Wet sanding primer for paint Jakes Shop

[@highspeednoblesgarage3152]

Jake, looks good brother. Definitely a good tutorial. Can't wait to see the final product.

[@JakesShop]

Thanks! The car is all painted now. i think it turned out great. I expect to have that video edited and posted next week with another update of the actual painting process.

[@freddyflint8309]

Great work and perfect explanation. In the very past we did a lot of wet sanding and it was more common than dry sanding. Now it has changed to the opposit. I still like wet sanding exactly for the same reasons you have explained. Greetings from Germany

[@rays9033]

Man, this guy really gives the viewers great content and super detailed instruction. A must-watch series for everyone!

[@jamesward5721]

Started wet sanding instead of dry & IMO it's a game changer. Finish is incomparable & cost wise, you're using fractions of the amount of paper compared to dry sanding. You can get a finish that really pings - makes a huge difference to the final product.

[@CALB2009]

@JakesShop~~ Back in the day, my Dad and I restored a 1970 Ford Torino Cobra with a 429 Super Cobra Jet Engine, as my first car. Believe it or not, I still own it! We started working on it when I was 14 years old and finished it just after I got my driver's license when I turned 16 yrs old. We WET SANDED 100% of the car by hand up, NO BLOCKS USED. My Dad is a perfectionist and he truly wanted me to learn how to "sand by feel". When he first started teaching me, he actually had me keep my eyes closed, so I would focus on the "feel" of the car's body shape as I sanded and become intuitive about keeping the surface of the paper & car wet at all times. Mind you, it was an excellent education, but it did spark some "debate" between the two of us while we worked!! LOL!! The bulk of the Wet Sanding occurred over the winter months in Iowa in our 2 car garage with a kerosene furnace. It would be -20 to -30 degrees out, and my Dad and I were out in that garage for hours every night wet sanding!! BURRRR!!! One huge benefit of Wet Sanding is not having to deal with the massive amount of dust you create with dry sanding. We started at #220 grit, then #320, then #400 and finally #600 Grit...all of this was done on the final primer coat. We used a "guide coat" applied with a sponge, similar to the one you used, to spot imperfections. Yes, it was a ton of work, and wet sanding in the winter was no easy task, but it was SO WORTH IT!! My uncle owned a body shop in Northern Iowa and came to our house to paint the car when it was ready. OMG......It turned out 100% flawless, an absolute mirror level finish on the body of the car and of course, the "Shaker Hood" was done to specifications in a Matte Black Finish. I know the technology of car paints have advanced significantly over the years, but I still believe that WET SANDING is far superior in terms of final finish than any other method, hands down! It's a MUST DO, especially on Classic Cars and Muscle Cars! My Dad always told me: "If you are going to do something, DO IT RIGHT, or don't do it at all". Side note: After 8 weeks of driving the Cobra, I managed to wear down the back tires from drag racing everyone who challenged me! That dual positraction was a BLAST!! HAHAHAHA! My Dad was not too happy with me, but he was a Drag Boat Racer and had been taking me to drag races and stock car races every weekend in the summers, since I was 6 months old. I told him "What did you expect Dad? Racing's in my blood!" LOL!! ;-). Great video Jake! ~~Christy~~

[@geeper2142]

That is well prepared for paint , as it should be ....Well done !

[@mrrevival6565]

That was very well explained! Thank you Jake! I’ve done 220 on both of my quarter panels dry sanding. Moved up to 320 dry. I will try wetsand 400 after some glaze

[@Akdeniz07350]

Kuru 320 sonrasında ıslak 400 hata olur.

[@honeybear8485]

Hey nice job I like the idea with a water bottle and keeping it clean and rinsing while you're standing... One of the best videos I've seen showing wet sanding techniques nice job 👌 appreciate... Going PSU got to have music while you work I put my headphones on..

[@ElrodsGarage]

You're really flying through this project. It's looking gooooood!

[@JakesShop]

Elrodeano Vanfan thanks! Editing the paint video and should be up next week.

[@comfort_in_discomfort]

New sub here. I'm going down the same path getting ready to paint my wagoneer at home. Looks great!

[@MrWsGTORebuild]

Great video. Very good detail and advice.

[@dadstoygarage1878]

Awesome! Just about to start wet sanding my primer as well. Just doing a final 320 block sand!

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Looks great Jake, I definitely prefer the wet sanding myself. Keep up the good work!

[@JakesShop]

Double R Restorations thanks double r! It turned out great. Just posted the paint video as well

[@mahinork]

Is it true that you can only dry sand polyester primmer, but its ok to wetsand 2k primer. Are you worried about the primer absorbing moisture even though you have dried the panels by hand? Just curious as if it has any long term detrimental effects to the steel below? Cheers, great vid

[@JakesShop]

Thanks! I do not know about polyester primer. I know it’s completely fine for 2k and I’d recommend it.

