Well There's Your Problem | Episode 151: The Cuban Embargo

[@lillybean730]

lmao did the guy who got pinned delete his comment?

[@welltheresyourproblempodca1465]

yes

[@welltheresyourproblempodca1465]

sometimes public shaming works

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

Fuck, I missed it.

[@Skullair313]

What did he write? We must know

[@lillybean730]

@@Skullair313it was something abt not enjoying all the politics in recent episodes and wanting them to go back to talking abt bridges falling down or something along those lines iirc (my memory sucks)

[@spirieo]

I can't believe the Activate Windows logo sat through 4 hours of this. What a legend.

[@mjorn19]

That logo is a certified member of the podcast. It can never leave no matter what.

[@Shredderbox]

The Activate Windows logo and Devon are the real MVPs of the pod.

[@xxplosive656]

It's a trademark of the podcast at this point

[@Deimonik1]

Windows Activate logo actually contributed 10 slides and an hour of dialogue to this episode.

[@katarjin]

I have that right now, I rebuilt my PC and can't be arsed to buy a code.

[@codemonster8443]

"This isn't even the longest one in the hopper baby! " Devon you sweet demon.

[@PanAndScanBuddy]

Devon is clearly an angel to edit a podcast episode longer than 4 hours!

[@toppersundquist]

BE NOT AFRAID @@PanAndScanBuddy

[@jjcc8379]

I feel ashamed to admit I didn't trust Devon. At most i expected Meh, it will be a +15m longer episode. A 4 hour blockbuster episode. GOD DARN

[@bossbeartherock6034]

I bet it's Katrina

[@Grizabeebles]

I don't know Devon's exact process, but the poor fellow had to listen to Rocz sneeze on probably four or five separate audio streams, adjust the audio balance AND do a bunch of cuts because everyone would have immediately started talking over each other. Poor guy must have listened to that one sneeze hundreds of times. Thank you for your service and dedication to your craft Devon!

[@origulator]

47:28 "I'm gonna have to gloss over a lot of stuff because otherwise we'll be here for like 4 hours" wah-wah

[@sethshaffer681]

I'm down in the comments section because I wanted to post this😭

[@iemgus]

I was surprised Devon didn't comment at that point

[@dezmondsunflowerviii8396]

Said moments (hours) before disaster

[@nigor42]

Don't check the time stamp

[@H_elios]

4 hours? A guest? You spoil us.

[@jalapenofarts]

🥵 THE HOGS HAVE BEEN FED!

[@PandorasFolly]

Squuuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Begins squealing wildly

[@mjorn19]

Us hogs are not worthy of this bountiful feast.

[@srwapo]

😱😱😱

[@xmlthegreat]

On the one hand it's 4 hours but on the other hand it's Noah and his voice always clips the mic a certain way that drives me mad.

[@Flibbityflob]

re the ICJ ruling - it's had a genuine effect in at least one way - i've been doing work with japanese communists and one of the things we've been protesting is the partnership with itochu corporation (which is one of the country's biggest corporations) with the israeli defense corporation elbit systems. well, just the other day, itochu announced that they're ending their partnership with elbit, because of the icj ruling. it's not the biggest victory in the world, but it's one we're beyond proud of.

[@Flibbityflob]

also, if you ever want to do an episode on the absolute disaster that is the Japanese electoral system, which is an unabashed disaster created by the American government and a bunch of fascists, drop me a message; I'm a japan-based anthropologist who focuses specifically on the right wing - I'd be happy to do an introduction to the hot mess with y'all (and help with the Japanese pronunciation)

[@cosmicnoir]

@@Flibbityflob Is there anywhere we can see some of your work on the Japanese right?

[@joeneedstosleep]

​@Flibbityflob I'd listen to an episode on the Japanese political system but you should know as well as anyone that podcasters are physically incapable of pronouncing Japanese correctly

[@Bobbias]

​@@Flibbityflobthat would be awesome. And it would be nice to have someone on a podcast that can pronounce Japanese correctly (it's not even that hard).

[@sethshaffer681]

@@Flibbityflob Does the Diet need to go on a diet.

[@AbsolXGuardian]

My funny cuba embargo story is that when travel restrictions were lifted during the Obama administration, one of the reasons was for religous trips. Now the US goverment couldn't explictly say it was intended for Protestant Christian missionary work, so my synagogue sponsored a vacation to Cuba for some of the members. Had nothing to do with Judiasm, but it met the requirements

[@teslashark]

Those pope-hating megachurches!

