What Dating Was Like In the Victorian Era

[@mosquitobight]

"My dear, we have been engaged for five years now, so I wonder if we might start holding hands..."

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

Quite the opposite, once you did all of the vetting on your potential partner you didn't waste time. Most high society girls and women would be married within 3 years of their debut into social society (going to events, dances/balls). That's where the term "debutante" comes from (not sure I spelled it right).

[@theroadtocosplayandcomicco5840]

Well I'm a shameless hussy ... with my boyfriend by week 3 we were already kissing .

[@abbyb3582]

My, how forward!

[@sallylemon5835]

Nobody engaged for five years. After 5 months the longest, they would be married off.

[@BigAl2-u7e]

"Back off you harlot! Wait until we've been together for 10 years"

[@cseguin]

"Hooking up" in the Victorian era meant having tea with your boy/girlfriend whilst sitting on separate sofas in a parlor chaperoned by at least 2 adults . . .

[@kohakuhime7887]

My oh my how kinky

[@soul61296]

Better than being a fornicating degenerate.

[@precious1918]

@@soul61296 yup 👍🏽

[@dayangmarikit6860]

LOL, that was normal in the Philippines back then and seeing a ladies ankle is also frowned upon.

[@cseguin]

@@dayangmarikit6860 Thanks - you mentioned the words "ladies ankles" - now I've gotta go rub one out . . . them ankles get me every time.

[@julies3837]

“Neither party should try and make the other jealous” Sound advice that still rings true.

[@adaeptzulander2928]

In modern terms, don't play games.

[@GundamChief]

The reactions of both sides is also true.

[@laffin_out_loud]

If you want make someone jealous... you buy flowers for yourself and place a name on it.

[@laffin_out_loud]

Or maybe not even a name.

[@djterry1218]

YES

[@pixiebubbles2628]

Can we, like, bring some of this back? Modern dating sucks.

[@thunderbird1921]

Absolutely, some of it at least! How much better our society's virtues would be if we did.

[@joemtari]

I tip my hat to you

[@oliviaingram2406]

*tips hat*

[@julianreyes2849]

(Tips Hat)

[@whisper6388]

Dating in general is trasg

[@moseswilliams615]

“Maintain a dignified reserve” Don’t get too thirsty.

[@woden__]

Dont simp

[@treadlightlyorelse849]

Hey that translation make sense

[@josephinemarieclayton7254]

@@treadlightlyorelse849 Lmfao

[@alternateview8971]

@Harden Thicke you can be nice, just not with the expectation of immediate infatuation or satisfaction.

[@angelam5941]

That's amazing lmao

[@brendencampbell3082]

Back when you went to the Pub and bragged about seeing ankles.

[@RaniaHaid12]

LOL 😂

[@RaniaHaid12]

All comments are boring comparing to yours 😂

[@carolynw8614]

@@RaniaHaid12 I agree!! 😂😂

[@SWAGTACULAR314]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@eej1983able]

Lolol

[@MagicianFairy]

Women were encouraged to refuse gifts. A smart man who knew this would send empty boxes.

[@joesigl3022]

She lost her cherry, but she still has the box it came in.

[@Laura-Yu]

Well in that aspect, I have no class since I’m a sucker for free shit... so I’d know he’s lying 😂

[@blasianluvschocolate397]

@@joesigl3022 😂

[@maplecolor1]

Lol

[@realamericannegro977]

@@joesigl3022 😂😂

[@billybobjoefred]

me at night: hmm, i’m bored youtube: dating in the victorian era?

[@June-tb4vi]

😂 and here we are

[@iprobablyforgotsomething]

Your userpic makes this comment even better, honestly. x'D

[@milzzzw4416]

me rn 😭

[@Marybaklava]

Same here 😂

[@landlockedcroat1554]

yuh

[@GucciPucciMIH]

“So what happened today?” “I saw a girl’s knees.” “Godspeed Sir!” “Indeed.”

[@nebula541]

exactly but he would say 'a lady fair' instead of 'a girl'

[@theQueen.]

@@nebula541 why a lady fair?

[@nebula541]

@@theQueen. idk just a supposedly romantic/poetic way but it's also stereotypical, y'know, like maiden fair or lady fair

[@lsjt8924]

Why would he say "godspeed"??

[@GucciPucciMIH]

@@lsjt8924 because he’s gonna date her

[@Indiegirl007]

I actually find some of these rules to be quite refreshing. The walking closest to the street, helping her in and out of the train, not being too forward, being honest about his intentions. Like.....yes, I'll take this.

[@Hannah-zw9ow]

@Caramel Cupcake unless you’re dating a sex doll you don’t have to worry about whether we’re real or not.

[@reymichaelsungazornosa4040]

@@Hannah-zw9ow why date a doll when you can make a date in your mind

[@OMorningstar666]

my boyfriends still always walk closest to the street for me

[@L.M788]

@@OMorningstar666 same, except our reasoning in my family is different. In my family or the culture where I'm from or however you want to say it, men walk on the outside of the streets because of back in the day there would be Drive-Bys. It's for the women's protection.

[@_TSC_46]

YO WHERE DO YOU LIVE I WANT A TRAIN HELL YEA

[@surrealsunrise4436]

I didn’t expect to be surprised in a positive way... some of these things need to come back

[@pleaseparkjimininmygarage-6212]

i agree, i thought all the rules would be really extreme but some of these should be brought back

[@odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347]

@@pleaseparkjimininmygarage-6212 I second the motion!

[@elisabethfancher7483]

Yeah all except for the sexist ones

[@elisabethfancher7483]

Towards men or women

[@__-fl3yt]

I am a mexican in the 80 and 90 we still try to follow most this rules, they were a good sign if the person you were dating was a good prospect.

[@raya7277]

Victorian Era: Don’t give false hope or make a declaration in a jesting manner Now: Fake proposal prank/I love you video prank/ Telling my friend I want to date (her/him) prank

[@lepotato135]

True lol. I forgot that kids probably still do that for fun these days. Man kids are so mean to each other.

[@sharpaycutie2]

The fake proposals are only funny to couples taht haven't been togwther for 5 plus years

[@hannahsutherland5518]

Smh 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@RafaelHernandez-vx9ug]

Tiktok logic

[@Saskatchetooner]

This is only for the trendy people that are I’ll bred

[@michellemalan5228]

I like these etiquette rules. "Dont make a partner jealous, dont flirt around, dont toy with peoples feelings, dont be overly affectionate in public (to the point where u make others uncomfortable)..." Is it just me or does it seem like common sense has left humanity in our day and age? We tend to do the exact opposite as the victorian era encouraged people to do

[@JewelBlueIbanez]

It has

[@emilymalden3310]

Sometimes the rules were too strict, but some should still apply today, but sadly morals and class has gone downhill. I was a young adult in the 90's and already feel ancient. Scary.

[@sallylemon5835]

Our common sense did not left us just like that. We were brainwashed by the Illuminati, began with losing religion to slowly corrupts the society to this low grade. What are their tools? TVs and celebrities.

[@yunantheobserver6841]

It's because today, we people are encouraged to spread our wings and be free. While I don't have problems with freedom and trying new things, most people seem to forget the memo that freedom to try new things does not mean freedom from consequences.

[@marlonmunguia163]

@@sallylemon5835 I would say that it was the free-masonic libertine spirit after the French Revolution that was revived in the 60s. The same people who hated the Church and sought to destroy morality.

[@biitchstix]

Also I love how there are ppl who genuinely think abuse was just ok and acceptable back then. One of the rules literally tells women to leave if the man is domineering and quick to anger.

