What a Nightmare Job! Pulling the starter and injectors from my 79 series

Rocket Rod and Greg lift the Big Girl's Bonnet to remove the intercooler and dive deep into the engine bay in search of the starter motor, before encountering challenges in removing the injectors.
Would you attempt a job like this?
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[@mountainconstructions]

1HD-FTE looking nice and simple at this point

[@malcolmellis9654]

the motor engineered in Heaven and gifted to us mere mortals.. undeservedly 🤠

[@malfunction6993]

What a service you guys provide. Data that would normally never be available to the common slobs. Brilliant.

[@Metalman666xx]

That looks hard. I would probably change the glow plugs since you've gone to the effort of pulling everything apart.

[@touringwithtyrone4933]

Starter, injector test and clean and glow,plugs. Clean EGR body. Replace cooling system and vacuum hoses and clamps. Greg’s a champ

[@theexplorer6813]

Absolutely brilliant unscripted as it happens. Rocket Rod you’re a natural. Love it. Keep up the good work.

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

Thank you kindly

[@mmmmdeliciousbacon]

Today I learnt you can fit water cooled alternators, amazing! Good, informative video Rod, thank you.

[@FlatBrokeAdventures]

Pretty cool content thanks guys. One question I have is why didn't you clean the engine before starting work on it. I'm not a mechanic but I would have have thought that taking it outside and pressure washing and air blasting it down the day before would have been a great idea and help get dirt and dust out of the engine once you started pulling it apart.

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

Yes, fully agree we should have cleaned the engine first but we also wanted to show what we found floating around the engine after a huge Kimberly trip.

[@tinajensen3450]

Change them when your have the space to do it, they look bad, so change them would be the smart move. Love your channel, lots of greatings from denmark🇩🇰 ( just north of Germany🇩🇪).

[@jjlandcruiser9242]

Amazed how clean the intake was. And yes, I would have changed the starter as well. Can’t wait for the next episode.

[@benshaker25]

For the time it’s taken to pull it all apart, would definitely do the glow plugs and the injectors, it’s the same theory you’ve used for wanting to replace the starter motor. I know it adds significant expense now, but as you’ve now experienced first hand, if you have to do the labour all over again to change plugs and injectors it all adds up quickly. Just do it all now. Probably would pay to get the EGR cooler / system cleaned up too maybe in ultrasonic tank. That way you can enjoy it for at least another 180k probably more if you’re not doing all the 4wd 24/7 trips anymore.

[@1989cranston]

Rocket was the best part of that show unfortunately

[@JamieCon]

Awesome vid guys The intakes probably that clean because the cars been actually used and not just putted around. She’s a very clean engine with an intake like that roddy

[@NoOne56488]

It's clean due to the hard work, EGR only kicks in at very light engine loads and it's why you don't really take it too easy on diesel engines. Also depending on which state it's not illegal per say to delete or block the EGR, what is illegal is the emissions coming out of your exhaust.

[@karloz83]

I think I would pull the glow plugs and have a look at them multimeter test and then make a decision as you got it pulled down so far do what you can. Love the videos

[@davidscott1886]

Hi guys love the show just a little tip when you pull a bonnet off put 2 big folded up rags and place them between the rear corners of the bonnet and the scuttle panel so if there is a oops no damage done Did my apprenticeship (motor engineering) in an automatics shop wow how things have changed

[@geoffadams3516]

Definitely change the glow plugs. Same thought as the starter motor

[@blackjeep2005]

Thanks rocket loved you and Greg's project. Keep em coming guys. Ed in wva 🇺🇸

[@jc7654]

it's definitely not a fun job , back last year after the mouse plage, my mates workshop had a 200 series in with a bad fuel leak , what he discovered was that a mouse had built a nest in the valley of the motor and chewed a hole in the plastic fuel return line running around the valley under the intercooler. luckily it didn't catch fire as the owner only noticed it was leaking when he pulled up and seen the fuel pouring out under the car. he had nearly as much of the engine pulled apart as you just to discover the part was nill stock on back order , he found a fix and got it going but it was a big eye opener for me , good video rod 😁👍

[@JCYT]

Great vid guys. I have been following Rocket Rod's 79 since the 4wdaction days and boy do you guys send it. And i'm sure after all this you'd do it all over again! Just got my 79 recently hopefully i can put your auto in it one day 😀

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

As soon as she is finished she's going back out into the bush again lol

[@JCYT]

