Weekly Drama in TTRPGs: OSR, BROSR, and Ginny Di Being a Hack

[@UltraTtrpger]

Thanks for the shoutout about my BrOSR livestream I did! While I still have issues with them and won't ever play in their style, I definitely felt like I got a better understanding of them. I also agree with you on Ginny. People need to at least read the rules before they ever plan to start breaking them.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@UltraTtrpger it was a good stream, but for me it was yet another definition.

[@cernunnos_lives]

Wow just stumbled onto this channel lol. I'm glad i just found this while lookin for Zeb Cook videos. Old time AD&D fan (that hated WOTC) that just got back into catching up with all this crap.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@cernunnos_lives welcome! And thank you.

[@ronenbeckerman4956]

This video was practically therapeutic! Thanks for the rant!

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@ronenbeckerman4956 it was necessary

[@lanir9543]

I feel like the Ginny D video about D&D in a castle was a kind of mea culpa about taking on more than she could handle, getting imposter syndrome while doing it, and then getting a lot of good advice from very talented and experienced DMs. I respect that she admitted to the problem in the video (which is how any of us actually know about it) and shared the whole experience. I think a lot of new GMs suffer through that feeling as well. So I feel it was a useful video in that respect. Having run many games myself in many systems I don't really get paid GMing especially since most of them would be less experienced than me. When I play with new GMs I usually end up teaching them something in a respectful way. I don't mind doing that but I definitely don't want to pay for the privilege, much less pay $3k for it. I'm kind of wondering if that's the issue here or if it's something more specific to Ginny?

[@drivinganddragons1818]

There wouldn't be an issue if she just showed up and felt out of her depth and shared the experience. That would actually be admirable. The issue is her narcissistic lack of care. She knew what she was being sold as and took pay to go be falsely advertised. Then she didn't even bother to do thr bare minimum basics. It was bad enough she did that for years on her channel, but at worst a viewer might feel misled or like their time was wasted because she didn't even care enough to read the DMG before posing as an expert... But she took a large sum of money AND STILL couldn't be bothered. Imagine you win a contest. The prize? A chance at a million dollars. All you have to do is make a 45 yard field goal during half time at the National Championship Game. They tell you "kick it yourself, you get the million or you can have a legendary pro try for 10k." You pick the safe money, let the pro kick. Out walks QB Drew Brees. Legendary Pro. Not a kicker. Not only that, but you then find out he accepted the job knowing he wasn't a kicker and didn't even practice in the time leading up. You get nothing when he flubs the kick. Do you feel cheated when you got a "pro" but not a "pro kicker"? Do you feel he did you wrong not just by accepting the gig, but by not even practicing his kick? That's what she did. 5e expert "Celebrity DM", for thousands of dollars... Didn't even read the core book that teaches her how to be a basic level DM.

[@lanir9543]

@@drivinganddragons1818 If we use your analogy it would be the paying players who get to decide whether she made that field goal or not. Reportedly they thought she made it. But we don't know if they were doing some post-purchase rationalizating. Or that Ginny is a reliable narrator. Either of these being true would certainly make your take on it the right one. I'm not quite sure which way things fall on this so I didn't really make a judgement. I think I'm just not offended because while I can imagine a lot of things, the thought of being on either end of the GM screen of a $3-5k/seat RPG game just blows my mind. I'd struggle to imagine myself involved with a game that cost a tenth of that! So yeah, I get your opinion even if I haven't quite landed there myself. Makes perfect sense.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

Even if she "made the field goal" you would still be less than charitable towards that player if you found out they phoned it in and did no practice or prep. Just because it worked out doesn't change the apathy and lack of effort. That said, I'm also going off this combined with how she presents info in other videos and how she treats others on social media. It all adds up to a person with very few redeeming qualities. As for D&D in a castle, if that's your thing, it's not nearly as extreme as it sounds. I have been planning to attend the Monaco Grand Prix for years and that trip, while almost 20k when it's all said and done, has a bunch of options where I can pay over time and even reduce costs to get it closer to 12-13k... And it's a trip to Monte Carlo, which is pretty awesome on its own. I'd also be willing to spend a pretty penny to go through French wine country or on the bourbon trail. Now would I ever see shelling out 7k to play D&D and sleep in a castle? Hell no. But I can understand it because there are bucket list vacations I want to take that plenty of people would say "15 Gs to watch a pretentious engineering contest where really fast gocarts go in circles? That just baffles me"

[@CowCommando]

I have no issues with so called AI art. I think it's a fantastic tool for artists to do rapid prototyping. What I _do_ have an issue with is dishonesty. If you said "No AI art." You better have freaking meant it.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

That's basically my stance. I think AI art levels the playing field for small publishers considerably. But don't lie to me.

