Harbor Freight Freevalve 2.0

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Wesley Kagan

Wesley Kagan

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@gloriushumbug5832
@gloriushumbug5832 3 жыл бұрын
As a mechanical engineer in the making I love your content. This is what I love about engineering. Prototyping trying to solve problems
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree- honestly prototyping is my favorite thing to do and probably why I have so many projects laying around!
@captainnapalm8207
@captainnapalm8207 3 жыл бұрын
Pray for me, or at least wish me luck. I'm going to college in the fall for mechanical engineering. Fingers crossed. 🤞 Also, anyone else have the sudden urge to tear apart both of their go kart motors?
@carwashadamcooper1538
@carwashadamcooper1538 3 жыл бұрын
@@captainnapalm8207 take apart anything you want, just remember how it goes back together. You'll learn more from one 5hp engine than ten college "professors" Good luck, and don't give up.
@hernandovillamarinbuenaven7476
@hernandovillamarinbuenaven7476 2 жыл бұрын
@@carwashadamcooper1538 VERY accurate comment!!. 😊🏆
@williamhardes8081
@williamhardes8081 2 жыл бұрын
@@carwashadamcooper1538 the best things ever invented for this are, the sharpie/marker, the clip lock bag and a digital camera. works every time except when you loose the bags of small components (i put them somewhere safe!) and the digital photos you took. i am very special. bet that's a good example of what not to do. DOH!
@WatchJRGo
@WatchJRGo 3 жыл бұрын
That is one high-end whiteboard 💯
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
Hah! Thank you. Its a nice addition to the orange wall
@therealboofighter
@therealboofighter 3 жыл бұрын
I knew you had good taste, seeing you on this channel confirms this.
@vardfriki7274
@vardfriki7274 3 жыл бұрын
Curious, would a larger number of smaller holes make for snappier valve transition time with less travel and better af charge distribution?
@TheThunderwars
@TheThunderwars 3 жыл бұрын
You're amazing man. I have two masters in engineering and a thesis in vibrations analysis and I do some experiment on my free time. Last thing I did is accoustic tuning on all my vehicles at exactly the expected peak power rpm, a lot of experiment, a lot of 3D printing for velocity stacks, and a lot of time spent for a few hard earned bhp. But the fun is in trying...
@georgertheexplorer4114
@georgertheexplorer4114 3 жыл бұрын
right? even if its not the most time effective way to get power it sounds so cool to figure that stuff out and make it work
@ScrimbloTheSquid
@ScrimbloTheSquid 3 жыл бұрын
because that's truly your own creation, not someone else, not something on any other car, its a true custom modification, something that I aspire to do myself, its not about the hp it never really is, its about it being yours, and I can say confidently thats you've really made your car yours. =)
@1mawesomel1kethat
@1mawesomel1kethat 2 жыл бұрын
I've thought about this myself but haven't gone into too much depth, wouldn't it be possible to use thermoacoustic refrigeration to keep engine coolant at the proper temperature without the use of a radiator, it seems like it would be an effective way at removing heat without sending coolant through a car component that has a pretty high change of failure.
@projector7141
@projector7141 Жыл бұрын
Gonna do the same for my velocity stacks on an Alfa Romeo. They start of oval and are fed by a cylindrical plenum each. So gonna start off with a hull() to smooth the transition.
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 3 жыл бұрын
"Proof of concept, PROOF OF CONCEPT!!" Thus is something people just can't internalize when they criticize projects like this.
@keesanker4241
@keesanker4241 3 жыл бұрын
When I design something I love feedback, good or bad, let's me know what to fix and other important things I have to look out for, it can only make my design better. Many times before designing something I actually look out for people that have done something like I am going to design, and I read the feedback they've gotten. Makes my brain work and put a lot more thought in it
@youkofoxy
@youkofoxy 3 жыл бұрын
I am just amazed at him managing to get it to work without a quad zero budget.
@ВасилийЖигулин-ш1ф
@ВасилийЖигулин-ш1ф 2 жыл бұрын
@@youkofoxy механик
@Z0rr0sBlade
@Z0rr0sBlade 3 жыл бұрын
Wesley, I'm in phoenix also, and have a chassis dyno in my home shop. Should you ever need a dyno, let me know! (I know this does not pertain to freevalve, but it could)
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough, thank you! I need to get some projects running first haha.
@MrMartinSchou
@MrMartinSchou 3 жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely not a car guy, but isn't one of the advantages to freevalve supposed to be more power due to better valve control?
@garyhowe88
@garyhowe88 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMartinSchou wouldn't say more out right power, but better driveabilty for sure, as you could essentially have the exactly amount of life you need for what ever load/rpm your at.
@vertigoalopolus
@vertigoalopolus 3 жыл бұрын
@@garyhowe88 Theoretically you could do without a throttle body, using the valves themselves to control engine speed. One step better than ITB's.
