The Downfall of Henry Ford's Secret Country in Brazil

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[@ahardearnedincome6437]

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[@Spineless-Lobster]

The idea of wandering through the Amazon Rainforest and then you come across a midwestern American town out of nowhere sounds like some weird short horror story and I love it.

[@Gloomdrake]

Sounds like a Ray Bradbury short story. Two of them, in fact. For one, he literally wrote a short story about astronauts going to Mars and finding an American town full of long dead people they knew. The other one that comes to mind is some astronauts landing on a different alien planet with a long abandoned city. That one is fun, since it's from the city's pov as it lures them into its trap

[@Parasiteve]

sounds like a stephen king movie specifically lol. like its making me think of his truck movie for some reason.

[@Pattamatt1998]

@@Gloomdrake the Mars one is one of the chapters of The Martian Chronicles. It's my personal favorite of Bradbury's works, basically is an anthology of interconnected short stories, so it's a really engaging read where loose ends from one story are suddenly tied up later on in a seemingly unrelated story.

[@manuxx3543]

It's exactly like the Dharma project in Lost

[@junecroft8435]

it really sounds like a magnus archives episode lol

[@klayn5611]

>Builds company town in Brazil >Bans meat, alcohol and soccer Would have been easier to ban oxygen i think, lol.

[@gigiarmany4332]

😂🤣😂💥🔥

[@dr.anderson1847]

Rules of history: -Don't invade Russia during winter -Printing more money will always lead to inflation -Banning alcohol will always result in blood shed

[@alanwatts8239]

Taking soccer away from a Brazilian is like taking the tires off your car and expecting it to drive.

[@lemons1559]

@@dr.anderson1847 If you invade Russia during spring, win before winter.

[@Lyncin]

@@dr.anderson1847 2 doesnt count to the US.

[@salomerodriguez5145]

I love that quote of "you can't culture something that already has a culture". Cultures that don't work during the hottest hours aren't lazy, they just work different hours just like someone working night shifts isn't lazy either for sleeping during the day.

[@socialdiseaze]

real as hell

[@addisonpage1]

I work night shifts so I have to sleep all day, I get called lazy sometimes and it makes me laugh

[@nowhereman6019]

Yeah, it's also just realistically practical. Work culture cannot be universal like Ford wanted it to.

[@ProudFilthyCasual]

The dumbest part is.....that's not even a foreign concept to places in the U.S. lol. Ranchers and Farmers have a very similar schedule, it's just the byproduct of living by the land. His lack of understanding seems to boil down to....city boy.

[@Seeker0fTruth]

@@ProudFilthyCasual too true.

[@elliottcoleman8225]

That part about Brazilians working around the intense tropical heat instead of through it really struck me because in Arizona, we have similar temperatures during part of the year, and outdoor labor, which is what I usually do, is not an option for me for part of the year. I love this story because it just cracks the idea of the ideal American life in such a beautiful and exact way and shows that the practices of other cultures are not wrong, just different, and are better suited for their unique conditions.

[@beav2K]

Arizona best state 💪💪💪

[@dustyking8851]

The ultimate idea that We know better than thee. The racists great claim. I'm from NOLA & people didn't work at 12 noon, I mean really.

[@RAAM855]

It's just that America views the working class with such contempt cause they are so paranoid that workers rights leads to Communism or something

[@Lyncin]

btw, as a brazilllian (são paulo huehue) i think its even crazier that that heat is through the entire year, not for just a few weeks to months.

[@Noctali_Volkova]

Dude literally, I landed in Arizona for a connection flight. Landed around 3pm (probably the hottest part of the day tbh) and just watching those workers outside moving stuff around to help with moving luggage and such, the thought popped into my mind of "wow making people work outside in this heat should be illegal" I thought it was terrible weather cause I am used to temps around the 70s-80s during the day and mid 40s during the night lmao

[@DyxoXinoro]

"And so he died, having never visited Fordlandia" Suddenly, everything makes perfect sense.

[@kmilorestre5223]

Wow, it's like elon with mars

[@JonatasAdoM]

@@kmilorestre5223 Oh no Imagine the settlers fleeing back to the ship and desperately calling back Earth.

[@ShadowPhoenix82]

Yeah, he projected SO many requirements and demands on the workers to "improve them" while never having visited himself. He didn't understand the heat, didn't understand the fauna, didn't understand the culture, and just assumed money and patriotism would solve all woes. I used to think better of that man...

[@Reefer-Rampage69]

@@ShadowPhoenix82 well you shouldn’t think highly of him because he’s also a known racist and an anti Semite

[@fort809]

@@ShadowPhoenix82 why would you ever think better of Henry Ford? He invented an amazing thing then assumed his ideas were the best ever for the rest of his life, he wouldn’t even let his son paint the cars different colors

[@gabrielborges396]

My grandfather's father was a truck driver who traveled between São Paulo and the Amazon. In 1931 he went to Fordlandia, he described the place as "hell on earth" , "total mess" and whished that God would destroy that place, according to my grandfather. He says that he gave a ride to 9 people between the Amazon and São Paulo, which is a trip that takes about 50 hours. These people would rather live like beggars in a big city than earn 5$ a day in Fordlandia.

[@Linecookin]

So you could say your grandfather was the first amazon truck driver 😂

[@davidsilva1912]

Caralho mano, que doideira

[@ViniciusMartins-rd4dr]

Essa linha inteira de comentários tá sendo um enorme r/suddenlycaralho

[@CH-pv2rz]

Because your grandfather gave rides to vagrants that didn't want to work.

[@tammy5466]

@@Linecookin THIS IS SO FUNNY WHY IS NO ONE RESPONDING

[@josephmatthews7698]

"Your laws suck! I'm gonna go start my own country! Without hookers! Or blackjack!" - Ford Brazil: uh there's already a country here. Ford: yet no people... Strange.

[@eoe23guy91]

What should have happened "I'm gonna start my own country with hookers and blackjack, you know what forget the country and the blackjack, aw screw the whole thing"

[@anotheraccount444]

Oh, dude. I'm brazilian. Don't think the brazilian government was innocent and tricked by the "evil" Henry Ford.

[@zakunick1]

We love you daddy, Ford. Shut up baby, I know it!

[@stares_mthrfckrly]

Said every colonizing country in history as a whole

[@rachelk4805]

I mean, given his racism, this seems believable.

[@Lazyaholic]

As a Brazilian, this is so so funny. Mind you, I live in a big city with almost no greenery to be seen and few national parks, but depriving a Brazilian of: Alcohol, soccer, Brazilian culture in general, to work in the hottest hours in a dangerous area sounds like the worst idea ever. I genuinely had no idea that this happened wow

[@shion_notaflower2688]

Pse, eu tmb n sabia que isso tinha acontecido- por isso amo esse canal, descubro coisa até do meu próprio país kkkk

[@chiuaua2235]

Tem que dar dislike em qualquer comentário que começa com “as a Brazilian”

[@nothingherewtff]

One of my (engineering) university professors was born in Fordlandia, pretty cool guy to talk to. He ended up being one of the guys who developed Brazil's first ethanol-fueled engine in the 1970s. (edited because there were previous models, the first one was invented by Nicolaus Otto)

[@ashk.7463]

Is that a motherfucking brazil reference?

[@jillawesome1]

Dude tell me more

[@ermacjones4821]

Probably did an ass load of cocaine too.

[@adonailr9667]

Holy shit, whaaaaaaaat?