[@LareesieAlice]

I caught this too. Having come from a marriage like this, this advice would have made a huge impact on my then sixteen-year-old self.

[@hangukhiphop]

Great point! But keep in mind, definitions of abuse change over time

[@joobletmaster5000]

It encouraged this *before* marriage, not after. It also essentially said that, if a man were to "act out," or to behave in any cruel manner, then it was the woman's fault for provoking him. Don't underestimate the cruelty of the culture these people were living in.

[@lilygamingtheories1410]

Yeah but it still happened a lot

[@melissasaint3283]

@you know I am right pp ...You think most 40 year old women fatalistically think they have to stay with an abusive spouse? Are you....twelve?

[@DragonsOfSnow]

Many of these "dating etiquettes" seriously need to be revived.

[@Laura56to]

Not really

[@Ollie-Oh]

@@Laura56to if you're a girl, u would say no, no offense of course

[@kendob9642]

Not enough whites left, imagine thinking brown people have the self-control to adhere to these courtship rules LOL

[@kendob9642]

@@yodaoncrack325 does too

[@kendob9642]

@@yodaoncrack325 completely agree. You deny science when you claim that genetics don't affect behavior. It's disgusting and sad

[@katherinelewey5358]

“No kissing. But feel free to exchange hair!” Thank god I still can exchange hair

[@cristianna_jasmyn]

Lol

[@ploofydoop]

Let us know how to respect the Almighty Who sits on the throne of Heaven. Him Who is superior over everything. Using the name of God in vain mindlessly is disrespectful. It is holy. You can ask yourself this question, "Why do I take the name of the most Powerful God in vain to express an emotion?" The third of The Ten Commandments states, "You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain" (Exodus 20:7). Using "Gosh" "Jeez" "Gee" is also taking the Lord's name in vain because it is an alternative word to not sound offensive. But it is still wrong as it comes from a Holy Name. "God" and "Jesus"

[@ahaha5057]

"Not every young woman is eager to fall in love with you" SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE NECKBEARDS IN THE BACK

[@yashminjamal6517]

@The Absolute Madman ikr

[@sandsand9403]

@Thornback Because they’re horny bastards who, after getting into a relationship with such a woman, will then constantly berate her about her flaws and stare at other women because she doesn’t have the ideal “photoshopped” face and body.

[@azula9830]

lmfao for real tho

[@MrPek-fe9fp]

@Princetealu what? Thats internet cultures cornerstone

[@dudanunesbleff]

The fantasy on the back of most men's mind, maybe? Nowadays, there is the spin-off fantasy that every women is always eager for sex, regardless of who the sex partner will be. Some women believe it, too.

[@p.art4705]

A lot of this is genuinely sound advice. However, I'm sure most of them weren't really followed in real life.

[@kamilaganihanova5071]

This totally could be 21st century dating advice if reworded.

[@p.art4705]

@@kamilaganihanova5071 I completely agree. And it should be integrated...it sure does make a lot of sense than the advice people have been taking now.

[@bluesmurff6163]

Yes, and prostitute and bordellos were everywhere. Men might have been classy when looking for a while, but not all the time

[@tigercap100]

We'd be better to adjust the balance twd Victorian ways!

[@Native079]

I was about to say this!

[@kenebbepena9831]

"No kissing, but feel free to exchange hair."😂😂😂😂

[@dannma6019]

Only heads hair or ...??

[@nellom.8771]

Don't serial killers take hair as trophies?lol

[@colinp2238]

And bodily fluids?

[@dannma6019]

@@colinp2238 no possible man, remember they didnt have refrigerator back in the day

[@colinp2238]

@@dannma6019 They had ice

[@ChrysanthsMum]

Someone should start a dating app based on these principles. They’d be a billionaire. Not all people want to live and die in the fast lane.

[@warriormaiden9829]

I'd say sign me up, but I already found and married my gentleman. XD Don't give up hope guys/girls! There are people out there that still have standards, you just need to have the same high standards and keep looking. :)

[@vaderladyl]

There are dating coaches using these right now out there and on the internet.

[@vaderladyl]

@@warriormaiden9829 Exactly.

[@sunetrasaha7467]

Very true

[@QuietlyCurious]

Go for it 🤑

[@damedesuka77]

"If you really wanna get to know them, take a trip with them." That... is actually a very good advice.

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

My mother said that if I wanted to find out a man had a bad temper, then go on vacation with him. There's nearly always something that goes wrong when on vacation, such as a train delay or traffic congestion, and this reveals how that person deals with those annoyances.

[@XSemperIdem5]

You also get to see how they treat staff at various businesses.

[@thunderbird1921]

My parents actually did that when dating back in the 70s (though they stayed in different rooms, of course). Evidently it went well, since I'm here!

[@pondererofpointlessdreams5029]

"You'll _never_ guess what I saw today." "What?" _"Knees._ I saw a woman's _knees."_ _"No."_

[@Its_Me_Ashi_]

how vulgar ! tsk tsk

[@oliviarouse2361]

@Fred Forbes that’s because having sex before marriage is a very normal thing now but a lot of people still receive shitty sex Ed, and therefore when people do have sex before they’re married, they aren’t as educated on protection as they should be

[@bonniehowell4259]

"Gentleman, you would be distraught of the provocative act I recently witnessed: an ungodly woman engaged in exposing her bare ankles in a lustful manner outside of the direct vicinity of her approved chaperone during our approved outing". OP(s) : "Whatttttt?!?!?"

[@Basedhistoryenjoyer]

Lmao imagine if time travel existed and they saw hentai. They'll probably freak out.

[@user-xs1pp9oi5z]

@Fred Forbes maybe everyone doesn’t wanna follow the terrible old religious “rule”

[@Sarah-pp3ww]

My father always walked on the “street side” of the sidewalk. He said to never be friends with anyone who doesn’t follow this rule. Also, adults walk on the street side when walking with children.

[@staceykersting705]

Yes, my sons do that to this very day.

[@LuvCroissant]

Yes, my father taught us this. And when I was with my brother he'd make sure I walked in the inner part of the sidewalk. I didn't understand it, but I did the same if I was walking with my little sister or a younger person just from the taught-habit. To protect them I suppose.

[@Clara-uw2lb]

Personally, I like to walk on the outer side but if a boy takes it, I will happily walk on the inside.

[@-_leslielopez_-1619]

My brother does this to me and honestly I think it's kinda sweet lol.

[@IsabelMartinez31005]

Being a girl or guy is no reason for one to take the initiative to do this (in my book) but rather just out of courtesy for anyone you are accompanying out of curtesy/manners. I have done this with friends (older and younger), family (men and women alike), and acquaintances (formal and informal) 🤷

[@2244ntho66]

In reality, 90% of these still hold true. The other 10% on on a sliding scale of contemporary acceptance. Respect, communication, truthfulness, and honorability are timeless. If you actually practice them, they make all relationships healthier. It is odder that this is brought up as being "weird".

[@FurnitureFan]

I think in reality the couple had to get her parents' consent to marry, and then they were expected to be together for life, so it makes sense that they had to be trained to be civil to each other. Even if it didn't work out well, they'd still have the habit of being polite to each other.

[@beachie]

I suspect that this should really be titled "What Dating Was Like for the Upper Class in the Victorian Era" as the middle and lower classes probably had different behavioral expectations by nature of their standing in society. I'd love to see a video discussing the dating scene for the "normal" folk.

[@dinakisa1049]

I agree with you. Also the sources used in this video were books to guide one on dating. It doesn't portray what truly happened

[@missbraindamage]

Me too!!

[@mimislattery2264]

People are people are people. Generally people were more normal then.....not like dtf generation. Ugghh!!!