@@WholesaleAutomatics good for another 10 years of abuse 😅

[@mditomoatshe9046]

Rocket man. We miss you on 4wd-7

[@marksmith3631]

Rocket, Loved the episode. Not a 79 guy myself, but a TD42, but what I do appreciate is a few guys having a lash, and teaching/showing the kids coming through how it's done. Keep it up Yep, when you're that ball's deep, change the starter and glow plugs. Agree with the engineer's view - I'm an industrial elect, and being a breakdown guy, pick poor engineering, from a maintenance/breakdown perspective to pieces - nothing more frustrating

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

Glad you like what we do Mark, hopefully we can keep it up. Regards Rocket

[@brylyn23]

(8:40) I bet ya if Shauno's seen this since he has been working on sooty mk2, he would of loved this idea keeping all his bolts and nuts in order LOL ,top idea Rocket....

[@davorocket2825]

I don't think they make em big enough for the mess of bolts Shauno was dealing with, but then again that might have been a random tub of bolts he had hanging around that they just used for that scene...

[@shanevonharten3100]

When you're in that deep, replace everything

[@johnnorris-crossan]

Your a patient man and wow I had no idea how complex your engine is , good luck lol

[@johnpiegzik1947]

Nice work and yes change the glow plugs. Enjoying the content. Cheers John.

[@leonardpersin4255]

Love your vids mate, good to see you have a patrol part for reliability on one of the most important parts of the vehicle 👌🏻🍿

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

Thanks 👍

[@tpv59]

WOW !!! AWESOME. WHAT a job !!! (I cannot say any more)

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

Thanks for that Terry!

[@tpv59]

@@WholesaleAutomatics Pleasure!!!

[@STonezy6382]

It's a good fun job, usally takes around a day and a half to pull them apart and put them back together. That intake was very clean, considering how bad they can get.

[@cloudzon4fps676]

Love the content rocket your an awsome dude

[@iandibley8032]

Good video Rod I would definitely change the glow plugs & injectors new seals gaskets etc modern vehicles fitted with large engines are joy to work on ,probably would have pulled the engine & check things more thoroughly over especially seeing the flogging the 79 has had. Cheers. Ian

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

We did consider it but at 170,000Km we thought this was as far as we needed to go. Could also be famous last words lol

[@ChookChasersMX]

You’ve come this far, Replace the glow plugs!! But be careful as the tips can become quite brittle. If the tips break off then try and vacuum them out, but don’t go chasing a tip that may have already been burnt and gone out the exhaust, only if you feel or hear it break off. Also let them soak with some penetrating oil first to help get them out. Most likely they will come out fine. Replacing them will help with starting and keeping the engine from running rich initially.

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

Almost afraid to remove them now!

[@scottdoney6926]

Best comment ever that you personally said you don’t understand any of them DON’T remove or disable your EGR

[@agentcrm]

Gunk in the inlet is a mix of soot from the EGR and oil mist from the PCV. I believe EGR's mainly work at idle / dawdling around cities. So you've been pulling a heavy vehicle and doing lots of country km's. So the EGR's haven't been used very often, therefore less chance for gunk to build up. (looking at other comments, you have a catch can. So that will help stop the gunk building up in the first place.) Don't pull the top of the injectors, you HAVE to replace them then. We did that with a set on my dad's Disco 3 and had to replace them when we weren't planning on. Yes they need to go back in the same order. I hate EGR's, there's so many better and more efficient way of improving efficency. A properly tuned engine is cleaner than a factory tune with the egr. It's not the engineers you should blame, they hate the choices the designers make as well. I'm in the process of rebuilding a 3.2L Bt-50. Thankfully it's a much smaller motor and was easy enough to remove from the vehicle before hand.

[@rollyb5061]

well done Rod, when you guys assemble the motor just don't have any parts left over

[@anthonymare2681]

By taking the top off of that injector you've put the calibration completely out. As plenty of other people have already said each injector has a trim code printed on it and they are ECU coded to each cylinder. Do the starter, glow plugs, injectors, the rail pipes and nozzle seals and clean the injector ports in the head properly. I'd also do all the soft hoses that aren't easily accessable. Do it once, do it right. Common rail injectors do not last like the old timed injectors did, you are past the mileage to do them.

[@einfelder8262]

The injectors are coded to the cylinder they came from, so must be put back in order, or alternatively the ECU can be recoded. This is a standard procedure when replacing a diesel injector on common rail engines. I'm tipping, cough, cough, your inlet is clean because the ECU remap has made the EGR system work much better, cough, cough.

