjd1744]

A loss to niu and beating A&M and Louisville should not have nd above bama who lost to vandy and Tennessee but has beaten Georgia, Missouri, and lsu. Argue with a wall but nd would be 5-4 with the bama schedule

[@Worldsportstalk24]

@ sure buddy, whatever you say

[@user-tz2zz5ij1s]

@@Worldsportstalk24that’s always been the thing since AP, BCS, CFP. Am early loss for whatever reason is better than a late loss. If you don’t understand that, you must be a casual.

[@Worldsportstalk24]

@ yes I’m aware of that fact. My point is that the committee has addressed the fact that Notre Dame lost to NIU, so im not sure why Josh is questioning the ranking

[@matthewmolnar8]

Jessie fighting thirteen year olds and taking management hostage with a good ole lay down move...... I bet he is a hell of a wingman for bar night

[@meditatingmunky3824]

Oregon's bye week is placed as if they were expecting a late season run. Get through the meat of your schedule and you got yourself to the Final stretch. Keep the team focused into the championship game and off season and you are riding a golf cart to your first natty. - A Clemson fan. Not rooting for Oregon, but picking them to win it.

[@danielbrown7740]

I've had this Wisconsin game circled more than any other game excluding OSU. Tough spot for the Ducks here in a wild night environment, but now that Josh pointed it out the Ducks should win. But we can afford one loss, the worst phrase in this new era but we can

[@frankschaefer8890]

Even in the old era where you sit you probably could afford one loss with this seasons direction

[@gameshowe7975]

You are right Josh! Unexpected IU put a beat down on some big 10 teams that were supposed to be good that it affected their next few games. shocked them

[@drewsimon7007]

Josh pate has unlocked a new fear for me.. Are we about to lose these premier matchups in the near future? 😢

[@manvswoodbeam]

There was already major disincentive to scheduling these when things were basically 1 and done for the vast majority of teams. I don't know how you can argue that it's gotten worse.

[@mattmolzan3992]

Even if there are less out of conference premiere games , the big ten and sec expanding creates way more premiere games in conference every year

[@browneyedgirlgb]

Vegas has underrated BYU nearly every week this season. They seem to be an outlier when it comes to Vegas odds. Don't get me wrong, this game against Kansas makes me nervous. However, I honestly believe BYU's close wins have only served to prove that they are mentally tough and can win in high pressure situations when the odds are stacked firmly against them. I'm not sure how many other teams would have won those games in that position.

[@ajsullyND]

For the record, in the period that Marcus Freeman has been on staff, ND is 144-7 on Senior day

[@GKahn]

Sully, Marcus is a great guy, someone you want as a friend. Unfortunately, their schedule is loaded with cupcakes and they've yet to scale the heights and win the big ones. They might at some point, but for now....ND doesn't seem to be a threat to any SEC team.

[@segan24]

@@GKahn except for the fact that they beat Texas A&M week 1 on the road before they even found their identity lol do you even pay attention?

[@mikedavis5288]

@@GKahnthey literally beat a+m this year💀 Also, multiple sec teams have lost to the worst sec team so I don’t wanna hear it

[@jamesdo3086]

@@GKahnright, a schedule that in the past 3 years has had cupcakes like Clemson, Ohio State, Texas A&M, and USC. Those are some real soft teams right there

[@lawrencematthes8948]

Don't worry about the cube ghosting us. I ghost the last segment on Thursdays already 😂

[@frankschaefer8890]

I love the wrestling mentions tonight Josh!

[@JOHNP2040]

Thanks for calling out the committee!! Hopefully they hear your segment and look in the mirror.

[@GoatedAtNFS]

statistical leaders going into week 12: Blocked Kicks: UNLV Blocked Punts: UNLV Completion %: Oregon Defensive TDs: Tulane Fewest Penalties: Iowa Kickoff Returns: Oregon Least # sacks allowed: Army Least interceptions: Army Passing Offense: Miami Passing Defense: Texas Punt Returns: UAB RedZone Offense: Troy RedZone Defense: Army Rushing Offense: Army Rushing Defense: Indiana Time of Possession: Oregon State Total Offense: Miami Total Defense: Ohio State

[@lawrencematthes8948]

My unbiased opinion is the top 12 teams would include Notre Dame, 4 Big ten, and 7 SEC teams. But that won't happen

[@4thandGoalBusby]

Josh are you going to be speaking at Georgia tomorrow? I know you've done that at some other campi (plural of campus) but I haven't heard if you'll be doing that at UGA.

