WEIRD Order 66 Detail You Missed - Star Wars The Bad Batch

[@Bombastic]

Which Order 66 do you prefer?

[@sham_groyperoid7030]

The original one

[@Lizzy2557]

rots one

[@bagsac_]

The clone wars one, it was more impactful and hurt harder than the others

[@kennethendo7913]

As long as the Kenobi is alive, I don’t care

[@abnerdrawsandmore6241]

Clone wars one carried emotion rather than rots

[@noheadshotbear4254]

No one talks about how Kanan was a kid with the voice of a full grown man

[@jackcarroll22]

Yeah I noticed that. I thought it was funny

[@zcorpalpha2462]

I am 44, when I was 12 in 1987, that summer I developed a very darker voice It just happens lol 🤣

[@akwala__]

I know i was thinking about that to lol

[@b2battledroid560]

@@zcorpalpha2462 no one cares. Edit this is a joke so don't harass me because this

[@zcorpalpha2462]

@@b2battledroid560 Well, I care 🤣 Besides, I’m sharing a story. Who doesn’t like stories ❓🍿

[@ihavenoramen8535]

I hope we see the Kamino rebellion canonized in bad batch

[@SchneeflockeMonsoon]

Pretty sure Lama se letting the Bad Batch go is hinting at it.

[@dragongaming3714]

@@SchneeflockeMonsoon so far I think you're right

[@ShadowTrooper8357]

*we need that*

[@T0pMan15]

With phase 1 troopers

[@SchneeflockeMonsoon]

@@T0pMan15 Phase 1 Rebels vs phase 2 Imps?

[@averyallan7658]

If I hear him say “deepah billuhbuh” one more time I’m gonna have to intervene

[@skinnyj123]

Depa blublublu

[@LexYeen]

I'll help.

[@SirenHead00]

deepah billuhbuh

[@Willster9000]

0:35

[@harrisonpiano8524]

I was just about to say...it's not like her name was never pronounced in Rebels before smh

[@throwbackthursday680]

Honestly, I think they could have told the story of the comic and still had the Bad Batch in it some way.

[@Soron661]

too fucking violent for cartoons and Disney videos, much to our dismay.

[@jackrutledgegoembel5896]

@@Soron661 I mean, they could just cut away from the death, like they did in the show.

[@zoneco9013]

Have the bad batch out scouting or something and have kanen run into them, easy

[@RC-1136]

They showed basically the same level of violence during the order 66 vision yoda had in season 6 of the clones wars. Also the retconned grey and completely discarded styles also green and red markings each had a meaning in greys battalion in the comics bit the color chang in greys armor changes that too o guess

[@patrikmiles9342]

@@Soron661 This would only be valid if we ignored the fact that clone wars(written by the same writer) has had much darker themes or moments in the show like one of the archs was literally about slavery and we see many characters getting decapitated by darth maul including clones in the series finale

[@LordMrBoss]

F in the chat for the man who cared for the Droid attack on the wookies

[@jacobboisselle9133]

F

[@Lizum213]

F

[@thelordofthememes8702]

Btw his name is Ki-Adi Mundi.

[@davindestroyer]

F

[@AlexMustoC]

F

[@AwesomeMutation]

I legit read the Kanan comic book like a week before this released and I was just like: b r u h

[@bullymaguire513]

So there are star wars comics in the star wars canon universe that are about star wars canon? Wow

[@sulwhale3171]

Lol

[@MaceOfSpades5]

Same

[@BlackVeilSavior]

@@bullymaguire513 the comics were always supposed to be canon, post-Disney buyout. Every new medium (show, film, book, comic, audio drama) was supposed to all be canon. However, Clone Wars Season 7 negates Ahsoka’s Novel and The Bad Batch negates Kanan: The Last Padawan, so it seemingly is setting precedence that Star Wars comics will be a secondary tier of canon, and can always be negated and replaced by a film or show.

[@bullymaguire513]

@@BlackVeilSavior r/woosh my friend! I only made a joke about the first comment, that was written by Cal Kestis. He said that he read the comics, but he IS part of the comics, so that was just a joke about him reading himself reading himself..

[@nightthrasher24]

I like to think that Kanan's PTSD caused him to remember slightly differently, otherwise I can't handle the 2 different versions

[@minisarge2619]

Me too!

[@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034]

Not a bad idea... even perhaps leaving the Bad Batch out of the picture because he did not trust them at all once the crap hit the fan.

[@hudsonk1racer]

the inhibitor chips themselves were this for many old fans back when TCW first introduced it, the dangers of retroactive continuity and all that.

[@steveking1037]

@@hudsonk1racer they were a “midichlorians” level retcon.