[@joshuabrown1787]

You can’t just say that and disappear

[@babyblue3717]

as a Brazilian, let me say this: do NOT mess with the rainforest. I've hiked in forests in the US, beautiful land, not 10% as dangerous as the Amazon rainforest is. you do NOT sit on the ground there. you do NOT touch a tree. you don't even walk there because the earth is so muddy you can drown. only the natives know how to live in the rainforest, and of course, they were not heard in this case. it's a really, really, really dangerous place to work and live

[@ryanlozano9086]

Oh so Brazil is like flordia

[@Ronam0451]

@@ryanlozano9086 no, and what is flordia?

[@ryanlozano9086]

@@Ronam0451 it’s one of the usa State and Flordia is freaking weird like so weird that it’s cracksack world there

[@boipoi_78]

@@ryanlozano9086 I'm pretty sure you mean florida?

[@babyblue3717]

@@ryanlozano9086 hahahahahaha yep kinda

[@Volcarion]

something consistent among the military historian and veteran youtubers i've watched is that they all emphasize the importance of creature comforts in maintaining morale. a shower or a decent meal seems so small until it is all you have to look forwards to. when that gets taken away, the boss is going to have a problem

[@caorlimoes]

Banning soccer and building golf courses instead is the most gringo audacity moment I've ever heard lmao such an interesting story!! I'm brazilian and I hadn't heard about this, great video

[@generalgungus]

ban fun sport, replace with the most boring "sport" known to man

[@kaihart8275]

ban futbol, game you can play with a few rocks and a not-completely-flat ball and enough space to kick it around, replace with golf which is probably the most expensive sport to get involved with and also just truly makes no sense

[@LaiosTouden]

Not to mention that golf is a Scottish sport, not USAmerican lol. A truly American sport people could play even in the jungle would be lacrosse, which traces its roots to Native American populations.

[@caorlimoes]

@@LaiosTouden woah i had no idea about the origin of lacrosse, that's so interesting!!

[@undersc0r]

why are you white

[@everserpa9063]

Anyone who lives in Brazil knows that the idea of forcing a vegetarian diet on the workers is the worst idea ever... I mean, anyone who lives anywhere, actually.

[@Foogi9000]

True, a Vegetarian Diet doesn't really work that well when you're a Brazilian worker ass deep in the jungle doing hard labor. It simply wouldn't give you enough energy and i imagine it didn't help that they weren't used to it as well. I also find it fucked up that Ford never set foot in Fordlândia.

[@InsanityPlusOne]

Force them to have a vegetarian diet and make them work through the hottest parts of the day... Yeah no, I live in NZ but as a night worker who starts at 9pm and loves meat I too would be tearing the workplace apart within a month.

[@sidney9796]

right? i think its cruel in general to dictate something so important as food for people

[@liaspooked4980]

ESPECIALLY if you leave in the Amazon Rainforest. I am not from that region, but I imagine that fish is a large part of their diet. Again, its like Ford just really wanted to force the locals' traditions out of them.

[@InsanityPlusOne]

@@liaspooked4980 Can't claim I am well enough versed in their diets to judge but like my diet had a lot of chicken and pork with a little fish and I live as inland as you can in NZ... Ford seems like he was Kellogg levels of crazy with his forcing dumb ideas on people and not expecting rebellion though.

[@JaneDoe_123]

"The catterpillars started to trick the workers." That's one hell of a sentence, and I feel more accomplished as a person for hearing it.

[@doubtfulshadow6295]

By far my favorite part of this story haha

[@thezerowulf2046]

It's going to be in a out of context video don't worry

[@stevecooper6578]

This really really reminds me of the Emu war for some reason Animals bamboozling humans is pretty hilarious

[@ritamargarita1039]

my mind-image of caterpillar-infested plantation is hella scary🥶

[@Filipe2Santos]

@@ritamargarita1039 I don't know if you guys have this type of caterpillars in your country, here in Brazil called "taturanas", but they are venomous and can hurt really bad. There is even a specific type that can kill people called Lonomia obliqua. Gotta be a really awful job to have!

[@bafelix89]

It's worth noting that Ford did not grant greater pay and shorter hours because he was some benevolent genius. He granted those things at the end of a pitch fork held by unions and labor organizers. Organized labor gave us those things, Ford was just smart enough to recognize the writing on the wall and decided to skip all the fighting and hassle.

[@gammarayburst5]

Yea Wendi sugarcoating these sorts of things is borderline offensive fr

[@Nightmare-pj4fg]

I love Wendigoon and it was genuinely painful to see him sugarcoat these things. Beautifully put. 🙏

[@JSmusiqalthinka]

YES!! THIS!!! THANK YOU!!

[@TheOnlyGamerX]

@@gammarayburst5 What are you talking about? It's a video about Fordlandia, not the wages and unions of the US. He stated how much they were being paid as a factual statement. Regardless of why they were being paid that much doesn't change anything.

[@RagnarLoudpak]

@@Nightmare-pj4fg there’s a difference between stating facts as they are, and “sugarcoating.” Nothing he said about the wages was opinionated, which you must’ve wanted it to be, but only in a negative way.

[@sarka4727]

I LOVE the fact that the caterpillars were like "yeah fuck you" and just evolved to eat there favorite food lol. That's awesome.

[@bbtdgfan890]

Henry Ford was so great at creating assembly lines, he even turned rubber tree infections into an assembly line!

[@zoetv2170]

He saw the world in lines, reality in lines. That illustrates pretty well his narrow views

[@tibbygaycat]

@@zoetv2170 it’s because he was doing lines lol

[@connerriccardi2424]

That’s just Quantum Field Theory

[@samerm8657]

This comment deserves a medal! 🎖️

[@JustTryingToYoutube]

@@zoetv2170well his narrow views created some insane generational wealth that’s still growing

[@liskiiro3574]

"You can't culture something that already has a culture" i loved that phrase, that's so true. Being born and raised in the Argentinian border with Brazil I can say that here the environment is different, so we had to adapt to it. Is not that we don't care about other cultures, it's just our environment and circumstances made us create our own. I think we all need to research and listen to the people who actually know about stuff in order to avoid making the mistakes that Ford did.

[@keylaabril]

Donde vivís?

[@liskiiro3574]

@@keylaabril en Iguazú, misiones. Ahora estoy en Buenos Aires igual.

[@apathicmiko6546]

Que bueno ver otro argentino en el canal de Weendigo 👍 saludos desde neuquen!

[@liskiiro3574]

@@apathicmiko6546 buenísimo! Que lindo encontrar compatriotas! Saludos

[@myriam1777]

Un capo Wendigoon la verdad

[@LethalBubbles]

destroying the time clock sounds deeply symbolic. Like toppling the statue of a dictator, or something

[@benray8676]

It instantly made me think of Office Space when they smash the printer.

[@odd-eyes6363]

Boy, if you think Fordlandia is a weird story, you're in for quite a ride when you find out about the Varginha Alien. Even the US military got involved

[@ikarenn8460]

oh god i forgot about that... remember that random kid in acre who decided to just disappear outta nowhere with a bunch of cryptic shit in his room and then he just. showed back up?

[@concept5631]

​@@ikarenn8460 W u h ?

[@gabrielhiyodo6144]

​@@concept5631Yeah, the boy put a whole ass statue inside his room. In the house he lived with his parents. No one noticed

[@concept5631]

@@gabrielhiyodo6144 H o w ?

[@Restar11111]

​@@concept5631No one knows, and his room was full of encrypted messages

[@banko4727]

I went to Henry Ford Museum a while ago, I definitely see why they don’t have this story anywhere there 💀

[@InsanityPlusOne]

Sounds like it's not a proper museum then, just a monument to ego.

