What Ammo Should I Carry In My EDC Glock

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@AllAboutSurvival
@AllAboutSurvival 4 ай бұрын
I completely agree that hollow-point ammo is the way to go for EDC.
@CarrieWard-ny1zl
@CarrieWard-ny1zl 4 ай бұрын
The tumble on impact blows the hollow point away…
@DP-jaja
@DP-jaja 4 ай бұрын
Duh 😂
@no_handle_required
@no_handle_required 4 ай бұрын
Decades of watching careful explanations and it hasn't gotten old.
@fisherplasticsurgery
@fisherplasticsurgery 4 ай бұрын
C is the speed of light. Isn’t it Kinetic Energy= 1/2 Mass x VELOCITY squared ???
@williamneal7210
@williamneal7210 4 ай бұрын
E=mC2 if the total energy content of an atom
@theonlytalkinggoat
@theonlytalkinggoat 4 ай бұрын
I was wondering the same thing, since c is the speed of light and the equation is the amount of energy it takes to reach the speed of light.
@chairmanbrando
@chairmanbrando 4 ай бұрын
He was either looking for that or F = ma. E = mc² is something else entirely.
@fraliexb
@fraliexb 4 ай бұрын
K=½m•V² is the equation he actually needs
@American54
@American54 15 күн бұрын
He’s not giving a math class so why do you make a big deal out of it🤯
@ThePatriotParadox
@ThePatriotParadox 4 ай бұрын
Lenny out in Tennessee doing it.... Good bless America, i would stand beside Lenny any day!
@rodcoulter997
@rodcoulter997 4 ай бұрын
Think SPEER GoldDot 147gr or 124 gr. OR FEDERAL HST 147 or124 gr. Hornandy too. Basically, all of these are top notch.
@ShawnShipstad
@ShawnShipstad 4 ай бұрын
I think Hornady is safe. The last thing any of us want is over penetration. What if there is a :\"Flyer". That could change the whole "Self Defense" into a nightmare, you can not escape.
@Wmikewtonytone
@Wmikewtonytone 4 ай бұрын
@@ShawnShipstad HST is best
@professored7169
@professored7169 Ай бұрын
​​@@ShawnShipstad I heard police getting the Hornady and it acted like ball ammo and they dropped it right after, idk what department but I have steered clear of it since I heard that
@ezekielmajor5511
@ezekielmajor5511 4 ай бұрын
I carry speer gold dot 124 grain for years for SD.
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile 4 ай бұрын
I like HST 124gr +P or the Golden Saber bonded +P. In .45acp, I use HST 230gr +P. Sometimes Underwood Ammo brand 185gr +P JHP.
@MrTravis0306
@MrTravis0306 16 күн бұрын
I enjoyed touring the Nashville Glockstore and meeting the crew this past week! The set is amazing. You guys and gals are awesome!!!
@johnconway8492
@johnconway8492 4 ай бұрын
I have just recently become a Glock owner after many years of not having interest in them. The Glock 43X put the hook in me. And now the 19X has found a spot in my gun safe. Along the trail of Glock research I stumbled upon Lenny and the Glock store. I just want to say that I enjoy his videos very much since he has such a nice pleasant way of explaining things. 👍
@whiteyfisk9769
@whiteyfisk9769 4 ай бұрын
For edc that you will CC alot, you cant beat the 43x, it conceals so well. I carry it every single day everywhere i go. The G19 would be a very close second
@Ჽum
@Ჽum 4 ай бұрын
If you're running a smaller carry pistol like a compact or subcompact that has a short barrel, you really need to run +P ammo if you're using hollow points. There's been a lot of debate around whether calling them added pressure is actually warranted, since manufacturers rarely share how much extra pressure your rounds will actually be expending when fired, but it's been pretty consistently shown that on average +P expanding munitions perform significantly better in shorter barrels than standard non +P rounds do. You really need the added pressure in order for the bullets to expand correctly upon impact when fired from a short barrel; without it, you run the risk that the bullet's mass-to-velo ratio won't be adequate enough to result in proper expansion. Hornady Critical Duty +P 135g is what I use in my EDC (G43X), just as it's the choice of the FBI and countless police departments across the nation. Ballistically, it's one of the best rounds on the market. The red filling material used isn't actually there to assist expansion necessarily, as was said in the video. It's actually there to prevent early expansion, which is one of the biggest issues with hollow points when someone is wearing heavy clothes. This is especially bad in the winter of course, when people are wearing thick layers. Hollow point rounds without fillers expand too early and lose a ton of their energy as a result, whereas with the filler (what Hornady calls Flexitip, though other brands surely have their own proprietary materials) the bullet is able to rip through any initial layers without losing as significant of a percentage of it's energy before expanding.
