Week 12 Prediction Show | Noon Kickoff Controversy | SEC Bias In Rankings | New JP Poll

[@DukePastrami670]

If I remember correctly someone had a bold prediction as follows. A team new to their conference will win the Big 10, SEC, ACC and Big 12. As it stands right now Oregon, Texas, SMU and Colorado are all well positioned to do that. No matter how it ends up that dude deserves a complete set of Chalii.

[@zacharyrogers1071]

Too soon. Let them win something before we crown them. Texas, Colorado, and SMU are having good seasons but what is their best wins?

[@lilbuck334]

@@zacharyrogers1071he said their conference not the Natty all three of them are in line to go to there conference championship all he is saying is how Josh sounds like he was on the right track

[@christopherbrock8913]

🥱🥱 Bama is about to sneak into Atlanta (an you know the rest)

[@zacharyrogers1071]

@@lilbuck334 all I'm saying is that they haven't won anything. Indiana and Vanderbilt have had better seasons than everyone he named.

[@NFace23]

Not sure it deserves any chalii if it doesn't end up correct. But I hope it would if it does.

[@AdaltheRighteous]

Josh people disagree and criticize you in the comments over stupid stuff, but I want to tell you I think you’re a great guy. In a world driven by sports betting, I appreciate that you constantly push people to be wise with their decisions. I’m constantly glad I tune in.

[@nickb7089]

Josh, can we do a blind resume segment? I would love to do that as an exercise. Show me how Illinois stacks up to Missouri or Ole Miss to Penn St,

[@patrickthomas6891]

Second this

[@givemeabreakdoc]

@@patrickthomas6891uh, ole miss beat UGA by double digits. Who’s PSU beat?

[@tylerdurden6269]

This is easy, both B1G teams you listed have won conference titles. Missouri never has in 40+ years, in SEC, BIG12 or BIG8. Ole Miss hase never won a conference title in over 40+ years. Missouri and Ole Miss have never won anything, as to where Penn State & Illinois have in the past 40+ years. Most SEC teams are just good on paper.

[@matt-parkss]

@@tylerdurden6269what you say is true but irrelevant. Resume has nothing to do with history it’s about this season

[@Will-pp9kc]

@@tylerdurden6269 The Blind resume is about getting into the playoffs. If a 40+ year history of a team determined who got into the playoffs like your post states( i am assuming you listen to the whole show before making a comment about the show) a lot of good teams this year would not make the playoffs.

[@hayden_walton]

I LEGIT LOVE STRUCTURAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OUR SPORT TO IMPROVE IT.

[@tremoore9831]

The problem is that most of the structure centers around contracts and money. Those who play 9 conference games get more money to play the extra game. Telling someone, "you should too" isn't that simple. Telling FOX to allow THEIR PrimeTime games to be broadcast outside of their PrimeTime widow on other networks after they paid the big bucks already isn't that simple. Discussions breakdown when money is attached. Telling for profit businesses to do things that'll hurt their profit is a pipedream. An example is CBS's relationship with the SEC. When CBS wasn't contractually obligated to pay more when A&M & Missouri joined the conference. The SEC requested that CBS pay the average split per SEC to include the 2 new teams. They refused. The SEC's no longer in business with CBS.

[@SurferRC]

Get rid of the committee for starters!

[@adamfuller5640]

@@SurferRCno, we need to get rid of conferences. Especially superconferences.

[@camintheclutchcamintheclut6743]

Been a fan for years of the show, just giving credit where credit is due. This is the best CFB show!!

[@dempseybirminghamfilm]

Anyone think it’s kinda hilarious that the FSU conference discussion just evaporated

[@tremoore9831]

I don't know about hilarious, but the B1G really needs them to help with their viewership and depth.

[@ThatFalloutGod]

Everything about FSU this year has been glorious Karma.

