Fabfilter Pro-Q 4 - Worth It?

[@alphaomega6062]

A thoughtful review not a hyper or a hater. That is why I love this channel.

[@tehillimmusic]

Love the review, love the way the sun just slowly creeps in more to cover your whole face by the end haha

[@WeissAdvice]

Meanwhile I'm now completely blind.

[@tehillimmusic]

@@WeissAdvice good thing youre amazing at mixing with your ears and not eyes! Haha

[@roberteismann1929]

When you use resonance suppression in Pro Q 4, that particular band goes automatically to linear phase.

[@erhanmusician]

ProQ3 + Soothe + Sonnox Claro + SSL X-Phase in one plugin. I consider it a worth upgrade

[@tipipulkkinen]

Thank you for a very realistic review!

[@markholding3954]

Hey Matt, haven’t read the comments so maybe others have already mentioned it… spectral mode/ resonance suppression is automatically linear phase for that band…. Also, the instance list, especially in full screen is an amazing feature which will def speed up most people’s workflow… once they get the hang of it .. cheers mate.

[@deanmasi6684]

I thought I was crazy for feeling like the only person to say the sound quality of previous Pro-Q plugins sound a little bit (trash)???? Not total trash (they were always pretty good), but compared to the Softube Weiss EQ1, you definitely hear some distortion. It's just not as clean and doesn't stand up the same way. I was really hoping that Fabfilter would finally update that aspect of the plugin. I didn't do a null test like you did. However, when I compared the Pro-Q3 to the new Pro-Q4, I actually feel like I hear a positive difference (an upgrade in sound on the Pro-Q4). Maybe my ears are playing tricks on me. Overall, I'm happy with this new iteration from Fabfilter!

[@fescolfaro]

I agree entirely about Q3, really good workflow but not the best sound.

[@JordonBeal]

Something I noticed between the PQ3 and PQ4 is that the self-noise in PQ4 is much, much lower than PQ3, and it's definitely *very* noticeable in the Natural Phase mode. That's seems to be why it won't null all the way down to digital zero, but it does null basically low enough to not matter, IMO. I kinda of agree about the saturation feature. I was excited about it at first but I think they missed a trick by not allowing you to control saturation per-band, and maybe giving you a few more saturation options.

[@BlakRevolution]

That will be in pro Q5 😊

[@andadaymusic]

Great non-hyped review. Thank you! According to the manual the spectral EQing in Pro Q4 is always using linear phase processing. The mode you choose in the bottom bar of the plugin only affects the non spectral bands. To me the plugin is overpriced especially considering the upgrade price is more than the new price of Toneboosters’ Eq Pro which does so much more (in areas that are more relevant to me) and just a little less in some other areas.

[@WeissAdvice]

Ah, that makes sense. I wasn't sure if I heard a difference or was imagining one.

[@hcl8836]

60 € is overpriced for the new features? The spectral mode alone would be worth the price for me. 😊

[@andadaymusic]

@@hcl8836 Including taxes it’s almost € 71 for me. I realize it’s personal. If the spectral processing is important to you, I reckon it’s a good deal. I own sooth2 and I don’t need it so often that I would pay for the convenience to have it in my eq. Robbert van der Helm’s excellent spectral compressor is even free. But to me it’s really the comparison with EQ Pro from Toneboosters that basically combines the functionality of Pro Q 3 with Eventide’s Split EQ and Sonible’s Proximity EQ, all for less than the upgrade price from Q3 to Q4. EQ Pro doesn’t have a spectral mode so still there isn’t that swiss army knife eq that does it all I guess.

[@andadaymusic]

@@hcl8836 Including taxes it’s almost € 71 for me. I realize it’s personal. If the spectral processing is important to you, I reckon it’s a good deal. I own sooth2 and I don’t need it so often that I would pay for the convenience to have it in my eq. Robbert van der Helm’s excellent spectral compressor is even free. But to me it’s really the comparison with EQ Pro from Toneboosters that basically combines the functionality of Pro Q 3 with Eventide’s Split EQ and Sonible’s Proximity EQ, all for less than the upgrade price from Q3 to Q4. EQ Pro doesn’t have a spectral mode so still there isn’t that swiss army knife eq that does it all I guess.

[@andadaymusic]

@@hcl8836 Including taxes, it’s a higher price for me (around €71). I realize it’s personal. If the spectral processing is important to you, then I reckon it’s a fair price.

[@SitWithAnkit]

Predictive mode was always present in Pro Q. They just added UI for the same in v4.

[@darkmaer]

I would say the draw mode would be less clumsy if you have an art tablet, which is literally designed to draw. I could see the mouse being a little on the clumsy side. I have an upgraded yet, but I do have an art tablet so I’ll probably give it a shot more than a couple times I’m sure.

[@tendingtropic7778]

interesting, getting closer to the competition now, is there any reason to go for oeksound bloom anymore?

[@nickmessitte1721]

The one click mid parametric is really tripping me up tbh. A very big change if you’re used to working with it every day for years and it NOT doing that lol

[@edstokesmusic]

Great review!! Thanks for this!!

[@idreaminstereo7802]

I’m curious about the other algorithms, Linear Phase is supposed to be modified I’m not sure about Zero Latency or Natural Phase

[@bemay8010]

cool thing I started playing with is when there's too much of and uncontrolled low end, shelf down and use the spectral option upwards lightly with faster attack, kinda tightens it up

[@WeissAdvice]

interesting idea. I didn't think of using spectral mode as a boost.

[@vizionaryrecords]

It's worth it for me with an education discount!😁

[@kendallmasterssank369]

At least i can substitute Soothe

[@Ra_Sharpness]

Sold proq3 license for more than what I paid for it. It's definitely worth it cause I can always use proq3 owning proq4

[@nickmessitte1721]

While I’m blowing up your comments section lol - all pass on a parallel bass distortion track (the kind of thing that emphasizes the aggression or cut of the bass) can come in quite handy for preserving the low end when you sum the two tracks back together

[@WeissAdvice]

nice

[@thegroove2000]

So just another EQ then that's not required do you agree?

[@WeissAdvice]

On the fence but leaning toward worth it.

[@thegroove2000]

@@WeissAdvice Thanks fella you enjoy it.

[@schnuus2006]

To make it short: Yes. Ok bye

[@WeissAdvice]

Yea, but why not listen to me say it for 16 minutes LOL

[@YFEmaxi]

❤❤

[@fabiorubato9434]

Stripe man, stripe man. lol

[@Wizardofvoz2]

Hard pass for me. I love Pro Q 3! You can achieve all the new stuff here with plugins you probably already own.

[@EricPeelMusic]

But Pro Q4s spectral dynamics are linear phase, which is ideal. Soothe 2 isn’t.

[@Wizardofvoz2]

@@EricPeelMusictruth. But I’m just not so sure it’s worth the $80. lol.

[@WeissAdvice]

@@Wizardofvoz2 that's the question - is it worth the price. I feel like $80 is right on the board. $70 is yes, $90 is no LOL.

[@MetalSnakeMT]

First 🥇

[@ericiverson8379]

😏

[@nickmessitte1721]

DMG equilibrium has all pass filters fwiw

[@WeissAdvice]

Right! I thought there was one out there that was somewhat well known, just couldn't remember what it was.

[@airplaneboop]

First

[@teeziet111]

All these new eqs do the same things .