New York Mets Are Moving On From Pete Alonso - Rico Brogna Episode 412

[@Jeremy-ed7fy]

Pete (the co-host) saying he wants Cohen to step in and override Stearns and give Alonso whatever he wants is absurd. I mean what are we doing here? Do we want to be the Jets?

[@jayjayfrmstatefarm9363]

They only want a good front office until the good front office start doing good front office things they don’t agree with

[@stephencurry5800]

Hes really exposing himself as someone who knows very little about how good teams are run

[@LuisLopez-ne1qi]

He got an offer for the same thing Freeman got and turned it down. Freeman is a former MVP and a word champion, Pete shoud have taken that money.

[@Aqwtiny]

I appreciate Evan highlighting that Stearns is one of the most coveted minds in baseball and that it’s stupid for fans to want Cohen to micromanage every decision for him.

[@biggarrafrauns]

You guys seem to forget all those wild struck out wild swings with players on base all regular season. Agree with Sterns.

[@johnsmith-lm4uz]

Sinker low and away

[@Dan-tt8sn]

🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@jltweb]

and all the chased pitches!!!! PA came alive in the playoffs but before that he was snoozing

[@JAFMAudio]

I believe the Mets are making the right decision. Absolutely no competition to sign him so no need to bid against yourself.

[@Alvin-wu4sn]

Good ridden no overpay he on the decline I agree with Stearns.

[@Dan-tt8sn]

🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@servingjesussinnersavedbyg8456]

imagine if he pulls a Jason Bay, Mo Vaughn to play elsewhere? Reminds me of that great Jed Lowrie signing, way to go BWW

[@JohnQ1127]

He’s a 2-3 war player at this point in his career. He’s a 30 year old 1b-DH and he’s basically just a one dimensional player (power). He’s slow, isn’t a good base runner and he’s not a good defender. He strikes out too much and doesn’t walk enough to compensate for the lack of contact. He’s .250/.340/.515 for his career with those numbers trending down. He’s probably worth something around $50-80 million for three years.

[@Dan-tt8sn]

Well you just proved the Mets are wrong bc supposedly the truth has come out and the real offer was 3/68. Far cry from 80. 🤡

[@kgarba9253]

It’s not the 40s,50s or 90s,2000s. Those are solid numbers

[@JohnQ1127]

@@kgarba9253 Yeah, those are solid numbers but it’s mostly power and they’re replaceable. His best season was his rookie season and his numbers are trending down. He hit .229/.324/.480 in 2023-24. He’s not an elite 1b and he’s 30. He’s in the Christian Walker, Yandy Diaz, Nathaniel Lowe category. He’s a $20 million a year, 3-4 year contract type of player now. Alonso overplayed his hand in 2023 by not taking that $150 million extension.

[@kgarba9253]

@@JohnQ1127 totally agree. All I’m saying is the Mets are worse without Alonso and moving Vientos to play first and having 3b as a baty, maraucio (who isn’t even healthy) and Acuna? Platoon is a bad idea

[@JohnQ1127]

@@kgarba9253 , It’s much easier to replace a 30 year old 2-3 war first baseman than to replace a 2-3 war player at any other position. The point being is that you don’t want to overpay or get stuck in a long term contract for slow, defensively challenged, limited offensive first baseman. Christian Walker just received a three year $60 million contract which is realistically what Alonso is worth. Vientos isn’t a good defensive 3b so you can move him to 1b. You can make up Vientos offensive numbers by putting a better fielder at 3b or a higher batting average at 3b. Alonso declined the $150 million extension because he thought he was worth more than that. I guess he thought he was a $30 million a year player worth a 6-7 year contract at age 30. Then he hit .229/.324/.480 numbers in 2023-24. He bet on himself and lost. Now he has to deal with the results.

[@tonysavarese7234]

I wonder, Mr. Roberts, if the Met's get Vlad, will you eat your words and realize that the Met's were not interested in Alonso after the season was over.

[@maxvaluemax]

11:56 Vladimir Guerrero "a gold glove first baseman" whose advanced defensive metrics are dead last in MLB in most categories.