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile 4 ай бұрын
I agree that some guns, sizes can affect ballistics but in general you are looking at a ccw/defense range of 3ft to 21ft. Also the pistol or revolver round will need to punch thru around 16-22". In 2024 many people are larger, thicker than the 1960s 1970s 1980s.
@BryceJordanProductions
@BryceJordanProductions 4 ай бұрын
Learned something new today thank you sir
@slb_clip
@slb_clip 4 ай бұрын
Cool summary. I use Federal HST 124 +P in my G43x and have been wondering if that’s the right ammo. I also thought +P might be for comps.
@3.eyes.open.
@3.eyes.open. 4 ай бұрын
This is exactly why you should do your own testing with your ammo and the gun you carry it in to defend yourself and loved ones... It's not going to break the bank to invest in a high tech fleece bullet stop and some pork ribs followed by pork steak pectoral and oranges to stimulate lunge tissue 😉
@angrysheepdog9744
@angrysheepdog9744 4 ай бұрын
Agreed less than 4" barrel switch to +p 115gr to compensate
@John_D67
@John_D67 4 ай бұрын
The Hornady and Federal are very popular. I personally carry 124 gr. +P Gold Dot. Performs very well. 👍🏻
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile 4 ай бұрын
You can't go wrong with HST 124gr +P or other LE type brands; Golden Saber, Speer Gold Dot, Critical Duty. Ammunition that performs well in FBI protocol tests.
@ricksilver7398
@ricksilver7398 4 ай бұрын
Love the reviews, testing, and results to the comparison that I know I could not afford to help me with a decision to a good choice ammo, but regardless, I would not want to be hit by any of them 😂
@PCA922PorscheSP1
@PCA922PorscheSP1 4 ай бұрын
Kinetic Energy = 1/2 Mass times Velocity squared. I'm pretty sure Einsteins theory of relativity (E=MC^2) does not relate to bullet Energy calculations. A bullet at the speed of light (C) would not be a bullet very long....
@jaywindley
@jaywindley 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, when mass is converted into pure energy (like the mass is gone, and in its place energy, like in an atomic reaction) the amount of energy released as a result of the destruction of mass is mc^2. KE is the key in ballistics.
@reymundonour9956
@reymundonour9956 4 ай бұрын
Lenny, I'm a fairly recent watcher of your videos since I purchased my first Glock a couple years ago, and I must say I have learned an awful lot. I did watch this latest video and I'm "somewhat" impressed with the Pilgrim ammo, but I believed your bullet hit the table first before it went into the gel. Notice the upward curve as if ricocheting off the table. It would be helpful if you did another test/video with to truly demonstrate its impact.
@yankeeed15pr
@yankeeed15pr 4 ай бұрын
I mostly always carry Federal Premium 45 Auto 230 HST JHP or lighter, however if I'll be using my g21 mags on my g30, I'll be carrying Liberty Ammunition Civil Defense 45 acp + p with a 78 grain 1900 fps bullet!!
@MrTRS4444
@MrTRS4444 4 ай бұрын
Civil Liberty is quality. I usually carry G2 Gold dot 147grain LE. Enjoyed all of this. Pilgrim and Civil and very similar.
@BryanButler-q3q
@BryanButler-q3q 4 ай бұрын
I hate to be critical, but E=MV^2. E=MC^2 is Einstein's theory relating to nuclear energy where C^2 is the speed of light squared. For calculating the energy of a bullet, V^2 is the velocity, usually in feet per second.
@discombubulate2256
@discombubulate2256 4 ай бұрын
you're right, this is more like a force = mass x velocity thing.
@Blafasel_Blafasel
@Blafasel_Blafasel 4 ай бұрын
feed per seconds to calculate energy is barbaric 🤣 E (Kin) = kg (m/s)² = kJ
@robroberts4730
@robroberts4730 3 ай бұрын
That's some bad-ass 9mm going the speed of light! ;) Love the videos Lenny!
@stephenelder4599
@stephenelder4599 4 ай бұрын
I carry 14 x .40 Smith and Wesson Nosler 185gr JHP in a Gen 3 Glock 23.
