What a Covert U.S. Government UFO Program Discovered with Colm Kelleher

“He stated that the United States was in possession of a craft of unknown origin and had successfully gained access to its interior. This craft had a streamlined configuration suitable for aerodynamic flight but no intakes, exhaust, wings, or control surfaces. In fact, it appeared not to have an engine, fuel tanks, or fuel.”
Quote from ‘Inside the US Government Covert UFO Program: Initial Revelations’
Colm A. Kelleher, Ph.D., is a biochemist with a fifteen-year research career in cell and molecular biology. Following his Ph.D. in biochemistry from the University of Dublin, Trinity College in 1983, Kelleher worked at the Ontario Cancer Institute, the Terry Fox Cancer Research Laboratory, and the National Jewish Center for Immunology and Respiratory Medicine. For the past eight years he has worked as project manager and team leader at a private research institute, using forensic science methodology to unravel scientific anomalies.
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[@LAMPROS311]

0:33 I didn't know that Junior Soprano has testified about UAP phenomena.

[@EventHorizonShow]

That’s Senator Goldwater.

[@LAMPROS311]

@@EventHorizonShow Thanks for the information and for accepting my silly sense of humour.

[@cameronwebb5621]

Pretty sure that's Larry David

[@leonidas6134]

Unelected bureaucrats & some corrupt elected officials (gatekeepers) are operating through illegal means to acquire and coverup off world tech as their fief. Bc feudalism, greed, and power.. while the MIC profits using taxpayer dollars to fund their research & black projects. “The absence of evidence regarding life elsewhere, is not evidence of its absence.” - Avi Loeb

[@Makeveli420]

never had the makings of a varsity athlete

[@woody5109]

I’m an astrophotographer, taking clear photos of something in the sky is very difficult, even with expensive gear. So snapping a quick photo with your iPhone is doomed to fail, especially if it’s moving, I’ve tried many times and always end up with blurry garbage.

[@EventHorizonShow]

Phone cameras have no real focal length.

[@ZeroAlligator]

@@EventHorizonShow #PhoneFocalLengthIsALie

[@gravoc857]

Last spring, someone in the neighborhood had a birthday party for their kid in their backyard. A gold helium balloon had escaped & was floating like 100ft above the ground through the neighborhood. I saw it and snickered, thinking someone might think it’s a UFO & would go on to tell others about their UFO encounter. I pulled up my camera to snap a photo of it, and my phone camera just couldn’t handle even this low altitude birthday balloon. Completely clear and blue sky’s, and mid day spring light. It looked like a damned UFO you’d see on r/UFOS. Amazing to me how good our eyes are and how bad our phone cameras are. I was able to instantly make out what the object was when I saw it. Yet the photo my phone captured looks… weird. Like without context, it could easily be interpreted as an alien craft. Yet, it was just a birthday balloon..

[@Michael-im4ec]

The government lied so much, it is difficult to distinguish the truth from their lies. I just wish, I knew the truth of matters of importance.

[@martincollins6632]

Go watch the interview Chris Leto did with Dr Courtney Brown. The interview explains where you can find information on how to capture quality footage.

[@solanumtinkr8280]

I once tried to take a phone picture of a helicopter in broad daylight, good lighting and it was hovering at a distance of about 300 ft as it inspected something. I expected to get the tail number. What I got as a dozen+ attempts to get something that approached "just blury". I'd have done better to get out a pair of binoculars and a pen and paper... You can have the best lenses in the world, but if your post process of the RAW image into a PNG or whatever sucks, then it does not matter how many of those devices you have out there, it's still garbage.

[@EventHorizonShow]

The problem with phone cameras is focal length. They have digital zoom, not a lens capable of capturing something moving quickly and far away.

[@ericgraham8150]

Yeah this is a fair criticism for the lack of quality UFO images

[@kosmosgalactic6221]

For quality pre-digital thoroughly vetted photos look up McMinnville photo and Lake Cote photo@@ericgraham8150

[@user-re5zc2ss5h]

I don’t buy that for a second because there seemed to be plenty of claimed up close encounters in decades past before we had billions of cell phones all over the planet. Whether the New Mexico one or the Walton story or the schoolchildren in Africa we kept hearing about shapes of their heads and seeing them walking around their ships and so on. But now that cameras are everywhere they’re always miles away over the hills. Bull…

[@persephonesmee1720]

Yeah, everyone who complains about blurry/unfocused images "when everyone has a smartphone in their pocket" owes me a dozen high-fidelity shots of their local planes and flying birds from their own phone camera. I took some pictures of a bald eagle today that was probably less than 150 feet away, in broad daylight, with a phone that does have at least SOME optical zoom-and the shots are still fuzzy as hell. Add poor light conditions + surprise and unpreparedness + the photographer's own fear/excitement, and yeah, you're gonna get garbage shots. You can complain when everyone has a professional super telephoto lens in their pocket.

[@outlandersystems552]

1) This might be Kelleher's best interview ever 2) JMG going down the malfunctioning Von Neumann probe rabbit hole legitimately frightened me. It's too explanatory for some of the weird/woo and inconsistent aspects of the phenomenon. 3) This might be the most important summation of the subject to date, truncated into 1 hour. 4) The deliberate technological seeding thought experiment was a take I had not heard or considered before. 5) The manufactured automaton/biologics was another intelligent observation. John Michael should be on any potential UAP Disclosure Board. His ability to apply game theory and coherent extrapolated imagination to the subject is extremely fresh. I desperately want a part 2.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Thanks, and there will be a part II with a very special guest if I can get him. Probably pretty obvious who that might be, I'll just say get ready for a French accent if I can make it happen. I didn't mention them, but I've come up with two other options that sit within known cosmology and science to float, but am saving them for that specific guest. They're actually scarier than the malfunctioning von Neumann option, yet are plausible and do provide that same explanatory effect for the weird aspects of the phenomenon.

[@outlandersystems552]

@@JohnMichaelGodier absolutely. Tell him to bring his passport... I mean this deeply, and sincerely. Your perspectives brought forth in this interview both surprised me and stimulated intense reflection on the subject for me. I cannot express how fresh these ideas were. Well done.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

​@@outlandersystems552 He's really the perfect guest to discuss it with, and I'm about ready having read all of his books. So as the modern interest in UFOlogy with all the developments over the last few years came out, the UFO people were asking me to take a serious, open minded look at it and put some thought into it from my perspective as a hard science fiction writer. You're hearing the fruits of what I've come up with, and also my efforts to help tamp down the taboo on serious discussion of it.

