Weirdest game by two super GMs | Dubov vs Nepo | World Blitz 2023

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[@Davvy-yr1zj]

They were trying to figure out how knights move over the board, realising that magnus has already figured that out they saw no point other than drawing,

[@DhanushV2206]

Nice one 😂😂

[@ΕλλάδαμουΠατρίδαμου]

Pity. Just pity. No respect for the game and themselves. There was a time when the players were not just good players but they had also strong personalities. It seems that these years are gone...

[@mcawesome4150]

You can hear them mention Magnus at 1:57

[@VictorMarwood]

​@@ΕλλάδαμουΠατρίδαμου They were speaking about demonstrating a protest against this poor organized event before the game. 7 hours for 12 blitz games is way too much. Also, because of this single game you think Dubov and Nepo has no "strong" personalities? And no respect for the game? Get over yourself, mate.

[@ΕλλάδαμουΠατρίδαμου]

How old are u "mate"? @@VictorMarwood

[@CertifiedGenius007]

At the start of the video: MVL: "Who are you playing?" Nepo: "Dubov" Nepo: "Maybe I should, you know, delay for a couple of mins.. get guaranteed draw. Draw with mercy!" MVL: "Over under how many moves?" Nepo: "2 moves" Context: Previously during Round 8, Artemiev vs Dubov; Artemiev turns up 1 min late, plays 1 move with black; Dubov offers a draw as white with 1 min ahead on the clock, Artemiev accepts it.

[@VijayThakurMD]

Translate the rest plz pzk plz plz

[@ferretdash]

I think he said 12 moves not 2 moves. the game ended in 12 moves.

[@CertifiedGenius007]

@@ferretdash he is talking about the Dubov Artemiev game where Dubov offered draw in 2 moves, hence Nepo is saying if he comes in late as well, he would get a mercy draw offer from Dubov after 2 moves.

[@ferretdash]

@@CertifiedGenius007 oh i see

[@morcjul]

Why is Dubov throwing so much? Dude is talented as hell but only in for the jokes

[@rattlehead3393]

Would love to see Agadmator cover this game. "And already as of move 2, we have a new game!"

[@hawkara]

#suggestion

[@nikhilmurarka1070]

You don't watch his videos carefully." And already as of move 2, we have a completely new game"

[@MMarinovWildRift]

realy never played ? cool

[@sugarcravings1797]

Actually this is a well-known draw game used by grandmasters to end matches quickly.

[@nordkapp3297]

"and it was in this position, after move 12, that the players agreed to a draw as there is nothing more to be done here"

[@happyrabbit7944]

they were discussing something about knights move chain before the game and I'm pretty sure that they both are really afraid to catch some knight fork, that's why they decided to remind each other how this tricky animal has to move, that's a very clever strategy!

[@MrGoose_7]

and so it was, they were still discussing the group of leaders and the party of Nepo and Vlad, as Vlad refused the proposed draw of Nepo, but then agreed when the position became a draw. Just in case, I'll say that I know Russian and understood what they were talking about

[@happyrabbit7944]

@@MrGoose_7 ну так я просто обобщил, а вот то что Влад отказался сначала я что-то не расслышал :(

[@LinZhao57]

Can someone translate what did they say before the game?

[@happyrabbit7944]

@@LinZhao57 I already wrote it below.. in short words joking, tournament situation and brand new knights dance opening

[@marcweeks9178]

Dubov's Ng5 obviously surprised Nepo and he realized he was going to be way out of book in this one.

[@Noi334-ib3jh]

They planed all moves before the games, as russian i understand that they speaking aboute

[@VijayThakurMD]

​@@Noi334-ib3jh😂😂 loved the game Fide rules are stupid

[@happyrabbit7944]

@@Noi334-ib3jh Ян нифига не запомнил и чуть не зевнул лошадь!

[@raymondlabelle387]

@@VijayThakurMD Well, the arbiter used the Fide rules to give 0 points to both players. "Chief Arbiter IA Ivan Syrovy first informed of his decision to give 0 points to both contenders based on subsections 11.1 and 12.9.5 of FIDE’s Laws of Chess: 11.1. The players shall take no action that will bring the game of chess into disrepute. 12.9.5. Options available to the arbiter concerning penalties: reducing the points scored in the game by the offending player. According to Syrovy, the moves played in the game demonstrate that Dubov and Nepomniachtchi had prearranged the result of the game. The players objected to the decision, which prompted a referral to the Appeals Committee. The Committee unanimously voted (3/3) to reject the appeal." From: en.chessbase.com/post/world-rapid-blitz-2023-d4 But that was not said in this video, maybe you did not know.

