1. Is ME en/of CVS een ziekte? - Prof. Dr. K. de Meirleir

[@Mies10]

Zeer goede uitleg van dr. de Meirleir over de huidige situatie - rustig, volledig en helder. Ik kijk uit naar de dag dat 'vermoeidheid' niet meer 'in 1 go' genoemd wordt met ME. Inspanningsintolerantie is het belangrijkste symptoom van ME, zoals dr. de Meirleir ook al zegt! Nu de wereld nog verder informeren! Meer awareness, weg met de vooroordelen en misdiagnoses! Mijn vraag: wat vind u van de trials met anti-kanker medicijn rituximab? De goede of verkeerde weg?

[@cjbartoz]

1997, Perth Academy of Natural Therapies, Australia (chronic fatigue syndrome) A study by Shellie Gaskin, as a partial fulfillment for a Diploma of Naturopathy, was conducted on 15 people diagnosed with CFS. There were following improvements: fatigue 87%, night sweats 75%, depression 70%, allergies 66%, anxiety 66%, muscular aches 60%, difficulty sleeping 54%, and headaches 50%. After 10-12 weeks all those who continued their Buteyko breathing exercise regimes reported a 100% reduction in fatigue.

[@EMGoudsmit]

A few mistakes. Ramsay was not the first person to name or define ME, that was the late Sire Donald Acheson (Lancet 1956). Fatigue is not the core symptom of ME. It is the easy muscle fatiguability, i.e. slightly more specific. Think of muscle weakness. CFS places an emphasis on general fatigue, ergo, there is a difference between ME and CFS. Current criteria for CFS select a number of groups.

[@dirkkatz172]

Straling van een microgolf-oven (magnetron) is voortdurend dag en nacht, ook als de oven niet in gebruik is. De straling spant de spieren op en veroorzaakt zo chronische vermoeidheid.

[@teddybearroosevelt1847]

Maak dat de kat(z) wijs, Dirk. Je doet er waarschijnlijk beter aan je aluminiumhoedje op te doen en je smartphone en WiFi-router op Marktplaats te verkopen.

[@luciana200093]

Is er al bekend in waarom ME patiënten slecht magnesium opnemen en is de ziekte erfelijk? Is er ook al iets bekend van het innemen van bepaalde medicatie zoals de pil b.v. of andere waardoor meer vrouwen als mannen deze ziekte hebben?

[@dirkkatz172]

Is eigenlijk een inwendige wurging.Spieren spannen op, ook rond de darmen, daardoor slechte opname van vitamines en andere voedingsstoffen,

[@teddybearroosevelt1847]

Goede vraag. Wellicht dat de darmflora hier een rol in spelen? Of wellicht is een veel hogere dosis vereist dan normaal en wordt wat er binnenkomst snel opverbruikt. Pure suggesties vanuit mijn kant, maar wellicht kan iemand hier op basis van wat uit studies bekend is meer hierover zeggen

[@Wetenschap-MEcvsVer]

Bedankt voor de positieve reacties en het stellen van jullie vragen. We verzamelen alle vragen naar aanleiding van de eerste video’s en zullen deze de volgende keer dat wij bij Prof. De Meirleir op bezoek zijn aan hem voorleggen. We gaan ons best doen om uw vraag aan bod te laten komen. Daarnaast staat op 9 november een chatsessie geplanned met prof. De Meirleir. U kunt hier meer informatie over vinden op website van de ME/cvs vereniging en op mecvs.net

[@dirkkatz172]

