How does Wire Feed Speed Effect Your Weld? | MIG Monday

[@thebrothers3971]

I like listening to this man. He is easy on the ear and is not in your face. Good info, thanks.

[@1959Aeroflyte]

First time seeing one of your video's. Spoke right to the topic I was seeking information about. Love the fact you did not waste time with fluff commentary as so many KZbinr's do. Great video.

[@neoc03]

I love this channel!!! All the videos are simple and to the point. No rambling or talking about unrelated topics. Thank you for making these.

[@SMOKYY_DA_BEAR92]

I look at older people giving you education like this is priceless so many years of work he's like a wizard with wise words

[@bigalt2078]

Excellent tutorial on mig wire speed.. straight to the point with a thorough explanation of outcomes and best of all - no gibbering on. Thanks mate

[@MagaRickn]

Excellent video! First thing I learned was the 'wire feed' number is 'inches per minute'! I purchased a Harbor Freight Titanium Multi Function welder and it has 3 knobs. Voltage, Wire Speed, and Amperage. I guess so you can fine tune it. I'm welding up an old set of headers and keep burning through. Looks like I did just the opposite of what I should have done.....I turned down the voltage and wire speed. I think I will go see if I turn down the voltage, and turn the wire speed up, maybe that will help?? Fun learning new stuff! Fyi, I'm 73. ;)

[@angshumanbhattacharjee7317]

Sir you taught much better than my professor. Your earlier videos were also very informative and easier for me to understand. Your explanations are very detailed, thorough and simple to understand even for a layman. Thanks alot from India.

[@jonarbuckle1560]

Fantastic lesson. Ive spent so long (YEARS) absolutely in the dark on this issue. This is the stuff the cranky old timers at work guard like its a cure for baldness

[@dannypatrick8671]

Thats to funny...I have been welding for over 50 years and still am....as well as producing first article parts. assisting younger fellows with blueprint reading and mentoring the apprentices. I have no secrets and train as best as possible...when an apprentice becomes as good as me I take it as a compliment to my training. Yes there are a few cranky old welders like the ones who trained me...but they are all gone now. If you still have a few of the dinosaurs that do not share information make it your ambition to become better than them....keep learning!

[@jonarbuckle1560]

@@dannypatrick8671 You're a rarity and a treasure. It's always confused me why some people find giving easily supplied help to others to be such a bother. You don't even have to be a "good person" to get joy from knowing you've made someone else's life better . Never stop teaching/learning !

[@dannypatrick8671]

@@jonarbuckle1560 I am fortunate to work for a proactive welding/fabrication shop with very low quantity products mostly for mining, freight transport and military. never a dull moment

[@10wjlaudio07]

I've learned over the years to bring them beer and snacks every so often and you'll learn it all. I'm 23 years deep and hold a few of them closely.

[@tradkid82]

Great to see someone doing a video about this. So many people I’ve run into are convinced that voltage = heat. Great video! Doesn’t get any clearer than that.

[@leonardpearlman4017]

Well, the settings interact then, don't they? If you have more voltage there's got to be more power, eh?

[@charlescarabott7692]

When you increase the voltage you have to increase amps or wire speed no?

[@ronniemaclaine5234]

@@charlescarabott7692 it depends on the thickness of your wire if you have a thicker wire you have to turn up the voltage because the voltage is the push and there's more resistance with a thicker wire

[@adamschmidt4387]

they really go hand in hand together i tend to pick my wfs(based of material thickness) and adjust the voltage to make the bead shape uniform they both have to match somewhat if you turn up your voltage so far you also have to turn up your wire speed in turn producing more heat

[@Kamukix]

Excellent description sir, this helped me quite a lot 👍

[@Jeff-rk8hq]

Dude at 2:57 that’s a nice weld man i gotta step my game up

[@georgesimpson3113]

I still come back to this vid every so often... I forget stuff or keep learning more from it.

[@barefootbandit1]

Wow I just learnt so much from that one video I never did understand wire speed.

[@stormman8393]

Learnt more from that than any welding tuition. Thanks Paul.

[@shawnharvey7706]

I'd really like to see this done this some flux core self shielded NR 211 would be interesting

[@stuartgeller7937]

Great video. It has saved me much time trying out different settings on my everlast to figure it out with trial and error.

[@ShainAndrews]

Increasing wire speed also increases amperage. 6:31 You can see the penetration and heat affected zone differences.