[@ericb.4313]

I know my in-laws have gone to Cuba (they're jewish, I'm not) I had no idea that's how they did it.

[@AbsolXGuardian]

@@ericb.4313 I don't know if it's a common trick or if it's just my synagogue that did it. If your in laws live in southern California it's certainly a possibility that they went via my synagogue (I don't feel comfortable being more specific). It might have just been something my Rabbi came up with due to her history of arranging packaged vacations to places of Jewish history.

[@esteemedmortal5917]

Just to comment on the ableism thing: It’s not ableist if your impairment actually impacts the essential tasks of the job. If people were inferring he was stupid because he was in a wheelchair, that would be ableist. Being able to walk is helpful but not required to be president. The fact that he’s demonstrated cognitive issues is rightfully alarming.

[@unknownengines]

*if it impacts the essential tasks of your job AND no reasonable accommodations can be provided to mitigate that impact (with "reasonable" defined not from the perspective of a profit-seeking employer, but rather from a perspective that considers material feasibility without regard for the employer's profit margins. this is a vague definition, of course, but i'm writing a youtube comment here. we're just playing toys, okay?). without that second clause, this statement is, in fact, ableist.

[@Frommerman]

@@unknownengines Reasonable should be defined from the perspective of actually accomplishing the task at hand. Someone in a wheelchair is never going to be the best pick for a home construction job, and I genuinely cannot imagine a fix for that which doesn't require technology we don't have yet or accepting a significant loss of productivity. The trick in defeating ableism is ensuring everyone has a place in society which they can live with AND which allows society as a whole to get the most out of their work.

[@sholem_bond]

@@Frommerman I'm not sure if you meant it this way, but "allow[ing] society as a whole to get the most out of their work" is not of equal importance/a goal equal in worth to "everyone has a place in society (AND everyone has the opportunity to live whatever they consider to be the most fulfilling life possible, within the limits of society's means and other people's right to safety and autonomy)." Part of the reason we have institutionalized ableism* is our prioritizing of human productive capability, especially but not exclusively as "productivity" is defined under capitalism, as the primary way by which we relate to and value humans outside our immediate social circle (and sometimes inside it, too). This leads naturally to the devaluation of "unproductive" or "less-productive" people and bodies. Society has a vested interest in facilitating the training and employment of everyone who wants to work, for sure, and some labor needs to occur for humans to survive (and we can't automate all of it). But society was invented by humans and should exist to serve humans. Humans should not be batteries whose maximum utility/labor is extracted to serve the interests of a nebulous idea of "Society" (an idea that always ends up excluding the majority of people living in it). Anyway people with some types of neurodivergence/"mental disability" would be great Presidents; one can admit this without defending or supporting Biden.

[@bobsmith2637]

Some jobs require certain abilities. For example, I work for a Class I railroad in what is called a safety-critical position (I'm a locomotive engineer) and we have to go for a periodic medical evaluation at regular intervals. Some health conditions and prescription medications may mean that I could no longer work in my current job, and my employer has the right to know certain things about my health and medical history. In my line of work most employees retire well before they start developing old age related cognitive issues but I can think of a couple guys in their 60s or 70s who ended up having to retire on account of their mental faculties starting to decline. No one in their right mind is saying that Biden at his full cognitive capacity (the Joe Biden of, say, 20 years ago) couldn't run for president again, but it's not ableist to say that an 80+ year old man in the early stages of dementia or something similar shouldn't be seeking the leadership of a country, if that is indeed what is currently happening to Amtrak Joe.

[@anarcho-pingu]

who knew the vote was shsndcldff was blue no mttszdf no matter who thank you

[@fb9i]

of course Alice "Cold War" Kelly knows a lot about the Cuban missile crisis

[@5508Vanderdekken]

That’s a sick general’s name

[@Dong_Harvey]

weird Scottish accents really affected her outlook

[@cooljayhu]

Give me a 24 hour episode, cowards

[@hobsonster]

My brain immediately thought ‘video game industry, guest HBomberGuy’

[@codemonster8443]

​@@hobsonsterwill watch. Holy shit unirronicaly great idea

[@wesbartlett4447]

Soviet Union 24 Hour episode.

[@MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot]

40 hours. Make it a full-time work week in one video.

[@paleposter]

Do it live during US Election day

[@spirieo]

Fun fact: The Spanish built their first railroad in Cuba before they built one in Spain. As Noah mentioned, it was for resource extraction.

[@IzzyHackworth]

Finally, the coveted Train Bad

[@ianhomerpura8937]

Meanwhile, on the other side of the Pacific, the Philippines only got its first proposal for a railway line in 1875, and a short section opened in 1892.

