Well That's Vintage... Badvent 2024 Day 15

[@killakylv]

You know what would have been better... Maybe showing us the picture of the bottle. 😂

[@robertharper2158]

Proof that shit up. If it comes out lower, concede the point. Fair is Fair!

[@trackvol]

It came out as 94°

[@mattschmitt9924]

Is the rule to guess the proof or guess what proof the bottle says? I think Sean gets the point.

[@Ona1000]

Agreed

[@RichardPalmbergDDS]

Dusties should be proofed. Clearly there’s evaporation if it’s dropped 7 proof points from the bottle statement. Sean gets a point

[@bwalsh1105]

Also could have been contaminated by water from rinsed glass (unlikely as they probably use fresh glasses) but certainly some saliva even a few drops is proofing it down. Also if this is the standard, they would need to go back and proof every one again to see if they were accurate.

[@Ona1000]

@@bwalsh1105no they wouldn’t. There hasn’t been any Dusty’s that they’d need to proof.

[@bwalsh1105]

@@Ona1000 my point is that any bottle could have lost some proof to evaporation since the proofing process until the bottle was consumed by them. even a 5 year old bottle may have proofed down even 1 point could be a difference maker

[@chrispankey807]

That was a fun one. Garvin, you're the man.

[@mustangautox5376]

Glad you guy us liked it! Cheers! I just need to stop myself from drinking the last bit I have left too fast…

[@rmac52]

Given the unique nature of a 43 year old bottle, I think Sean gets the point. But I don't think Dan deserves to not get the point either. I think it should just be a wash.

[@garyfranchy7726]

Sean can get the point for proof if Dan gets a point for calling it out as a dusty. Also, Brandon gets 200 points.

[@BatchAndBloom]

That’s the turkey decanter I have. It was incredible.

[@RunFreeRyan]

What a cool story to accompany such a soecial bourbon

[@MidnightsDawn]

Both should get a point for proof imo. If it had only dropped a couple proof points nah to Sean but it was a full 7 proof under its bottle number lol. Not fair to take Dan's point though,

[@daveperfetti2802]

Gotta give Sean the point!

[@ryanparker4775]

For sure get the point

[@SamsWhiskeyBar]

Point for each on the proof however Sean was correct. Calling a dusty…Bad ass! Banger Badvent!

[@camb0]

What a sample! Sean gets a point or Dan doesn’t get one.

[@BaneOfXistence4]

For it to count as a point, you guys have to proof every sample and base it off that. That would be the most fair.

[@Blackrobs734]

Give him the point!!!

[@toddtrent1973]

Sean always trying to steal a point 🤣🤣

[@J240RB25]

Gotta agree with Sean on this one. He should get a point. But I think Dan should keep his point, as well.

[@erichartnett41]

You both should get the proof point

[@PhilAwrye]

Sean earned a point. Lets face it.

[@Brian_D.]

God forbid Sean is down a point on the day we’ve got to bust out the proofometer. 🤣 granted he was correct but rules as written it should be proof on the bottle, that way 25 samples don’t need to be checked

[@travisrobeson306]

Dan like riding the "pine" so I hear....😂

[@billslone242]

Fuck yeah I have a 1981 Lore decanter

[@billslone242]

Mine was crystal clear in clarity and no cork degradation whatsoever

[@KingCobra66]

Well, now all samples need to be proofed...

[@lawrenceramos2468]

Point for Sean. Dan should t lose the point either even being 6 off.

[@malthus0016]

Give the man a point

[@WigWagWorkshop]

Here for day 15

[@andykleschick2047]

Also Dan- you sure about your call on the lead from day 1? Sure about that?

[@godfreygayle4603]

Gotta go with the facts…flip the proof points earned for today. 😂

[@davidgibbs2751]

You can't just say whatever you want and then say with all due respect. Sure as heck does!

[@Valath]

so you proofed it it went down to 94 mean Sean geta point and Dan doesnt cause its not within 5!

[@francisrizzo1529]

And the 5yo only-child antics continue. We're all grateful that Dan already had little kids so he knows how to put up with that behavior...

[@BradyMordhorst-i3n]

Sean thought it was michter 10 so he should lose 5 points. Then give him one point for proof. And give Dan five points for knowing it was a dusty. Then minus one for proof.

[@brandon_sprague]

Gotta go with proof and age based on what it says on the bottle.

[@brandon_sprague]

Because you’ve never proofed a sample before, how many other samples were different in proof or incorrectly proofed based on label and you’d never know. Have to play it as it lies.

[@woknred1910]

@@brandon_sprague Thems the rules

[@CocktailSavant]

First

[@andykleschick2047]

Real proof now shouldn’t count as a point imo. Proof should be off of what it was bottled at, especially on dusties

[@mattschmitt9924]

@@andykleschick2047 but how do you guess at how much an unknown has changed?

[@andykleschick2047]

@ for the sake of points in Badvent it shouldn’t matter. Proof on the bottle (which is legally required on the label when the whiskey was bottled) should be what matters. If you’re going to say that the real proof now of the whiskey is what matters, then you should be proofing every sample to see if it’s changed as that could affect scoring

[@mattschmitt9924]

@@andykleschick2047 I agree they could proof all of them, but one would guess that recently government proofed bottles should be accurate to a point. They're guessing proof of what is in the glass not printed on the bottle. Unless rules state guess what the bottle says instead of guess the proof. Really, it's not going to change my Christmas either way.

[@brandon_sprague]

@@mattschmitt9924it’s all based on the label. Always has been. Or else we would have proofed every sample to verify. Without blowing up a distilleries spot we have proofed a bottled we just got from them. It was 3 points under the stated proof. I just think some places reuse labels.

[@mattschmitt9924]

@@brandon_sprague I didn't realize it was legal to lie on labels. I also wasn't in the room when they came up with the rules. I only heard what they said when they said "guess the proof" they didn't mention the proof on the label. You were obviously there and know more.

[@dmh0985]

Sean shouldn’t get the point. It’s like if something is age stated under 6.5, but you’re able to find out that barrel was actually older. It’s based on what the bottle says or you can question every answer.

[@ghostshipmurmurs7917]

The point is to guess the proof of what you're drinking, not what is on some label somewhere. Dan refusing to give the point here makes zero sense You don't have to question anything that you can't verify (ie, what the age is on a batch we cannot possibly find information on). But if you have a proofer right there, why not?