[@DarkElvishChick98]

I refuse to think that way. What is on page, unless in-universe acknowledged to be different and imaginary, it is how it actually went down. This is putting his origin story on the verge of non-canon because of The Bad Batch and their need to fanservice at the risk of endangering lore.

[@extragam7256]

In season 7 of clone wars Maul uses the metal panel to slice a clones head off so it’s not just in revenge of the sith

[@ugiustuskeiserus8066]

Well it was still off screen. You just see his helmet fall into view. In the comic you see the clone get his head cut off

[@MJJFilms]

@@ugiustuskeiserus8066 Ahsoka cuts off the heads of two Death Watch in the Clone Wars, and Savage Oppress decapitates the Black Sun.

[@ugiustuskeiserus8066]

@@MJJFilms Again, the savage moment was off-screen and you just see the bodies fall. Credit to that Ahsoka scene though.

[@chrisboateng5975]

@@MJJFilms difference between the og clone Wars and Disney clone wars

[@MJJFilms]

@@smugplush I’m pretty sure as long as Cartoon Network didn’t stop it everything was allowed. With Disney they actually wanted Rebels to be a kids show.

[@multicreativeartist6579]

I heard we're getting new orders soon...

[@Oof5835Yh]

Hmmmmm

[@Oof5835Yh]

@@liduna2000 HMMMM

[@adrientaylor460]

MASTER!

[@ShadowTrooper8357]

Good soldiers follow orders

[@jarmoliebrand3395]

I’m ready to be gone from this dump

[@matthewkazaniwskyj1538]

I wish we had the order 66 scene in the middle. Should have been a little longer with caleb dume helping his master hold off the clones for a bit. They had a good bond, we should have seen more of their relationship in the bad batch show.

[@countluke2334]

Doesn't matter for this show. You don't spend the first act of a new show with something completely and utterly unimportant to said show. It's a nice cameo, nothing more, nothing less. It shouldn't make people unfamiliar with the other show wonder why they are showing this. I have neither watched any rebels, nor even completed Clone Wars. For me it was just a padawan CF99 let escape because they didn't follow Order 66. And that's all this was about.

[@takemeseriouslyplx2124]

The Ahsoka order 66 is fucking amazing! I usually don't really care for characters in movies or series in general even if they're very good but that scene when Rex pulls his gun on Ahsoka my jaw just dropped.

[@Soron661]

everything except the scene with her lightsabers having to be used as shields was great in CW season 7's order 66 scene, imo. but it's Disney, so no fuckin' surprise.

[@ariq4209]

@@Soron661 lightsaber as shield? You mean deflect blasters like they always do?

[@rashadhassan3732]

@@Soron661 WTF are u talking about?

[@endangeredmexican9644]

Agree seeing them 2 is like anakin against obi wan all over again

[@bruhboyyt3313]

We need a compilation of how much time him putting "Execute Order66" memes:)

[@sulwhale3171]

Ayo

[@sulwhale3171]

Yoo

[@derekhofstetler3998]

Wait a minute. They said that the message was being sent on all frequencies and thus was just a repeating signal. Then why did Cody got specially contacted by the Emperor and even specifically called out, "Commander Cody, the time has come."?

[@Mythus_Scholaris]

He sent specific ones to certain troops

[@sulwhale3171]

@@derekhofstetler3998 o

[@tommyhofer1830]

I feel like the reason we don’t get all we did in the comic is cuz it’s not from kanans POV. In my head in the bad batch it’s the morning after all this bonding🤷‍♂️. Plus we see all the time how close the Jedi and clones were so I guess whenever I see order 66 I just assume those clones were close with that Jedi

[@minisarge2619]

Yeah. My personal headcannon is that the nighttime version of order 66 is how a traumatized, unconsious Kanan is remembering these events. He's an unreliable narrator. Most likely the bonding campfire moment happens the night before and he "superimposed" order 66 on top. If he blocked the memories and also drank them away, then it's likely he'd not remember the bad batch, who were only there for 10 mins.

[@tommyhofer1830]

@@minisarge2619 this is officially my new headcanon

[@minisarge2619]

@@tommyhofer1830 Thank you! Reading your comment just made me realize that Kanan probably remembered his battalion wearing red because that's the color the bad batch wears too. The superimposing thing again.