@chikendagr8994
@chikendagr8994 3 жыл бұрын
@@vertigoalopolus I believe thats what BMW does
@calholli
@calholli 3 жыл бұрын
This rotary valve is exactly how the intake valve works on Rotax 2 stroke engines for snowmobiles. It works super reliably.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 3 жыл бұрын
Sure, but it's not in the top of the combustion chamber.
@richardprice5978
@richardprice5978 3 жыл бұрын
unfortunately rotary valves have hard time sealing and leak /wear /burn oil more typically than poppet valves do plus it can be challenging to manage thermals to a manageable working temperature for most materials ect. so i see this as probably being a dead end engineering experiment / exorcise wise to solve the problems ( closest to solving the problems in 80+ years is coats international INC. used in stand by 1MWH+ V16 power generators ) ( and pre-14~ year old me had a idea 💡 similar to wesley's 💡's mixed with coats camshaft with 2 stepper motors pur-head / bank plus geared sleeve valves for 2 stroke mode ect. sort of but different and in a X20 cylinder engine 9+L ( 1000 CI ) size 120 mm bore spacing. so id love it to work just to vindicate my ideas that i still like but can't build it now as i don't have any big real manufacturing capacity aka a large cnc mill to do so and now to European union /EPA is being a party pooper 🚽 so i don't know what would happen if i did get it to start legally speaking let alone put it in something ) you would have a easier time using rotary sleeve valves aka rotating sleeves with holes to time it and some of this i have considered using on my v8 so that's how I know about it plus if can get it to seal " it will have less thrust wear and scuffing ring /piston wear " but thats not my word or work but would like to put that to the test i don't know if that matters in my application or not or would be a noticeable differences as im using funky to the v8 crowd nissan VCR turbo style rods. im using 16 ( split into 2 mechanical sections for the 2:1 24x24mm lift rollers as i don't have as much faith in computers not to screw up ( and my camshaft is a back up for no ecu/fails safe mode ) as others like catiapiler tried it in the 1990's-2010 ish with the huwi system ( used on the ford 7.3 powestroke engine for ⛽️ control and other ones ect. ) aka no camshaft for both diesel injection timing and valve timing's in a prototype semi ( 20-80 trucks /bus 🚌 delivered for testing which was successful program until it kept 💥 the same way and was o most used in regular production ) application and it failed to work reliably after 100kish-300k miles and had a rod got thorough the block and bent valves from ecu 48 vdc drivers frying/slow or sticking a little from normal carbon build up/wear unlike wesley's ( at least he can back up the coding and looks like it works correctly minus great VVL 1 to2 mm control as mine isn't as solidly coded yet as im better at the mechanical control side of things and or a little relay logic aka haven't got it to reliably start on command yet with the plc coding ) and "free valve " air systems that i can't fully 💯 trust yet and or have there own pros and cons ) jerk pumps and 16 lift cylinders ( 24 mm diameter by 16mm tall 60~ mm valves head size ) with the under side acting like ( PLC ajustable pressure control / desmotronic system / with 3k psi max hydraulic acuilator as back up ) f1 springs in conjunction with 50-110 ish on the seat steel head springs cam side is 50ish ( for start up so the valves don't smack the pistons or valve float on any parts and be in time faster ) hydraulics and 2 LT4 30*or-30* phasers ( front is a gear drive with one scissor gear and phaser acting as a vibration damper to quite it down and for the ecu signals like cam position aka same as the LT4 chevy ) and 60mm cam pattern full racing v8 310ish square duration ( 7k max after = 💥 normal rpm 5-6k red line ) max ramp jerk rate grind 2:1 rocker ratio 8 mm to 16 mm full lift with the computer ( measured at the vary top of the 10 mm oil cooled hollow valve stem and tulip head and keepers and retainers with the sensors ( i will try laser pointed downward at the tip or hall effect / magnetic on the outside of the top of the lifter bore housing under the valve covers / cylinder hemi heads ) just like different ways a spintron keeps track of the valves / strategy's of controlling the valves for camshaft development as i don't care as much about the pumpers as long as the rollers/valve train don't self destruct 💥 and or fuel control ⛽️ and spark ⚡️ control ) cutting it in half and minim lift is 2mm~ ( unless its in skip-fire mode / v4 mode then its 0 lift ) computer settings for a pattern ish as the gen-4 viper is a v10 72* firing angle vs 90* v8 and or v8 ford voodoo firing order which is what im thinking 🤔 of switching it to instead of leaving it alone. Similar ideas 💡 to the tiger stark engine 2L and other engines set up to time my current charger 440+ci ( 108X114mm stroke) dodge. A way over simplified explanation for youtube comment section if someone whats i guess you can find my other web posts about it to find more details about it or ask me
@DiscoFang
@DiscoFang 3 жыл бұрын
Uuhh not quite "exactly". Rotax rotary valves aren't exposed to combustion pressures at all, they inlet into the crankcase.
@ACatKrom
@ACatKrom 2 жыл бұрын
Rotax hasnt used a rotary valve in well over 20 years. Its been almost 30 years since they released a new engine that used RV instead of reeds. Even then the RV was between the carb and crankcase.