[@captainspartan04]

@@tremoore9831really hoping big ten gets Florida st and Miami . Would want Clemson, Duke, North Carolina, and Virginia to sec

[@tremoore9831]

@@captainspartan04 I didn't want to expand further for the longest time. I'm slowly wrapping my head around it. I guess it all depends on what the SEC hopes to adds. What that is exactly is anyone guess.

[@captainspartan04]

@@tremoore9831 I agree. Never wanted it but with pac 12 dead even tho they currently rebranding with the MWC schools. And the big 12 just is a bunch of schools clogged together. Even tho they’re loaded in basketball schools. And it feels like no matter what we do in the acc we’re always gonna be laughed at because we only have 2 state schools. So at this point I’m just ready to go to the end for “the collapse of the acc”. We’re already 95% there it’s just waiting for someone to pull the right jenga out and it’ll fall over. Just please put some rivalries back together

[@Will1117-4R]

South Carolina being at 11 in the JP Poll brought tears to my eyes, never thought I’d see this day

[@haroldplemmons9479]

Too bad yall can't put that in the trophy case.

[@collinevans5151]

@@haroldplemmons9479if lack of trophy’s keeps me from being a scumbag like you I’m fine with that.

[@joshshipley6354]

@@haroldplemmons9479didn’t have to do that man like that. Criminal

[@andrewivester3636]

​@haroldplemmons9479 we could put alot of other conferences championship trophies 🏆 in our trophy case this year,you can't deny that

[@StormBuckeyeFootball]

@@haroldplemmons9479unnecessary 😂

[@GAMarine137]

Started drinking Zevia 2 wks ago, and I actually like it. Worth trying.

[@WavesDeep]

I started the week before I saw Pate with it. Love it

[@tremoore9831]

I'll try it out now that I heard REAL people talk about it. I don't trust people when they could have been paid for their review.

[@Agelessgames]

Tbh I like big noon games because it gives me something to watch but it’s also terrible how some of these matchups aren’t prime time

[@zplapplap]

Agreed. This precisely states how I feel about it.

[@jackdillree6687]

Josh, I like your JP Poll but I would like you to compare the AP to the JP poll for the seasons win and losses and which one has come out on top. It would make a good segment for your show.

[@kevinbond8966]

If we all band together and boycott Big Noon Kickoff it will go away by next year at this time.

[@GeorgeT53]

It seems like JP is afraid to mention the SEC without a long disclaimer about how he is not biased towards the SEC. Anyone who follows college football cannot, within reason, claim the SEC is not the strongest conference. The disclaimers can stop.

[@BetWithLB]

Fair. But when the end point is typically "this 2 loss team is better than this 0 loss team" its a lose lose. And seeing as most SEC's strength is circular (as is the nature of this great sport) then the disclaimers are needed. There are too many teams and too few games (and we love it this way lets be clear) so there will never be a clear answer.

[@michaelbee2165]

​@@BetWithLBComment of the Day. 🏆 Congratulations

[@Gerg-Far]

​@@BetWithLB👏 👏 👏 👏

[@adamfuller5640]

The fact that they are clearly the strongest conference IS the problem. We should either eliminate the postseason and a pretense of a “national championship”, which implies everyone gets a fair shot (which couldn’t be farther from the truth). Or we eliminate conferences that only look after their own interests. I’d prefer to keep conferences, but reduce them to a maximum of 10 teams each, and remove the postseason entirely. If the regular season alone isn’t good enough for someone, then that person isn’t good enough for college football.

[@JPer811]

Nah

[@extremeuzer3]

As someone who lives in Dubai and is a die hard CFB fan, I freaking love the 12pm kickoffs because I get to watch the games live. But watching the highlights of night games also does remind why CFB is the best sport in the world

[@BKbucknut93]

How do we get rid of SEC bias? Simple. Eliminate the preseason AP Poll. Polls should come out in like week 7, or start of November, when there is a body of work to evaluate. Preseason polls hold a disproportionate amount of influence on how perceptions are formed throughout the season. SEC fans never seem to bring this point up either. I’m not going to deny that the SEC has been a deeper league for years. Just look at the recruiting rankings and draft picks. But let’s be honest, Missouri has no business sniffing the Top 25.