@GT500Shlby
@GT500Shlby 4 ай бұрын
Same-ish, Gen 3 Glock 23 .40 but with Speer G2 180gr.
@edjacques3118
@edjacques3118 4 ай бұрын
I must preface with, a great video. I carry aG35 on my farm for coyotes and wild dogs, ect..I enjoy the ballistics of Hornady critical defense ,,, BUT the one thing I experienced is a failure to feed. After a month or so carrying in a standard mag the tip will get “gummy” and not feed. That once got me in a pickle with a threat. I had to change. Looking at the Pilgrim. Great video, Thanks!
@francostacy7675
@francostacy7675 17 күн бұрын
Interesting I never heard of that or thought about that. Were there other factors involves such as heat or cold or solvent or anything? …. Also, what did you finally choose?
@edwardroland5301
@edwardroland5301 4 ай бұрын
My Glock 43x digest the Speer Gold Dot JHP 115 grain. That what I carry in my concealed weapon. Shot placement is the key.
@gravy229
@gravy229 4 ай бұрын
I like the extra penetration from 125+ grain bullets. Lots of carjackings that might require penetrating barriers. So I run +p 125 grain (GD or Federal HST). I run a Glock Gen5 G26. I run it in a Vedder kydex IWB, run on a Nexbelt. After all that running, I may have a heart attack. Shout out to the operators and all their "running". Keep on Keepin on, Lenny.
@Valeron5
@Valeron5 4 ай бұрын
Federal HST 124gr. 9mm JHP. Or 147gr.
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile 4 ай бұрын
I buy & carry +P loads in 9mm or .45acp when possible. .40 or .357sig, 10mm are good too but in 2024, not common.
@josephgonzales4802
@josephgonzales4802 4 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you. That is what I carry.👍
@ValidSurvival
@ValidSurvival 4 ай бұрын
Choosing the right hollow-point for your EDC Glock is crucial. It's not just about stopping power but also reliability and penetration.
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile 4 ай бұрын
Correct- this is why the NIJ, FBI developed protocol tests. Feeding, cycle, wt retaining, depth. 16-18" after a common barrier: auto glass, plywood, fabric, etc. In 2024, many major brands do fairly well. Some pistol rounds are nickel plated, better made.
@spearfishingpastor
@spearfishingpastor 2 ай бұрын
Which one do you recommend?
@JosephRizzo-t2v
@JosephRizzo-t2v 4 ай бұрын
When considering self defense and not ballistic gel or water jugs, one must factor clothing penetration before it hits tissue. I do not think the “Pilgrim " would perform good, especially if a perpetrator is wearing fairly heavy clothing. Federal has "Punch" and "HST". HST is designed to penetrate clothing before expanding in tissue. Any thoughts?
@cjcaufield007
@cjcaufield007 4 ай бұрын
Great point.
@kevinrtres
@kevinrtres 4 ай бұрын
The pilgrim would still penetrate enough and even if it just hits below the skin the energy dissipation will impart enough of a shock to let the receiver know that s/he's been hit by a sledge hammer. That's my totally unscientific guess.
@bobmotherfuckinsmith3089
@bobmotherfuckinsmith3089 4 ай бұрын
Clothing makes negligible difference. If we shot one time that'd be something to consider but when a defensive incident occurs the average shot rounds of 5.5, so 3 on the low end to 8 on the higher side spread across 60 percent of 100 percent for those accounted. If people carry .22 and 380 for defensive ammo then I'm sure any hollow point 9mm will do just fine. Remember Velocity is squared. External deviated hollow points like the APX interceptor rounds at 65grn are going 1600 fps and blow water melon apart.
@francostacy7675
@francostacy7675 17 күн бұрын
Another consideration for me is the bullets potential to cause collateral damage. How likely is it to pass through a wall or how likely is it to pass through a persons body and then critically injure somebody else. If I was protecting myself, but in doing so I killed an innocent person, that would be hard for me to live with. so if you were carrying in a crowded area or you live in a neighborhood with close neighbors in an apartment, that would also impact my choice
@jacbojenkins
@jacbojenkins 2 ай бұрын
this video alone has made me reconsider EDCing ball ammo.