[@Mikey-ym6ok]

WFS isn’t amperage

[@anindan51ahah]

Thank you sir for your simple but conceptual video.

[@fredsmith6160]

Great advice. I'm just getting back into welding with my everlast mig welder.

[@a.bakker64]

Nice clear and calm explanation.

[@leonardpearlman4017]

I like what we're doing here in general, it might be that 100 inches sounds good but is a big change! As opposed to something like ten per cent or five per cent at a step. I've been doing this kind of thing myself, and recording the result in a notebook for later. Don't have a lot of data yet, but it's already been very helpful! SO, for each machine and setup ("MigSonic, .030" wire, Ar15CO2" for example) there's one page, and a grid, a graph looking thing where one axis is the voltage and one is wire feed. So, it's a picture of all possible settings for your machine. Now, when you try one setting, that's a point on the graph, right? So, you can put a mark there if it worked or not... or a LETTER say, and then there is a comment down below like "C- way too hot, burned through". I got this idea from a book about MIG welding process control. What we're all looking for: Apparently on this grid, there will be a region where you have good working settings, with low spatter and so on. NOW you can look at that, decide how much power you want, and sort of go right to it, even if you can't remember the last time you used that setup, or even if someone else took the data! That's the real idea, I want students to do this.

[@dasdas5007]

You are the best to explain so simple and so clear thank you so much

[@jaysamarconmilan7805]

Thank you sir. Very informative. More power to the channel.

[@vtbhanukiran1231]

Beautifully explained. Thank you very much.

[@billthompson9595]

Thank you very much for allowing me to learn from your excellent expertise......keep smilin!

[@MrMrWrench]

Great video with important information and understandable results. Thanks.

[@markbroad119]

My understanding is amps do the digging in where the volts do the puddle width.

[@Madmoody21]

They say the wire feed speed is akin to amperage. It really is not a bump in amperage directly. It would be interesting to see a bit more scientific data like putting an amp meter either on the machines power cable or on the ground lead. Then change things. I really would like to see the gun put onto a beetle (cutting track for gas) or some sort of removal of human variables and an amp meter attached.

[@cooliodiablo6117]

That’s literally what he says in the beginning of the video basically...

[@leonardpearlman4017]

@@Madmoody21 This channel has at least one video like that, where they use a "Bug-O" machine to carry the torch. Jody Collier's channel has some where he welds on to a pipe turning in a rotary positioner, which give you a few seconds of steady welding and is easy to observe.

[@Jonnieboard]

Good instruction Paul. Thank you. I have been trying to weld a steel/zinc bolt to a steel bar and have trouble getting a strong weld. Is the zinc a problem? Should I have chosen a pure steel bolt? This is for a project making a coat hanger.

[@X0X0LFertilizer]

Sand the zinc off at the weld with a flap disk or sand paper , take your time to get it nice and clean and send it , go gentle and tack it first with small tacks to set it in place as best as possible , than send it with your preferred settings . I would go a little lower on the wire speed to get better control but ; by lower I mean just a hair to avoid damage to the threads or warping. Having a coating line zinc , despite it being very thin it will fuck your welds up . Another option is to go ahead and wire brush the bolt or torch it until red hot than wire brush it if you don’t have a flap disc . This will absolutely anneal the bolt and ruin its case hardening or what ever heat treatment was done to it ; thus making it prone to damage and much much softer. I would just gently flapdisk it taking care not to overheat it - so gradually with a bucket of water or oil to cool the bolt. If you can clamp it down firmly or be like me and other lazy fucks alike and just hold it down while you tack it in place with a welding glove on to protect your fingers and hands. Galvanized metal coating needs to be stripped regardless of what the application is; you don’t want to breath that shit and you don’t want to weld it without proper cleaning as this will result in ; like you experienced a shitty weld . I highly recommend a respirator for welding galvanized as well a keep your mind on where your face is and the distance so you don’t get caught in the smoke . Once or thrice won’t hurt ofc but be cautious shits nasty

[@rubenstarq14]

hi,, dont get me wrong like the video but its a stringer can you show us how it comes out when you zig zag it ? to show penetration and bead profile? thanks take care

[@nicholasblancett8665]

I’ve done a lot of polishing for materials science research but I’m relatively new to welding. I’m finally upgrading from the harbor freight flux core my dad got me when I was 15 to a Hobart handler 210mvp. My question is how far down do you polish before you etch. I’ve gone down to .1 micron on a few samples I’ve polished but normally only down to 1 micron.

