Werster rages on Sonic 2 runner

This was during SGDQ 2014

[@omghamburgler]

Werster is the chef Ramsey of speedrunning.

[@wBrianthepyro]

I was literally thinking the same thing watching that

[@Epro95]

+wBrianthegreat Why would you add the word 'literally' in there? Why would someone 'figuratively' think something?

[@wBrianthepyro]

I meant it in the sense of that I was thinking the exact same thing but yeah literally probably wasn't the best word to express that

[@FB87291]

+Evan Parsons By using 'literally' he adds emphasis to the fact he's not joking - it's common English.

[@The1AndOnlyDannyBro]

+Jonathan Kilberg Not very good?

[@kniter]

watching Werster get mad at people playing games, is almost as fun as watching people get mad at Werster for getting mad a people playing games.

[@fryingpan6952]

kniter 1OOth 1ike.

[@bud389]

We're laughing at him, not getting mad.

[@kozstandsya1494]

169th like

[@butteredsalmonella]

bud389 i think it's the fact that there are clueless idiots who call him a noob because werster always rage, blah blah blah, he only uses 1 pokemon, blah blah blah, yeah you get the point. Clueless idiots who don't know werster is speedrunning.

[@jcnot9712]

kniter I don’t think people need to be mad at him to point out he can be toxic and lose himself at times. It’s a genuine character flaw of his and point of criticism.

[@thomasenigma9357]

This can be summed up in one Werster quote. "His execution is fine, but he just doesn't seem to have the knowledge".

[@sstteev]

More like "His execution is fine, but he just doesn't seem to have the Asperger's." ... (Note my (correct) placement of the period *within* the quotation marks)

[@baconater4000]

he gave credit where it was due. was more like a speedrun review than anything

[@CopiousDoinksLLC]

Everybody talking nonsense about Werster, but to be fair, he does actually compliment the runner when he gets it right. Take a look at the moment at 6:09 - Werster practically soils himself at the guy's good run. So don't act like he's a complete arsehole when he just really, _really_ cares about the game. That's all.

[@ZakRios333]

He keeps it real on both sides of the spectrum

[@hype5456]

Doesn't mean it's still not annoying and ass of him

[@volcaeri]

@@hype5456 this is fucking hilarious i cannot understand how this video is annoying

[@pc31754]

Is no one gonna mention that he’s speedrunning while watching a speedrun?

[@infinityheart_tm9270]

Yeah because Pokemon is a monotonous press a button or two and watch the animation (that they refuse to let you turn off by the way) play themselves and you’re left there waiting.

[@iDeathSparky]

These people don't know Werster lol. He does this all the time lmao, it's just for entertainment.

[@galararticuno9419]

For real

[@QuantemDeconstructor]

"his execution is good, it's like he just doesn't know much about the game in this aspect" anyone else notice that some of his criticisms are constructive?

[@raimonwintzer]

he always calls out the good stuff as well, hes not just shit talking. but people would just rather complain because it's 2016 and we must save our delicate sensibilities (while also making fun of other people's different delicate sensibilities, very important for te full package)

[@QuantemDeconstructor]

y'all know how it is, I like and appreciate that

[@PokettoManStar]

All you're presenting Rai is your own snowflake sensibilities. Werster offers nothing constructive, because he presumes it's "no knowledge". What does that even mean?

[@snazzel8312]

Poketto If you don't know what he means by "no knowledge".. Why are you even watching this?

[@PokettoManStar]

What does this mean? I can't consume media without fully understanding it? I should embrace everything I find objectionable?

[@fumpiggle]

Speedrunners throw out the term "frame perfect" so often when it isn't.

[@Korijenkins1414]

Do you blame him for being annoyed? This guy is being portrayed as a top tier speedrunner for Sonic 2 by playing it at an event like this. Werster's record is literally 10 minutes faster than the one he had just watched.

[@Masami_Salami]

AGDQ was supposed to be “entertaining” and him being terrible gave us a new meaning of entertainment.

[@Korijenkins1414]

@@Masami_Salami Yeah watching someone fuck up is cringe and funny for sure, but Werster is an old school speedrunner who probably preferred when the community wasn't infested with incompetents trying to emulate random people they saw on twitch.

[@hype5456]

@@Korijenkins1414 people Speedrun because they want to see how fast they can go, this behavior of his is over the top

[@bartbasil3704]

@@hype5456 Instead, he should be completely dispassionate about a game he's played through hundreds of times. That sounds like a human trait if I ever heard of one.