[@JamesMacPh]

Please make it happen (French accent guest, ha!) Also I have to admit I remember your Von Neumann probe idea from before. I’m not sure I want it to be true, but I have loved it since hearing it .. sort of a lonely romantic notion; but if there is such a thing (possibly hiding in our oceans occasionally creating UFOs and crews) it is disturbing that we still have little to no control over it broken as it is ..

[@joeregan3570]

I agree with point 3

[@dark-cn9yq]

I Think ETs are the easiest explanation we jump to but personally, I believe it definitely could be more complex and difficult to understand than simply alien life, maybe it's something completely natural to earth or even to reality itself that we don't or can't understand and perceive.

[@RobMacMusic]

We're in a simulation and they're the mods.

[@RIDIC1]

It's that and much much more. It's going to take a lot of inner work on our part. Very exciting and apprehensive times 😬

[@dapawaz8310]

The thing is, we know so little about reality and even less about consciousness. These things could easily be something we've never even considered.

[@snave59]

The U.S. government knows exactly who they are, and where they are from.UFO's and ET's are the highest classified, top secret subject, there is, in the government.@@dapawaz8310

[@mckirkus]

If we relatively simple humans are on the brink of super intelligence (AI) imagine what a civilization with a few billion years of technological development built on top of Artificial Super Intelligence could do. Actually, I can't imagine.

[@TMAC_burninator]

I strongly dislike the "cell phones are everywhere with high definition cameras" argument. Mainly because cell phone cameras are only high definition if your subject is up close.

[@Bow-to-the-absurd]

It highlights the fact theres cameras everywhere. Do you see ?

[@MIck-M]

When quality is high, people tend to use that as evidence of fakery also because it is 'too good'.

[@KnightspaceORG]

​@@MIck-MOr maybe there is no high quality footage of any of those phenomena. Maybe because it's not some extraterrestrial or supernatural nonsense?

[@MIck-M]

@@KnightspaceORG I aren't delving into 'truth' or otherwise - merely skeptics' usual given reasons for debunking pics and vid regardless of the quality but yet 'because' of the quality. It does fascinate me that both sides get equally triggered just having the convo as well lol.

[@kms08711]

​@@KnightspaceORGdo you know how hard it is to actually capture a high quality footage of an object that is moving in high speed? You obviously are not an expert so why not just shut up about it?

[@Baleur]

On one hand, i'm incredibly happy that self-proclaimed (and rightfully so in most cases) "serious scientists" are taking an interest in this topic, finally. But on the other hand, in the very first 2 minutes of intro to this video, you added over ten "caveats" to every single mention of potential ET technology in near earth orbit. "albeit extremely improbable", "although enormously implausible", "despite seeming like pseudoscience". Not your exact words, but it speaks enormous volumes of just how careful and frankly afraid people STILL are of speaking about this, even in a hypothetical "what if" scenario, you're SO scared of what other people will think about you (in academia), that you're walking on egg shells with razor blades, terrified that a single sentence uttered will even hint at you thinking there's a minute percent of a percent chance that even a since long "dead" technology is even remotely possibly within our solar system. Please... Can we please grow up? Can we please stop with the endless careful caveats and biases established BEFORE you even look into the subject or even talk to the guest. You already decided how imperceptibly tiny the chance is that an ET civilization had ever sent even 1 probe to our solar system. As soon as you mentioned the idea of von neumann probes, you immediately, almost as if to apologize for daring to speculate, mentioned how improbable it is. We have no idea if it is improbable or rare at all! If the universe is teeming with technological civilizations, or has been for the past billion years, it is improbable that a 4 billion year old solar system would NOT have any relics or artifacts drifting around. The exact opposite of what you assumed in the intro. We have NO clue. Even a single Type 1 civilization in our galaxy, could FULLY explore EVERY star system (and colonize a lot of them) in 7 million years. With sub-FTL technology. This was an MIT study, just to see how many years it would take, if it was even feasible within the lifespan of a galaxy. And it is. 7 million years is nothing in the grand scheme even of our own solar system. This is because colonization and exploration is exponential, as your civilization grows, and industrial output grows. This is with ONE civilization existing, EVER, in our galaxy. If TWO ever existed in the past 4 billion years, or Ten? So how can you sit there and start the video with the same old dusty biased nonsense, claiming how "unlikely" it is, when we clearly DONT know the odds at all. You just biased the entire video before you even started. And here's the worst part. I dont think YOU believe it is that improbable. I dont think it's YOU speaking. I think you wrote that intro, to cater to what OTHER people would think of you.. And that's where we have to grow up. And the usual spiel about "we need hard evidence before we seriously think about this topic" is absolute un-scientific nonsense. We had ZERO hard evidence about the existance of Black Holes, or Neutrinos. We only had theories, just as the UFO field is filled with theories (becuase it's the best we can do so far). We DESIGNED and BUILT and PAID FOR enormously expensive experiments to TEST the hypothesis and theory, to try to FIND hard evidence. And nobody complained about that. Everybody applauds that. But as soon as it comes to even hinting at potential ET visitation (currently alive or dead relics), even hinting at something as benign and neutral and passive as artificial derelicts on Phobos or Mars, you all reject it immediately, without even building the theories with us of HOW it could be possible, then paying for and building the experiments to TEST it and LOOK FOR the hard evidence.. It's an incredibly sad double-standard. And you can say all you want that black holes and neutrinos had "soft evidence" in that our equations predicted them. But you know what our equations also predict? The nothing in the universe exists in unique solitude. If one neutron star exists, others must exist. If water exists on earth, it must exist elsewhere (and becomes more common the more we know). If one civilization exists, us, others must exist. So our astronomy, chemistry, biology (all the studies of life on earth itself), predict that OTHER Life must also exist. So why the discrepancy as soon as it comes to "UFO"s? We cant even theorize without being ridiculed, and without adding ten caveats before we even dare to speculate. I'm so tired of this.