[@clarence3662]

In fairness the DMG used to contain all the rules. Now all the rules are in the Player’s Handbook. I DM my kids 5e all the time. I almost never look in the 5e DMG. I DM my old high school friends in 1e. Look in the 1e DMG all the time. I pretty much look at the book that contains all the combat rules…

[@drivinganddragons1818]

I would agree, but there's a key difference in kind here when you talk about a person who puts on the mantle of an expert. Imagine two people talking about ecenomic policy. One is just having a casual discussion with you, the other is giving a paid lecture at your local university. Neither has read the details of the current ecenomic policies of the administration. Does either need to read the details to get a good idea how things will go? No. But one is out there making money off their analysis as an expert. That's what's happening here.

[@Iron_Halls]

Damn. I was pretty happy with Mexican orcs haha. Ive been making them Mexican in all my games because im Mexican and I love orcs. But yeah WotC suck ass.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@Iron_Halls ok, troll test. Have your orcs ever, at anytime, in any situation, ever mentioned a lack of need for badges?

[@Iron_Halls]

@@drivinganddragons1818 I'm not gonna like, I don't know what you mean but no my orcs have never done that haha

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@Iron_Halls ok, good lol

[@RollForTuraco]

​@@drivinganddragons1818 Badges? I don't need no stinking badges!

[@adampender2482]

I always find it funny how some people are above reproach for no reason while others cant do anything right even if Jesus Christ himself were to say they're right

[@drivinganddragons1818]

It depends a lot on the situation. Some just have tribal sycophants and no matter what, they're right. If you don't agree you're not part of the tribe and that means you're an enemy. Then there's people like Clowndor who is such a narcissistic asshat that's demonstrably wrong on a regular basis and treats his opinions as facts. He fully deserves to be written off unless a significantly more reliable source backs him. I'm quickly putting TBE in that boat too. Though he is far, far more credible than the bird brain, he behaves the same way regarding his fringe opinions he treats as facts.

[@DM_Bluddworth]

Can you give an example of "who is above reproach". I personally don't know anyone on KZbin or X, even remotely associated with our hobby, that hasn't been attacked or banned for his / her views.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@DM_Bluddworth other than Jesus Christ and the Blessed Virgin Mary, I don't know of anyone beyond reproach, but I've seen a whole lot of self proclaimed experts on X and YT who act like it and even more sycophantic stans who act like it for them.

[@DM_Bluddworth]

@@drivinganddragons1818 that is my point. Some might think they are beyond reproach, or they white knight for those they think should be, but everyone including Jesus and the Mother Mary do get attacked on the internet. I was questioning Adam Pender’s claim that some people are above reproach. It is impossible that anyone is given that status by everyone. It only takes one contrarian voice, and our hobby has a legion of those.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@DM_Bluddworth I don't think he implying a person actually is above reproach, but that some people get treated that way by their fan base. I can see that. Ginny Di simps act like she is the Mother Mary of D&D. TBE and Jeffro each have a contingent of followers who will use every trick in the book to warp reality into a version where every word out of their mouths is gospel. Same goes for figures of the past like Dave and Gary and Tracy or relative new kids on the block like Kelsey or even the insufferable clowns at WOTC like Makenzie or Kyle or Jeremy.

[@TeapotSpouts]

GD got irritated with me because I asked her where her APs are. Her fan base voted for her to run a game live and she started to panic. She’s an imposter. She’s an it girl, pick me. She plays but she’s not the expert she believes herself to be. Also, in before indestructaboy comes here to attack you via video.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

Ahhh Indestructasoy. Desperate to be be picked as she is the apple of his socket. When he's not squinting at femboys. Yeah she's a poser and anyone who cares to pay attention knows it.