[@kevinbond8966]

The only poll that matters doesn't start until after Halloween.

[@BKbucknut93]

@@kevinbond8966 you’re still completely side stepping issue though. The preseason poll absolutely influences national perception, AND it influences the CFP committee.

[@thpeacemaker]

Missouri dropped out of the rankings then made their way back in. I'm not sure you can blame preseason rankings for that. The preseason rankings skew the rankings for like the first half of the season but by this point in the year I don't think they play much of a role

[@BKbucknut93]

@@thpeacemaker what other two loss team has lost by a combined deficit of 65 points? (Hint - none) And who’s their best win? A “ranked” 5-4 Boston College? Get real.

[@kristopherhansen8768]

I’ve been saying for years that the preseason AP is just the groundwork for artificial SoS boosting/resume boosting. and it’s always been sec leaning/biased. They rank half the conference pre season so that they can have an argument ready for any scenario.

[@rudesciencedude4439]

It's not SEC bias, it's big name bias. If Ohio State had IUs record, against the schedule IU played, they would be ranked #1 or #2 Edit: if IU was named OSU, with their record and schedule they would be #1 or #2

[@zplapplap]

It’s both.

[@user-tz2zz5ij1s]

They are ranked 2 in the CFP. I see the B1G receiving the most bias. SOS should matter at some point but right now it doesn’t seem to carry much water.

[@zplapplap]

@@user-tz2zz5ij1s SOS should not be weighted any more than SOR, IMO.

[@tremoore9831]

I don't think is tied to big names, but rather recruiting. Just so happens that the big names recruit the best, or they became big names because of how they recruited. Clemson had it at one point too. Oregon has it until they lose and drop themselves out in the past.

[@ApexofWar_]

Ohio State position in the JP Poll is basically a thermometer of their O line. We know pretty well what that team is with the exception of the O line (happens when you lose two OTs to injury). When they perform well, they are the best team. When they under perform relative to the rest of the team, they're 3-ish. They've strung together back to back good games. JP Poll rewarded it.

[@KornPop96]

I go to sleep at 9 every night so I don't really like night games, and my Vols have been playing night games almost every week. Give us a three thirty game ffs! Some of us have to get up early!

[@robbiesoulier1922]

Tennessee has had every home game be at night except for bama, and to be honest I won't complain AT ALL. Night games all day, huge advantage.

[@michaelfogle1695]

A history lesson, all CFB started at 12:30 PM until TV got involved. To argue that it's bad to play at that time is ridiculous.

[@canaannevin8494]

Was it 92° in November back then, in like 1955? Also, what was the atmosphere at the stadiums like? Always wanted to ask someone who was there.

[@carterschell3792]

A lot of respect for you and Fan Duel for the responsibility segment

[@4for4slide]

Thank you for ranking Arizona state

[@nopeacejustwar1664]

I absolutely love noon kickoffs

[@ragegamer5746]

Liking and commenting because Minnesota was mentioned

[@TennesseeSean]

Noon kickoffs are good for the players. They don't have to wait around all day to take the field. 7pm kickoffs are great for fans and for television, ratings and advertising. But the players come out tighter, more anxious.

[@ThBlkIbs1925]

Love noon kickoff, roll out of bed and into a great football game. 😊

[@ckbama17]

I hate to say it but it’s time for conference championship games to go away. Why play the extra game? It’s all about the playoff now🤷🏻‍♂️.

[@SurferRC]

If it was an 8 team format the regular season and conference champ games would still mean everything…

[@paulcampbell8696]

I was wondering if some team like Oregon, if they knew that a win in a conference championship game wouldn't change a thing for their playoff alignment, might play the game with backups and use it as preparation, rather than fighting for a win.