[@simontillson482]

I do understand your frustration - when people go on about how incredibly unlikely it might be for alien artefacts etc to exist, I totally agree - we have no way to even estimate that. When it comes to comparing these studies to scientific research though, the situation is very different. We DID have good estimates, from theoretical mathematical models of what should exist (like properties of as-yet undiscovered fundamental particles for example) so we already knew what it would take to detect them, and at least roughly what to look for. So it was definitely worth it to spend the money to confirm or deny their existence. Unfortunately, with extraterrestrial stuff, as you said, we have no clue what to look for, and no theories that even suggest the likelihood of any particular thing we might go look for. The closest we’ve ever come is the Drake equation, and that is at best, a very broad and inaccurate theory - it has so many variables which are themselves guesses, and no way to pin down anything. With a dataset of zero confirmed things, we’re literally unable to even guess about ETs. For all these reasons, I totally understand why people constantly preface what they’re saying with ‘however unlikely it may be’ etc.

[@Betrue919]

I admire your intelligence in ur comment. Well said!

[@MrQ82]

Whole heartedly agree. The elepant is outgrowing the room at this point.

[@superbwater78]

Very much agree.

[@superbwater78]

​@@MrQ82Good way of putting it.

[@DemoDick1]

As a kid growing up in MT in the early 80’s I heard a playground story from a kid who claimed that his uncle was in the Air Force, stationed at the missile base “up near Great Falls”. Said that one night a UFO came out of the sky and shut off the nukes. I felt bad for the kid for believing his uncle, who was obviously teasing him. Imagine my shock thirty years later when I heard Robert Salas’ account of the exact same event, in detail, with documentation. That and the anger that Robert Jacobs displayed at Phillip Klass. That’s the reaction of man who saw something and knows it. Those two accounts finally sealed it for me. We have unknown unknowns in our operating space. Could be the worst thing ever, could be the best thing ever, could be a little of both. Our governments are lying to us.

[@armantee5059]

Thanks for sharing

[@animistchannel]

When governments lie, it is transparent, for governments are simple creatures driven by the twin propellers of Parkinson's Law and the Peter Principle. What colors the water, so to speak, is when the most cunning aspects of government are confused, maybe desparate, staring into the void of what they cannot know, and they fear it and so try to hide it, hoping to unlock it first before someone else does. They hunger after it as much as they wish to occlude it; and by the tension between, they reveal its unknown-ness by their own internal conflicts over time. This does not reveal the true nature of the thing, but it does tell you that they truly think it is real, and that is not from their own devices.

[@TheSulross]

and multiple such accounts have surfaced as well as similar things happening in the USSR It's interesting that two of the most famous cases of UFOs from the 1940s - Roswell and Kenith Arnold's sighting were both in the vicinity of US nuclear arsenal or nuclear materials making facilities. The Kenneth Arnold sighting was relatively close to the Hanford facility.

[@magicM526]

Awesome comment

[@rogerstephens8019]

That incident did occur ! I'II REFER YOU TO AN ACQUAINTANCE ......MRS JOAN BYRD OF MONTANA AUTHOR AND EXPERT ON THAT INCIDENT !!

[@markdarling3665]

The reason for secrecy is simple. Their technology/ power source, would put big oil out of business.

[@u.v.s.5583]

Good one! :)))))

[@grymes1955]

Exactly

[@blubard6105]

👽 And all of you use oil 🛢. 👽

[@chrisk1208]

I disaggree with the statements about HD smartphone camera. They suck. Just take a picture of the moon, or film a distant moving aircraft and zoom in. The quality sucks. A 90s era old school camera is better than a modern digital smartphone camera.

[@HerreNeas]

Just thinking this very thing today.agreed.

[@7minutesdead]

They won't acknowledge this. It's a common argument, yet they have smartphones themselves that don't record shit very well at all in the distance, in the sky, in the dark, that they can check themselves. Even phones with a physical 10x lens (like Galaxy S23 Ultra) still can't take great pictures in low light or very distant objects, and most people won't have those phones because they're expensive.

[@stevenkaeser8583]

I knew Colm during his tenure with NIDS. A great person to know.🤔

[@derp195]

Smartphone cameras are specifically designed for wide angle photos. If we had billions of devices with high end telephoto cameras, there would be a point to be made, but that's not the case.

[@dg5301]

Exactly! Try just getting a good video or photo of a jet at cruising altitude with a phone. There's a good video on the L.A. Flights youtube channel from a couple of days ago showing one of the metallic spheres passing near a refueling F-35. It shows how really high-end equipment barely captures these things at a distance.

[@mikeellery3336]

I'm only about half way through this interview, but something struck me. For something that the government says doesn't exist, they've certainly spent a lot of money, over a long period of time investigating them.

[@psystealth]

a shit load yes

[@Baleur]

And the pentagon / cia certainly spent a lot of effort blocking the recent "UFO Amendment" that specifically mentioned its new laws would ONLY affect, and i quote verbatum, "Technologies, artifacts and biologics from NHI's (non-human intelligences)" For something that is ridiculous and not real, they sure tried hard (and succeeded) in blocking that law.

[@Th3Chuzzl3r]

Lots of Pentagon money unaccounted for via failed audits

[@richardpotter6313]

Plus the medical and dental upkeep, schooling, room n board. The lawsuits when the things figured out how wronged they were. Great channel and video gang !

[@davedillon1372]

I'm wondering if that's where my hairbrush is!

[@js70371]

Merry Xmas to you and your family John, thank you for all the tireless work you put into both of your channels. Much appreciated!! ☮️❤️🎄🙏

[@EventHorizonShow]

Same to you!

[@DaydreamNative]

Fantastic interview, thank you for covering this John. It's clear from the quality of your questions that you've put real effort into researching and thinking about this subject, which is no small feat given the amount of dubious, contradictory and misleading information muddying the waters it's been left to stagnate in until recently.

[@badtrekee4348]

The Military themselves admitted they had alien bodies and a metelic disk that crashed. The next day they changed story so what does that tell you? And why was the military testing flying saucer shaped crafts if it wasnt real??? Not to mention how after that our military planes started looking like spaceships. I say this is all the proof you need

[@1mlannen]

Interviews? but nothing said that changes the known facts. Again hidden information that can never be devoluged makes all these videos useless untill all rules are broken and laws protecting the hidden information are ignored we will continue to keep doing Yada Yada. No truth released on the fact we are not alone and we have the crafts to prove it. MKL

[@GizzyDillespee]

Colm is one of the Skinwalker Ranch crew. People probably shouldn't believe everything they hear. Even when it's true, it's probably not the whole truth. I don't expect actual disclosure on KZbin, whether the truth is aliens, advanced weapons systems, or something even stranger. I agree with the original comment, that the questions are very thoughtful, and seem to get the best out of the interview subject, fwiw.