@iwalker1985
@iwalker1985 2 жыл бұрын
It’s called desmodromics in a Ducati. Spoke too soon I was referring to the beginning of the video. You are correct about the rotary valves but if I’m not mistaken they were two stroke engines as opposed to this 4 stroke engine.
@JerGol
@JerGol 3 жыл бұрын
Stoked to see you've reached 100k subs! Thoroughly deserved. 👏🏼😎
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It’s still crazy to me haha.
@zidarfpv348
@zidarfpv348 3 жыл бұрын
@@WesleyKagan I think it's crazy too, the miata freevalve video was the most fake video i've ever seen.....
@SaintBuick
@SaintBuick 3 жыл бұрын
@@zidarfpv348 Oh look, a troll.
@802Garage
@802Garage 3 жыл бұрын
@@WesleyKagan Oh yes I meant to say congratulations as well! One of the fastest growing channels I have seen in quite some time. Well deserved.
@calholli
@calholli 3 жыл бұрын
@@WesleyKagan It shouldn't be that crazy... You're like a rocket scientist over here.
@twothreebravo
@twothreebravo 3 жыл бұрын
"Welcome back to the Internet" Thanks, but I never actually leave.
@deesnutz42069
@deesnutz42069 3 жыл бұрын
I might as well have been born on this here internet. Reckon I might die on it too.
@twothreebravo
@twothreebravo 3 жыл бұрын
@@deesnutz42069 sad truth.
@ix0s
@ix0s 3 жыл бұрын
get off my lawn, which is littered with the remnants of AOL floppy disks!
@stuart207
@stuart207 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you are one of the first trying to adapt the free valve here on yt... ONE OF THE FIRST! Do not give up on this mate, its the future tech everyone wants.
@onefastgmc
@onefastgmc 3 жыл бұрын
Man between this and liquid piston, I'm super excited for the future of the internal combustion engine. Free valve tech theoretically means you have unlimited tuning capabilities over the valve train up to the limit of whatever system works the best among other systems such as ignition. Super cool!
@ro63rto
@ro63rto 3 жыл бұрын
Whelp, in Europe bthey want to ban the sale of new cars with petrol engines from 2030 onwards so we'll probably never see this tech on our roads.
@3th1xs
@3th1xs 3 жыл бұрын
@@ro63rto but maybe our lawnmowers!
@geemy9675
@geemy9675 2 жыл бұрын
yes freevalve does take engine tuning to the next level. you can have different valve lift, duration and timing for every combination of throttle, engine load, rpm, o2 sensor, intake air temperature.... with powerful electronics, lots of sensor, and smart software you can have "perfect" combustion, AF ratio, power and effficiency in every condition. you can also have self tuning software you can also modify the cycle like atkinson for efficiency, get rid of throttle body and pumping loss, bring the engine to temperature quicker, add some "air brake" engine breaking, but also, if the manufacturers does a really good job from the beginning, there is not much you can improve. basically you can reduce reliability/efficiency at full load and increase the parameters like redline, max valve duration/overlap
@zh.6795
@zh.6795 3 жыл бұрын
I never understand anything that is said, however, it is still very interesting.
@calholli
@calholli 3 жыл бұрын
@MrAbletospeak Like a woman.
@Digital-Dan
@Digital-Dan 3 жыл бұрын
He's replacing the normal way of opening and closing engine valves (a spinning cam timed with the movement of the piston) with sensors, pneumatic valve moving devices, and a computer to control the whole thing. It has some advantages, and ultimately could be cheaper, if it weren't for the fact that electric motors are going to replace these crazy machines anyhow.
@km6832
@km6832 3 жыл бұрын
Likewise, i watches this twice and still dont grasp it. But i thought he revised the pneumatic system, not create a new one
@Dappersworth
@Dappersworth 3 жыл бұрын
@@Digital-Dan If car manufacturers actually made gas vehicles as efficient as they could, cars would have 5 gallon gas tanks max. 100+ mpg easy. But they gotta keep gasoline companies making as much money as possible so that'll never happen.
@ThomasBrandell
@ThomasBrandell 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dappersworth the main reason that they aren’t more efficient (mpg-wise) is more due to the weight of the vehicle, where a lot of the mass comes in the form of safety equipment and comfort. Cars are designed to plastically deform in the case of an accident, which is a significant portion of the car’s weight. College clubs make vehicles that can go over 100mpg all the time, but they are not fast, comfortable, or safe to drive in normal roads. Not everything is a conspiracy. A bigger gripe I have is the additional government backing traditional ICE manufacturers had been getting compared to EV’s
@twentylush
@twentylush 3 жыл бұрын
RTJ3? A man of jewel running i see
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite albums.
@deciplesteve
@deciplesteve 3 жыл бұрын
Was just about to comment on this, myself.
@amjrpain919
@amjrpain919 3 жыл бұрын
I like music stuff!