[@stanfromwestport2024]

Who cares about his 1b D...?? Vladdy Jr is capable of a Triple Crown bat in any given year...Hardly any MLB players are in his talent category

[@drewp1076]

Steve Cohen 1st appeal to Mets fans, was his appreciation of Mets history. Alonso is a huge piece of said history. How can they let him leave?

[@Amishtroll]

Mets offered him 7 years. He refused. Mets offered 3 years. He refused. Mets offered adjusted terms. He takes it to shop w other teams. Who’s the villain here?

[@Pcbdude82]

​The 7 year deal was like 21 million a year. Pete realistically gets one shot at free agency and a big deal. Frankly it seems to me the mets tried to low ball him the entire time. Whike wasting 800 million on a garbage outfielder. And according to stats. Petes even a better homerun hitter. 😂 Piss poor job by the Mets ​@@Amishtroll

[@jayb7735]

@@Pcbdude82 So Soto is a garbage outfielder..? ill come back to this comment in a year or 2!

[@diggidy600]

Because he's not that good anymore..stop being sentimental..trust management

[@diggidy600]

​@@Amishtrollexactly

[@charlescrowe7448]

It was 3 years, 90 Million, which is definitely not peanuts.

[@Dan-tt8sn]

Not true. Rumors now are that it was 3/68. Get your facts straight.

[@jimwerther]

​@@Dan-tt8sn True comment, but no need for the insult at the end.

[@Dan-tt8sn]

@@jimwerther fair enough. I deleted the 🤡. lol.

[@servingjesussinnersavedbyg8456]

I think Cohen wanted Pete to do well, and to offer him as they did is not a salary cut, it was an increase, which he didn't deserve. Me I would had paid him 15 or less, you want to play like that everyday don't sit out until you play to the caliber you are capable of. This is the major leagues, and like Buck used to say, no one is going to feel sorry for you

[@gwong1544]

Boris never claimed the Mets didn’t t offer Alonso 3 yrs for 90 mill !

[@muhammadshakoor8745]

Bottom line is, Pete mess up, did I miss all the offers he got from other teams? Refresh my memory please, so it's on him, we saw the year you had, and you're trying to get bookoo money after turning down deals, so blame yourself Pete. I'm rolling with Sterns on this one, LGM ⚾

[@servingjesussinnersavedbyg8456]

even the Bible tells us Pete, when u think too highly of yourself, be ready for a big fall

[@hectorvega7484]

I want the mets to win chips, not peoples hearts in the off-season. Pete going to boras was the worst move ever. Im not going to blame David Stearns for doing his job.

[@DavidCuevasBusinessMindset]

Evan, you are spot on with your assessment on the Pete Alonzo situation! Sign Pete, then sign Vladdy next year! Imagine the Mets lineup with Pete Alonzo, Juan Soto, Francisco Lindor, Marc Vientos, Francisco Alvarez , Vladimir Guerrero, and Brandon Nimmo! Wow!

[@charlescrowe7448]

Boras should have been more honest with Pete.

[@Tony.1974]

😂

[@stanfromwestport2024]

Boras is an agent trained as a lawyer...as far as "should have been more honest" goes

[@CG-tt9mz]

Treat your family like customers and your customers like family

[@Dizzle0919]

This is NOT a title team and that's unacceptable to me period.

[@mpound97]

Nowhere near it...smh

[@Dan-tt8sn]

💯

[@stanfromwestport2024]

We'll see about that...Just like NYY fans whining all of last off-season, even after getting Soto...I argued with Mark "Moose" Malusis on WFAN just before the 2024 season started that the "NYY are a World Series Team" which he disagreed with...He's a die-hard Yankees fan and i am a Red Sox fan...Go figure

[@Dan-tt8sn]

@@stanfromwestport2024 they suck. The Yankees had the best hitter in baseball batting behind Soto. Lindor is a top 10 player. He’s a far cry from judge and he is betting in front of Soto anyway so it doesn’t even protect him.

[@stanfromwestport2024]

@@Dan-tt8sn Yet, the METS swept the Yankees and then the Yankees lost in 5 to LAD, while METS lost in 6...So, by your logic of "they suck", it follows that the Yankees must "really suck"..Both the METS and the Yankees will be good again in 2025, make the Playoffs and maybe one of them may win-it-all...