@francostacy7675
@francostacy7675 17 күн бұрын
The thing that concerns me, the most about ball is not being able to critically injured my target, my main concern is injuring something or someone that is not my target because it passed all the way through my target or through Wall
@jacbojenkins
@jacbojenkins 17 күн бұрын
@@francostacy7675 precisely, I would hate to shoot my target and then unintentionally harm or destroy something behind it, so now I carry MHP 85 grain 👍
@frankieterrell897
@frankieterrell897 4 ай бұрын
Pilgrim reminds me of the Liberty Civil Defense ammo. Not a bad round but I prefer the Hornady Critical Duty or the HST for my carry ammo.
@PeterRoos
@PeterRoos 4 ай бұрын
I carry Hornady Critical Duty 135 grain in all my EDC Glocks. Glock 17, 19, and 26.If it is good enough for the FBI, it is good enough for me.
@rickw5024
@rickw5024 4 ай бұрын
I'd hope and pray you want better than the alphabet shit gang
@erice4611
@erice4611 4 ай бұрын
The duty will not open up in a G26 because barrel is too short
@briancunningham5011
@briancunningham5011 4 ай бұрын
"Carry what you train with, Train with what you carry" wise words compliments of flannel daddy aka garand thumb
@cjleon1104
@cjleon1104 4 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this. Definitely need to do more videos outside the sales studio.
@jaywindley
@jaywindley 4 ай бұрын
Lenny inspires confidence when talking about firearms, but not when talking about physics, LOL.
@francostacy7675
@francostacy7675 17 күн бұрын
I think his point was that the speed and the weight and the physical size does matter
@Neffie42
@Neffie42 4 ай бұрын
-Glock 17/19 Critical duty during the winter and if you still want to carry it in the summer go for it -Glock 17 underwood hard cast for the woods -Glock 43x critical defense, always This is my go to for carrying self defense. -Target shooting cci blazer 115 for 43x and 124 for anything larger.
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile 4 ай бұрын
I use Federal HST rounds, Winchester Defense bonded SXT +P, Golden Saber +P, bonded. Winchester has the newer Ranger One line but it's rarely on the open market.
@francostacy7675
@francostacy7675 17 күн бұрын
Why?
@javoratree3861
@javoratree3861 4 ай бұрын
I would love to see a comparison of all of those rounds plus a few more in ballistics gel. Crazy enough, the most accurate box of hollow point rounds I ever came across was a really old box of Colt hollow points. Maybe an accuracy test a different yardage would be useful as well.
@francostacy7675
@francostacy7675 17 күн бұрын
I would love to see a comparison of the ammo from a 3 inch barrel gun compared to a full size gun and then maybe even a pistol caliber carbine with a 16 inch barrel
@BobbySMiles
@BobbySMiles 4 ай бұрын
You should have included Sig Sauer V crown , Federal HST and underwood extreme penetrator external hollow points in the gel test .
@travistucker4067
@travistucker4067 4 ай бұрын
I concur. I run V Crown in my 9mm
@angrysheepdog9744
@angrysheepdog9744 4 ай бұрын
The red polymer plug in the hornady is to prevent clogging and makes it barrier blind
@Werewolf_Six
@Werewolf_Six 4 ай бұрын
I'm still testing various munitions for my Glock 41. Feeding, extraction, terminal ballistics, everything. I wish there were more G41-related CURRENT videos out there.
@harryspeck8098
@harryspeck8098 4 ай бұрын
Pilgrim is definitely interesting. Underwood is my current carry.
@robertstack3678
@robertstack3678 4 ай бұрын
Hey length talk about the angle of the bullet on hollow points because it's well known that glock has had recalls for feeding issues. Sig ammo was one of the worst not sliding up the breech ramp, the bullet was digging in and jamming. The critical defense ammo has a better angle and works.
@CarrieWard-ny1zl
@CarrieWard-ny1zl 4 ай бұрын
I was thinking about that with my 1911, it doesn’t like hollow points because of the feed ramp. But I found some new ammo that is still the shape of FMJ penetrates like FMJ but then it spins over end doing more damage than any hollow point I’ve seen… that’s my go to for the my Kimber custom shop ultra cdp , they make it 9 mm so you shouldn’t have any problem with feeding… it’s called TUI, tumble upon impact…. So if you’re having feeding issues, I’d give it a try..
@clb1024
@clb1024 4 ай бұрын
I would like to see you do a gel test with the G43x you carry and a G19, just to see if the barrel lenght has a huge impact on that 50gr round.