[@marean_mat]

Nepo's reaction at 5:12 is so funny xDDD even Dubov dropped a smile

[@happyrabbit7944]

Nepo just forget the proper chain of the moves for a couple of seconds at that moment :( because the night dance opening is relatively new opening for him...

[@NJ-wb1cz]

I think Nepo saw that Dubov could've done some damage with this, so at that point Nepo had to simply trust him that he won't

[@jojochess2883]

For those who are curious what they are discussing before the match, yes, they are arranging the draw on the spot and deciding how to do it with the knights.

[@tsetsooooo]

Ok, But why?

[@idisplaypace2411]

Damn bro I couldnt tell

[@jojochess2883]

@@tsetsooooo idk ask them lol. They were also saying that they will have 7.5 points after the draw and were naming more players that will have the same score

[@subashrahul7964]

Bro they just magnus win for that only they are making you know dubov got after this match point 15.5 magnus was 16 if he scored 16 too it would been a match between magnus and dubov but he done wantedly​@@tsetsooooo

[@chantinghang309]

Do you have any proof that they rearranged it? If not, please don't wrongly accuse them. Social media isn't always right

[@oleg2205]

It is some type of trolling. A lot of professional chess players play forced draw variations when they need a break. Here it is just an open draw without serious chess as cover.

[@shaurveya]

"Never move a piece twice in opening"

[@mcawesome4150]

they moved it more than twice so it’s okay

[@shaurveya]

​@@mcawesome4150yeah that's fair too

[@triscuit5103]

Ok I'll move it 8 times then

[@shreyaskrishna6038]

Top level players know when to break such principles..

[@ROHITSINGH-jm9wk]

they might have been given 0 points but for me both Nepo-Dubov are world champions by displaying such incredible draws at such intense moment Lol!

[@userhandle-l]

It was very funny

[@KornelSzalai]

They got it!

[@WowDood1337]

So kind of Dubov and Nepo to provide Hikaru with new content! Just two guys helping a bro out

[@santishorts]

I look forward to having Hikaru read the FIDE ruling. "okay, let's keep going"

[@happyrabbit7944]

Hikaru will be angry because he expected boncloud from both of them to make new content!

[@chesscomsupport8689]

They also helped Magnus out by both scoring 0 points in that game

[@marksidorovskiy9933]

They are saying in the very beginning that this is a demonstrative protest against poor event organization. 7 hours for 12 blitz games are way too much.

[@mr.schloopka1124]

What? Standart blitz tournament is 11 or 13 rounds in one day. The conditions are the same for everyone.

[@steelsteez6118]

​​​@@mr.schloopka1124they are saying the organization of the event is poor for everyone, not just them, duh.

[@nk73]

Russians dont protest, is that allowed in Russia? And they didnt know the format before coming to the tournament?

[@filjushawf]

@@nk73 are you a nazi?

[@evanling7570]

Let’s hope a bunch of players follow suit and withdraw

[@rprose]

this like is for ChessBase India being there to film the game and its prelude, not for the "game" itself or what it represents. Kudos team, chess needs more journalists. This is a real service to the sport.

[@professorx3060]

Agreed

[@digocr]

Agreed

[@akashnadar1449]

Better than the berlin draw

[@evanling7570]

Qe4+ Qe6 Qd4 Qd6 smh

[@resonance4789]

​@@evanling7570Bf4 Nh5 Bc1 Nf6 smh

[@el_kasztanejlo8555]

Not when you discuss it and agree to it before the game starts. It’s called prearranging or rigging. They should get auto DQ for this clownery

[@Chess_with_Debilych]

Dubov said he is quite unsatisfied with the conditions and organisation so he proposed to Ian "demonstrative clowning" with the knights.

[@dereknichols4376]

Thats ok,as long as they didnt create conspiracy theory about biased org towards russian etc or 'helping' magnus win etc a very stupid conspiracy theory

[@jamanic]

Yeah, Dubov literally said “let’s troll them” and proposed knight dance moves returning to the reversed initial position. Understanding this is “interesting” 😃, he also suggested to disappear immediately from the venue after they will finish the game.

