What $500,000 in Landscaping Looks Like in California!!

[@peteryates7505]

Of course…a contractor loves a client that doesn’t complain about timeline, pays whatever is asked and doesn’t know when it is built right.

[@flexman70]

His client is so good and lenient with everything it costed him half a mil. He made out with a grip. Homie prolly didn't even know what he was really paying for. He just wants to see the job done and says yes to whatever this dude was telling him smh.

[@simonsaysno]

That part was driving me nuts! People, please sign bulletproof contracts before any actual work takes place. The last thing you want is for a contractor to screw you over.

[@jimjefftube]

LOL!

[@jimjefftube]

Half million dollars? Even at $30-$40 per hour, its a joke that you could have spent $500,000 and you definitely took advantage of this homeowner.

[@This_tub]

@Awisefish why you talk like a getto rat? Lol

[@nosaoyemade9618]

I live in SoCal and we had half acre of land and the house came with no landscaping, it cost us 110K for a pool, spa, built-in bbq, 2 patio covers, a low wall spanning the width, ie 100 feet, another 50 ft of walls around the courtyard, (all stuccoed, 14 queen palm trees, 6 pigmy palms,8 ficus trees, lots of flagstones in the backyard and around the pool and spa. Half a million is excessive. There was a handball and tether ball court.

[@nosaoyemade9618]

@@777trader8 they do that because the people they cater to are techies who don’t think those prices are ridiculous.

[@nosaoyemade9618]

@@777trader8 😂😂😂😂

[@nosaoyemade9618]

@Anh Đào sorry, I don’t know where he is, he moved out of State.

[@nosaoyemade9618]

@Anh Đào my pleasure

[@restainer]

@@nosaoyemade9618 Is the rumor true that your contractor was unlicensed, planted 14 stolen Queen Palms in your yard, 5 diseased Pygmy Palms, and disappeared in the night with some other customer's money?

[@jameslynch4042]

I'd like to see the backyard two years from now & see how everything's holding up.

[@davidr4523]

So your definition of a great client is one you can overcharge and accepts, without issue, any errors in your work? You should have charged $200K to $250K for this project. I would have loved this client to. For $500K you did not build a firepit?

[@chriskarsseboom2200]

Should've charged? You sound broke dude. Know your area and charge accordingly

[@astromeo3467]

​@@chriskarsseboom2200 Theres a difference between being broke and smart with your money. The best way to stay rich is by using your capital effectively and efficiently. This would not be a good use of that capital, this person got scammed.

[@chriskarsseboom2200]

@@astromeo3467 who are you replying to? Did you read his comment?

[@watda011]

The real thief is the landscape company. No way this is 500k worth of landscaping.

[@articexplorer]

This was done I imagine in SoCal hence the 500k.

[@scardera]

@@articexplorer Watda is right, even 30 days of 10h with 10 men at an average of 35$/h = $105,000. There's no way it took 30 days to begin with and theres no way 400k went in materials/trees etc.

[@matthewp1682]

you must not live in ca

[@josephpasquarella878]

You sure about that?

[@parkerjeffreyzellers753]

You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about

[@forwardfollower2401]

Great video!! As someone who owns rentals and have used countless contractors, you speak facts about the pure cost of materials and labour. This isn't a reality TV show where the builds are unrealistic, this is reality and NO ONE works for less than $20/hr on any renovation crew, unless you DIY. And something of this magnitude, let the Pro's take over, cheaper in the long run in my opinion. Loved your transparency, thanks for posting.

[@landmarkcreations1183]

It’s amazing when you get a good customer. It makes you want to do more for them. A lot of homeowners don’t get that..Absolutely gorgeous job T. Guys did great 👍

[@MustBeDemClevelands]

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!

[@777trader8]

Nice job but no way in hell does that cost $500,000.

[@retrogamer2548]

10K dollars max. Here in Texas got something much bigger for 4-5K.

[@loyalkeyboardcoolkid-co-le782]

Especially with that fake grass, it made the whole thing look cheap. It should cost no more than 50k.

[@richardc3693]

Y’all know nothing clearly

[@graniteriver4691]

As we are going through our backyard pool and landscape design and install here in SoCal, I can assure you those numbers are correct when everything is included, planting etc.

[@kevinm.1565]

@@retrogamer2548 10K is impossible…did you mean to say 100K?