@deltacharlieecho4732
@deltacharlieecho4732 3 жыл бұрын
Between you and StuffMadeHere I don't know who does more of the "it's not right but lets do it anyway" stuff. Thank god for you both.
@htownblue11
@htownblue11 3 жыл бұрын
When genius meets creativity meets intelligent humor you get Wes and his epic mechanical journey adventures. Never stop my man. Congrats on 100K!!! Truthfully you deserve a few million at least.
@stevenbaumann1592
@stevenbaumann1592 3 жыл бұрын
A negative result is still a result. As long as you keep learning and improving the design you will have a pretty neat system when you are all done. Keep up the good work these are pretty fun to watch.
@JoshPutnam1
@JoshPutnam1 2 жыл бұрын
Next, a 392 hemi freevalve! Imagine the game change of re-engineering the MDS so that the lifters don't wear to failure... Not to mention running it two stroke, or with a gas diesel mixture. Dude, I love your videos. And with your open-source mentality, I think you're a good human being too. Rock on
@paulpas
@paulpas 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I had come to the same "knife gate" approach on my designs about 15 years ago. I'm happy to see it being explored.
@OCtheG
@OCtheG 3 жыл бұрын
You’ve inspired me to get a version of this running on a 3.7L V6 Mustang! Can’t wait for the open source files
@MrMaxitaple
@MrMaxitaple 3 жыл бұрын
Keep us update
@OCtheG
@OCtheG 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMaxitaple You got it, I’m currently in the process of allocating the middle armrest cigarette lighter to a 5V VRM module to power a raspberry Pi to be the microcontroller for this new functionality, as long as it’s in there also trying to get an active aero spoiler set up based off the speedometer voltage wire. I’ll definitely update if and when I get it functionally online!
@makiah_s
@makiah_s 3 жыл бұрын
@@OCtheG looking forward to your progress
@mikecobb8328
@mikecobb8328 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job Wesley!!! I accidentally stumbled across your video in researching engine efficiency, as I’m developing a Hot Vapor Engine. You design is the closest I’ve ever seen to a design I had in 1984. The largest difference between yours and mine is, mine was 100%. Smokey Yunick said the RPM to any reasonable engine is the valve train. I wish you were closer to Houston, we could perfect it and build some things! I have an incredible fabricator/machinist, and Ex-NASA friends for programming.
@mikecobb8328
@mikecobb8328 2 жыл бұрын
100% mechanical.
@grantbierlmeier7641
@grantbierlmeier7641 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I had thought of this basic valve configuration a long time ago as I am sure others did too. However I lack the intelligence training and skills to ever try and implement the concept. All this is to say - wow again - SO cool!
@Nevir202
@Nevir202 3 жыл бұрын
I had a similar idea once, though it was using a very large cam which was partially cut away so that it acted as the intake runner as it spun. This is really cool to see.
@jesperwall839
@jesperwall839 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel for the same reason I love the channel 2stroke Stuffing. Great ideas and the guts to try them out in real life 👍😀
@SingleHandedly
@SingleHandedly 3 жыл бұрын
Just be glad you live where sweat evaporates. I’m looking at you, Florida.
@mrawesomelemons
@mrawesomelemons 3 жыл бұрын
This is just one of the best channels on KZbin.
@jakobboers5067
@jakobboers5067 3 жыл бұрын
I understand about 5% of what you're talking about but it's fascinating. Good stuff man!
@ASuperBambi
@ASuperBambi 3 жыл бұрын
I hope I can one day have my own space to work on my car like this. You don't have an abundance of machinery or tools, but you are still able to tackle incredibly complex projects. Congrats on 100k subs and I just joined your patreon!
@atypicalbnc
@atypicalbnc 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I feel your pain. I work for a company that uses a large amount of pneumatically-automated equipment. The variability in machine behavior on a daily basis following any change in the local weather has been a sufficient motivator to start migrating the automation systems away from pneumatics.
@A9KKK
@A9KKK 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I am just about to go into mechatronics engineering in university next school year and to be honest all of your videos get me so excited and only affirm my interest in the field. I love the way you genuinely tackle all of your video topics with a full engineering approach. Just wanted to say thanks for making me even more sure of my decision to go into this field!
@100PercentJake
@100PercentJake 3 жыл бұрын
Keeping those rotary valves sealed in any kind of actual ICE application seems like it would be a nightmare. I'm looking forward to how you tackle this issue.
@budgreenjeans
@budgreenjeans 3 жыл бұрын
Wait till you see “two stroke stuffing”
@GregoryVeizades
@GregoryVeizades 3 жыл бұрын
You could use side seals like what Rotary engines have.
@CRbbt
@CRbbt 3 жыл бұрын
I believe sealing the combustion chamber is the main issue holding back most rotary valve designs and the non-uniform heating of the valve
@m3chanist
@m3chanist 3 жыл бұрын
Aprilla, rotax, canam etc all managed it
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 3 жыл бұрын
@@m3chanist No, I don't think they did. Rotary valves in two-stroke engines normally just modify effective port opening, so they're not exposed to the combustion chamber near the top of the stroke (and thus peak pressures and temperatures).