[@TheOGGMsAdventures]

The brosr is a pro wrestling stable in the ttrpg community

[@drivinganddragons1818]

Eh, depends on who you're talking about in the BroSR. A few certainly fit that description but others are more like Manosphere personalities and fellow travelers or people who just want something that more closely simulates "real life"

[@TheOGGMsAdventures]

@@drivinganddragons1818@drivinganddragons1818 As a group, the characters they choose to play are very much inspired by pro wrestling. NWO=Brosr. They make drama because they know it will get them epic heat, and in that, they succeeded. Have some of them taken the kayfabe to far, yes,

[@spacerx]

I like how if you take the caps out of brosr it looks like it would rhyme with poser.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@spacerx very apropos

[@TheOGGMsAdventures]

@@drivinganddragons1818 they are harmless drama instagators who only have power that we give them

[@ravenwulfgar]

Personally, I play both older and newer games and rebrand, no rebrand, assholes, no assholes, my table runs the way it does. I don't bother with conventions or gatherings, any of that. I don't care to share with "modern audiences" or any of that shit. I'm gaming these days and I have a zero-prep dungeon I played in Four Against Darkness that I wrote about complete with photos. As for Ginny or the BrOSR, I don't care. Despite their opinions, my table still runs. They can whine and piss and moan and I'll probably still break out We Deal In Lead, Cairn or some other game and play it and they won't even be considered.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@ravenwulfgar our tables will run, but if us good to consider and discuss the ideas and philosophies of others, particularly when they influence development of new games.

[@SHARK-yq5pr]

Greetings! Good program, sir! Indeed, way back, I used to think Ginny Di was just a happy, kind, somewhat silly D&D gamer girl that as she mentioned in an early video, "Brought the chirpy pre-school teacher energy" or something like that. I watched some of her videos, which mostly gave basic, as you say, "Generic" advice and commentary about D&D, but with a happy, chirpy presentation. I thought she was cute, but essentially harmless and sweet. Then, I saw the video by my friend, Diversity & Dragons, where he brought the receipts on Ginny Di being a raging Leftist, full of her own hatred, bigotry, and venom. My eyes were certainly opened! *Laughing* Perhaps I am at something of a disadvantage, because I take people based on their presentation, and their own individual videos. I don't hang out on "X", or Facebook, or Instagram. Still, learning her true attitudes and positions was disheartening. Not that I'm some pathetic simp, I had just held out hope that she was a normal, happy gamer girl that was actually nice and sweet. Instead, she is a sad, terrible person. Oh well, right? It is disappointing, though. I like what I hear about Harmony Ginger. Honestly, though, I don't really become a "Fan" or some kind of obsessed fanatic about anyone, especially online. My life is too busy to be that concerned about someone online. Good program, again, and funny, too! I like your sense of humour, presentation, and straight forward commentary! Keep up the good work! Semper Fidelis, SHARK

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@SHARK-yq5pr thank you sir and welcome to the channel. Harmony is pretty down to earth and cool to talk to. Seems like same chick on X, on KZbin, in Discord, and at cons. Speaking of cons, she didn't charge people thousands of dollars to play in her game when she never read the rules either, so yeah, give her a watch.

[@spacerx]

That AI hot take is questionable. AI is certainly the INVESTORS' baby right now, and everyone is running around trying to implement it because it's the hot new thing. Just like sourcing everything to China was the hot thing in the business world... right up until it wasn't anymore, because it wasn't all it was sold as. AI will probably be a useful tool for certain things, but whether it's really "the future" is just as questionable as the idea that flying cars was the future back in the 50s.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@spacerx well we will never know about flying cars since government regulations neutered automotive progress in the 70s. That said, it's not the same thing here. AI a more like the robotic assembly line. It started as automated tools controlled and inspected by human workers. It progressed to a human worker spot checking dozens of autonomous robot workers that require almost no input. AI is already a tremendous game changer in several areas, most notably format editing, research, and preliminary design. There's simply no universe where a human or team of humans can more efficiently compile raw data than even a team of skilled researchers. It's definitely the future in much the same way nail guns and laser levels were the future of professional carpentry.

[@shui_og]

I think it is the future in the sense that it is what industries will be using whether it is "the best" thing or not. Think about something as cruel and archaic as human slavery, the romans could have invented steam power, they could have had an industrial society. But they didn't NEED to, because they had slaves. The current generation of Ai is the same way, it gets the job done just enough, and in a way that benefits those in power enough, that it will likely be the future we end up with (for now). Whether there is a better tool or not, Ai will be used because it is the neo slave. Why use a steam engine when you have a fleet of slaves? Why use something other than Ai when it can do the trick? I don't agree with either of those things and find it very tragic, but that's the way it looks to me.