[@roxyd2066]

Well... I' m not from the upper classe but noticed some of these rules are up. I noticed men usually walk next to the sideway and noticed way before this video thant all my boyfriends (+ dad) sleep on the Side of the best closes to the dor...

[@roxyd2066]

+ good for women to be egal... Still feel like a... Let's say.... Love not exist. I' m an object for men' s pleasure. 😪

[@allthingshyper]

Let's be real here - a significant portion of these rules need to come back.

[@jaakkojuhani414]

All of em*

[@Nat-sj4nn]

Are you demi? I am too... I think that's why I agree with you on some of the politeness these etiquette books were talking about and being slow in dating.

[@FastForwardPlans]

I've no interest in being a disposable tool. But yes a few do.

[@Smooshes786]

If the rules were not gender bound, some are nice ideas.

[@rockstarofredondo]

@@Smooshes786 The roIes are different so the responsibiIities are different as weII. PerfectIy sensibIe.

[@xylinx4413]

that moment when you realize the Victorian dating scene was probably much more sane than the 21st century dating scene.

[@rihabsghaier7327]

21st century progression is a scam, i'd say we are regressing as human beings

[@hedgehogthesonic3181]

@@rihabsghaier7327 For sure, specially in the USA, California.

[@thunderbird1921]

In the last 30 years, western society has regressed in almost every way except in technology, and sometimes even in that. Materialism, instant gratification, narcissism and insincerity have almost never been worse. The old eras had their flaws, but MY GRACIOUS do we need to bring back some of the good elements from them!

[@thunderbird1921]

@@rihabsghaier7327 Truer words never spoken. Even the 1980s had better manners, virtue and honor in culture compared to the vice-enabling, toxic madhouse that we let the 21st Century culture turn into.

[@Noname-s1g]

Same

[@mizzymsp]

ladies literally all we need to do is keep emphasising that this behavior is really attractive. that will bring this back. we need this on a big scale, why tf are we just putting up with careless men who gave up on manners? now I understand this youtuber’s opinions on “traditional feminism”, why should we devalue ourselves and just put up with shitty treatment? we should always go for high quality men like this. I KNOW judging from how everyone is so positive about this, that you want this quality in men.

[@Lizzy128comm1]

PREACH

[@deadshotruby6667]

@@sofiasfae1846 Well... you're totally not being creepy whatsoever.

[@oliveryt7168]

I doubt you'll have much uccess with it. The world won't ever be like that. Society wants freedom over rules.

[@deadshotruby6667]

@@oliveryt7168 They're not really rules, they're really just manners and basic things people should know when looking for a relationship. Conduct yourself however you see fit, but there are ways to interact with people that'll make you seem respectful and well mannered, and this way of life was all that was.

[@janiceconnolly8740]

Maybe if people weren’t having sex on the first date and actually got to know each other, people wouldn’t feel so used and discarded. It seems there were more respectful ways to date in the Victorian era.

[@donitrix7073]

not gonna lie, most of these makes sense more than the dating behaviors nowadays.

[@DrDissent]

Please do more of these dating videos for the other time periods as well. This one was very interesting and I'd love to see more like it!

[@johnnalai7670]

Agreed

[@subpop74]

Yes please

[@antiantifa886]

Yes like dating in communist China.

[@johnnalai7670]

@@antiantifa886 Ya, quite a fresh idea

[@33dam00]

Agreed!

[@SweetLilWren]

There are many times in history I wish I could have visit/live in, but then I remember, no toilet🚫 🚽

[@TwinsBigLikeTia]

And worse... no toilet paper 😟 not to mention disease, filth and 1/10 chance of dying in childbirth 👍

[@Laura-Yu]

This, so much of this. And no internet.

[@JustSomeKittenwithaGun]

There were always toilets in alleyways, right next to the lepers.

[@AmyBlack1206]

Well there were toilets, they were just outhouses up and away from your house. Ugh. No inside hot shower either. I think I’ll pass. Lol

[@thunderbird1921]

Medieval castles sometimes had toilets, bizarre they took them out of houses in the centuries followed.

[@melindaweasenforth1206]

My husband was born and raised in West Virginia and until he ended up extremely sick and passing away, he held my hand and also kept me to the inside area of the road....we had 42 years together before he passed away... four kids, 16 grandkids and 6 great grandkids...we dated for four days before we got married he was my soulmate

[@Jaylalalaa]

Awww I'm sorry he passed away :(

[@wandamontgomery6030]

Aww I'm sorry for your loss

[@chrisj8244]

My condolences

[@selaniesanchez29]

Aww 😢😭❤❤❤

[@Ami-jc2oo]

Wait how did your marriage work? Give me advice. Please ma'am. (I'm a young woman)

[@pavementpounder7502]

The old definition of 'making love' actually makes more sense.

[@oliveryt7168]

Nowadays it's only s..

[@adrianmalmstrom2771]

Yeah, it’s kinda sad

[@notamemethememe589]

Truly sad how some words have their meanings twisted, such as with "touch" or even "daddy." I can't bear to call my dad that, even though I've done it my whole life, in public. It makes me feel ashamed and embarrassed when I shouldn't be.

[@Emma-zm1qn]

@@notamemethememe589 honestly... especially endearing words children use like "daddy" should never have become sexual. It's seriously disgusting....

[@Mannon777]

@@Emma-zm1qn oh come on how it's disgusting

[@PunkyPink85]

I was expecting these to all be horrifically sexist but was pleasantly surprised lol. Some of the advice was very reasonable.

[@michaelsantos8377]

Men aren't monsters lady.

[@Darkstalker212]

Lol That's back when chivalry was alive. Now it's about *equality* ..

[@12enriq]

@@Darkstalker212 And that's good.

[@sologrey1288]

@@12enriq till it doesn't benefit you.

[@12enriq]

@@sologrey1288 Why will not benefit everyone?

[@aarnilapsi9336]

I'm a history nerd and I fell in love with a guy who dresses like an Edwardian dandy. I probably should send this video to him. An update, it's been two years: I moved into a different city for university. I am an aspiring poet and he is as well. We're sending sonnets to each other now. :)

[@tiffanielafleur6597]

That's a little forward, don't you think? I mean, have you even exchanged hair yet??

[@caylinvance3569]

I’ve never seen such a beautiful love story ❤️

[@littlet7653]

@@tiffanielafleur6597 I just laughed SO much harder than u should have🤣🤣

[@xoose]

You'll make yourself look old fashioned if you do. This video is specifically for Victorian suitors, not Edwardian.

[@sarahsays194]

@@tiffanielafleur6597 🤣🤣🤣 That was good! Brava!

[@jl818a]

do i live in the victorian era? no do i have hours of overdue homework? yes do i need to know about dating in the past? no way do i have literally any reason to watch this video? no am i going to watch the entire thing? definitely

[@kathrynballstaedt2562]

Dude, literally exactly what just went through my head...its finals week and...I somehow think watching this is what I should be doing

[@_xxjust_indigoxx5445]

I can relate-

[@brooklynsmythestudentmhs7975]

hotel? trivago

[@kittyrabies]

Same except i live in the victorian era

[@hamiltonjames8255]

am i going to watch it multiple times? oh, boy you bet

[@njasanie23]

2020: *me trying to find a date in 2020* Covid 19 appears Me: *maintaining a dignified reserve 😳*

[@xxxacu]

😭😭😭

[@DeafLord18]

Just finished my masters and got my company running and was going to make 2020 my year to date. Hahahaha....haha...instead I just spent three hours wiping groceries so my mom and sister are safe.

