Working on a mx120 case that the pto will not stay on.
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@michaelmcdonald67273 ай бұрын
Hey Warren, great work at troubleshooting. Sure takes a long time to figure out the problem doesn’t it. But you’re the man to do it! Thanks much for our video.
@westerntruckandtractorrepa13533 ай бұрын
That procedure is definitely long and drawn out.
@Prariedog3 ай бұрын
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 safe travels bud have a good one
@raykaufman71563 ай бұрын
I haven't watched the whole video, so I assume you found something wrong other than the sensor. I have run into a similar problem with trailer ABS sensors. Since the sensor is a generator, it's possible that even 1ohm of line resistance may cause the variation between input and output readings. I don't know ANY of the particulars for your tractor, like how wide the allowable voltage variation is, so this is pure speculation based on general electrical principle. Always interesting to watch your troubleshooting videos!👍
@bombardier3qtrlbpsi3 ай бұрын
I thought I was the only one for leads to get tangled 😀 Nice job 👍
@Dparsons1163 ай бұрын
I work on dirt equipment, and electrical crap is the biggest issue. Farm equipment doesn't need all this crap it's one thing or another that always gives up the ghost. Great work again, Warren keep posting we all learn so mush from you😊
@thuggoe3 ай бұрын
The way you attack electric problems is something to be proud of
@justinarsenault19263 ай бұрын
Thanks for all your effort Warren. I really appreciate and enjoy your content.
@ssgviper71472 ай бұрын
I'm an Aerospace Engineer, been involved in all sorts of projects, troubleshooting etc. This fascinates me, subscribed and binge watched quite a few videos so far 😅. You've got quite the skill set, keep it up.
@westerntruckandtractorrepa13532 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@JohnTaylor-et4fd3 ай бұрын
Hi Warren I don't need any special perks, I just wanted to help reward you for the time it takes you to do the video.
@westerntruckandtractorrepa13533 ай бұрын
Thank you for the support.
@manddservice.manddservice3 ай бұрын
Warren, you are a Wizard when it comes to this type of Diagnostics. Crows Foot Toque wrench. Tac a socket to an open end wrench. That's why you save broken tools. A snapped wrench and a cracked socket. Thank you
@ChiefHasben3 ай бұрын
Nice work going through the lengthy process of elimination. I'll bet most non-mechanic people have no idea how much effort and time it takes to figure out mechanical problems in modern machinery. Great effort and work on determining the issue with this.
@roadsideservice24063 ай бұрын
Great video, love these troubleshooting videos, amazing how you can stay focused jumping back and forth on pages and still video
@robertpeters943821 күн бұрын
Man, we had the most rediculously tough harnesses for military electronics. I wish manufacturers used the tougher wire insulation. And we used to use a lot of cabling with multiple wires in the same flat molded cable...and some were twisted for noise immunity. That stuff was a bear to strip, but it really lasted.
@Cameron_D3 ай бұрын
You be getting old warren, needing glasses 🤗 It happens to the best of us, but fortunately it happens to the worst of us too.😛
@richardhoneywell74113 ай бұрын
Great video Warren really enjoy watching you troubleshoot the electrical problem on this tractor. Thanks for sharing stay safe Warren.
@daviddudley16553 ай бұрын
It's nice that you have such wonderful customers that are willing to help you out when needed
@richardlincoln84383 ай бұрын
Thanks for everything Warren. Best Wishes to You and Your Family.
@michaelmcdonald67273 ай бұрын
I was going to mention that I noticed you using your harbor freight air chuck. They work great and are cheap. Also you should get a clean piece of cardboard and put it in the front window to shade the tractor cab.
@johncrook44693 ай бұрын
On those PDF manuals I always open several tabs on the manual that way I can switch back n forth from pages. Thanks for the Video Warren!
@67moosic3 ай бұрын
On the MX magnums a quirky things can happen if the w wire on the alternator isn't giving the right reading for engine rpm. The PTO will run 6 seconds and quit. It happened to me when I didn't have the right wire on the W terminal. The dealer had it happened when the wrong size alternator pulley was used and they had get the original pulley back on.