De oorzaak bij mij was de microgolfoven. Klinkt wellicht ongelooflijk: op internet staat dat het gebruik ongevaarlijk is of dat het gevaar kanker of verminderen van vitamines is. De eerste gevolgen waren: pijn in de hals, vermoeidheid, keelpijn, depressie,..... Na enkele weken zonder microgol-oven waren deze symptomen weg. Opgelet de oven moet echt uit huis. Als de stekker insteekt worden steeds golven uitgezonden. Er steekt ook een hoogspanningscondensator in die de spanning houdt na uittrekken stekker. De oven moet dus het huis uit. Om te proberen misschien in het tuinhok. Gevolgen zijn groter naarmate de microgolf oven dichter bij u staat: als de oven bv vlak naast uw eettafel staat. Als u dit onder de aandacht brengt bij uw leden kunnen diegenen die het wensen het proberen en u laten weten wat hun ervaringen zijn. Iedereen kan nu meewerken aan het onderzoek! veel gaat men niet vinden van CVS. Organen worden niet beschadigd. Het lijkt eerder een inwendige wurging. Ik weet niet of men dat kan vinden. De spieren spannen onder invloed van microgolven(magnetron),Vandaar de pijn en de darmen worden teveel gespannen waardoor vertering slecht wordt en te weinig vitamines opgenomen worden. In de keel heeft men pijn door de opspanning van de spieren aldaar. Voor mij is veel duidelijk maar tja ik ben geen wetenschapper of geen arts.

[@anraes100]

Vraag: Waarom worden idd ziektes zoals sclerodermie en lupus door andere artsen vaak afgedaan als ME/CVS terwijl de kenmerken toch duidelijk zichtbaar zijn in het bloedbeeld ?

[@marianneeichhorn-w4o]

Ik heb er jaren last van gehad..na 13 jaar kwam eruit dat het de schildklier was

[@evr4549]

Was jouw schildklier nooit getest geweest op die 13 jaar?

[@cjbartoz]

Reports from two conferences in Moscow and Krasnojarsk in 1988 (large variety of health problems) There were about 30 published reports (Buteyko method, 1992) of about 40 Russian medical doctors and health professionals, who met during two conferences in Moscow and Krasnojarsk in 1988 in order to share their practical experience of application of the Buteyko method in over 20 medical hospitals and clinics in Russia. The total reported number of treated people, according to the published conference proceedings (Buteyko, 1991), was over 3,000. Although most of them had respiratory (asthma, bronchitis, rhinitis, etc.) and cardiovascular (hypertension, angina pectoris, ischemia, etc.) problems, hundreds were treated or relieved from arthritis, osteoporosis, epilepsy, ulcers, gastritis, kidney stone problems, hepatitis, different infertility conditions, skin diseases (e.g., dermatitis, psoriasis, eczema), etc. Typical reported results were either some or essential improvement for over 90% patients, while remaining patients were not able to normalise their breathing parameters due to absence of desire or motivation and quitting the method during its initial stages. Thus, those patients who achieved large CPs significantly improved their health state. Normalization of breathing always leads to dissapperance of symptoms and no need for medication. Buteyko method. Its application in medical practice, ed. by K.P. Buteyko, 1991, 2nd edition, Titul, Odessa.

[@cjbartoz]