[@AllisonWonderland101]

I had a bf for the first time in years and it turned out like the rest of 2020: intense, emotional, and traumatic. Lol I’m better off alone

[@AllisonWonderland101]

quan Brooklyn kid thank you!

[@romanovalicky]

🤣🤣🤣

[@shannonbuckley3631]

I rather be courted not dated, wish our era could learn something from this.

[@June-tb4vi]

I would settle for a man to help me carry my grocery's in

[@shannonbuckley3631]

@@June-tb4vi 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@yusefkhan1752]

“Never accept a gift”

[@Littlevampiregirl100]

remember some people dont want that, and there are no rules against it to do it the way you want, though it might require openly stating your wishes, or asking someone before a date if they would be up for it. i know it seems weird to try and 'dictate' how a date should be, but chances are the person is actually interested in doing it, too. its bad to impose a general rule on everybody like they did back then, not everybody fits into these rules or like how they work. today is fine, because everything is allowed as long as there is consent, and feelings and boundaries are considered. you can do it however you like it, if you find someone who agrees with it. someone could probably make a dating site or even role playing site out of it, if the need is large enough. maybe it already exists, i have not checked

[@sallycostello8379]

My dad always asked me to walk on the inside of the pavement when with him, for the exact reasons stated. He realised it was a hangover from the olden days but I could still get splashed from a puddle from a car. What a gentleman!

[@ivonribie]

aww your dad's so sweet and gentleman!

[@sallycostello8379]

@Jordan Edward o. That's so sad. I'm sorry you never got to know the love of a good dad, but maybe in this case you were better off.

[@sallycostello8379]

@Jordan Edward don't be angry. Maybe you were better off if he was involved in a gang. Anger will only eat away at you. You've got your own life to lead and hopefully your own family to build. Don't make the mistakes he did, be a good parent if you're not already one. Learn from his mistakes. 💕

[@otakumangastudios3617]

@Jordan Edward I disagree. I think as long as you feel angry, it's okay to feel angry. Let yourself feel those feelings, don't bottle them up. Just whatever feelings you have, whether it's loneliness, hollowness, sadness, or whatever, let yourself feel it. Now, I don't want you to dwell on them, cuz it will be destructive. I just don't want you to hold back your thoughts and feelings, for the sake of "health". just do what you need to do ☺️ And maybe, if you can, try to reunite with him a little bit, but maybe just visiting him, or talking to him on the phone briefly. It's good to have a father connection, even if it's distant or vague.

[@djterry1218]

Aww that’s sweet!☺️

[@ShanShan-sc5ze]

Aww I married a perfect gentleman - and thank goodness for that, there is no one else I could have survived the lockdown with.

[@sarahdoanpeace3623]

That’s so sweet!

[@chrissteinke5535]

🥳🥳🥳

[@Ami-jc2oo]

This is love ❤

[@sarahn.h355]

Watching this I realize my husband is a gentleman; he always makes sure I'm on the inside of the sidewalk when we're out on walks, he's very discreet so he doesn't kiss me when we're around a lot of people in public, he's never given me cause to be jealous (and vise versa because I very much appreciate and love him), and even when he was in high school- he didn't flirt with every girl he met. He's seen as old fashioned by all his friends and family, but it's why I love him. Dating doesn't have to be full of spiteful mind games and it's a great relief when it isn't! And the whole thing about overly flirting and how it lessens people- I've always agreed with that.

[@kerriwilson7732]

Sounds like you are well matched. I wish you both happiness. 🥂

[@RawrLyss]

I want that so badly 🥺

[@warriormaiden9829]

Same! My hubby has this adorable little 'grrr' that he does if I try and open my car door. Sometimes I'll start sneaking my fingers towards the door handle just to hear him do it. XD A lot of people have commented (quite negatively) on him opening the door for me, and both of us are in agreement. He doesn't do it because he thinks I can't open the door; he does it because he loves me. It's the little things that he does that many people deem 'old fashioned', even when we're alone, that he uses to show that he is paying attention to me and looking out for my well-being. And I try and do the same for him. And now, he's teaching our son to do the same at 5 yrs old. The kid looks so proud of himself whenever he gets the door open on his own (we have an older car with stiff handles). How could I take away that feeling of accomplishment and joy of doing something just like daddy, just because I'm capable of opening the door myself?

[@PotatoNuggetConsumer]

Ngl being respectful to the person you are dating shouldn't be seen as old fashion

[@thunderbird1921]

Great to hear. As a guy, here's another thing that I've noticed works over the years: DON'T start a relationship with flirting, EVEN IF you know the girl would enjoy it. One, it can look bad to others; Two, you want to be this person's friend, not just develop erotic feelings. Start with a simple friendship FIRST, if deeper feelings later develop, THEN do true romance stuff. You'll save yourself a lot of heartache and pain for both, OR know for sure they're genuine (would you love that person equally when they were 89 years old and full of wrinkles?). Of all the elderly couples I've had the wonderful privilege of seeing, I'd say 85% of the ones married 50 years or more began with this friendship, NOT with flirting. It's truly beautiful to see the love has not diminished after all those decades, and many call their spouse "their greatest friend".

[@allisonlucas018]

My boyfriend always makes sure I walk on the inner side of the sidewalk. At first I thought it was odd but it showed me how much of a gentleman he is.

[@dennisreyes6793]

I'm a girl but my mom taught me this too for my siblings. She said parents or the oldest sibling must walk on the outer side of the pavement when they're walking with their children.

[@Clara-uw2lb]

My crush is like that. An army brat who's absent father managed to teach him simple yet highly attractive manners. His looks don't exactly help me to not blush either.

[@annechristmas5796]

@@Clara-uw2lb army men really do have manners ❤️ I started to see a guy who leaves for the army in a few months

[@oliviarose6160]

You are Lucky 🍀

[@ivoryowl]

5:34 "A lifted hat. [purrrr]" I f*ing lost it. XD

[@satanswife2546]

Same damn it

[@returnoftheromans6726]

Lol, me too. Was definitely NOT expecting that!

[@loremipsum980]

Victorian era: *made various guides on how to properly ask out, date, and treat someone in relationships* Modern era: Fuck chivalry, etiquette, and guides for long-lasting relationships, I just do whatever the hell I want as long as my genitals get satisfied. (Honestly, sometimes I do feel like we are just evolving backwards lol)

[@planderlinde1969]

We make fun of the 50s and times like these but there was one thing they understood then that we don't now in the west Human Nature

[@DwynTwo]

That's...not how most long lasting relationships nowadays work either lmao most of the people you just described are looking for sex, not love. People who actually want love still follow the healthy advice. There's no need to go "Hurr durr back in the day everything was better!!!!!" Back in the day women were seen as second class citizens and abuse was okay while divorce was seen as the devil. You people see ONE positive aspect of an old era and compare it to ONE negative aspect of the modern era and genuinely think we're evolving backwards when we've actually made so many giant steps especially when it comes to human rights.

[@wouldyounot7971]

@@DwynTwosomeone had to say this

[@ffsake1361]

I was expecting some misogynist shit show. However Im pleasantly surprised and think some of these rules should be still observed today.

[@delancey3181]

It’s cause history classes only show the bad side of history not the good. And cause your incompetent....

[@ffsake1361]

@@delancey3181 Probably answering my own question by simply asking the question. But Im genuinely curious how you think Im incompetent? And yes history that is taught is rather cherry picked.

[@rubenaalexander5007]

I mean ignoring how Chelsea just being mean at the end, yeah, in history we just tend to see the bad side. Sure women had weird expectations...like only being allowed to shop all day, not talk to men and honestly, upperclass women sound like they had boring lives, but they also had some perks, being upperclass and all.