[@stuartkcalvin]

"The injectors are coded to the cylinder they came from". Not from OEM; after a dyno and tune - yes.

[@mattmidgley2899]

@@stuartkcalvin Incorrect, the compensation codes are there from the factory also so yes the ecu does know which injector is in which cylinder when new. Compensation codes have absolutely nothing to do with having them tuned, the tune changes nothing as far as compensation codes are concerned

[@joseywales3789]

@@mattmidgley2899, the other thing that I was thinking is that burning oil causes more carbon than burning diesel, the EGR would be choked up with carbon if the turbo was losing oil for a long period of time, oil is deceptive, a few drops makes it look like you've got a massive oil leak because the oil attracts dust and debris. Speaking about the injectors, have you seen the recent episode of Finnigans Garage? Interesting stuff about "straight out of the package" injectors flowing very different numbers!

[@malcolmellis9654]

I cldn't see on my phone but has the engine a catch can fitted ?

[@stuobrien3132]

Yes to replace glow plugs. Have seen a tip of one snap off from age on a prado and imbed itself into the piston. My dads 200 has 2 crook injectors so will be taking it apart very soon to do the same as u have. New starter, injectors, glow plugs and a intake clean. Exspect it to be bad, surprisingly how clean yours was. Maybe from the oil wash.......

[@nedyahyakcam]

my uncle used to say, if it doesnt move dont force it, just hit it with a bigger hammer. i smashed a few thumbs and then decided to rather look properly before smashing

[@richardwilliams5285]

Just done injectors in my 79 after number 5 stuck open and 3 was blocked replaced all 8, my intake was absolutely caked full of soot, and injector washer got stuck in the head was a fun job to get them out🤦‍♂️ goodluck for the re assembly it’s pretty straightforward, also injectors have to be coded if you change them around in the pots, and don’t forget little vacuum line on MAP sensor 😉 very under powered

[@carmenly390]

Solid effort boys

[@haydenvanderhoeven3953]

You will find that if you have a remap they turn the egr off so it never or very rearly opens. Also if it is remapped with more boost the extra air flow through the intake helps to keep what ever soot is in the intake from building up

[@Davidsmith-mc2no]

New injectors and pipes

[@malcolmlewis3239]

Replace the glow plugs, injectors and the fuel pipes to the injectors. Ensure the seats where the injectors sit in the head are spotlessly clean.

[@conservativesniperhunter7439]

Those Japanese engineers had been drinking too much Saki when they designed the 79 engine lol 😂.

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

Tell me about it

[@CRAY8790]

Definitely change the glow plugs there cheap compared to labour, Injectors should not be dismantled as they are calibrated . There a ultra high pressure rail which runs around about the 18000psi or more could be upto to 28000psi you would need to consult an injection specialist When they drip , or squirt a stream rather then atomising they cause hot spots on your pistons and cylinder walls and head leaving pitting hope this helps.

[@JiinxYT]

That is the cleanest 1vd intake I’ve seen and I’ve done a few of those jobs

[@DaSpedzaMotoVlogs]

180k Change the glow plugs to Rod. And don’t mix up those injectors if you’re putting them back in. As they’re coded for each cylinder injector seal and washers along with re seating tool dont go a stray either. Any carbon etc on that seating surface can cause major issues. I did plenty of them when i was a mechanic i also did the intake clean etc on my 200 not to bad just labor intensive.

[@phs84]

Surly those injectors are not going back in

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

No they are not. Installing new units.

[@scottdoney6926]

The EGR is a very important part of that motors reliability you can and will crack pistons in that motor with out the EGR so do your research on when your EGR operates and you will never do an EGR delete again

[@jackturtle131]

Take all the parts to a mate what has a automatic parts washer everything will come out of there like new. ( that is if you don't own one ) Great clip guys really enjoyed it

[@BarefootPhilanthropist]

Yes, if you’re that far down do the glow plugs and get the injectors tested.,I’d do the starter for piece of mind and probably the water pump too.

[@heyshorrtty7001]

Great idea with changing the starter given its an auto and no opportunity to roll start if needed

[@Paul-fi2kf]

One of my fav channel

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

Thanks so much Paul, that means a lot to us. Regards Rocket

[@madaboutmilitaria3630]

Wow, what a horrible motor to work on. Good job blokes.

