WEIRDEST Watercolor Primary Combo (Try using it)

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Hi friends!
In today's video I want to present you with an interesting and weird watercolor primary combination that I've been playing around with lately.
This is a bit of a long video, so here are some time-stamps for quick navigation:
1. Intro - 00:00
2. Blue - 01:37
3. Burnt Sienna - 02:26
4. Yellow Ochre - 03:24
5. Green - 04:30
6. Orange - 06:23
7. Gray / Purple - 08:26
8. Mixing Tip - 10:48
9. Painting Example - 12:38
10. Peter Sheeler Art - 14:26
11. Conclusion - 16:31
Peter Sheeler's channel:
/ @petersheelerart
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[@waymire01]

I follow an artist in Asia who did a video on this triad. He stated in his art school they start with black.. the blue and orange.. then this triad, then the traditional primary triad. They don't get to move up in color spectrum until they can paint with the one previous. It teaches value, temperature, form, etc before putting full color into the mix.

[@deepalisoodchaudhri6942]

Ive had interesting results with ochre, ultramarine blue and venetian red/alizarin. And then tried the above with naples yellow instead of yellow ochre👍🏻😊

[@artemiotullo9014]

I think the way you presented the 3 Colors and the corresponding Green, Orange and Purple is the best. I’ve been struggling with Color combinations and this allows me to test in a logical simple ways. Thanks Liron and more power!

[@suel4269]

Excellent info! I can’t wait to play.

[@OneTrueWord1988]

Thanks so much Liron! I'm working my way through your color mixing videos, as it's one of my favorite things to watch. I use color mixing as a warm-up, or when I want to paint, but not necessarily paint a painting. 😊

[@mika.laurel]

I have two 5 half pans travel kits that I take everywhere, this one with cadmium yellow and burnt number, and then a CMY pallets with a neutral tint and a titanium white, that I use like a gouache.

[@LironYan]

That's a great combo! (: I started thinking about creating a very simple palette composed of 6 primaries (2 versions of each - cool and warm), and simply using full pans so that their capacity is larger. This will really help keep things simple.

[@bchaveztx]

Hi Liron! Your painting is getting better and better! Ultramarine Blue and Burnt Sienna combine to make what they call Jane's Grey. That is my go to neutral, very expressive! You are an inspiration and I like watching you progress.

[@Kyomiibrown]

Benny Chavez I presume you mean Payne's grey, a staple grey often included in many watercolour sets ? Never heard of Jane's grey.

[@sandran9161]

Kyomii No, Jane's grey is right :) It's an alternative to Payne's grey (which contains black). I learned about the mix on Jane Blundell's blog.

[@LironYan]

Thank you Benny! (: That's great to know, I literally never heard of it and will now check it out.

[@InLiquidColor]

Yep! I started premixing Jane's grey in my palette's too! I have enough to use it regularly and then can add hints of ultra or sienna to change it slightly if needed. Love it for natural subjects.

[@robertweinblatt2018]

I think it is a sort of primary as you do have the 3 right there👍🏻🙏🏻🥇

[@sharonolsen6579]

Love these colors! (maybe because I lean toward them...) I can see rust and stucco.. and warm and cool sides of buildings.. trees...SO MANY possibilities... This was so fun to watch!! Thanks for this demo.. I really enjoyed it and learned from it!!! cheers! :)

[@LironYan]

Thank you! (: Really happy to hear this. It's fun to imagine all of the possibilities - endless mixes!

[@michelleflick1937]

I just tried out this type ofmixing today with different brands. Am going to make a whole book of mixes. It is fun to mix the mixes to find those weird tertiary colors.

[@-Jordan]

Hi Liron, what an interesting combination!! I like the way they turned out. And oh my do I love those paintings like I commented on snap! I'm so happy and excited because I just bought your course how to draw!! You inspire me so much! The video's are never long enough for me!. Love the way you explain the how and why. For me it's such a joy to watch and listen to you!! Thank you so much

[@LironYan]

Thank you so much, welcome aboard! (: I got the notification too. Don't hesitate to email me if you have any questions ^_^

[@tziporaneemanfeder1813]

Liron, when I was learning the Grissaille method with oil, we were instructed to use ultramarine and burnt sienna mixture. A very flexible useful mixture. Considering using the yellow ochre simply adds a new dimension. Thanks. Tzipora

[@mermaid01]

Thank you Liron, I have recently retired and started to explore watercolours after discovering (and subscribing) to your channel. Your tutorials are so easy to follow in easy watercolour language that I understand. I'm not at the point where I feel comfortable in joining in a live critique, but I am working on it 😉🙏🏻

[@vincentcassar3549]

Hi liron. Love this video. I definitely need to try this. Thanks for sharing.