[@deadshotruby6667]

@@ffsake1361 They probably meant that because you went into this with a negative lense, automatically thinking that if it was any part of history, it's most likely sexist to women.

[@operaghosts]

@@deadshotruby6667 honestly though, if we’re being real, most history is and will be. It’s a very fair assumption.

[@heath6802]

“No party should make the other jealous” Valid advice, envy is a stupid waste of time for everybody involved and it only works in movies really, but that’s a movie, not your real life

[@faithmurai6803]

I was actually raised told that I couldn't date but could instead court. I actually don't regret being raised this way. Dating is more akin to just fooling around while courtship is more serious- you let the other person know from the getgo that you are looking for a spouse or a soulmate- not just a boyfriend/girlfriend- so you know pretty early on whether they are serious about the relationship or not.

[@kittysmith8321]

I absolutely love the...let your intentions be known immediately and don't give false hope. Dating would be so much easier😆

[@Ace_AloneWolf]

Many things in Jane Austen books make more sense now. This should have been subtitled "why Fanny Price got mad about the necklace and why Mr. Collins was really a jackass"

[@MsJubjubbird]

that was Georgian. Which is even more old school.

[@fannyyyyyyyy]

Thats my name :3 which book

[@midnitebottleable]

Mr.Collins was really a jackass

[@theroadtocosplayandcomicco5840]

I found my Mr.Darcy when I was 18

[@Ishbella86]

@@fannyyyyyyyy Mansfield park

[@soleilgonzalez8604]

I can just imagine myself cutting off a single curl, handing it to my crush and smile coyly as I board my carriage

[@djterry1218]

Aww😂💕

[@stephanienorthup9243]

😂😂😂

[@imzipperoni]

i love that

[@MIA07]

Lmao😂😂

[@xtashax]

Put it in a locket for him to wear around his neck until the day he dies, it's the equivalent of marking your territory 😭🤣

[@JoE-kx7dw]

When walking with my wife I always walk between her and the road. My grandmother told me that's how a man is to walk when with a woman.

[@JoE-kx7dw]

@Max Flynn Nope. Women now are either SJW or only care about their WAP.😆

[@yhiontop]

You don't act right because of your environment, you act right because it's right. It's about who you are not who the other person is.

[@EL-um6om]

My father never allowed my mother and I to walk on the wrong side of the road. He passed away a long time now, but I’ve never forgotten.

[@JoE-kx7dw]

@@EL-um6om sounds like he was a good man.

[@melg6834]

@@JoE-kx7dw NO. I'm a 90's girl ( born in mid 90's ). I already belong to a conservative society, although no one seems to follow such things in order to look "cool". I, on the other hand am very vintage at heart. Not only dating stuffs, I also like retro fashion and movies. I hate computers ( as a subject ) found it quite difficult ( coding 😅 ). Wish, I was born in that era. No scenario of weird SJW, pathetic fashion and java, python.

[@brittneystreeter493]

My Great Grandma was 16 when she met my Great Grandpa and he was 26 🤢, he gave her a bracelet while pursing her and her father said “you shouldn’t accept gifts from men like that they’ll expect something in return”, she responded with “he knows I don’t have a job, what could I give him?” Her dad wasn’t happy with her response. 😂

[@joku8519]

Why the puking emoji?

[@kannakye9359]

@@joku8519Age gap

[@joku8519]

@@kannakye9359 well I mean in my country the age of sexual consent is just exactly that,16. So as long as the other person is at least 16 I see no problem with 10 year age gap.Besides the comment implied that they ended up having children and forming a family(I mean obviously the person would not be writing this comment if they didn’t form a family) but still if all went well for them I think it’s little disgusting from the original commenter to refer with a puking emoji to his/her great grandparents,because without out them getting married and having children the original commenter wouldn’t exist so I think it’s kinda… disrespectful… even disturbing don’t you think?

[@Lou-li5mv]

@@joku8519 bro dating a 16 year old when you're 26 is a whole different story than dating someone who's 46 when you're 56. a lot of development happens during teenage years and adolescence personality-wise. one is a grown adult, one is barely more than a kid. in my eyes, dating somebody so much younger is exploiting them for their naivité. so that age gap IS concerning , no matter what legislation says .

[@joku8519]

@@Lou-li5mv tell me you’re from west without telling me you’re from west.

[@roseyturtle]

My father (born 1938 and now in his mid-80's) still walks on the curbside of the street, opens doors for women, helped my mother in and out of the car and takes her elbow when going up and down curbs or short steps. He instilled this in my brothers who, in turn, taught their sons. I think that it's not just a manners thing, but also shows kindness and consideration.

[@allim.5941]

In a few years there will be a video titled, “How Americans dated during the Covid Era”.

[@yishi.4466]

it would be online dating.. without meeting.. and if they do meet.. it would be big regret hours or it would be okay... you probably would break up during the online stage.

[@yishi.4466]

Lmao

[@SM-qv2om]

Trick question, you didn't

[@JewelBlueIbanez]

“She took off her mask and flashed him a smile while no one was looking.”

[@someidiot420]

it would be 0:03 seconds with the narrator saying *"they didnt!"*

[@HeyLady2319]

Giving locks of hair was a way of keeping a peice someone you love with you at all times. It is kind of romantic. Usually kept in a locket worn around the neck to keep them close your heart.

[@kostantinosvlasakakis4106]

oh dude, I love that. Wow I really wish that were common practice.

[@HeyLady2319]

I wish it were a thing still. Wonder why people stopped?

[@blazefairchild465]

I have a lock of my husbands hair ties with embroidery thread ,the curl is inside a picture frame of him from the 90s , he had a much longer hairstyle back then. Young & so handsome ❤️

[@thelcie]

@@HeyLady2319 because photography replaced the practice. Not everyone one could afford to have a miniature portrait done to give to a loved one, but you could give a little bit of your hair. :)

[@HeyLady2319]

@@thelcie that actually makes perfect sense. Thanks my dude

[@alydiaries]

Tbh, I like their rules. I think there'd be more successful marriage if many of these rules are still being practiced now. Also, I can imagine how polite people are in that era. We need more of that today.

[@kathleenking47]

Things may go on cycles We need more decorum.. Pre 1970s When I was a kid, I've always thought Making love was kissing It was in Hollywood movies until The late 60s

[@Jo_is_fine]

People in victorian era - we have more dating rules than anyone. Indians - hold my buttermilk

[@Jo_is_fine]

@Mahima Bhat I was mentioning abt Indians of this era😅

[@FarrahKeks]

I don't really get it. Could you please explain it to me?

[@Jo_is_fine]

@@FarrahKeks the video says that during the Victorian era had so many restrictions while dating someone. Here in India, still marrying the person you love is considered as an act of defaming the family members. They never support us to talk with the opposite gender or don't even allow us to hangout with our friends because they bring in a logic that if a girl go outside she may find a guy and fall in love with him. These stereotypes are still prevailing among Indians and that's why I compared Indians and the people who lived in the Victorian era in terms of dating and falling in love. When compared to the Indian stereotypes, these rules are much more better. Atleast they could date someone.

[@FarrahKeks]

@@Jo_is_fine ok

[@riyavaryani799]

My brother cousin has a friend who is a girl and she says that his son will marry that girl because they are friends and I was Chaachi!! Friend aur girlfriend mein bahut bada antar hota hai... Translation Aunt!! There's a big difference between friend and girlfriend..

[@coinsmith]

The advice about asking a man's permission before hitting on his wife reminded me of the old joke: "My wife ran off with my best friend. I sure miss him."

[@kerriwilson7732]

I thought a dog was man's best friend? Your wife didn't run off. She's walking the dog.