[@jcw8706]

Theres no way that should cost $500K unless you are building it on the Dark Side of the Moon! My friend lives in Manhattan Beach ($$$$) California and has a equally beautiful backyard complete with a salt water pool, BBQ pit set in stone work, a mini Kitchen, a hot tub and an entertainment area and it was only $250K. Easy going clients get taken for a ride apparently... 🤦🏼‍♂🤷🏼‍♂

[@whatsupwithsteve]

That sounds a lot closer to what I figured. I thought maybe $125k for the pool and $100k for the hardscape, then maybe $50 for that fake grass..:)

[@TomsPropertyCare]

Depends on where you live along with supply and demand. Where I'm at contractors can basically name a price and if the client doesn't take it the price goes up once they've gone through other contractors and arrived back at their original choice. There is such a shortage that clients are tapping contractors 100's of miles away.

[@etires562]

@@whatsupwithsteve 125k for a pool is a joke here in california. $80k for a simple standard one.

[@etires562]

this guy is in nor cal, everything is more expensive there. Manhattan beach area is considered middle income compared to where the area this guys works out of.

[@trippg3261]

Yea this is in the Bay Area. Manhattan beach is cheap compared to here 😢

[@LtMav-zk2qo]

Nice! I would add some lighting on the steps and around the perimeter.

[@siliconvalleylife2.048]

Tigren always says in California. California is one of the largest states. Tigren works in Silicon Valley. Silicon Valley is the highest cost of living in the entire United States. The cost of living in the Sacramento California area is 75% less expensive than Silicon Valley California. Labor in Salinas or Lincoln or Modesto California is a lot lot cheaper than in Silicon Valley California. So it isn't simply California. It's specifically Silicon Valley California : Menlo Park, Saratoga, Los Altos, Redwood City, San Jose, Mountainview all of Silicon Valley homes start at $1 million, most cost more than a million. You have to earn $300,000 a year to buy a home here.

[@aaroncover2762]

You are correct. I am from the Modesto area and labor costs less than Silicon Valley.

[@AlexRodoni]

This guy gets it lol. LG/Saratoga native. Took my 300k/yr to el dorado hills where the dollar goes farther lol

[@siliconvalleylife2.048]

@@AlexRodoni I'm buying a duplex there in 2024.

[@dieselmex1808]

Can you make a video breaking down your costs + time of running your KZbin channel and how you manage both KZbin and landscaping together ?

[@manylaughs9002]

Hi, Tigran! How do you price out your projects? Do you add a margin on top of all material costs and call it a day or do you add in costs of delivery, dumps, square foot (per material used), etc...? If you already have a video discussing a breakdown of these things, will you please point me in the right direction? Thank you so much for your videos!

[@israellopez5862]

T I enjoy viewing your videos, sometimes built right cost money. Having the peace of mind with clients and your contractors is gold!!!!

[@lifeongps]

Did the rain last week wash this away.?,,,lol

[@JLT2342]

Wow, a beautiful work! The cement steps look so nice and standing out. The Techo Bloc paver also very nice. What is the color of the Techo bloc pavers that you used?

[@EthanMiller-h6g]

Wow, this is next-level landscaping! 😍 I actually got my own pool installed by Backyard and Home in Bakersfield, and they did an amazing job. If you're thinking about adding a pool to your backyard, I highly recommend them, they really know how to turn your space into an oasis!

[@georgeallen4007]

I was working for mguire and Hester in the landscape Division . I capped at $48 an hour 😅 paying someone $20 doing landscape construction in the Bay Area is ridiculous

[@BMe-ck6fd]

I live in Bay Area also-$500k for this in Bay Area?- I know costs have gone up but a pool and fountain and landscaping for 500k?

[@seattleprowash5464]

@@BMe-ck6fd its pretty low tbh. In Seattle projects like this are usually more like a million

[@jontorres8408]

This video gave me so much motivation it’s also cool to hear from the boss perspective and the hunger to grow his business all though you make money people will hate that but I don’t care this what it takes

[@Skybar23]

are there solar plant lights built on the small plants /gardens next to the stairs and lights installed all long the wall....I reckon they will need some sort of pool gazebo or pool shelter that covers the outdoor dining area. Comes handy if they were hosting a get together

[@codygainz6981]

I still feel like this could of been a 150k-200k job in another state and maybe in the cheapest states 60-80k

[@davidr4523]

I agree. Even in California this project should have cost $250K max.