[@hype5456]

​@@bartbasil3704hardly but acting like a huge critic about someone not doing it perfectly isn't good

[@klui180]

27:20 "I wanna kill him" lmao

[@thomasenigma9357]

This is why he's one of my favorite runners. I wish I had him coaching me. I feel like if I had him yelling "Rubbish" at me I would strive to be better. This makes me want to get back to my speed training.

[@blah9500]

*starts hitting speedbag with eye of the tiger playing*

[@TheLegendaryGBD]

To be honest, that's how I get while watching DSP.

[@Maxdestroyer275]

it's hard to watch that infuriating manbaby

[@Maxdestroyer275]

cjsikkenga DipShitPhil, an idiot who thinks he's good at games and funny, just watch his videos lol

[@randyrandalman8234]

Phil has actually gotten better lately - something seemed to change after the jerking off on stream incident. He used to be a trainwreck you couldn't turn away from, but now he's just a boring streamer.

[@DarkArtistKaiser]

This basically.

[@pj_ammas9905]

CAHM AHN I WAS BLAHKING

[@chumbaman777]

I find it funny how people hate on Werster for the way he talked in here. They fail to see how upsetting it is when someone representing a game that you are "the best" at, in front of over 100,000 viewers is failing to give the correct knowledge out. Had that guy said things like "I'm not sure if this is a frame perfect move" or "I need to do some more research on this particular level," he would not have been hard on him. So Werster gets upset and yells at his TV..... Have you ever yelled at your screen when a ref makes a bad call? I could go on for days, but I'd rather not.

[@chumbaman777]

The Game Corner Are you 12 years old? Have you never experienced anything in the "real" world? Not only are those games his passion, but they are his job. If you were to talk about how Barcelona plays their matches and start giving out statistics that were false in front of over 100,000 people... those players would get pissed off too. As to him saying that when it was a charity stream... he was talking on his own personal stream which has absolutely 0 to do with the charity. The guy himself attends those charity events at least once a year. He finds them to be a great cause. Where do you come off telling him he is a cunt? Grow up.

[@tasshuffler8905]

Werster is not at the charity event. Werster is simply commenting on a run of Sonic 2. Your logic is pitiful

[@gabagool69]

Anthony Core r

[@gggrow]

Wester is like the voice in my head that gives me crippling anxiety

[@FlergerBergitydersh]

What a clickbait-y title...More like Werster does a brutally honest commentary. There's no rage here. He even compliments the runner when he does something right.

[@BlueIsLeet]

He does rage at times

[@themeeman]

Some people need to realise that if you cant take criticism you will never improve. I am 100% positive that when werster got into sonic speed running he got criticised by all kinds of people who were better than him, but instead of giving up he took it on board and improved to become good enough where he could criticise others. I hope the runner on stream took it well, and bear this in mind before you start rushing to defend his pride. Rational criticism makes you stronger if you accept it, even if it hurts to hear.

[@galararticuno9419]

The runner has probably never even seen this

[@zzzz-st5wd]

I get the run is for a good cause but Werster is really just showing a truthful view on his run from another runner perspective.

[@zzzz-st5wd]

runners*

[@TOGTNK]

Some people get it.

[@Zadamanim]

Werster is harsh but he gives credit when the runner does well, too.

[@MaterialistModTeam]

I love this vid. Werster only gives credit where it's due. The guy running this game just didn't know enough about it to make a good run. Werster commended the shining moments but bashed him for bad strats and spouting bullshit frame numbers, as he should. It's one thing to play badly but worse to misinform people while doing it. I don't think this should scare anyone off from being a speedrunner, if anything just do a better job. TLDR; Don't be lazy in your runs.

[@FB87291]

I'm gonna jump with small jumps that'll give me a perfect.. FUCKS UP THE ENDING ^ best bit

[@BlueCrystal004]

Shit dude I remember him saying "ultra granny" lmao

[@PKzale]

The bald guy pretending his stuffed animal is alive cracks me up

[@Luckingsworth]

What cracks me up more is that that guys seems normal and sane by todays GDQ standards.

[@iCONCPTZ]

Why is everyone in the comments butt hurt about his opinion just let him rant everyone's entitled to their own opinion

[@R3BBiT]

iCONCPTZ Exactly! We are allowed to give opinion on his opinion.

[@musecoasa3080]

The Gordon Ramsey of speedrunning. "THIS RUN IS SO SLOW I COULD PLAY THE GAME NORMALLY AND GET A BETTER TIME"

[@splash_067]

Underrated comment, you actually said something funny.