[@norakeuyeuy9527]

😂😂

[@brendencampbell3082]

This is so underrated.

[@asterisque9252]

XD XD

[@internetgorilla4231]

Whats lacking in 2020 is dignity. I'm going to start applying Victorian principles in my life.

[@darkcoeficient]

That is what I think about perceived social conflicts today. People do not think about the dignity of their fellow human or their own. Instead they force twisted moralities on them.

[@hectorhernandez945]

Me too👏

[@Ivessssssss]

Me three 👋

[@user-hn9ct7jd5m]

SERIOUSLY

[@jdouce6074]

Good deal

[@Nikanike0905]

I was taught by my parents to give the inner side of the pavement to a more vulnerable person, like an elderly or a child (even if only passing by). I think that is a sensible idea and to this day when I see a parent with a child, I move towards the curb (unless it causes a manoeuvre hassle, of course) to minimize the risk of an accident.

[@Ami-jc2oo]

What a nice gentleman/lady!!

[@funfings842]

i like this!

[@ImCarolB]

The key thing here is that we think of "dating", which is a concept mainly invented after the common use of the automobile. This book is about "courtship", the lead-up to marriage.

[@staceykersting705]

i'm older, and always expected a sort of courtship. A guy who expects instant sex isn't going to stick around. So clueless and classless.

[@Bolter024]

@@staceykersting705 Are you a virgin then ?

[@lazybeegina4590]

@@Bolter024 Is this a need to know situation

[@Bolter024]

@@lazybeegina4590 Yes

[@lazybeegina4590]

@@Bolter024 I'll call the police if you're being held at gun point

[@AZrakoon]

So dating has always been complicated, no surprise.

[@jesslabrunette]

Not really...it’s easy

[@AZrakoon]

@@jesslabrunette it's not easy for guys. We could do everything right and we still get dumped.

[@jesslabrunette]

@@AZrakoon yeah true but same with girls. It just depends

[@SlickNick98]

@@AZrakoon just dont be a simp and u will be ok lol

[@adamdavis4417]

@@jesslabrunette no offense, but if that is your real picture you are gorgeous, and you probably don’t have a hard time meeting people. I’m not saying falling in love or maintaining a relationship is easy, but a pretty face and an outgoing personality definitely puts you ahead of the game. Some people struggle with personality or behavior disorders or are just quiet or shy in general. If it’s easy for you, I wish you all the best. That’s just not a reality for everyone.

[@anarenee2817]

"maintain a dignified reserve" - should be used nowadays for every human being in our society, regardless of gender...

[@xtashax]

I want there to be an ITV dating show where singles have to go live in a country cottage and abide by these rules lmao

[@melfina2938]

I would binge that

[@tom-boii3156]

@@melfina2938 same

[@healerofthewaters6508]

To live in a cottage ALONE TOGETHER? With no CHAPERONES of any kind?

[@xtashax]

@@healerofthewaters6508 Silly me, how could I have forgotten the chaperones?!

[@ZRob23523]

I might actually watch a dating show if this was the premise lmao

[@j.r.863]

THE LOYALTY AND RESPECT TO EACH OTHER, BACK THEN... 😭😭😭😭

[@ghostprince9247]

“Mary! I swear!.. One of those creeps.. saw.. my.. ANKLES TODAY!”

[@cynthiagutierrez779]

*Faint!*

[@ghostprince9247]

@@cynthiagutierrez779 *fainting / swooning intensifies*

[@SilentGlaceon94]

Well, the nerve of him!

[@lonelyloner2655]

Well that dear is not expectable.

[@idlestrawr]

Oh my...

[@pfgbam]

M'lady. "tips fedora"

[@stubdteauzgautugaux]

NO 🤢🤮

[@JonW77]

Neckbeard has entered the chat...

[@WhiteBloggerBlackSpecs]

I got stage IV cancer from the comment

[@holeefuksumtingwong5788]

Are you sure it’s not “Me so horny!”

[@blasianluvschocolate397]

@@holeefuksumtingwong5788 or me love you long time 😂😂😂

[@skateboardinginthespace6562]

"Not every young woman is eager to fall in love with you." can apply to the women as well. No, I'm not hitting on you when I ask you "Are you okey?" I'm asking you because you just fell down from the second floor.

[@kdubs83]

😂😂😂

[@bluetickbeagles116]

I wish dating was still like this. Today just saying “hello” means sex is expected. 🙄🙄

[@jaredjones1752]

"Just saying hello"? I've heard of people who believe that if a stranger LOOKS AT THEM in public, it must mean the person looking is interested in them romantically. Imagine the narcissism it takes to believe that.

[@theskystarrangers7272]

Not every nice guy is a simp! How hard is it to understand

[@oliveryt7168]

Also, for the most parts there are no official rules..

[@reeses_unicorn]

Tell me about it...

[@kappadarwin9476]

@@theskystarrangers7272 True but it is the simps that speak the loudest.

[@faith7686]

Honestly, I am generally sad some of these are mostly ignored nowadays, what happened to give all your love to one person and one person only, what happened to opening and closing a car door or how about pulling a chair out for someone Edit: wow, I’m 18 and sound so old

[@Clara-uw2lb]

@Purplelitsky 13 and I agree with a lot (granted I do get mistaken for 14-15 lol)

[@thunderbird1921]

I'm 22 and I really do try to practice some of that etiquette still (especially toward the elderly). I just shake my head at how rude and crass some members of this generation are (both guys and gals). To my fellow young men: clean your language and thoughts up! Past decades may have had their problems, but there are definitely GOOD parts of them we should bring back.

[@lovelyish4946]

It still happens. It happened back then too. There were many toxic relationships back then, I mean you couldn't even divorce a horrible husband without being judged.

[@lovelyish4946]

Men had mistresses or would go visit prostitutes it just wasn't really openly talked about

[@warriormaiden9829]

There are people out there who still follow basic courtesy. Keep your standards high and you'll find them. :) My hubby has this adorable little 'grrr' that he does if I try and open my car door. Sometimes I'll start sneaking my fingers towards the door handle just to hear him do it. XD A lot of people have commented (quite negatively) on him opening the door for me, and both of us are in agreement. He doesn't do it because he thinks I can't open the door; he does it because he loves me. It's the little things that he does that many people deem 'old fashioned', even when we're alone, that he uses to show that he is paying attention to me and looking out for my well-being. And I try and do the same for him. And now, he's teaching our son to do the same at 5 yrs old. The kid looks so proud of himself whenever he gets the door open on his own (we have an older car with stiff handles). How could I take away that feeling of accomplishment and joy of doing something just like daddy, just because I'm capable of opening the door myself?

[@grapeshot]

And this was supposed to be the more civilized times that is until you start reading about all the debauchery and criminality they went on during the Victorian time period. Definitely pretty on the outside but rotten on the inside.

[@bluesmurff6163]

This way for "society", or high society, like bourgeois, and nobility. Common people couldn't read

[@MrKevinEaddy]

Oh boy... You are one of those.. Bro, you can find debauchery and darkness anywhere.. Doesnt mean its everywhere

[@grapeshot]

@@MrKevinEaddy no I'm one of those who knows that Nostalgia and make-believe Golden Ages can be very dangerous.

[@marcusinfinity9386]

A short synopsis of history isn't nostalgia.

[@MinaeVain]

Humans are still humans and the same criminality still goes on albeit very different. However, it is nice to indulge oneself on the more positive aspects of victorian society and compare the differences to today's standards. Similarly like New York is a lovely place to visit, but it's also filled with homeless people and vents that blow sewage steam on your face. It's all part of the package, the bad comes with the good. What you focus on depends on how you see the world.