[@FlameDarkfire]

@@IzzyHackworth Train Neutral. CGP Grey commented that a despotic form of governance only needs two roads: one from the resource extraction to the port, and the other from the palace to the airport.

[@trioptimum9027]

I'm guessing that right-of-way was at least part of that equation. A colonial railroad, you've got a few big landowners to negotiate with and as long as you're not trying to bulldoze somebody's mansion, they don't really care what happens, right? So it's much easier to negotiate: You want to knock down a village? Build it between two other villages and the parish church? Who cares, I don't live there! Building in metropolitan Spain, on the other hand, you're likely to have lots of little landowners, and the people you're talking to DO have a pretty big stake in the details.

[@davochinomalo]

Es porque fuimos provincia de ultramar. No nos colonizaron los españoles, éramos españoles.

[@ResultsHazy]

*looks at the tumbnail* Yes... *looks at the runtime* Oh god yes...

[@RooneyMac]

How I felt when Penn Central dropped. Then saw "Part 1" and lost my fuckin mind in the parking lot

[@Alevuss92]

42:18 Except the Poles! So many in Napoleon's Polish legions sided with the Haitians, Dessalines declared Poles to be legally black and spared them from the massacres.

[@runningonmTee]

unbelievably based

[@a.p.2356]

Doing the weird hotep "Mussolini was Black" thing, but for Poles.

[@ZealothPL]

The idea of the president having a big, red, "start global nuclear war" button AND an ark of the covenant style hidden lever labelled RESTART RECONSTRUCTION that deploys cyber Lincoln (maybe like that Lenin clip from the Simpsons?) had me actually laughing like a maniac in public

[@FlameDarkfire]

55:00 let us stop to consider the fact that when Tomorrow Never Dies came out in 1999, people criticized the plot of a media mogul actively manufacturing a war to gain more market share for being unrealistic, and today we’re like “oh yeah that’s pretty possible.” WHEN IN FACT this was already fucking done IRL over 100 years earlier!

[@corvae]

Which was especially galling, since I remember the BBEG quoting, and NAMING, W. R. Hearst.

[@claudiadarling9441]

I've lost count of the times a based on true story film has cut out things that actually happened cause the audience would find it unbelievable. As the saying goes fact is stranger than fiction.

[@artstsym]

Columbus native, can confirm that that is indeed the correct city, and we do have an art museum. Please send public transportation.

[@artstsym]

Also, re: Habana/Havana, this is an example of what's known in linguistics as an allophone, where multiple phones (sounds) are used to produce the same phoneme (idea of a sound). Usually these will always happen in non-overlapping circumstances (English speakers will not use the same t sound in "stop" [t] that they do in "top" [tʰ] because the surrounding letters influence their pronunciation), but the Spanish [b] vs [v] is one of the much more rare examples of a free variant, where they can exist in the same space and users of the language will typically switch between them at random.

[@justaboxofsneks2875]

love it when the podcast episode lasts longer than the embargo it is about

[@philipmalcolm4550]

Come now, we know they don't edit.

[@Julia_and_the_City]

Liam angrily shouting "can we wrap this shit please" is the most beautiful ending to a 4 hour episode. Love y'all, keep grinding the long episodes.

[@crelb5219]

"The thing about dual use where one of the uses is military is that that's basically everything" As someone who did purchasing for a high school, I feel this in my bones. I swear half my job was "Yes officer, I do need a bunch of scheduled chemicals. We have a chemistry class"

[@gregorybertrand645]

"This man simply does not know what a twink is." That made me laugh even though I couldn't tell you what one was myself.

[@chancekahle2214]

Devon seems to think that you have to be an emaciated waif to be a twink. Che was absolutely looking like a twink in that photo.

[@alexanderboulton2123]

A twink is a man who weighs less than 200lbs.

[@Min-ke6zc]

For educational purposes: a twink is a skinny, typically but not always effeminate gay man.

[@Whammytap]

An interesting snippet about the logo looking like a ballet dancer with thick thighs: Historically, ballet dancers were much stockier and more muscular than they are today. The choreographer George Balanchine preferred ultra-thin dancers, and his influence on ballet was so vast that this is the only body type considered remotely appropriate for ballet today. It used to be the other way around.

[@Hemostat]

Think of the muscle you'd have to have to pull of some of the shit they do. I'm surprised we haven't gone back to that style

[@jcameronferguson]

It's true, the ballet is far less hot than it used to be

[@alexpkeaton4471]

14:00 President Boomhauer "Bnaerfna babg mserg asdf sdferfv I tell you what 2024!"