[@minisarge2619]

@Joshua White That's fair. Narratively, it doesnt make a lot of sense. His story had already been told (better, admittedly) and he's dead. He's gone through his arc. If anything, I expected a wanted poster. From a production standpoint, it's the smartest choice. A random padawan (an adult wouldn't have been as sympathetic) wouldn't have been as effective, people who haven't seen Rebels are going to want to know what happens to that kid and have a bunch of material to consume, and most importantly, they already have the rigged models from season 7 (which take FOREVER to make and there was no way they were just going to use them for a half a second cameo). That's probably also why her saber is blue, I realized nobody has a green one on season 7 either. However, it doesn't mean I didn't immediately flip the moment I saw Bilaba (Kanan is actually my favorite character), I knew immediately that we were going to get a soft retcon like we did in season seven, but I was excited to see both of them and Bilaba was an opportunity for South Asian representation, so I checked the voice actor afterward. Still, the scene hits hard, Kanan's distrust is justified (did you see the way his saber was shaking?) and he's out of there, presumably to follow some trajectory closer to the comic and meet Kasmir.

[@minisarge2619]

@Joshua White I'm 100% with you. That's just my guess why the choice was made

[@skits_3d824]

I'm just gonna imagine that fire camping scene happened the night before

[@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034]

Just without the orders coming in.

[@suiiiiiii6567]

The 1 dislike is emperor palpatine

[@Lizum213]

And the force ghosts of 8 Sith Lords

[@sheevpalpatine6070]

I actually liked it

[@UTMG]

@@sheevpalpatine6070 impossible

[@akasoundey1727]

Nah it’s him and his clones

[@williamgroesbeck3964]

Don’t forget the other 227 clones

[@Kev-A]

I would definitely want a version closer to the comic. My friend who never read the comic really liked The Bad Batch scene, but I felt underwhelmed.

[@CoolMyron]

Maybe we get a flashback? That would be better than wasting the 70 mins on bonding with characters that were going to die.

[@guitarbass22]

We can agree to disagree. Both versions were underwhelming in my opinion, and this one seemed more realistic to the Clone Wars type of aesthetic. And remember the backlash that S7 of TCW had after the Ahsoka novel was ret conned last year...or at least half of it was. Literally nothing from her getting her sabers back to the Siege of Mandalore to Order 66 was the same in the show as it was in the book. And yet everyone enjoyed the show version more, and barely anyone complained about how it “ruined the book” (except for a few YT videos here and there for a few weeks). As that issue passed, this one too shall pass, and we’ll look back on the show for what it is as opposed to what it could have been. Also, making it Depa and Kanin was entirely fan service...it could have been any Jedi and still gone the same, so blame the Disney/Lucas Film higher ups for this decision.

[@soupsnakes5250]

@@CoolMyron all we really need is that one scene around the campfire, imo. A short would totally work

[@Warhawk-bz6qm]

completely agree

[@SupChad735]

@@soupsnakes5250 Its not worth it tho probably. That short scene might cost alot of money and is pointless. They dont need to hammer in the fact everytime that the clones were friends with the generals.

[@polter_z]

Im just going to assume that the night they spent together happened before the Bad Batch arrived, I don’t see any reason why it didn’t happen.

[@skinnyj123]

Because styles doesn't exist

[@polter_z]

@@skinnyj123 who? I didn’t read the comic

[@skinnyj123]

@@polter_z the other main clone character

[@bootysnatcher4207]

@@skinnyj123 maybe in the “new canon” (ugh) he was killed prior to the bad batch showing up. That or he was wanking it by a tree

[@skinnyj123]

@@bootysnatcher4207 I'll go with option 2 lmao

[@hellhoundpw5416]

ok literally the first thing i thought of when i watched this episode was "hey they changed this order 66 scene."

[@bowenorcutt78]

My first thought was, "AAAAAAAAH, BABY KANAN!" But then yeah, I had that same thought too. I originally figured they'd either include them in the fireside scene or just not do Order 66 at all.

[@mikemacmillan5437]

I kinda enjoy how they sped along the order 66 scene. We got to see it time and time again and it’s now the perspective of bad batch.

[@spaciouswarrior3974]

I thought that Depa had a green lightsaber so I looked it up and she’s had a green one in just about everything she’s ever been in. I think Filoni did it because in Rebels, The Grand Inquisitor mentioned how Kanan acted just as Depa did, favoring her lightsaber form to a “ridiculous degree” so it would make sense that they were both guardians, seeing as how they were so similar.

[@PadawanBarrissOffee]

Guardian stuff etc are not canon.

[@spaciouswarrior3974]

​@@PadawanBarrissOffeeI guess I didn't realize that after disney bought Star Wars, guardians and consulars were taken out of canon.

[@spaciouswarrior3974]

@@PadawanBarrissOffee My point was really just that they were meant to be so alike, so Kanan having the lightsaber color of his master made a lot of sense.

[@PadawanBarrissOffee]

@@spaciouswarrior3974 ikr but look at Luminara and I, we are known for being alike but with different lightsaber color.