[@liaspooked4980]

@@InsanityPlusOne Welcome to america

[@InsanityPlusOne]

@@liaspooked4980 Yeah from what I know of their "news" organizations it does not surprise me. On the other hand I am shocked that people get that egotistical when I can barely stand myself let alone expecting others to worship me.

[@aaronnilestoussaint5672]

@@liaspooked4980 lol you think a Holocaust museum will mention how some of the scientific experiments done actually benefitted humans?

[@luichinplaystation610]

The american dream

[@gabrielferreira6427]

Out of curiosity, several of the machines (that is, those that were not destroyed by the riots) STILL WORK almost 100 years after being installed in the middle of the Amazon Forest.

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

Goddamn that's top notch engineering

[@YayaFeiLong]

@GundamGames Gotta love planned obsolescence

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

@@YayaFeiLong amen

[@ElegyVio]

Jesus Christ is the truth reach out

[@ElegyVio]

@@airplanes_aren.t_real Jesus Christ is the truth reach out

[@annoViroviacum]

"Henry Ford hated jazz music" HMMMMMMM.... I WONDER WHY

[@RG-tt1ru]

Maybe because he grew up on a different type of music. Do you like every type of music?

[@quickgoldberg9041]

​@@RG-tt1ru No, he was pretty r@c1st

[@RG-tt1ru]

@quickgoldberg9041 Towards whom was he racist, and in what way was his racism demonstrated? He was the largest employer of American slave descendants in Detroit.

[@stanleysmooth]

It's actually a bit crazy that not one, but two of America's most famous men ended up trying to make their own Utopia. Disney and Ford were both trying it.

[@dickjohnson9582]

Pullman tried to make a "utopia" for his workers here in Illinois too.

[@metronicmagician1816]

Honestly this was a rather common occurrence with these extremely wealthy businessmen. Definitely not to the degree of Disney or ford, but so many rich whitefish tried to make their own company towns, and it never worked.

[@jgood005]

@@metronicmagician1816 Interesting to see similar paralells to today. CEOs today aren't building company towns, but they'll blather on forever and come up with cutesy names for employees like "Googlers" or whatever.... it's like, you realize this is just marketing, right? You understand people are really just here for a paycheck, right? Makes you wonder sometimes.

[@ReverendMeat51]

Teddy Roosevelt did the same too, but in a different way. God bless him for it

[@thebronzepill7892]

They probably saw what was happening to our culture.

[@airtonmbrasil]

As a brazillian, one thing that is not so very subtle in the video, is that Ford see brazillian as almost barbarians. My history teacher had a master deegre using Fordlandia as a "case", and she view the situation as a very specific type of colonization and local culture squashed for the colonizer culture

[@yourdadhasadogfilter2505]

It's like the missionaries that went around the world "civilising" people, even though they were the ones under attack

[@TitioChonky]

O homem branco fazendo o que sabe de melhor: destruir.

[@Fatblue246]

unsurprising as ford was a known massive racist and anti semite so lmao

[@filler7149]

Nowadays I think I prefer Brazilian culture to western culture because we lean towards glorifying sociopaths (nowhere near as dramatic as it sounds but I cant say it any other way) and pretending to agree with things to increase our reputation. Godspeed to you guys, I hope you know something we dont

[@resistencialiberal9555]

Just vote PT and Brazil will be rich with socialism like Venezuela 👍

[@panqueque445]

"So workers in the Brazilian jungle take a rest in the middle of the day because it's literally too hot to work" "Nonsense. Get to work" *workers start passing out in the sun* "Just throw some money at them it'll work itself out"

[@echoplots8058]

"But there's nothing out there for them to spend the money on." "Yes. Because we prohibited everything that's fun."

[@ciciamanda.]

@@echoplots8058 "well then get squaredancing lads! wait why are you not squaredancing?"

[@SpiffoGaming]

On the bright side, you don't have to do manual labor when you are passed out so you can miss the rest of your shift and still get payed for it since you are always at the workplace

[@MrPoogly]

With respect to not passing out in the sun and thus requiring long breaks you CAN throw money at the problem: just create a night shift and work in 8 hour rotations. My dude was trying to push a north american work schedule in a south american environment and expecting the same results

[@Nyssine]

@@SpiffoGaming that's a good point actually, i'd totes work at fordlandia with that in mind not like the brain damage matters considering im already braindead

[@jorgenjorgensen2739]

And some people STILL question why we doubt what super rich people say and why we need to still be careful.

[@Tiosedan]

I have so much to say about this . . . To start with, as a brazilian I can say with 100% certainty that Ford's biggest mistakes were 1:Taking away our soccer and 2:Taking away our barbecues. Then there's the "colonization part", that's like the plot of an alien movie, desease devastating an entire army, native fauna wrecking people left and right and the climate being almost inhospitable. It almost reaches comedy levels, especially the epic fail that were the plantation of the trees, the only thing that I can think of surpassing this shit show is the Great Emu war in australia.

[@Quietobservations12]

This reminds me of a similar story except the intentions were a lot worse; a Scottish soldier named Gregor McGregor tricked a bunch of people in England and France into thinking he was appointed the Prince of a made up country called Poyais in Central America. Thousands of people sailed there believing that there was a rich city waiting for them, but instead they sailed to essentially the jungle in the middle of nowhere. Would definitely be cool if you did a deep dive into this.

[@c4gam1ng12]

Ah yes, I heard about Gregor MacGregor from Count Dankula’s series “Absolute Mad Lads”. But it would be cool to see Wendigoon do a deep dive into that specific incident.

[@xxllamaborrachaxx9374]

Fyre Fest before it was cool? xD (But seriously, they should've known better than to trust a dude named Gregor McGregor)

[@leonoliverrmusic]

Gregor McGregor is probably the most scottish a name can be.

[@amoureux6502]

Octagon City is something a bit similar, people were promised a bustling utopian city and they moved there to find there were some tents

[@Hello-rp4gy]

That's so fucking funny

[@neto135791]

brazilian here, specifically one that lives in the amazon (city of manaus). its so crazy how the story got distorted over time here. my whole life I've heard about fordlandia is a story about city built by ford that got overun by ants lol.

[@InsanityPlusOne]

I mean in part that is a true story, It's just the other big parts being omitted so the only antagonist left is the ants.

[@personperson5848]

ANTagonist, some might say

[@InsanityPlusOne]

@@personperson5848 if one was into puns then yes.

[@liaspooked4980]

Mano eu sou de SP e eu me sinto uma idiota por nunca ter escutado sobre essa historia. Eu imagino que esse não é o caso para quem mora em Manaus. Vocês aprendem sobre a Fordlândia na escola? Achei essa historia super interessante

[@neto135791]

@@liaspooked4980 Não não, e algo mais como uma historia urbana. ate por isso que eu so sei essa versão super simplificada

[@user-cd4bx6uq1y]

18:25 "workers who were used to eating their own meat now had to eat a fully vegetarian diet" was ok 8 months ago but now it sounds like an innuendo

[@AuroraIceFlame]

I love how Wendigoon can go from “here’s this really fucked up horror story I found and need to trauma dump on you guys” to “this was a disaster but also hilarious I wanna tell you about it”

[@carlosmachina]

Man... I'm Brazilian, have actually heard about Fordlândia but never knew all this awesome history of the place. Thank you so much for your work and dedication towards this subject. As an addendum, I'd like to tell that there are many interesting stories about Brazilian Amazon, like the Transamazonica road and the Madeira-Mamoré railroad. Through history, time and time again, the Amazonian Rainforest have been a place where nature just shows humanity that it needs to be humble towards her. Thank you so much!