[@javahomes-um2pf]

This behaviour costed him golden medal. I don't think he is still smiling and mocking

[@Pullapelle]

@@javahomes-um2pfDubov was never winning the title. Did not cost him anything, but his reputation. Which is not much…

[@akio2730]

That’s not fairplay

[@chesscomsupport8689]

This whole situation is kind of ironic considering how, a few years ago, Dubov found himself in a small bit of controversy when he collaborated with Carlsen instead of with Nepo during their WCC preparations. Now that Dubov does collaborate with Nepo, this happens.

[@Carl-Gauss]

Cause this whole “scandal” didn’t harm their relationship at all, actually.

[@Lol-qy1dy]

May be Dubov was a spy at Carlsen camp

[@selle.662]

nepo is chill abt those things

[@no.limit.1]

I honestly dont understand whats wrong with FIDE these days. Firstly the weird shoes fine made in the women's tournament, and now this. How on earth is this any sort of violation when a pre planned berlin draw is totally allowed and is happening since years.

[@Littlefinin]

Do you think it was FIDE that made the decision? Let us be fair, and say it was a decision from the Chief Arbiter and not a decision made by FIDE.

[@patrice1345]

No consistency and credibility from them, sort of like a soccer referee who’s not content with staying in the background and doing their job but rather wants to make themselves famous in a World Cup match.

[@cooloutac]

shouldn't have been allowed for years bud.

[@no.limit.1]

@@Littlefinin Of course we'll question the Governing body and not an individual, what are you talking about?

[@no.limit.1]

@@cooloutac I agree with that, but that's a separate discussion, how would you stop Berlin draws, not so easy.

[@idfx1000]

The weird stuff happens as early as 00:47, when Dubov adjusts the d2 pawn, after which it is not at the center of the square anymore.

[@roytore5062]

Nice catch

[@juandedomenico4306]

LMAOOOOO

[@victorkankomba6061]

I can't believe I waited for that checkmateless game

[@1989ROCKNROLLA]

On December 30, 1936, the premiere of S. Prokofiev’s ballet “Romeo and Juliet” took place in Brno. There is a popular fragment "dance of the knights". Sergei Prokofiev loved chess very much and was proud of his draw with Lasker.

[@delxinogaming6046]

The real solution is nobody should be forced to play. They should be allowed to agree to a pre-arranged draw without playing any moves, if it benefits them both in the tourney. This is the same as poker tournaments splitting the prize, for example.

[@karendesouza-ez4go]

🤡

[@CC-ru4rr]

Yup. Something like 3 points for a win, 1 point for draw, 0 points for a loss

[@resonance4789]

They already do that. Grandmaster draws exist for that reason

[@dragonsjet2]

@@CC-ru4rr Thats how MTG tournaments do it, 3 points for win, 1 for draw, and intentional draws are a big part of the game because most tournaments have swiss but then a cut to top 8 playoff, so usually in the last round of swiss, the players at top of standings intentional draw the last round to lock a spot in top 8.

[@stefanmilicevic5322]

Beautiful choreographic dance with the knights! Superb!

[@MoreMonarchy]

Big props to Dubov forcing Nepo off his preparation and into a new line

[@HIMU_2010]

This is a very complex, beautiful and creative game Very well played by both players!

[@DarthMessias]

It does require skills to create a memorable draw...xD

[@Rio_arc]

You might have just become the game changer by recording and publishing with original audio 👍

[@toSirius]

happiest knight i have ever see 🤣

[@selvedgeson]

Imagine getting mad about this kind of draw, but being okay with the Berlin draw being played like 5,000 times a year in top tournaments

[@FenceThis]

because Berlin defend draws are actual best moves chain but this is deliberate weak and meaningless moves

[@VijayThakurMD]

​@@FenceThisplays 12 moves of theory with intentions to draw is also useless Admit it fide rules are useless

[@haakonht]

Because in many countries who have member associations of FIDE, match fixing is a *crime* and playing for a draw isn't.

[@MatsMatsuo]

@@VijayThakurMDthere are no ways to create absolute rules to prevent two players that wanna draw from drawing, as much as i dislike FIDE, there is not much they can do. It will be on players morals to decide how to act. To me is fine to draw, but not in such a 🤡 way. But I understand other people POV on this, because there is no way to draw a line on what is fine and what isn’t fine.

[@VijayThakurMD]

@@MatsMatsuo they can give 3 points for a win and half points for a draw, so that player try to win more

[@Sosison999]

How is this different from the draw in Berlin????