[@salvatoremuoio4736]

I just hate this modern day sht where most teams including our Mets treat all players like mercenaries… just “pieces”, no loyalty to players… and of course, Vica versa, players like Pete giving only lip service to wanting to be a Met for his career, and instead goes out and gives the team the equivalent of the finger by turning down a very fair seven year contract and instead hiring Scott Boras.

[@Dan-tt8sn]

3/68 is not a fair offer.

[@johnnyj.5265]

Steve Cohen once said that he wants the Mets to be the Dodgers of the East. He sure isn't like he wants that.

[@Jeremy-ed7fy]

The Dodgers didn’t get where they are now by making bad shortsighted moves

[@jltweb]

This is Bourses!!! Pete has to check in with him and start to get more involved

[@jamesf.anderson1753]

This reminds me of the old Marx Brothers joke (Chico) “we couldn’t afford the limo and the driver, so we got rid of the limo!”

[@watchmanschannelofdespair]

49:18 Exactly and that's just what the Dodgers have been doing. The Dodgers don't just make one huge signing, or trade and then fiddle with minor signings and reclamation projects to fill out their remaining roster and then call it a day.

[@liberty7653]

Theyll hand out 20+ million to every crappy pitcher they see, but wont pay pete. Lame.

[@santosavila9312]

Evan is so full of crap. We were 11 games below 500 at one point 11! PA was not the catalyst to that changing. It was Lindor, Vientos and a great combination of OMG Iglesias and stellar pitiching, and our Winkers of the world. Pete Alonso is not that DUDE, i dont know wtf mets fans dont see. The goal is to win a chip, a guy that strikeouts as much as alonso plays shotty defense, cant run, cant field pop ups, cant throw, strikeouts with runs in scoring position with less than two outs, hits 240, cares about homerun derbys more than whats best for the team, letting lindor really be our All Star. This is not even a Degrom situation, its a guy thats good to better than good that guys like Evan and fans making him out to be Keith Hernandez 2.0. But guess what, he is not that. Lastly eff Boras, he is a jerk

[@Dan-tt8sn]

This lineup is trash and the pitching staff is mediocre, at best. GTFOH 🤡 🤡🤡

[@jayjayfrmstatefarm9363]

They’re too caught up in HRs. How many time Pete come up with bases loaded & does nothing when all that is needed is a single. All they care about is “homegrown,” who gives a damn. Homegrown didn’t matter when he was turning down 158M. Losing Pete Alonso ain’t that big of a deal, he did nothing all yr long but that HR vs MIL made everyone wipe away the entire season.

[@zachw2889]

Please uncle Steve we love Pete so much.

[@Tony.1974]

😂

[@Dan-tt8sn]

@@Tony.1974🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@zachw2889]

@ f,,? Phillies fans

[@DanielMadden-yz3mo]

Just because you have a crush on Pete it does not mean he is worth the money that he thinks it's still a business

[@chucklou118]

How’s that representative working out for you Pete?

[@lowkey145]

Good riddance, Alonzo is gone for now.

[@artie218]

I think that one thing not often mentioned and I’m sure is not lost on Stearns is that Pete Alonso had every motivation in a walk year to be the absolute best he could be , show the plate discipline he sometimes showed but most times did not , show all he has ..The Mets then sign him and Pete now doesn’t even have THAT motivation to do better .. As for losing the 34 home runs we also lose the hundreds of worthless outs too .. Add to that we are not talking a 25 year old but a 30 yr old who all indications show no sign of improvement, even given he somehow gets luckier bounces next year I see no reason the Mets could be blamed for not foreseeing it .. But having said all that I’d like to see the Mets sign him , and if he goes into slumps drop him in the lineup , give him some time on the bench .. As for the Milwaukee home run and there’s no denying the Mets don’t get to lose to the Dodgers without it, it’s Lindor who hit the home run against Atlanta and later Philly that made the Mets season it was..

[@donnacoulon400]

Hopefully the Mets never deal again with Scott boras

[@dominicgervasio2548]

Day 26 of asking for a Shea Station & Rico off-season crossover pod. 2 best Mets pods in the game. Jerry/Jolly Evan/Hoff would be epic.