[@Nyla009]

This might eliminate bama this year, say they lose to Texas in sec championship which very well could happen

[@ckbama17]

@ I agree. As a Bama fan I’d rather look good these last 3 weeks then take another week off prepping/resting for the playoff. Let A&M, Tennessee, UGA, Texas, LSU, Ole Miss go fight it out 🤣.. an SEC Champ Game loss for Bama does more harm than benefits of a win. Take the rest.

[@toddellis9994]

It's still 90 degrees in Baton Rouge. The UCLA game was a noon kickoff. They were literally carrying fans out of the stadium on gurney's. It's irresponsible to kickoff in the heat of the day, in the Gulf South area.

[@Neskus]

I’m pretty sure Texas hasn’t scheduled any fcs teams this year too

[@sekimotorm]

I believe they’ve only ever played two FCS schools and the last one was in 2006.

[@billeffingmurray1224]

​@sekimotorm true...but they opened up with Rice last season...that might as well be FCS

[@colinhoover5153]

They also have only played 1 opponent that's currently ranked in the top 25. And they lost that game... badly

[@theJukeboxHero40]

My issue with the SEC is the circular logic. Every year SEC teams are ranked too high or should not be ranked at all. They are beaten by other SEC teams who get to claim a "ranked" win. If an SEC team loses to another SEC team it's a "quality loss". It's just bogus. Last show you said five 7-2 SEC teams would go to the playoff becuase they beat each other. That doesn't mean they are all playoff worthy. Yes, Josh. I, a subscriber since 2019, think you, a rural Georgia guy who works for CBS, has SEC bias.

[@1337slic3]

Everyone always says crap like this and then crickets at the end of the season when the SEC walks the competition in bowl games and in the playoffs/natty. If you want them to stop being overrated, maybe try beating them sometime.

[@SurferRC]

@@1337slic3😂🤡

[@patrickthomas6891]

Then what? Should other teams be arbitrarily placed higher than some SEC teams due to the fact that their not SEC and "even" out the conferences? Should we not rank teams and then rank until mid of the season? If so how are we to determine the rankings then? Becasue if it is purely win loss based in a vacuum then all conferences G5, P4 doesn't matter would have similar records inside the conference due to the conf. teams obviously playing each other. So then we assume all SEC teams of same record are ranked just as high as Big12 or ACC for example of similar records. Yet we know that may not be true and some teams played better opponents like you cannot tell me that a win over Ohio State is not significantly more impressive than Miami despite similar record and both being top of their conference. I think its BS to play more talented rosters in the SEC every year and then not get in because my team had to play said insane roster some 6 times in the SEC getting 2 losses knowing that if I were to be in a different conference the outcome would likely be only 1 or no losses.

[@jordanneal8979]

@@1337slic3 By walk the competition, do you mean SEC teams going 5-4 in bowl games like they did last year? Or maybe you meant going 7-5 like they did they year before? If not either of those years, then perhaps you were referencing them going 6-8 like they did in 21-22 season? Please elaborate because I'm confused.

[@adamfuller5640]

@@jordanneal8979lol called him out haha

[@ashtoncarnes8847]

Will you be hosting a conference/meeting for the students of UGA?

[@darthjoo8896]

I’m not certain, but I think the cooperation between networks you described violates anti-trust laws. ESPN, as the non-participant, would have a good case that all the parties involved colluded to fix the TV market.

[@rich25375]

If 90% of our games are at noon, fine but at least for prime time can we please get a prime time slot. Josh is a man of the people and I would petition for this man to be CFB commissioner tomorrow if it could really happen

[@mitha1280]

Speaking of, I'm in Okinawa Japan and my husband and I have to wake up at 2am or 3am just to watch Ole Miss and we do it, because we have to. We have no choice. Real fans would understand that without complaint.