[@Buldzi]

Nice to see him talking a out this stuff, also nice to see a fellow Brazilian around here

[@fernandoboaventuramotta1254]

YES, AS A BRAZILLIAN I FELT THE SAME THING!! I mean, it's a piece of history that is briefly mentioned at school, but I didn't know it was such a cool place

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

Ola br

[@FlamesTheCyndaquil]

minha nossa, tanto br aqui kkkkk

[@Immortalelfprincess]

Waiting for his follow up video on these stories now.

[@t1dotaku]

As someone from the Detroit area, it's not surprising hearing that Ford's city failed. He tried that shit here and it didn't work, sure as hell wasn't gonna in the middle of the jungle.

[@joeljr570]

And he didn’t even try it on a urban area 🤡

[@markw8324]

His stuff failed because our society is failing to confront the inevitable consequences of never ending population and currency that is prone to inflation. Not to mention a goverment who seems essentially paid off to export our means of self dependence to other countries rather then seeking local solutions.

[@FirstLast-em5uz]

You can really understand the madness behind the bizarre "healthy proper living standards" and the bans on smoking and drinking and the odd focus on "cultural" traditions like ballroom dancing (in part to protest the Jazz culture Ford so vehemently hated) when you read that Henry Ford was both inspired by and inspired Hitler and he was a preposterously wealthy and powerful lobbyist, eugenicist, and anti-Semite who wrote several books on his insane worldview. Ford straight up tried to orchestrate a coup to overthrow FDR and create a fascist dictatorship where business monopolists like himself could have near godlike power.

[@Dimbliss.]

Where did you get the info about him being inspired and inspiring Hitler. I can only find speculation that Ford and GM helped Germany during the war. Nothing that shows he was inspired from the mustache man. Edit: I did find the rest of what you said, I'm just missing that one little bit.

[@thespacedpirate]

theres a few reasons people put chevy engines in cars with his name on them. this could very well be a reason for someone

[@concept5631]

​@@thespacedpirate Spite him and make him violently roll in his grave?

[@merchantfan]

Yeah anyone that was anti-Jazz and pro-square dancing in that era was a megaracist. And yeah Ford was a first class bigot

[@burgerkillsyou]

The money thing is actually a huge issue. If everyone in a very closed off community makes around the same wage, it doesn’t matter how much they make, nobody’s rich. There’s no use of money if the only things you can buy are from a select few general stores. I also bet prices were higher because everyone could pay more and didn’t have much choice otherwise.

[@Flipindabird23]

Right; like how in Alaska they have prices marked up almost 800% because where else are you going to get honey buns? The cost to get things there all goes into the price

[@lauriepenner350]

I can't think of Henry Ford without thinking of how horrible he was to his son, Edsel. He was just an awful, awful guy. After Henry allegedly stressed him into an untimely death, the family honoured Edsel by naming a car after him. Unfortunately, that car was the Edsel.

[@dollarcostbackpacker1226]

He did give him a very stupid name.

[@arborwin]

@n30n Fat lot of good the middle class did. It lasted what, 1 generation? lmao

[@danielanderson6933]

@n30n Middle Class is a myth. You're either a worker or an employer. There's no in-between no matter how many liabilities you purchase on credit.

[@danielanderson6933]

@n30n That still doesn't apply to modern day America. Hell even in the 50's only the most affluent of individuals could afford such luxuries and expenditures without having to work as hard. Yes, while prior to the industrial revolution EVERYONE all across the globe lived much differently than in the following era. Today we have more luxuries and commodities than the richest kings of the 1500's, but that still doesn't signify the amount of labor or work we need to do as opposed to those in power.

[@noahjohnson935]

​@@danielanderson6933 the Middle Class does exist it's just having a hard time as it gets squeezed alongside the Proletariat by the Haute Bourgeoisie (the Upper Class). Worker's conditions have improved significantly since the Gilded Age and there are multiple people who hold similar jobs to the rest of the Proletariat but get paid more and thus can afford more but aren't insanely wealthy. You also have the Petite Bourgeoise of small business owners who have a similar wealth range. The line is getting more blurred as the Upper Class buys out multiple small businesses and are cutting more corners with pay. The 90% get poorer while the 10% grow fatter

[@vitorfsilva_]

Brazilian here, in Portuguese we pronounce the “j” as in English, not like in Spanish. So the correct pronunciation for “Tapajós” is more like “tapa-johs”

[@v.v.9.9.]

This!!!!!!!! I dislike when they say the names José or João as "Rosê" and "Roáo" 😂, a little research doesn't hurt

[@mikaelsza]

No, portuguese J is not like english, but like french J. Portuguese J sounds like S is MeaSure or TreaSure. English J sounds like D in Dia (Rio de Janeiro accent)

[@ArronTheCat]

@@mikaelsza the j in English does not sound like a d in any word lol

[@pissingspeedrun]

Gotta be cautious because other white people and only white people will self righteously try to correct you and call you all sorts of things

[@v.v.9.9.]

@@ArronTheCat for us it does. For example, "James" and "Jungle". That very "J" sound is how we pronounce some "Ds". Like in "Dia" (day) and "De" (of). "Rio Jee Janeiro". (or Rio G Janeiro as well). I understand why gringos get confused lol

[@docsnakeoil3555]

This whole concept seemed unbelievably familiar to me as I was watching this, but I wasn't sure why. That was, until I remembered something super weird. At that time, all I remembered was talking to a low-res Henry Ford in the middle of the jungle. Eventually, I found what I was thinking of: The Amazon Trail: Third Edition. This point and click from 1998 was a weird chunk of my childhood, as it was one of the two games on this old computer my parents used to use. But low and behold, in it there's a portion where you literally travel back in time and talk to Henry Ford about Fordlandia. There's not much I have to comment on here, but I just wanted to say thanks for awakening this weird memory of a point-and-click that was made six years before I was born.

[@compatriot852]

You'd think Ford would've at least taken notes from similar places in America like Louisiana and Florida where the typical Midwestern town isn't easily suited for a tropical environment

[@backwardsbandit8094]

I'm with the Brazilians on this one. If someone tried to make me line dance and eat only (no doubt, unseasoned) boiled vegetables, I would probably start a riot as well.

[@joeljr570]

Also, even today you have at least 1 hour of lunchtime by law here, forcing people to work on the hottest areas of a country to work in the hottest hours of the day is a a big no no, its not laziness, is just common sense, start earlier, take a break, finish it rested and without collapsing

[@gabrielagariglio]

You can’t take soccer and barbecues from Brazilians and expecting them not to kick you ass out…

[@michaelbugner7011]

You can't tell someone you can't do these things you like to do. Especially if those things are harmless. Listening to jazz, playing soccer, eating meat. Smoking and drinking is harmful, but it's not incredibly destructive and it isn't your business if someone does it off company time. What's worst is going to another country to do this and telling the locals that basically your way of life is wrong, you should live like us Americans. That's so condescending and elitist. Reminds me of rammstein's song Amerika.

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

@@gabrielagariglio Understandable. Taking soccer from a Brazilian is like taking tea from a Briton or rice from a filipino..

[@JonatasAdoM]

@@JarthenGreenmeadow or vodka from a Russian. I imagine this would be like someone arriving in Italy and forcing the locals to eat Sushi and watch Baseball.

[@gabrielagariglio]

Dude had no idea of what a rainforest, a massive rainforest, really is… It’s not only “a force of nature” it’s nature itself in all it’s glory. It’s beautiful and absolutely deadly.