[@meetmichaelprince]

Regarding CO- I would add two points. First, they’re in the B12 now instead of the B1G. They just don’t get the same media attention by default. And lastly, there was so much over-hype last year that I think there’s just some fatigue. I think people were maybe just tired of having them shoved down their throat.

[@thpeacemaker]

I've also been wondering that Colorado thing but more specifically about their fans than headlines. Last year they had a hoard of fanboys come out of nowhere to hype them up when they were still bad, but I haven't really seen any of those people this year

[@user-tz2zz5ij1s]

Indiana fun fact, they’ve only played 1 team above .500

[@TheWaterbouy88]

Cubelic is at a Diddy party, Auburn style.

[@DTSam11]

Chilllll don’t put that slander on Cube 😂😂😂😂😂

[@jacksonhollingsworth974]

“In front of one of managements Teslas.”😂😂😂😂😂

[@bigaggie7234]

Nick Nash & Patty Bash - You’re new tag team champions.

[@alanburns8616]

Speak with your chest when you say god bless. ❤️

[@DannyCollinsRTR]

The SOS argument is wrong. The hypothetical is taken to the extreme, but in the case of two 12-0 teams, the team with the harder SOS is the team who played the most difficult teams to get to 12-0. This is the only time when SOR can be correctly applied. The best metric would be to effectively give every team, everyone else's schedule to determine who has the most difficult SOS. This will account for all scheduling dynamics as well. Saying that Alabama has had the most difficult schedule, although not individually harder than UGA, to get to the playoff is absolutely fair when taking into account Bama played JP #6 UGA, at Vandy, #11 SCar, at #9 Tennessee and Mizzou in a 5 week stretch. SOS also needs to be calibrated to what you are arguing for. If it is playoff caliber, it should not matter if you played the 60th best team or the 130th best team, you should beat them both handily. Which is why ranked wins actually matters in regards to the playoff.

[@lionellambert9456]

Josh is it strength of schedule or team logos, i.e., Ohio State

[@HughSerious69]

Take Miami as example, we were supposed to have a good Florida and top 10 FSU on our schedule, sometime teams you have on your schedule that are ranked or close to it don’t turn out to be good. How can you penalize someone for their preseason ranked opponent not living to their Potential

[@King_Cosmic865]

I said their was some Big10 bias the second the new rankings came out 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻

[@jefferylorsung8846]

Before the season I had the Oregon/Wisconsin game circled as an upset. Now I think if Oregon runs the ball and doesn't turn it over they win by 3 scores.

[@NathanielRhodes-u9b]

Cream soda is the worst flavor. Cherry cola is the goat.

[@georgeherring7370]

Some of the rankings are questionable.

[@meditatingmunky3824]

Wish 1 - my family and friends live happily from here on out. Wish 2 - Josh Pate sends me a challis. Wish 3 - I'll just pass this on to someone else who needs it more.

[@ScoDucks24]

If ASU can knock off K-State this weekend, lookout for Sparky. Skattebo is the most underrated back in college football and Sam Leavitt true freshman QB has been playing lights out. Devils could be in Dallas for the big 12 title game

[@txsportsfreak02]

So josh the problem with the committee rankings is that they copied the ap rankings. The ap rankings are only based on win loss. That's why the ap is a joke. People should have come out last week blasting the committee for copying the top 13 teams as the ap. This week the only significant difference between the 2 is Miami. So until the committee decides to do thier job. We are going to have a problem.

[@Agelessgames]

We need some accurate fan predictions now

[@justindenney]

Mick Foley through the cage was just as crazy

[@JimDeaned]

if you don’t reward playing a tough schedule, then you’re just incentivizing the big 10 and ACC to make sure the 3-4 good teams in the conference don’t all play each other in the same season. sets a terrible precedent for the sport. it would also impact media revenue in the long run. the playoff can boost regular season viewership but big game matchups do most of the work on cpms, so they’ll wind up killing the value they’re hoping to drive under the new model

[@scottyclayton2501]

So with his fight with Jesse analogy should Georgia Tech be rewarded for their FSU win as if they are a top ten team right now

[@lawrencematthes8948]

I was against the expanded playoffs just as Josh. Imagine if we still had the 4 team playoff? A lot of people would be disappointed this year. Also imagine if the big ten took the SEC approach and play a 7 game conference schedule. Ohio St would have eliminated Oregon. Or Penn St. The SEC would be going nuts. In my opinion, Oregon, Ole Miss, Ohio St and Texas are the 4 best teams at this moment so I've changed my opinion on expanded playoffs

[@meditatingmunky3824]

Pates a cream soda guy. It's because the cream always rises to the top.

