WGS ET65 vs WGS Retro 30

[@vmc37]

This is by far the best WGS Speaker comparison done yet!! Great job and great tone! Appreciate the effort!

[@jp6l6]

Highly better comparison than Vaughn Skow one's ! I suppose this is what you mean ?

[@stacks4943]

The Retro 30's match the carpeting better..! :-)

[@josephfalcone1078]

It’s also more RUG-ged.

[@Auen73]

Thank you for making this comparison.....I been using a pair of ET-65's since 2013.....been curious bout the Vet & Retro 30. I'm sure they are great

[@misterfister4398]

Loving the riff on the first recording!

[@crashstitches79]

It was down to Retro 30 and ET65, and I ordered 2 ET65's. This video reinforces my decision. Cheers!

[@iplayloud2]

Commie Killer Still happy with the ET65s?

[@zerep11]

I have 2 ET65's (Top) and 2 Retro 30's (Bottom) in a 4X12 Cab pushed by a Carvin MTS-3200H fitted with JJ Tubes from Euro-Tubes. The tone from this mix is Heaven sent, from its glorious cleans to just downright screamin' dirty. My thanks go to Vaughn at WGS for making the suggestion. And because of his help, I will only use WGS Speakers from here on out. Great Demo - ROCK ON GMD...!

[@betterthandeadohyea4500]

Come on Vaughn we know this is you.

[@zerep11]

+betterthandead ohyea - Not at all. And thanks to Vaughn's recommendation, I have also outfitted my 2008 Fender FM212R with the same combination, because the stock speakers were just plain awful. So, suffice to say my FM212R sounds unbelievably fantastic, a-la as close to a Twin Reverb as one can get without paying the price, and it also takes pedals with zero issues.

[@themodularmodular]

Cool story, Vaughn :-P

[@MSongNorth1964]

Good demo, thanks. They sound quite similar to me. I don't think any ones better, I could see using et65 for a certain song for example, but the retro for another...

[@marinmarinov5510]

Fantastic comparison and playing! Both are nice for cleans but I prefer the ET65 for driven tones.

[@jussioman]

Great comparison. I use et 65s in my 2x12 cab. Head is JCM 800 2203 and its a perfect match. :) Way better than chinese Celestions these days.

[@79lpcustom]

Confirms what my ears had told me...Thanks for the demo!

[@Lovic]

79lpcustom Thanks 😉

[@RICO_SUAVE21]

ET65 clean all day… Retro 30 dirty all day 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@giorgosk2884]

The 65 is much warmer and balanced overall with nice midrange. The R30 seems a bit bright for both clean/drive tones

[@KyleSG88]

65 wins my vote here. They seem warmer, smoother and fuller with still a great crunch.

[@Macmax7077]

I have both, believe me , the R30 is one of the best speakers out there.

[@jaylow759]

@@Macmax7077 I don't believe you, because you haven't listed all speakers you have tried in your life. What if you only tried one R30 and some cheap, stock speaker included with mass production amp?

[@mdallen5]

Thanks for this!

[@theatomicpunkkk]

Great playing!!

[@anth-ny]

Excellent, thank you

[@sim0n17]

for me, the retro 30 has a tone I like and fits with what I like to play - there is quality in this WGS speakers IMO

[@mtm105]

I have Vet30/ET-65 412. The latter calms down the bark of the former to blend for a perfect fit in tone where it's hard to tell the difference. Just one COMPLETE sound.