[@ciciamanda.]

yeah the way he expected people to just be able to rummage about in the rainforest in like putting an unknowing scandinavian in australia. Like yeah, in the forests you are used to the worst insects or snakes would give you a bite that would be slightly irritating or at worst dangerous but unlethal, but this is a completely different country... and they have animals that are actually dangerous and very much around at all times

[@luichinplaystation610]

Like women

[@polasamierwahsh421]

The thing is ,it could have possibly worked IF instead a city in the middle of it he put the city on the edge and set up wok stations further in

[@gabrielagariglio]

@@polasamierwahsh421 we have this, is called Manaus. It works pretty well. To be honest tho, I don’t see the whole cultural shenanigan Ford wanted so bad ever working in Brazil.

[@polasamierwahsh421]

@@gabrielagariglio oh , can you tell me of an example I can look up?

[@Vlugazoide]

Even the thought of a 9 to 5 job is completely nonsensical here in Brazil. Our main meal is lunch, the fact that the workers HAD to work without a lunch break was probably also a source of revolt. We don't eat like 2 pb&j, a brazilian linch is like a plate full of rice, beans, fries, salad and a steak, that's why we take a full hour lunch break by law

[@Anthi-Zo0nrikqz]

Morale of the story: Never impose yourself unto anything. Live and let live.

[@Prizzlesticks]

"You can't culture something that already has a culture," just hits. Damn.

[@bustavonnutz]

Tell that to the British lmao

[@Zunderfeuer]

Yogurt would disagree

[@Prizzlesticks]

@@Zunderfeuer I'm not even mad, that pun was excellent.

[@mx338]

Ford wouldn't know, he was a massive Nazi.

[@RAAM855]

Tell that to the far left. And right.

[@Broogli]

I remember my APUSH teacher back in highschool telling us about this, and I didn’t believe her 😭

[@worstmakoto]

Hello, Broogli-senpai, how are you?

[@yazu-gab.]

broogli has come to join in us listening to wendigoon

[@stephenmurken6618]

YO ITS THE BACKROOMS MAN

[@Broogli]

@@stephenmurken6618 yeee

[@CozyGoes]

i watched every single one of your and wendigoons videos

[@TheTakashishiful]

Fun fact: Ford hated jazz because he thought it was created by Jews. And he hated Jews so much Hitler actually credited Henry Ford as his inspiration.

[@boodasias563]

If you think Ford was anti-semetic, wait til you hear about Marx.

[@AndorRadnai]

Jazz was generally seen as degenerate art by the Nazis. I didn’t know the part about Jews, but being predominantly played by black people was bad enough for them.

[@thebronzepill7892]

Read Ford's book instead of just watching shit about him. He was right about the Jews. He didn't hate them. Some people aren't driven emotionally in such ways.

[@Nyssine]

based

[@CedricSmith-un6vm]

Nica Rothschild did Support a lot of Jazz musicians.

[@rhaenatargaryen8061]

"good intentions" nah this evil freak definitely had very weird intentions

[@drollplace7096]

Here in Brazil the faliure of this project is many times considered an national brazillian victiory against imperialism

[@nightowl_ap]

(laughs in communism)

[@luichinplaystation610]

And Brazil became another imperial itself

[@HazeLmao]

@@nightowl_ap *starves to death in communist*

[@LagrangePoint0]

@@HazeLmao Literally Venezuela after 40 years of socialism and 24 years of communism. And I mean LITERALLY, poor people are eating leftovers from the garbage because with the socialized salary, venezuelans can't afford food.

[@RodolphosTechchannel]

Yeah probably by the left wing lunatics lula lovers. Victory against imperialism, our country is much better right? Look how amazing we are today. 😂

[@wadejohnston4305]

This should be way more common knowledge. You can't just literally PLANT a new culture INSIDE of another country/culture over night. We do see it now a days somewhat but never to the levels of Fordlandia

[@sharanski]

i cant think of other examples..hmm…

[@WatermelonPeppermint]

As a ford worker, it's literally like a country in itself at a plant.

[@cameronclendenen8386]

Not sure how popular it is in other countries but have u not heard of "little any country" places

[@cameronclendenen8386]

Not sure how popular it is in other countries but have u not heard of "little any country" places

[@nignamedmutt7270]

@@cameronclendenen8386 yeah, and they almost never end up actually acclimating and becoming a part of their new culture, and only promote xenophobia(in both directions) Melting pot=whoreshit

[@marcoschines1]

I'm a Brazilian and I didn't knew this part of history (maybe because I live at the center of the country and Fordlandia is on the North). Thank you very much to make this history available. Ford was a fruit of his time, it's natural he thought like he did and made the things he did, and that's how we learn, making mistakes and correcting assumptions that are not corroborated by reality.

[@Wallyworld30]

I'd never heard of Fordlandia thanks for sharing that intersting bit of history! Not often I learn about something so significant in history that I've never even heard of. Your channel rocks you deserve all the success you have.

[@invasoradopc]

As a brazilian, this is the most "story of gringo doing dumb stuff" thing I have heard.

[@pink2643]

I love your comment lmao

[@maybemablemaples2144]

Exactly this. You'd think they'd learn but half of them barely read 🤷🏿‍♀️. Edit: I was being disingenuous, they do read but only about WW2.

[@rosiehawtrey]

I think Darth Dumbass being elected just about beats this out... Barely. Best part is Darth Dumbass can still campaign for a second term - since he wasn't impeached.. American Civil War II: The Search for More Corpses. There's a reason why I call the place Retardistan.

[@MEOWMIX3DS]

gringo estupido moment

[@878550]

KKSKDKDKDKFKSKDKDKD EXATO

[@beth4692]

I love the range of Wendigoon’s videos, no matter the topic, from video games to serial killers and conspiracies, they’re all so well researched and executed Edit: THE BOTS ARE RAMPANT BROWSE COMMENTS AT YOUR OWN RISK

[@R.MaxumOff]

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[@Jimboyx]

@YeaMan In your dreams

[@beth4692]

@@Jimboyx these spam comments really think they’re doing something

[@Jimboyx]

@@beth4692 ikr. They are just so useless. Yt should take care of these comments. They really annoy me cus you can't see comments of actual people

[@katyr2382]

The irony of a bot comment under this 😬

[@RabidlyTaboo]

"Wow this place sounds like a gilded cage, how awful." "Soccer is banned" *packs bags*

[@alextank8675]

Im honestly just picturing the workers destroying the time clock just like the printer scene from "Office Space" lol

[@spidey5548]

I would like you to know that my history teacher here in Brazil recommended your video as a great depict on Fordlandia and that helped me in a test I needed to pass. So thank you very much great video bro, you're making a difference :))

[@lucker6181]

What test would you need to know this for? Im also brazilian, just curious

[@Xer0sama]

1- I completely sympathize with the workers attacking the time clock first, as I have recurring nightmares about time clocks, and my father has recurring nightmares about time clocks. 2- How the hell does a farm boy not know the difference between growing field crops that need harvested and replanted, and an Orchard of trees with renewing crops? What did he think was going to happen when you plant trees close enough to hold two at once?

[@josephmatthews7698]

Not time clocks but ticket machines in a restaurant. It's been 15 years since I worked in a restaurant but I'll still have a nightmare of that machine ratcheting out a waterfall of tickets while it "rickety-rack-rickety-rickety-tick" all night long. That sound has penetrated my being and was so dehumanizing.

[@bradmiley]

"You can't tame nature" This was the folly of man during the post-Infustrial-Revoluttion. It was man's folly because they just refused to understand that nature isn't there to be "tamed", at best it's there to be worked with, but I hear these words: tame, harness, overcome so often in disaster tales from history, and it always makes me chuckle sarcastically and I think "Here we go again". As a force, nature is beyond the reach of man, and time and again, man has discovered this, yet learned nothing. In fact, they acted as insane people, if you take the adage "Insanity is repeating the same action and expecting different results"! That was an excellent video Wendigoon, I'm binge watching your work today, so expect more Likes and boring comments!