[@TBoneHEMA]

@@spaciouswarrior3974 it wasn't really an "after Disney" thing. Lightsaber colors representing class was never really Canon outside of the old republic, as far as I know. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[@wonderflounium]

I think the main reason why they didn't go with the comic depiction is that it would have taken way too long therefore messing with the pace of the episode. If they had done it like the comics at least half of the first episode would have been entirely dedicated to kanan even though it's supposed to be about the bad batch, and the first episode of a show needs to predominantly feature the main characters so we can get to know them better. If this was a flashback in rebels or a miniseries/short movie about kanan then it would have been fine but it wasn't.

[@marcobovea]

Why did I laugh so hard when he said dipa bilaba😂, it’s like he didn’t even try to pronounce it correctly, funny af

[@jackrutledgegoembel5896]

i feel like that was his accent

[@viperson9818]

I prefer the comic but I understand the retcon. Grey was changed to captain because caleb is technically the commander would've liked to see a sgt styles or Lt styles just to say yeah everything after the initial order 66 encounter from comic can be "cannon". Light green change was Dave probably got tired seeing the dark red/red troopers. Stock troopers, inital wolf pack, keeli units etc. More green to be diverse.

[@benjamingraham8640]

I thought the order 66 scenes were terrifying especially when the bad batch arrived on kamino to see a dead jedi in a stretcher!?

[@soupsnakes5250]

Yeah that was intense

[@mmw4990]

Probably shaak ti (again)

[@Crimsonnavyking]

@@mmw4990 unless they retconned it again, she was killed by Vader in the temple. Yoda had a vision of it in an earlier season of CW

[@quakethedoombringer]

@@Crimsonnavyking seriously, Shak Ti is becoming the Kenny of Star Wars, she just keeps getting killed, revived and repeated

[@TheTrollMastah]

It was very lackluster. The comic did it better

[@toyinawesome]

Also Asoka cut off all the death watch heads when she got captured in the clone wars

[@jarmoliebrand3395]

And Anakin cut off Dooku’s head...

[@SeanWheeler100]

@@jarmoliebrand3395 Dooku's death and the scene where Yoda beheaded two Clone Troopers happened in a PG-13 movie.

[@Ty-yy7zr]

I see this retcon as being ok. People in general are more drawn to movies and shows more than comics and books.

[@DorsenFilm]

The opening bugs me a little, because it retcons some things from the kanan comic, but at least the broad strokes are the same. Caleb dume is on Kaller, the clone Grey turns on him and his master, Depa dies, he survives. I wish some things were more similar, but its not overall horrible

[@obiwankenobi687]

It’s a blatant rewrite and I have no idea why. When Disney have been so strict on tiny ridiculous canon elements that don’t even matter. Stuff like not allowing certain things in battlefront because ‘iTs NoT cAnNoN’. But then they explicitly change this scene.

[@DorsenFilm]

@@obiwankenobi687 well, thats your opinion.

[@CoolMyron]

@@obiwankenobi687 The storygroup has been messed up since disney. If you the story group is fixed, things like this should happen less.

[@obiwankenobi687]

@@CoolMyron For me, there has been hardly any contradictions since Disney took over, they’ve been really hot and strict on it. The canon according to them has more or less held in place quite tightly. The only exceptions would be the Poe novel that contradicted a bunch of stuff around Poe stories and really only exists to give Poe an ex girlfriend so China and Russia can all collectively breathe a sigh of relief that there’s definitely no gay anywhere in the films around Poe. But this particular episode of bad batch was probably the most flagrant disregard of canon I’ve personally seen under Disney. It seems that the books and comics are under a tight leash to not contradict the films at all and respect them in a reverential way. But the films and tv shows can just be like ‘yehhh the expanded media doesn’t matter, we’re essentially the main content’.

[@CoolMyron]

​@@obiwankenobi687 The entire sequel trilogy is a contradiction. They contradict each other and the books in that era contradict the movies.

[@harvestercommander3250]

Can’t you imagine that feeling? One second you were allies on the battlefield, fighting alongside each and creating a bond in friendship, then the next you’re immediately betrayed and killed. Damn the Purge was a dark event. Very few moments can compare to it.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Happened in history all the time. What do you think Civil Wars are? Brother against brother is not just an idiom.

[@studmovers7911]

7:43 Lol "Order sixty six drops" like their heads.

[@robertcurry389]

I like it how now we have seen the 442nd in Star Wars media now. Makes me happy to see one of those clone units that we have seen before but never in action.

[@jackrutledgegoembel5896]

sorry, these are not the 442nd. they were on cato nemoidia.

[@Skully023]

@@jackrutledgegoembel5896 which legion is that

[@jackrutledgegoembel5896]

@@Skully023 I forget the name. Not sure if it has one. Look up depa billaba's legion.