[@mamaruchi54]

"No kissing just exchange hair" wow lol

[@ChefJohnWins]

Would you ever consider reading your titled segment transition screens for blind viewers? Also, for normal viewers that like to listen to Weird History while multi-tasking.

[@TG-pn3ul]

Yes!! I listen to these while driving and find it frustrating I don’t know the titles.

[@Laura-Yu]

This, please please!

[@Ilovevintage77]

Bind people are normal as those who see. You mean “sighted”. And That’s a really Great idea!!

[@TG-pn3ul]

@Bigfoot I’m blind to my phone screen when driving yes. Read the last line of his original post about multi tasking. I listen to videos WHILST I drive. No I am not vision impaired.

[@queenb1119]

@Mara Oliver WOW! Do you also have a problem with wheel chair ramps?

[@theguythatcould]

Just broke up after 8 years. The game has completely changed in that time period. The grind is real.

[@sashablueperson]

ugh same. This online dating puts us in a superficial hierarchy. can't even meet anyone in person anymore. I miss working a front desk job, best way to meet a guy, waiting for the printer to finish his documents.

[@noexcuses5524]

@@sashablueperson most of my coworker meet their partner in dating app. I think it is just pure luck.

[@adamdavis4417]

Same. I went a different route though. I looked up an old girlfriend and hit it off like no time has ever passed. Maybe that isn’t an option for everyone, but sometimes we/they can get a second chance and it works. The grind is real. Have fun and enjoy it as much as possible.

[@ale-xsantos1078]

Same here We already considered ourselves married and were going to move together Unfortunately it wasnt meant to be Im not as lucky as the other guy over there who said they have a fantastic single life, but I'm trying to be alright on my own, I know it's a rough path tho so I wish the best luck for everyone here who's going through the same thing

[@hambone4984]

My husband and I constantly tell each other "don't fuck up! I can't handle the dating game again." We just celebrated 11 years and I really don't like what options are out there lol My condolences to you and best of luck ❤️

[@nskfsr]

People these days are wild. I think these Victorian era etiquettes should come back to modern life. Nowadays it feels like manners only matter to women, men really don't care about women's feelings or follow basic manners. There is no proper flirting dating or anything, even a short single conversation with a straight male friend indicates signals for sex, even friends/colleagues ask for benefits lol. I sometimes wish I could go back to the times when you had to marry to have sex, ride a horse for miles just to have tea with the woman you love. Since it became way too easy to reach someone's bed, no one wants to marry until their thirties or at all. Today dating is a headache for religious or simply conservative women/men like me who want serious relationship which leads to marriage.

[@sitcomchristian6886]

Don't worry, just because the dating guide says it doesn't necessarily mean people were actually following the guides. Don't compromise on what/who you're looking for! Better to hold out than to settle. We can't go back in time, but you can keep your integrity.

[@artfullyanjali]

@@sitcomchristian6886 agree with you. Honestly look up Victorian hypocrisy. They had a ton of rules but men had easier time not following them than women who were constantly in their houses and couldn't leave it like their husbands to go see a prostitute yet maintain a noble image.

[@mizzymsp]

yes I’m kind of conservative too, I don’t know why. I would consider extra stuff only if I know I will marry the man. but even then I don’t have any hope at all that marriage will stay in place... I was discussing manners with my dad and he agreed with me, but he was raised pretty traditionally in boarding school.

[@amariafrosty4696]

I couldn’t agree more.

[@laylascott6096]

It goes both ways with manners. Women play games too. I did for years. Online dating has really, really turned dating into something very strange. Almost like a game. I expected to be horrified by this video as I consider myself a feminist but I really found a lot of this refreshing.

[@eydie57]

Years ago, in the 60s, Art Linkletter asked a young boy why a man always walks closest to the curb when walking with a lady. The little boy said, "so the man gets hit by the car first."

[@meggiele5603]

Men back then were actually way more thoughtful and considerate. *We need to bring back dignity!*

[@mikaelgaiason688]

Women back then were a lot better too...

[@DreamBelief]

Lol depends who you were. We like to remember the good parts, and conveniently forget the bad, like the rampant homophobia, racism etc not everyone was treated so nicely

[@ehhhhh596]

Same as women...

[@thunderbird1921]

Don't worry, some of us younger fellows still do have integrity and etiquette best we can. I actually wish men would treat EACH OTHER better, not just ladies. I've seen way too many cuss-out quarrels and fights in my lifetime over issues that ultimately mean NOTHING. A sporting event is JUST a sporting event. Furthermore, not every person will agree on big issues, and guess what? That does NOT necessarily make them bad people, so stop always vilifying them. Respect all around is so desperately needed in today's culture.

[@hailey-rosevintora6211]

And This Comment Triggered Men Lol. So I 100% Agree With You

[@greghanson407]

Of course, people were people, and weren't always behaving themselves. I've done some research for 1890--1910 . I found some articles admonishing young ladies to not have pictures of themselves taken in various stages of undress to send to their boyfriends, as the photographers always make copies of the pictures to sell in the saloons. I would say that would be the Victorian version of sexting. Naturally, there was a significant amount of illegitimacy as well. The papers of that era have numerous articles of Miss so and so charging Mr so and so with seduction and bastardy. At that time with no DNA testing or even blood typing, a man so charged would have to prove that he 1) didn't even know the woman 2) was nowhere near her at the time conception would have taken place 3) that he had been in the hospital or under doctor's care at the time. The main tactic was to smear the woman's reputation by getting several other men to come forward to say that they had had sex with her and that she was a loose woman. If the court found the man guilty he was usually ordered to pay $2 a month until the child reached age 18. If the child had already died, he was usually ordered to pay $100 to the woman for having put her through pregnancy, birth and death of the chold.

[@nathanengelhorn9562]

What’s a Chold

[@greghanson407]

@@nathanengelhorn9562 child

[@kl2894]

My great, great grandmother got herself knocked up in the 1800s in Denmark. When he refused to marry her, she took him to court. It took seven years, but she won.

[@NoName-pe5sx]

@@kl2894 Wow, I'm surprised your great great grandmother was even allowed to take the man to court (considering the fact that back then, in some parts of the world, women did not have the same rights that men did). However, for her to actually win after seven years of fighting just shows her strength and determination. Thank you for sharing her story!

[@ValerioRhys]

@@NoName-pe5sx If her grandmother was in the middle east, perhaps it would have been a different story with a bad ending.

[@redefinedliving5974]

I love these rules and social etiquettes. Hope these are still around, keeps things mysterious and exciting!

[@noobie7719]

“To accept a gift would encourage ANOTHER.” I’m not seeing the drawback! 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@turdferguson9923]

A proper gentleman would do good to politely pass on you my lady.

[@kakarroto007]

*"Maintain a Dignified Reserve"* is old school social distancing.

[@adaeptzulander2928]

Social distancing should never be normalized.

[@dididogster9994]

@@adaeptzulander2928 social distancing should be normalised. I want everyone at least 1 metre away from me.

[@howtubeable]

No, you are wrong. Social distancing has nothing to do with being dignified. You're grabbing at straws.

[@adaeptzulander2928]

@@dididogster9994 A meter is only about 3 feet. That's OK. But walking around afraid to touch people or surfaces is sign of mental illness.

[@jonsnowight9510]

Pretty much all the advice here is good and should still be followed today.

[@emilymalden3310]

True, even centuries later, some things will never change. But a lot has as well for the better and worse.