Amazing medical references: 15 clinical studies claim that chronic fatigue means hyperventilation. There are 15 astonishing medical studies that link chronic fatigue with overbreathing. You can see references for these studies further down: Medical References Rosen SD, King JC, Wilkinson JB, Nixon PG, Is chronic fatigue syndrome synonymous with effort syndrome? Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine, 1990 Dec; 83(12): 761-764. Paulley JW, Hyperventilation, Recent Progress in Medicine 1990 Sep; 81(9): 594-600. Bogaerts K, Hubin M, Van Diest I, De Peuter S, Van Houdenhove B, Van Wambeke P, Crombez G, Van den Bergh O., Hyperventilation in patients with chronic fatigue syndrome: the role of coping strategies, Behav Res Ther. 2007 Nov; 45(11): p. 2679-2690. Epub 2007 Jul 20. Vasiliauskas D1, Kavoliūniene A, Jasiukeviciene L, Grizas V, Statkeviciene A, Leimoniene L, Tumyniene V, Kubilius R., [Impact of a long-term complex rehabilitation on chronic fatigue and cardiorespiratory parameters in patients with chronic heart failure], Medicina (Kaunas). 2008;44(12):911-21. Hypocapnia or low end-tidal CO2 in chronic fatigue syndrome Bazelmans E, Bleijenberg G, Vercoulen JH, van der Meer JW, Folgering H., The chronic fatigue syndrome and hyperventilation, J Psychosom Res. 1997 Oct;43(4):371-7 Cook DB, Nagelkirk PR, Poluri A, Mores J, Natelson BH., The influence of aerobic fitness and fibromyalgia on cardiorespiratory and perceptual responses to exercise in patients with chronic fatigue syndrome, Arthritis Rheum. 2006 Oct; 54(10): p. 3351-62. Guilleminault C, Poyares D, Rosa A, Kirisoglu C, Almeida T, Lopes MC, Chronic fatigue, unrefreshing sleep and nocturnal polysomnography, Sleep Med. 2006 Sep;7(6):513-20. Epub 2006 Aug 24 Lee S., Estranged bodies, simulated harmony, and misplaced cultures: neurasthenia in contemporary Chinese society, Psychosom Med. 1998 Jul-Aug; 60(4): p. 448-457. Naschitz JE, Mussafia-Priselac R, Kovalev Y, Zaigraykin N, Slobodin G, Elias N, Rosner I., Patterns of hypocapnia on tilt in patients with fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, nonspecific dizziness, and neurally mediated syncope, Am J Med Sci. 2006 Jun;331(6): p. 295-303. Natelson BH, Intriligator R, Cherniack NS, Chandler HK, Stewart JM., Hypocapnia is a biological marker for orthostatic intolerance in some patients with chronic fatigue syndrome, Dyn Med. 2007 Jan 30;6:2. Nijs J, Adriaens J, Schuermans D, Buyl R, Vincken W., Breathing retraining in patients with chronic fatigue syndrome: a pilot study. Physiother Theory Pract. 2008 Mar-Apr;24(2):83-94. Razumovsky AY, DeBusk K, Calkins H, Snader S, Lucas KE, Vyas P, Hanley DF, Rowe PC., Cerebral and systemic hemodynamics changes during upright tilt in chronic fatigue syndrome, J Neuroimaging. 2003 Jan; 13(1): p. 57-67. Saisch SG, Deale A, Gardner WN, Wessely S., Hyperventilation and chronic fatigue syndrome, Q J Med. 1994 Jan;87(1):63-7. Sisto SA, Tapp W, Drastal S, Bergen M, DeMasi I, Cordero D, Natelson B., Vagal tone is reduced during paced breathing in patients with the chronic fatigue syndrome, Clin Auton Res. 1995 Jun; 5(3): p. 139-143. Togo F, Natelson BH, Cherniack NS, FitzGibbons J, Garcon C, Rapoport DM., Sleep structure and sleepiness in chronic fatigue syndrome with or without coexisting fibromyalgia, Arthritis Res Ther. 2008;10(3):R56. Epub 2008 May 13.

[@hannej9818]

Is it possible to add english subtitles to these videos? I would very much like to understand what Prof. De Meirleir is saying, but I don't understand this language.

[@teddybearroosevelt1847]

There is a feature on KZbin nowadays that automatically translates what is being said to English and adds it as subtitles to the video. It wasn’t there 10 years ago, but maybe that’s good to know for you

[@cjbartoz]