@lastplacetrophy38212 ай бұрын
Detailed troubleshooting and good video edits like this are why I keep coming back!
@gregbird66153 ай бұрын
I’m late to the video, busy week in hay. Thanks for taking us along
@calumanderson56173 ай бұрын
All RIGHT!!! I've finally managed to join the membership team after trying for a week!! Thank you for the video Warren, hope my membership helps you. 👍
@KG-yn9qi3 ай бұрын
Hello buddy!! Wish could give you more support! Tool supplies dog treats! Say hi to wife for her support of all the hard work/time you put in!
@robertpeters943821 күн бұрын
Oh, for AI to get to the level that we can converse with the diagnostic expert system! And one that continually learns.
@terryrogers10253 ай бұрын
You sir, have the patience of a saint, nice job of trouble shooting a problem. I do enjoy watching the trouble shoot vids, thanks for the time and effort you put into videos Warren, appreciate them all.
@rickmiller95573 ай бұрын
Not a truck driver or farmer but you are a super mechanic love your videos
@rusty66663 ай бұрын
Nice to see you can borrow parts from your fellow customers to help find the problems sooner and not have to buy parts for nothing great work Warren ....
@johnwaby43212 ай бұрын
Don't you just love electrical problems. They sure do take some sorting out .😯😯. Good job you have got some information at hand 👍👍👍
@gutsngorrrr3 ай бұрын
It's great when you have really good customers that will help you out when you're in a pinch.
@jasonforth35503 ай бұрын
Another great video. Thanks Warren.
@d6c10k43 ай бұрын
You found the problem....I have seen on MX tractors that have a problem with the PTO kicking off that it's sometimes related to the alternator belt. Apparently it compares alternator speed and PTO speed and shuts off the PTO if it sees a difference. If the belt slips it causes the error. Not a great design.
@davidcraven2773 ай бұрын
In my experience a lot of equipment uses the alternator for tach signal we had one that the brake back up hydro pump would run all the time
@Peanutbeards3 ай бұрын
Thanks Warren for the content!
@rickcham77813 ай бұрын
I got some 3x reading glasses from the drug store for real small work. Works well. Thanks for the videos Warren.
@mfc45913 ай бұрын
Great content, very interesting diagnostic. give the pups a pat !
@maxpuppy963 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video Warren, I learn all the time on this channel, wealth of knowledge. Mechanics have a list of people they call when they are stuck you would be at the top if mine.
@markramsell4543 ай бұрын
That manual is like an escape room, where you have to find clues that will lead you out. But the manual has extra stuff to divert you from the desired solution. OMG. I hope you escape.
@ChrisHarding-lk3jj3 ай бұрын
When it comes to ohm testing and electrical diagnostic there is always a range provided. When it pertains to solenoids the resistance changes with temperature. It is very important to test your leads before every by touching them together and verify that they have 0 ohms or as close to 0 ohms as possible. I can't even count how many times I have been asked to help troubleshoot electrial problems and when I test the persons leads they have 4-20 ohms of resistance and everything they have previously tested must be tested again. When it comes to coils and solenoids I have a personal rule to replace the part if it varies by 5% more than the stated specification. Another common thing I see when it comes to electrical diagnostics is people not understanding how to properly set or use their multimeter. People get confused with range settings on meters without auto ranging or people get confused when the meter changes range from ohms to kiloohms, they do not understand that 5k ohms and 5000 ohms is the same thing. Harbor Freight has an optical tachometer that works pretty good.
@KStewart-th4sk2 ай бұрын
It's hard to believe that there are those who don't know 5k ohms and 5000 ohms are the same thing! But there are a lot of things that don't surprise me these days where schools are more concerned teaching about gender issues than teaching kids what they should be taught Math, English, Science, etc. Well i suppose it will make the politically correct go insane with me saying English but.....