[@el_kasztanejlo8555]

Because clowns prearranged and rigged the game before it even started. You get to a Berling position. These clowns didn’t even start the game and it was already decided.

[@ChessSaga]

I like this way of making a Draw instead of Berlin. Now the question is will FIDE like it ☠

[@raspaetau]

They did not lol

[@el_kasztanejlo8555]

Not when you discuss it and agree to it before the game starts. It’s called prearranging or rigging. They should get auto DQ for this clownery

[@TheTheoryofEverything2]

This is much better than the 41 move fake draws by some players prepared at home together with the fake thinking phases so respect for trying to get rid of draws by making the pre-aranged draws totally ridiculous

[@flyingcod14]

Forever known as 'The Dance Of The Knights' 😂

[@MalluChessmaster]

"Dont make too many pawn moves in the opening" They took it seriously

[@A73X4ND3R]

Should have awarded them 1-1 for such brillancies

[@niv6924]

lol actually the opposite happened 😂 They were awarded 0-0 to discourage pre agreed play. Fair enough.

[@domirosner]

@@nyxicsulfur Fide's statement

[@morcjul]

Arbiter ruling. Fide might revert or increase the punishment

[@thomasbrodie-sangsteredits5971]

@@morcjulwhy though? Yeah their drawing on purpose but why would they be punished further, they just don’t want to play today.

[@morcjul]

@@thomasbrodie-sangsteredits5971 they didn't go with a drawish line, but played horrible blunders and ignored each other's blunders to make it obvious they were match fixing.

[@64VidiVici]

This theoretical masterpiece is the latest engine inspired novelty. It is known as the "Knight-Cloud" opening. It gives both players excellent drawing chances.

[@OrtegaSauce]

I dont see how this is any different than the one opening that leads to the queens dancing for draw by repetition

[@TheChessViking]

This isn't chess, the repetitions are actually logical chess moves even if they are boring. What they did in this one is just travesty, making a mockery of the game. 0-0 might not be enough punishment!

[@OrtegaSauce]

@TheChessViking This game was actually more interesting compared to the repetitive opening I'm talking about. I get how uptight, conservative type traditional players/chess enjoyers see this game as an insult to chess, but the way I see it is, a draw is a draw, and that's how they should have treated it. And I'm not really trying to change anyone's minds about how/if they should be punished, I'm just saying my two cents

[@myles5868]

@@TheChessViking They both result in the same thing though? In both situations a draw is already decided, so why does it matter how they go about it?

[@Jesterian]

@@myles5868it truly doesn’t. Everyone saying this is “making a mockery of the game” is being so damn silly. If the result is exactly the same and already agreed upon, the moves literally don’t matter.

[@shubomb]

Bcz in those Berlin draws both players are making the best moves in those positions, they always have the choice to deviate from the position but deviating doesn't give them any real advantage whereas here both the players are making objectively bad moves on purpose. The players here had the choice to deviate from this knight dance and have a real advantage in the game. For example position is -1.3 in black's favor according to stockfish after white's 2nd move. If you're replying with a blunder in response to a blunder from your oppostion on purpose then that's the very definition of match fixing.

[@weevilunderwood149]

They were horsing around 😎

[@karthikkamathp]

Nepo tweeted a video of Prokofiev's 'Dance of the Knights' after the FIDE docked points, hilarious!

[@neerajnongmaithem392]

Its very clear that this was done as a funny gesture, they could have played the berlin line and no one could have done a thing. This draw was to mock fide's double standards. This was the last gane of day 1 after 7 hours and both players just wanna go home, no one was scheming any advantage at this point. This was not some fixed draw at the end of day 2 to win the championship

[@danielnery4054]

if they pre-arranged a Berlim draw, or any line for that matter, it would have been just as wrong. If you are sure a game was pre-arranged, you should obviously punish it. In this case, not only the moves but also their conversation before the game prove the pre-arrangement.

[@neerajnongmaithem392]

@@danielnery4054 if you think most of the Berlin draws are not prearranged then you are just naive.

[@danielnery4054]

@neerajnongmaithem392 I am absolutely sure most players don't literally agree to play a draw before hand, they just follow the line when both want it. Also, it doesn't matter if you think most are pre-arranged. Do you have any proof? We are talking about a case where there is literally a conversation recorded before the game where the players arrange the line.