[@tomtom7955]

Just stumbled on this channel and its really uncanny, all i have been doing lately is working on cars and complaining about the state of 5/5.5e dnd. most of my issue could be alleviated with the incorporation of rules from older rulesets but my friends who have only played 5e and video games hate anything that inconveniences their characters, be it tracking food+water or using arcane spell failure or casting a spell(non touch) or ranged attack in melee is at a penalty/ provokes an OA.... OSR games seem more my speed, i just need to find a group.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@tomtom7955 another option is be the GM. "hey guys, this is what I'm running, if you want to play, you're more than welcome". Sometimes just showing up with a game book and saying "this looks awesome, let's check it out" works. I like Cyberpunk better than any D&D, so that's what I run in my Sunday group.

[@Minodrec]

Seth reach system mastery in most system.he presens.. He even makes complete video guide. He is experienced enough to improv good rules anyway.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@Minodrec yes, he is definitely the type to fully explore a game before he starts seriously commenting on it, but he's had several module reviews for games he admitted only a basic familiarity with. If he comes out and offers some insight on a game he's not read every major book for, that's something that can be easily accepted based on experience and familiarity with numerous systems many of which may be very similar. That's kind of the point though, it wouldn't be acceptable if Seth was exclusively dedicated to a specific game and even less so if he had very little to no experience

[@froggirec]

just forget about pro DMing. just forget it.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@froggirec it's a thing. It's not going away. I don't see how ignoring it would help

[@BaseDnD]

Hey i was just posting about those 😂

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@BaseDnD figured I better mention it. Gotta feed the beast so I can get those eyeballs on the actual gaming content

[@DM_Bluddworth]

I have always said three types of games / play styles fall within the OSR. The OS is common, Old School remains uniform, however some might argue over what = “Old”. For me, 30+ years old is old school. The “R” is where the variance comes into play. Renaissance (literally meaning rebirth) but not an exact copy of is where the retro clones fall. Revival (to bring back to the original) is when you run or play the actual older system or edition. Finally, Role Playing or Rules which means you are adopting an old school play style which can be done with a modern TTRPG. A really important note, and I will die on this hill. The OSR is NOT just Dungeons & Dragons or its derivatives. Any game system, old enough, can be considered part of the OSR. If you’re running Traveller 1E, that’s OSR. Call of Cthulhu 2E = OSR. Bushido = OSR. MERPS or GURPS 2E = OSR, etc. etc. Only outsiders and exiles try to put a negative connotation to OSR. Only those that don’t understand the meaning of the words Renaissance and or Revival don’t differentiate between the two and wrongly believe OSR is one monolithic thing. There is nothing wrong with the OSR having several segments to it, that doesn’t mean there is a fracturing within the “community” because it isn’t a community. Participating as an OSR Game Master or Player simply means there are certain games or play styles that you prefer to play…. Period! It doesn’t mean your in some kind of a club, nor does it mean you are exclusive to OSR gaming.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

I would like to agree and the initial reality is probably far closer to your view point than what had come of it. Unfortunately, much like what happens in any other movement throughout history, OSR has taken on a separate meaning that has replaced the original in public consciousness. True, a lot of it comes from those on the outside looking in, but they outnumber the OSR by orders of magnitude even when we give OSR the broadest possible definition. I don't want to use the very easy modern German example, so instead, think about the French Revolution. The Jacobin Club started as a faction militantly in support of strict republicanism. They were champions of maintaining the power with the people of France. The they were hijacked by Robespierre and will forever be remembered as tyrants responsible for the Reign of Terror. There's a perception is reality thing that people who care about the OSR as you describe it need to consider as they collectively rebrand.

[@DM_Bluddworth]

@@drivinganddragons1818 I disagree with "the need to rebrand" because rebranding will not end those that are looking to attack those that prefer to run or play the older editions or use the older style of play at their tables. We need to ignore the effort by outsiders or jealous adversaries or at most reclaim the OSR as not being a community, movement or some "design philosophy" but simply a preference of play. As for the group on the attack, there is a common claim that they make, "I've been kicked out of the OSR". I wish I could post a meme "One does not simply get kicked out of his own preference of play". What they got kicked out of was social media servers (ie Discord groups) or they aren't invited to livestreams or some other social activity and in almost every one of those cases it was due to their negativity and other toxic behaviors. Going back to Elementary School Report Cards, those individuals probably had the comment "Does not play well with others".

[@drivinganddragons1818]

I don't think we disagree here. My point is trying to rebrand OSR does no good if you just take the same problems with you. Of course, your view of the OSR is different than the community view many others have and the two are not 100% compatible. But you are certainly correct that many of those "kicked out of the OSR" are simply those like Clowndor who found out that nobody wants to talk to you when you're a colossal prick to everyone who even slightly disagrees with you.