[@pjcroyle9010]

The teams at the mid to bottom of the Big10 have less wins than the mid to bottom SEC teams...BECAUSE THE TOP OF THE BIG10 AREN'T LOSING THEIR GAMES. If Indiana and Oregon lost a game, if PSU and OSU lost 2 games. That's 4 more wins to distribute, so Illinois is suddenly 7-2, Iowa 7-3, Wisconsin 6-3, Minnesota 7-3. Would that make you suddenly say OMG the Big 10 is legit? All you are doing is discrediting teams for winning the games on their schedules.

[@tammythreatt9326]

Good show and great points made…Go Dawgs! ❤🖤

[@bcholmes]

Grew up a VT fan (Big East then ACC), spent 8 years at NC State. Obviously a follower of the ACC, but I love football and yeah...the SEC is king. I have no problem with the SEC having numerous loss teams in the playoff so we can actually watch good football. NIL and portal have decimated other conferences, and until that's adjusted we will have SEC FOOTBALL...ocassionally a Big10 (really medium10), then their farm teams.

[@jeremywilson8247]

Watching from Little Rock Arkansas

[@calebsinger8029]

Josh we want an Academy in South Bend!!! Please!

[@realwickedbrew]

Tell me about Ohio State playing at noon 6 consecutive weeks and I will show you Ole Miss that hasn't played a conference noon kickoff on the road since 2017 and hasn't had a home conference game with a post-sunset kickoff since the Vanderbilt game last year. That road streak finally ends next week, but that is NUTS. Early kicks benefit the road team because the crowds aren't nearly as wild.

[@aroncampos5720]

The B1G really needs one of their teams to win the natty this year if they want to get rid of the SEC "bias".

[@SurferRC]

Or any league! But sadly they will stack the deck and put multiple acc/b12/g5 teams in the same bracket so only one can make it!

[@johngetz8585]

Like last year..??

[@jeffreyprice9790]

If we have back to back big10 only natties than that should effectively end that argument. College football has always been cyclical. The big10 despite the decade plus of dominance the sec had is still the leading conference when it comes to total national championships.

[@Conor_Doherty]

On the SEC bias conversation as well, lots of people will point to bowl games in years past where SEC teams have lost to Big-10, Pac-12 teams etc. When you don't play anybody and can afford to play your 3rd stringers by the end of the game, you can generally avoid big injuries. When you are playing Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, LSU and Ole Miss in a year, it is easy to see how players can be exhausted and injured by late in the season. Back to back big-time games make a big difference in the number of injuries and overall level of play from these teams. So have a healthy Illinois play a fully depleted Texas A&M and see who wins. It is a bit of a toss up at that point. But give South Carolina their schedule and they would also be 11-1 at the end of the season and with fewer injuries

[@adamfuller5640]

The problem is that we call it a “National championship” when the south is the only region where more than half the people care about it at all. The states of Alaska or New Hampshire are not equipped to produce or contend for a so called college football “National championship” to the same extent the states of Alabama or Georgia are. It gives unwarranted legitimacy to something that is supposedly rightfully earned, when it is not. On top of that, the best team doesn’t even win the National championship half of the time, which is why this whole Nick Saban-era national Championship or bust mindset ruined the sport. There shouldn’t even be a postseason. College football is about Saturdays in the fall, in-state rivalries, pageantry. The postseason turns it into NFL jr. without having the NFL draft or revenue distribution system to increase parity. The worst of both worlds.

[@MrDrewbartshire]

The current system is bias because the inputs that assign values like strength of schedule and quality wins/loses are many times based on preseason rankings setting the floor SUPER high for the SEC that means the rest of the teams are having to play catchup. The answer to the question about limiting SEC bias is to remove preseason rankings. 1. Wait until out-of-conference games are done to release rankings. 2. Force all conferences to play the same amount of conference games in a season. 3. Do not allow neutral site out-of-conference games.