[@deandeann1541]

After due consideration to the considerable and contradictory devolugement regarding the cultural solubility of the resulting debasement, I tend to agree.@@1mlannen

[@stricknine6130]

Merry Christmas to you John, Ross and Eryn. Thank you for this interview as well as all the great content y'all have made through the year!

[@EventHorizonShow]

Merry Christmas Strick!

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Merry Christmas Strick!

[@Dan_Soundgar]

I ❤ Eryn, Merry Christmas yesterday everyone

[@brianvasquez3074]

Great interview. Very informative and straight forward. Learned so much. Thank you.

[@babykosh5415]

Cell phone camera are not designed to track fast moving objects miles away. But for photos of up close people in front of you.

[@ProblemChild-xk7ix]

Apparently their primary usage is for "selfies".

[@MrWolynski]

It is just extraterrestrial. People have such a hard time comprehending that there are 200+ billion star systems in our galaxy, so they go to, oh my, must be something super weird! It is really simple. People cannot comprehend big numbers.

[@0ptimal]

Every phone ive ever had have all been totally useless at taking pictures of anything in the distance. Last week there was the most incredible moon rise ive ever seen, i pulled over to take pics and all i got was an orange small blur.. was maddening.

[@editorrbr2107]

Well this was absolutely terrifying. Thanks, John. One of your best guests ever. And I’ve been with you since you were a wee channel years ago, well before EH launched. Really engaging hour. Flew by.

[@aclearlight]

A truly extraordinary interview, thank you!

[@mikejones-nd6ni]

I just stumbled across the channel, Love the contact. Definitely got my Sub.

[@EventHorizonShow]

Thanks for the sub!

[@MrJamesjustin]

That was excellent mate, as always.

[@alixandrevitch]

really gnarly visuals that I havent seen really in conjunction with these detailed interviews. just beautiful fullscreen on my second monitor

[@billcape9405]

I like the idea of a natural phenomenon that prevents us from observing, documenting, and recording these UAPs as they appear in whatever realm or medium is natural for them. It would explain much. Great interview John. Thanks.

[@barbararice6650]

Yeah they seem to be as good cloakers as sasquatchs are 😑

[@Cursalock]

Ah yes, a “natural phenomenon” that hides everything that we want to get information about and is itself undetectable. How convenient!

[@allenvandyke732]

I would rather see them

[@savestheday258]

Great interview and topic as always. Figured I'd share my own sighting of a tic tac type craft I had during the first days of pandemic lockdown in Washington state. I was outside enjoying a sunny, early spring day. I decided to lay outside and ended up looking at the skies pondering the things people do and I got to thinking about meditation, consciousness etc. Just as I was getting deep into my thoughts I saw a medium sized cylinder or tic tac just soaring thru the few clouds in the sky. It was at a low altitude, I'd guess maybe 2000ft. And it was flying from south to north. Looking up, this craft went from being just to the south of me when I spotted it, then it was quickly directly over me, and within 10 seconds was completely out of sight towards the northern horizon. I tried to get my phone quickly but I still wasn't fast enough. I also was trying to do this without taking my eyes off the thing. I was obviously frustrated I didn't get it on video but I'll never forget it. At the time there was almost no flights in the air. For weeks I remember how quite the skies were with very few flights taking place ie pandemic. But seeing something like that fly thru the sky with zero sound at all was such an odd experience. I hope in my lifetime I'll learn what this truly was, but something deep inside me feels this was something special and not built by us humans. ✌🏼 ♥

[@JanMcAllister]

Our govt has tic tacs too

[@Dave.Thatcher1]

It was Father Christmas test flying his new Sleigh.

[@JJ33438]

no they don't.@@JanMcAllister

[@SooSmokie]

@@JJ33438From what David grusch says, yes we do.

[@rhythman69uk]

Built by us. We had conquered zero gravity by 1954.

[@steelcityspeedshopj.r6942]

Truly my go to channel for interviews of high profile people like this . Keep on keeping on JMG, your Friend JRG 😉 ……. 2nd edit: this is literally the best foot forward in an interview of this magnitude ever. Seriously .

[@sojiadesina2081]

So happy you are exploring this topic more on your channel. We are not alone Michael.

[@mscir]

Surprised and pleased to find this content on this channel. Thank you both very much.

[@unheilbargut]

I just love this show. It always starts slowly and scientific, without major leaps in the suspension of disbelief and then we eventually are in a talk about a self replicating AI that gone mad because of cosmic rays and now endangers humanity, that it was supposed to greet. Great stuff!

[@Mattirondack]

Great episode!!!

[@Idontbelievethehype2]

Great episode!

[@racookster]

John Michael Godier is right when he says that certain knowledge of "Visitors" would be the mother of all national security issues. It's not necessary to go beyond that into conjecture about defective AIs and so forth. Just the existence of superior nonhuman intelligence would do it. Pentagon insiders aren't about to let information like that get out. It makes them look weak.

[@user-lb8bg6kj9m]

Maybe the non human entities are AI produced beings.

[@JonnoPlays]

A certain phrase comes to mind... How are you gentleman? We get signal. All your base are belong to us.

[@jimmyzhao2673]

🐊👽

[@rickfarwell4110]

The UFO's don't make a "sonic boom" yet are moving at hyper-sonic speeds! That makes me think it is some sort of holographic projection.

[@MotoMystery]

Happy holidays from Finland John and crew. And thanks for your videos.

[@EventHorizonShow]

Happy holidays!

[@raidermaxx2324]

Hey John, long time sub, from back in the day.. you are attracting quite a few "deluded" subscribers with you going so hard on this hypersonic drone tech cover up, by framing it as "alien" or "interdimensional" .. Maybe thats the whole point.. But i liked the community when it was mostly people who put facts before their feelings..

[@DemoDick1]

It’s pretty wild that the “nuts and bolts” aspect and the ET hypothesis is the *easiest* for most people to wrap their head around. Lots of folks worried about the religious community’s reaction to disclosure. I’m more concerned with scientific materialists coming to terms with the woo. This didn’t start in 1947. It’s possible that we’ve *never* been alone...