[@BillyONeal]

Before I even watch this, I see 4 hours, shudder, and say "poor Devon"

[@joshuasutherland6692]

In Chicago we say "Poor DeVaughn"

[@caleyvaughan5539]

Jesus Horatio Christ. Presumably Devon is now curled up in the foetal position, slowly whimpering from the sheer amount of time this must’ve taken to edit 😳

[@huseyx2]

No, every edit only makes Devon stronger. Soon their powers will be beyond human comprehension

[@OrionsChild]

@@huseyx2 *their powers

[@huseyx2]

@@OrionsChild thank you, edited

[@buns9022]

and just to think, all of this just to go watch bad spy movies and do MORE EDITING.

[@AnnieRegret]

❤

[@SenMysrana]

RIP Devon. Taken from us too soon, crushed beneath the weight of one podcast episode too many.

[@iron1349]

27:20 Cuba looks like a vacuum cleaner articulating to reach under a bed. Legit wish that we could see where Cuba could be today if Obaama's shift in policy stuck.

[@radomirblazik]

Around the 3:04:00 time mark, the red bus on the top right is a Hungarian made Ikarus 280 bendy bus. Known all over central and eastern Europe (and Portland, Oregon) for being a little gutless but generally fit for purpose otherwise. Tatra didn't make any more buses after the fifties, and the ones they used to make were special purpose, like a 6x6 off-road bus for service in the mountains...

[@jeanclaudevanswag]

aint that the bus that killed our dear lord and savior of soviet rock, Viktor Tsoi

[@bobsmith2637]

I'd vote for the Liam ticket. Make Alice secretary of state and put Gareth in charge of transportation. Rocz will be the president of Amtrak and get his own business car. Devon can be VP or whatever the hell they want.

[@PobortzaPl]

Shouldn't Alice be a secretary of the interior and create unified police for USA? I recall her saying in one of latest KJB episodes that she wants to be called "the best [female] cop [somebody has] known"

[@bobsmith2637]

@@PobortzaPl she could also be the defense secretary if she wants to do stuff with guns, or focus on the navy if she likes really big guns.....

[@PobortzaPl]

@bobsmith2637 Abigail Thorn for secretary of the navy, Nate or Francis for secretary of defence

[@huseyx2]

Merge the transport and mail police services and make Alice the commander (role includes ridiculous uniform with a giant hat)

[@PobortzaPl]

@huseyx2 Tricorn with silver edges, violet plume and scarlet cockade, perhaps?

[@Speedojesus]

So modern day Cuba is basically like shopping in Aldi? Everything's either a no name brand that's probably better than market leading counterparts or drastically worse, something that usually wouldn't be sold in a supermarket, or one or two variants of major brands like Colgate for toothpaste - with everyone in there being visibly depressed, especially the employees. Doesn't sound too bad, they have decent bagels and coffee beans where I live. I would bet the ice cream would be even better in Cuba though.

[@alexandera2509]

They really did get Justin a new hard drive, huh?

[@ducttapeengineer]

He already had one. I would bet that Liam finally went over and installed it for him.

[@xmlthegreat]

​@@ducttapeengineerafter slapping him in the face with ur a few times

[@Skullair313]

Perhaps it is only attached on one side, dangleing precariously in the case of the computer?

[@pmcgee003]

One harddrive? One?? You can be sure he had an empty beer carton filled with them, in unopened FedEx packaging, along with increasingly actionable threats, in writing, from Liam. 😅

[@allisonhastings4964]

Aww yeah, first time I get to listen to WTYP at my actual job as an engineer's assistant Thanks for helping me through school!

[@SpotTiger]

Alice, we love you and appreciate all your struggles with imposter syndrome. Hang in there, because your very real job of being a host and a creator is valid and valued. ❤️❤️❤️

[@gaetanst-cyr3705]

The correction that no one wanted: that awesome picture of the Sandinista in denim, she's using an FN CAL- FN's stillbirth attempt at a 5.56mm rifle to compete with the AR15 before they developed the FNC. So, super rare and awesome to see! Also: the FN FAL's that you guys are talking about Cuba using were ordered by the Batista regime, on delivery when Castro took over (*YOINK*)! And in the collector's market, you can distinguish them by a half-dollar-sized hole in the magazine well, where the Batista crest was drilled out. Anyway, from a nerd in his own little cell, thanks for the much-needed dose of humor in my self-destructive diet of education.