[@servingjesussinnersavedbyg8456]

the problem with march 30th if pete comes back, he misses all spring training, and is not ready until mid May whether that is the Mets or another club

[@stanfromwestport2024]

Pete should forego golf & fishing during his holdout/hiatus and get in a batting cage so that he can figure out how to recognize a slider that breaks down & away and ends up in the dirt

[@marcbenjamin9436]

Arenado’s contract costs more than what the 3/70 offered Pete.

[@Chess4lyfe]

They’re going to stand pat this year, see what they have with the kids, and then go hard after Vladdy in 2026. That’s the year they’re going all in.

[@Pcbdude82]

David Stearns needs to go. Sorry. Taking the Brewers to the playoffs in the shitty NL central. Is not impressive. We are battling the Phillies and Braves in this division. Not the cubs and Pirates. A sub par Rotation and a weak line up isn't getting this team to the post season. Not only do we maybe not get Pete. We have no first baseman. Missing the next power bat we need.. Mets at this point dont even sniff the playoffs And everything Cohan said about this being a family is horse shit. Pete is a Homegrown talent. Done a lot for the team and the community. He's apparently not asking an arm and a leg. And for the most part he's been good for this team. Fea bad years. Welcome to sports. Everyone has bad seasons .

[@airzingis1169]

Stearns turned a bridge year into an NLCS appearance, why would they let him go

[@elliswindheim3441]

You can not be serious 😂. Pete’s on the wrong side of 30 and regressing hard. If u think he’s worth more than the deal he declined you’re delusional

[@explosivediarrhea4671]

Stearns isn’t built for new York we all said this last offseason. Mets had a lot of magic in 2024 they won’t have this same magic in 2025

[@diggidy600]

What a dumb ass take..did u expect the mets to get as far as they did last year?and u wanna get rid of stearns?you're why fans are fans and execs are execs

[@explosivediarrhea4671]

@ Mets had magic last year we will see what Stearns is this season

[@StarCooki3]

Congrats Media and Sports Talk Radio for helping run Alonso out of town .. Borassss terrible

[@yeaRightAJ]

He ran himself out of town

[@mpound97]

​@@yeaRightAJHe said "helping"...

[@alexhernandez-bp7ie]

These contracts are leaked but not everything is. We don't know if they asked if he takes it it can be for some time as DH. A 1yr deal is best for us and him. He will bring his value up this yr with Soto in lineup.

[@jamesf.anderson1753]

Add Soto, drop Alonzo? Steve Cohen wipes his butt with million dollar bills! I am not a happy Met fan. We can only hope that someday we to find another player with the makeup of Pete! I WANT HIM BACK!! Jessie Winker? Please.

[@jamesf.anderson1753]

I am still pissed for not bringing back Ray Knight!!!!

[@metjet4]

You guys look like brothers

[@SgtRobertLeynes]

THE POLAR BEAR PETE ALONSO NOT WORTH ALL THAT MONEY METS MOVE ON FROM THE POLAR BEAR PETE ALONSO HE IS DECLINING PLAYER WHO ARE INTO INJURIES PLEG NEAH METS SHOULD MOVE ON PERIOD

[@Dan-tt8sn]

What injuries?? He plays almost every single game. 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@frank716]

We need an ace on the mound and a very good hitter. Winker is not enough

[@stanfromwestport2024]

Holmes will win a Cy Young as a METS starting pitcher & Juan Soto will win an MVP as a METS hitter...So, there's that...!!

[@wjmciii887]

Just sign Pete and show the guy some respect came up through the farm has had a great career thus far just sign Pete and let's sure up that middle of the lineup

[@johnp8355]

It’s a shame to let go of a hometown hero.

[@Tony.1974]

So much for New Kings of New York😂😂😂

[@stanfromwestport2024]

As BTO said on their Hit Single, "You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet...Ba Ba Ba BABY..."

[@gregnicholls2524]

The internal option(s) that you site..is the problem. Hard to be ok with that plan B.

[@gwong1544]

Other teams will not pitch to Alonso , I think who’s behind Alonso makes the big difference !

[@anthonydecesare3170]

Maurico it was reported was not ready to play baseball now...I think an Arenado deal with the RP Hensley is possible.