[@adrianoalvesmachado3448]

I would like to work with automotive painting more in Brazil and hard to get ... congratulations on the video

[@chrismansker8870]

good video jake I also prefer wet sanding and as for the mess it washes off easily with no huge cloud of dust win win to me. last time I wet sanded I used a paint stick with paper raped around it to get in tight areas works good hard block in large flat areas. really shows the imperfections in the panels I hope to get back on my car soon

[@JakesShop]

Chris Mansker Thanks chris I have heard about the paint stick method as well and it works great for hard to reach areas. Should have probably mentioned that in the video as another tool to use :)

[@christiescraftroom6802]

Love what you're doing here Jake!!! Love you honey!

[@rongamble9884]

Thats why i don't wet sand anymore because of the mess

[@ciogon]

You can also use colored chalk to highlight the scratches or holes..😊

[@schawn4925]

Great video

[@phillipcondrey]

Very good explanation man.

[@JakesShop]

Thanks

[@Jay-vr8it]

Beautiful

[@northzealand]

The total number of sanding to get the whole car done is insane ! Imagine from the very first time you sand down the old paint, rust etc, to the very last one... there are so many steps.. someone tell me it´s less than 15 (bare in mind you also need do the filler and redos)

[@filibertobarrera3839]

After I spray my 3 to Four coats of primer surfacer,I use left over base coat mix 1 part paint to 5 parts thinner and fog coat the whole car,works well for wet sanding.5 to 1 mixture for the base keeps ur sandpaper from clogging up.

[@JakesShop]

Cool never heard of that before.

[@thehammermanduke]

Good stuff!!!

[@andrewhudson3723]

This is great, thanks!

[@djangoletsgetitgarvey2857]

Thank you for this video🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@topgunpressurecleaning8930]

What do you do of you burn through the primer?

[@JakesShop]

If it’s light enough the sealer I used will take care of it. It’s a direct to metal product.

[@kevinwells768]

Nice video. I copied your basic spray booth design, but used the green filters filled with nylon/grp green sticky matting. The fan sucked loads of little fibres/hairs out that messed up the paint job. Wondering what filters you used? Thanks.

[@JakesShop]

Merve 8. Like 12 of them about 24x24

[@timbartley5678]

When wet sanden primer what the best grit to use I seen people use 220 other 320 and 600 when start wet sand

[@BrokeVetGarage]

small stream from the garden hose so you don’t keep dunking into dirty water. I love wet sanding

[@JamezFamily]

After you apply primer is it necessary to wet sand for a smoother surface

[@JakesShop]

Wet sanding is optional. But you do have to sand.

[@hobbyautobodyfun9315]

Wet sanding is the best

[@curtisbrawner8871]

What is the black stuff you smear on to the panel that shows high and low spots?

[@JakesShop]

Guide coat

[@slickrickjones]

Nice bro. Question: I’m wet sanding a Nova hood. Seems like every time I san, spray it off and it’s dry, I see line scratches. Wet sanding with 320

[@JakesShop]

Derrick Gates. If you look close enough you’ll still see sand scratches even after using a guild coat with 400. Read your sealer and see that it recommends. Mine was 400. Wet sanding leaves deeper scratches then dry sanding but most guys like to go to at least 400 before spraying sealer and then paint. I’d wet sand with at least 400. Some guys say dry sanding to 320 is safe if your using a sealer but I wasn’t willing to risk it. :). Hope that helps.

[@slickrickjones]

Jakes Shop cool man thanks for the advice. I guess it would help to read the directions on the primer

[@fredniess2807]

Great video Jake!! Man, you seem to have been learning a lot lately........ ;) And where did you find that sweet soft block? Cant wait to see the video for the painted car. And then the video for the CUT AND BUFF!!!!

[@JakesShop]

Fred Niess thanks bro! You’ll have to be featured in the cut and buff video. Some dork I know lent the block to me. I gotta give it back soon so he can get that 72 Chevy truck done that he is working on.

[@OCT566]

Jake, you had mentioned breaking through the primer, do you depend on the sealer for adhesion over bear metal.

[@JakesShop]

Terry Hudspeth most of the higher end paints stick fine to bare metal. But you need to verify and read on them. I sealed my car just before paint. Which is what most higher end paint jobs do. It makes sure to fill in 400grit sand scratches and gives an excellent substrate for adhesion of paint and helps even out the color. Dark sealer for dark paint and light sealer for lighter paint. Hope that helps.