[@fritzophrenia3146]

Excited for this nuanced, tasteful and (most importantly) brief overview of this topic!

[@iamjustkiwi]

Don't forget sensitive and gentle!

[@ramadaomar5676]

On homelessness in Cuba: I used to tutor esl students in Tampa. Two were older Cubans that came in the 90s. They weren’t fans of the revolution. Things were pretty bad when they left. They were, however, disgusted by American homelessness. They decried the incompetence of the Cuban government (fair if you lived through the special period) and the barbarity of ours.

[@teslashark]

The 90s, where America thought winning is the end of it BUT

[@superyerfdog]

I'm not sure what the Cuban government could have done in the 90s to solve the economic crisis besides giving up to the US to end the embargo

[@teslashark]

@@superyerfdog That's what Vietnam basically did, once Cambodia is sorted out

[@ramadaomar5676]

@@superyerfdog Not much. What I mean is the experience would test anyone's faith in a socialist project. 90's immigrants aren't like 60's gusanos.

[@usdepartmentofthetreasury489]

Maybe they could go back to their shitty island

[@daltonkraft4241]

I had not heard the Biden speech at the brewery and thought Alice was making a joke out of his cadence but no, distressingly accurate

[@frederf3227]

Oh no... well voting for a Democratic administration anyway like a non-idiot.

[@SupremeRuleroftheWorld]

And its still better than the "other choice".

[@StepperBox]

26:30 i thought the joke was going to be "No thats **a** cube... We want Cuba."

[@OrionsChild]

I'm barely 10 minutes into this video, but I just need to stop and say FUCKING ***THANK YOU*** for pointing out that both "candidates" have been credibly accused of sexual assault. Copala Harris was already on my shitlist for obvious reasons, but the shade she so freely threw our Rapist-In-Chief's way, both about those allegations and the "heartfelt" story she shared about bussing, only to "We did it, Joe!" her way into the VP spot absolutely boils my fucking blood to this day. We deserve so much better than this horseshit, and the politicians who keep shoveling it in. *Ahem*. Alright, you may continue now.

[@Deimonik1]

You'll have Trump again soon and thus the President you deserve.

[@GrandGobboBarb]

"Let's all go out and harvest the sugar!" Day sounds like the best/worst national holiday ever. Imagine just shutting down the economy for a few days like a holiday, shipping everyone to the fields, they all harvest, and then have a little party while they're tired and cut up (idk I'm imagining getting little cuts like when ya do corn detassleing). And then everyone goes back to the office the next week and see Saul with no cuts and tease them for not doing their revolutionary part.

[@Man2quilla]

Lmao, Devon's warning made the sneeze so much better

[@speight88]

47:30 "I'm gonna have to gloss over a lot of stuff because otherwise we'll be here for four hours" Noah underestimating the power of WTYPP

[@theflyingspaget]

Why did i read that as "well theres your pp"

[@legowerewolf]

Oh god, I didn't check the length before I started. Send rations.

[@pierrotnasse]

the amazing part of being brazilian is that you understand roughly everything the puerto rican guest says

[@cronotrigger1949]

Yeah

[@viniciusdesouzamaia]

Not only understand it, but you also *GET IT* completely.

[@chrisball3778]

Roz gets the camel joke wrong- the Dromedary has one hump. The vehicle at 3:08:40 is a Bactrian camel bus. The way to remember which is which is to spell each with a capital letter, turn that letter on its side and the count the humps. D for Dromedary= one hump. B for Bactrian= 2 humps.

[@K-o-R]

There's a bit from the show _BlockBusters_ where the question was "What D is a camel--" "Dromedary!" "No... What D is a camel... that is no longer alive?"

[@lindkenbb]

I'm so relieved Alice knew the origin of Che as a nickname

[@firstdurhamite1142]

im here for alice’s existential career crisis in the 3 hour ish area. Most relatable shit ever sometimes we just need to say it

[@ajjaran]

"There are 4 individual cuts I've made in the last 50 seconds" Oh Devon, I'm so sorry...

[@tharun7290]

Truly a landmark achievement in podcast-with-slidesing. P.s it’s long overdue for a KZbin episode with Victoria Scott

[@beedubree2550]

I was given a full warning for that sneeze and it still made me jump

[@tarasaurus98]

This episode feels a lot more like a bonus episode than a regular one tbh

[@stockicide]

Haiti's problems weren't just from lack of infrastructure. Several countries also boycotted or embargoed Haiti, and Haiti was forced to pay war reparations to the French, which kept them in debt until this very day.