@nathand7560
@nathand7560 3 жыл бұрын
No one can deny this man puts out unique content 👌
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll take unique.
@aaronrobinson7320
@aaronrobinson7320 3 жыл бұрын
Greatest automotive engineering channel on KZbin!! Love your work!
@davidelang
@davidelang 3 жыл бұрын
I love the work. I've been noodling over a design for a steam engine with cylinders arranged like the bullets in a revolver for years, and one thing I've been thinking of is having one large disk to act as the valves, one radius matching the intake, another matching the exhaust. This wouldn't be as compact as what you did here, but only needs one motor (I was planning to gear it directly to the crankshaft for the steam engine) and the effective valve area would be able to be much larger.
@AlexK-jp9nc
@AlexK-jp9nc 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds really cool!
@Arkoss
@Arkoss 3 жыл бұрын
There is something about your method that I really enjoy. Keep bringing these kinds of videos. They never seem to last enough hahah, I could watch hours of you experimenting with stuff
@motoxmuseum
@motoxmuseum 3 жыл бұрын
Using a rotary disk to act as the valves for a 4-stroke was my graduate project in 1980. It was based on a Honda XL250 engine. Obviously, a mechanical drive system as this level of electronics was not available at that time. The design used an elliptical drive gear to speed up and slow down the rotation of the valve so the valve was moving as slow as possible at the peak point of cylinder pressure. The rotary valve was sealed used a Dykes - ring or L-ring in the head against the valve. This used the cylinder pressure as a force against the ring to seal. The design was in my opinion very workable however the amount of funding needed to build a prototype meant it would only exist as a paper design. Of course, I was not the first person to conceptualize a rotary valve for a 4-stroke engine. There were several designs done in the pre-world War 2 era for aircraft engines in the UK. Those designs were based on a cone that rotated on the outside of the combustion chamber. There was enough data from these engines to show that a rotary valve design would have enormous advantages in fuel consumption and performance. The challenge was resolving the mechanical challenges to have a reliable engine. Ultimately, the use of a rotary disk creates disadvantages with the bore of the engine and the bore-to-bore spacing making it a questionable technology for multi-cylinder engines. It is fun to see someone 41 years later still working on the concept. Good luck.
@hotmalevb
@hotmalevb 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me a rotary valve engine. Something I wanted to build for a long time. I love the ingenuity. Keep it up.
@calholli
@calholli 3 жыл бұрын
Rotax 2 strokes have rotary intake valves.
@hotmalevb
@hotmalevb 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry I meant Rotary Valve Head. There are no springs on the valves, just a rotating ports that line up with the ports in the head just like what Wesley is doing. I am not familiar with the Rotax, but something I will need to check out.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 3 жыл бұрын
@@calholli Yes, but those two-stroke intake control rotary valves are not exposed to the combustion chamber, so they're much more practical.
@thechemtrailkid
@thechemtrailkid 2 жыл бұрын
oh man, thank you for this. i've always wondered if valve of this design would even work. super cool stuff man
@BrawlerTheSmokyDutchMan
@BrawlerTheSmokyDutchMan 3 жыл бұрын
bro you have something that normal people never even come close to, hope your channel grows a lot. :) keep doing what you're doing :)
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@tommasomincuzzi8560
@tommasomincuzzi8560 3 жыл бұрын
Time for a free-sleeve-valve system! With the Arduino controlling the sleeve phasing, maybe with two sleeves rotating separately, each one controlled by the Arduino
@ebrewste
@ebrewste 3 жыл бұрын
Computer controlled rotary valves? Yes please!
@greenthumb9406
@greenthumb9406 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, you grew so fast I can’t even keep track! 100k already, congratulations, keep up the great work. I wouldn’t really call myself “technical” but all the experiments and everything keeps me entertained.
@WildcatWarrior15
@WildcatWarrior15 3 жыл бұрын
MechE here: I lost it at "Air Squishyness Formula". If everything is shiny and perfect, you're not trying hard enough! Keep it up!
@singerdesign
@singerdesign 3 жыл бұрын
Such a badass, really enjoy how you're improving the production quality of the videos too.
@jayinmi3706
@jayinmi3706 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, your channel has really taken off! Congrats! This was the project that brought me here, but the V12 Vette is also piquing my interest
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, I’m trying to continue a few of these projects instead of starting new ones ahah.
@MrHamof
@MrHamof 3 жыл бұрын
So apparently this can be accessed from the playlist even though it's unlisted.
@JohnDobak
@JohnDobak 3 жыл бұрын
sorcery
@calholli
@calholli 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah.. I've seen that on many channels.
@thebibidu
@thebibidu 3 жыл бұрын
Cool project! The disc distribution is similar to 2 stroke 500 Suzuki RG gamma. I used this idea in final year project, only I used hollow camshafts with ports that would align to intake and exhaust. I think sealing a rotating tube is somewhat easier. Good luck on future iterations, I'll watch them with great interest!