[@andrewsmart2949]

yeah they were $9000 for a set of injectors in 2008 LOL,and it only ever took the slighest amount of water or wrong fill with petrol to completely destroy them,as many camper hire services found out

[@MrPropanePete]

Absolutely change the glow plugs now everything is in bits. Preventative maintenance, same train of thought as with the starter motor.

[@lukeellem3064]

Looking at your intake I would say your EGR was turned off when it was tuned. As for the EGR pipes coming from the heads a Hilux 1KD-FTV EGR blank plate fits these perfectly (for off road use of course). Don’t bother with reconditioned injectors new ones are 1000x more reliable. A genuine VRS kit from Toyota includes all the intake and EGR gaskets for reassembly.

[@Repair-rookie]

Rod Better do a leak test, that should be setting a few alarm bells off missing coolant. Yes change the glow plugs.

[@TheAthavanleon]

Mate Love your videos... Please make more videos... Keep them comming -

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

Thanks, will do Leon, Regards Rocket

[@andrewsmart2949]

yeah injectors supposed to stay in order and "coded" to that particular cyl,1kd motor the same

[@unclebob5686]

This is when you need a good mechanic such as myself :)

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

Good, when do you want to start Bob, Regards Rocket

[@unclebob5686]

@@WholesaleAutomatics Whenever you want? I'd have to move from Adelaide (no loss).

[@darrenwilliamsweeney865]

Make sure you put brand new starter in while you got manafold when you put back together

[@keithoztournut7042]

If I was you mate and the way you push that motor changing the glow plugs when I have a chance would definitely be the go and those injectors look crap new one's for shore. Happy Travels 😁👍

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

Thanks for the tip

[@crawfordkirkwood5353]

Yes I would change the glow plugs if you're going that far

[@nzmarkb8713]

You want to replace all those hard to reach hoses in there while your at it 😉

[@93jummy]

Unsure if you tuned the engine to not use egr. But maybe the automatic box tricks the ECU calculated torque values Egr command is usually calculated load or torque. The auto would change the values the ecu is looking for in standard form. I find heaps of weight and flog them hard and the egr won't be commanded by the ecu

[@jbattam]

My tip would have been give it a good wash down before you start. Remember any contamination, one spec of dirt inside the fuel system can stuff an injector. But i'll sure you'll clean it all up. If she's done 180K, and since you pulled the injectors apart, just stick in new injectors, seals, and fuel pipes in. Don't re-use the old ones. Sucks you'll have to take the brake booster off...

[@darrelgrime9992]

Yes change what you can .

[@michaelcarydakis790]

yes change glow plugs

[@kevincashmore4655]

I would change the glow plugs as you are already down that far

[@moshesheckel7369]

You should have released the driver side engine mount and jacked up the side of the engine to clear the booster.

[@jordon7709]

intake looks mint

[@tony15869]

Whilst you have the access to them I definitely would change them out just for peace of mind and that's then one less thing to worry about

[@raelock8145]

Loving the content and getting some idea on how to pull apart a vdj inlet

[@coreyhammond310]

As a Toyota mechanic, I've never replaced a glow plug in a 1vd. But have Seen a few break off when trying to remove them. Something to think about

[@lukegonano3956]

To get injector near the master out Jack the rear of the motor up it’s still tight but should be enough

[@TheHoldenlover82]

maybe put new glow plugs in and keep the old ones as spares for when you have to do a on track repair

[@mikewatt1376]

stay with your holdens mate

[@googleuser2170]

This is why I installed a pull-start from a Briggs & Stratton 12 hp lawn tractor on my 79. It's a good back-up and really builds the arm muscles.

[@rjl110919581]

thank you great video think repair parts that doing lots of wearing if are hard to get after putting back together as best times when that find down point replace start motor should all other parts. done few times on other engines like landrover engine and Toyota engine in the rebuild and fix them at home as did two of best mate few times. know have to try fix landrover TDI 300 engine like blow caster and repairs to wires two place

[@aussiesmoko]

It's a catch 22 situation. If you don't replace them 3 months time you maybe back at square one and pulling the whole damn thing apart. If you do replace them well what else do you replace. But I quess it's like an old cocky told me once . You can fix anything with a claw hammer, a sledgehammer a cold chisel and a heap of fencing wire

[@bjgtrev1970]

That was one big job

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

Two more episodes to come lol

[@CRAY8790]

Make sure you write down on a note book were those injectors come from,. There carbon coded to the ECU. Other wise your going to need to re code them. The other thing is make sure the injector lines do not twist whilst your undoing them other wise they can fracture and burst. Also you should wash all the dust of the area and blow it down well as injectors do not like dust in them.