[@LironYan]

My pleasure 😊🙏🏼 Thank you!

[@amiek9269]

Beautiful landscape color mixes! 😀

[@LironYan]

Thank you! It's a wonderful palette (: I love the earth tones in general.

[@mikepolo2887]

Love it! I tried the same except I took English red instead of the burnt sienna. It is very effective. The most hardcore duo is burnt umber + ultramarine and you can create full-color paintings with just the two of them!

[@LironYan]

Yes! That's an incredible duo (: You just have to make sure to find a good Burnt umber. For some reason I came across many crappy ones 😂

[@Vipralipsa]

I like you exploratory approach to the process of painting)) Definitely following!

[@LironYan]

Thank you 😊🙏🏼 Exploration never ends!

[@kjellkanin]

Very interesting! I can't wait to try this for myself.

[@LironYan]

This combo is very fun and simple to use 😊 Let me know how you liked it!

[@TerrieJohnson731]

The painting is gorgeous! I love Sepia! I need to add it to decadent pies. There is a very red-brown. As you might know, 7 half pans fit into Prima 12 pan sets ;-)

[@carolinesmyth127]

I use Daniel Smith and have the French Ultramarine... I find this mix is great for landscapes. The neutrals are lovely.

[@InLiquidColor]

I adore using a deep blue like indanthrone with the other colors as well for a deep earthy triad :D

[@LironYan]

Yes, it looks like such a beautiful, deep color. I still haven't had the chance to try it out. On today's vid I show some new Schmincke paints I got, and they have some of their new paints (like the Perylene Green) and I'm really curious to try them out as well (:

[@MDCampbell]

Hi Liron! Excellent topic. I like the idea of the ultramarine choice. I recently posted a video using Prussian Blue, Burnt Sienna, and Yellow Ochre (sometimes referred to as an "old master's palette"). I love Prussian Blue and it seems to have the same "weight" as the others. After seeing your video, I'm definitely going to try it with the Ultramarine! Thanks and cheers! :D

[@LironYan]

Thank you, happy to hear you enjoyed! (:

[@ianjackson5834]

it look like payne's gray green shade the yellow and blue , I love the orange from this. thanks

[@LironYan]

My pleasure, happy you enjoyed! (:

[@TerrieJohnson731]

OH HOW LOVELY! You know I just chose my printer ink primaries to pan up! Haven't even done it yet and you give me yet another! I love this stuff. I am such a nerd and love being the mad scientist as well, always experimenting. I have watched so many painters I cant believe I have never seen it! Thanks so much!(This set of colors is in Prima Decadent Pies!) I thought it a limited palette. Aparently not as I thought! It has Cerulean and Indigo Blues, so can meet in the middle with them I am sure!wow! The primary and secondary are in the palette I have. I wonder what comes into the tertiary???

[@LironYan]

Thank you! (: Haha, I haven't gone as far as to actually play around with tertiary colors (not to the level of geekiness, that's for sure!).

[@ladyshadow79]

Great great job !!! I both of the paintings and the advice on the primaries.. I am gonna try it out. Thanks :-)

[@LironYan]

My pleasure, happy to hear! Let me know how you like them (:

[@deepalisoodchaudhri6942]

Hey liron! Really enjoy ur vdos👍🏻and i find it so great that an established artist like u is still experimenting with new primary combinations👍🏻👍🏻 This is a classic primary combination - burnt sienna, ochre, ultramarine... becoz these were some of the few earth pigments available to/ used by artists before technology made newer pigments possible😊So one finds this combination a lot in old illustrations and paintings (have u ever seen those fairy illustrations in old children’s classics??)😊all the best. Looking frward to more vdos frm u!

[@LironYan]

Thank you so much 😊😊🙏🏼🙏🏼 Yes - I became more familiar with it after making this video. And I know these exact illustration you talk about 😉

[@selahpaintco]

Loved the vid!!

[@LironYan]

Thank you ^_^ So happy to hear!

[@juliebergacker5680]

Awesome

[@rebeccapage4411]

I loved this video and palette and use a variation often. I prefer Payne's Gray (made with ultra blue and lamp black), transparent red oxide (or any PR101 with a burnt sienna color) and yellow ochre. Really enjoy your videos and happy to have found your IG :)

[@LironYan]

Thank you (: I hope you enjoy my IG too! The combo you mentioned is interesting combo as well. I love Payne's gray, but more as a stand alone color.