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yeah, 2 stroke engines have had this for a while, but they are mechanically controlled of course. And
@joerodriguez4130
@joerodriguez4130 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel n love the way you think. I myself am determined to design and blueprint my own combustion motor with least amount of parts and resistance, while being as efficient as possible
@jebysblog
@jebysblog 3 жыл бұрын
Messing with rotary disc valves, this is exactly how Herr Felix Wankel started! If you look on the interweb you can find a lot of material about his early works with rotary valves and how he solved the sealing issues for the valve sitting on the engine head. A V8 engine with disc valves was actually placed in a German torpedo
@ericchambers9023
@ericchambers9023 3 жыл бұрын
If you continue with the stepper motor design, you should look into using servo motors instead. Built in encoder position feedback, so you can have the microcontroller know where the valve actually is.
@discontinuuity
@discontinuuity 3 жыл бұрын
Rotary valves are nothing new, but I've never heard of anyone using stepper motors to move them. I can see this design having trouble with sealing, thermal expansion, and/or clogging up with combustion products. But it's a cool proof of concept. If you have trouble with sealing you could try Corliss valves. The pneumatic valves are still worth pursuing if you ask me. The pilot-operated valves located close to the head sound like a good idea. If differences in air temp are the problem you could put the air lines in a water jacket to keep everything consistent.
@budyeddi5814
@budyeddi5814 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the best content on YT!! Always a treat to see you've posted a new video ^_^
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@budyeddi5814
@budyeddi5814 3 жыл бұрын
@@WesleyKagan yes sir :) 👏👏👏
@802Garage
@802Garage 3 жыл бұрын
Really fun man! Most of my ideas for "free valve" style technology involve stepper motors. Not that I've even concepted one in CAD. Can't wait for another experimentation update.
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah will do, I’ll post some updates as I get it to work better
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 3 жыл бұрын
Individual stepper motors running individual camshafts for each valve is the Camcon "Intelligent Valve Actuation" (IVA) design. www.motorauthority.com/news/1119099_fully-digital-valves-could-change-the-future-of-the-combustion-engine
@802Garage
@802Garage 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianb-p6586 Thanks! I know I saw an article on it quite some time ago and could not find the same one. This is what most of my thoughts are on. It opens up countless possibilities never really considered for combustion engines.
@802Garage
@802Garage 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianb-p6586 I see they are already doing one of the main things I had thought of, which is an engine that can switch to 2 stroke, 6 stroke, 8 stroke, and in their case 12 stroke which I hadn't gone that far, hahaha. Cylinder deactivation can also of course be far more efficient. Jake braking also an option for all vehicles. Anyways, tons of cool possibilities.
@Ricochet1012
@Ricochet1012 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome keep it up! As an ME I love this content! Gives me inspiration to try to get a shop of tools like yours to try this on an LS I have.
@B0RN2RACE100
@B0RN2RACE100 3 жыл бұрын
I swear I was subscribed, but I fixed that now, top notch presentation and material.
@NotJo4Ever13
@NotJo4Ever13 3 жыл бұрын
Dude. I don’t know how I found your channel… and I don’t know how you are so smart… but jeezuz you are farking brilliant. Keep it up!!!!!
@Oldsmobile69
@Oldsmobile69 2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a documentary in the 90's about an engine where instead of valves it had a thick cam that just had notches cut in it to let the air out/in. Probably had some serious air mixing or timing issues or it would be in common use today.
@ajgonzalez5109
@ajgonzalez5109 3 жыл бұрын
I love Wesley's taste in music, RTJ rocks!!
@christianmccollum1028
@christianmccollum1028 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome hypothesis, print/build, and experimentation! Keep at it, man. You are definitely heading in the right direction!
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TheCooldude534
@TheCooldude534 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s go Wesley is getting big miss seeing your crazy cars at highschool
@sandpiper1515
@sandpiper1515 3 жыл бұрын
A car I think you would be interested in is to 1996-1999 Taurus SHO with the 3.4 v8. I seem to like the cars you like and think you may find it interesting.
@simoncosta7111
@simoncosta7111 2 жыл бұрын
Love the wall mount computer good luck with da build
@jflo4073
@jflo4073 3 жыл бұрын
I would probably explore the idea of solenoids controlling the oil flow to hydraulic cam actuators. Oil, not air because squishiness. And in a car engine you already have oil pressure to work with, just like in variable timing applications.
@Lazaralis
@Lazaralis 3 жыл бұрын
Except when the engine isn't running. Then oil pressure needs time to build, you know, when the engine is running.
@OMY005
@OMY005 3 жыл бұрын
Fiat/Alfa Romeo do similar to this with their multiair engines?
@thetrainshop
@thetrainshop 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lazaralis prelube pump, or something similar to how CATs HEUI system worked but with a wholly separate electric driven hydraulic system.
@derKameramann
@derKameramann 3 жыл бұрын
Im exited! Not only the winner of the James Watt Lookalikecontest but also happily experimenting on the true Sound of Steamengines.