[@reecedenning3483]

Am i tripping or is A&M literally the only team in the SEC that scheduled a good non con opponent? I dont understand what Josh is going on about teams getting punished for scheduling hard games. Bama, Georgia, Ole Miss, and Tennessee didnt schedule anything out of conference lol

[@ImChazo]

Texas scheduled Michigan, Georgia opened against Clemson, and Lsu played USC. They might not be very good now but they were all top 20 opponents to start the season. Clemson still is a top 20 team.

[@ImChazo]

I agree with you when comparing across the sec, but I think the main point really comes when comparing to teams like Penn State and Ohio State who didn’t schedule any tough out of conference games.

[@reecedenning3483]

@ImChazo yeah well Texas and Georgia didn't get punished since they won so what is Josh talking about? And LSU lost to a bad USC team because LSU is mid, they're not just getting punished

[@dennisnicholson4305]

All those SEC teams play each other. Elimination games, none of that in the big twelve or a c c

[@GoatedAtNFS]

georgia had slammed a ranked clemson team. tennessee had nc state for the 3rd year TN/VA challenge. ole miss had wake forest. alabama scheduled @ wisconsin and everyone said they aren’t ready for it. they all did schedule a P5 opponent, so i don’t know what YOU are talking about either sir. but all next year alabama plays @ fsu & vs wisconsin texas plays @ ohio state lsu plays neutral vs clemson texas a&m is @ south bend auburn is @ baylor arkansas is @ memphis AND vs notre dame missouri vs kansas for the border rivalry south carolina neutral vs virginia tech oklahoma plays vs michigan tennessee plays neutral vs syracuse mississippi state at home vs arizona state florida plays @ miami vanderbilt is @ virginia tech the only teams that don’t schedule a P5 next year is georgia and kentucky. that’s it.

[@benstorms8303]

People bring up that the SEC is punished for scheduling good OOC games, but what games have they played and then been punished for losing? The only team I see who’s being “punished” is LSU, but it turns out that USC is just ok and LSU got pumped by Bama and TAMU anyways. Every other OOC game that the SEC has played has been a “quality win” or “quality loss”. Is the committee really “punishing” you anymore than another team when you lose to Arkansas or Vanderbilt or Kentucky? Spare me

[@jamesdo3086]

He literally said it- A&M is being punished for their loss to ND because the committee only sees the number in the loss column before anything else

[@heathburlison3016]

It’s funny how everyone will talk about SOS but then talk about how “good” Colorado is lmao. They will get absolutely blasted IF they make the playoffs. Kinda like ole Nebraska did.

[@blakeabel4721]

I hate how the committee values a "good loss" over a good win. No reason at all PSU should be ranked high. Do they even have a win over a bowl eligbile team?

[@KingE34]

Blue blood bias.

[@user-tz2zz5ij1s]

Penn State is the beneficiary of the ultimate bias award. The should barely crack the top 10. No way they should be in a position to host a playoff game. It’s almost as laughable as Indiana having only played 1 team above .500.

[@jacecall8994]

Had to stop listening when Josh was talking about "why not just load up your schedule with cream puffs? Committee isn't rewarding tough schedules". You can't just schedule a tough team and run to the committee like "I know I lost but look who I lost to!".

[@JoshPateCFB]

Are you going to offer anything to refute my point?

[@jamesdo3086]

Alabama last year was literally the DEFINITION of running to the committee and saying that, they had Saban fully petitioning on every talk show they could get him on

[@elforrest4758]

Put your money on Virginia, see what happens.

[@currinsnipes9879]

Last year FSU went 13 - 0 but got left out of the playoffs. What's with the committee flip-flopping this year?