[@codygainz6981]

@@davidr4523 true im just guessing but idk how long he said they worked on it and how many guys were on the job but definitely

[@EldePHX]

Go get quote let’s see if you’re right🤡

[@Usernam-l6oo]

@@EldePHX Did get a quote. Ur a clown 🤡

[@gmchrisx]

U forgetting how much was them special trees

[@ormondnorthup26]

That’s crazy money for that small backyard

[@dimitarchakarov8473]

Hello, I really liked the tiles you put up, I would be very grateful if you could give me some link to them or some other information to find them (5:39)

[@gerardguida7727]

I understand why your so proud of this project...... its absolute perfection 😍

[@restainer]

Congratulations! That job looks terrific, and good on you to distribute the credit to everyone who contributed to project (including the client!). Excellent and compelling video too....well done. it would be great to know some more detail on the projects' "dimensions" meaning sq ft of the project area, size of pool, and brief timeline talk. You mentioned that it is not great to have overlap of subcontractors; did that happen? What was the flow? Thanks again for making the effort and sharing your work. Double thumbs.....10 out of 10!

[@TigranGertz]

The back was about 6k sqft. Pool guys started first. After the installed the coping. We came in to do the walls and prep. We left, deck guys came. After them we finished up.

[@westtexasconstruction]

"CHANGE ORDERES" my new favorite term. I'm gonna start using that on my estimates.

[@ismaelbarba2709]

Wow you guys got over big time. I can see why that’s your favorite kind of customer

[@GabrielRoberts-o4z]

Looks amazing brotha you have a great team soon you’ll be doing way better and bigger things

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Absolutely spot on mate loved it all, love to come out and see what your doing and vlog about it, Happy New Year Johnyboy

[@XroorX]

When a client wants a $500k landscape design, you nod “yes!” Great time lapse and beautiful install! Happy New Year!

[@cranberryeater7459]

Crappy home is probably $200,000. And owner spends $500,000 on landscaping? … somewhere in la-la world.

[@davidvanbrunt4233]

@@cranberryeater7459 house is way more than 200k.....it's California.

[@cranberryeater7459]

@@davidvanbrunt4233 maybe. Anywhere else it would be $200,000. It’s not an interesting home by any standard. Just a cheap standard build home.

[@MarsTradingStrategies]

@@cranberryeater7459 lol it’s california. The house is over a million dollars. California is not anywhere else. Buildable land is scarce and highest population state. Obviously Million dollar house minimum.

[@cranberryeater7459]

@@MarsTradingStrategies perhaps California is that La-La world. Nothing ever made sense in California. I rather go where there is less craziness.

[@lisakratzmann9468]

one of the best jobs you have done, exceptional. Only thing is the widow maker in the background, we had one near our pool, and the sap from the gum leaves, stained the bottom of the pool,

[@Npol777-e5q]

great work pool and patio !!!

[@Deepimpactocean]

tigran, do you mind sharing the spec on the turf.

[@OldSchoolIntegrity]

I don’t remember hearing the revenue breakdown percentages as you mentioned earlier on in the video. Am I mistaken? Did I miss it?

[@menochivo9507]

It does look supreme for sure, but the gray and concrete look a little too industrial, or commercial. For my taste it would need to be less gray. The trees around the perimeter are awesome little touch, and I do think the artificial grass was a smart move.

[@younney1533]

I would have done a botanical garden with 500k 🤣.

[@star2be83]

Dude got ripped off 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@mostwardi4389]

@@star2be83 ripped is a soft word. English dictionary need to find an other new word for this case.🤔

[@wordsaladd]

Gold leaf plants too

[@zavugaderek3306]

Everything looks deadon level! What tool do you use for keeping levels on track

[@ROBBBBBBY]