[@neerajnongmaithem392]

@@danielnery4054 I don't think but I know since I have been to many chess tournaments, and have been circle for years. Pre arranged draws among high class players is way common then you can think it is, these players have been playing each other since their childhood and have hundreds of games between each other. When the stakes are not so high and tiredness becomes a factor, players arrange their draw before hand. I know because I have been in the Frank conversation with many of ex seconds such strong players have. It's actually more come in open tournaments since they usually don't have all the time to prep and play a lot of games.

[@danielnery4054]

@neerajnongmaithem392 so what is your point? - Do you think pre-arranging a result in a competitive game is OK and should not get punished? - Or are you saying that Berlim draws should get punished as well? Both options are ridiculous.

[@shashankgodiyal05]

4:56 this is me playing with my sister. I would like to thank Chessbase India for covering this game ❤

[@CYBERJITH]

Good to see the friendship over rivalry

[@Lol-qy1dy]

Nepo is Goat >>> Magnus

[@deeperanddeeper]

I don't think Nepo ever criticised Dubov for helping Magnus, rather it was another Russian player that accused him of being unpatriotic.

[@tm1x___x]

@@deeperanddeeper yeah Sergey Karjakin criticised him

[@santiagodarlingtonarenas9114]

@@tm1x___x And Karpov did it too

[@NP68553]

After this match on special chess new year party Nepo and Dubov talking all night. Info from interview Nepo. They not best friends, but they are not enemies.

[@jeremyrogers6179]

Dubov should be sent to the Gulag for his betrayal of his countrymen!

[@inoderlulzer5163]

Ian is the kinda guy to come off a RAMMSTEIN concert and play chess afterwards. What a Russian Legend.

[@happyrabbit7944]

legendary two times challenger who sacrificed a bishop to Carlsen without any plan or compensation just because he wanted to win without one piece for the first time in the world finals!!!

[@poppyharlow4448]

du...du hast...du hast mich

[@Pullapelle]

Nepo has bad nerves. Never gonna win anything.

[@happyrabbit7944]

@@Pullapelle don't worry there are many other good young players from Russia in queue

[@Pullapelle]

@@happyrabbit7944I guess you mean India?

[@Nick-x6t5f]

Who is here after the Magnus and Ian split blitz championship final?

[@evesolis6133]

RIDICULOUS for FIDE's self-important arbiter to forfeit this match. Draw by agreement can be reached by any move and move order, no consistency and credibility over their ruling.

[@kunalsingh4418]

Nah, not imo. Normally there is plausible deniability. Plus in a Berlin or something u r never worse, u reach draw by playing the best moves. It's different in this case since u have to play bad moves to reach draw. If one player wants he can try to play for win. Do only reason it's a draw is cause it's pre- arranged. Which is definitely a bad look.. And if allowed gives countries like India and Russia with lot of top players a big advantage as they can fix many games. Even if Dubov Ian wanted a draw they could have been smarter about it. This is definitely gonna be punish. Leko even predicted this live in the commentary since this has happened before too.

[@evesolis6133]

​@@kunalsingh4418 being smarter about making a draw doesn't make the result any different. Imo it is not about the moves and how good or bad they are as the draw by agreement option exists based on the "agreement" part. Any draw can be fixed because you just need the opponent to agree. That's why this ruling is inconsistent and not credible - there's never a definition on how an agreement can be reached so what is an arbiter to determine if one draw is fine and the other one is not. There have also been more than a handful of less than 5 move draws on the top 10 board across all sections, again it is just one of the many choices players can make.

[@Shadowboost]

I'm not sure exactly for FIDE, but i believe a draw cannot be agreed until move 10 or something like that

[@evesolis6133]

@@Shadowboost in classical there's a certain amount of move required but not for rapid and blitz. Many 3-5 move draws have been seen in top 10 board in this tourney across all sections, when it is allowed it is simply a tournament strategy that anyone can utilize.

[@patrice1345]

The chessbrah vid talks a bit about how the forfeit was basically FIDE or the arbiter feeling mocked by the play or the attitude here(?). It does kind of confirm that the decision was mainly based on subjectivity rather than some actual rules.

[@Orwaha]

Stockfish has been real quiet since humans uncovered this line.

[@utsav45_]

FIDE has decided to punish the players and set the result to 0-0.

[@Chomusuke71]

Really?

[@denischinese]

Not true

[@utsav45_]

@@Chomusuke71 yes FIDE officially tweeted

[@t00mgoos]

yeah it is@@denischinese

[@Glock7eventeen]

@@denischineseIt is true.