[@DTraiN5795]

Context

[@CrazeeAdam]

Poor Jessie catching strays xD

[@kevinwang1104]

Josh, you actually pronounced Bellefontaine incorrectly. It’s actually Bell-Fountain

[@lucashawks2160]

How is there "no reward" for ND playing Texas A&M? If not for that game ND isn't in the playoff discussion at all right now.

[@rileyh4169]

Because we hate A&M 😊

[@jamesdo3086]

Because if ND scheduled a cupcake there and went 11-1 they'd likely be in the playoff anyways, but if they'd scheduled A&M and lost they'd be 10-2 and out for sure.

[@duckydewer]

Josh, once again. THEIRS "NO" O in Na-vad-a. I don't matter where you are from...

[@harpercoffey4084]

For future reference Josh, pronounce it bell-fountain

[@RustyRagesRegularly]

If Oregon does get upset by Wisconsin (I don’t see it happening but again what if) and Ohio State wins out, Penn State wins out (Only loss to Ohio State), Indiana’s only loss is to Ohio State. Oregon, Ohio State, Indiana & Penn State all finish at 8-1 in Conference play…. Who goes to the Big Ten Championship game (I would think Ohio State for sure yeah?) so who goes of the three between Oregon, IU and PSU?

[@beausantus5663]

Lord, the SEC crying on this show is nauseating!! If you switched A&M and Indiana's resumes, you wouldn't be crying for Indiana getting shafted I fricking promise!!!

[@bucks33331]

Pate is 1000% right on big ten bias

[@GavinSchmavin44]

What is the "Ramen Noodle Express?"

[@rileyh4169]

His sports betting picks. And remember, gambling will have you eating "Ramen Noodles."

[@duckydewer]

ZERO on the "Concert Meter," BIG FAT ZERO (0)!!!

[@SeanathanCory]

At some point, Josh is just going to give up trying to explain the JP Pole and just let those who don’t/can’t understand it just suffer and die

[@thelifeofdustinandallison]

Go Dawgs! Sic Em!

[@ryankeenan8051]

I’m gonna not be able to watch college football this weekend due to deer season next two weekend

[@meditatingmunky3824]

Clemson plays... Auburn instead of UGA, they win. Season unfolds the same, they are a 10 seed, not playing in the ACCCG, just an at large. (Assumimg they win out). But hey, as a Clemson fan, I'd rather play UGA and not go if we don't deserve it. Can't wait until we are out the ACC and we can earn a seed as a 2 loss team.

[@DTraiN5795]

33:27 it’s bc drama sells simple. Rules of sells is drama and sex sell like no other things in this world. Anything to do with them will draw heavy attention

[@Thaleck]

PSU's best win is losing to Ohio St. by 7.

[@Dark-Poett]

Here we go again with Mr SEC bias who doesn't understand that any given Saturday anyone can win. Vandy vs Alabama ring a bell?

[@chriswaddelljr1768]

Number 1000 👍

[@samuraiguy777]

Colorado lost their celebrity sidelines by winning. 😆

[@benelliott1011]

Everybody keeps saying Indiana has a shit SOS. Well if you look right there at his own graphic you’ll see it’s actually in tune with just about all of the other top 12 teams. Stay sleeping on the Hoosiers lmao

[@meditatingmunky3824]

Name a Colorado player other than Shadur Sanders or Travis Hunter.

[@KornPop96]

That other Sanders boy. 😂

[@davidlamb12345]

Pate completely overlooks the fact that TAMU was the one who stole LSU's soul so that Alabama could kick their ass. he hates us. If you ain't in our jersey...

[@KornPop96]

Nobody hates Texas A&M. Nobody thinks about them at all.

[@reecedenning3483]

Also Josh nobody is claiming the committee has SEC bias, they're saying influential people like YOU have SEC bias. Georgia had a worse SOS at 9-0 last year than Indiana does right now. Yet you claim indiana isnt making the playoff specifically because SOS

[@Alex-qw7sy]

My uncle literally claims they are big 10 and sec bias. And its true. Tons of people claim that homie. And Michigan had the worst SOS out of all the playoff teams last year it was laughable and also had the signs scandal. None if that was going to stop the committee and you have big 10 people on the committee so...