[@TheSulross]

the phenomena is equally disruptive to the materialist scientism dogma that has a strangle hold on science and these scientism koolaide drinkers go into conniption fits when their belief system is perturbed

[@jimmyzhao2673]

There's an old saying in Tennessee-I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee-that says, 'Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me-you can't get fooled again.'

[@johndonson1603]

?

[@alaskansummertime]

You just went nuklear

[@AndrewBlucher]

It's so old that half of it has been lost!

[@charlescook5542]

@@johndonson1603 bush w was trying to say the original saying in an interview and he either misremembered it or was too proud to call himself a fool

[@xjohnny1000]

A classic Dr. Who song!

[@Grandremone]

Great as usual!!!

[@deepop6045]

About 2 or 3 years ago I saw a flying V with 7 very large dull white lights on the bottom that would go off in succession fly directly over my house. It was not fast. Made no noise. Traveling towards Fort Gordan in Georgia USA. It wasn't a disk. It was giant V shaped ufo. It was amazing.

[@gilbertwoodward75]

If I were an Alien visiting this planet, I'd have already developed the habit of not giving another being any technical knowledge, especially if those beings are extremely violent.

[@raidermaxx2324]

so why not completely hide your craft from the earth people then??? why taunt them with showing your spaceship but then being like nyaaaa nyaa nyaaa

[@blubard6105]

​@@raidermaxx2324👽👽👽

[@raidermaxx2324]

@@blubard6105 what is this? what does this mean? Use your words

[@caseymead9399]

The comments for this one have been super spicy. Keep up the great work! 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

[@gb-tm9vg]

Your guest mentioned that a Lt Col.. with F18 experience that was involved with the 2004 Nimitz UAP incident was now investigating the issue ( around minute 32). I did not think the air force flew F18's. Perhaps he meant Navy Commander. It's important for the credibility of the story.

[@kabrink64]

air force also do not fly off of the Nimitz.

[@auxityne]

Not USAF, but USMC. 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing out of MCAS Miramar operates F/A-18Cs, even to this day. The Marines have Lieutenant Colonels like the Air Force.

[@brownwhale5518]

John, one of your best episodes I’ve listened to in recent memory! Thank you.

[@Piewalkermatt]

Excellent conversation, John and Colm.

[@thefloorhasgone]

level headed discussion which made it more mind blowing than normal...

[@2ezee2011]

The most frustrating thing about this topic is the fact that getting a good pic by laymen and even up to military trained (and equipment) still does not answer the question of if the UAP wants to be seen. To exhibit the technology they have to manipulate nuclear facilities, jam radar, invisible to radar or even the human eye then stealth to not be photographed clearly cannot be out of the scope of thinking. Basically we see them if the choose to be seen. Which brings it back around to the fact we are being manipulated. THAT SUCKS.

[@barbararice6650]

So the result is the same as if they aren't there, perhaps they aren't there then 😑

[@fuzzywzhe]

Oh, this is all just a bunch of BS. Notice we have "more UFO's" since CGI is getting better, but everybody has a freaking camera today, but NOBODY captures any images. It's just nonsense.

[@amodernalchemist432]

Sure, the cameras take HD quality photos, the problem is mainly with the zooming capabilities of cameras. Most people walk around with cellphone cams with lensing best suited for selfies and close pics *not* suitable for long distance shots. A quality camera with the proper lenses for long distance shots and we'll have quality photos. A photographer specializing in raptors and other large birds would have the right equipment for such a job.

[@godless-clump-of-cells]

That's not only far-fetched but suspiciously and specifically convenient.

[@Slickboot21]

You may, as well, try for a clear pic of a Sasquatch. I think the same cloaking technologies/abilities are in play.

[@mikeunleashed1]

That fact is, that even as short as 5 years ago, before the NYT article, talking about this was incredibly woo. It was on the same level as bigfoot. Well, congress certainly isn't having hearings about bigfoot, mermaids or ghosts. This is all a giant relief for the sceptical/logical minded of us who have also had an experience with this phenomena.

[@AndrewBlucher]

Oh, I thought the Congress investigation _was_ about bigfoot, mermaids and ghosts :-) Woo oo oo! Seriously, no I'm not a believer.

[@thevnbastid1027]

experience

[@PutPup]

Still thinking that Earth is merely a toilet stop for the ETs to let the kids take a leak on route to the next Galaxy for the family vacation. Earth just happened to be on the edge of a Galactic Highway.

[@GM_O]

​@@PutPupwe're a roadside attraction lol

[@IndridChannel]

Over 1000 pages were FOIA'd from AATIP/AWSAP, $13M was spent investigating skin walker ranch. In the docs, one of the senior people said this program was a waste of money. Kelleher sounds like he was a member of that part os AWSAP. We need to keep that in mind.

[@u.v.s.5583]

Content creation is never waste of money in the internet age!

[@antpearson9676]

What a refreshing change a heavily watched and subscribed channel who values its viewers by reading, liking, and get this Drum roll..... Replies Hussar Ant p uk teacher retired

[@kx4532]

Hear(here) comes a bunch of nothing.

[@fancyjoey9102]

Here*

[@nias2631]

Pretty awesome that your guest worked for Bigelow. Some ufo hunter interviewed a while back said that anytime he went out to a cow mutilation or sighting, the Bigelow people were there. That same guy aaid any materials found by the gov't at the site were sent to Bigelow.

[@dananorth895]

Human mutilations too?

[@ufosrus]

​@@dananorth895Never heard of those in the decades I've spent following the UFO subject. Only animals and specifically domestic animals.

[@ufosrus]

Bigelow's research has been motivated by his own UFO experience.

[@danbeard1168]

excellent discussion . subbed

[@millerjo4582]

Thank you, that was lovely.

[@gloriaharbin1131]

This was one of the most excellent interviews/discussions available with Dr. Kelleher. Thank you!

[@1mlannen]

wHAT PROOF WAS GIVEN WE ARE NOT ALONE. wHAT PROOF BY SHOWING US A SHIP HAVE WE GOTTEN. nothing We are not alone and all this Yada Yada does nothing to expose the second government and they will continue to make millions off the material they have found. MKL

[@TheRealVenom87]

I was so excited to hear about "inside a recovered ufo" until he started talking about skinwalker ranch thats a real bummer...