Clinical trial conducted at the Mater Hospital, Brisbane, Australia Buteyko breathing techniques in asthma: a blinded randomised controlled trial. Simon D Bowler, Amanda Green and Charles A Mitchell - The study was carried out from January 1995 to April 1995. - This study uses the gold standard of trials (blinded randomised controlled trial). - The asthma patients were taught Buteyko the proper way, by actual Buteyko instructors. - Quite a large group of asthma patients were taught. Buteyko group: Respiration after 3 months (l/min): 9,6 Bronchodilators after 3 months: 96% less Inhaled steroids after 3 months 49% less Reduction of symptom scores after 3 months: 71% Control group: Respiration after 3 months (l/min): 13,3 Bronchodilators after 3 months: 7% less Inhaled steroids after 3 months: remained the same Reduction of symptom scores after 3 months: 14% Additional results from the trial: 1: Asthma patients have lower CO2 values than the normal population The study showed a big difference between end-tidal CO2 values of asthma patients and people without asthma: the normal group had an average end-tidal CO2 of 43 mmHg whereas the asthma patients had an average end-tidal Co2 of 34 mmHG. That's a big difference in CO2 levels which agrees with Professor Buteyko's claim that asthma is caused by low CO2 values. 2: Asthma patients breathe more than the normal population Minute breathing volume was higher in asthma patients than in the group of normal people (without asthma). This agrees with Professor Buteyko claim that overbreathing (hyperventilation) causes asthma. 3: Asthma patients who practice Buteyko need less medication as they become better at Buteyko The finding that the relative reduction in beta2-agonist medication was related to the proportionate reduction in minute volume with Buteyko is extremely meaningful. This really means that the more progress asthma patients make with Buteyko, the less medication they need. This is such an important finding that the title of the study could well have been: "Asthma patients who practice Buteyko Breathing need less medication as they become better at Buteyko"! 4: Buteyko does what it promises: change breathing habits and reduce disease symptoms The finding that Buteyko lowers the average minute breathing volume from 14 liter/min to 9.6 liters/min proves that Buteyko Breathing really does significantly change breathing habits. The finding that asthma symptoms went down by 71% proves that Buteyko does improve health and reduces chronic disease symptoms. So these two finding combined together in effect prove that Buteyko Breathing does do what it promises. 5: Buteyko reverts hyperventilation The finding that Buteyko lowers the average minute breathing volume from 14 liter/min to 9.6 liters/min is also a highly significant finding for people suffering from hyperventilation. Those suffering from hyperventilation can learn and practice Buteyko Breathing to reverse and improve their hyperventilation symptoms. References: Buteyko breathing techniques in asthma: a blinded randomised controlled trial. (1998) Published: Medical Journal of Australia, 1998 Dec 7-21;169(11-12):575-8. By: Bowler SD, Green A, Mitchell CA. Self-Management of Asthma Through Normalisation of Breathing - The Role of Breathing Therapy by Tess Graham, Physiotherapist, Practitioner of the Buteyko Method. Article Review "Buteyko breathing techniques in asthma: a blinded randomised controlled trial" by drs. Eduard Reuvers, 2017.

[@cjbartoz]

Over 250,000 asthmatics could not be wrong. Acute asthma exacerbation can be stopped with this simple breathing exercise developed by leading Soviet physiologist Dr KP Buteyko and over 200 Soviet and Russian doctors who have been teaching the Buteyko breathing self-oxygenation technique. The home remedy helps even in cases of sports induced asthma, in most cases, to stop asthma attacks without using inhalers or other meds (bronchodilators). How to Stop Asthma Attack in 1-2 Min Without Meds - Home Remedy: With the first symptoms of asthma (wheezing, chest tightness, dyspnea, labored breathing) sit down in any comfortable chair, couch, sofa or divan. If there are no objects to sit on, sit on the ground or floor, on your knees or with crossed legs. Relax all your body muscles. Next, hold your breath for about 3-4 s. You will get air slight hunger or desire to breathe more. After this, instead of taking your usual big or deep inhalation, take a slightly smaller inhalation (only about 10-20% less than your usual inhalation). Then immediately relax all muscles, especially upper chest and all other breathing muscles. Take another (smaller or reduced) inhalation and again completely relax. With each breath, take a small or reduced inhalation and then completely relax. Maintain air hunger. The goal is to preserve this comfortable level of air hunger for 2-3 minutes. The breathing can be frequent during this reduced breathing but this is OK. If you do the exercise correctly, you will notice that your chest tightness, wheezing, dyspnea, and other symptoms will subside or disappear. If you cannot alleviate your acute asthma exacerbation in 5 minutes, use about 1/3 of your standard medication (e.g., inhaler). After taking meds, repeat this natural remedy monitoring the severity of your symptoms. If it is still not possible to stop the acute asthma exacerbation, again take 1/3 of your usual inhaler dose. Do the breathing exercise once more. Russian MDs and other health practitioners found that most patients could eliminate their symptoms in 2-3 minutes without using medication or naturally.