[@DTraiN5795]

Y’all both are missing a ton of context and need to start seeing why overall majority of people in the world who know about college football think this way

[@Alex-qw7sy]

@@DTraiN5795 you didn't even clarify what the hell you are talking about. Sorry im missing context from the point you are trying to make but thats not the point

[@Devyn-cs1tx]

Did Georgia make the playoff last year??

[@KornPop96]

People talk about the SEC because retention drops off when talking about other conferences. The SEC has the largest fanbase followed by the B1G. There is no bias; the SEC is clearly the best and most loved conference in CFB with the B1G coming in a close second. Analytics don't lie.

[@lossless4129]

lol bro you are really blowing the smoke this week…. These points about SEC are all out of sorts, it’s clear that you’re appealing to the larger sector of your viewership. I’d just say, careful because this type of pandering is what takes the good ones haha

[@DTraiN5795]

Who was Aggies other lose tho and by how much. There’s more context needed like always and they barely beat a bowling green team. Cmon do better. They lost by 24 to South Carolina. Yeah just bc me n you know South Carolina is better than their record doesn’t mean others do overall. I think we both agree 7-2 Missouri is in decent shape they’re not a very good team just like the teams in some of the teams in the ACC and Big 12. The bias is there bc the result have brought us to think the way we all think. Team also change as the season goes along so context of that matters. People are crazy all around bc there’s 6 very good teams who could probably play with anyone at some point in the SEC and 10-12 competitive teams. It’s easily the deepest conference now. People who can’t see this are actually being bias and don’t like it. Big 10 doesn’t even come close to that and the other conferences are even worse.

[@user-tz2zz5ij1s]

The ranked B1G teams have played a combined 6 ranked opponents so far this season. They have 1 ranked game between them this season left. Indiana has played 1 team above .500 this season. The top 4 ranked SEC teams have competed in 13 ranked vs ranked games. They have a combined 3 left. The B1G with 18 teams have 6 teams above .500 in conference play. The SEC has 9 teams above 500 in conference play. The B1G is by far softer and getting more bias.

[@blakehouse172]

Pate why do you hate Indiana?

[@Muletom]

Cmon dodo, look at the competition year to year. They played inferior competition this year.

[@CoastalBendFishNinja]

I LOSE MORE RESPECT FOR YOU DAILY JOSH…THAT SUCKS 🥴🤷🏼‍♂️

[@blakeabel4721]

Shows better without cubelic. Id watch his show if i wanted to see him

[@Muletom]

Can’t watch this crap any longer.

[@MAGA24-UF]

Go gators 🐊

[@deloachapproach4273]

Go where? Happy you kept Billy. That being said, if you give him the chance, he might very well prove worth keeping. He has done very well considering the schedule you had this year, and this is coming from a UGA alumnus.

[@snowstorm5867]

Geaux tiguhs

[@XCruzzerX89]

As a LSU fan officially worried about this game now that Lagway is playing

[@snowstorm5867]

@XCruzzerX89 were cooked

[@brow7809]

You are saying Arkansas is a good win. Are you talking about the Arkansas that lost to Oklahoma state? Please help me understand this because you said we should play the games….. then you said that. Cognitive disidentes (brought to you by drugs). 😂😂

[@monicabraunschweiger.3404]

learn to spell....."dissident"

[@cadeezra315]

Ole Miss lost to 3-6 Kentucky. 6 teams have proven on the field that they're better than Ole Miss just based off that. Want to play in the playoffs? Don't lose to bad teams.

[@tarzn_worx]

It wasn't "on the field" and it doesn't work that way..... South Carolina beat Kentucky 31-6 UGA beat Kentucky by 1 pt. Ole Miss beat S. Carolina 27-3. Ole Miss beat UGA 28-10 Therefore, Ole Miss is still better than Kentucky because they beat 2 of the 6 teams that beat Kentucky. Ole Miss had a bad day against Kentucky for sure. But it's more about matchups in football, how the teams matchup.

[@KingE34]

You think ole miss won’t make the playoffs if they win out?

[@cadeezra315]

@@KingE34 Ole Miss will very likely make the playoffs, but a third loss to Florida would knock them out.

[@cadeezra315]

@@tarzn_worx How can you be sure they're better than Kentucky when we saw them play and Kentucky beat Ole Miss? Using transitive wins does get silly I admit, but it's more about the fact that 6 teams found a way to beat Kentucky and Ole Miss didn't.