[@jeffreywashington5461]

Pete may have screwed up by declining yje last deal but what if Pete have had a monster 2024. The contract discussions would have been totally different

[@TheMacdod]

We're gonna get Pete on the cheap. Stay patient.

[@eemoreau]

Mets got to bring Pete Alonso Back ! It will make more sense with The Dominican Bomber (Juan Soto) in the lineup! Come on Mets! Just do it ! FantasticoMets69… over 5 Decades a Mets Fan ! We need The polar bear 🐻‍❄️!!!

[@steveninsinna1743]

Mets and Pete reportedly...close to 20 million apart. Pete wanted 90 plus over 3 years...Mets at 68-70. Not even close. I am a Mets fan..not a Pete fan. I want my team to build the best team they can..this year and going forward. Maybe the Mets and Pete can still get together.

[@marcbenjamin9436]

The 3/70 AAV is the same as the package Pete turned down.

[@jimjames6990]

Soto 800 million Pete your FIRED

[@ejtarlo]

No reason for the Mets to offer more. Pete has no market and there is no other team that will offer Pete more

[@sportsshooter2940]

We know as Mets fans we definitely overpaid for Mr. Soto. He's not worth it. Compare his years to his contract them go to Mike Trouts years before his $400 million deal. We're gonna regret the Soto deal or hopefully out after 5. All we do is overpay. Give pete 28/30 3 yrs flat and move on to the pen.

[@MrAJ340]

3yrs, 90 mil opt outs after each season gets it done

[@gwong1544]

I think the Mets are willing to overpay players with big upside and young not for veterans on the downside !

[@bryansandersii6129]

At best u come back give him 3 yrs/ 75 mil 2.5 mil in incentives like .250. BA 40 HR 100 RBIs If he's an All-Star and if we win the world series make him bank on himself and his production to make the team successful if he wants the extra money So per year could wind up being 27.5 mil If the incentives are hit and they win the world series

[@BackMeUpVito]

Yes this. 3/75 with opt outs is the best I would offer. If he says no then it's done. Offer withdrawn. I'm sure Pete will love playing in Seattle/San Fran/Toronto/Anaheim.

[@zachw2889]

😢😢😢😢 I’m just finding this hard to understand

[@kevinkresse5823]

Vlad will be a met by spring training. Bookmark this.

[@danielsilecchia1894]

No way that’s happening

[@kevinkresse5823]

I wouldn’t be so sure. Look at how this has played out… Mets played hardball with Pete from day 1 Cohen mentioned Soto expressing he wants help/protection around him in one of their meetings prior to signing him Soto and Vlad are friends and both Dominican Mets “checked in” on Vlad a few days ago The very next day they were “moving on” from Pete Now, there’s reports on what the blue jays are looking for in a potential deal for Vlad (implying they’re at least open to the idea) Stearns is cooking something up. I think Vlad was always his choice for 1b going forward. I also think signing Pete (or not) was only the determining factor for WHEN they pursued Vlad. No Pete, go after him now. With Pete, wait a year for free agency

[@paulbarrera8089]

I would give up Clifford, Jett williams, and Baty for Vlad jr in a heartbeat.

[@robertsquared2916]

While I understand why Stearns is doing what he’s doing, the talk of Vientos to 1B and Baty or Marucio to 3B is not a good plan B. Is Marucio even playin winter ball?

[@07rayrod]

The team even with pete isnt good enough i think. Now we dont even got him

[@williamslavik117]

What bothers me is you talk about loyalty and alonso being a lifelong met. How is having opt out after each year loyalty? Have one good year and ready to run to the bigger paycheck. Cmon now.

[@TitleistATSMets4949]

What if the blue jays sign Pete Alonso and then trade vlad to the Mets because vlad is giving the blue jays a time line from now to day 1 of spring training to extend him and let’s say the blue jays sign Pete before that time line ends the Mets have been checking in on vlad and probably will a couple more times this off season decide to trade for him

[@cgtz9526]

Pete Hoffman is kind of a child. The off season is not over. Stearns did less last off season it worked out. The offense is better they replaced Soto with Pete and they still might get Pete.