[@cjbartoz]

Quote from the book Normal Breathing: the Key to Vital Health by Dr. Artour Rakhimov, Alternative Health Educator and Author: Q: There are many medical studies indicating that acute hyperventilation produces asthma attacks in asthmatics. However, several studies found that acute hyperventilation with CO2 enriched air also results in asthma attacks. Therefore, as some doctors claimed, low aCO2 could not be considered as a single cause of asthma. Is this opinion correct? A: Before being tested with CO2 enriched air in laboratories, typical asthmatics had many hundreds of times the following course of events. On the background of chronic hyperventilation (all known studies reported the presence of hyperventilation for initial stages of asthma), asthmatics experienced the influence of some other triggering factors (like exercise, overeating, oversleeping, allergies, etc.), which resulted in additional hyperventilation and further bronchoconstriction or in further inflammation of airways with the same results: feelings of air shortage (due to airway obstruction), chest tightness, laboured breathing, etc. all signs of an asthma attack. (Sometimes, this airway obstruction could be due to, for example, excessive mucus production or inflammation. That could result in anxiety and panic causing acute hyperventilation.) In all cases, these asthmatics breathed normal air with about 0.04% CO2 concentration. Thus, before the attacks, the following physiological changes were repeated many hundred times: abnormally hard work of the respiratory muscles, increased air flow through the respiratory tract, increased amplitude of pressure variations in internal organs, etc. All these changes, before the attacks, were sensed many hundred times by the millions of nerve cells of the nerve system. Finally, further lowered aCO2 and some other factors produced additional bronchoconstriction and the attacks. Now, exactly the same asthmatics arrive in the laboratories, where they perform the same acute hyperventilation, which is accompanied by all these described additional features (again sensed by the millions of nervous cells) with one difference, the inspired air is CO2-rich. Such air has never been experienced by these asthmatics before, but the whole nervous system learned that such a situation causes bronchoconstriction. What would be the result now? The result due to the changed stimulus would be defined by how much of the previous stimulus is left. Low carbon dioxide already created many chronic abnormal changes. Finally, some other triggers which cause the attacks can also be at work when the person deliberately hyperventilates, even with a temporary increase in carbon dioxide stores. It was not a sudden drop or increase in carbon dioxide stores that causes or prevents asthma attacks, but those chronic changes which affect every cell of the respiratory tract in asthmatics. Therefore, since less than 1% stimulus is absent (low CO2), while the remaining 99% is left, the reaction would be exactly the same, as for the whole stimulus. But assuming that the human nervous system is incapable of learning from the previous experiences repeated hundreds of times and that all these events sensed and recorded by the nervous system did not produce habituation and conditioning, one can assert that low carbon dioxide is not the cause of asthma. Therefore, even in conditions of artificially increased aCO2, the influence of so many areas of the nervous system should be more powerful, than that of the breathing center. Meanwhile, if such tests with CO2-rich air were repeated many times, the effect of gradual relearning can be observed and acute hyperventilation with CO2-rich air would not cause bronchoconstriction and the attacks. Moreover, physiological studies found the confirmations of this psychological effect based on the physiology of the nerve cells. It is known that, for example, some breathing maneuvers (chapter 2), e.g., Valsalva and Miller maneuvers, or breathing air with the same composition at the end of the breath hold, as in the lungs, extends breath holding time (BHT). Why? All previous life, movements of respiratory muscles resulted in the new oxygenated air coming into the lungs. Normally, the nervous system learned millions of times, that such respiratory movements are signs of new (fresh) air flow. When, all of the sudden, the conditions are different, only the breathing center creates the stimulus to breathe, while the rest of the nervous system is “happy” and does not contribute to the urge to breathe. It is now a clear fact, which has been confirmed by all published studies, that development and first stages of asthma are always accompanied by hyperventilation. The situation with medical respiratory professionals and asthma was accurately reflected by Peter Kolb, “… asthma is a disorder which is investigated by thousands of respiratory specialists with millions of dollars worth of equipment to measure breathing. Yet after more than half a century of work by all these people measuring patients’ breathing, they haven’t picked up that asthmatics are just breathing too much” (Kolb, private communication, 2001).