@DonaldTv_253
@DonaldTv_253 16 күн бұрын
Liberty Defense has the ammo just like the pilgrim ammo +p fps 2000 60 Grain I carry in a glock 22 40. and in 43x 9mm but my go to is the Hornady critical Duty’s 🔥
@inthedistance5057
@inthedistance5057 4 ай бұрын
It’s expensive, but I have to purchase cases of my carry ammo to practice with on the range. One of my biggest worries is a malfunction caused by my carry ammo, that occurred because I didn’t run enough of it through my EDC to ensure it was 100 % reliable and compatible with said EDC.
@zenderfall
@zenderfall 4 ай бұрын
Lenny, Einstein’s theory of relativity isn’t quite the right formula. I’m positive the one you meant to say was Kinetic Energy = 1/2 x Mass x Velocity squared. Or, 1/2mv^2.
@allenbolen9705
@allenbolen9705 4 ай бұрын
I have some 68 gr extreme defenders loaded by underwood. You get the speed without sacrificing penetration!
@kenshin034
@kenshin034 4 ай бұрын
Always 115g Winnie’s and 124g HST’s,specifically 115g for SubC/micros, keep HPs in oem standard caps and Critical D/FPFMJ😴/underwoods/FMJ in marked extds 💨🚘🐗🐻,really don’t need the heavy weights 147g/180g for 9/40 unless it’s a full size/PCC the middle weights 9mm:115/124/135g and .40:155/165g give best overall performance especially on barriers
@jdmznet
@jdmznet 4 ай бұрын
The water jugs and gel blocks, I have heard but do not know, are good things for comparing penetration depth of different bullets, but are bad for measuring real amounts of penetration. Because they are consistent in density (and so good for comparison), they are radically different from real targets (with clothes, bones, muscle, etc.).
@erice4611
@erice4611 4 ай бұрын
HST 124gr, Gold Dot 124+P are the best rounds for edc and duty.
@dalecharles811
@dalecharles811 4 ай бұрын
Always enjoy your videos, add a couple layers of denim in front of the block and see if it opens to early
@828enigma6
@828enigma6 4 ай бұрын
124 HST +P for me, since Winchester 125 gr Ranger T bonded +P isn't easily available. The Federal 9BPLE +P+is a little much for a subcompact but would likely be ok in a medium to full size weapon.
@ALLaboutGAMINGxCHAOSxHOLLOWx
@ALLaboutGAMINGxCHAOSxHOLLOWx 4 ай бұрын
Lenny buddy I love this channel a lot but you need to look at the "TODAYS" 9mm velocity! The speed of the common 9mm has increased since the 80s and 90s. They use to match or come close to the .45 but its faster then the common .45 now. The 9mm usually has the speed and the .45 has the punch "weight". The typical .45 is subsonic but the 9mm isnt...
@keithsafford3056
@keithsafford3056 4 ай бұрын
Hornady Critical Duty or Critical Defense. G26 Gen 4: Critical Defense, G17 Gen 3 and PSA Dagger: Critical Duty
@vilenationgaming
@vilenationgaming 4 ай бұрын
in my G19 I carry Winchester Defender. Those are a crazy round for 9mm For my G20 half stack of Underwood Extreme Defender(top half) and other half is Underwood 155 grain TAC-XP hollow points
@joshmajor8662
@joshmajor8662 4 ай бұрын
NOVX is still the all-around winner in my book!!! Lol check it out, it's not cheap but it's a barrier blind polymer that stops once introduced to hydro shock, that's "dumbed down" but you get the point Haha
@JOROM90
@JOROM90 4 ай бұрын
How accurate is the Pilgrim ammo? That's an important piece as well.
@andrewfossatti4937
@andrewfossatti4937 4 ай бұрын
124gr +p seems to be the Goldilocks configuration for me 😂
@papatorr3669
@papatorr3669 3 ай бұрын
The best EDC ammo is .380 ACP in the Ruger LCP in my front pocket! Better than any of my 9mm pistols that may not be on my person. 😅
@darienpatterson3658
@darienpatterson3658 4 ай бұрын
i use radically invasive projectile rounds (R.I.P.) for self defense. they’re $40 but they work!