[@MrDrewbartshire]

Preseason top 25 teams. (top 10) SEC: 9 (4) BIG10:6 (4) ACC: 4 (1) BIG12: 5 (0)

[@evanscales7724]

The bold prediction section has my crying 😂💀

[@zeusalmighty1312]

Not everyone is complaining about noon kickoff times. And subscribing to keep this show free is the dumbest thing you say every show. Thanks

[@frank7268]

Josh dunking on Danny will NEVER get old 😂

[@chrisdavis4945]

I haven't tuned into a 2nd half of Big noon kickoff since Texas vs Michigan

[@ThBlkIbs1925]

The idea that Alabama is top 5 in power rating is CRAZY.

[@karinanelson9472]

As an OSU fan now living in California, I’m so over the 9am games

[@WavesDeep]

I said Texas would have a top 5 defense. So far so good

[@marka6719]

Yes Josh. We love the whole show, but the last two segments were right on. All a 12 team playoff does is allow more SEC Teams in. Just what the casuals were whining about!!!! You called it way before they started this nonsense…….

[@jsouth2129]

Still, 4-12 SEC Teams in the playoffs > 2-4 SEC Teams in the playoffs

[@johnlee7085]

The Tennessee at Georgia lines (9.5) is crazy, especially when you consider KU (3-6) only opened at 3 on the road at 9-0 BYU.

[@bbertrand2318]

ESPN reports Nico is in concussion protocol but dressed and practiced today. How is that possible when ncaa rules states a player cannot dress or practice while in concussion protocol?

[@Kevinyaheard]

Precautionary only, to mess with Georgia.

[@Davidjacquat-wi7qz]

Is there a way to get vegas odds makers to put out a weekly ranking of college teams. That ranking would carry alot of weight

[@curtisoeser5133]

Josh, thank for for mentioning, correctly, the fueld position gufts Texas gave UGA through mistakes. If Texas could have limited those and flipped the field.......

[@jsouth2129]

The people who love noon kickoffs are the same people who stand there silently on 3rd downs

[@alexacevedo3008]

The only sec bias in the rankings is that Missouri shouldn't be ranked

[@armorandshields6434]

Man, there's teams in the SEC with 2 or 3 losses that would wipe the floor with other non-SEC teams that are undefeated or 1 loss.

[@JPer811]

How’s it taste?

[@Mark-b5q5u]

The new CFP playoffs is crap if you're not in the big 10 or SEC you're screwed

[@Nyla009]

Who do you suggest or what teams are getting screwed?

[@Mark-b5q5u]

@Nyla009 damn don't take a genius to figure it out you must pull for a big Ten or SEC School the media and the CFP going to put who they want In anyway no matter what happens college football is garbage

[@adamfuller5640]

@@Nyla009eliminate conferences. They only look after their own (who can blame them). But we’re turning into the NFL one way or another (I don’t like it but it’s already happened). So we should install measures to ensure parity so that the product as a whole is more entertaining and balanced. (Maybe stuff like the draft, equal revenue distribution across all teams, smaller divisions instead of large conferences, etc.)

[@willeodsson]

That's what Georgia went through every year. We got Gary Danielson on CBS 5 times a year and got robbed of home night games because of it.

[@justinminter]

Georgia in primetime constantly is an interesting take considering they haven't played a night time ranked opponent in years and didn't even have a night game for years lol but thankfully that changes this week 🙌

[@mateocruz8147]

Sun Devils in the JP Poll LFGGGGGGG

[@chacaabbaylee768]

For the first time since 2016, Tennessee and UGA meet and Tennessee has what looks to be the better D. Thats been UGAs heel so far. Better run run run.. both teams

[@CDBLK8008]

ACC has a winning record vs Big 12 & Big 10 .. SEC pays Josh well 👍🏽

[@adamfuller5640]

Big 12 better at the top tho which is why Big 12 leader beat ACC leader at home.