[@ZnikitaZ]

the way they are holding their laughs love them

[@happyrabbit7944]

that's called conspiracy! standart thing for all KGB agents!

[@Not_bad_player]

​lol, grow up @@happyrabbit7944

[@VijayThakurMD]

​@@happyrabbit7944yea yea when others do it it's okay when Russians do it it's a crime Btw how many Jews are banned from representing Israel after they invaded gaza ?

[@og7364]

Basically they both didn't like the organisation and Dubov suggested to play something stupid as a protest. I also don't understand btw the people who say Hikaru and Magnus draw in the double bongcloud is ok, but this isn't. If you have an opinion about prearranged draws and other kind of stuff, at least be consistent with it

[@dereknichols4376]

I dont know why so many people compare it with magnus vs hikaru that was a private event by magnus,this is a official fide event,world championship even not even an equal comparison

[@artaxz1750]

Playing something stupid as a protest?! That's really a stupid idea....

[@kazimirmalevich6712]

@@artaxz1750 protest in the form of "refusing to eat" is not more intellectual, but nevertheless everyone sees it as a protest

[@artaxz1750]

@kazimirmalevich6712 Why are they protesting? And why only one round?

[@kazimirmalevich6712]

@@artaxz1750 At the beginning of the video you can hear them discussing the organization. Dubov is very unhappy with the organization, and then they spontaneously decide to protest against it.

[@the_Cicero]

This game broke the record of rating from Fide in a single game with 5000 and also introduced a new opening ..The Dubov's just horses Opening . And Nepo without reaction , asking for a draw ! Intense ...!

[@jannurkupjasar]

Apparently, fide is trying to act right for the very first time as if such draws happened also for the first time. So sad for Nepo and Dubov. no need to watch these tournaments, it is now ridiculous to watch!!

[@dariogreggio7981]

stfu you're a club player and they're super grandmasters geniuses

[@dereknichols4376]

lmao,so this is a russia tactic to make this event look 'small',because they cant win shit as long as magnus playing

[@ASS_ault]

They are both idioth

[@Pullapelle]

You don’t have a clue, do you? They were punished, cause prearrenged draws are prohibited, as they obviously should be.

[@el_kasztanejlo8555]

Not when you discuss it and agree to it before the game starts. It’s called prearranging or rigging. They should get auto DQ for this clownery

[@Urtas7]

Making a draw on move 3 is possible. Drawing in Berlin Qe4-Qd4 is possible. It is possible to play fixed matches with Ding Liren and Firouzja in order to qualify for the Candidates Tournament. You can't play by the rules, but make moves with your knights alone. Look, don't get confused. The judge, of course, is an idiot - to take away half a point from the leaders, who will still find a way to do it. I hope he will never referee chess tournaments again, especially at a level for which he obviously does not correspond. I hope Nepomniachtchi and Dubov will win their appeal.

[@Madjid.V]

Game of the year give Nepo his vip room 🤣

[@aryanuniyal6004]

😂

[@laffen25]

They should change rules of chess to be 2 points for win and 1/2 for draw. It would make more interesting games and more people would need win to win. Today there are a lot of draws where draws benefit. In soccer with 1 and 3 points - draw is more a loss than in chess.

[@Aerixes.]

5:39 dubov technically won xD nepo sacrificed king in the end

[@Aerixes.]

it was obviously a joke.. @@Vorgesetzter-pn6px

[@NeelThePeel]

I feel so bad that the ref gave them both 0 points. Magnus had 16 points (and won the championship) but Dubov had 15.5 meaning if the ref gave him a point for a draw, he could’ve won the championship.

[@roguegamer6969]

No

[@luishenrycamacho3159]

Nope. He would have to fight Magnus for the final.

[@Bruh-bk6yo]

Hikaru and Magnus arranging the draw - "It's ok" Dubov and Nepo doing the same - "You have to stop it now!"

[@HappySisyphus0]

Online tournament not run by FIDE =/ World championship

[@danielnery4054]

What are you talking about? They never arranged anything. Hikaru was clearly surprised by Magnus' bongcloud.

[@Bruh-bk6yo]

@@danielnery4054 yeah, and they played bongcloud, walked their kings to the center of the board. What a coincidence. And they never planned about a draw because they both had benefits from it.

[@danielnery4054]

@@Bruh-bk6yo it's not a coincidence. Magnus played a bongcloud and Hikaru laughed and decided to do the same. What does that have to do with pre arranging a result?