@proctph
@proctph 4 ай бұрын
Liberty Ammunition also carries a similar round. Civil Defense. 9mm +P 50 gr. at 2040 FPS. I’m a big fan of this ammo. I actually don’t mind carrying an extra 19 rd mag or two with my 19X! 😂
@tacd962
@tacd962 4 ай бұрын
9mm - 124 grain 40- 165 Gold Dot LE, 180 Grain HST
@anythingbenz4005
@anythingbenz4005 4 ай бұрын
Nice I already happen to have it in my glock just by chance and to see it be top pick is awesome
@MattGoodfellow
@MattGoodfellow 4 ай бұрын
Interesting video. The Hornady critical defense is designed for micro and short barrels like a p365, Glock 43, Glock 26, etc. I did want to point out the critical duty is something more that officers use, because it does over-penetrate a little bit. Better for a little bit bigger home defense gun Maybe.
@MrZachzippo
@MrZachzippo 4 ай бұрын
I understand that the reason that some of the manufacturers place a synthetic cap on their hollow point bullets is to prevent premature expansion, I could be wrong. I would have liked to see the effect of the fluted bullets where the bullet is not jacked and made of a solid piece of metal, usually an alloy of copper or brass.
@MidwestPicker
@MidwestPicker 17 күн бұрын
The pilgrim ammo looks promising but I wonder how well it will cycle?
@randy74989
@randy74989 4 ай бұрын
I would like to see a match between the Fort Smith 9MM SUB-MUNITION® TUI® - 125GR AMMO and the Speer Gold Dot Carry Gun 9mm Luger 135 Grain ammo. That would be a great test. I have both for my Glock 43X EDC as well as the Hornady Critical Duty and Critical Defense.
@frasiercrane5415
@frasiercrane5415 4 ай бұрын
I always use Kinetic Energie =1/2 m v^2.
@dougt5357
@dougt5357 4 ай бұрын
Fiocchi XTP 124 grain uses Hornady bullets at a significant cost reduction. Used in my M&P Shield Plus with a 15 round magazine. Oh, and did anybody else notice that the firearm used with the Pilgrim 50 gr was different than all the other brands fired?
@chuckmcnair7938
@chuckmcnair7938 4 ай бұрын
Underwood extreme defender 👍🏻
@davidwiechecki9205
@davidwiechecki9205 4 ай бұрын
Underwood 68 grain Extreme Defense. Penetrates the same through gel no matter the barriers used in the FBI tests. Denim, wallboard, sheet metal and windshield glass. Tim at the Military Arms Channel tested it and switched to it years ago. That Pilgrim ammo needs to be more thoroughly tested. I bet it wouldn't do so well against some of the barriers. And even in bare gel it looks like it only penetrated 8-10 inches. The FBI requirement is 12-18.
@joshuamandelbaum8668
@joshuamandelbaum8668 4 ай бұрын
E=MC2, I love the fact that these rounds all travel at light speed. Don’t have to worry about the effects of bullet drop.
@francostacy7675
@francostacy7675 17 күн бұрын
Hi, I think his point was that speed and the weight and the physical size do matter….
@BobbySMiles
@BobbySMiles 4 ай бұрын
Layer of denim and use of ballistic gel always gives you real world results .
@gregwright392
@gregwright392 4 ай бұрын
All that ammo just needs the Paul Harrell testing!
@jeffbailey7765
@jeffbailey7765 4 ай бұрын
I like the hydra-shock from federal
@matthewwise3360
@matthewwise3360 4 ай бұрын
I'm surprised to hear Lenny come to that conclusion. That pilgrim ammo is dumping most of its energy in an incredibly short distance, a distance in which other studies would say is much too short to be reliably incapacitate. There's a reason why LE agencies do not use any of the many gimmicky hyper-velocity ammo types, they don't prove to be as effective. This is such a surface-level understanding of pistol ammo and terminal ballistics, it's actually very surprising to see it demonstrated here on this channel. Lenny, I'd refer you to one of several podcasts that Hornady has done on this subject, it would expand your knowledge greatly to hear from guys who do legitimate scientific testing.
@lenzielenski3276
@lenzielenski3276 4 ай бұрын
Why are you surprised? He SELLS that ammo, at a substantial profit. Its a small local company so its not like you can get it anywhere else (should you even want to). First and foremost, he's in business and making videos to sell his products and services. He couldn't care less what's best for you. He cares about what's best FOR HIM.
@sluttybutt
@sluttybutt 4 ай бұрын
​@@lenzielenski3276 You actually can get it elsewhere. It is very clearly Liberty Civil Defense ammo in different packaging. The appearance and performance are identical.
@ke3552
@ke3552 3 ай бұрын
How do you discuss SD handgun ammo without mentioning Speer GDHP?