[@spacerx]

The OSR movement was founded on D&D retroclones. Anything that isn't based around D&D retroclones may be cool. It might be old-fashioned, or even old school. It might be adjacent. It could very well be a spin-off. But it can't be OSR, because the OSR was built on the D&D retroclones. And I say that as a guy who never considered himself part of the OSR, but I'm sympathetic to much of what they're doing (and very disinterested in much of what they were doing too.) But if you start expanding it like that to anything that's vaguely "oldish" then the OSR is a meaningless term. It's just a marketing buzzword.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@spacerx that depends on use and context. Regardless of how much Pundit may not like it, OSR as a school of design thought evolved to be OSR as a movement and OSR as a philosophy and OSR as a short hand for a specific segment of the player base. This leads to people needing to clearly define their terms or be very conscious of context.

[@TheOGGMsAdventures]

You can hate her all you want, but she knows what she is doing. No one knows how to market Ginni Di better than Ginni Di. Look how many of us Marks fell into her trap and made a video about this very topic. You do not think she did not know just how people would respond to her last video. She knew exactly what would happen

[@drivinganddragons1818]

I completely disagree with you here. She wasn't rage baiting when she posted that, she full well knew most of her viewer base probably doesn't even own a DMG. Also, none of us are boosting her signal and she knows it. I don't hate Ginny, I just recognize an unethical hack for what it is.

[@TheOGGMsAdventures]

@@drivinganddragons1818 oh please she knows exactly the kind of response she’s going to get. She’s seen all the negative sh&&& people writes about her. Just as she knows all the positive stuff people write about her she is an industry. She’s an e-girl she’s a manic pixie Dreamgirl. I’ve got videos talking crap about her from eight years ago, but in this case, I don’t think she was wrong as anybody read every page of the book Have you ? She never profess to be an expert. She doesn’t come out saying she’s had decades of experience or she’s better than anybody. That’s the other guy. All she does is say me dressed up a character talking about one of my characters here’s me commenting on the latest DND gossip because I know it’ll get me positive or negative heat. Here’s me talking about player or deaf , because I’m cute and that you like me, is she a expert five Dungeonmaster sure probably means she gets more people playing her games then i do mine. Is she a renowned 5e dungeon, Master well people know who she is. But I don’t think she’s ever said I have more experience. I’ve done more accomplish more. I’m an expert, but I’ll go and check, but I don’t think she’s ever said it in this case I don’t think she was wrong and if you don’t agree that she knows exactly what she’s doing.

[@TheOGGMsAdventures]

@@drivinganddragons1818 no I do agree that she is a hack because of no point in time is she been honest about the fact that she’s an E girl that she knows she’s a magic pixie Dreamgirl most of the other DND darlings do. Jessica I respect completely because she has blatantly honest that she knows what brings the money to her table first is her boobs Gini knows that she gets those extra likes fir hints of bobba with out going full if but she’s never acknowledged it. And that i don’t respect at all 99% of the time i agree she is stirring the chaos but she knows what she is doing

[@drivinganddragons1818]

She plays the humble brag but absolutely portrays herself as an authority on 5e gameplay. She doesnt say "muh 4 years" or "I've read all the books and played 1000s of hours", but she very much presents information in the style of an expert helping the novice. Since you asked, yes, I've read the DMG for editions I play and if you ask me to find something in the 3.5e DMG, I can generally locate it quickly without using the index. The Cyberpunk Red core book is a disorganized disaster and I can very quickly locate information because, yes, I've read it more than once. Why? It's Game Master, not Game Apprentice or Game Journeyman. And I totally disagree about her posting that video knowing it would get heat. She honestly thinks she is a typical DM and she 100% expected the response she got in her own comment section "Oh girl nobody reads that stuff, we just listen to you fir your better, practical, real world advice here on you tube!" Where you're correct is that she is very much a dishonest E-girl who lies about being an E-girl. She panders to social justice simps with a coy smile, a "nerdy" sense of "humor", green hair, and a stream of leftist social dogma. She's the D&D KZbin version of the Big Bang Theory.