@kj_mechanic6789
@kj_mechanic6789 3 жыл бұрын
I like your videos mate, I really wish that with you we all could make this market ready ! I'd really wish that everyone could put this on their engine's cylinder head to make it more efficient, there are so many options; you could run the engine with an very economic less power "camprofile" or with an high power one. If this gets market ready on engines it might literally save the combustion engine in Europe and or elsewhere.
@doug5541
@doug5541 3 жыл бұрын
that is cool best of luck to ya getting it were ya want it i cant wait to see it along the way
@hondatech5000
@hondatech5000 3 жыл бұрын
Gates what a fantastic idea. Two stroke turbo Miata ftw
@Ominous.1
@Ominous.1 3 жыл бұрын
i heard about you on a podcast they were talking bout free valve application if used on a motorcycle.. i subscribed! cool stuff, and the ducati reference sealed it for me haha
@Tony-ib2vm
@Tony-ib2vm 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Coates spherical rotary valve. Or RCV glow engines. With the materials and precision needed to get long life from poppet valves, rotary valves are special beast, tbc's might be a necessity.
@Sisyphus1942
@Sisyphus1942 3 жыл бұрын
I recall in a previous video you mentioned wanting to switch to solenoids. I know you also said you didnt want to use springs but it seems like itd be fairly simple to pull the valves back to closed with a vacuum, which is basically just replacing the traditional spring with a $1.25 piece of plastic so I'd understand if you wanted to just find a ridiculously fast solonoid
@michaelappleman6172
@michaelappleman6172 3 жыл бұрын
Rotary (and sleeve) valves have an ancient and illustrious history, especially in 2-strokes where they made the MZ's, and soon after the Japanese grand prix bikes unstoppable in the 1960's-70's, but in those engines they were upstream of the combustion chamber and didn't have to deal with sealing high compression in a 4 stroke or deal with exhaust temperature. If you can figure out how to solve those problems, you'll be an engineering superhero!
@Acecool
@Acecool 3 жыл бұрын
You could use the hall effect sensor with one main magnet for rpm, then use a secondary for timing... The rpm is so you can reliably predict where you expect the rotation will be without skipping teeth, then the secondary one will be so you can gauge where the wheel is using different size magnets so you get a different reading - this will let you explicitly define what each means. From there you can + or - in the code when it hits those spots... so the main rpm will guide the motors so it should be close, then the others are for exact - this is where you should be. You can simplify it and use those variable magnets for rpm knowing how many there should be. So limit the number to how many explicit instances you want - you can use piston location for full top, full bottom, or 4, or the number of individual valve movements, full open, start open / end open, etc... you won't need that many.
@aaronrickard4675
@aaronrickard4675 3 жыл бұрын
Kawasaki used a similar design on their 2 cycle enduros back in the day called a rotary valve timed on the crankshaft super cool vid👍
@AmaroqStarwind
@AmaroqStarwind 3 жыл бұрын
Some more little projects/experiments to maybe try...: - Tank steering on a car? And how about a racing half-track? - How well would spark-controlled compression ignition work on a diesel engine? - Hydrogen Peroxide injection during combustion? (There's a pretty convincing research paper I read that tested this on a diesel engine; thermal efficiency went up, but emissions and temperature surprisingly went down.) - Virtual Jake Brake when doing Freevalve stuff(?) - What happens if you put an ICE and a Stirling engine on the same crankshaft; Could you use the ICE's exhaust manifold to power the Stirling engine? - For science, do you think you could use modern technology and knowledge to create a "next-generation" carburetor? (Yes, I know carburetors are obsolete, but I'm still curious.) - I'm trying to design a "variable inertia flywheel", which is supposed to expand at higher RPMs to simulate a smaller flywheel miraculously getting heavier. Do you think this would work? - What if you used vapor chambers and a peltier module to supercool your spark plugs? *Notice: I will not stop posting these different ideas on your videos until I see you try one of them.*
@mikluck
@mikluck 3 жыл бұрын
Have you considered using voice coils to drive the stock valves? Closer to the original free valve tech you started with I think. It would remove the 'squishy air' problem (not to mention voice coils for high speed/precision linear motion is just awesome).
@choochoorunner
@choochoorunner 2 жыл бұрын
Vừa vào đã nổi cả da gà 藍giọng a Phúc hayyy quá, mong sẽ tiếp tục cover ạ ❤️
@juldansharp4982
@juldansharp4982 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure I'm late to the party, but my personal input on rotating disk valves: 2strokestuffing used them on his personally designed motors to great success...temporarily. Turns out, a disk valve under intake and exhaust load becomes a disk brake. He started the journey of switching to a rotating cylinder/drum valve and I wonder if that would work well in freevalve applications as well
@williamhardes8081
@williamhardes8081 2 жыл бұрын
maybe a torrington bearing? could that help with the disc brake effect? separation of the surfaces would be controlled by how much you recess the bearing into the disc surface? not an engineer but just thought of it?