In certain semi to exclusive communities in California that is perfectly reasonable. The contractor didn’t make bank,and the client didn’t get taken. Everyone must be insured, everyone is an employee - no day laborers. You pass through gates at 7:30 am and leave by 4:00, and only X number of vehicles on-site per day. Need a concrete truck? Better request permission at least 3 days in advance. Four axle crane? Nope. You have to use a three axle to lower a spider crane (if even possible) to move trees and boulders, and you’ll need traffic control, plus 72 hour neighbor notification. If neighbor objects for any reason, full stop, until resolved. Out after 4:00? $500 fine per vehicle, it’s on camera you get a bill. Don’t pay, don’t get in the gate next week. Four trucks out the gate late per day is $2,000 a day,or $10,000 a week. Work on the weekend is forbidden. Work the day before and after certain holidays forbidden. You and your crew are not getting in. Sand in a sandbag when it should be gravel for permeability, or vice-versa? You better have it right ore water district will fine you. Plans, you better have them. Signed. Changes, better be approved. God save you if the California Coastal commission is involved. Can take 12-18 months to get through. And changes with them? Your clients may have grandchildren before it’s approved. Should you throw caution to the wind to save a buck? Well, get shut down, and there goes your reputation. Have had Texas clients move to California and tell me they could do the job for less than half there. Well, you can go back, or have a pool on a cliff over looking the Pacific built on 30 caissons and double curtain rebar the size of your femur with a subterranean equipment room the size of an apartment. That’s a million dollar plus, just for the pool. That’s California. Contractors aren’t making bank, but wages. The dollars might be higher, but the costs are too.

[@robertwalegir8677]

Very professional and the way that turned out it’s very beautiful going up the concrete stairs instead of those plants I may have done a fire feature

[@TheArtofWarChina]

A young dude drops $500k just on a pool and deck... "My favor customer Ever!" 😂😂

[@paracelsusish]

Awesome landscaping ,great job guys ! could you tell me please is it possible to plant Plants in the turf? is it possible to dig through the turf if you want to plant some plants after turf instalation?

[@michaelmansini2307]

No absolutely not

[@Acanofbeer]

Amazing project and amazingly high price. This would cost about £150,000 in the UK ($200k). The labour prices are very high compared to here but that said the finish is great.

[@Sierrapoolco]

As a pool signer, I’ll say this is a beautiful pool! Those steps are on the money 🔥🔥🔥 great work

[@mndovrkdrkmtr9951]

Was the pool installation included?

[@kevinj8431]

Why you couldn’t do pavers?

[@mjacksonjones]

Amazing work!! What size is the pool?

[@chuy25]

Commercial dump truck driver here with experience in turf , and basic landscaping, are you looking for someone to add ?

[@Bb-br3xg]

Bay Area is absurd w prices. A new 30 by 20 ft driveway at our clients luxury home was 140k including custom stone work, high end pavers, landscape lighting etc it adds up 😭😭😭

[@stoner27th]

you all work so fast moving like the flash, definitely worth paying 500k

[@TroyG43]

T, your crew’s do incredible work! I like how you run your business. Keep it up T!

[@samuelharding257]

Everyone sees the overall cost, but no one sees how much it costs in labor and materials. Materials are insanely expensive and that’s just what it is. If you want the expensive fancy materials… you pay higher prices. What about labor? Tigran pays his employees really good money so they do great quality of work. You want stuff put together and looking sharp… you pay higher prices. If you really want to save money, you pay more for better materials and more importantly better labor and people doing the work. Otherwise, pay less and you’ll be paying more later when you have to re-do the shit show that you paid for.

[@euphoriarealtygroup]

250k-300k job max here in Socal. but this was probably done during pandemic when labors are hard to find. 500k is bit overpriced but not out of this world.

[@Drosautodetail]

GOAT 🐐

[@adamsdailydriveway]

Well I mean in Michigan I spent $75k on my driveway, front walkway turned into a 4ft wide paver walkway, retainer wall with lighting, 10ft wide stairs ontop the pavered from Porch. Then I was gonna add a pool which would be 70-100k, nothing even fancy lol but 500k??? Mmmm

[@archzay5073]

I work as a landscape architect for NWD in Palm Beach, Florida. I can assure you designing is expensive but the outcome will always be much more suitable for the client. Some clients make landscape design adjustments and sell the house, making more profit then what it was intentionally going for. To make money, you have to spend money 👍🏻

[@Holmescoss]

Who are you using for financing?

[@TigranGertz]

No one. Cash

[@dillonmennie8694]

@@TigranGertz so no 1mm in debt!? big pimpin

[@michaelcohen5466]

Where is the bbq station?