[@TheOGGMsAdventures]

@@drivinganddragons1818@drivinganddragons1818 Don't forget I am a leftist social dogma childless cat person with a coy smile. After almost 9 years, you do not think she knows the negative heat she gets. I know she does because I've read her posts about it. In fact, look how many of us Marks, including myself, get posting videos about her whenever she opens her mouth. How many of your videos are about her? 90% of the time, I will also sh&&& post on her and have been for 7 years, but this one I disagree-I don't think she did anything wrong. She knows the rules for the stuff that is important to her game and her posts; She made this post because the new DMG is coming out in November and she probably is on the short list to review it, if she does not already have it I have not read the rule book page to page for 1/2 of the games I talk about, but I still try to present myself as an expert helping the novice. That's the whole point, trying to talk to others and help them so they do not make the same mistakes I make Ahh, but we are not talking about 3.5; I asked if you had read every page of the 5E DMG, and if you could tell them what's on the first page of wretched vigilantes.

[@sketchasaurrex4087]

Is Classic gamers a shot at Nerdcognito?

[@drivinganddragons1818]

No, its not a shot at anyone. It's more a PSA to the general OSR community. While calling the segment of the player base currently called OSR "Classic Gamers/ing" is a good thing as it separates the movement/trend/community from the school of game design, the general climate from which most are coming is that OSR has gotten a sullied reputation from things like the BroSR and other polarizing personalities in the general sphere of OSR games and their behaviors towards not just each other, but players who live TTRPGs but don't share their philosophies. (For example, people who start shouting "tourist" at anybody focused on or preferring a newer edition or version of a game than them as opposed to reserving it for people like Generic Ginny who is only in the hobby because she was riding a fad.) My point is that simply separating off from the OSR label isn't going to fix the issue with perception unless a change in behavior accompanies it.

[@sketchasaurrex4087]

@drivinganddragons1818 tenkar, delver, and nerdcognito are my introduction to before 3e. All of them have some form of passionate dislike for my preferred edition, lol. I am learning of the BroSR through seeing jerks like pundit & basicexpert crap on nice people that aren't in perfect line with them. I was just curious because Ryan had just started saying that and made a logo with Classic Gaming.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

They are where the classic gaming topic spawned and people picked it up and ran with it. The issue is unless they gatekeep the behaviors, CG will just be OSR with one less letter.

[@sketchasaurrex4087]

@drivinganddragons1818 there's already a CG, the Comicsgate guys get enough hate for being independent comic makers.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@sketchasaurrex4087 lol ok CLG

[@H1Guard]

Ok, you can't show engine p0rñ and not tell us anything. Is that a 280Z?

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@H1Guard 280zx 10th Anniversary Edition. 2478 of 3000

[@smkfet]

Hey, leftist here, I'm not a huge fan of Ginny Di. She seems on the surface to be pretty corporate and all of her videos seem to conform to a very capitalistic marketing playbook, but I'll check out a video from time to time based on if the title is something I'm interested in. Do you have any examples of her speaking about or interacting with any kind of policy or anything involving government or economics? My view could change a lot if you help me out.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@smkfet Diversity and Dragons did a video on her around a year ago where he went through her social media. If you aren't blocked (she blocked me after the very first tweet I made mentioning her because I pointed out a flaw in her gaming advice) just scroll her X for a few minutes on the can. She has openly expressed hatred for Christians, conservatives, and Republicans. She's said that people who don't like safety tools are basically evil and some flavor of istphobe, plenty to choose from. Though it is mostly cultural Marxism as opposed to economic. More an SJW fellow traveller than an avowed, dogmatic political leftist. The phrase "garden variety" is pretty well applied here. That said, she had no problem cashing those big fat sponsorship checks or charging her fans for pictures of her with pointy rubber ears.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

@@xionkuriyama5697 you misspelled "bigoted hypocrite pilled"

[@drivinganddragons1818]

Lmao that's all you have? Touch grass? Clearly you're the one stuck in the basement online when you don't recognize her behavior is the textbook definition of both hypocrisy and bigotry. She's a typical "you're a vile, evil person if you don't celebrate thd aberrant live styles and social philosophies I like" leftist. Agree with me, it you're literal evil doing violence against the world. Quit white knighting, she won't sign your yearbook.

[@drivinganddragons1818]

I should post this as a example. "hey leftist here: reasonable, respectful question." "hey leftist, here's the I for you asked for. We disagree on probably everything, but look at us acting like respectful adults" "lol she hates people and says theyre evil and vile people because they disagree? Hehe sounds like she's a great person. Go touch grass if you think she's a bigot and a despicable person for acting like a dispicable bigot" Two different commenters. One behaves like an actual adult human being, the other a jackass. One probably hates my politics but would be welcome at my table and would probably have fun, the other just gets blocked from wasting anyone else's time. Lessons to be learned here.