[@IcefisherTenacity]

It is really confusing to me how people will watch a show where a character’s name is pronounced and then just say it a different way. I never understood it with “aSHoka” and I get ‘Depa Billaba’ isn’t the most easy name to pronounce, but “Deepa Billuba”... really

[@benjapizarro981]

Who cares

[@noahpettibon]

It is strange to me. That said George always had the attitude that folks in the world wouldnt even pronounce it the same let alone folks from the really world, so there’s flexibility in the canon even. Like “Hanne” vs “Honne” for Han

[@Toocoolforschool573]

Why does it matter

[@monadoboy9639]

I don't mind this I guess Kanan is an obvious choice but I wouldn't have minded another character like Luminara or something

[@evanbreniser1004]

I know we all noticed but I just gotta say it. Why was captain Grey’s armor green and not red? Why? I don’t understand Disney had the source material of the comic So why is he green? He looks cool in green but why Why change that detail? Maybe to keep him different from the coruscant guard? Idk

[@adrientaylor460]

I think that and also because it would blend him in with the bad batch. But hey that's just a theory, a game theo-

[@ardisuli]

Ahsoka’s perspective was the saddest on screen perspective of order 66. The music worked really well and the whole build up of many years to finally end at something that was already expected to happen still made me cry.

[@Orrissan]

There was also that little bit of hope after seeing him in Rebels. Like maybe he did actually remove the chip pre Order and it's him and her vs the rest.

[@xavierM.V]

They should have completed the battle then made it more like the comic after the battle and once he was in the forest he could have talk to the bad bach like in the show then escaped to the city which was not seen in the show.

[@mattj2081]

Nah, this scene might work in the comic, but if they did this scene exactly how it was in the comic, it would make for some severe tone whiplash.

[@donfears8149]

How? like that moment of HAHA BROOOO OH NO wait WHAT?!?! change in the tone is literally one of the biggest parts of those kinds of moments. Heck, they did it with Ahsoka and literally every other order 66 scene I can think of. Alls well then nothing is well.

[@mattj2081]

@@donfears8149 Dude, rewatch those moments. They actually had a proper build up. The comic was waay too abrupt.

[@ronanriggs8307]

@@mattj2081 I think that was sort of the point though like order 66 was abrupt for the Jedi. We're tense when we watch because we know it's coming but the Jedi have no idea, to them it's always as abrupt as the comic

[@mattj2081]

@@ronanriggs8307 Yeah, but you have to think about this from a storytelling perspective here. For the audience it would come off as weird to be smiling one second, and then all of a sudden BAM everyone's dying!

[@TheBakonBitz]

@@mattj2081 That’s literally the point. Cody hands Obi-Wan his lightsaber one minute and then orders him to be shot down the next. It’s a betrayal they’re not supposed to see coming.

[@bobofthekerbals9797]

I think this version shows the event from the perspective of the bad batch. They don't know anything about the relationships between the other characters because they just got there, and they have no clue what order 66 is. So they are just very confused and don't see the full emotional scope of the event.

[@tagaloatia]

I feel like they could've done both their version while also adhering to the comics. They could've had the Bad Batch join two jedi earlier during the liberation effort and showed us, the viewers, the relationship the jedi already have with their clones while simultaneously developing one with the Bad Batch. We could've seen Crosshair interact with jedi naturally which would further the contrast between his true self and himself under the inhibitor chip.

[@foggzillajr2700]

My favourite order 66 moment probably had to be with Rex amd Ahsoka. I loved seeing the raw emotion in Rex, you see him trying to fight the chip and the order, trying to warm Ahsoka before falling to the order!

[@carsonpearce5980]

The best part of that sequence was grey’s body language when he said “five? Were done” The head bow was perfectly done.

[@IdiotLord123456]

I had no idea of the comic version until watching your video. I already thought the BB version was powerful until now. This would have really been a jaw dropping moment to start the series with.

[@hermesz_]

Honestly prefer the comic version of this scene. This is the first time I've been a little disappointed at TCW

[@allbrickbuilt3449]

This isn't even the Clone Wars but I get what you mean. I think the retcon is fine though, because most people that watch the show most likely never read the comic.

[@konstantinosxenos8028]

It actually retconed much more of the comic series. In the comic series Caleb was hunted down by Commander Grey and another clone whose name I can't recall. Now that these clones weren't there to kill Depa Billaba and then start hunting down Caleb many of the events that happened in the comics were completely changed. A large part of the comic series is not canon anymore.

[@Gameguy-gk8lx]

The captain in green is named Grey in the credits, so potentially this new version of the character could go through the same redemption later. As for Styles, he could now be one of the generic clones in the scene.

[@konstantinosxenos8028]

@@Gameguy-gk8lx I guess you are right about Grey but I don't think Styles was there. He is a Captain so his armour would have some colour on it to make it different from the armour of generic clones.