[@dahuterschuter]

Based werster. KZbin can't handle the bantz

[@smarockRB]

It's really a shame I'm seeing so much hate on werster in the comments here. You guys have to realize that the man had been up for 27+ hours straight which only makes him more brutally honest than he already is, and because he's watching a run that he's great at he's sure to just grill the runner(s), especially since he's not there and they can't hear him. It's easy to hate on werster if you don't know the guy, but I watch him all the time and he's so cynical, blunt and negative it's hilarious, and I found his commentary on this run to be a prime example of him being a funny asshole.

[@LookAtThisGreatName]

Johnny Torpedo lmao 10/10

[@TheRabbitFear]

Johnny Torpedo people who have met werster in real life say he's a really nice guy

[@highestsettings]

TheRabbitFear Thank you for that vague anecdotal evidence. I will place it in my "I don't give a shit" file. Every single piece of footage I've seen of the guy shows him to be a complete dick with no social skills whatsoever.

[@TheRabbitFear]

Johnny Torpedo then you're just a troll

[@TheRabbitFear]

The Game Corner it was more than a different opinion, it's the opinion of all the people who met him

[@BazTheDryBonesFan]

How is mega ultra granny more granny than ultra ultra granny?

[@MomoKunDaYo]

Mega is stronger than ultra

[@TJ-jv7ke]

Werster should've donated complaining about the run

[@KaeraNeko]

Werster's criticism isn't bad, but he delivers it in such a demeaning way. He kind of makes me not wanna get into speedrunning. :/

[@MxMoondoggie]

When you start out in anything some of the criticism won't be in a nice way but it's down to your character what happens next. If Werster tore me to pieces like this I'd be thinking "I'll show you" and I'd want to learn how to get good. I play a lot of MMO's so I'm used to people who are top players tearing up other players they earned that right. It's down to you to prove a point and earn the respect of others. Werster did compliment the things he did well.

[@eomdri]

Then don't. Because you clearly lack the fortitude for it.

[@KaeraNeko]

MxMoondoggie That's true, criticism can help you grow if you can't see exactly what you're doing wrong. He did compliment the things that the runner performed well in, but I felt a clear contrast between the commendations and the "That's pathetic, what are you doing?"s. It's probably just a personal thing, it simply rubbed me the wrong way. I'm sure the speedrunner community, Werster included, is a wonderful group of people with many different ways to relay tips and tricks to get started or save single frames. eomdri Perhaps not at the moment, but maybe I will in the future. This comment may have been just a temporary reaction to the video. Given how big a part of my life revolves around gaming, it's almost unthinkable that I won't touch upon speedrunning sometime in my life. Sorry if I sounded like a whiny little bitch in the original comment, I tend to swing that way on worse days.

[@bhot9293]

Kaera Neko Speed running is what u make of it. If you want to be super competitive, you can without being rude about it. However, you can't control how other people are. Also, if you just want to get better at a game and play it quick, you can learn a run and beat your own times instead of worrying about what others think about your runs. If you're thinking about speed running, I would. It can be frustrating ,but it's really rewarding when you get a good run.

[@Kaael]

Kaera Neko Harsh teachers are always the best for you to actually learn things.

[@dekapitated0451]

I'd like to point out that the runner in this video actually tied Werster's current PB of this run because of this video.

[@callmezeldaonemoartime]

Wholesome

[@zhdude]

he's like the gordon ramsay of speedruns.

[@T0XIN21]

thanks for that comment, made my day :D

[@jacobp7037]

iggyboy THIS RUN IS SO SLOW, IT COULD BE RELATED TO HELEN KELLER

[@Jrez]

Except Ramsay is British.

[@MCJoans]

Jrezky australian and british are pretty much the same thing

[@Jrez]

M.C. Joans Well if you don't give a shit then yeah.

[@catsarecats649]

You need to understand that Werster knows alot about the games he runs. He held the Sonic 2 speedrun WR, he knows his shit and has grounds to criticize some random guy at a marathon.

[@galararticuno9419]

Yeah he has spent a lot of time learning about the game and here these people are at marathons giving people the wrong information.

[@cankerworm1337]

ROFL this is awesome! Werster is a genius! Games done quick sucks nowadays anyway, but things like these are priceless!

[@qwertyzxcvbn3174]

Yeah fuck them for raising money for charity

[@cankerworm1337]

Indeed! Good to see you on the same page!

[@DarrenMc]

People can raise money for charity by doing literally anything, get off your high horse.

[@splash_067]

@@DarrenMc lol, offended.

[@sabrinaballard3978]

I find it funny that people are so bent out of shape about this.... Like, the runner is acknowledging that he's doing horrible WHILE he's running, and people are upset with Werster because he's raging about the game? Like do you even understand how good Werster is?