[@OCT566]

Thanks for the reply. I will be laying down house of color black on a large car from the 40s and I do have a couple of areas where I’ve sanded through on a ridge or three. I was hopeful sealer would cover those areas

[@JakesShop]

Terry Hudspeth sealer will cover the bare metal no problem. Most all sealers are designed to stick/etch to bare metal but read on the product to verify. I know the transtar stuff I used does.

[@salinaslim23]

When sanding to prep car for the final paint is it normal to sand down to metal in certain areas???

[@JakesShop]

It does happen. If you barely break through and it’s not a high spot your ok. But make sure your sealer or base is direct to metal. Good rule of thumb anyway

[@tw1st3d-0ne9]

Paint that car brother stop second guessing yourself you've done great work on it most the stuff your finding now will cover lol im just ready to see it done

[@Trophy12321]

Great video... What were the grid stages of dry sand before wet sand ,was it 80,120,220, and 340?

[@JakesShop]

120, 320, 500 is what I did on wet sand

[@DJ-du1mf]

Will 600 grite wet do the job also?

[@JakesShop]

Never tried 600. I’m sure it would work. But load up faster possibly….

[@DJ-du1mf]

@@JakesShop ok thanks

[@Allen-ln6gz]

Does this apply to clear coat?

[@JakesShop]

Some of it does yes. But I use much higher gritt paper and different blocks

[@Allen-ln6gz]

Thank you I'm using 3000 grit

[@supernube5051]

Jakes Shop Hello mate... nice video. I've Just finished priming my van door...rubbed it down with 120 grit dry paper....its all I had... and it's also my first bodywork job...so please dont shout at me lol... having watched your video I've decided to wet sand it ...after all the work that went into this door it deserves to be finished properly. I was looking at 1200 grit wet and dry thinking it had to be as high grit as possible ...but you used 400 grit ... Is 400 a high enough grit then ? Thank you

[@JakesShop]

Supernube you don’t want it to be too high. Too fine of sand paper has a chance to cause the paint to not be able to stick. I used a sealer which will hide micro scratches. Dry sand 400 is good for most sealers. The goal is to go fine enough that sanding scratches won’t show through your paint. Keep in mind. Dry sanding is like 500+ wet sanding. Wet sanding leaves deeper scratches because it’s so clean and keeps the paper so sharp. But wet sanding is nice because your paper last so much longer.

[@Akdeniz07350]

400 veya 500 ile başladıktan sonra Hangi kum kullanılmalı, hangi kum ile bitmelidir? Metalik baz kat boya için

[@goldencarcare]

Wich wet sand paper u use?and it is second sanding work? Thanks

[@JakesShop]

I used 3m wet or dry 500 grit part number was 32037. Wet sanding worked great for me for the final prep before sealer and paint.

[@goldencarcare]

@@JakesShop thanks bro💪🍻

[@goldencarcare]

What i primer it is 4:1%thiner Is direcli wet sanding ore before was dry sanding

[@JakesShop]

nasir mustafa it’s a 2k primer. Basically UPol brand primer. It’s a 4 to 1 activated primer and I only thinned it by about 5% so it laid down more even. Once it’s completely cured and dry. I like to wait a day or so before sanding it.

[@goldencarcare]

@@JakesShop thnx bro

[@morganbrantley9058]

Are you sanding epoxy in this video or high build polyester? , sorry i cant tell. Also whats your final grade of sand paper? Im painting my first car to

[@JakesShop]

I'm sanding a UPOL 2k primer. I used it on bare metal by thinning it after proper bare metal prep methods. Then used it as a high build primer by not thinning it. Which it says you can do and it works well for me. Final sand was a wet sand with 500. Followed that up with a Transtar sealer just before base coat.

[@morganbrantley9058]

@@JakesShop great. Thanks for info.

[@corymcewen5943]

NOOOO DRY SANDING makes more of a mess, paint dust everywhere and up the wazoo. It's easy to pressure wash a cement floor but paint dust sticks everywhere. Great vid though. I've done around 13 cars and the first half dozen I DIDN'T GUIDECOAT and it showed. Like Jake say, if you keep sanding lightly until the guide coat is gone, then it is as flat as glass

[@matthewthomas5997]

I’ve been pressing way too hard and sanding way too much lol

[@AndSheAndI]

The radio would drown the smacking sound...

[@darrenheading7046]

600wet is ideal

[@kevin8435]

Jake, where do you get your 2k primer?

[@JakesShop]

I went to a local auto paint supply place in my town. But have seen it online as well.

[@warrenlewis3977]

Too much unesesary babble Jake.