[@its_nova]

if there is one thing i dont like about bad batch is which version of Depa Billaba's death is canon.

[@thomasjeppesen3055]

The Bad Batch version is the canon version. The hierarchy of the Star Wars canon goes movies > series > books/comics/games

[@its_nova]

thank you.

[@FFGuy-eu7hr]

I think it was also cut back to keep Rex's experience unique in how he was able to use his strong emotional connection to Ahsoka to resist Order 66. It looks like they had a strong connection too.

[@kuziziy4262]

İts simple, if bombastic, day fantastic

[@grummanf14tomcat40]

You're goddamn right

[@TheRecollector7594]

Nice

[@Lizum213]

Bombastic > Literally anything else

[@sulwhale3171]

Bro

[@sulwhale3171]

Chill

[@KryyssTV]

I think you've just picked up on the fact Disney doesn't give too much validity to the comics just as LucasFilm did the same before the buyout. The same with the novels as season 7 rewrote parts of the Ahsoka book. Once more we're back to primary canon and secondary canon with comics and novels being a less official source of info.

[@claybarrett6199]

But this wasn't Caleb's story.... He was a footnote. This is the bad batches story

[@gohotdoggo4541]

Darth Maul also beheads two clones in the end of the clone wars and cuts off a clones arm with the blast doors!

[@igame121]

it would have been better if they camped for the night and the bad batch went off somewhere for a bit. Then they hear blaster shots and run to the base just in time to see the clones kill master billaba.

[@brendonhughes8743]

Dave Filoni made the character (Kanan/ Caleb) so in my opinion it’s only right that he got to tell the story for how he experienced order 66 in the way he imagined it. He wouldn’t have used those two Jedi here unless it’s how he wanted it to be.

[@desmonlee0279]

Yes, it's his story. I finally agree with someone

[@brendonhughes8743]

@@desmonlee0279 one of the only issues I hold with Star Wars is that they’ll let anyone put anything out there prior to considering whether it might need to be used in a film or tv show first. I get why they let the comic be written in the first place but Filoni should’ve gotten first dibs to finish that story not a comic at Marvel. It’s canon now so I’m not concerned with the comic.

[@razorblade_3129]

The reason they’re not focused on kannan. It’s a focus on the clones and how it changed

[@smithjimmypantz3228]

While I agree with which variation of Caleb's/Depa's order 66 was better, this isn't the Caleb and Depa show its the bad batch. That would take up an enorumus amount of time to establish the context and emotion, so I think they did a decent job.

[@H1ydra]

if that battalion is red they would blend in with the bad batch a little because of them being red? probably why they changed it?

[@TheBlackBrickStudios]

It works better in the comic than the show because they were from two different perspectives. The Kanan comic was meant to illustrate heartbreak and betrayal felt in the moment of Order 66, the show was from an outsider’s perspective, the Bad Batch being not too particularly loyal to either Jedi or ‘regs’, it was supposed to build confusion and unease, gently easing the viewer into this distrustful relationship between the main characters and their changing circumstance. Each are effective in their own right, but they exist in two different scenarios. Comparing specific scenes to other scenes is like comparing apples to oranges, they will have different meanings when taken as parts of a whole. The whole of Bad Batch episode 1 worked as a great piece of escalating tension, which wouldn’t have worked so strongly if the inciting incident for said tension held more weight than the episode’s climax. The Kanan series was driven by that emotional weight, which needed to be there.

[@blitzenproductions2846]

The one in the bad batch is better since depa doesn't kill the clones showing she still cares for them

[@strukacz5782]

So i guess Kenobi and Yoda never cared for the clones. Don't believe in everything Filoni tells you.

[@blitzenproductions2846]

@@strukacz5782 yoda had two blasters aimed at his head , had no choice, and when obi wan and yoda are at the tem0le the whole 501st battalion is there so they had no choice

[@strukacz5782]

@@blitzenproductions2846 what. Couldn't they slice their blasters? Ahsoka also had the whole 332nd on her in tcw.

[@blitzenproductions2846]

@@strukacz5782 the whole battalion which is about 5k troopers, so that also means re-supply so that means the clones would just get new blasters and obi and yoda didn't want other jedi to arrive and be killed so they had to , and ashoka had rex and the 3 astromechs to help .

[@strukacz5782]

@@blitzenproductions2846 a battalion in star wars is 576 troopers. Also who did ahsoka had *** with? Billaba also had a lot of clones surrounding her in the comics.