[@7hotfuzz7]

+Michael M I have a Line 6 cab with Celestion V30's in it. I love the sound but I wanted something to balance out the tone a bit. I'm assuming the ET65 would work for the Celestions as well? I have a 1979 Marshall JMP 2204

[@MesaESP0131]

+7hotfuzz7 the benefit of running ET65s and Vet30s is the sensitivity (The over all volume of the speaker) is more balanced (within .4 Db of eachother) You may find your Celestion vintage 30 (100 Db) to be louder than the ET65 (99.45 Db) however they are close. You could be very happy with them, I know I love my ET65s to death, and I also own a pair of 1980 Celestion G12-65s (the original)

[@ericoh123]

+Michael M I have this exact same 4x12 combination in the X pattern in an old Peavey front-loaded carpeted cab, currently with a Vox AC100cph head. Long break-in period for me as I primarily practice through either a 5E3 combo with a Weber 12" or my ancient Ampeg B25 with 2 15"s. I'm otherwise waiting to power the 4 x 12"s with a JTM-45 circuit head and confident it's going to be a great tone machine once I get some volume hours on both. I might try mounting them in a lighter and more resonant plywood cab instead of the MDF cab in the future.

[@7hotfuzz7]

+MesaESP0131 finally got the et-65's in and it sounds great. Really nice balance....the V30's are a just a tiny tiny bit louder but the ET-65s really have a pronounced sound

[@MikeAndersonvinyloldies]

X pattern? Or top and bottom?

[@jp6l6]

I've 3 cabinets, one with WGS ET-65, one with Retro 30 and an other with Jensen Jet Tornado. Finally I prefer the Retro 30 for clean up to 80's hard rock.

[@jaychen2000metal]

Reaper 30's

[@sunriseRISE]

id love to hear you play a brit invasion ''song'' from 64-65----- some slashing rhythms settings from the beatles the who the kinks -

[@dominikpohli2381]

i like that upper mid bite from retro 30

[@Marcoshary]

Would there be any chance that you could do a demo of the Vet 30 too? Thanks

[@GlennMarshallRocks]

WGS ET-65 0:14 WGS RETRO 30 1:24

[@xDTHx]

2:22 ET65 3:21 RETRO 30

[@bootlegapples]

both sound good here...kinda liking the ret 30 for crunch,seems to have a bit more snarl

[@jp6l6]

bootlegapples A bit more bite too.

[@rodneyracoon]

The ET65 sounded better in both samples to my ears, the sound of classic rock! The retro isn't bad but it's a tad harsh and bright. I have a retro30 in my peavey valve king that I'm looking to replace(too bright for this amp). Now I'm torn between the veteran30 and the ET65.

[@silentstormstudios]

Thanks for this comment. I have a Peavey ValveKing II and I was torn between the Retro 30 and the ET65. Knowing that the ValveKing is already a bright amp and that's part of the reason that I'm looking for a different speaker, I think I will go for the ET65 in hopes it will warm the amp's sound up a bit. No point in buying another bright speaker as that would defeat the goal.

[@jaychen2000metal]

Got 2 Reaper 30's, probably putting 2 Retros in my 4X12 also

[@Marcoshary]

Great demonstration of these two speakers! one of the best in the web, concerning WGS speakers. I would say TH6 for classic rock and Retro 30 for hard rock! Although I'm looking for good speakers mainly for hard rock and 80's metal, I really enjoyed the ET65 here! Both sound great!

[@Marcoshary]

+GCKelloch Thank you so much for clarifying. Which one would be the HP speaker? Thanks

[@chuchuchip]

What kind of pups used, single coil or humbuckers?

[@Lovic]

Fender 51 Nocaster 😉

[@lyric.kayden]

Would (4) ET65’s in a 4x12 be good or (4) ET90’s in a 4x12? Curious but I’m leaning towards (2) Retro 30’s and (2) ET90’s. Thoughts?

[@jaychen2000metal]

4 retro might be boomy, i'd mix. Leaning towards veteran 30's and 65 by these guys

[@jaychen2000metal]

Reapers

[@guitaristwilllane]

thank you so much

[@JoeAsbridge]

The retro 30 sounded a bit more like eighties metal to me and the et65 sounded more like the stones. With the same riff. Wild.

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[@thorinbane]

Kinda meh, my jensens sound as good, really ain't saying much.

[@aimes3647]

thorinbane Jensens!??? WTF - pick them up at Walmart-mart did ya? Good show ol' chap.... feel free to brag about your Wally-world guitar speaks

[@jasonmcdaniel2325]

Aimes you know wally world sells wgs speakers too, right?