[@TerrieJohnson731]

watching this again- I really love my palette of these colors and it might interest you sometime. The box is worth the price empty Theo says. It is very beautiful and I am always reaching for it.

[@LironYan]

Thank you for letting me know, will look into that one (:

[@LironYan]

@Yasmine S. Hmmm, I'll see what I can do about that (:

[@ferdi5407]

This palette is not at all strange to me ! I use it very often because..... these are the colours of Africa and the bush particularly in autumn and winter. I feel so "at home" with the shades and combinations you achieved.

[@LironYan]

Oh haven't thought of that! I may try some classical African scenes and see how I feel about it (:

[@Donna_G]

I don't have Burnt Sienna or Sepia; but, if I mix French Ultramarine with Quinacridone Burnt Orange I can get reasonable substitutes. Also, I do not have Yellow Ochre; but, I do have Quinacridone Gold, which is a reasonable substitute. This was a nice demonstration. I also liked the painting that you did of the stone buildings on the island. The island is so good. Keep experimenting. You have a lot of colors. Just think of all the combinations you can come up with.

[@LironYan]

Thank you ^_^ Yes - I just now start to really explore different mixes - it's so fun!

[@pw6titanium]

Go to handprint.com and see examples of palettes with set colours. This combo would be useful in painting deserts and sand_dry area landscapes. You could add another 3 colours for more variation_ cobalt blue + french ultramarine _burnt sienna + Indian red _ yellow ochre + quinacridone gold...All very earthy. Juxtapose the blues against the yellows to look more purple. cheers

[@LironYan]

Thank you! It's actually one of my favorite websites, learned a lot there (: I now have quite a few combinations I like to use. will check back occasionally for some new ideas.

[@yuame]

I like your weird primary trio! :) Caput Mortuum would be a nice 'Red', too. I am currently enjoying the Prussian Blue/Raw Sienna/Caput Mortuum or Perylene Maroon trio... they make such nice muted and moody secondary colours.

[@LironYan]

Oh sounds lovely! I actually heard about Caput Mortuum (such a eerie name!). I'm curious to try it. What brand do you have of these?

[@yuame]

It's a unique name, right? I love both the name and the variety of colours. :) I heard that it was also the name for Mummy Brown back in the 16th centuries...which is rather fitting, haha. I've Lukas and Old Holland's - both are lovely, but Old Holland's is a wee bit more attractive to my eyes. I like Lukas paints, but sometimes they are too timid...excellent for glazing, though. I also make my own from pigment(PR101) - which is, ahem, the best one in the collection ;)

[@LironYan]

Haha (: Indeed fitting! I see. This actually really helps me. From how you describe Lukas, I wouldn't like them so much. I heard good things about Old Hollands so may try them.

[@yuame]

Glad to hear! Hope you like them(O.H.), oh, and Rembrandt are also excellent :)

[@pbasswil]

It is neat to see what's possible. The limitations of it are charming. I think I would stretch it to 4 colours - like, the 4 corners of an Altoids tin. :^) I'm thinking of trying: 1)NiAzoYlw PY150; 2)QuinBurntOrg PO48; 3)a cooler blue, maybe CeruleanChr PB36; and 4) a cool red - maybe as cool as DS's Bordeaux, PV32. For 4 colours, that'd be quite flexible; but still somewhat muted and charming.

[@LironYan]

Yes, that combo sounds REALLY charming. I think I even saw a similar primary "trio" in a website a while back, with that Bordeaux. I really want to try Nickel Azo Yellow soon as well.

[@crystalinedreams6039]

oh this is a great vid! great trio for a wet/overcast autumn day. :D i have seen a few wc paintings where the artist used just 2 colors (ultramarine and burnt seinna) and they came out very interesting, your color choices reminded me of that. the end of the vid had me laughing where you talked about liking your followers to be interested in your personal life. you do not know what you let yourself in for with that comment. lol i already told you i am very curious. :P

[@LironYan]

Haha, I remember you like to ask many questions (;

[@crystalinedreams6039]

lol my mom used to tell me i was too nosy but i don't see it that way, i am actually interested, plus i don't mind being told it's none of my business or that someone doesn't want to share that info. what does surprise me though is the number of people who are actually happy to find someone interested in them. :D

[@lurklingX]

haha ironically this is very similar to the 3 colors i ended up trying out from A.Gallo! (not a good one for greens, lemme tell ya). Jarosite, Ercolano Red, Azzuro. they painted very nice, but man i needed a green lol.