@michaelm.7382
@michaelm.7382 4 ай бұрын
124 GRAIN HORNADY JHP or 124 GRAIN FEDERAL HST JHP for EDC 147 GRAIN FEDERAL SYNTHETIC SOLID CORE or UNDERWOOD 147 GRAIN MONOLITHIC for the woods
@mickyashey9818
@mickyashey9818 4 ай бұрын
First off 👍🏼 👍🏼 video! I thought though HORNADY adds that plastic tip to help with Expansion yes, but wasn’t it ALSO to keep from being affected when it’s passing through outer layers or clothing of target, as well as to prevent any feed issues caused by JHP?! ALSO I’m pretty sure that 135gr. in 9mm just a .357mag/.38spl 135gr bullet in a 9mm case? Like Sig V-crown .355 124gr & 125gr!?
@cwarren4396
@cwarren4396 4 ай бұрын
In a locale where there is minimal clothing, ie resistance, the 50 grain might be very acceptable. However in areas where a med-heavy jacket/coat is necessary, the penetration will be insufficient to yield an attackers' incapacitation.
@joshuasutton4043
@joshuasutton4043 4 ай бұрын
Carry hollow points in almost all my guns not too good of ammo in the 25 acps but everything else it’s good .
@64samsky
@64samsky 4 ай бұрын
Hornady Critical Duty or Federal HST is all I carry!
@MichaelGregg-yr8qb
@MichaelGregg-yr8qb 4 ай бұрын
Aside from lack of momentum and penetration, the weight savings for the Pilgrim round is insignificant. Assuming carrying it in a G19 with 16 + 1 rounds, it saves 2.7 ounces over a 124 grain bullet. Not the best of reasons for choosing a self defense round. Make that up by carrying less change or something.
@francostacy7675
@francostacy7675 17 күн бұрын
I think you make a good point however it is a difference and I’ve heard many gun KZbinrs declare one gun is better simply because it’s lighter or heavier by 2 ounces
@HomoMoto
@HomoMoto 4 ай бұрын
Sorry but that Pilgrim ammo didn't go anywhere near the minimum standard for the FBI test. From personal experience, the HST was probably the best ammo out of the ones you "tested" and the second would probably be the golden saber. There's two other rounds that you should have tested and that would be the Gold Dot and the Xtreme defender or Xtreme penetrator from Lehigh defense. Most law enforcement agencies nowadays are using either Federal HST or Gold Dot... There's a reason for that... Also, most defense attorneys will advise you to contact your local law enforcement agency and carry the exact same ammo they carry so prosecutors and attorneys don't try to "nail you to the cross"
@francostacy7675
@francostacy7675 18 күн бұрын
I worry about over penetration and getting collateral damage and go to prison for protecting myself …. Going to prison doesn’t sound much better than dying to me
@francostacy7675
@francostacy7675 17 күн бұрын
Historically, law enforcement has made a lot of mistakes in selecting their calibers, and which type of weapon to use. I don’t necessarily consider them to be a Testing authority as well.
@francostacy7675
@francostacy7675 18 күн бұрын
I usually don’t comment on the host because it always sounds like butt kissing and seeking thumbs up….However Lenny seems like a skilled humble man of knowledge and skill. I could hang out with this guy and learn. No macho crap like other KZbinrs . However I’m not a Glock guy
@erikknight5664
@erikknight5664 8 күн бұрын
💯
@jona5517
@jona5517 4 ай бұрын
I put extreme defenders in all of my Glocks no matter what caliber.
@genevabrown450
@genevabrown450 4 ай бұрын
I like to carry the same bullet weight that I train with,Im sticking with Hornaday critical defense 115 grain,it opens like a lawn chair and recoil is at a minimum...
@Santaheckler
@Santaheckler 4 ай бұрын
Why was Gold Dot not included? It’s a great choice. That Pilgrim stuff is not going in my EDC. Manufacturers claimed velocity can’t be trusted. They’ll shoot the bullet out of an 8” barrel or something nobody carries 🤣
@theunknownatheist3815
@theunknownatheist3815 4 ай бұрын
I’ve heard of “Subsonic” ammo- but I think Lenny just introduced us to “Sub Lightspeed” ammo with his “E=MC^2” ammo. 😂 🔥🔫😜
@heavy6355
@heavy6355 4 ай бұрын
I carry the underwood 90g +p extreme defender all the vids I’ve watched on it it out preforms every hp it’s put up against
@richardefriend
@richardefriend 4 ай бұрын
Totally overlooked Underwood's Xtreme Defender barrier blind solid copper fluted ammo, which is IMHO essential for short and shorter barreled pistols, since (according to the FBI's own analysis) JHPs fail to fully expand in at least 30% TO 40% of the time. That's pretty disappointing.