[@user-qg5wg9ut2o]

Thanks for the interesting video.

[@bobbymac1947]

I have always favored the idea of parallel development. We share this planet.

[@Kainlarsen]

These days, i am much older and more skeptical when it comes to UFOs, but I still cautiously hold out hope for truth in all of this.

[@MultiBikerboy1]

Ohhh there’s truth alright. I’ve known it for over 50 plus years. Had a saucer fly silently over my house in the U.K. at 1,000 feet one evening in the 70’s. Only saw it for 4 secs as it passed between a gap in the low cloud cover. Just as Bob Lazar described his ‘sport model’.

[@barbararice6650]

It's god of the gaps all the way down sex kitten, so you are going to die truthless on this issue I'm afraid 😕

[@nickfanzo]

@@barbararice6650well the more you sit on your phone and the less you go out and protest for the truth, the less will happen. We seem to have forgotten that.

[@barbararice6650]

@@nickfanzo There's nothing to see, no space creatures no ghosts and no free dinners 😐

[@bizonc]

@@barbararice6650damn. I feel I will die truthless on this and really wanted an answer if there is something real.

[@PleaseHold-il5eq]

I see people voicing opinions against this topic being covered on Event Horizon and so feel compelled to add that I really wish you continue what you're doing now. I think you approach the topic with a perfect balance of scepticism, curiosity, and open mindedness, which I appreciate a great deal. Thank you for your work.

[@dunnagan5]

Right if they wanted to avoid the topic or mock it, Neil DeGrasse Tyson’s Star Talk channel is a click away!

[@raidermaxx2324]

doesnt change the fact he's losing subscribers and viewers of his videos. I think he is playing with fire

[@StonedOdie]

@@raidermaxx2324 looks to me like he’s still got about the same exact amount of subs as the last time I listened to him which has been a few months cuz I binge a channel for a few months then let em get new content n binge on another and cycle. I think his mic sounding as rough as it does should be the main thing to be fixed lol.

[@raidermaxx2324]

@@StonedOdie yea because the people got switched out with nutters and grifters lol.. Also, people dont always "unsub" when they stop watching content from someone. But they dont engage or watch the videos. So that is not a reliable way to judge that. But thats cool masn, i guess you are someone who believes shit without evidence and what not? Are you a flat earther too?

[@yousefelrafey1253]

This is probably the best channel on KZbin.

[@hibyeization401]

fascinating episode, there's something going on that's for sure!

[@u.v.s.5583]

No, there is nothing going on, and even if there was something going on, it is none of your or my business. (jk ;) )

[@Apoplectic_Spock]

54:00 He was right on the money! The bill was declawed and detoothed before it was passed.

[@kenmolloy1645]

I’m happy you started covering this issue, in a scientific manner. 👍

[@bananaas2]

Thank you, it's about time. Give Anna a big hug for me.

[@drmabuse1050]

very interesting and important. thank you

[@RodgeMurphy]

What is the name of the song playing right at the end of the interview?

[@earthculture214]

If you find out let me know. It's a pretty calming instrumental.

[@EventHorizonShow]

Ascent by Stellardrone

[@RodgeMurphy]

Thank you so much. I hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas and new year.

[@earthculture214]

@@RodgeMurphy God bless. Let this coming new year be an amazing year for us all! And may we keep on discovering new music in 2024 hahah.

[@Ender_FPV]

A title like this would be BS on another channel but Event Horizon will actually have a thoughtful take.

[@Bow-to-the-absurd]

John does a great job with the questions. Trouble is being thoughtful and polite doesnt help with shysters.

[@missfriscowin3606]

May I suggest going outside and looking up. Once you see one, your prospective will change.

[@neon.kalash3115]

​@@missfriscowin3606Not always lmfao.

[@raidermaxx2324]

its still gettin kinda bs

[@Shotkangaroo]

This subject has just come so far since 2017. It’s accelerated this year and in particular the last few months. It’s now being discussed as factual by some serious people that have been in some interesting positions with all the opportunities that gives. If anyone didn’t catch the Ross Coulthard interview of Gary Nolan that was just released in the last few days, despite being recoded June 2022. I think it’s a must watch. Sadly Some Republicans in the House are blocking the Schumer amendment for the NDAA. I think the issue needs to be taken far more seriously by the scientific community and it was great to hear some scientists names that are getting involved. Finally John, massive thanks for covering the subject.

[@craigharris41]

Me and others got laughed at back in the mid 90's.

[@RIDIC1]

​@@craigharris41doesn't it feel good to be vindicated! 😆

[@ShannonSpurrell]

Brilliant upload. One of the best interviews I’ve heard in quite some time. Ty 🔥

[@billyvsbilly1]

I'm surprised you had him on your show. This guy is definitely problematic to say the least.

[@AndrewBlucher]

JMG casts a wide net :-)

[@neon.kalash3115]

Yeah he's fucking nuts

[@IndridChannel]

The guest was confused by the concept of the zoo hypothesis and a von neumann probe. Stunning.

[@u.v.s.5583]

@@IndridChannel Perhaps the guest IS a von Neumann probe in a zoo?

[@urghey990]

I have no idea why I hate the word "problematic" so much but I really really do. That and "meal" and "vehicle". I might have the tism.

[@biaginger]

Thank you for the excellent interview, John. With the number of UAP reports out there by trained personnel, I figured there was probably something out there worth investigating, but never believed in any government conspiracies. Now, I'm not so sure. With the gutting of the UAP Disclosure Act-- why fight so hard to remove things if there's nothing to hide? I want it all out in the open so that proper transparent scientific explanations can take place-- whatever "it" is.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Yeah, that was telling, wasn't it. If there had been nothing to it, there wouldn't have been opposition to it. Even more since it was a bipartisan amendment. It should have sailed through. Yet the two congressmen most linked to defense contractor donors, were the ones that fought it.

[@gloriaharbin1131]

Yes, when I started looking into this 4 years ago I was astounded. Never been a conspiracy minded person but I am now in regards to the UAP phenomenon.

[@TheRoadLessChosen]

@@gloriaharbin1131conspiracy theorists are truth seekers not nut jobs. Lots more going on than you or I can imagine. My aunt had a stint at Area 51. She had a few drinks one night and opened up to my mom and me about the things she saw. This was in the 90’s.