[@Wetenschap-MEcvsVer]

English subs will follow soon now. Check our channel in a week.

[@cjbartoz]

Getting Started by Peter Kolb While the Buteyko method introduced into the west has been getting excellent results, it does not entirely accord with Professor Buteyko’s recommended practice. During two weeks he spent in New Zealand in December 2000, he demonstrated the Buteyko technique as it should be practiced. Aim Firstly, it needs to be understood that breathing too much is a bad habit that leaves you with a debilitating shortage of carbon dioxide and bicarbonate. It usually results from long term, undischarged stress. Any stress makes you breathe more. If this is sustained over a long time period it becomes a habit. The physiology behind this habituation process is well understood. Buteyko therapy aims at reversing this, by habituating to less breathing. You do this by developing and sustaining a feeling of a slight shortage of air over a long time period. This gradually restores your carbon dioxide and bicarbonate levels back to normal. Maximum Pause While it is possible to stifle an asthma attack with a long and uncomfortable breath hold know as a maximum pause (MP), this procedure does not reverse your asthma and does not retrain the respiratory center to pace your breathing correctly. Professor Buteyko is emphatic that the maximum pause has no therapeutic value in restoring healthy breathing, which is the aim of his therapy. It is also dangerous for people with various disorders such as hypertension, heart disease, epilepsy, kidney disease and diabetes. It can also destabilize your breathing, making it worse. Unfortunately the maximum pause has been introduced into a westernized version of the Buteyko technique, much to the annoyance of the Professor. An understanding of the physiology behind the Bueyko method leaves no doubt that the maximum pause cannot improve your breathing. DIY/Self-help Professor Buteyko is firmly opposed to the DIY/self-help approach. The Buteyko technique relies 100% on patient compliance for effectiveness. Learning it from a script is like learning Yoga or martial arts from a book. Most people will experience changes in their bodies as their CO2 levels rise. These changes vary from one individual to another. Buteyko practitioners help you deal with these changes, keep you motivated and ensure that you do the breathing exercises correctly. Support for your Buteyko practitioner enables him to continue his work of bringing the technique to other sufferers. Nevertheless, very few people around the world have access to a Buteyko practitioner. So here are some basics to help get you started. Medication Do not make any changes to medication. Steroids must be taken as prescribed. Because of carbon dioxide shortage asthmatics often don’t make enough Cortisol (natural steroid) and must have supplements. Steroids are not just anti-inflammatories but they are needed by the body and without the right amount it can be almost impossible to get breathing back to normal. Your doctor will be able to review your need for steroids when you stop having asthma symptoms. Bronchodilators must be taken only when needed. As you progress, discuss with your doctor the possibility of weaning yourself off long acting bronchodilators and replacing them with short acting ones. That will give you more control over using them when needed. You should find that within days you will be able to overcome asthma attacks with reduced breathing and won’t need the bronchodilators. Nevertheless, you must always carry them with you for emergencies. Nose breathing Always breathe through your nose. If your nose is blocked perform the following exercise: After breathing normally (do not make any exaggerated breathing manoeuvre), hold your breath for as long as is comfortable, and then gradually resume very gentle breathing. It may help to pinch your nose, nod your head a few times or do some other form of exercise. In stubborn cases or when the blockage is due to a cold, you may have to try a few more times. To avoid breathing through your mouth in your sleep, you might like to experiment with a little light medical paper tape to keep your mouth closed. Mouth taping at night is not recommended by Professor Buteyko, but most people find it extremely valuable. If you do, protect your lips with suitable cream, use a low tack tape (some are quite aggressive), and make sure you fold a tab or handle at each end for rapid and easy removal. Do not go to sleep with tape on your mouth if this causes any form of anxiety. Comfort Make sure you’re comfortable before starting the