[@Meh-sn5kj]

**corpse bride fans have entered the chat**

[@ireallyneedtherapy1126]

*Remains of the Day intensifies*

[@Meh-sn5kj]

@@ireallyneedtherapy1126 he forgot to mention the vows *with this hand, i will lift your sorrows. Your cup will never empty for i will be your wine. With this candle i will light your way in the darkness. With this ring, i ask you to be mine*

[@Menacing_Jade]

Thanks for the nostalgia

[@Kevin-pp7ut]

A wedding, a wedding, we're going to have a wedding!!

[@Meh-sn5kj]

@@Menacing_Jade best movie ever

[@merindymorgenson3184]

One of my previous boyfriends always used to gently maneuver me to the inside of the sidewalk and take the street-side sidewalk half. It always struck me as remarkably gentlemanly. Which makes sense because, while he was not the one for me, he was (and presumably still is) a remarkable man.

[@Ami-jc2oo]

Your a respectable lady!

[@caidalee1994]

My dad still walks closer to the street whenever he’s walking with me or my mom. It’s such a sweet gesture, showing that he’s always protecting 💗

[@treadlightlyorelse849]

The carrying of the bags by the man is surprisingly still in use to this day, practiced begrudgingly but still a form of endearment

[@djholliday4413]

And, opening doors!! My husband and sons open doors for me, and ANY other woman...and hold it open for anyone walking in behind them. What happened to this gentlemanly courtesy?? I've seen men straight up let the door shut in my face, in public. Their mama didn't raise them right apparently.

[@deboralee1623]

¡quick, somebody quote the "bags" line from _Young Frankenstein_!

[@20PINKluvr]

My bf carries my bags when I shop. He insists

[@blitzkrieg2928]

@@djholliday4413 based

[@djholliday4413]

@Caramel Cupcake we know we CAN...but we shouldn't HAVE TO...am I right??? I don't need a light from a man when I burn my bra, but common courtesy is appreciated lol.

[@stulog]

The part about traveling together to finds out what someone is really like is so true, even today. Spend a few days together in someplace unfamiliar, and you will know exactly what your significant other is actually like!

[@itsnumber232]

Literally half of this is what dating truly is supposed to be like

[@marissa_btsarmy8982]

I laughed at the one about the man being shot or disgraced if he ever made his intentions unclear and I thought about my exes and those who seemed to like me

[@missstripedsocks]

We need to bring back whatever cowhiding is into the 21st century dating scene lol

[@randomcat6228]

My mother and father taught me a lot of these values. #1 being to not accept gifts from men I have no intention with. And boy I learned the hard way how true that was.

[@davidgonzalez-herrera2980]

RandomCat Bruh I just had a flash back and yes it’s true, one should never receive or give.

[@randomcat6228]

@@davidgonzalez-herrera2980 Ah yes... The give part is true as well! 👍

[@crownedmelaninqueen]

My grandmother says nothing is free. So if you accept something from a guy he will expect something in return.

[@brendencampbell3082]

Is A tWAp.

[@aditisolanki6667]

wow i didn't expect it to be so respectful and just amazing!! We want these back immediately(well atleast parts of them)

[@roelienfaber3505]

Imagine living in an era where romance is alive. Now romance is a fucking instagram post (if even).

[@massetozacarias5693]

well at least we have feminism...

[@Gothicc_senpai]

@@massetozacarias5693 thats what killed romance...

[@Anaconda315]

​@@Gothicc_senpai yes how dare women have rights?

[@Gothicc_senpai]

@@Anaconda315 women like u should have none

[@joan9650]

4:06 "Be Ready To Act The Knight If A Lady In Your Company Is Attacked" Then it proves that Jonathan Joestar is really a gentleman and not a simp?

[@herzen9857]

He seems kinda like an ass at first but then you realize he's actually a pretty good guy

[@kennywright1021]

Too surreal as I'm listening to this and literally swiping right on a dating app. I don't call that irony.

[@theguythatcould]

Ya, since that wouldn't be ironic.

[@punkybrewstar83]

You can call it what you like, but the dictionary definition of irony is completely different.

[@adamdavis4417]

I like that we still call swipe right a “dating” app.

[@dvm9336]

Just coincidence

[@deahalis7933]

make sure to actually use this etiquette when you find a match

[@kaylenbowlby2786]

Bring this advice to a lot of people in the modern era please!!!!

[@seekingeudaimonia6884]

I really liked the no acceptance of presents as to not give bad ideas. Such a huge problem to do is men feeling “friend zoned” aka entitled to a woman’s body just because someone did a few niceties or offered kind friendship. I’ve even had a boyfriend in high school, that wanted or felt entitled to my virginity because he bought me lunch every Monday. I broke up with him. I do not accept things from people to this day for fear of having anything misconstrued. A gift means you expect nothing in return you do it because you want to. My body is not worth Japanese food no matter how good.

[@MsKeroseneLamp]

"Which makes sense, if you're going to hit on a man's wife, you should at least let him sign off on it." I think it'd have more to do with making it official that you weren't going to hit up on her as the husband would be aware that his wife was at another man's house to avoid the bs the rumor mill often caused. Just a simple "sir did you know wife was at his house the other day?" can still cause all sorts of trouble.

[@kendob9642]

Why would a woman ever be at another man's house unsupervised?

[@quanbrooklynkid7776]

@@kendob9642 😅

[@skyden24195]

There is a scene in "The George Burns and Gracie Allen Show" in which Gracie arrives home after receiving an unexpected car ride from the neighbor, Harry Morton. In the scene, Gracie rings the doorbell of her own house so that George answers the door. After answering the door, George asks why Gracie rang the doorbell (a question Harry wonders about as well,) Gracie answers the question saying, "A woman should always be sure that her husband is home before inviting another man in. Not that I don't trust you, Harry, but you never know what the neighbors might think." (Season 8, episode entitled "The Accident.")

[@kendob9642]

@@skyden24195 she prolly just got finished giving harry some road head.

[@whiterabbit-wo7hw]

Some girls nowadays would call you racist or sexiest. But I still open doors, not only for my wife, but for other women. Men need to respect womanhood more these days. And women need to expect men to be more gentlemanly and not let them treat them like they're a prize, but a human being. A daughter of God.

[@Laura-Yu]

I just... open the door to everyone behind me, I thought that was a normal polite thing

[@justacommenterno.7700]

@@Laura-Yu tbh me too even who's younger than me.-.

[@ambycakes]

holding the door politely for someone behind you is fine but going out of your way to open a door for some random chick is a bit weird to me if you're married.

[@tanberetO]

Simp...

[@ayabaheera]

@@tanberetO It's called being a respectful gentleman.... Calling someone that just because he believes in treating women respectfully says heaps about your character.

[@waterandafter]

Don't accept gifts is still a good rule. Even today when a man gives you something a good many of them expect something (usually sexual) in return.

[@Wakara101]

Some of these etiquette rules should be brought back. For both genders

[@thunderbird1921]

For sure, as a guy I've seen WAY too many girls just use men to get what they want or at least make the relationship tilted one way. Of course, my fellow men ABSOLUTELY need to clean up their act in some ways as well (such as their attitude and ESPECIALLY their language, for graciousness sake!), but I long for days when more couples actually cared about each other MUTUALLY and were willing to at least try to be there for each other whenever possible. It's awful when guys are told to just shape up, shut up and not express pain (sometimes because the girl doesn't want to hear about it). Even many of the most powerful men in history (the good ones) showed emotion many times.

[@warriormaiden9829]

'Happy spouse, happy house'. Those are the words I live by. Seems to have worked, 'cause my hubby and I have been married for almost 7 now with no fights. We've had our disagreements, yes, but we have never fought. Takes effort from both sides to make a good relationship thrive. :)