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

We are installing all new Injectors, return lines and feed pipes Chris. We are going to have to recode in any case.

[@timdennis2193]

Change everything you can think of... if it were mine I'd be doing starter. Injectors, glow plugs.. don't want to be pulling everything apart again in the near future

[@brylyn23]

(31:25) Haha i went to Lilydale Technical school between 1977 and 1981 :)

[@Mayo-dj6ew]

thats the 1st time i ever heard of a watercooled alternator. interesting

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

Very common for the 79 series and one of the best upgrades I have ever done, besides the auto of course lol

[@kevinkennedy1843]

I would change the glow plugs just in case one or two are not working right

[@jonlamkin6108]

When I am working on a engine and am that far into it replace anything that could go wrong or it will!

[@Griddens]

injectors need to be put back in the same order. if not you will need to get the codes of the injectors and reprogram them to the ecu each injector will have a code printed on the plug on the top. each code will be program to each injector location by that code. also don't forget to clean the sealer area where the injectors seats in the head.

[@jameswilkins7757]

yes done the same on a land cruser 100 serice amizion

[@BarefootPhilanthropist]

If the seal in the turbo core went on the exhaust side you’re not likely to find heaps on the intake side and vice versa. What you’ll find will be normal crankcase buildup and blowby. From memory you exhaust was full of oil, but I can’t remember what the compressor side was like.

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

Was on both sides but I do feel that is was a pooling in the lower rubber pipe from the turbo.

[@BarefootPhilanthropist]

@@WholesaleAutomatics makes sense. Either way, get it all cleaned up and back on the road mate! :)

[@coreypongratz7389]

Definitely do glow plugs while ya there and as for the intake it's due to you driving a diesel how it should be... It has also done a lot of longer travel rather than short city shit and let's be honest your not afraid to make it hit governor which helps a lot also catch can would've saved it a lot as well

[@matt32_exe57]

While everything is apart, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to just change the glow plugs anyway as peace of mind, like the starter motor.

[@eppalockengineering8332]

Talk to Cornell diesel about the injectors and fuel pump we had one come into work last year with 150L of petrol in the tank. We did the entire job in 18 hrs I think including me driving down from heathcote

[@daveg1640]

If you drive your 79 properly it should be clean on the inside. Good job Great video

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

Thanks 👍

[@Nashic12]

Just pull the glow plugs and check resistance of them, if they're all right chuck them back in.

[@darthvader8433]

Imagine doing this in the tropics, with the heat and humidity, on the side of the road to change a starter motor! Anything you drop disappears. Yeah, a new genuine starter is cheap. Aren't the injectors and rail tubes a wear item? Worth looking at while you are there.

[@camo6344]

Bigger the problem bigger the hammer

[@coreydark8795]

I'd put in new glow plugs, starter, injectors etc. Do it once do it right spend the $$ now that way you know it's done and shouldn't have any issues for another 200K. It's like the saying with manual cars. New clutch may as well do the rear main seal and water pump... I'd even look at a new rapid power fully sealed alternator why because they now run at 200amps vs the 150-170 ish old the older ones.

[@grumpy-g5s]

if it was me the injectors and glow plugs and starter motor would be changed i would test the new starter several times before install and i would investigate new egr unit too and probably replace that as well , there is too much work involved to get to all of those components out , glow plugs and injectors i would source non genuine through a Denso outlet but the rest would be genuine

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

Thanks for the advice Paul. We will do all three exactly as you mentioned. Regards Rocket

[@adlanmira7]

Relocate the intercooler to front of radiator and redo the piping. Relocate the turbo also....

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

PWR have brilliant top mount intercooler with twin thermo fans so I need to relocate to get better performance.

[@jasonsteele6462]

Change the glow plugs too while you can get to them

[@petergair4726]

You say that you’d be mad not to change the starter motor while you’re there and I agree but it seems strange that you would say, you’re going to keep the one that you’re pulling out, just in case you need it. That statement is counter intuitive, surely because if you did that job again (if you had starter motor problems) surely you wouldn’t be putting your old one back in?

[@WholesaleAutomatics]

About 2016 onwards is where we see the problems.