[@expendedAmmunition]

Unequivocal support for Liam’s direct action ending this marathon podcast. Yay Liam.

[@GilTheDragon]

This is fantastic. guest is so enthusiastic. Also Alice ought take a vacation. Let the goons take the helm These are fun knowing the people on the other end are happy & well. Like. Yall this podcast (& YA novels) has been CRITICAL in turning some VERY RIGHT WING members of my family into left anarchists. This podcast has eternal warm feelings

[@outistynnanyt5153]

24:34 thank you Devon for having the same reaction I did 1:38:32 2 for 2 on taking the words out of my mouth, Devon!

[@shawndomenico5830]

agreed

[@antoinetteherrera9026]

Bit of family lore: my dad, at one point in his life, smuggled arms to the rebels, where he told me that he had met Fidel Castro. I can't verify the story, but it's one of the few stories he shared about his life in Cuba.

[@jasonallman696]

I have lived in Miami, FL for over 40 years. Given no other info, I would actually think that story is true :)

[@jamespocelinko104]

Fun fact, "embargo" spelled backwards is "o-grab-me", an old name for a snapping turtle. You can probably make the connection from there.

[@henriquepacheco7473]

How long did it take you to make that shit up? Was it a five second joke or a five hour one?

[@MyChannel773]

this reads like every conspiracy comment section (except there is at least one accurate observation here)

[@AnEntropyFan]

Since the reveal of the RailNatter Alice episode have been thinking, a "radium girls" episode when?

[@coled555]

The podcast Behind the Bastards talked about the radium girls briefly in an episode in Dec. 2023, not super in depth but enough to be horrifying

[@AnEntropyFan]

@@coled555 Of course, it's a horrifying apex of misogyny and profit motives, also a very important bit of workers' rights history (although brocialism is popular on the internet, in the real world it's more often than not the efforts of women and other marginalised people that led to changes for the better). However, with Alice being a watch nerd as well, it would make a great WTYP episode.

[@GabeSyme]

The dollop also did an episode on it​@@coled555

[@kaiserschnitzel89]

"We talked about this briefly on the 'armored train' episode" is a sentence I will probably only ever hear but a scant handful of times for the rest of my days.

[@edwardharshberger1]

I'm in an MPH program at UCLA, and in class, one of my professors told us a great story about the time he visited Cuba and met Fidel Castro. He was part of a health professional delegation that came to view a documentary screening about Cuban doctors abroad and to learn more about the Cuban healthcare system. Turns out, the Cuban director of healthcare liked him so much that he invited him back. They were at a dinner in the evening when the topic of Cuban doctors in Indonesia came up. The director paused, then said, "Why don't we ask the president (Fidel Castro)." They called up his staff and were told that he was busy at the moment, but would be free soon. Turns out, he was busy watching Brazilian telenovelas, so they put his favorite channel on and waited till it was over, when he'd be free. My professor ended up staying up all night into the morning with the other representatives talking to Fidel, who called up the medical director in Indonesia and proceeded to school him in the need for baseline data in public health interventions. My professor got sent home with Cuban rum and cigars, and he still has some to this day!

[@FTT4]

¡Viva Liam!

[@huseyx2]

¡Viva!

[@relwalretep]

¡VIVA LIAM!

[@mercury4885]

¡viva!

[@jamesshefchik9690]

¡VIVA!

[@owenhowever1958]

Noah says precisely all the time and roz says exactly all the time its so funny

[@KazukoKrzan]

90 seconds in and the SCUM score is skyrocketing

[@thomasdjonesn]

¡ Si señor !

[@Mhmd_F]

On the topic of Castro's US tour, my dad was an undergrad at Harvard at the time and he sometimes tells me about the time Castro visited and was giving a speech, and that he mentioned the importance of youth, except that his accent apparently made it sound like he said "the importance of Jews" to which everyone cheered after a pause

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

For the record: The tank at 1:46:56 is indeed a Sherman. As for what variant, I could not tell you, probably an M4A2 or similar judging by it having what appears to be a squared off welded steel hull.

[@filmcameras4evr45]

Damn.. I wrote my comment about this then scrolled and saw yours. I wouldn't mind, but I went looking for a comment first before I did it 😂

[@TheRealE.B.]

Even though neither party is having a meaningful primary, it's funny that between death from old age, prison and other legal challenges, and resignation, it's funny that Harris vs. Haley 2024 is still a very realistic possibility.