[@TheFatestPat]

Hey Werster how about you lay off my grandma. She can speedrun Sonic 2 however she wants.

[@Darebearlovesbug]

I once made the mistake of asking Werster a question during a stream

[@Chronobus]

19:00 My favourite part

[@MxMoondoggie]

I never get tired of watching this lol. I just like how much he rips on Naegleria for all the shit he comes out with. He's a weird speed runner he seems more like a fan of speed runners than an actual runner himself who shows up for comedy value.

[@noptic]

That dude in the back with that stuffed animal is really fucking creepy.

[@theaestheticcactus7889]

I'd love to have seen werster's twitch chat for this

[@tasshuffler8905]

Must’ve been 3 or 4 years since I’ve watched this. Still just as good as ever xD

[@digitalblasphemy1100]

pretty brutal critic.

[@squidwardrocs]

to be honest he was correcting some wrong information that the speedrunner was giving, he did commend the speedrunner on some of the things he did right.

[@digitalblasphemy1100]

squidwardrocs11 I know. I watched the entire video and still think it was a pretty brutal critic.

[@ROBLOXVIDSFORNOOBS]

If Gordan Ramsay became a speedrunner

[@enygmaenigmatic8156]

Unsure of what's more annoying, Aleck's constant Speed Cap in unnecessary areas or Naegleria's 1 frame perfect claims lol either or, GOD IM IRRITATED

[@ShosuCeladon]

It amazes me that Werster is criticizing the hell out of this noob while speed running. Now that's boss level gaming.

[@BeczaBot]

Wrestler ought to make money as a coach.

[@Eira_99]

Reminder that Werster is a previous world record holder, so he is absolutely right about all of this.

[@tylerd1297]

Yeah but the guy playing also surpassed Werster's time, eventually

[@Eira_99]

@@tylerd1297 Ok, how does that change anything. He got better later, doesn't mean Werster is wrong in this video.

[@tylerd1297]

@@Eira_99 it doesn't I was just saying because your comment was recent

[@manofleipe]

13:13 -"PFFFF~HUUURH HURRRH HUUUUH!! NOOU!"

[@odinogle]

"He didn't save the turtle... It's over guys."

[@HanakkoLove]

99% of comments: Why are people hating so much on Werster? 1% of comments: actual hate.

[@velaxibaldy932]

Because you don't sort by new. Hate comment never appear at top unless you scroll down so hard.

[@darklyXlit]

Does he do his pokemon stadium speedruns in one go, because 27 hours straight of playing would probably kill me.

[@raimonwintzer]

yes, one go

[@PhantomAarantula]

Werster is so fun to watch be critical, but I'd probably be terrified of him if he saw me speedrun a game. And I am not a speedrunner.

[@CDbiggen]

I have no idea what it all means or how any of this works, but this is a great video.

[@1gnore_me.]

there are few things in this world that bring me more joy than werster expressing his anger in an eloquent manner

[@raven3331]

Australian shitposting, In real life! wersters cool though, the other guy could have done better, but he probably was just trying not to screw up on the biggest speedrun event of the year, so I don't blame him either.

[@dLzzzgaming]

This was awesome, I'd love to see Werster do more speedrun reviews.

[@gr8b8m85]

That room must smell like shit.

[@stormcutter59]

Is this any different than people criticizing every NFL player on screen?

[@dLzzzgaming]

It wouls be the same, if the people criticizing NFL players were actually better NFL players than the ones they were watching.

[@terenceallen6541]

13:15 is better probably

[@weesnaws12345]

I thought the time goals on the left was for the sonic speedrunner

[@lucaslennan3356]

So I looked up the current world record and found out this guy and werster are actually tied for 4th place with 15:49.

[@marth8000]

to be fair to some of wersters comments he is right about speed runners and other kinds of professional players in various games always claiming "one frame tricks" mostly out of laziness to be specific, or trying to brag about skills which drives me nuts too xD in general 80% of those claims are BS and are waaay more than a single frame, SSBM comes to mind...

[@mrlucasftw42]

How to torture Werster - make him watch people do suboptimal speedruns. Should make him watch somebody else do Pokemon Stadium 100% runs done by anyone other than him

[@GolSil]

I want to git gud at speedrunning just to watch him and others react when I deliberately always catch the mascot Legendaries in Pokemon games and explain every FUCKING time because "they're strong and obviously should help do this faster".