[@denniswilliams8747]

That machine shows a definite amp change with the different wire feed speeds. This must make the machine more forgiving. Other machines may not show as much difference. What changes would bring you into the spray arc area.

[@leonardpearlman4017]

Generally different gas, much higher voltage (longer arc) and wire feed (more power in general) as far as I know. I only did this once, in a class at that. It used a lot of power and was intense!

[@bruce7873]

I’m confused when you say it showed a definite amp change. The machine showed 19 A for all three welds. The only thing that changed was the wire speed.

[@royster3345]

Great video again, I think the recommended settings gets you in the ball park, but you have to adjust for the conditions. Is the piece flat on the bench taking away heat or raised up so it will run hotter. Being new to this, I'm still in the learning phase, I cant look at a job and rest on experience to adjust the settings. But the test piece you did I've done to check settings how it will flow, before I work on the item.

[@austinocchialini3914]

How would the lower wire feed speed penetration compare to the recommended settings if you allowed the bead to build to the same size?

[@_high_plains_drifter_5079]

Would the same apply for gas shielded flux core welding?

[@cobrastrike5793]

Thanks for the info. Very helpful and very much appreciated

[@GiovanniGiorgo]

This man should be America’s shop teacher.

[@rapunzeleh546]

i'm thinking maybe my feed speed might be my issue.... bought a Horrible Fright el cheapo welder about 10 years ago and never used it. finally got it wired up in the new workshop, out of the box, cranked it on and.... CRAP! looked more like when you put a few drops of water in a hot skillet - sort of spattery... but when i stop the weld, i always have an inch or so of wire sticking out, so thought the feed speed was too high, so down.. and down and down to the minimum... and messed around with the two switches... got some really horrible 'almost weld' looking lines. so will have to crank the wire up and see. thanks for the vid... might have at least pointed me in the right direction.

[@ericl2969]

I'm replying late, but here's a thought. Most "cheap" mig welders are gas-less and use flux-core wire. Though I have no direct experience with this, I've seen a few videos now that make a point of the fact that the proper polarity for flux-cored wire is opposite of that used when set up for gas. I've also heard that the majority of these cheap welders have nothing in the instructions explaining this. Further, I've heard that it is exceedingly common for people to get terribly crappy welds with a cheap welder using flux-core wire, they blame the welder and quit or buy a better one, when simply changing the polarity would have solved the problem. On cheap welders, usually one must reverse a pair of cable connections inside the lid or inside the machine to change polarity. I bet someone here can help you out with this, but off the top of my head, I can't remember which polarity is which for gas and no-gas, respectively. I only MIG weld with gas and solid wire so I don't need to remember.

[@Ashoud_Anobetah]

spectacular video ... really well done

[@kenpolukeTheREAL]

I’m curious because I’m new to welding. What gauges is considered to be thin?

[@mamedvaifov2460]

I have a problem when welding I’m not a pro but got a new welder at the body shop and have hard time with voltage. The problem is It drops and rises without me changing it. Can it be something to do with a power source or breaker? Have had similar issues with old welder but not as drastic.

[@hughmorgan4949]

Great video kept it simple

[@richardrichard5409]

Great video thanks for the upload

[@johnmacmillan627]

Once again, thank you

[@user-lf7en6rf8m]

Fantastic thank you so much. Right where im at 😊

[@capitanvonchickenpants8492]

What difference does inductance make?

[@Mikey-ym6ok]

Fluidity. 0 is very wet and fluid 100 is not so wet and freezes quickly

[@georgetrujillo106]

Excellent short sweet to the point

[@stevanmorty1]

my mig welder as no wire speed setting , i am very new to welding , so do i have to play around with amps only, theres only one nob and thats for amps , is there any way of slowing the wire down, form the spool wire.

[@leonardpearlman4017]

I think you will see if you turn the knob (while machine is running) the wire speed WILL change! That's what the setting is doing. Volts are more or less fixed, wire speed is fixed, amps varies a lot! I have one machine that has "Amps" setting, but it's just bad English I think. If it was TRUE, the wire feed would be some kind of servo, and the wire speed would change noticeably say if you varied stickout a little.

[@craigkeller]

My wife gets so upset when I quench in the vanity sink... how do you get away with it?

[@robertqueberg4612]

Craig Keller , We do not know that he has survived that short cut. Momma may be at the dentist in a panic over the black flakey stuff that she thinks she spit out. When she gets home..........! I did see a guy drop a torch cut piece of angle into a fiberglass laundry type sink. By the time he remembered the water, the piece was going down the hole that it had melted. OOOOPPS!