[@runswithraptors]

Naw, nature has been tamed in lots of ways, how else do you explain modern agriculture, animal domestication, daming rivers etc

[@Coffmanantics]

@@runswithraptors yeah like he said worked with. If we had fully tamed nature there wouldn't be any disasters.

[@yhwh9778]

imagine being a tribesman just hunting through the jungle when you suddenly stumble into an american suburb with a golf course

[@chukko3913]

personally, as a brazilian: the chef part is the most brazilian thing ever.

[@JusticeAngel]

I guess it be like that sometimes

[@JustHaveFunVideos]

Serve shitty food, receive shitty prizes

[@TheZackofSpades]

I had to laugh at that part, chased him into the jungle for DAYS…whoa. I’m never denying a Brazilian their meat.

[@AzureDeathHaseo]

Yes! I came here for this comment, and god forbid, if they caught the guy, he'd be eating raw vegetables for days.

[@gremblorthesackgoblin7953]

@@TheZackofSpades Have you ever been to a Brazilian steakhouse? They adore meat and it shows

[@sammyyy1465]

Hey dad, so proud of how far you've come. I remember when you had like 500 subs, you've kept me entertained whilst I was* recovering from breast cancer. Thank you ❤️

[@cutelasscutlass876]

If ya haven’t already recovered entirely, I wish the best for ya, and am glad you’ve gotten through this as far as you have. :)

[@Judgement_Kazzy]

Same, I started watching him with the Disturbing Movie Iceberg, which I think was the first video that really started his channel exploding. I don't think I've ever seen another creator grow so fast and deserve it so much. Absolute legend. Also, wish you luck with the tiddy cancer, gobbless.

[@thedeadratviolist6654]

I have no idea why, but I thought for a split second that wendigoon had breast cancer. Why

[@CactusBrannigan]

God bless you, glad you’re on the road of recovery 💙

[@thanosjuice2840]

Wish you a good recovery 👍🏼

[@griffiniswell467]

off topic but bros skin is GORGEOUS please drop the routine😭

[@gsdtdeaux7]

My breaking point would have been when I got outsmarted by a caterpillar.

[@kamiwriterleonardo6345]

This whole operation can be summarized by a Toretto quote: "Your mistake? Thinking you're in America. THIS IS BRAZIL."

[@chromium4288]

Here are a few interesting stories in Brazil you'd be interested in, the Goiania Cesium-137 Incident (one of my favorites), Varginha UFO incident (is pretty memed but there are some interesting stuff in here), Operation Saucer (there's a history channel doc), Lead Masks Case.

[@lego007guym8]

Screenshotting this for later research for a project of mine, thanks.

[@klausbdl]

up!!! cesio 137 would be a cool topic for wendigoon to talk about

[@agata6337]

vulgo: a playlist completa do mundo freak confidencial de casos insólitos 😅

[@noizee05]

the Lead mask case is a must!!!

[@columnal8067]

lead mask case should defo be done by wendi

[@NightOfTheLiving8bit]

As someone who married at Wayside Inn (another one of Fords big purchases…that was actually successful), it’s always interesting hearing about all of the crazy things Ford tried doing. At least he didn’t sit on his money. He tried some mighty radical and innovative ideas. He just expected everyone to have the same ‘work ethic’ that he had. Which was lunatic level.

[@Baker0214]

I went to a museum when I visited Detroit completely themed around Henry Ford, and this was never mentioned. I his estate and supporters weren't proud of this project either

[@JackTheripper911]

That would be the "Henry Ford Museum" surprising name I know, given the subject the Museum covers lol.

[@OnlyLyricsx]

As a brazilian I'm really happy that *you* brought up this case bc you are one of the few ppl on youtube who is able to talk about other cultures without minimizing or disrespecting them. Love your channel!

[@your-username-here2308]

Imagine getting angry if someone disrespects Culture X.

[@amaimon8031]

@@your-username-here2308 what are you even talking about

[@gabrielhiyodo6144]

​@@your-username-here2308I mean, its our culture. We like it.

[@mmastoryline623]

Crazy eh. People having pride in their culture. Wow!

[@thefiretailedweasel6206]

Shoutout to Wendigoon for airing the dirty laundry of all these so called "heroes." These are things I would've never learned in history class

[@morg630]

Oh, if you think this is bad, you should look into Ford's opinion of Jewish people...

[@heistingcrusader_ad3223]

never meet your heroes

[@andreyleonel255]

@@heistingcrusader_ad3223 No, meet your heroes You need to be better and do better

[@heistingcrusader_ad3223]

@@andreyleonel255 until those heroes are revealed to be somewhat deplorable people.

[@andreyleonel255]

@@heistingcrusader_ad3223 Exactly That's why you need to meet them So you idolize someone deplorable I know it's heartbreaking, but it's needed to develop mutirity and keep up with reality.

[@didnt_ask_for_handle]

"You can't culture something that doesn't want to be cultured" -The man who refused to be cultured

[@firstnamelastname-zi4mq]

For all the great Henry Ford did, I think his best contribution was showing how strict industrialism and American Exceptionalism don't necessarily translate to a global market.

[@stizuart]

His great ideas really work best in places that have a recent history of slavery.

[@wingerding]

@@stizuart he didn't hire black people

[@benjaminmadeira8442]

@@stizuartBrazil is the country with the longest and most brutal slavery history of the Americas, dude.

[@greengiant5092]

I wonder if Ford ever tried planting hardy rubber trees in Detroit. They produce way less latex, but might have been a better option than building a whole city in the jungle.

[@InsanityPlusOne]

I would imagine if Detroit had a bunch of rubber trees the western world would know of it, Unless there's some secret underground rubber tree farming scene out there?

[@brodyc4114]

@@InsanityPlusOne There is, the whole ruined city with gang warlords is just a front. You know too much.

[@InsanityPlusOne]

@@brodyc4114 The true conspiracy, detroits rubber farms.

[@luichinplaystation610]

Hey, they can stole the seeds

[@mattd5240]

The underground Detroit rubber industry😆

[@jennarhodes2724]

YO you just reminded me Henry Ford is the reason most US public schools teach a square dancing unit in fourth grade. I cannot understate how much that man was trying to displace jazz with "traditional American music and dance"

[@PhantoRoyce]

Because people associated jazz with black people and he was quite racist

[@stonedpaladin8632]

I guess me being from Louisiana and never heard of this we 100% said fuck that lol.

[@brandongreen8004]

That might just be in the south because Im from New York and I know for a fact no school in the surrounding states or in the PNW taught square dancing

[@twistedjoke6636]

@@brandongreen8004 I’m from New Jersey and we had a square dancing unit every year during gym in high school and in middle school we did line dancing

[@wingerding]

Jazz is traditional American music

[@colonelcorn5386]

Just for reference, according to an inflation calculator, $5/hr in 1930 would be about $89.24/hr in 2023

[@isaacschmitt4803]

If I had a nickel for every anti-semititic man who invaded a foreign country for allegedly economic reasons in the 1930's, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice.

[@Crazy-pl1lo]

How the fuck did he invade it?

[@isaacschmitt4803]

@Crazy3210 Well you see, an Austrian man by the name of Adolph that thought he was German decided Poland had been quiet for far too long and sent a false flag operation to justify a full-scale invasion.

[@chucksneed2945]

@@isaacschmitt4803 Source: schizophrenic delusions

[@saltyscythian3671]

@@chucksneed2945 Ok jew.