[@mehmet284]

wow amazing job so impressive indeed for that price we also can big villa here in netherlands but it turns very gorgeous and finish is so impressive

[@siliconvalleylife2.048]

This is an awesome job. Your guys do great work 👏 👏 👏

[@t3truedesigns]

Love this.. new sub!

[@TigranGertz]

Welcome 🙏

[@ManuelResyes]

It's good you respect your workers and understand there skills not many businesses owners do that nice job

[@r3jk8]

Lollipop laurels are English laurels as well? Or bay laurels? Can you recommend a good nursery in Bay Area?

[@kylenmaple4668]

“Good customer” lmfao😂

[@ernestvernon9658]

Absurd times we live in. The roi will never be realized for the homeowner. Just throwing money away. Embarrassing.

[@gradywray5391]

You have to understand that even a smaller house like this is 2-3 million dollars. Most of the people that live there are making 300-500k a year. It’s all about percentages.

[@jackneish1626]

You’ll find some people spend money to improve there living area, these people don’t worry about ROI

[@ernestvernon9658]

@@jackneish1626 *their. I can have no further conversations with you.

[@theobelisk101]

His work is horrible too . This guy's professionalonalism is horrible, one of the worst I've seen from a business owner

[@jojoreynoso9408]

If you're broke just say so 😂

[@leomartinez1213]

140k for 8 stairs Ahahaha

[@ronsantiago9736]

In the Philippines you can get this landscape and a house for $500,000.

[@Tchild2]

We have a five hundred K landscaping job in Utah and we can't get any landscapers to work. It has been 4 years trying to finish our place.

[@donnuyen9858]

LOL at all the comments stating that should be a $150k to $200k job, The trees alone probably cost almost as much as the pool. That decking is high end. Everything is done top notch.

[@jattworld1984]

Looking at this job and the price. I know who Not to Hire for a backyard landscape. 🙌

[@TigranGertz]

Can’t hire or won’t 😂

[@jattworld1984]

@@TigranGertz Well Jerk🤡, Now i know fo sure i am not wrong in my assessment

[@jimw9415]

Nice overall, pool could use some water features a bit blah.

[@waterandearth]

We had some water features planned but they were backed up die to supply issues and didn't make sense to delay project.

[@PittX]

Is it hard to maintain those plants with a retailing wall 3:25 like this?

[@irwingflores7922]

Great amazing work applewood 🍎 keep doing what you doing 👍🏽

[@anilarora4868]

Really very awesome house with beautiful pool..Just wow!

[@evanBigPrice]

I will literally have 20 acre lots for sale in hill country Texas for that!

[@alexavila6124]

Bro you just gain a fan bro I love how you just straight forward an tell it how it is bro. God bless an wish u the best in life

[@notshylo]

Anyone know what kind of trees those are along the fence behind the pool? Edit: nvm finished the video 😅 (Lollipop Laurel)

[@bonsummers2657]

Ficus microcarpa nitida

[@not.likely]

Your comments are totally true. I've been a landscape contractor on high end landscapes for over 30 years in Africa. Most people will never understand the price, but that's because they have no experience in this line. In landscaping, you get what you pay for. Green is not cheap or free, in fact, green is costly if you want the best job. Costs always but always escalate and never take on cheap jobs, they will only ruin your reputation. Clients always compare what 'they think' they will get with more prestigious constructions and are invariable disappointed with what their money bought. Going in cheap is 'never' an option. When a client does not want to pay for a professional design, my rule is, stay clear of them. 'Always' use skilled sub contractors, no chancers. 'Do not' undertake constructions aspecrs that you are not geared to, like wooden decking, lighting etc. Always sub them out. Take less profit but supply a perfect product. Build everything absolutely solidly, to spec and to contractual agreement...and you can't go wrong. And for sure, be on site, everyday, all day. The boss always makes the most money when he is in his shop (an old Portuguese proverb roughly translated into english)

[@gadambavictor2188]

which country/area in Africa, if I may ask. My grandma is from Tigray Ethiopia

[@ruby0711]

people can buy their dream home with that kind of money... geez sooo much but man that is a Fine looking outdoor space! 👍

[@martins4100]

Gorgeous work and great crew !