[@BIMBA7579-rr6gh]

I love noon games, there is no problem here. Plus MI and OSU have contract language that they can't play night games in November. I'm a Michigan Alum and I like that.

[@Waaterbottle]

How do you put more ad space? A branded white T shirt? Maybe you need to add some shelves to put branded items on.

[@patrickturner4581]

College playoff committee was forced to accept a group of Five champion as an automatic bid. This was done for equity, as per a anti trust suit being filed against the NCAA. If there is a perceived bias towards Notre Dame, ACC and Big 12 teams making the playoffs, again, the committee in time maybe forced to make changes. It's not just the execution on the field, where much of evaluation is subjective, then there is a political side of the equation. Notre Dame, ACC and Big 12 will be watching just as the Group of Five teams did in working out a plan for a automatic bid for its top champion.

[@jeffreyprice9790]

What's wrong with georgia is that they dont have any elite players in skill postions. Their roster is talented sure but they have bad wrs mid rbs and a qb that can't throw the ball and wrs that cant catch it. The defense isnt elite anymore.

[@Nyla009]

Funny you say that but the same team you just mentioned beat Texas in Austin

[@jeffreyprice9790]

@Nyla009 that was an outlier. They struggled with Kentucky struggled with Florida struggled with miss st got busted by ole miss... their offense is terrible. Their qb leads the country in picks. They're like 100th in rushing and bottom of the barrel in 3rd down offensively and defensively. Hang your hat on that texas win all you'd like. Won't make the offense any better 🤷🏾. They're a far cry from who they were a few years ago and it's not really even close.

[@SmokeyDaBear98]

As of 11/12 around 9 PM, Nico is in concussion protocol. Still has a chance to play but that chance is a lot smaller now.

[@DavidSisak-x2z]

Oregon at 2 is straight up disrespect.WE BEAT THEM!

[@johnlee7085]

ND would definitely get preference. The real question is if Army beats ND, would they get preference?

[@givemeabreakdoc]

“Daryl came with the heat, then burned himself.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@CrazeeAdam]

We actually saying Cal, the only team FSU has beat, who was last in the ACC for the majority of the year, and still is 3rd to last... Power wise, is a top 25 team? I know they got a couple wins recently... And challenged Miami... But come on? =/ that FSU loss has to tank them all year.... Especially if FSU just gets no other wins... Like they have

[@jasonsloan3926]

Brian Kelly will not sleep well the days leading up to Vanderbilt. Worst spot for LSU. Losing at home not an option right now. Does the team quit against Oklahoma the next week? If they do and lose? #1 QB coming in. But a freshman.

[@rjjumpman12]

I don’t think SEC bias exists but until Missouri is banished from the top 25 for the remainder of the year I understand where these folks are coming from.

[@N.J.D.M.S]

It's crazy to think that someone would be mad at THE JOEL KLATT for time slot exclusivity.

[@tremoore9831]

People love to complain about anything. Perfection, how most people view it doesn't exist. Perfection in reality, would be considered boring, because nothing special would happen.

[@Con27277]

Because he’s a Fox mouthpiece at this point

[@TonyM132]

I don't like it, but it is true that the SEC is very strong this year. Jeff Sagarin has 8 SEC teams in his unbiased (computer) top 25, Ken Massey has a whopping 10 in his unbiased top 25. Yeachhh...Hopefully next year that will not be the case.

[@Mr.Schneeebly]

Was that the first ever Pate State Paper Crumple?!

[@mdhj67]

Ole Miss doesn't have a single home night game this season. Not one. I think LSU had four.

[@frankschaefer8890]

Josh... Iowa is too high because if the QB situation...