[@Hemostat]

Here's hoping lol

[@Camooses]

As a Mainer who lives a couple streets over from the USS Maine monument (which is made from the ships shield}, Its long annoyed me that because of the "Remember the Maine!" thing we never got our own WW2 ship named after us.

[@chrisj683]

Please be careful of doxxing, comrade.

[@garrettmarshall7664]

​@@chrisj683 it's OK fellow mainer here, nobody is coming here right now to do shit lol

[@aniseeubanks9686]

During the 80s and 90s Cuba was able to pick up an American radio station out of Little Rock Arkansas called Magic 105. It was the local rock station. From Ozzy Osborne travel show they love metal music because of it. I was friends with a few of the deejays and found it kind of cool some of the kids in Cuba idolized them

[@user-yr9op8eb9o]

CIMAvax, the lung cancer vaccine you keep referring to, does not mean you can smoke as much as you want and never develop cancer. At this point it’s functionally a lung cancer specific immunotherapy used for individuals who already have cancer. There is theoretical reasons to believe it would have some preventative effects if given to individuals before they develop lung cancer, but studies on that have only begun in the last few years and will probably take 5+ years at a minimum to gather data before they’ll be able to tease out the existence and size of such an effect.

[@phillipalden]

We went to Cuba right before COVID hit. I love the country and the people, and it’s true that they make the most of what little they have. The food was also amazing.

[@nottrevorallen]

the jean jacket and AK aesthetic looks really nice we should probably bring that back

[@BitterWillow]

All praise to Devon for editing. All hail Alice who is a fellow anxious bean. And everyone who contributes to this podcast that brings both immense hilarity and sadness :P

[@lukeman9851]

Was NOT expecting this level of impression game from Noah. Damn!

[@dj_enby]

I know these longer episodes are a lot harder for you guys to record and especially for devon to edit, but i really appreciate them!! Theyre perfect for my long work days and make my shift go by really fast

[@theturkeychild]

omg the 'rich 1950's lady' dysphoria is real

[@_allegra]

Ugh, seriously

[@nimishmalik884]

Oh shit, started listening to this podcast a while ago, this is the first time I've gotten to a recent upload Can't believe how much I've watched over the last few weeks, thank you guys for many, *many* hours of entertainment

[@SolarFlareAmerica]

"I listen to this podcast and KJB while I'm playing Paradox grand strategy video games" I hate myself now. I can't believe how accurate this was.

[@evea9832]

Alice I will never stop listening to podcasts. the world could be crumbling around me and I'd still be like oh hey new ep

[@alexjensen1524]

For anyone wanting to watch Soy Cuba, it is coming to the Criterion Collection in April ON A 4K ULTRA HIGH DEFINITION BLU-RAY DISC!!!!! The existence of Criterion putting this one out has already given Phil Lord brainworms about “Glorifying a violent reigime” because his great-grandpappy was a landlord in Cuba

[@PapaBenjaminW]

Alice and company spent all day slaving over a hot podcast stove for this.

[@jeanclaudevanswag]

The whole segment on Soviet-Cuba military pseudo-vacations is bringing me back to all the insane stories my Czech father would tell me about his school trip to Cuba in the early 80’s as part of a Soviet-Warsaw Pact-Cuba cultural exchange program, and one of them is how everybody- literally everybody who went on the trip; middle school aged kids and their chaperones would spend every night getting shitfaced off mojitos on the beach in Havana.

[@SamuraiMujuru]

All right, I have a grievance with this episode. The Cuban embargo does NOT mean we cant get good cigars, it just means we can't get good Cuban cigars. Lots of great cigars from other places, they just have different traits than a great Cuban. Also Cuba makes junk sticks, too, same as anywhere else.

[@MrTheWaterbear]

Also good rum... isn't all coming from Cuba... and all Cuban rum is far from good. And yes, Cuban cars do NOT meet modern expectations of crash safety. I despise this insane glorification. It's like people who think Japan shits gold or something, except this time it's about Cuba.

[@FlameDarkfire]

A lot of the old families left Cuba to set up shop elsewhere, so you can get Cuban style cigars with tobacco from other parts of the world

[@mixmastermind]

​@FlameDarkfire I'm not gonna get a R&J from the Dominican Republic just cause some shithead failson opened a new plantation there

[@gonzoengineering4894]

​@@MrTheWaterbear I prefer to think of it, as Alice put it in another episode "the morally correct rum"

[@SamuraiMujuru]

​@FlameDarkfire to be fair, it really is the tobacco that makes a Cuban a Cuban. A cigar made with Cuban seed tobacco is noticeably different from an actual Cuban grown one. Terroir and all that.