@davidfoster58133 ай бұрын
Warren thank you for working as hard as you do and you've taught me a lot I've had to teach myself how to work on stuff
@ianleonard28293 ай бұрын
Theres one thing warren you're getting you're steps in on this job very informative video
@billdornan43793 ай бұрын
Morning Warren! Kindest regards,Bill 🇨🇦🇨🇦
@PeterLee-zn3jl3 ай бұрын
Thorough...tenacious..patient...and CLEVER EXPERIENCED TECH...YOU KNOW MUCH OF THE COMMON DESIGN HABITS...BUT MAYBE ITS TIME FOR AN OSCILLOSCOPE..? Carry on
@westerntruckandtractorrepa13533 ай бұрын
I've seen a lot of guys with scopes who can't fix shit
@JoeBachmann-ry7wm3 ай бұрын
Well done, a very good teaching video. It sure helps me to fix basic electrical stuff on our farm.
@matkremzar54743 ай бұрын
20 ft pounds is a half a ughh. Lol good job Warren. Showing the reality of a field tech!!
@user-ko2ki3fb5d3 ай бұрын
Hello Warren, You are enjoy doing this type work . I have herd you say it many times.
@brettski6633 ай бұрын
Well done for persevering with this it would of really frustrated me
@YOU-vj4fl3 ай бұрын
Warren!super vid today,it was fun right there with ya, see ya on the next one.
@AnthonySmith-hr2kp3 ай бұрын
Nice job Warren. Lookin forward to the next one
@k4x4map462 ай бұрын
whew that marathon t-shootin! great stuff!
@johnalexander43563 ай бұрын
Ptf manuals suck to use in the field but it sure is easier than trying to carry around a stack of manuals. But I admit that I often print out parts that I'm actually using. I'm to old to go back and forth all day and I can't trust that I'll remember the complex instructions.
@ACatKrom3 ай бұрын
was going to say the the same thing about printing out the pages you need, and take them to the machine. I do it for tq charts and electrical troubleshooting all the time
@davidhudson54523 ай бұрын
Take a known good part and put it on, glad you have friends
@Stevehofer63 ай бұрын
Yo sir good job .. i love reading through the comments and reading your replies to to KZbin certified mechanics lol. Happy sunday😊
@Prariedog3 ай бұрын
Great video warren ,thx for sharing
@jameslockhart31023 ай бұрын
Warren you make it look easy ...
@henrymichaelwilson81073 ай бұрын
Hello Warren. We have had troubles with speed sensor. We don't do the diagnosis some polish geazer does it for us. It's a good tractor though.
@noelkerlin4273 ай бұрын
thanks for your video
@butchhill20013 ай бұрын
warn, all i can say ,you Sir make my day with your vids
@lennyfitzgerald47143 ай бұрын
Great job sir thanks you for taking us along
@eddief33263 ай бұрын
i willn bet if a tractor co bring a new tractor on the market that has no eletrones just plane old school with the horse power ,cab,heat and air it would sell.
@francomtz71153 ай бұрын
I love you're chanel and admire you're knowledge, all we need is a Tesla tractor to make it harder..
@philglover29733 ай бұрын
Awesome video thanks Warren very much appreciated top job 🚜🛠️🚜🛠️🚜🇬🇧🇺🇲 regards from England
@jakkranch33963 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing the troubleshooting
@user-xi9nn8xx9k3 ай бұрын
I am going to say something about tightening bolts and torque wrenches. To all the keyboard experts out there that have never done any wrenching but jump at any chance to criticize people...JUST TIGHTEN THE DAMN THING UP!!! If you don't know what tight is and what loose is you don't have enough experience. If I am tightening up rod bolts or main bolts and have a torque wrench handy, I will use it. For some stupid plug or bolt or whatever, Just Tighten It Up!!