@fraliexb
@fraliexb 4 ай бұрын
Lenny... E=mc² is not the equation you want.... You want the Kinetic Energy equation K=½m•V²
@francostacy7675
@francostacy7675 17 күн бұрын
I think his point was that the speed, the weight, and the physical size of the bullet does matter …
@orangecrush5512
@orangecrush5512 4 ай бұрын
I actually kind of like what the light weight frangible rounds do. It I had kids at home, in different rooms of my house, I might seriously consider them for my home defense pistol. At this point in our lives, it's just me and my wife in our home, so we're loaded with HSTs. I wouldn't want to be hit by any of these rounds, though.
@kennedykrewoutdoors5392
@kennedykrewoutdoors5392 4 ай бұрын
It’s the functionality of the bullet. Remington in deer hunting ammunition is brutal.
@MikeFreeman-y4c
@MikeFreeman-y4c 4 ай бұрын
Ummmm...C is the variable for the speed of light...what you're looking for is the formula for force, f=MA...force=mass*acceleration
@3.eyes.open.
@3.eyes.open. 4 ай бұрын
Liberty civil defense was the first to market the monolithic copper nickel plated hollow points going 2000+ feet per second not quite sure where this "pilgrim" stuff comes from but they look to use the exact same projectiles
@Cruiser777
@Cruiser777 4 ай бұрын
I carry. Liberty 50 grain + p 2200 ft.and speer gold dot 124 grain😅
@richardbriscoe8563
@richardbriscoe8563 4 ай бұрын
I drew an opposite conclusion from your test. The FBI test has a clothing barrier in front of their gell. We don’t know how the Pilgrim round would perform under those conditions, but I’ll speculate, based on the performance of other similar rounds, that it would not do well. Secondly, fragmenting rounds seldom penetrate deeply enough to reach vital organs on a regular basis. Based on your test, I wouldn’t carry the Pilgrim except, perhaps in very warm weather where clothing is not generally as mich a factor. Even then I’d be concerned about the potential for inadequate penetration. I think there are better choices.
@danelhernandez4875
@danelhernandez4875 4 ай бұрын
I sawp between critical defense 135g and gold dot 124plus It would be hard if i only had to choose one but ill probably go with critical defense but cant go wrong with either
@iyn1911
@iyn1911 4 ай бұрын
Al way fun to watch bulletin testing.
@kawikadee9670
@kawikadee9670 4 ай бұрын
Federal 147 gr hst or spear gold dot 147 hp gr for selfdefense.
@gillbrown8520
@gillbrown8520 4 ай бұрын
G9 Defense for me every time
@Neffie42
@Neffie42 4 ай бұрын
The pilgrim ammo may be my new edc for the 43x in the summer
@keitha.9788
@keitha.9788 4 ай бұрын
4:18 From a engineering / scientific perspective, your formula should be E = .5 x M x V^2 (V squared), not C^2 (C squared). In the scientific words, C is most often used as the constant for the speed of light in free space. V is typically used for Velocity.....
@drgrey7862
@drgrey7862 4 ай бұрын
The equation for Kinetic energy is KE = 1/2mv(Squared) where "KE" is kinetic energy;" m" is mass and "v" is velocity squared.
@francostacy7675
@francostacy7675 17 күн бұрын
He wasn’t trying to be Bill Nye, he was just pointing out that the mass of the bullet and the speed of the bullet does matter. If we’re going to get technical about it, then the length of his barrel matters the twist of his barrel matters, and we need to know the density of the gel that he used …. and then the distance between the muzzle and the gel would also have to be factored in and is in any testing. You must also record your environment so we need to know the temperature of the gel and the temperature and the humidity of the environment.
@drgrey7862
@drgrey7862 16 күн бұрын
@@francostacy7675 you missed point- I am pointing out he used wrong equation. In your world you think pointing that out is the problem? He used the equation in a video that any physicist would recognize as inaccurate but according to you- don't point it out ?
@Noypi
@Noypi 4 ай бұрын
ive always carry pmc 115gr for years even tested it and its just as effective as 124 or more
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