@GleepGlop2
@GleepGlop2 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 100k!
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bullinahanky
@bullinahanky 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I remember a very similar design from a book I once read on early motorcycle engine technologies. I’ll have to do some digging and see if I’ve still got that book somewhere.
@zoppp621
@zoppp621 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the BMW valvetronic system. In conjuction with VVT you have practically full control over cam phasing and lift.
@moesizlac2596
@moesizlac2596 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it would help to have the rotating "valve" be machined to fill a channel or grove in the head to help with some of the sealing issues. In a later design you could put a bushing in it...
@tycro
@tycro 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the 100k!
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@PyroFactor101
@PyroFactor101 3 жыл бұрын
Add a nut and bolt running though the shaft of the valve to strengthen it a bit, you should also give pteg or asa a try before going through the trouble of making it out of aluminum
@danielplumley2649
@danielplumley2649 3 жыл бұрын
Please keep working on this! I love the freevalve videos
@Venturestarx
@Venturestarx 2 жыл бұрын
This is similar to a valve system I invented about 17 years ago. Very cool!
@brandonkikoak2889
@brandonkikoak2889 3 жыл бұрын
Equal length tubing and proper manifolds will go a long way. Take air "squishiness" out of the way by neutralizing it in this manner.
@josephmills7186
@josephmills7186 3 жыл бұрын
congrats on 100k! love the videos dude (been here since first porschekart vid i saw on reddit)
@dolfandon7124
@dolfandon7124 3 жыл бұрын
What a cool idea! Here's hoping for success
@schneider1492
@schneider1492 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered a pneumatic bladder actuator. Air can get through a lot of tight holes that's why most pneumatic actuators are very temperature sensitive. a pneumatic piston has to keep pretty tight clearances so is it heats up it's going to seize. However a bladder is sealed and can use much looser tolerances on the item it's actuating. So as long as you're not getting everything hot enough to melt the rubber or silicone you should be fine.
@Nebbia_affaraccimiei
@Nebbia_affaraccimiei 3 жыл бұрын
100k!!! congrats
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It’s a huge milestone
@kw2519
@kw2519 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting idea. I think you’re on to something with the knife valve. Perhaps with a mechanism similar to a weighted distributor, but reversed so the hole is partially obscured when at low rpm(small amount of “valve lift”) then have counter weights that remove the blade from obscuring the hole as rpm increases. The idea would be a variable sized inlet diameter.
@StingrayOfficial
@StingrayOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
100,000!!! Well deserved!!! Awesome stuff.
@brandonhewitt2386
@brandonhewitt2386 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the concept. I wonder if a ball valve type would work? Love what you've done on the channel!
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Hah, funny enough I actually thought about that, and for the fun of it I might do that. It’ll work great with air, but as soon as I approach 400F it’ll all come apart. So exhaust won’t work very well.
@ferrariguy8278
@ferrariguy8278 3 жыл бұрын
@@WesleyKagan Would using a thermal coating help? (piston tops, valve faces, exhaust ports) Plenty of options on that like from TehcLineCoatings or SwainTech.
@jasgud
@jasgud 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever looked at 90s Bombardier Rotax 2 stroke. Snowmobiles, small planes, etc. They use a common rotorary valve for intake into a twin.
@nateking6629
@nateking6629 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I saw your channel from the comment you left on Drew Gooden's video and I'm glad I did. I watched your video on mechanical CPU's, and I'm looking forward to the continuation of it!
@heidelbergaren5054
@heidelbergaren5054 3 жыл бұрын
For being a shooting from the hips engineering approach - those screws are pretty nicely lined up :-)
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
All of that credit goes to my 3D printer haha.
@heidelbergaren5054
@heidelbergaren5054 3 жыл бұрын
@@WesleyKagan Actually meant for the assembly on your blue sheet, but yes, that too !
@benhowe2087
@benhowe2087 3 жыл бұрын
No need for the ports to be round. You could make massive openings in the head and corresponding ports for huge flow numbers at high rpm. You could also use multiple intake ports and use slid valves to close off the large ports at low rpm for better port velocity.
@THEONLYNIKOMATH
@THEONLYNIKOMATH 3 жыл бұрын
I've probably checked your channel over 20 times since you last video waiting for more. Love the content and keep it up. My dad has a very similar jaguar that he needs to get running 😅.
@allensmith8953
@allensmith8953 3 жыл бұрын
Loving it! Thanks for an update. 👍👍👍
@curtbaily
@curtbaily 3 жыл бұрын
Donut Media is hiring new hosts right now and you should def apply. love the vids man.
@rob180bhp5
@rob180bhp5 3 жыл бұрын
I have no words available every video amazes and entertains ,some failure is also successful keep it going 👍
@WesleyKagan
@WesleyKagan 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yeah it’s a lot of trial and working through issues!
@shoominati23
@shoominati23 2 жыл бұрын
Well you could try an updated version of the sleeve valve system used in the Willys-Knight engines where the entire cylinder liner rotates off a geared shaft from the crank
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