[@gloriaharbin1131]

Wowza! If you’re comfortable with sharing, what do you recall that she had to say?@@TheRoadLessChosen

[@williamgill5286]

​​​@@TheRoadLessChosen as someone who has followed such types of theories for well over a decade i have to be fair and say that there is most definitely a good amount of crazies in the conspiracy community as it attracts such behaviors due to its content nature which unfortnuately turns certain people away who dont understand that. Although if one has enough discernment and patience to see around some of that then they will realize that there is some truth within many of the theories

[@seebarry4068]

There was a time when meteors fell from the sky, we didn’t know it was possible, but we learned. People used to dance to encourage rain. Now we can make it rain. We are always learning new things that we once thought impossible. Just because we don’t understand where they come from, doesn’t mean they don’t come from there.

[@John-wm6fg]

Purple Rain ! One Eyed , One Horn , Flying Purple People Eater’s !!!

[@GregoryFache]

Great Vid , finally a voice of Reason.

[@brad4231]

Imagine the zoo hypothesis. What are the boundaries set to prevent the animals from escaping or getting out of control? What is the fundamental nature of the zoo? Research? Preservation? Entertainment? It’s actually quite scary when you start to examine the intent. And you know what’s even scarier? What if that intent is the consequence of how we govern this planet?

[@MrVibrating]

"Soul containers" is one thing that keeps coming up - going back at least as far as the orientation material Lazar describes reading at Area 51. But to add a further level of intrigue, the greys are evidently worker-golems, and for all their greater cerebral capacities, whatever knowledge and beliefs they're imprinted with are likely as efficiently built-for-purpose as their physical anatomy; even if they believe what they're telling us, it may be a ruse of their master. Anyone getting about with any degree of efficacy is using warp drives, appearing to us as glowing orbs - convincing an uncontacted civilisation you've had a guiding hand in their development must be one of the oldest tricks in the book, when in reality no continuity of identity or purpose is implied by the form of propulsion alone. If they want us to believe we're Frankenstein's monster, it's because they wanna be 'daddy' in this relationship.. But 'meat-sacks for souls' is what the golems seem to believe, anyhoos..

[@John-wm6fg]

God granted dominion of humans over all creatures great or small !

[@LaurenMiddleton28]

Its the worst kept secret to anyone who's studied it. I just ignore the naysayers. Anyone who read the Edgar Mitchell memo. Also Arthur Stancil who 100% was called in to the crash in Kingman AZ. Grusch testimony also was amazing.

[@raidermaxx2324]

ignoring "naysayers" just means you are delusional . so thats not good advice

[@markbeames7852]

Gary Nolan stated in a recent interview (online - KZbin) that the general population can expect a major disclosure announcement within the next year or two. Possibly sooner, as recently independently related by Lue Elizondo.

[@jimmyzhao2673]

Like those 'end of the world' cults, the date will come and go then they will keep saying 'within the next year or two' ad infinitum.

[@docwhiskey996]

If you're referring to his Coulthart interview that was recorded in June 2022 according to the disclaimer at the end. I think he was referring to Grusch.

[@markbeames7852]

nope. It was with the Aussie last month.@@docwhiskey996

[@jameshenry5525]

Even if the government does disclose information on UAP'S, how do we know they are telling the truth?

[@majorkramer]

Best guy ever! Thanks Johnny

[@cwtrain]

>"... Skinwalker Ranch... " Oh no. What kind of quack did he let on to this show? Come on. There _is_ a line between open-minded and accepting all evidence and conspiracy and supposition. This one stings. This stings bad. Even science fiction is still grounded in science.

[@anth10499]

Yeah my confidence in this channel is down pretty hard just from the skinwalker ranch mention alone

[@JoshuaWhitman]

Have you been to skinwalker ranch? If not let’s ask why the govt found it pertinent to research skinwalker ranch.

[@cwtrain]

@@JoshuaWhitman I have. I live like two hours from it. It's just a ranch with an old house and a pervasive- and completely made up- story that is perpetuated to keep those tourist dollars coming in. Sorry to ruin your fun.

[@EvelynRye]

This reason why Most are not taking seriously

[@kianlie9855]

16 minutes in and this guy still hasn't said anything. He is so vague. Keeps talking in general therms, but no specifics.

[@KnightspaceORG]

Like every single UFO fanatic

[@u.v.s.5583]

They are all around us, they are among us, they are very dangerous, and the government is working for them! He can't talk openly!

[@rarebreed1984]

It's nauseating. Like listening to David Grusch.

[@nickfanzo]

@@KnightspaceORGnice try

[@WakeUpYouFool]

Nothing new. Media is more like the national enquirer these days. I watch for the laugh because people actually think it’s real. Grow up 😂😂

[@reallyryan_]

I'm falling into the event horizon as I sleep.

[@bergatrollet9116]

Great questions.

[@LordSlag]

This guy comes off as making a LOT of assumptions that aren't justified. He's presuming that everything weird in his data are aliens...No. He had strong crackpot energy.

[@alb.1911]

After one hour I don’t even know what they saw…

[@ericgraham8150]

I’ve been a drone enthusiast and pilot for at least a decade now. Seeing the way that drones fly and even the way they can look at night in the sky it always struck me how much they look like unidentified objects in the sky. You can even make a drone fly in fast right angle changing patterns and if you didn’t know how far away or how big it was I could totally see Simon being fooled into thinking it was breaking the laws of physics. it always seem to me that local drones could be a real culprit for the UFO phenomenon phenomenon. especially when you take into consideration how much faster and more advanced military application drones can be. I do think that if there is something to the UAP phenomenon that an alien civilization will definitely send a drone and not a large craft with actual living life forms inside… thanks for the new thoughtful discussion on the topic.

[@EventHorizonShow]

Great points, Eric.

[@mike8631]

Had the UFO phenomenon began in 2010 when the earliest consumer drones became available then this hypothesis might have some merit. Alas, no.

[@ClannCholmain]

Had that sort of experience on Inch Beach here on the west coast of Ireland.

[@kosmosgalactic6221]

Cool story. Now apply it to the same anomalous phenomena with the same six observables described and studied by the military since the 1940s.