[@Mikey-ym6ok]

It’s called grab your balls and do whatever you want. A wife is a wife not a mom.

[@jamestboehm6450]

Be nice if you compair dual shield to gasless fc and hard wire. There are those of us who use dual shield every day. Mig weld is gravy work, run 045 1/16 or 3/32 dual shield. What about spray transfer w/ER 80s d2. There are those of us who do certified work on more rigorous material.

[@Brando5858]

What model that welding machine?

[@fmxq8]

Can I use c25 gas with flux core wire on mig welding ??

[@Welddotcom]

+fmxq8 If you're going to use flux cored wire, there is no need to use any gas. You are getting now advantage out of it and are basically throwing money away on the gas.

[@leonardpearlman4017]

That would be "dual shield" or "outershield" kind of wire, "Gas-Shielded Flux Core". Lincoln says not to add gas to "innershield" or "self-shielded" wire, which messes up the flux system and makes trouble they say. You should change wire. It's nice, by the way! Lots of power, good looking bead, slag comes off easily. Self-shielded welding is hard to love, I think.

[@johnmacmillan627]

Thank you. Exactly why is amperage increased if wire speed is increased?

[@leonardpearlman4017]

This is kind of fundamental! You SET arc voltage, and the machine tries to hold that voltage. Current is varying. Stickout can change amperage, long stickout has more resistance, voltage is fixed, Amperage drops. If you push more wire (within limits) the voltage tries to stay the same, and it just takes more current to burn more wire. You can only go so far with this adjustment! You really want to look at some graphs to make sense of this.

[@ericl2969]

@@leonardpearlman4017 Could it be that there's also an averaging affect going on? I'm thinking that with a slow wire speed, there are longer gaps between moments of short-circuiting (because it takes longer for the burned-back wire to re-extend close enough to arc again), and with a higher wire speed those gaps between the arcing moments are shorter. The effect would be more current flow with the gaps being a smaller percentage of the operating time, and that would average out to higher amperage, and more arcing events per time results in more heat being produced per unit of time. Now, I'm just speculating but this is what makes sense to me. After all, if the wire speed were so slow that you could hear the individual pops of arc and burn-back, the current during THOSE MOMENTS should be the same as at those same moments for faster wire speeds, but with the very-slow wire speed those moments occur less often and so less heat is produced (and less total current flows since the circuit is "off" a large proportion of the time).

[@JetDriver1111]

Great video..thanks ! Nice job !

[@robolama9851]

what is the wire diameter, i can understand that amps changes with the change of wire feed speed, is it vice versa i mean if manually i change the amps does my wire feed speed changes

[@Welddotcom]

wire diameter was .030 if I remember correctly. MIG welders generally have a WFS control, which controls amps, and not an amperage adjustment like a TIG or stick welder would.

[@robolama9851]

Weld.com Now currently we are having a semi auto welding machine to weld heavy duty brake table to web, SPEC: W.D = 1.2mm Amps = 280 - 300 volt = 28 - 32 fixture travel speed = 750 mm/min Base plate thickness = 4.5mm... i want to implement 1.6 wire diameter and increase the travel speed of fixture to get more productivity.... is it possible

[@woodshome11]

Well done sir, thanks

[@alekrudy5993]

Sir, thank you very much for your good explanation (and for taking care about us.) Though, your explanation is not totally excellent. It is really important to tell me as a viewer what exactly gas you are using in your great videos (what % of CO2), but you did not tell us. I welded with both, with pure CO2 and with Argon/CO2 %15 (and Argon/CO2 %10), that is why on videos I can easily tell the difference between welding with pure CO2 and with Argon/CO2 mix. I cannot tell the difference between welding with 15% and welding with 10% CO2 though (without a few attempts and tries at least... I remember the story when employer did not want to give a pay rise to his welders and on the day of the test he gave them a slightly different gas mix into their manifold... They all failed the test, everyone of them. I think it is nearly impossible to pass our Canadian CWB MIG flat test on 3/8 plate with our usual Argon/ low CO2 mix. To get 1/4 first beads (requirement), I need to use 19 volts. But this way I do not get enough penetration along the corner. If I go high with voltage (28.5V), I cannot fit 3 root passes with all the stops that are required. So testers usually allow welders to go with only 2 passes instead of required 3 passes. I passed with some other tricks (either with preheating when tester does not see or with excessive removal of the back plate.) Sir, would be very nice of you if you make a video on which settings to use and how to pass our Canadian CWB test (flat, with back plate, bend test). And for which gas mixture those settings would be valid? I is realy easy to get a good penetration with pure CO2, but nearly impossible with Argon/CO2 mixture... I challenge you: you will not even pass that test yourself :)

[@ayebee1207]

Alek Rudy; You know way more than I do. I once knew a man that got a job welding tanks for Aerospace. When I had a car project. He did all my welding. Arc and oxy acetylene.