exercises. Remove unnecessary clothing since the improved blood carbon dioxide will dilate blood vessels in the skin, thereby warming you up. Posture To get your posture right stand with your back to a wall, heels, shoulders head and bottom touching the wall. Now drop your shoulders. Keep this upper body posture when sitting. Relaxation While maintaining your posture, relax all the muscles in your chest, neck, shoulders, arms, tummy and particularly the diaphragm. It’s a good idea to tense them up a bit first before relaxing them so that you can properly identify them and make sure they are all relaxed. Normal Breathing Take off your shirt and stand in front of a full length mirror. Watch your chest and tummy for breathing movement. Make sure that your chest does not move at all, and only the upper part of the tummy moves, between navel and breast bone. The second thing to check for is that the tummy moves out with each in breath and not the other way around. Many people get this wrong. Your out-breath must be free, relaxed and unforced. Reduced breathing (RB) Your aim is to develop a feeling of slight hunger for air, sustain this over a period and do this frequently. In fact, this should become a habit so that you do it all the time until you have achieved your health goal. Try to feel your breathing and become aware of your breathing pattern. Now try to maintain this pattern while taking in just a little less air on each breath so that you develop a slight hunger for air. Initially try to sustain this for two minutes, then five and then ten. If you follow all the steps correctly, then you should feel really calm, good and even a little sleepy. If you already practice relaxation techniques, yoga etc, you can combine them with reduced breathing. Measuring your breathing Hyperventilators breathe more than normal in order to achieve lower than normal blood carbon dioxide levels. It follows that if you have to breathe more than normal, then you will also not be able to hold your breath as long as you should. Professor Buteyko has cunningly used this principle to measure your blood carbon dioxide by testing how long you can hold your breath. You start the pause somewhere in your normal breathing cycle. This is how you start the pause: Look up with your eyes and at the same time pinch your nose and start a stop watch. Just before it starts to get uncomfortable, stop the stop watch and resume normal breathing. You should be able to resume normal breathing without any effort and without taking deeper or more frequent breaths. Some precautions: - Do not take a deeper breath before the pause. - Do not make any attempt to empty the lungs before the pause. - Do not worry about which phase of the respiratory cycle you happen to be in before starting the pause. A pause is just an interruption of normal breathing. The time in seconds is called a Control Pause (CP). Asthmatics typically have a CP of 5 - 15 seconds. (But not everyone with such a low CP has asthma.) Your aim is to achieve a CP greater than 40 seconds, although for perfect health Professor Buteyko recommends a CP of at least 60 seconds. Doing a Set When at rest, correctly seated, comfortable and relaxed and after breathing normally for at least five minutes you are ready to do a set. A set consists of Pulse - CP - Reduced breathing - 3min normal breathing - Pulse - CP First measure your pulse and then do a CP. Record the results on a table. Then do reduced breathing for ten minutes. Breathe normally for three minutes, then take your pulse again and take another CP. If you’ve done your reduced breathing correctly your pulse should go down and your CP should go up. Sometimes the pulse remains the same. If it goes up you’re not doing it correctly. After three days you should be able to do around 8 to 10 sets a day. You can then start integrating reduced breathing into your daily life. Ideally you should aim at doing reduced breathing all day. That takes care of the exercises. Here are a few helpful hints to help your recovery. - Don’t eat unless you are hungry. Only eat until you have had enough. Eating increases breathing; eating excessively increases breathing excessively. - Don’t dress too warmly. Be careful not to overdress children. If you are worried about them being cold, check their ears, nose, hands and feet. If these are warm, they’re OK. - Make sure you get plenty of vigorous exercise. But don’t exercise to the point where you have to open your mouth to breathe. If any of these recommendations make you dizzy, sick, anxious or give you palpitations, stop immediately. If possible see a Buteyko practitioner.