[@ericgraham8150]

Oh yeah, I mean your criticisms of my post are totally valid. The only thing I would say is that I think remote vehicle technology has been utilized for many years or decades before being available at affordable prices for consumers, so you are right I don’t mean to explain away the entire UFO phenomenon, history with my observation. There is obviously a long history for UFOs, and I certainly don’t have a good explanation for the entire thing. I was just thinking out loud here. :)

[@StevenBara]

Why, every time John asks a concrete question, does this guy revert to answer in the same pattern ignoring the question completely and going into a lengthy monologue how many people saw this and that, do this and that, and how much credibility those people have 🙄

[@simontillson482]

‘Cos all we have is anecdote at this point. What else could he say? That we have peer-reviewed, international consensus that any of this actually exists? Lol. We don’t have that. If we did, we would all know about it by now.

[@DVOID1]

Nice audio quality.

[@SailingGoonies]

With respect, if all this turns out to be true, any "security" threat from a life form that is 1000's of years more advanced than the human race is a silly argument to make. They are obviously neutral observers. Shouldn't the bigger question be how has the USG/Contractors been able to lie about the tech that could have helped the human race but chose to try and profit from & weaponize it?

[@daveharringbone8512]

I had a fleet of alien space crafts on kerbal space program. They even had an antigravity mod specifically for kerbal UFOs

[@EventHorizonShow]

Fun game.

[@daveharringbone8512]

Then I killed all the kerbals while listening to how does it feel cover by orgy @@EventHorizonShow

[@RIDIC1]

Kerbals are cool. Kerballin is evenkooler🤤🤤🤤🥴

[@raidermaxx2324]

too bad KSP 2 was such a let down

[@anthonyjorg2656]

During a cloudless day of summer, I have seen a stationary brighter than sun point in the sky near the sun about 5° from it by my perspective a few years ago. I looked at it for 15 minutes getting out of my car comming from work. By this time, I thought it was a supernova behind the sun or something like that. I am an amateur astronomer so I was amazed by what I was looking at. I was blocking the sun luminosity with my hand to not blind myself by looking so close to it at this bright spherical light for 15 minutes. Then, I was about to reach my pocket with my other hand, continuously looking at the (supernova), to reach my cellphone and to take a picture of this freshly discovered supernova 5° south west of the sun from my perspective. I touched my phone in my pocket and near immediately then I felt like someone was watching me 1000 times the normal feeling of being watched. It was all over me and that feeling came from my right side. I felt the direction of it's movement like when you direct a reading lamp of 40W on your hand kinda feeling. You feel the heat and the direction it is moving over your hand. If I resume, I was looking at what I supposed to be a supernova for 15 minutes, then touched my phone in my pocket to grab it and felt being watched for 1 or 2 seconds as I was watching the small point of light and then the light transformed like a 90° elbow shaped line of white light to vanish in the blue sky. The light line was strangely shaped like a checked mark. A 90° version of this : ✔️. I then was shooked with my cellphone in my hand not knowing what to do with it now that the spherical brighter then sun mini light was gone. I waited and searched all around me for an additional two or three minutes after that and decided after unfruitful searching of it to get inside my appartement. I went under the roof of the building where the door is to unlock it. Took my key and entered it in the locking mechanism when I recived a strong hit of liquid in my right ear hole. I touched this vegtable glycerin textured liquid in my wet right ear hole with my index and looked at my finger to see what got me in this bulls-eye ear drop. I looked over me to realise I was well under a roof. I looked to the sky realising it was cloudless and sunny as hell. Then, I looked back to my finger and I see this thing suck inside my skin in 5 seconds. I touch my ear and realise it is dry like a bone. I freaked out while entering in my home in panic. Whatever it is, it never hurted me in any way but, my right ear is still feeling the presence of the thing in it. I live with it since then and it changed absolutely nothing else to my life than knowing it happened. It is the first time I speak about it publicly.

[@Wuppie62]

And you never had a check up done by a professional MD?

[@minifalda6611]

Thanks for sharing

[@mattmccaughen7371]

Even with all your videos about some scary stuff. This video has litteraly made me nervous and scared ggs

[@user-qh4wj2md2u]

Amazing!

[@robertmills8640]

This episode was as disappointing as one with Avi Loeb 😟

[@AndrewBlucher]

Avi Loeb _is_ a disappointment!

[@thejbot]

How so?

[@AndrewBlucher]

@@thejbot IMO he doesn't do science. He publishes wishes.

[@ufosrus]

What were you expecting? This was just a conversation on a subject that is trending at the moment. Just take it with a grain of salt, if that's how you see it.

[@rarebreed1984]

This guy's nuts.

[@Brandtfer12]

Great video 🫶🏾

[@JoKo-fb3kj]

Thanks JMG ❤😊

[@CaliforniaBushman]

One of the best Colm Kelleher interviews ever. This one's going viral with a million views in total, I bet.

[@zebonautsmith1541]

Of course if there were no extraterrestrial craft anywhere; humans would still find a way to invent them.

[@joefresh3725]

that's the problem right? angels, leprechauns, sasquatches, elves...... we seem to need them on the deepest levels. But you know the old saying, just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't after you.

[@AndrewBlucher]

Maybe you two need them, but I don't, eh Precious. Shh, Precious, I'm talking to the Others. 😅

[@crawlingman7003]

It will be okay. Don’t be afraid…

[@tomflynn2912]

Yeah but they're there. Not `invented` , there..

[@robertdeblanc8808]

My name is Robert and I live in Las Vegas Nevada. In 2016 I was living in an area called Lake Las Vegas, and my property set up against a huge Golf Course which was my backyard. at about 1:00 in the morning I was on my balcony looking North where this huge open space where the golf course is and two amber Orange craft were approaching my location which was South, I won't go into my sighting but what I will tell you is, I had no problem with my perception. My sighting was up close and lasted for a few minutes. I'm 69 years old and I've seen everything that the sky has to offer, and I tell you what I saw was not from this world. The technology that I saw we won't have for 100 thousand years. My sighting lasted long enough for me to study what I was looking at because they had stopped and we're just hovering in the air, The two amber Orange Craft we're about 50 yards away and maybe 200 ft in the air. It's the most incredible thing I've ever seen in my life. And they were completely silent. The speed in which they left was like a bullet out of a gun. 11:01

[@fadetogreyman]

Government: lets investigate ufos so we can find out whats going on Also the government: Sh*t! Were finding evidence! Quick lets stop investigating 😂