[@sandyheath1888]

Hello Liron, when you get time look at Jane Blundell's website, she has a great site with a few more very interesting triads. Jane also has 2 really good books on colour mixing. You keep your you tube site very interesting by varying your content.

[@LironYan]

Thank you for directing me there (: I actually came across her combinations when researching for this video! But will look into more of her work now. I try to vary everything as much as possible. Actually, the more videos I create, the more ideas keep flowing :D Happy to hear you enjoy!

[@TerrieJohnson731]

I's actually no small wonder- of all the prima palettes created, Decadent Pies was the most interesting and useful of all of them for me, since I have a few sets of traditional and bright colors already. I am more happy than ever to have it. It is 15 something on Amazon. I think you may want to have a look if you have not already!

[@LironYan]

Oh, do you refer to Prima Marketing paints? I've seen their tropical palette and it looks fantastic! (:

[@elsagrace3893]

But Prima marketing paints are best for crafters because there isn’t pigment info.

[@gasperettiarts]

Venetian red or oxyde red can be used in place of burnt sienna

[@LironYan]

Yes! I have a new Venetian red I can't wait to use (:

[@TheSgyro]

I find it fascinating that we all go to the same people when starting off😄👍

[@LironYan]

Haha yes, some channels are very prominent I suppose (:

[@gypsysnickerdoodle4354]

Have you looked at the Handprint site on pigments?

[@LironYan]

+Gypsy SnickerDoodle Yes - I mentioned it a few times on The Paint Show. It's an amazing resource 😁

[@heartchitect1960]

I'm still learning how to watercolor. Have you heard of the Mind of Watercolor? I love both of you.

[@heartchitect1960]

These are very beautiful earthly colors! So natural.

[@LironYan]

Thank you ^_^ I love TMOW too. Steve Mitchell is a great artist and a funny person! I learned a lot from him.

[@bastet469]

Doesn't seem like a crazy triad to me, especially since some paint manufacturers use Red Iron Oxide pigment (PR101) to make Burnt Sienna instead of (PBr7). In those cases, the paint leans more towards red than orange.

[@LironYan]

Yes, I actually learned this recently, as well as how popular this palette is. Coincidentally, I will publish tomorrow an episode of The Paint Show, that covers Schmincke's Burnt Sienna, which contains PR101 as well (:

[@kymrhymer]

yaaa

[@LironYan]

😊

[@marcusellenrichter]

wow! how clean is your palette??! ;)

[@LironYan]

Haha depending on the mood 😂🎨

[@melissajade30]

Hey from England xxxx

[@LironYan]

+Melissa Oakley Hi! 👋🏼 (:

[@scarz1951]

I've used it. Didn't like it. Too dead. Others like the landscapes I did. They sold. I don't argue with checks or cash. I give em what they want. I still don't like it. I made this comment a day ago. Had to come back and edit it. Something interesting happened. I was going thru some of my old watercolor magazines and in the autumn 1997 copy of watercolor magic is an article by Pat Weaver in which she uses yellow ochre, burnt sienna and ultramarine blue to paint several paintings. None, not one, of her paintings were drab or dull or dead. All were very lively. Excellent paintings. Not a speck of green paint in any of them. Made me wonder. I did some color sketches using green in some and left the green out of others. The ones without green were not bad while the ones with green were lifeless, drab, very bad. Now I know what to do with yellow ochre, burnt sienna and ultramarine thanks to an old magazine from 1997. Hey...one can find gold in the strangest places.

[@raosprid]

One I like to use, particularly for gouache or oil, is Yellow Ochre, Cadmium Red Light and Prussian Blue. Found a video using a similar palette: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJC4npd6o8mXpsk

[@LironYan]

Oh, sounds like a fantastic combo! I know James Gurney, his work is insanely beautiful. I love his style (:

[@robertweinblatt2018]

Looks like raw sienna

[@sarahconroy3634]

ZXV

[@bchaveztx]

oh yeah, time for a shave my man. Looking a little scruffy....not that there's anything wrong with that....

[@LironYan]

Haha, I think I'm going to grow it to Game of Thrones level this time XD I will go to a barber to organize it though.

[@bchaveztx]

Liron Yanconsky that's hot!

[@elsagrace3893]

Benny Chavez I think it’s nice. Not scruffy at all. Well groomed.