[@alexf6994]

i sneezed right before rosz did and now i feel some sort of parasocial soul bond with him

[@dfwai7589]

Genuinely did not expect you guys to ever select my subway safety third. Thank you, love the show as always. It was an excellent listen while workingm

[@jackbates7467]

Glad to get a super long WTYP episode on the day I'm working a 16 hour shift.

[@MrChaf]

Bless you Devon for the sneeze warning ❤

[@RooneyMac]

That's gotta be an animatic soon

[@FIRSTNAMELASTNAME-zt4kf]

Oh dear God they've broke the 4 hour mark

[@ferky123]

Episodes 88 and 89.

[@scout8145]

2:09:15 I love how Liam yells so loud that his own mic peaks, even though the sneeze itself was not loud enough to peak Rocz’s mic

[@GigasGMX]

Never has a guest looked more *exactly* like they sound than this one.

[@DougKingJax]

I have willed this episode into existence just by thinking, "Hey it's time for a new WTYP to drop!" Behold the power of my Amazing Psychic Abilities.

[@quantumblur_3145]

Jinx

[@bobsmith2637]

I've been thinking that for the past 5 days, you can't have all the credit 😁

[@user-om8pb8ob9i]

man this news segment and bidens press conference yesterday (feb 8) really just. we are so fucked

[@K-o-R]

Bond went to "Cuba" in _Goldeneye,_ which was actually Puerto Rico.

[@blackvulture6818]

I wish for an episode for the USS Maine just to do the "USS Maine was an inside job, JWB put nano thermite on the coam bunkers" Also I've just realized Willam Randolph Hearst did the plot of "Tomorrow Never Dies"

[@davidwright7193]

Of course it was an inside job. Which ever rating was smoking his contraband cigar in the magazine was definitely an insider,

[@Hemostat]

Only 2 and a half hours in so maybe they'll talk about it later, but cuba has an interesting Doctors exchange with other countries. Where they literally trade doctors for resources.

[@ChrisGnosis]

Clarifying a point as a chef and north carolinian: the Carolinas have like 6 styles of BBQ but North Carolina is most well known for a vinegar based almost mignonette style of sauce used mostly on pulled pork. South Carolina has the well known mustard based sauce also used on mostly pulled pork and beef or pork ribs. Also Texas BBQ is demonstrably better with SC style BBQ sauce and anyone who disagrees is wrong. ❤

[@kaninchenzero8537]

yeah texas style sauce is dogshit, sayeth a texan. texas brisket with nc vinegar sauce? magic.

[@ChrisGnosis]

@@kaninchenzero8537A good SC mustard based always has my heart but NCs vinegar based is absolutely fire on everything as well, especially on Texas brisket 🤌🤌🤌

[@viniciusdesouzamaia]

Hey Alice, about your anxiety regarding your fake job, you're not alone, so chill out and enjoy the fact that I and many others started listening to your shows (this, tf, kjb) because YOU were in them.

[@aluminumcurtain]

If I can offer my two cents as somebody of Haitian descent, it's a bold claim to state that Dessalines "betrayed the revolution." Myself and pretty much every Haitian leftist I've ever know actually holds Dessalines in a higher regard than Toussaint. Toussaint, for all his anti slavery ideals, ultimately still wanted to keep the sugar plantations running, and was not seeking independence from France. It was Dessalines who brought those things about in the end.

[@MrTylerStricker]

The Cuban embargo is a topic near & dear to my heart, so I'm quite pleased that my favorite podcast is covering it & with a sprawling 4 hour saga to boot!

[@usdepartmentofthetreasury489]

The cuban embargo is not the reason Cuba is fucked up

[@usdepartmentofthetreasury489]

It’s communism and socialism

[@MrTylerStricker]

@@usdepartmentofthetreasury489 lol so it has nothing to do with the embargo?

[@MrTylerStricker]

@@usdepartmentofthetreasury489 and thanks for filling in the obvious. So reactionary of you.

[@DjViceroy]

​@@usdepartmentofthetreasury489zzzzzzzzz

[@DontMockMySmock]

Alice your job is real, you can tell becasue it pays money

[@Carlito_Sway]

Justin shouting out Donald Fagen- The Nightfly @1:54:00 is one of the most personally satisfying moments in the history of this podcast (with slides).

[@devinfaux6987]

On my third or fourth rewatch, I realized Alice missed a golden opportunity to play a clip from Hunt for Red October about going to Cuba for shore leave.