[@Chessym]

Amazing way to protest against FIDE bizzare organization. One of the most messy organization in any sport

[@TheNordmo]

RuZZian can´t play Chess

[@Subhajit_Paul123]

They both got zero points not because of of pre planned draw but for violating one important chess principle. The arbitrator punished them for violating the fundamental rule of chess. Never move the same piece twice consecutively. But here they dared to do that. Arbitar got mad

[@discovercat4676]

Reti opening, nepo-dubov variation

[@valentino1000]

This is what I like about most of the top chess players these days: They all have a sense of humor and seem to get along quite well.

[@katis999]

honestly, this makes me wanna throw up. That is called match fixing. In other sports, people go to jail for this. Destroys the game, chess is no exception there.

[@humulus5363]

This happens all the time, but usually nobody cares. For example, if they had played a Berlin draw, no one would talk about it and there would certainly be no sanctions from fide. Where's the difference?

[@zhengbq]

Magnus won the blitz championship with 16 in clear 1st. Dubov got 2nd place with 15.5 points. So if Dubov didn't pull this complete nonsense with Ian, and instead went for a Berlin draw or any other 3-fold repetition draw, Dubov will also have 16 points, tie with Magnus' 16 points. And what makes it even better is Dubov actually has a better tiebreaker 1 (TB1) score than Magnus, so Dubov would have won the blitz championship. But he pulled this stuff with Ian and robbed himself of being a WC, who's there to blame?

[@luishenrycamacho3159]

I have to agree with you. They would have to make a better draw instead of this silly knight dance.

[@WaningLoon]

pretty sure dubov doesn't care since he agreed to do this as a protest. also, what constitutes a "correct" way to draw? why is this method less valid than others?

[@ashurphone]

All this proves is that Dubov and Nepo have a great sense of humour 😂😂😂

[@jean-pierretilquin7827]

A great sense of stupidity.

[@jotarokujo5132]

and you have proven to be stupid.

[@bekkbekks7546]

cheating...agreed draw. good they lost their half point.

[@robertlamantin5088]

Looking forward for their next lesson about how bishops move !

[@shadowfighter298]

And media tried to picture that Nepo is very upset on Dubov for being Magnus second.That was business desicion,nothing to do on feeling towards Nepo. I see 2 dudes that knows each other since teenage age and is teasing each other

[@incogneeto2418]

What media is doing that? Never heard anything about it, both are very good friends with Magnus and each other. Nepo has practiced a lot with Magnus as well.

[@eipanag]

AMAZING! I'll add this to my chess opening repertoire! Very easy to memorize and it's FUN to use! 😂🎉😊😮

[@jozefserf2024]

Beautifully perfect. Fide are soulless clowns, or worse, for docking them both 0.5 points

[@Jaraws]

Both lost their 0.5 points because of this stupidity

[@maninderjitsinghjaura9106]

After 4:55 match starts just in case 🎉

[@maciektrybuszewski9964]

Imagine: one wrong move and you cannot return your knight to original position. Respect for both players.

[@chessdude1977]

You can get back since knights can't make a triangulation

[@Meurth]

Not sure if these comments are sarcastic or serious

[@drpuneetuyalimath5731]

"Dancing knights" Will be recorded in history of chess.

[@bitterblue8115]

Wow.. hope FIDE fines Anna Maja for this

[@sliceserve234]

The Two Knights Defense, hold my beer

[@happyasme]

If guys wanna have a draw they are free to do a draw. I see no issue here, it is chess.

[@hookflash699]

It’s pathetic, and it’s unfair to the organizers and spectators.

[@happyasme]

@@hookflash699 it is chess, not mma. You are not obliged to fight for a win and if both are ok with draw why bother anyone? Guys discussed their intentions before the match. So either prohibit draws or eat this. No other way.

[@nvm649]

​@@happyasmeexactly I don't understand why it's 0-0 they didn't do anything against the rules to be punished.

[@Carnifier]

@@happyasme It's not about fighting for a win, it's about playing. Prearranged draws should not be allowed and the players should be punished for doing this. FIDE is rightful to take decision upon this matter.

[@nvm649]

​@@hookflash699 Wdym? I bet it was funny and pleasant for the spectators 😅.

[@KylashTheKiller]

We need subs for what they speak to each other

[@8xmatch]

Dear chessbase India can you upload Artemeiv vs Nepo too Please?