@AWDJRforYouTube3 ай бұрын
late to the show here Warren but wouldn't miss your videos🚜
@jefflarson24903 ай бұрын
Just had to replace the alternator on my mx200 my son was running it on the plows shut it off to eat lunch started it back up and it wouldn't move because the transmission wasn't reading the same rpm as engine
@nathankisner83323 ай бұрын
I have one of those ford timing tools. I can send you a pic of what it looks like. It doesnt show any numbers. It just has a light that lights up when on TDC
@ethantracy3373 ай бұрын
It's always an adventure!
@eddiereichel93543 ай бұрын
💯 ya need to get an oscilloscope. Your sharp enough to pick it up fast. Ohm test is just one way to test something. That is a 2 wire ac sensor. They can loose their amplitude of the output. With a scope you can get a waveform and especially if you have another machine to pull known good waveform from it's easy to test without going through that flow chart. Those flow charts suck and I mean for automobiles hardly ever are they right
@FixItStupid3 ай бұрын
Yes Needs Oscilloscope See What A Blind Man Can SEE For 35 Years I Used To Find Problems SO Fast !
@westerntruckandtractorrepa13533 ай бұрын
Here we go, you need this and you need that!!
@FixItStupid3 ай бұрын
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 Just Be Stupid Ok
@FixItStupid3 ай бұрын
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 Ok Just Be Stupid
@FixItStupid3 ай бұрын
He Don't Want Any Help
@dawsanmcdaniel73993 ай бұрын
Warren check out the ase wave terminal pin kit. Makes doing wiring way better
@DieselProductions952 ай бұрын
Wonder what would have happened if the dealer had of looked at that. Parts cannon incoming !!
@The_Farm_Tech_3 ай бұрын
Great video Warren
@keithwallington49662 ай бұрын
Hi warren have made a boobo ant turnd off coments did you pick your light up when you left the newholland tractor you were spot on when spke about it beeing thight in the tractor 👍✌
@incubatork3 ай бұрын
Anyone else notice the front left tyre is on backwards? Nice deduction Mr Warren "Sherlock"
@danielehnert42593 ай бұрын
Rockshaft housing is removable to service pto we had the shift collar dowl pins break and had to pull apart on our mx135
@NotmeGK1233 ай бұрын
Been years ago kinda same problem and best i remember was damn relay Don’t remember for sure TBI injury tend to forget some stuff lol
@westerntruckandtractorrepa13533 ай бұрын
If you watch the video to the end you will see what the problem is.
@NotmeGK1233 ай бұрын
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 I did dang computer stuff it’s like they all got together and said electrical stuff can’t be returned so let’s make it all electric stuff
@dennisbrantley69253 ай бұрын
I willing to bet that old alternator might have fried that controller, seeing as though it takes RPM readings from it to calibrate itself. Zap and puff the magic smoke.
@stephenheyes43243 ай бұрын
Thanks for another interesting diagnostic video Warren
@rodneymiddleton96243 ай бұрын
Makes you wonder if something with the alternator caused this module and the park solenoid to go bad. Thanks Warren!
@rovidius20063 ай бұрын
Yes ! poor alternators cause spikes in nearby wires by their own workings ,damaging COMPONENTS beyond his scope of workings . I run alternator main runs different route for that reason ,computers fail if voltage is not properly regulated .
@manuelfuentes543829 күн бұрын
Thank you for the lesson, I really appreciate it. Where do you get the repair manuals or the program you use? From what I see, it is very complete. I would appreciate it since I also work on tractors and I need more information about manuals and programs.👍🏼
@jasonholley300922 күн бұрын
An o2 sensor socket should fit that sensor. I believe they are 1 inch
@robertquast96843 ай бұрын
That was quite the diagnosis to test all that stuff. It nice to find the problem but I am sure the replacement controller isn’t cheap
@westerntruckandtractorrepa13533 ай бұрын
Have to send this one off to get repaired, been discontinued.