[@stroinkvaneizenga]

Ja laten vooral blijven praten, praten en praten. Dat helpt. Vooral geen actie.

[@dirkkatz172]

De oorzaak bij mij was de microgolfoven. Klinkt wellicht ongelooflijk: op internet staat dat het gebruik ongevaarlijk is of dat het gevaar kanker of verminderen van vitamines is. De eerste gevolgen waren: pijn in de hals, vermoeidheid, keelpijn, depressie,..... Na enkele weken zonder microgol-oven waren deze symptomen weg. Opgelet de oven moet echt uit huis. Als de stekker insteekt worden steeds golven uitgezonden. Er steekt ook een hoogspanningscondensator in die de spanning houdt na uittrekken stekker. De oven moet dus het huis uit. Om te proberen misschien in het tuinhok. Gevolgen zijn groter naarmate de microgolf oven dichter bij u staat: als de oven bv vlak naast uw eettafel staat. Als u dit onder de aandacht brengt bij uw leden kunnen diegenen die het wensen het proberen en u laten weten wat hun ervaringen zijn. Iedereen kan nu meewerken aan het onderzoek! veel gaat men niet vinden van CVS. Organen worden niet beschadigd. Het lijkt eerder een inwendige wurging. Ik weet niet of men dat kan vinden. De spieren spannen onder invloed van microgolven(magnetron),Vandaar de pijn en de darmen worden teveel gespannen waardoor vertering slecht wordt en te weinig vitamines opgenomen worden. In de keel heeft men pijn door de opspanning van de spieren aldaar. Voor mij is veel duidelijk maar tja ik ben geen wetenschapper of geen arts. actie:

[@teddybearroosevelt1847]

@@dirkkatz172 Hou alsjeblieft op met het wekken van de suggestie dat deze serieuze ziekte het domein van wappies is. Je magnetron heeft niets te maken met deze ziekte.

[@dirkkatz172]

cvs is geen ziekte..het is een soort inwendige wurging met zeer ernstige gevolgen.Spieren zijn gespannen...

[@teddybearroosevelt1847]

CVS is wel een ziekte. Hou op met het verspreiden van desinformatie en ga hulp zoeken bij je persoonlijke problemen.

[@madscfs]

English subs please

[@dirkkatz172]

Dear, now the cause of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is found: radiation of microwave-oven(magnetron). To stop you have to eliminate the oven out of the house.Attention: radiation goes through walls, it can come from your neighbours. The plug out of electricity net because the oven has also radiation when it is not in use.And out of the house because the oven has a high voltage capacitor. The distance between an oven and a person is very important.After a 3 months without microwaves health becomes better. The victims are more sensible and also the distance between victim and oven is important.After long time obesity is possible. (Also possible: nightmares, change of character)Most people with a microwave arent chronically ill because some people are more sensitive for microwaves, also the distance person/microwave is very important. The oven in another place is more safe. The radiation become less when the oven gets older.Some ovens give less radiation then others. In Russia the less radiation is allowed by law. I had much very positive reactions, some people recovered entirely. Sometimes not because it was being tired through other causes or diseases,not the real cfs.Take everyday a vitamin D supplement because almost everyone have to little.(attention: it cures only CFS,not other diseases with fatigue)

[@dirkkatz172]

edereen kan genezen van CVS als ze hun microgolfoven buiten gooien, tenminste als het echte CVS is. Dus niet alleen vermoeidheid, ook: slechte vertering,slecht slapen met nachtmerries, depressie,zere keel, spierpijnen,...na 3 maanden weg

[@teddybearroosevelt1847]

Hou alsjeblieft op mensen het idee te geven dat deze serieuze ziekte het domein is van wappies. Jou kunnen we hier helemaal niet gebruiken.