[@donnacoulon400]

I think Seattle is a good team for Pete Alonso. Obviously he doesn't want to be on this team

[@jprince2992]

Sterns fired mid season

[@wjmciii887]

Worse move of Pete's career making boras his agent

[@stephencurry5800]

Thank god pete hoffman is not a GM

[@kevinminns5272]

Fudge Stearns

[@joesutherland9354]

It’s going to be funny when the Blue Jays do trade Vlad Jr this off-season and yall make an episode about why the Mets didn’t trade for him. Blue Jays aren’t getting 5 top 10 prospects for Vlad Jr he’s a FA after this season Yankees traded ( a bottom 10 farm system ) #8, #14 & #27 ranked prospects in there farm system plus Michael King & some lower level guys. Blue Jays would be lucky to get anyone else’s top 5 prospect. The best thing about the Mets is they can send Clifford in the deal ( who’s a 1B ) and he’s ranked #4 in the Mets farm system & #87 in the top 100 ( Not a single Yankees prospect they sent for Soto were in the top 100 ). I really do think y’all overvalue the market. For example Mets can trade Clifford #4, Jesus Baez #14, Alex Ramirez #24, Megill and throw in Baty and that’s way more value than what the Padres got for Soto.

[@jimwerther]

Mets are BETTER WITHOUT PETE IN 2025. Re-sign Iglesias. He and the kids are better than Pete. Sign Tanner Scott, Brooks Raley, and Quintana, and I'm good.

[@antoinelombardo8571]

Ev. You're so dramatic. So what would you offer? I mean we are going to pay him more than, freeman, walker and Olsen? Come on, maybe 24 mil per just because he plays everyday. I agree we have to pivot now, we can't enter the season without another strong bat. But Pete effed us by turning down the original offer and going to get Boras. Period.

[@michaeldepinto3562]

💔

[@jamesf.anderson1753]

Talk about no market, please no talk about Aronodo

[@sportsshooter2940]

Lets say Vlad goes 275. 29 hr. 97 rbi. Let's say Pete goes 250. 40 hrs 115 rbi. And you let Pete walk. Are you upset about letting pete go? Are you still gonna give vlad the bag? I know Vlad is younger but, are we sure he's going to be much better than pete for the next 3 to 5 yrs? I'm not to sure of that.

[@xx_steezy_xx9496]

lets say that Vlad jr hit .323 last year with 200 hits compared to pete(3yrs older)who hit .217 and .240 last 2 yrs. Cmon lol.

[@javonscott85]

Kyle Schwarber has a 4 year 79 million contract last three years 38 home runs 47 home runs 46 home runs so this excuse we have to pay Pete 40 million per year because he hits 40 home runs per year is ridiculous.

[@BackMeUpVito]

Exactly. Schwarber also had a career year with the nationals/red Sox. Pete had the worst year of his career.

[@jayjayfrmstatefarm9363]

Exactly, he’s Kyle Schwarber that plays the field. He thinks the Mets should pay him more just because 😂

[@DJNUGGET39]

He sucks why cant no body get that thru their heads hes is not a good first baseman like am i the only one who can read stats smh

[@steveninsinna1743]

👎 on this episode. Love the show. You missed the boat on this one.

[@stephensmith4724]

A stiff

[@stevenmincin263]

Evan is as ranting and contradictory as a child during divorce. Pete is not better than Brady. Yep. And he's not as good as Mauricio will be THIS YEAR when he returns. Spring training gonna be interesting this year for the first time in many - acuna, brett, mauricio, drew competing for play

[@BackMeUpVito]

Exactly 💯. We have all these young infield prospects. You're telling me at least 1 of them can put up a 2 war this season????

[@mikeJ1518]

He can’t throw can’t catch can’t run and can’t hit over .220 Not worth it

[@liberty7653]

He hit .240. His defense is fine. He is one of the best catching 1B. Power hitters dont need to run fast. Everything wrong.

[@mikeJ1518]

@ he literally falls over almost every time he runs… don’t give me scoop rate and say he is fine defensively. Because he can’t catch a fly ball. And he won’t sniff .240 again and will get over 200ks All he does is hit home runs and he barely does that.

[@wrestlingwiththebros]

Stop crying

[@Chess4lyfe]

They’re going to stand pat this year, see what they have with the kids, and then go hard after Vladdy in 2026. That’s the year they’re going all in.