[@llewelynshingler2173]

​@@chucksneed2945Source: Basic WWII history

[@Morgan-hg2fr]

A lot of things in this video stunned me but what absolutely FLOORED me was that Ford never even WENT THERE

[@elfodelputoinfierno]

You could say you were FORDED ... Sorry I'll see myself out

[@lexiwexiwoo]

There's just something special about the breed of man Ford was. The entitlement, the tone deaf madness, and when he's clinging white knuckled to an idea so cursed that absolutely no one has been as enthusiastic as he thinks they should be. I'm sure he was called crazy more than he was called a revolutionary; Maybe not to his face, but that's not the point. Also, what happened to the Americans who moved to the freaking amazon to work and live there? What happened to the families that had uprooted their actual American lives for that shit show? Did they get "Dear John" letters? The company sent out letters to broken mailboxes saying "Well, that's all folks. You're on your own to get back to the states. Best of luck finding a job or settling down before Ole Uncle Sam comes a'calling. All my love, Ford Industries". Men like Ford, Disney and Theodore Roosevelt all sound like a caricatures when you read about them. You hear the things they said, did, expected of others and the things that history didn't choose to shine a spotlight on and you're like "there's no fucking way this dude was real/serious." but they were and they made some good moves that landed them in history.

[@circeciernova1712]

Don't forget how Ford was racist enough to be a key inspiration for Hitler. The man was convinced that making kids learn square dancing in school would counteract the "malign Jewish and Negro influence" of Jazz music. Which is why many American schools still teach square dancing. Even for the era he was notoriously racist. This racism was likely why he instituted these rules. He'd also have a sort of 'secret police' within his company that would follow workers home to see if they were doing anything Ford considered immoral, engaging with people or politics he didn't like. He was a menace.

[@lol3342]

I really like Teddy Roosevelt just because of the fact that he was shot during a speech and didn't say someone tried to assassinate him until he ended the speech

[@connorbeith3232]

@@circeciernova1712 What kinda stinks is that while i'm sure square dancing is fun on it's own for some, Ford kinda tainted it for his own gain.

[@polasamierwahsh421]

@@lol3342 same and the parks rush , trust bust and being arguably the coolest us president ever

[@gaaraofthefunk5022]

@@polasamierwahsh421 the gentleman's agreement and his horrific imperialist policies in south America aren't very cool tho

[@finch4309]

yet another case of “this all could have been avoided if you asked literally anyone who lived in the area”

[@protonjones54]

It's crazy to think that Ford actually succeeded in making the city, despite the ongoing complications with the rubber manufacturing. And yet bizarrely enough Ford shot himself in the foot with all those ridiculous rules for the city. No alcohol or smoking? Strict vegan only diet? No soccer? No jazz? No flex schedule to account for the very-apparent hot weather? Such obvious pitfalls that could have easily been avoided had Ford not been such a fool

[@beepbop1762]

Fr. I don't understand how one COULDN'T see how that would fuck up everything. It's such an easy bullet to dodge.

[@downrightannoying3922]

“built his own country” oh damn “one of the most expensive and lethal disasters” oh *damn*

[@unknown_limes]

Fordlandia was doomed from the start because of their lack of knowledge. This is why many public projects tend to come with so much red tape and require so much background research, you have to have something pointing you in this direction besides a feeling that this could succeed. The original idea for EPCOT was never built because it was a fever dream from a dying man who had lived his entire life in a fantasy world, there was so little thought to the logistics of how it would work. Same thing happened with Ford. Capitalism has had many bad ideas, but company towns are some of the worst of the bunch, just a few slots below North American slavery and child labor.

[@BelialsGenuflect]

Child labor isn't a soley capitalist phenomenon.

[@madamebkrt]

"Capitalism has had many bad ideas, but company towns are some of the worst of the bunch" - Honestly the fact that people even conceive the *idea* of company towns is incredibly sick to me.

[@LKing-ue2jl]

Lack of knowledge and hubris (and straight up racism)

[@spencerstevens2175]

Bruh, communism (or whatever excuses you come up with to call it) itself is a bad idea. I'm fine living in a society that allows people to pursue their own bad ideas, with no consequence to me. Instead of just living under a terrible system in general where you have no other choice.

[@perhaps1094]

@@spencerstevens2175 can't even criticise capitalism without someone immediately saying socialism is just as bad as if its a popularity contest

[@Ace-ob9yk]

Just a small weird info about Brazil: We have a say that "Seringueiros (the rubber gatherer) passam o dia todo tirando o leite do pau". Translating this would mean "Seringueiros work the entire day milking the wood" - the closest you can have to understand the pun :)

[@maxifernandez1760]

Something that thankfully is better known now than many years ago is that THERE'S A REASON WHY WE STILL DON'T KNOW A LOT OF THE AMAZON RAINFOREST. It's basically the Marianas Trench of forests, there's a lot that is still unknown or unexplored, and will probably stay that way for many years due to the many dangerous flora, fauna or even human tribes that have had little to no contact with modern civilization or life outside of the Amazon.

[@SisterRose]

if you can imagine Britain, Belgium and France doing just vaguely more competent versions of this for a couple of centuries, you might understand why much of the world is the way it is today.

[@oo4758]

@Dootie colonized. Look at how many 3rd world countries they made.

[@aroshliyanage4578]

@Dootie so that excuses exploitation of people and their countries' wealth?

[@aswiftshift5229]

When you totally aren't a racist

[@aswiftshift5229]

@Dootie your deranged man

[@xxllamaborrachaxx9374]

@Dootie Well, they are not paradises now either. What's your point?

[@iamthedoctor8094]

21:14 to be fair as a brazilian i can fully understand why they destroyed the time clock punch in system, to me and basically every brazilian thinks that is a very stupid and unnecessary system, it also seems very inefficient to have to go somewhere and to check that you came then you can start working its just very annoying

[@teen_laqueefa]

Yes as an American I agree

[@RodolphosTechchannel]

Brazilians cant keep time, or be on time. Our culture doesn’t favour discipline but laziness. Ive been living in europe for 13 years and brazilians just CANNOT have compromise or keep time, no discilpline. When i come to visit brazil i am dumbfolded how people go on day to day life with such mess. You probably qont agree with me, but go to any first world country and you will see the difference it makes. Thats why our country will never be more than a third world country of the future. The ugly truth is that our culture has no discipline or time keeping into it. Probably a gift from the Portuguese colonisation and italian culture mixed into it. However if you meet brazilian-japanese descendants their culture is different and they are normally much more disciplined people, why? Because japan is a country of discipline and it works.

[@iamthedoctor8094]

@@RodolphosTechchannel yeah but that system can be very bad for people and the system brazil uses is not that bad it still works its not about discipline its just about having different work ethics like on japan and the usa they both work their employees to the bone and on the usa they don't get payed as much as they should be so even if brazil is a 3rd world country i can at least say we are a bit fairer when it comes to work hours and payment in the usa's case

[@tibbygaycat]

@@iamthedoctor8094 god yes DESTROY THE CLOCKS YES I loved that part of the story

[@tlshortyshorty5810]

The entire idea reminds me of a lot of things lmao >the fake town for Soviet VDV training in COD Black Ops Cold War >Poppyland from Kingsman 2 >the American/Chinese refuge community in Scotland in the Grand Tour

[@mareanya]

Being a Brazilian and hearing about it is so crazy to me. I've heard very little about this in history class, and the curriculum (at least in my school) didn't cover a fifth of this.