[@sportschad]

So how many times should I move a piece in the opening? These guys: Yes

[@jannurkupjasar]

They can make as many draws as they want. They don't have to ask you. If you think you are genius, qualify for this tournament and play, don't make any draws. Go!

[@useless-god69]

Woow seems like nepo or dubov paid u enough to write this bs! Making draw in itself is not bad but atleast play it out first than make a draw whats the point of playing if u don't even try for a win?

[@GensUnaSumus09]

It's a PRE-ARRANGED draw! Look at the game! Both players were punished and given 0 points. Well deserved for this stupidity.

[@itsajin]

FIDE forfeited the game, meaning both get 0-0 instead of 0.5-0.5. Players have appealed

[@jannurkupjasar]

⁠​⁠@@itsajin I hope they didn't get 0 for making draw. It is their decision, it is not decided by fide. Ridiculous!

[@karendesouza-ez4go]

​@jannurkupjasar cry about it😂

[@zchesiq]

what did Nepo and Daniil talking about before the match?

[@morcjul]

They confused O-O with 0-0

[@jozefserf2024]

Fide once again getting too big for their boots. They'd obviously prefer dishonesty to a dash of humour.

[@adityarai8871]

Nihal and Arjun should also play a draw today . This will keep both of there hopes alive

[@aesaphyr]

Well, as it happens...

[@Urtas7]

Carlsen - Nakamura 1. e4 e5 2. Ke2 Ke7 3. Ke1 Ke8 4. Ke2 Ke7 5. Ke1 Ke8 6. Ke2 Ke7 1/2 - 1/2

[@eatherquake8107]

Ah yes, the knighty knight variation.

[@eyeleyejah]

Anyone have a translation of their conversation?

[@sambarbasa1643]

If dubov draw this game for real/ or legitimately. He could have a play off for rhe championship 🏆 against Carlsen

[@adityadave6363]

"over under how many moves? two moves!"

[@ezine1624]

complaining about Magnus lounge and then you see this ..

[@kunalpant4219]

Lol. Nepo was so happy and giggly. if they just stayed quite and made a few random moves, they would've got away with this. But, they decided to prance around with the Knights and giggle 🙂

[@zlaede]

This is great 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Absolutely epic ! I can't stop laughing.

[@oacmd282]

its genuinely crazy how polarized the youtube comments vs reddit comments are on this

[@Weißdorn33]

This is not fair that Dubov did not get 0,5 points. Just that magnus wins

[@NeelThePeel]

You came from Gotham as well? I agree that the Ref was being too strict and they are always biased to magnus.

[@dmitriydruzhinin2032]

This opening should be taught in school.

[@NMBrayanAmaya]

Probably the most funny draw in the event lol

[@mcawesome4150]

How did you get access to sound to these videos?

[@kimborampage]

This is called match fixing.

[@toSirius]

called a draw by agreement

[@TheDedloc]

@@toSirius coming to an "agreement" to dictate that outcome is match fixing.

[@theboysenjoyer3283]

​@@TheDedloc so Berlin is also match fixing?

[@pushingyourownagenda9889]

​@@theboysenjoyer3283no.. We get there intentionally without both parties knowing before hand

[@pushingyourownagenda9889]

But to be honest we can't do anything about match fixing

[@pineapplesareyummy6352]

This is possibly the greatest game ever played! Chess played to perfection should be a draw. Here, the position was completely symmetric after every move. It is a beautiful draw however you look at it.

[@ChessSaga]

This video is going to viral for sure 😂

[@BenOri-vg8le]

I don't understand the issue with that. Even if they weren't saying it before they could stil draw deliberately so what's the difference

[@mcawesome4150]

there are other players competing too, with them sharing a draw like this they are basically keeping themselves among the lead in the tournament

[@BenOri-vg8le]

@mcawesome4150 of course. But they do have the right to do so. It's done for years even without fixing players often go deliberately to draws or short variations where are know to be drawn etc

[@mcawesome4150]

@@BenOri-vg8le they do not have the right to discuss match fixing. yes you can play drawish lines but you cannot pre-arrange that.

[@BenOri-vg8le]

@mcawesome4150 I know that's what I said that it's not a big deal as they could theories have done it without pre-arrange it. They also knew dubov is gonna win the championship and understood the situation

[@mcawesome4150]

@ yes but it’s worse to actually talk about it explicitly beforehand.