@robertquast96843 ай бұрын
Nice. We are working on our new holland tg 230 that has a faulty arm rest controller which has been discontinued as well. Apparently there is a Canadian company that builds them but of course cnh wants to work with them so the prices doubled according to the dealer
@danielehnert42593 ай бұрын
Had loose terminal on ref wire at alternator on our Mx 135 and it would shut off randomly tightened up terminal fitment haven’t had issue since believe I was getting that 67 code
@donald10563 ай бұрын
You could use electric spray cleaner if you have any for the oil that's on them or brake cleaner - suggestion only
@JOHNPHUFNAGEL2 ай бұрын
MFG flow charts can be a pain in the ass to follow, you should get yourself an oscilloscope. They are a life saver when checking sensors and intermittent power issues.
@douglasmayherjr.57333 ай бұрын
Another Great Video, Warren. I have not found a join button to add a membership. How do I join? Thanks for the Videos.
@SteveAdlard2 ай бұрын
I can’t join either and after lots of research found google doesn’t support iOS operating system which is my iPad so I’m SOL the button they talk about doesn’t exist for me,frustrating
@maryfaw56553 ай бұрын
Great videoi
@stevefowler2443 ай бұрын
i noticed that the left front tire is mounted backwards. Looks like new rubber all the way around on that machine.
@genechronister70853 ай бұрын
Another great vid
@tractorfixrable3 ай бұрын
I also hate PDF’s on my laptop. What I’ve found is to use a cheap tablet and have all the manuals on it. That way you can bookmark and it’s more portable and the battery lasts for hours.
@mikemoss99683 ай бұрын
I have to wear my old man glasses all the time
@trevormansfield64953 ай бұрын
How’s the membership so far Warren. Is it working out do you think. ?
@westerntruckandtractorrepa13533 ай бұрын
Yes, so far I like it. It's a work in progress.
@trevormansfield64953 ай бұрын
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 Yep. Hopefully build the numbers up after a period. I’m well pleased with it!!
@CrimeVid3 ай бұрын
@@trevormansfield6495Still no one has told me how to go about joining !
@vincenthalas70553 ай бұрын
@@CrimeVidIt's on the "Join" button. Lol
@michaelflaherty77763 ай бұрын
Warren, internet has the same problems as far back to early 2000 on the MX120, same issues. Even on newer 120s. Can you check those issues and shorten your time.
@uhohspagettioh975313 ай бұрын
Not 100% sure but 5xxx maxxum series had to split to rebuild pto, mx series can do clutches out the back..
@livingthedreamag3 ай бұрын
Can you tell me what you are using for tractor diagnostic? Where did you get it? I have mostly John Deere equipment
@Agirhydro233 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video
@chuckh.22273 ай бұрын
I find it's easier to print out the PDF to old fashion paper and use it like an old school paper service manual
@neilpeterson67483 ай бұрын
You might try a O2 socket in a 1"
@tommccully19913 ай бұрын
Yes for Sure Warren Indeed I'll be 64 in September. So how Old are you now?
@richb11283 ай бұрын
How do you become a member of the channel and what is the cost?
@westerntruckandtractorrepa13533 ай бұрын
If you have an iPhone you won't see the join button on my home page, you'll have to get a desktop or laptop to join. It's 2.99 a month.
@859323 ай бұрын
THank you....
@KStewart-th4sk2 ай бұрын
So, a bad PTO module makes the tractor unable to move. Can it be unplugged so at least the farmer could use the tractor on non-PTO operated equipment? If not, that's absolute bullshit. These things have gotten overly complicated. At one time tractors had all gear driven PTO's and probably just a selector for 540 and 1000 RPM. Our old tractors back on the farm only had single speed PTO's. More than half a century ago!
@tommccully19913 ай бұрын
I noticed an empty Post with a nut on it on the Alternator??
@NotmeGK1233 ай бұрын
Case is new holland. All parts are CNH box. Means case new holland
@westerntruckandtractorrepa13533 ай бұрын
Yes, and? I know what the acronym stands for.
@NotmeGK1233 ай бұрын
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 ok just letting you know in case didn’t lol figured you did but had to say it just in case anyway have good day