[@LastManFilmsUS]

I like that the clone trooper actually has the black brim on his helmet, but no one else does lol

[@thekorppu]

i've only seen the thumbnail and i know you will talk about what they did to best boi gray and kanan :,) the comic is so amazing and i- i will just try to ignore the start of the bad batch bcs of how amazing the rest is

[@exquisitepuma7318]

They had the unfinished Bad Batch on Kashyyyk arc from the clone wars, but instead of using that they overwrite one of the best comic series and take all the emotion out of it. I just don’t get why they did it, they could have had any other Jedi

[@Davetubeproductions]

Is it me or does sidious make every order 66 call separately meaning that he would have had to make over 1000 of them

[@Kerumoom]

Maybe prerecorded holoclips when the plan is a go? That way he just has to record a clip for every commander

[@Kerumoom]

@Xdo12 he's usually talkin to the commander, which is mostly a leadership strategist role, things would have to be going pretty bad for them to die It would take a while for him to personally contact every Commander and then say "Commander _____________ the time has come, Execute Order 66" Like at least 10ish minutes But when Order 66 happens it is always portrayed as happening all at the same time So maybe on his computer he has a tab with a list of all current Clone Commanders I don't think he would have to worry about interference from the separatists as he's the one playing both sides and it was near the end of the war

[@adamgotlib9885]

The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

[@unviablyy1374]

4:30 well actually a meiluroon isn’t from lothal but it is known for its cameo in rebels when Ezra and zen have to go find one

[@AlexMustoC]

Really liked both, but I think the comic is more accurate

[@moth8775]

Fucking how?

[@soupsnakes5250]

I own that comic series and I love it, so when I saw Depa Billaba on screen, I was bracing myself because I thought I knew what was going to happen, but... yeah it kind of fell flat. The scene right after her death with Hunter and Crosshair In the woods, looking for Caleb, that was really tense and really well done. Hunter assuming Crosshair was helping him save the kid, and Crosshair assuming Hunter was helping him execute the kid. It was just Billaba's death itself that really lost the emotional punch that it should have had for me.

[@moth8775]

This whole show is bullshit

[@b3ndyb0y66]

I was confused if the padawan was Kanan because in legends the clones that killed his master had red paint on their armor not green. Also in the legend comics one of the commanders snapped out of his programming turned off the shields of the ship he was on with other members of the battalion and let Kanan blow them up. :(

[@Sheyvanrocks]

But that's the fucking point. You aren't even talking about Legends here. You are referring canon, not legends, just the type of canon that is not canon anymore, but not legends. We now have Canon-thats-canon, Canon-thats-not-canon, Legends-thats-not-canon, Legends-that-could-theoretically-still-be-canon. No fucking backbone and no care about what they are selling. Fuck em.

[@b3ndyb0y66]

Ever since Disney acquired Star Wars I have no idea what is canon and what isn’t anymore

[@Sheyvanrocks]

For me this is the last straw, i just cancelled all my future preorders of novels and comics. (I own all the Canon TPB so far)

[@amirbenbassat1608]

Does this mean the Kanan comics is out of canon?

[@ugiustuskeiserus8066]

Yes

[@josephcaprino6096]

Great point. That is the sole reason the episode “shattered” in clone wars always pulls on my heart strings. We had several year’s several seasons of the clone wars. Year and years of bonding between the clones and Jedi to then in a moment as little as a heartbeat that is all thrown away. Here we get a couple minutes of knowing each other then bam the order. I love Bad Batch and i think it’s great! But you’re right I had not seen that point of view but it is indeed a sight to see.

[@Greenblitz2609]

How it will be order 66 with mace or kit-fisto (EPIC)

[@heroofthewinds7765]

We already know, Kit got cut down by Palapatine and Windu got yeeted out the window

[@Greenblitz2609]

@@heroofthewinds7765 that why i post this

[@kylel.4419]

Finally, I was waiting for someone to cover this.

[@Regibump37]

I would’ve preferred it if they chose of the other Jedi we didn’t see in ROTS' Order 66, like that Snake Jedi, or create a new Jedi to for the Bad Batch to take on and watch get gunned down.

[@Anchor-Supreme]

My guess for the change was that having the original comic story would’ve taken more time to animate possibly, and that there might’ve been a limit on how long the episode was supposed to run for. However, the changes to the clone troopers’ armors, from red to green, doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Perhaps it was to distinguish them from the coruscant guard?

[@twinsuns6629]

I hope that there will be more mods about the Bad Batch in Battlefront 2.

[@BenFrankarts]

Landerp Calrissian cracks me up every time 😂

[@athanatos2278]

Well it doesnt make sense! Why did they tone down the violence when in the clone wars we have maul beheading clones and ripping arms off!