[@callmezeldaonemoartime]

@@GolSil you’d be right if it was Emerald though

[@pendlemo22]

Booo....... BOOO

[@th3SyLvEsTeR]

Is he doing a speedrun while watching a speedrun? lol

[@Harmtronic]

19:00 😂

[@venomz8888]

Werster is probably the king of the school bullies at speed running academy

[@zVRTX]

man I love werster lmao

[@metalrockfanatic]

I know no one has commented in months but this is one of the best things I've seen. I really wish more of these were on youtube.

[@moka6058]

It's kind of ironic that both Werster and AlecK are now tied for 20th place with the exact same time.

[@jordanibrahim743]

Still watching in 2020!

[@elh7259]

"What is with all the rolling? You know you can just run right?" - Every For Glory player ever.

[@Ravenforce3]

Stay classy, Werster.

[@BrickNGames]

17:51 Werster is a competitive smasher?? lol

[@Alienrun]

lol

[@BrickNGames]

the fuck

[@thundercurrie0]

@@BrickNGames hi

[@chumychumychoo]

yo is that Chris chan right there?

[@TimsonHD]

i love you werster

[@TheDodu]

13:12 best part xD

[@flaviusbelisarius7791]

Werster isn’t an asshole he’s just passionate and Australian

[@johnmartinez7440]

They're not mutually exclusive.

[@FurryWulfz]

In the runner's defense, how much does Werster reset when a run goes south? Can this guy reset? No? There you go.

[@FireEmblemForceman81]

To be honest I'd love to hear Werster's thoughts on the Sacred Stones speedrun in AGDQ a few years ago. That run was horrible.

[@nightangel7239]

Except for the part where, you know, the runner wasted time. Even if he can't reset, he wasted time on a lot of occasions. Like choosing to die towards the start.

[@TheMineMappers]

***** The thing is that this run was made in a marathon, and you do not reset in a marathon unless you fail in like some RNG manipulation or softlock the game. Werster Tries to get a PB always.

[@FurryWulfz]

That was my point. Look at any of Wersters GDQ runs in perspective to this; he fucks up in them all too somewhat I believe.

[@MxMoondoggie]

***** Well sort of. The one that went horribly wrong was the Knuckles in Sonic 2 race and he even said that it was crappy for him it still wasn't as bad as this run. He never messed up on an actual trick or zip though as far as i can recall in his Sonic runs and he pulls off some really difficult ones flawlessly in Sonic 3 and Knuckles. This guy in Sonic 2 messes up really simple zips. Just look at the one Werster does in Marble Garden in Sonic 3 and Knuckles at AGDQ it's ridiculous how fast he does it.

[@tamacat2001]

Imagine a marching band, a marching band, like of 200 people.

[@Superkidra]

17:50 When anyone with decent game-playing ability watches Werster try

[@pedepatopimenta]

why is this so entertaining?

[@brunof3611]

I don't know who this Mistermv is, but it sounds just like Yamcha.

[@pallathion6126]

HHAHAHA i lost it when he said epic speedrun m8, fucking werster is a legend!

[@jasonc1996]

W E A K

[@paulkerrigan9857]

Hahah. Everybody does this. It's pride! I'm the same - not with games, but the few things I'm good at.

[@Silver_Paladin]

"24 tho reset"

[@JangoPeppers]

Hell's Speedrun

[@Adultguj]

What a hotshot. He seems like the type of gamer that blames the game whenever he fucks up himself.

[@tomisj777]

If you watch his stream, he does it EVERY SINGLE TIME he fucks up.

[@CandyCosmic]

tomisj777 That's because the game he runs is pokemon, and so much of the game is RNG. Who else can he blame when some bullshit crit/miss/secondary effect/poor damage range/bad randomized attack/bad random encounter/bad pokeball happens?

[@tomisj777]

CandyCosmic Complaining is one thing. To do it with the amount of anger and ferocity that he does is just childish

[@CandyCosmic]

Fair enough.

[@xxProjectJxx]

CandyCosmic Yet he still chooses to run these games despite that. He has no right to complain about such things the way he does, he willingly chooses to run such a luck based game.

[@plytx4665]

In the end, these events are for a great cause - gotta love King Werster anyway. :-)

[@chungman6167]

Werster and AlecK are currently tied on the leaderboards rn for Sonic 2 Full Game lol.

[@KingToll]

Werster needs to come to another games done quick!

[@donpicklle2663]

14:15 "Fuck me!" Gladly...

[@overthemountain90]

This video made me super sonicish.

[@SkiGamingCorner]

OMFG i get y werster was raging at them, fuck that speed run was fucked from the start

[@sombreset9792]

The fact that he’s 27 hours into a speedrun while doing this

[@colinnzflakk349]

10:14 Tails had one chance to change teh urn but failed.

[@Harmtronic]

27:20

[@flariz4824]

16:48