[@Nyla009]

Looking at new playoff rankings, I believe your looking at 3/4th s of the teams that will make it. Oregon and Ohio st locks, Indiana barring disaster is a lock, PSU plays no one, lock, Notre Dame in and eliminates the army, either Boise or, Tulane, Miami only acc team, watch, Sec teams ole miss, Texas, Georgia, either Alabama or Tennessee, A&m will lose again, Not much drama imo

[@cadenmilller]

i think this is finally the game where we can get a idea of how good TU is this year unless arkansas plays like they did last week

[@victorrogersmusic]

Top 40 teams/brands in new league divided into 4 10 team divisions during season leading to division champs and a 16 team playoff for natty. Everybody else have their FBS or whatever league and play during the spring to not compete with super league. Win, win. Easy.

[@lisascherer527]

The BIG admin is accountable and need to negotiate better with Fox as it hurts the coaches and teams as recruits from south playing Friday night can’t get up to Noon kick off. The situation is untenable to have 6 noon games-too many

[@lisascherer527]

Wrote that before you made the point Josh! Thx for making it!

[@B0NER_P0LICE]

Here's my take on the SEC bias.. These teams are ranked at the beginning of the season and given a narrative based on the talent on their roster. Then, no matter what they do the rest of the way because so many of these rosters are rated so highly at the beginning of the year there is no floor that allows them to slip through the cracks. Just because Ohio State was deemed to have one of the historically highest rated talent rosters, they still managed to lose a game. I feel like it's an argument that has been made in the past, just because you have the best players doesn't mean that you have the best team. I feel like this should be widespread for all conferences, you should be allowed no more than three teams in the playoff from your conference. If you cannot win your own conference or even be in the top three you should not be allowed to qualify to win the national championship. I also think it's ridiculous because there's money involved for the teams that make it and for their conference. This should immediately put a cap on the amount of teams that are allowed per conference.

[@thundacracka77]

I got the Moon Lake reference.

[@williamwagner79]

Back in a day noon kick off was the big game. I'm not sure Josh is speaking for all of us, I kinda like the 12 o'clock kick off. I get to watch the big game in the B1G to kick off my college football weekend, and I can turn off the blowout SEC game at night if I need too and go to bed.

[@atlantisource]

The best game of the week was GT v Mia. Noon kick.

[@samrauch8334]

Model looking like the AP with the ND ranking

[@michaelbrandonhudson]

Nico will play

[@JakeSmith-hy6wd]

Yeah he’ll play volley ball

[@vsk__17]

Speaking of, why aren't the teams ranked blindly? Isn't that what they're supposed to do when rankings are so subjective?

[@amariparris7882]

Love noon kickoff but also tired of seeing Ohio State vs East West State College or sub par BIG10 team.

[@shawnclark6927]

It’s almost like having a gauntlet for a schedule isn’t ideal lol

[@JoshPateCFB]

Keep the show free - SUBSCRIBE to the channel! - JP

[@pkpabst]

Maybe the people who shout SEC bias should put more SEC teams on their out of conference schedule so we can all see on the field whether its bias of whether its truth...

[@tristen3garrett100]

You may have already but definitely try the vanilla cola and rootbeer!

[@Gopwarhorse]

In Winston Salem

[@Biffs_R_Us]

Nico is playing, not sure where chris fallica got that from cause pete thamel and all the Tennessee people say he practiced today in a limited fashion and that no definitive decision has been reached. Plus everything heupel has said so far makes it sound like this has all been precautionary and that he'll be starting on Saturday

[@Intragravity]

Why is California power rated #24 in the JP Poll they are 1-4 in ACC play

[@adamfuller5640]

Because the ACC is a much better league than it gets credit for. I swear you people think anything that isn’t SEC or Big Ten is Peewee football or something.

[@Intragravity]

@ this isn’t about SEC or Big 10 bias Cal lost to FSU and gave them their only win of the season there are so many teams that should be power rated over them

[@juliec1257]

Big news also is that JuJu Lewis will be at the game! You know Kirby will want to show out for him!

[@chrisbradford5893]

Fayettenam is reserved for Fayetteville, NC not AR