[@brokenlegend1179]

I wish the show would depict order 66 in its actual nature

[@spadschannel999]

This first episode man omg I loved it all man I’m already in love with it the whole turning into the empire to Order 66 and heavy clone/ kamino focus 💯❤️

[@valentinoa8354]

I liked it a little more, because it really showed how much trust Kanan lost from the clones. From his perspective Hunter was just trying to lure him in because crosshair kept trying to kill him

[@JustDevon1]

I still don’t understand why they had to reckon it over just showing a different Padawan and master

[@emina15]

I've also read Karen Traviss' Republic/Imperial Commando series and that Order 66 version was also heart breaking as well since the series focused on Clones as well.

[@6697Donny]

I hadn't seen the comic version beforehand, So seeing the BadBatch version I thought it was great. From literal moments of just awesomeness & banter between characters to a complete 180 of despair and confusion. And the way the clones surrounded and just kept firing as they got closer, reminded me of Aaylas' death almost.

[@robertturner1308]

I liked your take. You did justice to both versions and explained your preference while also understanding why Disney made it less violent in the Bad Batch. Nicely done.

[@crowlanf2474]

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one confused seeing kanans origin story change....like the comic version was a bit more brutal and felt weird seeing it all change

[@JRCarReviews]

One would expect Jedi to force knock down surrounding clones and escape...

[@joelines8037]

I like how they did it, it gave you the feeling that this was just the beginning, and the characters are set up well...

[@amichalove]

I actually have a single comic containing all of the issues of Kanan and I love it!

[@chillinnn11]

they have to do it that way to get higher immersion with order 99 the clones are the characters that the show followed which gives more immersion as to who they are,we get to see the actual feeling of the clones rather then the feeling of the clone jedi comradery.

[@benspooner7396]

There’s one difference between bad batch and the rest, the point of view, episode 3: from the Jedi, clone wars: the Jedi, fallen order: the Jedi.... bad batch: the clones, in this case they aren’t the targets but are just as confused . You can still imagine that powerful moment between Kannan and the clones the night before

[@attilafekete7892]

Well, the main problem isn't wich version is better, the problem is that they literally become the thing they swore to destroy. When they established canon they said such things won't happen, they said now every story will have an equal value, but it seems like Dave doesn't give a shit, and it wasn't the first time either. But at least than it was acceptable, but now it was completely pointless, the scene could have been even better with a random jedi and their padawan. And canon is just a few years old and there are at least 3 contradictions lile this, imagine what will happen in the next 10 years? We will have a hierarchy in canon like in legends, than what was the point of canon? That's the problem with this.

[@wildpack88]

I like this version, of the Kanan stories, a bit more. 1) I can just assume that most Jedi’s and Pasadena’s had a great relationship with their clone troops, especially ones already established as having a great relationship. 2) this version of it does more for how Kanan feels about clones when we meet him in Rebels. With it just happen ending suddenly and without warning and he has to just watch as his friends gun down his master quickly and without warning...I feel that’s more scarring. Which is why he hated Rex and the other clones so badly. He’s been living with that short moment of, “everything is fine...my master is dead!” for all this time.

[@CourtenayTaylorAdaWong]

If Darth Plagueis awakening the foundation of Sith Templar Empire AKA White-Clad Haumea and Charon message from Palpatine Operation Cinder.

[@ZDUBBERY]

I have this comic and I think it’s a great one. I feel if you really want to follow what Kaleb went through it’s a VERY good book to read (and reread over and over again)

[@eliriggan]

I feel like the relationship between Caleb and the clones is shown so much better in the comic which makes their betray a lot more meaningful and makes sense why he still has a hate for clones in Star Wars Rebels

[@ItzMordo]

I kinda like it because it shows that some Jedi didn't even get a sad or glorious death, it just happened, and in the moment kanan really couldn't do anything but run, not even fight back nothing

[@ashlazdanovich8396]

If they put the bonding scene, (or a bonding scene of some kind), at the start of the episode with everything playing out the exact same way as before, I think it would have made the order 66 scene even better. I would’ve personally liked to see Caleb, his master, and the clones having a good time right before they have to go search for reinforcements to show the connection between them. Then once they do actually go search for reinforcements, cut to where the episode actually starts. That way it doesn’t discount the character moments of the bad batch but also amplifies the confusion Caleb is feeling during his experience. I also think that would have been a better way to endure us to the bad batch as well. But that’s how I would’ve liked to see the scene play out in my opinion.

[@Idicus]

Can't forget Maul beheading and slicing up clones in the last Clone Wars episode with a wall panel

[@kevinwilliams6916]

He is Captain Grey because Caleb is currently the Commander

[@eyemem5080]

The commander has a pog shoulder armor

[@porgzs3208]

I wish Disney didn't come in and tone down the brutal coz that makes star wars better.

[@Exotic-ps7vi]

Wow you are right we didn't even see her die. I hope that the show does try to retain some of the brutality and horrors of war that the original clone wars had. It was a heavy show for sure but that made it so much more powerful imo.