[@e4d578]

So listen everyone. TG is running a lottery system, in effect. I think he does great work. But the success requires you to consider how his web business ties into everything. For the most part, yeah, I'd say he is legimate. But you need to think that almost all of his videos entice you to join his Goat Gang. It is expensive. And then you'd have to pay more for more insights, courses, etc. That, I think is really what boost his bottom line. I dobut that the Lambo he purchased was from the landscaping directly, but indirectly. The lottery that he puts out is that a lucky winner will win some expensive piece of equipment, but ONLY if you join his Goat Gang. That money fuels a signficant amount to hold more lotteries and profits. It is what it is. Just thought that you all should be aware.

[@theangryrktkt8385]

“He understood change orders” congratulations, you found a unicorn!

[@LORRAIN-lz3wn]

Honestly, those guys built the hell out of that deck and the pool looks great. I kinda would rather have a quality job done than sloppy work that I have to see every time I go to the backyard. Would have preferred real grass though.

[@MrAkatosh]

I’m happy to say I can do all this myself from the coping to retaining wall, to pavers and excavation, decking and trees, tile. All except the pool and stairs those one person can’t do alone. Those stairs came out beautiful tho well formed also it’s hell when those type are formed wrong. Skills I’ve learned in a few years now I’m one of the best for everything even lighting and welding, If I ever do my own house this size I’d be able so save so much doing everything alone. Just have supplies handed to me. Met a guy the other day retired firefighter did his own home from wall to pillars and fence himself. So rewarding when you do it yourself And not pay 500k Maybe 200k max

[@davidr4523]

Great comment. I absolutely agree with you that this project looks very nice but he overcharged in my estimate by $200K. For $500K he did not even include a fire pit.

[@BOAH247]

It’s California

[@gobricklaying106]

T. You have some talented people working for you. Looks great. 🎄

[@EvolutionOutdoorLiving]

Yo T what do you mean by power circle

[@jkangpolo]

How far north in Bay Area is your service area?

[@smart-aquatics]

Awesome Project! ❤️

[@elegantlawnservicesllc8419]

Looks fantastic 😮good work

[@cookiekiller500]

He said the backyard was $500k not his landscaping. #1 it's California so it's automatically 30% more than anywhere else. That pool should be $100k because of infinity edge and the rest $150k max. I put that yard at $250k $280k on the high side.

[@TigranGertz]

Deck -$100k Landscaping-$200k Pool $140k Plants-$60

[@TigranGertz]

I don’t know how much simpler I could have made that in the video

[@carovillegas6555]

Hydrochill turf cooling sand infill woulda helped keep it cool

[@mashaperel605]

$500,000😂😂😂😂😂😂 I guess fools never die. As a contractor, in California, this job is not scraping the low $300,000 Including a nice profit. People are dumb!🤦‍♂️

[@arthurarmenta7834]

I'm pretty sure that was way over priced. You can find contractors that would do it for less. And just as nice and with that artificial grass that was not nice. Real grass is always the best. These contractors are taking advantage of people that have money.

[@arthurarmenta7834]

You got that right.I'm gonna agree with you.They're taking advantage of people

[@MichaelChengSanJose]

That is crazy nice. I dropped $180K on my backyard and only got some basic pavers, deck, and a retaining wall. It’s soooo expensive in the Bay Area.

[@mannyman4103]

I do projects like this here in AZ for $100K.... I need to move to California so I'll be able to get more money for these projects.

[@topfan06]

Great work love it

[@CFLDumpsters]

😂 how do folks not realize people sometimes want what they want in and around their home, no matter the cost? It’s not always about ROI, it’s your home. In Cali homes are absurdly expensive. A family member bought a 1300 sq ft tear down for 800k almost 20 years ago, after dumping almost the equivalent of purchase price into renovations inside and out (including lifting the whole house and building out the basement into a small apt of 1150 sq ft,) over last 15-16 years it appraised at almost 4.7m today.

[@Lysieclarke]

How long did this take

[@americanleisurepools6431]

Looks outstanding 🙌

[@ruben_7766]

I’m a landscaper along with my dad and uncle. We do all this for a company, my uncle is the main guy for all the man masonry work with my dad but they don’t want to pay us more than $25 an hour💩. So I quit found a side job and am starting my own company. I’m glad your paying your guys right 🙏🏻

[@TheVineOfChristLives]

I was born in San Jose. 35/40 an hour for a mason is why I left that crazy place.

[@utente1489]

Its good