[@ayebee1207]

There is a video of a journeyman brazer using nitrogen gas while fusing very specific code regulation, copper lines for refrigeration. He is old too.

[@franciscojavierhernandezme5889]

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[@raycrazyraysplace4472]

But did you keep the same amps

[@Mikey-ym6ok]

There are no amps.

[@jackduplechain7592]

I keep getting bird nests...any tips?

[@wizerd2089]

Maybe a burr in your tip? Replace tips often/as needed. They are pretty cheap compared to the time spent trying to clean tips all the time. Or perhaps the tension on the spool is not properly set, too loose or too tight? I am a beginner just under 1 year experience but I have found less birds nest with new tips

[@efrengomez9058]

Y que planta es la que usaste?

[@aguilayserpiente]

Efren Gomez en esa escuela usan los Esab Rebel modelos 215 y 235. El maestro parece usar la 235ic.

[@raghavsood6156]

What if i just simply wish to weld two metal pieces together? How much wire feed speed shall i use to join 2 parts together and voltage?

[@howtofixstuffchannel8348]

Awsome!!

[@drumtwo4seven]

Excellent

[@4040pmora]

No mater what adjustments I make I can never seem to get my mig to weld as clean as my stick.

[@ronniemaclaine5234]

If you using 100% carbon dioxide you never will you have to add argon to get a cleaner weld

[@Word569]

Thanks.

[@zulmahsi4447]

Can sir teach me use mig no gas

[@jamjammaranan7078]

For sale: Wire feed speed measurement device.

[@VypaGaming]

I'm just a learner. I wanna know why welding has to sound like frying bacon? Why does the voltage and speed have to match? I wanna weld traveling my hand at a higher speed but I don't wanna blow through which will happen when I turn up my voltage asswell so why can't I just turn my speed up and keep my volts the same?

[@melgross]

I miss Paul. I hope he’s enjoying his retirement.

[@baladar1353]

Maybe you could do a real wire feed speed test with a machine that's not changing amperage automatically together with wire feed speed.

[@sumilidero]

its not changing amps automatically, amps change cuz the different property of electric circut that is dependent on wire feed - more wire - less resistance and thus more amps. MIG is voltage controlled process so machine only keeps voltage constant, current depends from wire feed speed by natural.

[@jeremydoblinger3609]

amperage is raised with wire speed.and its goes down when you turn it down..basicly amperage is based off wire speed..voltage is not amperage when mig welding.

[@melaniew77msn]

Balad`ar Machines like that are a thing of the past. What you describe is how the first mig welders were made. Those machines took far to much technical knowledge to set up properly. Many welders made welds that looked good but were very weak due to lack of fusion and penetration. The first real engineering step to solve the problem was to make amperage and wire feed turned up and down on the same knob. You then had pulse machines where you could get back to tuning on the hertz, back round current and inductance. Even all these improvements lead to the auto set machines where you just select the thickness of the metal and sometimes even joint design. Now some machines are even so advanced you set a dial to the size wire you are running.

[@user-mt9tn1ni4g]

LOL he goes to the nice bathroom sink to cool his weld plate!!??? I just usually dip it in the dogs water bowl.. or pour some beer on it.. or throw it in the toilet..

[@Mikey-ym6ok]

Cause he’s man and a man does what he wants 😝

[@ayebee1207]

What I learned? I will never get a cheap HF entry level machine again.

[@joybabi9287]

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[@paulg444]

I love it. However I dont think the penetration difference would make a mechanical strength difference at all. All of the welds had great fusion.

[@guitarsevenstring]

Rus. Индукция лучше глубже проплавляет.

[@danielzunigagutierrez6300]

Moama Is not going to be happy if you keep using her sink to wash your messy work pieces.

[@TheOfficialMelendez]

What the fuck as that taking it to the sink You kidding me?!? Get a quenching station Jesus fuck 😅

[@dontblameme6328]

Earring? WTF?