[@gemmafeltovich6130]

this is just the most perfect example of how imposing your own culture’s ideas and structure on top of a whole new culture that you know Nothing about will never go well. what a perfect example for how colonialism absolutely fucks up everyone involved 😭

[@Lord1885]

Ain't that an absolute Truth, right on point.

[@gemmafeltovich6130]

@@shinmadd3517 i’m sure you’re just a troll/being sarcastic but if you’re somehow serious, im begging you to read a book. just any book.

[@vespernight4236]

@@shinmadd3517 edgy comment + anime profile pic = dogshit opinion invalid. Go troll somewhere else

[@kidx4581]

@@shinmadd3517 Enlighten me, seriously, please do. Tell me your average U.S. citizen is happier now than your average Native American was with a straight face.

[@michaelbugner7011]

This whole video in my head: 🎶 We're all living in America. America. It's wunderbar🎶 (It's a Rammstein song about America forcing it's culture and way of life on other countries cause they think it's superior.)

[@liaspooked4980]

As a brazilian, I just want to say that i really appreciate this video. My first instinct when I see a video about an american or european talking about brazilian history is to worry, because, as you may imagine, they often end up with very culturally ignorant takes. But this video was the exact opposite - Wendigoon could have very easily interpreted this event in the same way Henry Ford did: "You can't culture something that doesnt want to be cultured". (lol can we also talk about how Ford says "Something" instead of "Someone"?) Instead, Wendigoon recognized what an ignorant and arrogant and disrespectful take this is. It is interesting to see how neo-imperialism still prevails in modern times and how americans really deeply believed they were "helping" other cultures by forcing their own culture down their throat (they still do that to this very day, sadly). I really like how this story ends because it really made Ford regret his own stupidity regarding this entire situation. Were he to just embrace the brazillian culture instead of forbidding it, were he to accept advice from the locals that absolutely knew much more about their land than Ford did - then this story could have ended differently. But he didn't. And now his passion project is being eaten up by the Amazon Rainforest. It is very satisfying.

[@tibbygaycat]

What Brazil needs now is more burgers *builds a McDonald’s in the middle of the rainforest and dies*

[@MrHws5mp]

Henry Ford might have done all sorts of things for which he is justly famous, but in many respects, he was not a very nice man at all.

[@kdash2657]

@@MrHws5mp Sounds like something you can apply to just about everyone.

[@MrHws5mp]

@@kdash2657 Well nobody's perfect, but I can think of quite a few people I know who have a sgnificantly better balance of nice vs not-nice than Ford.

[@your-username-here2308]

""My first instinct when I see a video about an american or european talking about brazilian history is to worry, because,"" I mean you do almost the exact same thing and put People like Ford etc as standart. And dont even see that there is no big "Brazilian, US, German, French etc" Culture difference anymore. People life almost the same way on place X then on the other side of the Planet. Ford for example, was just a ideologist, doing what almost everyone does, things his ways of life are the best. But wanting to force them on everyone he has a bit of Power over. ""Were he to just embrace the brazillian culture"" Almost everything he banned, was not chained to "" brazillian culture"", it was stuff from all overt the World that didnt fit into his own, personal Wish-World. Heavy influenced by Religion.

[@danlowe8684]

This was basically the same model as his logging and sawmill operations in Michigan. Common also in mining operations of coal, iron ore, copper, etc. They were called 'Company Towns' and the company owned everything - homes, stores, etc. You were paid in company script that was only good at the company stores. But the operations were remote and there really was nowhere else to go. The mayors, police, etc. were all company pawns. Everyone stayed in line because you would lose your home if you lost your job. When a worker died, his surviving wife and family had two weeks to vacate the home for the next worker hired.

[@MrJohnnyYang]

Henry Ford seemed like the most unseasoned person ever.

[@luizgustavo1444]

So nice to see one of your favorites KZbinrs talk about a story that happened nearby your hometown. Keep the good work, Wendigoon! Greetings from Brazil! 🇧🇷

[@brx8983]

vai brasiliam 😎😎🇧🇷 é us guri

[@Mr.Lanternn]

Eu sou um homem simples, eu vejo meu país de origem e dou like

[@TitioChonky]

AQUI É BRAZIUUUU HEUEHEUE

[@liaspooked4980]

@@Mr.Lanternn adoro ver gringos falarem sobre o brasil. Eles tem uma perspectiva completamente diferente (e muitas vezes ignorante) de nós

[@Mr.Lanternn]

@@liaspooked4980 cara, eu curto principalmente vídeo dos cara falando dos bichos da Amazônia como se fosse algo bizarro, os cara vê o boto cor de rosa e surta sendo que é super de boa

[@mauimallard154]

As a Brazilian, that was very fun to listen to, honestly this kind of stuff isnt really talked about, but I can see it happening, our people are kinda crazy and everybody here has a strange "final straw" when it comes to problems.

[@choks_3591]

Pera, desculpa se eu entendi errado, mas vc tá defendendo o Ford?

[@RodolphosTechchannel]

@@choks_3591 a ideia dele era boa mas teve mal planejamento e pesquisa. Pena que 99% das cidades no brazil em geral nao tem esse planejamento e inspiração americana.

[@choks_3591]

@@RodolphosTechchannel mas o problema é que ele tentou implementar uma cultura diferente em um país que já tem sua cultura formada, e ainda fez isso de forma extremamente radical, mudando até a dieta dos cara

[@luisacarvalho5889]

@@RodolphosTechchannel A execução de tudo foi uma completa merda... kkkkk

[@choks_3591]

@@luisacarvalho5889 não tô dizendo q os dois caras acima fizeram isso, mas a quantidade de gente defendendo o Ford nos comentários desse vídeo é absurda, tipo as pessoas não veem o desumano nem quando está na cara delas??

[@angelashoson8900]

The ship captain is exactly how my husband describes his job working at a plant. They're like hey you're a good supervisor. Would you like to be a repairman, engineer, chemist and babysitter (not literal babies, just young workers)? And he's like no but I guess so since I'm already here.

[@AuroraIceFlame]

I feel like we are only one mental breakdown from a billionaire away from this being attempted again lmao

[@teh1archon]

There are more video essays about BioShock's Rapture than on this, the kinda real life Rapture and none of them mentioned Fordlandia. Great video.

[@MrBrassporkchop]

I knew about Fordlandia but didn't make the connection until half way through this video. There's absolutely no way Fordlandia wasn't an inspiration for Rapture and wild that it isn't talked about more.

[@nicholasmontgomery8594]

Would you ever do a video on the Ken McElroy shooting in Skidmore, MO? My grandfather owned the bar he was shot in front of and is home to the world's largest pool table. (That's a local joke because over 30 people testified that they were hiding under the pool table when he was killed)

[@ellarasei4404]

YES! YES! YES! YES!

[@TheRunningLeopard]

Shit, your grandfather owned the bar? That’s cool as hell.

[@johnconnah4569]

You need to tell us those stories

[@nicholasmontgomery8594]

@@TheRunningLeopard my dad grew up in Maitland, MO, near Skidmore. He pretty much knew everyone that's been featured in documentaries about it. My great grandmother had lunch with McElroy once as well and I was told that she straight up wanted to fight him afterwards due to his poor manners.

[@VenusianLissette]

Respectfully, I hope he doesn’t. It’s just been covered so much…(Lord have mercy)…so many times…. (*but I mean whatever, I don’t blame you for wanting him to cover it, since he always does a great job w the material/research..)

[@sliphstream4927]

Fordlandia is a perfect example of three fallacies. 1. If an operation works in one place, it will work just as well in another place. 2. If a lifestyle is good for me, then it is good for everyone. 3. I can manage a place properly despite the fact that I have never been there.